Solutions For Girls

It’s very easy for me to give advice to a guy: work on your game, have many experiences, and commit to a quality woman on your terms, not hers. Once a guy has game, he will have options into his late 30’s and probably beyond. His biggest enemy is himself. His fear, complacency, and insecurities all work to prevent him from getting what he is capable of getting.

It’s different for a woman. All the game in the world won’t matter when she is passed her physical peak and less attractive than younger counterparts. A woman’s biggest enemy is time. The clock is ticking right after college and doubles pace after year 30 is crossed. While many single women at 40 are cultured, intelligent, and make for excellent company, they have missed the marriage boat and will be reduced to competing for the attention of rich players who don’t mind flying these overly experienced mind-fuckers out to some exotic locale for a “romantic” dinner, assuming these women have the means and motivation to keep up their looks. They will die not next to loved ones, but to a pile of money that was her only remaining purpose to strive.

When a woman graduates from college at the age of 22, she thinks she has all the time in the world. She builds up her social circle to prepare for years of drinking and partying. She gets some twangs of doubt after 25, but the partying continues, now at more expensive clubs where more money needs to be spent on the clothing and accessories that go with the lifestyle. Some even go the extra mile by purchasing Mercedes Benz automobiles, an act that used to belong to the exclusive domain of men.

Then 28 and 29 passes and all she has to show for the previous near-decade is a cell phone filled with numbers of guys she “dated.” She hits day spas, gets botox, and then cruises the internet and clubs with a renewed vigor. But it doesn’t work, and 35 is here before you know it. You see her out and it appears she is having a fun time but the developing wrinkles and glassy eyes shows her abject failure at reproduction. She finds new meaning through her career and the massive amounts of subsequent disposable income that allows her to enjoy the finer things in life like luxury condominiums and designer shoes the celebrities wear. But every time she sees a child in a stroller, she wonders what happened.

Women have less time than they think. How long does it take to find a quality man? How long does it take to weed out incompatible men and enter a relationship with one that is worthy? How many relationships fail before the one-year mark? How long does a relationship have to last to make engagement possible? How long is the average engagement? How many engagements fail before the altar is reached? Every now and then you hear a story of someone meeting and then getting married after a few months, but this is the exception. A woman needs to give herself at least five years from that moment she concludes she wants to get married. This means a girl needs to start finding a husband immediately after graduating from college. You’ve arrived way too late in the game if you don’t even think about marriage until you’ve approached 30, when your reproductive peak has passed and your appearance is not what it used to be.

I have three pieces of advice for women who don’t want to end up as a spinster. First, use high school and college as a period to work on your game and fuck around. Find out what men like and improve yourself to be the type of woman that men like. Whether this includes getting rid of your neediness and drama or growing out your hair, figure it out before you start your career. If you are not sure where to start, copy the girls who seem to get all the guys.

One thing you should focus on is being sexy, exuding a certain je ne sais pas that guys find themselves inexplicably drawn into. Go tell a girl raised on Real World to show you what sexy is and she will put on pricey clothing and accessories and search for the nearest watering hole to down enough drinks until she feels comfortable in her own skin. Sexy is body language, tone, subtle movements and details —the way she does things, the way she is. This cannot be purchased at Nordstrom, but only learned with time and through effort.

Second, as soon as you graduate from college, have in your mind the notion that you want to get married soon. Be open to it and think about it daily. Reward men who put time and energy into you instead of the players who just want to fuck you. Fuck all the players you want in college, but after that buy a vibrator and don’t waste your time with them because they will not marry you. Sacrifice wild sex and roller coaster emotions for something more stable that results in a family (which is what you want, right?).

Hold off on putting out as long as possible. If I have sex with a girl on the second date and it was just okay, I’ll be more likely to drop her since I have invested very little in her. But if sex happens on date ten, the psychology of previous investment says I will most likely continue, at least for one more date. Understand: your vagina is the most powerful thing you have. To potential suitors, it should be like the El Dorado, a magical land they will die trying to gain access to. But when you partake in casual sex like one-night stands, your vagina becomes more like the 24-hour convenience store.

