You’re a young woman who fornicated for the first time and are now convinced that you made the biggest mistake of your life. You did make a mistake, but the fact that you’re remorseful is a positive sign that you can overcome what you’ve done and move forward in a way that serves God more faithfully.

Virginity lost

The stories are usually the same. You met an attractive man who appeared charming, kind, and patient. He knew the right things to alleviate your concerns about going too far too fast. He seemed to put out signals that he wanted to be with you long-term though you never explicitly asked him for commitment. While petting and kissing, many times you said “No” or “Stop” and he obeyed, though sometimes reluctantly. He lavished praise on your beauty. He exclaimed how much you were turning him on. No man has ever kissed or caressed you like that before. You felt excited over wielding the power of your sexuality. You couldn’t believe that such a “natural” intimate act could be wrong. The moment took over, your will seemed to disappear. Next thing you knew, you’re in the middle of a sex act that felt far less enjoyable than the kisses and touches that preceded it. You wanted to escape, to be somewhere else, but too late now. His orgasm is complete. He lay beside you but he might as well be in the next town over. You try to convince yourself that maybe he is the one, yet within only a few days, he’s taking longer to reply to your text messages. He acts as if he doesn’t even care.

For your sake, I hope this is the biggest mistake you’ll make in your life, because there is much worse you can do. You let a fantasy of sexual passion supplant your faith, which was too weak to resist the advances of an attractive man who used stock lines and techniques, perhaps ones that I wrote about in my now-unpublished fornication books. The connection you felt with him was lust and not love, centered around physical appearance and emotion. You cared about him much less than you think, and he cared about you even less than that. He’s already moved on, lining up his next sex partner, hoping that new flesh will save him in the same way you looked to him to save you, but now you’re holding the bag of the virginity you lost that can never be given to your husband.

Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which you are. (1 Corinthians 3:16-17)

The first thing you must do is beg God for forgiveness. He created you as a Holy Temple, and you sinned by defiling it through a sex act outside of marriage. While fornication is normalized in the world, and most people participate in it, it’s no less grievous in the eyes of God. You turned away from Him through your actions, as if saying you don’t care for Him or His plan for your life, that you are going to make your own plan that you learned from the world. The grief you feel is a conscience that is in pain, but don’t despair: our sins are forgiven if we turn to our Savior Jesus Christ. Ask Him to keep you away from all acts of sex outside of marriage. If you’re in a church that has the sacrament of confession, confess before your priest so that he may absolve you of the sin.

Should you enter a relationship with the male fornicator?

Maybe your tempter is not a bad man after all, you think, and only needs a little urging and training so that a loving Christian pair bond can come forth. If he has gone cold on you after sex, you already have an answer that he is not suitable. He saw you as a vehicle for an orgasm and dose of pride, and if he was smooth in getting you into bed, he is not the type of man you should continue communicating with. Trying to ease into a relationship with him is the same as trying to tame Satan, because that is the evil force that he was in communion with based on what he did to you.

How about if the man was a Christian and feels as guilty as you do? If both of you were in a courtship that was headed towards marriage, it may be worth continuing the relationship with the understanding that you can’t have sex again before marriage. If you told the player that you want a relationship without sex, I am confident you would not hear from him again, and if you do, it would be for him to finagle another late-night rendezvous (he will surely insist on dates where you drink alcohol). If you decide to sin with the same man again, you’re using your free will to run away from God. In that case, may He have mercy on you. All harlots of today used to be virgins, and it only took a few mistakes from them to graduate to sex with multiple partners and then online prostitution.

A problem of faith

Since your faith was too weak to resist sexual temptation, you must examine yourself and find out why you rebuked God for a false sense of happiness. Do you maintain a daily prayer rule? Do you regularly read the Bible, particularly the New Testament? Do you attend church every Sunday with no exception? Do you participate in fellowship with other Christians instead of cosmopolitanites? Do you use Christian morality to guide your decisions instead of your emotions? Do you steer clear from dopamine-feeding social media apps and entertainments? A woman doesn’t go from being a devout Christian to having casual sex in one step, so do a self-examination of your daily routines and habits that made falling so easy.

