She Dropped A Nuclear Bomb On My Boner

Not long ago I wrote about how European women older than 25 do or say strange things which demolish my sexual attraction:

I’ve had older Polish women say amazingly retarded things to me that just kill my sex drive for them. They also have emotional displays that fall on the far extremes (emotionally cold like an iceberg or completely unstable like a child). It can get to the point where you hope that they don’t speak because what they do say will make you less eager to have sex with them.

Not learning my lesson, I got into an interaction with a 27-year-old Polish girl. At the time, I felt this decision was justified for four reasons:

  • She was putting out signs that she wanted quick sex
  • Her body was near perfect though her face was average at best
  • She was at the bar without any cockblocking friends
  • She just broke up with her boyfriend and was looking for a sexual rebound

Even better, she didn’t require clown game, so I let the silences fly while she worked to re-initiate conversation. This seemed to me a good prospect for a sexual adventure, in spite of her advanced age.

After 90 minutes of conversation at the bar, I relocated her to another venue down the street. She was now away from her friends and there was intimate touching, giving rise to a firm boner that hadn’t seen orgasm in four days. I set up the invite to my apartment for later and she didn’t object. The bang was in the bag.

Before I tell you what she said to destroy my boner, I must state that I never ask for a girl’s sexual history. Unless she’s a virgin, there is no answer she will give that increases my attraction for her, but this girl, for reasons unknown, started offering that history up to me unprompted, first by mentioning her long-time Italian boyfriend. My boner wasn’t disrupted by that, but then she said the following:

“I like trying new things. I fucked a lesbian before, and I also fucked a gay guy.”

Back in university I took a course on mammalian physiology, and there I learned a host of biological processes that can instantaneously change functions like heart rate and muscle response. To put your body in fight-or-flight response, for example, takes a cascade of incredibly complex enzymes and molecules that work through long pathways to achieve a physical response in less than a second. I mention this because blood seemed to shut off from my boner within that time. All attraction I had for this girl was vaporized into ash, without a single conscious thought on my part.

I’m more aware than I’d like to be about the gay lifestyle, the hyper promiscuity of which would make accomplished heterosexual players look like minor league rejects, so I couldn’t help imagine a man who regularly gets ass-fucked or who performs the assfucking having sex with a girl that I was about to have sex with. It was an unacceptable visual.

“Don’t worry, we used protection,” she said, noticing the disturbance in my face. But her words didn’t matter. There was no way I could have sex with a girl who sought empowerment by fucking a fag and then bragging about it to a guy she just met not even three hours before, a guy who in spite of his own risky sexual behavior, would not consciously enter an obvious high-risk situation when condom use and effectiveness is not 100%, especially with diseases like HPV, molluscum, and lice.

“I wish you didn’t tell me that,” I said, realizing that it was all over. I couldn’t even look her in the face.

“Oh come on, you’re American—you’re supposed to be open-minded!” She appeared stunned that relaying her degenerate sexual experience could have ruined the night.

“I hate America,” I replied. Then I excused myself in a manner much more polite than girls before her who have lost attraction for me.

I wanted to understand why. Why do women, who according to Cosmopolitan magazine are supposedly better communicators than men, so skilled at anti-seductive and anti-boner behavior as they get older?

The behavior of a woman will be a reflection of her beliefs and her most recent influences. When I date a 21-year-old, her strongest influence in life will be her parents and her friends. Her parents teach her moral values (hopefully) and her friends teach her basic socialization, but after she graduates from college and starts dating professionally, the distance to her family increases while her social circle decreases in size. What predominately shapes her mind at this point becomes her purely sexual interactions with horny men.

Since most men are beta males and are desperate for sex, she receives positive attention from them even if she launches a barrage of anti-boner missiles. As long as she remains physically attractive, it doesn’t matter what she tells a man because he will still reward her with attention and try to get her in bed. This must be the main reason why older women exhibit anti-boner qualities: they were never punished or reprimanded for doing so. They actually believe that men like them for their personalities, of saying they got fucked by a homosexual, and so we have cumulative degradation as a woman ages because men never told her that she’s actually an idiot, that her jokes aren’t funny, and that her shit is all retarded. I was the victim of a woman whose socialization was worse than in her youth because 100 horny men wanted to fuck her at any cost.

Men do not have the social immunity that women have. If we say one bad joke, we’re called out on it, and therefore have to improve our game routine for the next girl. We must increasingly rely on factors beside our appearance to attract women as we get older, such as personality, style, charm, money, status, and wit, all of which are judged in real time by women who have no problem instantly walking away from a man who says or does things that turn them off. But men are more likely to stay when a girl does something stupid because their desperation is far higher, and so you have older women who are able to actually refine, practice, and perfect their anti-boner statements and routines, never learning that it decreases attraction.

