Social Incompetents

The first time I saw it I did a double take. A man and a woman, who were obviously together, wore headphones on their individual iPods at the same time. I’ve also seen it with same sex friends, usually girls, who sit next to each other on the bus, both wearing headphones. Every now and then they remove one headphone to communicate a few words, and then put it right back.

Only an American can take music, something which if you look at the history is supposed to bring people together, and use it in a way to isolate themselves further from friends and lovers. It’s no coincidence that none of my close friends own iPods. If someone cannot tolerate the company of their own mind for an hour then there is no reason why another human should.

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“If someone cannot tolerate the company of their own mind for an hour then there is no reason why another human should.”

Truer words have never been spoken.

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Hmm I can’t tolerate it without something educational, insightful or interesting to do.

I also don’t want to hear the stupid bitches conversation next to me on the bus, and someone whining about pointeless crap. But I’m a learner dj anyway so listen to a lot of headphone music to count beats and learn where to bring new tracks in, etc smile

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dumb. I’ve ridden the metro to and from work everyday for 5 years and Ive seen that scenario maybe 10 or 12 times out of the hundreds of thousands of people Ive seen using Ipods. This not a phenomenon you are describing. Listening to music is something many people like to do. Its an art form humans have enjoyed for a long time. It expands your mind, it doesnt help you avoid your own mind. stick to self-serving stories of your female conquests and selling your book. this pseudo-psychology and hastily constructed indictments of modern society are lame.

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I think what is worse is when I see people (mostly girls) txt nonstop on their phones while out with others instead of actually interacting with those people that are with her.

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Chuck hit it on the head.

Your obvious sense of all knowing self-worth is blinding you. Everyone has choices in life, but thankfully there are people like you casting unfounded judgements on people you don’t know. You try and repeatedly push the meme that you are this world-wise sage, but actually you are just a douchebag that lives in his parents basement. Your judgements on people who are probably enjoying themselves shows more of who are, than any insight into who these nameless people are that you happened to see across the Metro Car. Give it up. Write about hooking up and being a “free spirit” who dabbles in wikipedia crafted economic diatribes, your social essays only expose how vapid you are.

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1 Anon,
Agreed.

“Listening to music is something many people like to do. Its an art form humans have enjoyed for a long time. It expands your mind, it doesnt help you avoid your own mind.”
Attending concerts, recitals, symphonies yes, listening to music you’ve already heard many times before, as in the case of your ipod, no. Girls who listen to ipods incessantly (outside the gym) are often the most vapid.

And yeah, texting is even worse. A blackberry is always a bad sign.

Chris, props, you made me laugh.

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i knew a couple who would sit on the couch next to each other and use IM instead of speaking to one another. not quite the same, but bizarre nonetheless.

i think your point has some merit to it, we’re becoming an increasingly isolated society, but sometimes you just want to listen to music.

i agree with Yummy Stale Bread on the furious texting thing. i see that more and more…

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Yup, you got it Roosh.. I especially think it’s bizarre when people are riding the Metro or bus and have the headphones in… eventually we’re all going to stop talking to each other completely outside of bars.. it’s kind of scary!

I think I will start bothering people with iPod headphones in and see what happens..

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Sometimes you don’t wanna interact with people. What is wrong wit that?

I’m not sure what it’s like for other females but from the time I leave my house until I get home, every day…I get catcalls, guys will say the most retarded shit like “Yo can I get a ride.” if im gettin my car, ask me where I am from, if I speak English, Yo Maria, Can I talk to you?kind of thing, white guys that I got zero interest in will ask me if I want a green card they would marry me (duh, im nuyorican asshole) and I like to drown it out, especially if I run outside.

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I don’t have much of a problem with iPods. I don’t think I’ve ever been in a situation where someone was using an mp3 player when I wanted to speak with them.

Cell phones (particularly texting) bother me WAY more. People feel they ALWAYS have to check their messages or see who’s calling. I started excluding friends of mine who feel they need to be more connected to their phone than to present company. It’s just poor behavior.

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Man just stop hating on people. If you want to demonstrate that talking to others is better than listening to your iPod, why don’t you just tell us how you had a stimulating conversation with whoever was next to you on the bus this morning?

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The first time I saw it I did a double take. A man and a woman, who were obviously together, wore headphones on their individual iPods at the same time.

It might make a bit of sense if the couple has been together for a long time.

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“Man just stop hating on people. If you want to demonstrate that talking to others is better than listening to your iPod, why don’t you just tell us how you had a stimulating conversation with whoever was next to you on the bus this morning?”

Decent point. But I think the underlying point of the Post is that things like Ipods make it more difficult for people to communicate.