The good news is that even with a partner count of one, you are doing better than most women. There will still be men who want to marry you. With the aid of Christ, you will overcome your mistake. Think of this as the beginning of your new life. Up to now, your faith may have been mostly theoretical or based on old habits from going to church as a child. You believed that there is a God somewhere who loves you and has strict rules for you, but maybe a little bit of “moderation” wouldn’t be so bad, that one instance of sex couldn’t possibly cause harm, and maybe it could be liberating or even empowering like the women’s websites claim. The guilt and pain you feel is what happens when you fall for Satan’s lies, for seeking liberation from God, who loves you as if you’re the only human being in the world. Your anguish is a microcosm of what promiscuous women feel every day, but who have deadened their conscience to such an extent that they insist on hoisting all their anger and bitterness upon men.

Keep your eyes on Christ. Resist temptation. Don’t allow a handsome man to smooth-talk you into committing fornication. Don’t allow a man to ply you with alcohol. Don’t sit alone with a man on beds or couches. Strengthen your faith and wait for God to send you a man who forgives your sins as you forgive his so that you come together in one flesh to worship God instead of worldly pleasures and idols, and if it ever gets too hard, simply cry out to God. He will help you every step of the way.

Read Next: 6 Signs That A Woman Is In Rebellion

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So You Just Lost Your Virginity To A Man And Feel Horrible​

That would really suck if I did!

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Good move switching the comment system on rooshv.com, that should keep the trolling down.

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Since your faith was too weak to resist sexual temptation, you must examine yourself and find out why you rebuked God for a false sense of happiness. Do you maintain a daily prayer rule? Do you regularly read the Bible, particularly the New Testament? Do you attend church every Sunday with no exception? Do you participate in fellowship with other Christians instead of cosmopolitanites? Do you use Christian morality to guide your decisions instead of your emotions? Do you steer clear from dopamine-feeding social media apps and entertainments? A woman doesn’t go from being a devout Christian to having casual sex in one step, so do a self-examination of your daily routines and habits that made falling so easy.

I like the above cited paragraph in particular. All you have to do is replace "sexual temptation" and "having casual sex" with literally any other sin (as well as "woman" with "man", if you're not a woman,) and you have a very efficient and succinct diagnostic tool to examine the current state of your spiritual maturity; especially in regards to a besetting sin that is an exceptionally bedeviling thorn in your flesh.

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What if your first time was when you were raped as a child by an adult? Then what happens?

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What if your first time was when you were raped as a child by an adult? Then what happens?

Then only the last sentence of Roosh's article applies to your situation.

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How about if the man was a Christian and feels as guilty as you do? If both of you were in a courtship that was headed towards marriage, it may be worth continuing the relationship

There's no maybe about it.

And their feelings are immaterial. They should marry.

God never intended sex to be without commitment. Period.

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I can totally relate to this. I’m a single woman who messed up many times before Christ found me and rescued me...

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What if your first time was when you were raped as a child by an adult? Then what happens?

There are typically two lines of thinking, all people will likely take one of 2 paths.

One, they will be a victim, cynical and angry their whole life. If they choose this route, even when they get a husband (speaking of women) they will make him suffer by not being intimate with him.

A second option, they work through the issues, the ptsd, the anger - they then marry, have children (live selflessly for their kids), and offer their husband intimacy. Dr. Laura writes about this in her book titled "Bad Childhood-Good Life: How to Blossom and Thrive in Spite of an Unhappy Childhood Paperback – May 29, 2007".

If you know of a third option, please share.

John 3:16

Plus, go into the world and save souls, the Holy spirit will help you, and pay your tithes.