Imagine if I was notch hunting when I met this girl, or if she possessed a flag I wanted, or if I was desperate. I would have gone through with the bang and then felt poorly about myself afterwards, that I sold out for a brief moment of ego gratification or bodily weakness to go against my principles and fuck a girl who willingly put her health in danger for empowerment and experimentation. Maybe I’ve finally beginning to liberate myself from the clutches of pussy. Maybe I don’t need it like I did in the past because I know mediocre pussy will not add to my life like before when I had little sexual experience.

If you are content with your past sexual victories, you are sure to be disappointed if you lower yourself tomorrow by pursuing an inferior woman for only short sexual gain. I don’t care much about all the time I may waste with women, but I do fear losing something much larger that prevents me from properly bonding with them in the future. And so I wonder if now I must focus on meeting a decent girl who has the ability to respect both me and my boner, for more than just a night.

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“And so I wonder if now I must focus on meeting a decent girl who has the ability to respect both me and my boner, for more than just a night.”

Ain’t gonna happen. Aren’t you reading your own articles you write about the decimation of today’s women?

And I agree that any man is better off to being alone than spending time with inferior pussy. This especially includes aged females who have been with fags.

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I know not all men jive with the idea of God, whom exists (but we are all entitled to free will on this choice), but such a belief is what kept traditional societies together.

Even if you want to go down the atheist route, it is clear to see that a society that abandons male headship of an intact family and promotes mass abortion, alongside degenerate behaviours ( and that was the older generations), is not going to last very long. I don’t honestly believe that either US/UK have more than 5 good years left followed by 30-40 bad ones. For the doomsday deniers, at least the UK is fucked, because when the population jumps from 52 million in late 1990s to 85 million (based on agribusiness and supermarkets) today, and arguably by design, such a large number of people on such a small country means we are well and truly fucked by the bankers and their cult/cabal.

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If it makes you feel better, by all means believe in fairies, gods, and demons.

Christians haven’t been murdering much since the 1600s when they softened up to retain market share (allow English Bibles) but the latest over-confident assholes –Muslim extremists– have shown that placing your trust in magical thinking in a shared grandiose delusion is very dangerous and must always be labelled as such from a public safety viewpoint.

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I am irreligious myself, yet stridently in favour of religion.

A society without religion, without a fear of SOMETHING, will always fall into degeneracy. The most degenerate people I have ever met all had one thing in common: irreligiousness. The West is a testament to this.

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Actually, from a public safety standpoint, it is government organisations like the NSA and others that implement and/or fail in public safety, that gets people killed.

God does exist. Fairies don’t. Aethism can also be said to be a shared grandiose delusion – projection and looking in the mirror seems to be the case oftentimes.

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“God exists. Fairies don’t. ”
Good thing I got that clarified. I always thought the idea of a fairy was more playful and fun, but that pompous pronouncement helps me see reality for what it is.

Evil Exists. If God exists, he allows evil, therefore God is evil.
Or, God is not all-powerful. Then he is not God.

Let’s get started on the gymnastic bullshit you’ve got to do to tap dance around that.

This sounds so deadpan funny, I’m sure you’re a nice guy and don’t kill babies or steal hubcaps.

Now what happens if God tells you lols you you have to to work for the NSA and kill all the XYZ people. It’s your obligation to do it right?

That’s all I’m saying your private fantasies are your private fantasies and have no place in the public discussion of reality.

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You are applying non-judgement game on Western R-selected girls. What do you expect?

Girls as young as 18 will share these things with you if you have the right frame. You seem to have adopted the correct frame ever since the realization that Poland was Western in mentality. “You are American, you are suppose to be open-minded” means, translated from woman-speak: “You have a lover-frame and I am not interested in a relationship with you, it is obvious that this is just sexual and you are non-judgemental, I feel like I don’t have to hide my disgusting past.”

R-girls don’t actually like having to hide their past (or present, more like). They will only hide it if they see some kind of K-selected future, sometimes even if there is a mere HINT of connection. It is actually one of my rules to avoid connection with R-girls, because they close down sexually under it (either avoiding sex altogether, or sexual self-censoring). They LOVE non-judgement, because they can be themselves. They can present themselves as who they are, for good or for bad. And if you are non-judgemental, girls will show you who they actually are. You should be so even with girls you are interested in on a human level, you want to know who you are dealing with, and not lied to. It is very subtle, and things like facial reactions to her statements must be controlled, subcommunication is key, as is encouragement. Eg., if says she fucked a gay guy, say “nice”, then ask her if she did something even “crazier” (“crazy” is the star R-selected word), with a tone almost as if you like it. You keep this solid frame from the start, and you will get the truth from every girl.