Lastly, don’t go to bars and clubs often. Once a week is enough. These are horrible places to meet a quality man who wants to commit, and the drinking and smoke will age you more rapidly. Focus on doing more community driven events that don’t have the immediate one-night payoff that a bar has. Maybe it’s volunteering, jogging clubs, spinning class, or book clubs. You’ll have to get creative. I’m not an expert with regard to meeting men, but even at a coffee shop I get to meet and know girls on a different, more intelligent, more meaningful level than I do with girls at bars. A good rule-of-thumb is that the reason you meet has to be something other than the result of drinking alcohol.

It’s easy to make fun of the current generation of spinsters, but I do feel bad for them because there was no way for them to know that their lifestyle would prove to be so detrimental to forming a family. But we’ve observed and studied them and they’ve been written about in the mainstream media enough to the point where there are no excuses for not avoiding their fate. If you are a girl under the age of 25, I will have no sympathy for you in the next decade when you whine to me that you’ve always wanted a family but for whatever reason couldn’t find a man. It starts now.

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Capitalism is helluva drug…

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How do you explain someone like Helen Mirren then, who is into her 60s and still looks pretty hot? Freak of nature? Expensive, well done, plastic surgery?

I say different women peak at different ages. Brooke Shields peaked at 16 in Blue Lagoon, but a lot of women don’t hit their beauty peak until their 30s. How else do you explain MILFs?

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Science will tell you that they are exceptions, so it’s clearly not the way to bet. Nothing in nature or society functions according to its exceptions.

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cue rapidly-expiring spinster chorus:

“but what about halle berry?”
“but men have a biological clock too!”
“but some men love older women!”
“but i read a story about an italian grandmother who gave birth to science-assisted quadruplets!”

the
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why do people, especially women, have so much trouble with this simple concept?

jo, helen mirren looks good… for 60. this does not mean she is still fuckable by the standards of nearly every man with options.

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I agree with most of what you’re saying….

However, the need for many women, and men, to slut themselves out stems from watching others do the same thing in highschool and college. As a society we want what we can’t have so once we see how easy it is for others we convince ourselves we can do it as well. For men like me, I wasted some prime years in Highschool and College being a Beta and I know a number of women who feel the same way by wasting time in a meaningless relationship. Now I’m doing it right and having a blast which is great for me as a guy….but what about the women who are finally having some fun?

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Who cares? They made their choice. Fuck ’em…literally.

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must….find….future…husband…now!

All kidding aside, thank you for scaring the shit of me with this. I don’t want to die a spinster, but I don’t think I’m ready to get married just yet.
I agree with you on the clubs/bars/alcohol part. Relationships started in that environment are most likely doomed to fail.

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Men can afford to wait longer because there’s no social stigma on men marrying younger women. I could date a 23-year-old as a 23-year-old, or I could date one as a 35-year-old. In fact, one of my girlfriend’s friends is 19 and just got engaged to a 35-year-old. This guy is probably a creepy loser, but he got 16 more years of freedom than she will.

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Maybe he’s smart and has game.

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Some valid points, but you’re leaving Betas out of the equation! If a moderately good looking, somewhat intellectually stimulating woman really wants to get married at a certain point, I guarantee you she could find some whiny Beta to marry her and get her knocked up within a year. Don’t underestimate the persuasive powers of a woman with a loud biological clock ticking.

Isn’t the whole ‘institution’ of marriage outdated and pointless these days? Back in the day it totally made sense, as it was a contract made to ensure wealth or security, but these days it’s just obsolete.

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I have three pieces of advice for women who donโ€™t want to end up as a spinster. First, use high school and college as a period to work on your game and fuck around. Find out what men like and improve yourself to be the type of woman that men like. Whether this includes getting rid of your neediness and drama or growing out your hair, figure it out before you start your career. If you are not sure where to start, copy the girls who seem to get all the guys.

That is the worst piece of advice ever. I hope no high school aged girls read this.
Girls that age should concentrate on finding out what they want in life. Not everyone wants marriage, a family, etc.