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According to the law of marriage found in the Holy Bible, this hypothetical man and virgin became one physically and spiritually upon the first act of intercourse. Gen. 2:24, 24:67,34:1-3, 1 Cor 6:13-16. All this woman can do now is plead with this man to live up to his marital obligation by going to her father, confessing what he has done and keeping her as his woman all his days. Deut. 22:28-29. I am certainly no Bible scholar, but I see no scriptural support for her being eligible to become another man's woman. This is a sad scenario that unfortunately probably describes 80+% of western women both in and out of the church, both single and "married". The church has utterly failed to teach the truth on this matter, focusing instead on cheap grace because its intellectually easy to grasp and appeals to the "feelz".

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According to the law of marriage found in the Holy Bible, this hypothetical man and virgin became one physically and spiritually upon the first act of intercourse. Gen. 2:24, 24:67,34:1-3, 1 Cor 6:13-16. All this woman can do now is plead with this man to live up to his marital obligation by going to her father, confessing what he has done and keeping her as his woman all his days. Deut. 22:28-29. I am certainly no Bible scholar, but I see no scriptural support for her being eligible to become another man's woman. This is a sad scenario that unfortunately probably describes 80+% of western women both in and out of the church, both single and "married". The church has utterly failed to teach the truth on this matter, focusing instead on cheap grace because its intellectually easy to grasp and appeals to the "feelz".

Anyone care to comment on this? "but I see no scriptural support for her being eligible to become another man's woman."

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It’s a great article, as usual. However, Roosh, and I ask this with respect, will you consider writing articles with a more proactive flavor? I like all your articles and you inspired me greatly in the past year, but they are becoming repetitive in nature. They are focusing nearly exclusively on sin, recommended reading, and self-reflection. I believe they can be a turnoff with such a repetitive nature for lost men. Me, I’m married, in RCIA, attend mass regularly, have two kids, and a career, and friends. I’m already on a track, so I can absorb the self-loathing, dark tone.

But why not add in variety on what should be done?! What about an article on the Parable of Talents? God wants men to use their talents and fulfill potential.

What about these topics?
Self defense
Survivalism, prepping
Fitness, health
Investing
Career
Marriage, child raising
Gardening
Anything DIY
Education, homeschooling
Investing

The lord does not want most of us simply praying, mourning, and repenting all day! That’s part of it but he wants most of us doing something and multiplying!

I’m interested in other input on this.

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You’re a young woman who fornicated for the first time and are now convinced that you made the biggest mistake of your life. You did make a mistake, but the fact that you’re remorseful is a positive sign that you can overcome what you’ve done and move forward in a way that serves God more faithfully.

Virginity lost​

The stories are usually the same. You met an attractive man who appeared charming, kind, and patient. He knew the right things to alleviate your concerns about going too far too fast. He seemed to put out signals that he wanted to be with you long-term though you never explicitly asked him for commitment. While petting and kissing, many times you said “No” or “Stop” and he obeyed, though sometimes reluctantly. He lavished praise on your beauty. He exclaimed how much you were turning him on. No man has ever kissed or caressed you like that before. You felt excited over wielding the power of your sexuality. You couldn’t believe that such a “natural” intimate act could be wrong. The moment took over, your will seemed to disappear. Next thing you knew, you’re in the middle of a sex act that felt far less enjoyable than the kisses and touches that preceded it. You wanted to escape, to be somewhere else, but too late now. His orgasm is complete. He lay beside you but he might as well be in the next town over. You try to convince yourself that maybe he is the one, yet within only a few days, he’s taking longer to reply to your text messages. He acts as if he doesn’t even care.

For your sake, I hope this is the biggest mistake you’ll make in your life, because there is much worse you can do. You let a fantasy of sexual passion supplant your faith, which was too weak to resist the advances of an attractive man who used stock lines and techniques, perhaps ones that I wrote about in my now-unpublished fornication books. The connection you felt with him was lust and not love, centered around physical appearance and emotion. You cared about him much less than you think, and he cared about you even less than that. He’s already moved on, lining up his next sex partner, hoping that new flesh will save him in the same way you looked to him to save you, but now you’re holding the bag of the virginity you lost that can never be given to your husband.