I have personally spent time in Poland, and what you say doesn’t only apply to older girls. Very young college girls will share, very explicitly so, all of their exploits if you have the right frame. All of the disgusting sex acts happen during the college years, and even girls in their teenage years will have plenty of stories to tell.

This is the R-selected side of the globe, and it is culture that determines behaviour. A woman will always behave predictably in accordance to the cultural rules she grew up with, which is why distinctions can only be made under geographical criteria and none else.

I emphasize heavily the distinction between “human” and “sexual” value. One of the hardest red pills for me to swallow was that entire nations of women were useless as human partners. Once you realize what the average R-girl has done, and what her mentality is, it is obvious that even a second bang, any kind of continuity, is self-destructive. After years in the game, you begin to forget the reasons sluts are undateable and toxic, and the male instinct to “save them” pops in. Thoughts like “yeah, she is a slut, but she’s alright, maybe I could spend a few months with her” pop up, and then you are quickly reminded why you avoided these women as partners all those years. I advocate a kind of”healthy hatred”. See them as sluts, see them as useless partners, but don’t actually feel enraged towards the situation. Approach them, fuck them, have some beers with them, take the piss, have fun for the night… But no connection, no expectation of continuity, and a clear isolation of sexual value from human value. When you have internalized this, you get girls talking about getting bukkaked by an ONS’s roommates, with emotional shift, because it was very clear in your mind from the start that this girl is similar to prostitute, strictly sexual. No investment, no connection. That is the N.1 rule of R-selected game.

If you want connection, you must go to places where women are high-quality, therefore by definition DIFFICULT. In places like Russia you may have to put in several months of hard labour just for one quality girl, but what you are getting is a value FAR greater than anything you can get in R-selection. The increase in quality comes with an increase in price (more work, time, patience and less quantity), as with everything good in life.

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sadly, most western girls are r-rated. The ones that aren’t have major issues and date men for LTRs who are weak in the mind and in the heart. This is my major gripe with western society – the promiscuous women have destroyed it and there are no men I respect any more. Like yes, but respect? Definitely not, its just too rare. But less westernised societies don’t elicit the same response – this is one of the many reasons how I know we are fucked.

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Jared, may I ask you what LTRs means, without getting blasted. I was a virgin when I married as I could never give my heart or my body to any man but my beloved and the father of my children.

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Man, I couldn’t have said better myself. Awesome comment.

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Wonderful synopsis. Seems to be spot on. Irrespective of R/K selection theory, if a bitch tells me she’s fucked gay guy(s).. whether I’ve made her feel so comfortable to do so or not, it’s game over.

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Since homosexuality is such a disease vector. It is logical that the Libido of Roosh turned off instantly when he heard that she had coitus with a homosexual male.

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I guarantee you there are heteros as filthy and disease-ridden as homosexuals. Its about power-tripping and the drunken irresponsibility of arrogant youth more than orientation.

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From needles and anal sex no doubt. Putting one’s stick in a human petri dish that the anus constitutes a part of belies a misunderstanding of the function of the parts of the body. One is for shitting and one is for sex. One is designed for sex the other is designed for crapping.

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Sure, and a lot of men like to turn their power trips into sex, thus the status of anal sex in prison. My point is this discussion on this board crosses the line of taste and bias. I don’t think this guy is credible anyway. THere are dudes that are too wimpy to get the job done, and there are dudes who are so jacked up on their own egos, they make the world suck. There’s a happy medium out there, and its not being found here.

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Not really by itself its more like a male libido needed an outlet and in prison more feminine looking men gave such power tripping men (who also had hi T btw there is a study linking hi T to dominance seeking behaviour). Caused situational homosexuality to develop.

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No thats simply not true

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Really true that polish women are becoming trash. I don’t think the same thing could come out of a Russian or a Ukrainian girl’s mouth, no matter how old she is.

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There’s trash in every nation. The question is how common this behavior is.

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America must be a pretty big landfill then.

Open question to Roosh and all-
As much as red pill guys esteem FSU girls- how do we really know they don’t have all kinds of dudes pumping them just like American chicks? We don’t and that’s scary- I know America is toxic, evil, and controlled by the elitists but how do we know if the Slavic snow angels aren’t getting jack hammered on Boriss mattress all to often yet claiming to be old schoo to us?

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True, you never can be absolutely certain, but you will never suspect such is the case 15 minutes into the interaction like with an American girl. You may never come to suspect it at all. They are much more skilled at hiding/whitewashing their history, assuming their history is relatively clean.

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Around the world it’s white girls getting all the divorces. Sure they look a good but are a lot more trouble.

Why don’t you go back to Colombia?
Was it too impoverished to be sustainable for the long haul?

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“…and I also fucked a gay guy.”