I think the only think I agreed with you on in this post was to not go to bars/ clubs to try to find someone to date. All people want there is an easy fuck; not a relationship.
Ok, some do but how often do you run into that sort of person at those types of places?

Also, less and less people are following the “go to college right after high school” thing. I probably won’t have my bachelors until I’m close to 30.

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I have to agree with Genevieve. This whole thing is just shit, minus the part about meeting people in a club. Which I’m sure was a part of your point, what with the whole liking to stir up controversy thing that you have going. Either that or your life must be a sad, barren place. No wonder all the guys here complain about the girls they date being boring. You guys all seem to think that girls should be Stepford wives, and then you complain that girls have no personalities.

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This made me laugh out loud.

Oddly enough, it reminded me of the scene in “Say Anything” when John Cusack is at the Sip and Go (you know the scene.. it precedes the “I gave her my heart, she gave me a pen”).. All his boys are giving him advice on women.. to which he replies “If you all know so much about women then tell me why are sitting in the parking lot of a Sip and Go on a Friday night”… By choice man.. By choice!

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Just FYI I think the phrase is “Je ne sais quoi”, literally, “I do not know what”.

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Woo, my spinsterness is in overdrive today.. I actually have two comments!

I actually sent it to a coworker (orthodox Jewish girl) who I thought would totally be keen on this. As she is 22 and is desperately seeking her husband. Orthodox Jewish girls get married by 19/20 – they apparently know what’s up (all this time I thought it was the most oppressive form of my religion)! They also cover their hair (only the husband gets to see the real hair), do not wear pants (only long ass skirts), do not wear short sleeves, do not show their collar bone because it is deemed “too sexual”. The only bummer is that they don’t have sex (kiss or touch) until they are married… (well, I guess if you marry at 19 – who cares.. it’s worth the wait!)

I’d rather be a spinster.

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A very unsentimental analysis of an almost inherently sentimental undertaking.

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Nice post, Roosh. Kinda dovetails with a Sex in the City rerun I saw last nite which had feminist Miranda freaked out she’d die alone and get eaten by her cat.

But I take issue with this:
“She finds new meaning through her career and the massive amounts of subsequent disposable income…”

I’ve found most single women spend and don’t save because they think Mr. Right will eventually come along and they’ll cash out. They wind up in more debt by age 40 than men because they spend more (80 percent of all purchases in the US are made by women). I wish I had earmarked one of those ridiculously feminist-minded articles I had seen in the most, titled something like “debt hits women the hardest!”

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we shall discuss tete-a-tete.

girls, you know you hate it, but he’s kinda right. except for a few things:
a woman has a lot of sexy if she is confident (not in an arrogant way).
being that girl who is obviously seeking a husband is not sexy.
also, a true love can make you soooo happy, why wouldn’t that be the drug we all search for all the time?

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To all the girls who are overlooking Roosh’s advice about being sexy:

You need to drop the feminist attitude and act more like WOMEN, not men. That is the first step to being sexy. I’m not saying you have to stop wearing pants ands start wearing dresses on a daily basis, but you have to take a hard look at your own attitude and how you behave as ladies. Are you meeting, attracting, and dating the men YOU want? or have you been complaining to your girlfriends about the losers you usually go out with? If its the latter, then fix your attitude and start acting like WOMEN and LET men be men.

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Seems like the battle lines are being drawn along gender lines. Seriously though, many women do not want to admit that their chief assets are their youth and beauty. Yet this is the way it has been throughout recorded history.

Likewise, freedom is a wonderful thing, but don’t believe the lie that Feminism continues to tell women — “you can have it all.” The truth is that you can’t have the full and complete career of a man, while at the same time have the full and complete family life of a woman.

“Girls that age should concentrate on finding out what they want in life. Not everyone wants marriage, a family, etc.” — Genevieve

True, but even girls who haven’t decided whether they want a husband and kids already know that they want to experience drama and excitement. This is especially the case if they were under the watchful eyes of mommy and daddy until they went off to college. Roosh is simply recommending that women get their need for drama and excitement out of their systems before they waste all of their prime years on bad boys and players.