The first thing you must do is beg God for forgiveness. He created you as a Holy Temple, and you sinned by defiling it through a sex act outside of marriage. While fornication is normalized in the world, and most people participate in it, it’s no less grievous in the eyes of God. You turned away from Him through your actions, as if saying you don’t care for Him or His plan for your life, that you are going to make your own plan that you learned from the world. The grief you feel is a conscience that is in pain, but don’t despair: our sins are forgiven if we turn to our Savior Jesus Christ. Ask Him to keep you away from all acts of sex outside of marriage. If you’re in a church that has the sacrament of confession, confess before your priest so that he may absolve you of the sin.

Should you enter a relationship with the male fornicator?​

Maybe your tempter is not a bad man after all, you think, and only needs a little urging and training so that a loving Christian pair bond can come forth. If he has gone cold on you after sex, you already have an answer that he is not suitable. He saw you as a vehicle for an orgasm and dose of pride, and if he was smooth in getting you into bed, he is not the type of man you should continue communicating with. Trying to ease into a relationship with him is the same as trying to tame Satan, because that is the evil force that he was in communion with based on what he did to you.

How about if the man was a Christian and feels as guilty as you do? If both of you were in a courtship that was headed towards marriage, it may be worth continuing the relationship with the understanding that you can’t have sex again before marriage. If you told the player that you want a relationship without sex, I am confident you would not hear from him again, and if you do, it would be for him to finagle another late-night rendezvous (he will surely insist on dates where you drink alcohol). If you decide to sin with the same man again, you’re using your free will to run away from God. In that case, may He have mercy on you. All harlots of today used to be virgins, and it only took a few mistakes from them to graduate to sex with multiple partners and then online prostitution.

A problem of faith​

Since your faith was too weak to resist sexual temptation, you must examine yourself and find out why you rebuked God for a false sense of happiness. Do you maintain a daily prayer rule? Do you regularly read the Bible, particularly the New Testament? Do you attend church every Sunday with no exception? Do you participate in fellowship with other Christians instead of cosmopolitanites? Do you use Christian morality to guide your decisions instead of your emotions? Do you steer clear from dopamine-feeding social media apps and entertainments? A woman doesn’t go from being a devout Christian to having casual sex in one step, so do a self-examination of your daily routines and habits that made falling so easy.

The good news is that even with a partner count of one, you are doing better than most women. There will still be men who want to marry you. With the aid of Christ, you will overcome your mistake. Think of this as the beginning of your new life. Up to now, your faith may have been mostly theoretical or based on old habits from going to church as a child. You believed that there is a God somewhere who loves you and has strict rules for you, but maybe a little bit of “moderation” wouldn’t be so bad, that one instance of sex couldn’t possibly cause harm, and maybe it could be liberating or even empowering like the women’s websites claim. The guilt and pain you feel is what happens when you fall for Satan’s lies, for seeking liberation from God, who loves you as if you’re the only human being in the world. Your anguish is a microcosm of what promiscuous women feel every day, but who have deadened their conscience to such an extent that they insist on hoisting all their anger and bitterness upon men.

Keep your eyes on Christ. Resist temptation. Don’t allow a handsome man to smooth-talk you into committing fornication. Don’t allow a man to ply you with alcohol. Don’t sit alone with a man on beds or couches. Strengthen your faith and wait for God to send you a man who forgives your sins as you forgive his so that you come together in one flesh to worship God instead of worldly pleasures and idols, and if it ever gets too hard, simply cry out to God. He will help you every step of the way.

Read Next: 6 Signs That A Woman Is In Rebellion


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Fascinating. Any expertise on the male point of view?

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Anyone care to comment on this? "but I see no scriptural support for her being eligible to become another man's woman."

Old Covenant ceremonial law, prescribed for a particular people (Old Covenant Hebrews) in a particular context (the ancient Middle East) is being applied in a well intentioned but incorrect way.