This chick had the anti-Midas touch. What a complete and utter garbage bag.

What’s funny/sad is there are ‘x’ number of Betas that would look past that glaring red flag, bang and wife up this potential mobile Petri dish.

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Fucked a porn gay actor would have been better, because they have guaranted protection as they perfom sexual acts with verified free disease people in their industry.

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Yet whenever a female performer gets HIV, it’s always from a guy who took it up the ass.

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Yeah, I wouldn’t touch that either. I read a stat a couple years back that the HIV+ rate in gay porn was at least 40%.

There are bridges that you don’t cross; this whorebag Roosh came across crossed the Rubicon.

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Here in Ireland, quite a few of my acquaintances (I won’t call them friends), who are allegedly straight, have started hanging out in the gay and tranny bars and taking part in gay parades. Ireland has become so infested with feminism and faggotry it makes me sick.
OK, I could live with it if I wasn’t called sexist every time I look at a pretty girl in a swimsuit. But it’s got to a point where if a fat girl or a gay guy steps out in a skimpy dress it’s art or something. Yet if a girl with a Barbie doll figure did the same thing, she’d be labeled sexist and driven out of town.
In a few months there will be an election on “Marriage Equality” ie legalizing gay marriage. It’s a guaranteed win for the sodomites. I will be voting no even though I know I’m going to lose. I simply can’t take it anymore.

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http://socialdublin.blogspot.ie/

A compendium of Irish girls. This is the best we have to offer I’m afraid.

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There’s definitely some attractive/pretty ones there. Certainly bangable.

My ex-fiancé was half Irish/half Italian; gorgeous, but she had the temper of a ravenous pit bull on crack…hence she’s my “ex-fiancé”.

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Congrats on not getting married.

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Thanks, man.

Yeah, better to have gotten off the Titanic before it set out to sea than after it hit the iceberg.

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The name of that website gives away everything. Being “social” in the Anglosphere is dressing up rich and kissing the a$$es of those “higher” in the chain, as if enough time hadn’t been dedicated to that in the five days of the working week.

Sick is the best word to describe it.

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Amen!

Whatever happened to “We just want to be left alone!”?

Buggery has gone from a crime to a mental disease to an equality movement to a civil right.

Why is this?

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Saul Alinskyism and the frankfurt school made leftism more virilent.

Leftism in the form of heretical christian groups and other utopian ideologies were unsuccessful before those factors came into place and failed time and time again.

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It’s depressing to watch the same thing happen in the states. Sometimes it feels like I’m the only person my age to hate this societal poison.The only thing I can say is to stand your ground courageously. Nothing this ugly and unnatural can last forever.

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Is it any wonder that she’s not married yet?

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Or she’s divorced and hopping on carousels of any and every type, her health (physical & mental) be damned.

The more I look at it, I’d bet a few beers this chick was dumped and divorced and her behavior now is that of a semi-suicidal person. Fucking a fag, even with a body condom on, is just so risky.

This chick is breaking down. Roosh did well to reject and eject.

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That’s what I observed too recently in Poland – many girls above 26+ seem to have major issues. Friends of mine noticed that too wasting sometimes massive amounts of time to chase women who are already too broken by the carousel riding. They feel that they were empowered, but it effectively left them socially awkward, promiscuous and bitter.

That’s why I am focusing now on smaller cities and younger girls – the 18-24 year olds usually have still their youthful optimism and feminine charm left.

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This sounds good but how can older men convince silly carefree young girls who make most of their decisions based on social circle opinions to take the aging cock for a long term deal (marriage kids etc)?

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In Western countries you should not, but even if you wanted to, it is not possible.

Remember the old maxim: “The carousel stops for no man.”

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Marrying a 20 year old is not the goal. If you are attractive, young looking enough and have additional values then it may be possible, but that is not what I was talking about.
There is no “convincing” a girl to marry young – either she wants it or not. If her craving for marriage and family is strong at age 20, then the social circle does not have much of an influence on her anyway. You can only “convince”/seduce a girl to fuck you, but cannot change her entire mental makeup.

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What about men ever reproducing?
I mean we don’t want to spend our life’s with a crazy aging bag who can ruin us and would prefer younger girls.
Or is it be a player for life and not reproduce?
If you had kids wouldn’t it be better if they had both parents and both parents loved and cared for them. Otherwise the odds of them being messed up are a lot higher.

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Personally, I have no interest in ever marrying them. Better to go to sluts or hookers and get some fast action and move on. I’ve seen too many older guys get stung that way.
Face it, if she’s 20 and you’re 50, she’s not dreaming about your humungous cock.