“No wonder all the guys here complain about the girls they date being boring. You guys all seem to think that girls should be Stepford wives, and then you complain that girls have no personalities.” — Rebecca

This is because many women are boring, or worse, have unreasonable expectations. Such women think they can give an all-you-can-eat buffet to bad boys and players for 8-10 years, then stick some nice guy with the dinner check when they hit their late-20s. Any woman who lives her life like this has absolutely no right to complain that she can’t find a good man to marry her. She made her bed, and now has to lie in it. Additionally, most men don’t want Stepford wives, but rather want, as Terps pointed out, women who want to be women. Such men don’t want to spend their days and nights competing over who can be more of a man. If you want to be a man’s wife and mother to his children, then learn to act like one.

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Amen! This! ^^^

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You need to drop the feminist attitude and act more like WOMEN, not men. That is the first step to being sexy.
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You bringing sexy back?????

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You are absolutely correct. I have a friend who is 23 and I have been telling her to stop dicking around and figure it out. Not necessarily for the reasons you stated but because women are losing their fertility earlier and earlier.

When you pump Happy Meals into 4 and 5 year old girls, all the growth hormone in those cheeseburgers makes them hit menses at 10 years old. Hit menses at 10 run out of eggs by the time you are 32. Hurry up girls, fuck these loser dudes (not literally) and fast track to the baby track.

Great post.

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“Such women think they can give an all-you-can-eat buffet to bad boys and players for 8-10 years, then stick some nice guy with the dinner check when they hit their late-20s.”

Excellent quote, Jay! However as an older guy, I need to point out they’re sticking the guys with the dinner check at 39 not 29 these days. Then they expect kids as well. WTF? There’s something like a 1 in 25 chance of Down’s Syndrome when a women hits 40 and conceives. But the media does not mention this much.

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Because Grrrrrl Power!

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Jay “This is because many women are boring, or worse, have unreasonable expectations.”

And men don’t? You’re stating it right here. You want women to be eternally beautiful, give up their life and career to marry young in order to “snag” a man early on. Forget about having kids, because kids ruin our bodies.

Roosh does make some excellent points about the mistakes some women make while searching for a guy, but it doesn’t mean that we should become cookie cutter versions of each other. To each his own.

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Have them young and your body snaps back with a little work. Not my words, my wife’s.

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Jo says “Forget about having kids, because kids ruin our bodies.”

I sincerely hope you don’t really believe that. In my experience, nothing could be further from the truth. I’ve met and dated quite a few women who have had kids and still have great bodies. It’s because they take care of themselves – always – and never letting themselves go, so to speak. You could have 3 kids of your own and still be thin and sexy if you take care of yourself, exercise regularly, eat healthy, and you will want to do this to look good for your man if you love him and he loves you.

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Terps, I know that. I was exaggerating for the purposes of what I assumed the guys here would say.

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gatsby:
“many women do not want to admit that their chief assets are their youth and beauty.”

true.
this is because they fear judgement. especially judgement of those things about themselves they can’t change.

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Yes, that French phrase would be “Je ne sais quoi.” “Je ne sais pas” means “I don’t know.” As in, “Je ne sais pas what the fuck I am talking about.”

There’s nothing original here- for the idea about women being either virgins or whores, try Catholicism. Despite promoting himself as someone giving advice about the “modern” dating scene, Roosh is awfully conservative.

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That’s a problem? It makes sense given his Islamic background. Media scare tactics aside, not eveything single thing about Islam is toxic.

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I’m not saying you are wrong, it is just really clear that you have no idea what it is like to be a woman. It must be nice to be a man in your world, where women have all these things to worry about and guys just worry about pussy.

And Gatsby, are not youth and beauty ALWAYS assets, to everyone?
Beautiful is just what people call interesting women, throughout history. Beauty is inherently feminine. Cleopatra, for example, was not really a great beauty but she was smart, cunning and interesting. People try to downplay her significance by putting her in the “seductress” category, but the truth is that the men she influenced could have had any woman they wanted.

The “full and complete career of a man” is going extinct. The women, the natural multitaskers, will become increasingly successful as business moves toward work/life integration and technology now makes it possible to telecommute. Women need to make their own oppurtunities and luckily the world is unfolding in a way that increasingly allows that.