A good example of this is the Old Covenant practice of slavery. It was more akin to indentured servitude or having a soul crushing 9-5 job, than the classic image of the whips and chains and kidnapping of the African slave trade (there are even verses such as Exodus 21:16, Deuteronomy 24:7, and 1 Timothy 1:10, that expressly prohibit kidnapping for the purposes of slave trade.) It was usually entered into voluntarily in order to get out of debt. There was even a Jubilee that was enacted every 9 years, that released the slaves and relieved them of their debts. Thus it was never meant to be a permanent condition, but rather a source of security for people during a time when things like unemployment benefits, deferred payments, etc. did not exist. Outside of Old Covenant Hebrew society, far worse fates awaited people who fell into debt.

In a similar manner, the Old Covenant code that dictated a rapist would be compelled to take his victim as his wife, was a form of security for the victim in lieu of a better option at the time. There was a stigma that once a woman lost her virginity, most men would not want her and consider her "ruined." Thus the rapist was quite possibly her only option for future security, support, and offspring. Plus, the verse from Deuteronomy is deeply implied to be a punishment for the rapist as well. He literally cannot divorce her as long as he lives, or else.

There are other similar ceremonial laws designed for their time. Sanctuary cities for those who accidentally commit manslaughter, to run to for refuge from a revenging family, in lieu of police and a more developed modern justice system. Pork was partially prohibited because of it being unclean in not only an Old Covenant spiritual sense, but in a very literal sense. Pork is notorious for being infested with parasites, unless prepared properly.

Also, keep in mind, even in the Old Covenant, there were men who displayed mercy that went far beyond the bare minimum of the Law. Boaz took Ruth to be his wife, though she was a heathen, and even though it would be disadvantageous to him, due to Hebrew custom dictating that Boaz's children through Ruth would essentially be those of Ruth's deceased husband out of duty, and thus his estate would no longer technically be his. (Ruth 4: 1-10.)

Even Jesus says that Old Covenant Laws were designed for a hard hearted and merciless people void of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 19:1-9.)

Joseph wanting to put Mary away quietly and without public scandal, and thus not putting Mary into a position where she could be stoned or even burned to death, when he was doubtful of the holiness of her conception, was an extraordinary act of mercy that went way past the bar set by the Law.

I could go on, but the bottom line is that we are in a period of a Covenant of Grace and Mercy. Going above and beyond the bare minimum set by the Law should be normative for those indwelt with the Holy Spirit (i.e. now even looking at a woman with lust in your eyes is just as bad as actual adultery.) In other words, having mercy on a woman who has been the victim of rape is a no brainer. If even in the Old Covenant, God once commanded the prophet Hosea to marry the prostitute Gomer, in order to be a foreshadowing of Jesus' redemption of the spiritual prostitutes that all we saved once were, I fail to see how marrying a woman who was the victim of rape is unscriptural (especially in light of her rapist supposed "husband" being guilty of obvious sexual immorality: one of the conditions Jesus gives for divorce.)

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Old Covenant ceremonial law, prescribed for a particular people (Old Covenant Hebrews) in a particular context (the ancient Middle East) is being applied in a well intentioned but incorrect way.

A good example of this is the Old Covenant practice of slavery. It was more akin to indentured servitude or having a soul crushing 9-5 job, than the classic image of the whips and chains and kidnapping of the African slave trade (there are even verses such as Exodus 21:16, Deuteronomy 24:7, and 1 Timothy 1:10, that expressly prohibit kidnapping for the purposes of slave trade.) It was usually entered into voluntarily in order to get out of debt. There was even a Jubilee that was enacted every 9 years, that released the slaves and relieved them of their debts. Thus it was never meant to be a permanent condition, but rather a source of security for people during a time when things like unemployment benefits, deferred payments, etc. did not exist. Outside of Old Covenant Hebrew society, far worse fates awaited people who fell into debt.

In a similar manner, the Old Covenant code that dictated a rapist would be compelled to take his victim as his wife, was a form of security for the victim in lieu of a better option at the time. There was a stigma that once a woman lost her virginity, most men would not want her and consider her "ruined." Thus the rapist was quite possibly her only option for future security, support, and offspring. Plus, the verse from Deuteronomy is deeply implied to be a punishment for the rapist as well. He literally cannot divorce her as long as he lives, or else.