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Exhibit A: age 50. Exhibit B: pro-PUA Bullett. Of course let’s not kid ourselves – it would be getting more difficult, but if women at 35 are considering themselves as prime piece, then we can do so too at 55.
The key is to stay in excellent shape, have some achievements and be willing to accept slightly less stimulating lays. And if you have to add some sugar to that and be partly sugar-daddy, who cares? It still beats being divorce raped and fat at 45.

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Just for the record, “Neo” is mostly gay.

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Hookers? Gross, dude.

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Mostly just gay guys are dreaming of humungous cock.
So no loss there

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In Eastern Europe, if a girl doesn’t pop out a kid by 24 she’s considered past her due date. As a result, many girls there get pregnant before they’ve gone to college or got any kind of husband. Usually, the father is the biggest alcoholic loser in the village.
I know plenty of EE girls who did this. Get pregnant first, spend the rest of your life chasing a possible husband to support the kids. Usually popping out more kids in the process.

There’s loads of EE hotties here in Ireland. Really cute and marriageable but a kid or three always come in the bargain.

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What you describe are the strippers, the sluts and some unusual ones. The majority know and do better.

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You are getting close to making a very important realization about your life that will change your life for the better.

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Yes, that posterity demands “Bang: Japan” and “Bang: SEA”. Halleluiah.

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Women (and men to be fair) do what they do because its in their own interests and there is no consequences for doing so.

Here by sharing her history she feels free to be herself which makes her happier and more comfortable. Its an emotional win for her. She’s never been punished for it, as she’s been surrounded by thirsty men her entire life. For every (rare) Roosh knocking her back because of her display, she will have 10 men that will quickly ‘forget’ what they heard to do the deed. Eventually as she ages, her unattractive personality will become more reinforced at the same time she loses the looks which kept the thirsty men coming to her door.

Men have their charisma improve if they practice game, because like Roosh says, a mistep is often cruelly punished.

The world is littered with aged ex-hotties who will never be fit to be a long term partner of men with options. They never had to develop an attractive persona when younger, so they end up collecting cats or being pumped and dumped as they head towards the wall and beyond.

Its not all hopeless though. There are the rare few ‘Ugly Duckling’ girls that came into their looks later in life, but in the meantime had to develop a personality and built good social habits with men when they were younger. Like men, they would have been rejected for even the hint of bitchiness or unattractive displays and so developed great social decorum.

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Ridiculous. I can tell this was written by a beta male just because of the language used.

Some of the most kind-hearted women I have known were attractive beyond the imagination of most Western men. They were the ones lucky enough to have grown up isolated from Western ideals. What destroys a girl is the carousel, Western feminism and cultural ideals of equating women to men. In the West, EVERY girl will be shit, attractive, ugly, and everything in between. Their decadent lifestyle, imposed by culture, is what has destroyed them.

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I didn’t say ALL beautiful women are bitches, I said the world is littered with them. Your reading absolutism into my words because that’s what you practice yourself:

I’ve found quality women even in the west and I could claim that you’re bullshitting because of your own absolutist language.

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“…and so we have cumulative degradation as a woman ages because men never
told her that she’s actually an idiot, that her jokes aren’t funny, and
that her shit is all retarded.”

^THIS. Preach it, brother! smile

So many women go for so many years acting all retarded before someone puts them in their place. And many of them get married to poor beta schmucks who never dare to put them in their place, so they go their entire lives acting like complete cunts.

Injustice, that’s what it iiiis! wink

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Wow Roosh, good for you. Finally realizing that you may turn your cynical view of women permanent and loose any respect for them if you continue to focus solely on sex. Men who don’t respect women cannot bond with them in an intimate way. If you instead focus on the qualities you like, qualities that I’m sure Anna possessed, and interact and connect with more women like her, you will begin making love and exit the global fuckfest you’re loosing yourself in. I say this with respect and excitement as a fan of your writing and authentic style. I cannot wait to read articles focused on women’s assets since most of us are well aware of their shortcomings.

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” I cannot wait to read articles focused on women’s assets…”

Can you name some of these assets?

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Tits? Ass? Pussy?

Oh, and why would he want to exit a global fuckfest anyway?

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And that my friend is the question of the year!!!!!!

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Femininity, a nurturing instinct, intelligence, flexibility, compassion, emotional availability, sensuality, warmth, etc. What if Roosh began looking for these qualities and wrote about how to readily identify women who possessed most of these? In other words, can you start focusing on a solution? I’m sure all heterosexual, healthy men want intimate relationships with women they really like and respect. ..with women that love and respect their boners.

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Hilarious. This is one of the most funny things i’ve read in a long while. You were being sarcastic…right?

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Well after your reaction…sure I was being sarcastic. No but seriously, I know he comes across good women enough to write about it. Where do they hang out? How do they look? What do they say? Why can we hear more about all the Annas of the world? If you always expect to be disappointed then that’s what you’ll be. Thoughts are powerful and they shape our reality.