O wait, but then what will all you men do if you no longer have things like money and power to hang over womens heads?

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Do you really believe all the bullshit you just spouted?

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“Pussy can pull a freight train.” — George Pelecanos

The power of vagina is so underestimated by the very people who have them.

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Who’s underestimating pussy?

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This entire argument could have come verbatim from my father’s mouth. When I lived at home, he would come into the bathroom as I was blowdrying my hair and ask, “where are you going tonight?” “Out,” I would say. Then he’d give me a speech that subtly told me I wouldn’t find a husband at a bar.
He always urges me to go and meet quality men, respect myself and not settle for less, and also have a career that makes money. Careers and families do not ever have to be mutually exclusive.
But this is such a small part of the story, just the tip of the iceberg of the difficulty of women’s lives. After my dad’s speeches, my mom pulls me aside and gives me the real deal. The real deal is too sad to even write here.
Bunifah I’m with you.

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The modern dating scene is a WASTELAND…at least here in Vegas! Not only are women judged on their physical appearance, but thanks to the internet porn sites and strip clubs…guys now except a gal to know more tricks in bed than a rodeo clown! Anal, threesomes involving a second woman, using a variety of whips, chains, and/or various vibrating devices, posing naked for photographs that a prospective beau …”promises that only he will view these & not show them to anyone else….” are just some examples of what is expected for women these days.

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At least spinsters can hang on to their self-respect!

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You can’t hold and rock self respect.
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I love how women deny the very fact that they want stability, marriage and love by 30.

There is something magical about that age where a women says “oh shit.”

They hit that age and if they aren’t married, been close to married — or in the ball park of being married….they freak.

They will deny it, but its true.

If you check any internet dating site.. Run a search for women from 20-30 and from 30-40.

YOur 30-40 search will result in almost triple the results.

hilarious.

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Or if they were married once with no kids.

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: How do you explain someone like Helen Mirren then, who is into her 60s and still looks pretty hot?

It is simple – as you fuck older women, you know that the fact she looks hot in closes does not mean you’d fuck her when she strips.

Not to mention it is easy to look “hot” in US – basically if a girl is not overweight, and wears a short skirt, she is considered hot. This criteria became useless here.

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: If a moderately good looking, somewhat intellectually stimulating woman really wants to get married at a certain point, I guarantee you she could find some whiny Beta to marry her and get her knocked up within a year.

As far as I see it doesn’t work in US – even though it supposed to. The reason is probably that such a woman has a lot of “girl friends”, who constantly tell her that she deserves the best, and should not settle on anything less than Arnold Shwartznegger.

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: If you check any internet dating site.. Run a search for women from 20-30 and from 30-40.

This is expectable. Most people are not looking for _relationship_ in 20-30. And those who do, have enough people around to choose, and do not need to go to a dating site. I’d even go further and say that if a person in his/her 20th posts ads on dating site, he/she has really serious communication problem.

: YOur 30-40 search will result in almost triple the results.

And if you look on 40-50, you’ll find even more – and in most cases they dramatically lower their searching criteria.

Remember how the women requirements for men change with ages?

All she wants from a man is that he should be:

At 18 – Tall, Dark & Handsome.

At 22 – Tall, Dark, Handsome with Money and Big Dick

At 27 – Tall, Dark, Handsome with Money, Brains and Big Dick.

At 35 – A man with Money & Brains & Big Dick.

At 40 – A man with Money or Brains or Big Dick.

At 50 – A man with Hair

At 60 – A man

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What will I do if I no longer have things like money and power to hang over womens heads? Hopefully I will be able to mooch off of a woman. That’s pretty much my best-case scenario as it is anyway.

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“O wait, but then what will all you men do if you no longer have things like money and power to hang over womens heads?”

Only a woman could be so self-deluded as to make a statement like this. It’s women who have made money and power the main thing they judge men by. Most men would prefer to sip bneer and be lazy, but to get pussy you gotta go out there and earn that Mercedes and big house.

When powerful female executives decide they can marry the mail clerk (en masse) that’s the day money and power won’t matter.