There are other similar ceremonial laws designed for their time. Sanctuary cities for those who accidentally commit manslaughter, to run to for refuge from a revenging family, in lieu of police and a more developed modern justice system. Pork was partially prohibited because of it being unclean in not only an Old Covenant spiritual sense, but in a very literal sense. Pork is notorious for being infested with parasites, unless prepared properly.

Also, keep in mind, even in the Old Covenant, there were men who displayed mercy that went far beyond the bare minimum of the Law. Boaz took Ruth to be his wife, though she was a heathen, and even though it would be disadvantageous to him, due to Hebrew custom dictating that Boaz's children through Ruth would essentially be those of Ruth's deceased husband out of duty, and thus his estate would no longer technically be his. (Ruth 4: 1-10.)

Even Jesus says that Old Covenant Laws were designed for a hard hearted and merciless people void of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 19:1-9.)

Joseph wanting to put Mary away quietly and without public scandal, and thus not putting Mary into a position where she could be stoned or even burned to death, when he was doubtful of the holiness of her conception, was an extraordinary act of mercy that went way past the bar set by the Law.

I could go on, but the bottom line is that we are in a period of a Covenant of Grace and Mercy. Going above and beyond the bare minimum set by the Law should be normative for those indwelt with the Holy Spirit (i.e. now even looking at a woman with lust in your eyes is just as bad as actual adultery.) In other words, having mercy on a woman who has been the victim of rape is a no brainer. If even in the Old Covenant, God once commanded the prophet Hosea to marry the prostitute Gomer, in order to be a foreshadowing of Jesus' redemption of the spiritual prostitutes that all we saved once were, I fail to see how marrying a woman who was the victim of rape is unscriptural (especially in light of her rapist supposed "husband" being guilty of obvious sexual immorality: one of the conditions Jesus gives for divorce.)

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It was a response to the scenario posed by Roosh, it appears to me at least, to apply equally to the scenario of rape though. I don't know why our being (physical and spiritual) was created to interact this way through intercourse, but it appears to be a permanent state broken only by death. Its tragic and unfair to my human mind, but I don't see any exceptions. Jesus was clear in Matthew 5:17-19 that the law would stand until there be a new heaven and a new earth. Paul understood this well as he stated in 1 John 3:4, "sin is transgression of the law." So to me that means we still have to understand the law of "things", marriage being one of them, unless a particular law is abrogated such as sacrificing lambs for remission of sins. I certainly do not disagree that Jesus' crucifixion brought grace into the world, which we also live under today. In sum, no man is justified by adherence to the law alone (Romans 3:20) but neither his faith nor grace voids the law. Romans 3:31,6: 1-2, 15. Logically, if this isn't so, then all things are lawful to us and there would be no sin in the world for which grace is required.

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Jesus was clear in Matthew 5:17-19 that the law would stand until there be a new heaven and a new earth.

Indeed. Jesus says here that he came to fulfill the law. In other words, to be the final sacrifice to fulfill the requirements of the Old Covenant sacrificial ceremonial system once and for all, that could never be truly fulfilled by animal and grain sacrifices, no matter how many were made. Also, for His sacrifice to enable believers to be inhabited by His Holy Spirit, so that we are strengthened and emboldened, and all but happy to fulfill the moral law, more and more as we become ever further sanctified by abiding in Him. For He is not a mere mortal Levitical priest of the line of Aaron, subject to corruption and death. He is not only our one true final sacrifice, but is our eternal High Priest, forever interceding on our behalf to the Father in Heaven, in the manner of the order of Melchizedek.

The original purpose of the ceremonial law, which is distinct from the moral law, was to set the Hebrew people apart from the Gentiles, and to foreshadow the coming of the Messiah (i.e. animals sacrificed outside of the camp, prefigured Christ being sacrificed outside of the boundaries of Jerusalem.) Now that the Messiah has come, there is no more need for the ceremonial law. It's why Christians can consume pork and shellfish now. It's why Jews can associate with Gentiles without becoming unclean. It's why the Sabbath is no longer observed on Saturday anymore: because Jesus is our Sabbath rest. In Him, we have rest from the formerly required works of the ceremonial law that Saturday was originally a rest from. Even our current rest from the ceremonial law is but a shadow of the permanent eternal rest to come on the 8th day: eternity in paradise with God in the new Kingdom.