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Sadly I don’t think that’s what most of these guys are here for. They want to vent their anger, pat each other on the back, perpetuate and justify using women only for sex and treating them badly. I’m not saying that women aren’t part of the problem, but the men on this blog are not looking to start a positive conversation about women. Even though that means they will shape their reality for the worse. I find it disappointing, too.

If you want to read a constructive approach, albeit one targeted at women rather than men, try http://therulesrevisited.com/

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Wow, I really liked that blog. That’s exactly what I was talking about. Finding, creating and sharing solutions. Thank you so much for sharing.

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“I’m sure all heterosexual, healthy men want intimate relationships with women they really like and respect. ..with women that love and respect their boners.”

Hahahahahahaha……I be damned!

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Those qualities are not to be found in Western girls lol. Even in the FSU those girls are ridiculously rare.

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good call. Gays have a higher hiv rate and coulda passed it to her and she would be an unknown carrier.
this should be eye opener. Of what foreign women think of western men. They see you as well behaved doormats thatll be happy to fuck em and take good care of them…the ultimate beta bucks

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American women are fat and just wrong.

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I live in Europe you cannot argue that the American mentality is everywhere now.
Even poor people own smartphones, data plans are €9 a month here.

I would be enlightened and grateful if more of your articles defined strategy on avoiding these types of people. Having class is now a lost art.

There has to be a universal one off screening question you could have asked her to even have avoided the disappointment.

The disappointment came because your expectations bar was so high up and came crashing in a moments notice, had you not let it get that high no disappointment would have occurred.

We all have limited time on this planet, it’s best not to waste it on those who are on a different path than our own.

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I agree. So many European girls have become addicted to their smartphones

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tartphones* (hate to be a grammer ashkenazi)

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I said in another post that discerning connoisseurs had already dumped Poland by the time it joined the EU, ie 2004.

This article shows the reason why.

If I wanted to game a girl who has shagged an Italian, slept with a lesbian and banged a gay guy, I might as well stay in London. At least I get quality lifestyle and, well, class (which Eastern Europe is utterly devoid of).

I operate farther east to Poland. Any girl who

1) speaks English, or

2) has been abroad, or

3) dated a foreigner

is instantly dropped.

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See now this is the list of qualifications guys need to have these days!

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But do you LIVE in the points farther east? Multiple visits to Ukraine/Russia is one thing, but living there is another. Poland, in spite of its flaws, is way more livable.

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I see the exchange rates (vs. the American Dollar)…..Ukraine will soon be 32:1 & with the Ruble tanking, Russia is dam near 64:1 … seriously.

http://www.onlineconversion.com/currency_conversion.htm

Very liveable in my opinion. I’m a regular Rockefellar East of the Dniper

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We choose these places because of the quality of their women. The highest-quality live in dumps. And surviving the dump is just part of the price to pay for quality women.

Alistair
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I concur. I almost exclusively go for the provincials, way far from the major urban centres.

Alistair
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Anything east of Berlin is non livable by my standards, pussy is their only saving grace.

Warsaw is only marginally better than Minsk lifestyle wise, and
if you are an urban hard-core, Warsaw and the rest of Poland pale in comparison to Moscow.

To answer your question, I do live further east, for the reasons I mentioned: Quality unspoiled pussy.

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“Poland has become irrelevant”.

It was always a good pussy-hunting ground, but then again so were most Western countries. Scandinavia, Germany, even France… All of these places could, and still can, provide you with fast lays with fairly attractive girls, assuming you were a man with game.

The problem with Poland was that Roosh publicized it as a K-selected ground where men could go to find a good girl to connect with. Nothing is farther from the truth. The place is not irrelevant for pussy-hunters, but if sex is the only goal, Africa or Scandinavia will provide it more amply.

The move East came mostly from older experienced players. After many years in the game, an ONS with a Western slut provides little to no value, I’m sure many older players will agree. There was a shift towards the importance of human value in women, and it was obvious the carousel-riders in the West were no good for that.

Poland is still relevant, but only for younger guys with low notch-counts who still don’t care about human value and are looking for raunchy impersonal sex with girls he’ll never see again. That is all fine and well, it IS a part of every player’s journey, but the shift towards K-selection in men always happens. And when it does happen, it is time to move East.

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what do you think about Czech Republic and Hungary?

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I rate the entire eastern bloc of the EU as irrelevant now. You should have gone there prior to 2004.

I was in Riga over the weekend and it’s no exaggeration saying that a third of the city has since left to Germany, England and Denmark (and elsewhere). You’re now left with single moms and I-phone absorbed youngsters believing they are the next Kim Kardashian.