Which to break it down, makes it more difficult to pick up on girls. The dynamic of Street Game has totally been changed by the Ipod (as well as the cell phone).

It is actually now a sub-set of Street Game; picking up girls on cells and with Ipods.

Much more difficult.

Most playboys just ignore the girl with the Ipod…to much work…too much potential to fail.

Maybe I will run a case study on it and crack the code.

There is nothing that can’t be done, after all.

Also, I hate Ipods, nor have I even ever been in a place that sells them.

But I am old-school.

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Jon, everyone knows in DC there’s the unwritten rule not to talk to anyone on the bus.

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But then again, and this is just a thought, couldn’t an Ipod be an opportunity for an opener? If you tapped her on the shoulder and asked her what group she’s listening to, couldn’t that open up a conversation? Most people feel passionate about the music they listen to and enjoy talking about anything they are passionate about. If you could ask her in a way that didn’t seen annoying, she just might want to tell you about the artist she’s listening to and that conversation could lead to something. I admit, you have to have a little bit of guts to approach a girl who’s got headphones on since that could be a signal of not wanting to be bothered, but my guess is that a good number of them love the artists on their ipods and want to tell people about them. And the more obscure and hipster the music is, the more passionate she probably feels about the band and wants to let you know how discreet and hip her taste in music is.

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hey there ho here… now everyone just calm down.

let’s not hate on ipods because some people are rude.

cell phones and ipods carry unwritten rules of courtesy. they are useful and can improve life. for example, when i drive long distances i listen to my ipod through my car’s radio. this way i can listen to cool podcasts that are free with no commercials. but i don’t walk around work like some motherfuckers with my god damn headphones in. that pisses me off. it’s extremely antisocial. the same goes for the cell phone. don’t answer it around people. don’t have your ringer on when you’re with people. keep it in your shoe like me. on vibrate. it tickles!

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Hate on American culture all you want, but the ipod does have some redeeming qualities. They have the most obscure shit listed under podcasts. You can start learning a language or listen to a translation of a thousand year old Persian text while driving/metro-ing/walking to work. Also, a lot of people have lectures for undergrad or professional school on their mp3 players. These are just a few examples I happen to have on mine, but they are pretty convenient and interesting.

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speakeasy,

“But then again, and this is just a thought, couldn’t an Ipod be an opportunity for an opener? If you tapped her on the shoulder and asked her what group she’s listening to, couldn’t that open up a conversation?”

Now your talking. Great opener.

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Plus, if she shoves her ear plugs back in you know she isn’t interested.

If she starts yapping your ear off…Game on.

Great qualifier, and quick too.

No wasted time.

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I saw something similiar this weekend…. two teenage kids kicking the soccer ball, each with the earbuds in their ears. I felt very afraid for society when I saw that…

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completely agree.
I understand most people are just a product of today’s world, without their own mind and character. But listening to music non-stop in a crappy sound is just over the top.

I am a musician (classical) and i love gadgets and technology, but i wouldn’t put myself to listening with earphones the whole day, i love silence in music and in life, it gives the perspective to everything else.

People who so commited to their phones and mp3 players don’t seem to feel secure by themselves in public, they have to draw a barrier that unconnects them from the world.
Now, a couple together (friends or bf&gf) separated by their gadgets is just pathetic!

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You’re quick to take any chance you get to talk crap about Americans.

This “phenomenon” isnt exclusive to us. Visit any major urban area.

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I don’t believe in the theory of friendship where you have to be in some deep conversation every time you meet. Sometimes just sitting next to the other person is plenty. In many ways, you could argue these are true friends.

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haha, these comments are great… no one get’s insulted quite like an Apple fanboy.

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MOST OF YOU MISSED THE POINT!!!!! The post is not about hating on Ipod or music in general, was it that difficult to read and understand it? Stop taking ownership of Ipod so personal…..

Listen to your Ipods, and stuff your ears to fade out everything around your cherished personal bubble, just dont hate when you go everywher else in the world and everyone hates Americans because we dont know shit, and cant socialize with others……everyone here is so closeminded.

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Or…people use iPods to avoid listening to all the bullshit — i.e., metro announcements, kids crying, homeless people asking for change, general incompetence of the American public. I completely disagree with you on this issue, and I am proud iPod Nano owner.

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This is lame. Why do you always have to be in dialogue. I love listening to good music. When I’m in a car, I and many friends would preffer listening to a great CD over conversation, not because weare socially challenged at all. We all have many many friends and get lots of women. We just love our music. I play many instruments though so I’m a big music fan. This thread to me would almost be the equivalent of me saying you are lame for trying to pick up women.