If your argument, that "the law is to stand until a new heaven and earth" was referring to ceremonial laws continuing as well too, was taken to it's logical conclusion, Paul's rebukes of the Judaizers, throughout several of his epistles, for trying to bring back the ceremonial laws as a salvific requirement, would make no sense. Paul was especially explicit about this aspect as well. Literally hoping that those still pushing for physical circumcision would just cut the whole thing off. Why? Because still insisting on such ceremonial law in the aftermath of Christ's death and resurrection is an outright slap in the face of our Lord. For we now bear the circumcision of the heart, which is greater and a spiritual reality; not merely symbolic of a covenant to come like physical circumcision was.

Since we live in an age in which purifying pigs of parasites is easier and makes pigs more reliably safe for consumption, we have no need to abstain. With police and justice systems, we have no need of sanctuary cities. With institutions like unemployment, some forms of government support, and 9 to 5 jobs, slavery is no longer necessary. There is also a reason why children are no longer executed for disobeying their parents, nor are people executed for not going to church on Sunday. Jesus Himself, in one of His most iconic moments, did away with the death penalty for adultery. Even when a city rejected Him, and His apostles asked if they should call down fire and brimstone to wipe said city off the face of the Earth akin to Sodom and Gomorrah, Christ rebuked them, saying that is not how things are done anymore.

Thus, in an age of mercy, grace and systems of support in place, there is simply no need to subject a rape victim to marrying her rapist in order for her to be spared the fate of being a penniless, homeless, spinster.

Once again, God had his prophet, Hosea, literally marry the prostitute Gomer, to foreshadow the level of grace and mercy to come with the New Covenant. Hosea took Gomer back as a wife, even when she cheated on him again. Even when Gomer went back into prostitution and was so destitute, that she because a slave whose price on the market was less than even a normal slave, Hosea bought her back. Such was God's expression of love for Isreal, in spite of their straying at the time. Such is Jesus' love for us when we were or are His enemies, and beyond wretched and seemingly hopeless. If God can show such a level of mercy to a prostitute, willfully defiled by who knows how many men, and in the Old Covenant no less, then mercy and grace to a woman who has been unwillingly defiled by one man is nothing. Nothing is impossible with God. Nothing is too hard for Him. His hand is not too short to save.

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It was a response to the scenario posed by Roosh, it appears to me at least, to apply equally to the scenario of rape though. I don't know why our being (physical and spiritual) was created to interact this way through intercourse, but it appears to be a permanent state broken only by death. Its tragic and unfair to my human mind, but I don't see any exceptions. Jesus was clear in Matthew 5:17-19 that the law would stand until there be a new heaven and a new earth. Paul understood this well as he stated in 1 John 3:4, "sin is transgression of the law." So to me that means we still have to understand the law of "things", marriage being one of them, unless a particular law is abrogated such as sacrificing lambs for remission of sins. I certainly do not disagree that Jesus' crucifixion brought grace into the world, which we also live under today. In sum, no man is justified by adherence to the law alone (Romans 3:20) but neither his faith nor grace voids the law. Romans 3:31,6: 1-2, 15. Logically, if this isn't so, then all things are lawful to us and there would be no sin in the world for which grace is required.

Also, I forgot about another additional context to the cited Deuteronomy verse: the woman may not be allowed by her father to marry the rapist at all in the first place, due to the father being her head and authority. If her father can refuse this, then clearly rape is not binding on the level of marriage. Here's a couple of articles that explain this in more detail:

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That would really suck if I did!

These articles are garbage. Now roosh is all sympathetic to women when he used them before. Roosh is a fraud simp

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These articles are garbage. Now roosh is all sympathetic to women when he used them before. Roosh is a fraud simp

Oh you big strong man. You tell him.

Ps good luck in life

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