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My advice;
1. Learn Russian.
2. Bang Russians.

Forget any other ethnicity in the FSU. They all have bad attitudes. I’ve been to Russia and the Russian speaking parts of Ukraine. I was literally fighting off women when I was there. Go to places that are a bit dangerous (they’re not nearly as bad as you think) and the quality of pussy is so fresh it hardly smells of fish. I’ve always found when traveling that the further off the beaten track I go, the greater the rewards.
This year I have my sights set on Kaliningrad and Crimea. I reckon the visa problems alone will keep most foreigners away, meaning more pooty-tang for me.

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Crimea. Officers’ daughters looking for husbands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTaapS79rU8

Further East: Blagovochensk (east of Mongolia on the Chinese border)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPyIk1xvHcA

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Amen, brother. Good, solid comment.

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“Fighting off women” is bullshit.

It is 10x harder to bang an FSU girl than any Western girl. No illusions. We go there because the girls are BETTER, not because they are easier. They are not easier.

FSU is the hardest game in the world. Until you’ve fucked dozens of Western girls and your game is tight as balls, you shouldn’t even consider it.

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The trick is knowing where to look. Hint: get friendly with some Russian guys and let them take you places no tourist will know. You won’t just get pussy, you will get wild felines that went extinct in the West long ago.

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> … women, who according to Cosmopolitan magazine are supposedly better communicators than men …

“According to Cosmopolitan”: need we say more? Women, in my experience, are complete fuck-ups with regards to communication. Until I discovered RP, I’d never have been able to vocalize this.

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Well, I suppose she was being honest with you by letting you know her sexual past, even though you didn’t want to hear it and your idea of fucking her went down like a lead balloon. She was being sincere, a lot of American girls wouldn’t tell you that they have done worse things.

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I have only 3 qualifications:
1.) She is disease free
2.) She hasn’t had a kid
3.) She doesn’t have a sex tape viewable on the internet

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Good Luck.

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I applaud you from walking a way from a woman who brags of her lesbianism (not to mention the fag hag part).
One of the greatest tragedies of the Western man is how he cheers on the lesbianism of his women. “Girls Gone Wild,” “I Kissed a Girl and I Liked It,” and on and on. He is so thirsty that no degeneracy is beyond his condemnation. Just give him a crumb of affection and he will leave his virtue at the door. There has never been a great civilization in the history of the world, at least one I know, where the men encouraged homosexuality amongst the women.
There is as much cuckoldry in a man allowing his woman to pursue lesbianism, as there is in allowing her to be gangbanged,
I applaud you, sir.

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I think Roosh that you and the many men like you are going to have issues with women no matter where you go because the problem is…. wait for it….. you. You could make the stupidest and most naive of women dry up like the Sahara in the middle of summer with your effeminate looks and cry baby demeanor. Your upset because women can’t be forced into marriage with men like yourself anymore, and in fact many women choose to remain single, and are happy with that choice because it’s better than the alternative, men like you. Better still, many women are in relationships with very decent, nice men who treat them with dignity and respect that they deserve and don’t have to settle for men like you, and they choose these men not for their looks or their money, but for their character. News Flash. Know why these men aren’t on here whining, because they’re real men and have no problem getting quality relationships, sexual or otherwise. Instead of complaining and whining ‘because women don’t add up to your standards’ take some your own advice and start improving yourself. You can start with stopping your whining, which is a total turn off for either sex above age 16 or has a maturity level above the age of 13, no matter what culture you come from. Grow up and grow a pair. I’ve met women and children who snivel less than you do.

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“Grow up and grow a…” nice HIV infection, courtesy Faghag Agingslutsowitz? Great advice.

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The takeway from this raging incoherence seems to be “wymminz rool ok? grrrrl! powerrrrrr!. hu r u 2 say that gendr r race betrayal is wrong???? hu r u 2 impose ur p8riachal standardz on my bodi (MY CHOICE!!!!!) evry child shud b prowd of getting herpes off her mothr who has sukd&fukd hundrdz of dikz. (notice I sed ‘her’ coz of course we abort all nasT boi babiez) u shud luv us no matr wot… or else!!!!! u’ll get tazered by the despr8 wite nite betaz at my bek n call hu wud go seppuku 4 a vapour whiff of our rancid slitz dat smel lyke piss’

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Emma Sulkowicz AKA Mattress Girl; Body Language Reivew:

At 0:11 she looks down and away after stating she was raped in
her own dorm bed. Then at 0.18 she glimpses back briefly to see if the interviewer
bought into it. According to Carol Kinsey Gorman this is a common response that
often follows a lie. She also does a lot of hand wringing which is linked to discomfort,
anxiety, and frustration (perhaps resulting from the increased cognitive load of
making up a story). The gesture at 0:22 could have more meaning though I’ve yet
to decipher it. Yes, it reeks of armchair pseudo science quackery, but is consistent
with the paper trail indicating she is lying. Conclusion: would definitely bang…in
the ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9hHZbuYVnU

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Do you know how you sometimes say sexual stuff, to screen out girls that are shy / squares / up-tight?

Looks like you’ve been screened out, Roosh

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Well done Roosh!

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I don’t understand why you’re complaining of her confession at the same time you don’t want to fuck someone who’s fucked a gay man. If that were really a hard limit, then her confession was to your benefit. I’d kind of expect that you’d be grateful for her honesty. Sure, the boner was killed, but it was also saved from making a potential mistake which might have been boner-killing in a different way.

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Who knows how many women you’ve already fucked that have fucked gay men? Perhaps, there is a feminist conspiracy to infect all red-pill men with HIV. Those that can’t be imprisoned by false rape accusations. Has anybody else considered this?

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If a woman told me that she fucked a gay man. I would run away from her at top speed, even if she is the most beautiful woman I have seen. She probably got HIV.

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“Men do not have the social immunity that women have.”

Had someone told me this when I was younger it would have saved a lot of anguish.

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You whiff the more relevant reason women are more selective, it’s because sex is a much bigger risk to their reputation and to their body (a baby/STD/physical abuse). Sex just isn’t nearly as risky for men so there’s less downside to letting the quality slide, desperate or not.

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Why not stick to Muslim Persian chicks instead of making our women your whores? After expressing your hate for white people, it seems kind of sadistic that you spend your entire life trying to damage our women.

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“I wanted to understand why. Why do women, who according to Cosmopolitan
magazine are supposedly better communicators than men, so skilled at
anti-seductive and anti-boner behavior as they get older?”

Many people, and probably Cosmo writers, associate bluntness, openness, spilling the beans and radical honesty with “good communication”.

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Good Roosh, I’m glad you did not sleep with her and let her know why. I think women should be more on the hook for their embarrassing, un-appealing behavior at least as much as us men are. Then maybe they will be a little more fair in judging our actions and speech without flaking out. If all us men started acting as flaky as these women then maybe they would become a little less flaky themselves.

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At least the girl was honest

fuckadelic
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RESPECT THE COCK and TAME THE CUNT, TAME IT.

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Dude. You seriously worry about losing you ability to bond ‘properly’ with women in the future? Sheesh.
I have news for you: you have lost that ability, if you ever had it, a long time ago. You are a sociopathic waste, unfit for human relationships and destined to wallow in your own filth for the rest of your miserable life.
Enjoy the bed you’ve made for yourself.

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So I guess we need to start calling women out in their bullshit. Fuck all deez bitches

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Btw Roosh I’m in lviv right now. Place is real small and sucks. Any specific tips for lviv??

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I think you whine far too much, and I think whether I tolerated this comment or not would depend entirely on whether she was truly hot or not. Fact is, simple vaginal penetration with a condom is very unlikely to transmit HIV, even without is unlikely. He prob didn’t have HIV to start with.

It’s a problem that a girl felt she needed to give this history, but she was trying to be honest as she saw fit. You, as usual, needed to act like some kind of demi god superior to all, which as far as I can tell, you are quite not, since screwing and writing about it, and copping attitude about being supreme is pretty much the extent of your achievements. Most losers don’t achieve your level of lay, but most real winners do a whole lot more, and getting laid becomes a sideshow to their real success, not the central career. Being a superior jerk may get you lay from women with no ego, but it’s not doing the sexes any favors, and I doubt you’re pulling that much quality, both physically and character-wise.

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Many women do not realize that men work off a scoring system when it comes to meeting women in the first few hours. While the initial contact score is based heavily on looks, the score shifts rather quickly to attitude, flirtation skill, and conversational prowess. I don’t care how hot a girl is or thinks she is, if she says dumb things as mentioned in the article above, their score drops like a rock. Women need to realize that erections are physiological in nature, which is very much influenced by attitude, and conversational hiccups.

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Roosh, sometimes you are a man of contradictions. You run around talking about how to have as much free sex as possible and then decry the fact that women are diluted by men’s behavior, such as your own. Ye men who criticize the CC……you are the carousel on which she rides.

And furthermore, for me personally, and maybe this is ONLY me, feelings of jealousy or frustration only exist when I want a girl for more than something simple and I’m just another of the guys she sees or if I don’t actually have close contact with her. When I’m with a girl one-on-one and having sex with her, I don’t really care much for anything but just me and her, even despite having had misgivings in my mind beforehand. Hell, I even was banging the chick in question while my friend tapped it on the side, and we both didn’t give two fucks about each other doing it on the periphery.