When the cheerleaders go for the science dweeb instead of the footballer, that’s the day money and power won’t matter.

Bitches set up the game that made power and money important, not men. Now they claim we “hang it over their heads.”

Marry the fucking Burger King guy if you don’t want money and power. I dare you to do that.

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I see “bitches” set up this system. How could I have been so blind! WE are the ones who want to make .70 on the dollar, just so then we could feel justified about judging men by their money and power. All of this, on both sides, operates under a scarcity principle that there isn’t enough money/quality women or men to go around. That’s lazy.
And wouldn’t I just be deluded and not “self-deluded”?
And are we talking about powerful executive women or women in general? Typically I didn’t think powerful men went after equally powerful women.

I think men set up the game (don’t they set up all games?) because if a woman focuses on things aquired externally (money/power) then she wont notice that he’s emotionally and intuitively inferior to her.

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loofah:
“WE are the ones who want to make .70 on the dollar”

this is a myth. once you control for the occupation choice differential between the sexes the wage gap virtually disappears.
feminist dogma doesn’t have much of a leg to stand on anymore.
kinda like religion. of which the two are eerily similar.
heh.

“I think men set up the game”

don’t hate the playa…
dba is basically correct. women AND men are the way we are because that is what the opposite sex all through the course of human and pre-human history expressed in mate choice. if women were spreading their legs for slump-shouldered spotted-assed pasty caved-chested anime fanboys then the world would be full of these types of guys complaining how they have to beat the pussy off with a stick.

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If you’re beautiful

you don’t have to worry

Be beautiful

live with that certain something

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: Bitches set up the game that made power and money important, not men. Now they claim we โ€œhang it over their heads.โ€

It’s easy – don’t follow bitches game, and they will die alone. No genes saves – one bitch less.

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Irina — please post the real deal, according to your mom. I am very interested in hearing what she had to say.

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Eastern European, you are creeping me out.

Something to think about.

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Roissy is right, women don’t make 70 cents on the dollar. That’s a myth used by feminists to create dissention and garner votes for female candidates or support whatever the cause du jour is.

However, when a man and woman get hired at WalMart, remember it’s the guy that does the dirty work and lifts the heavy stuff putting him at risk. The women get to stand around and smile. Hence higher pay for these kind of jobs for men — and these jobs account for much of the economy.

On a different note… Marilyn Vos Savant once wondered if women make 70 cents to a man’s dollar, why do companies hire men at all? Think about that. Companies are in the business of making money. Why would they WANT to pay more when they don’t have to??

Here’s a link to why the wage gap is a feminist myth; there are many more: http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/04/23/gender-feminist-wage-gap-myth-appears-to-be-growing-legs-part-ii/

I’m convinced most American have an entitlement complex. They possess over 50 percent of the wealth yet whine they don’t have enough. They complain about job conditions when men account for 90 percent of all workplace injuries. And they whine about their “lack” of health care when they out live men by SEVEN YEARS!!!

If anyone has a right to whine in this society, it’s black men, who do in fact get paid less, injured on the job more, murdered at a higher rate and have the shortest life expectancy!!

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men news daily, really? thats your proof? anyway lets drop the 70 cent on the dollar thing, since you feel it’s disputable.
Every menial job I’ve ever done required that i do just as much unpleasant work as men, i just cant help that i physically cannot left over a certain weight. You wouldn’t hold it against a guy who was just weak, but that wouldn’t happen since men are socialized to take stupid risks in order to be macho. Maybe thats why men get injured on the job as well, they don’t know when to say when.

and we outlive you because we take better care of ourselves, its not our fault you cant eat a vegetable once in a while.

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Adeendum: MEN, not women are the mosty likely to experience violence and die from that. So the link that Bunifah put out there about “violence against women” is yet another example of feminist entitlement whining.

Falsehoods like this got us the Violence Against Women Act, which CAUSED the Duke fiasco, because it makes it unlawful to see if a woman who cried rape is lying. Read about it here: http://hatemalepost.blogspot.com/

For a good post about why women’s magazines reflect women’s self-interests, go here: http://eternalbachelor.blogspot.com/

And I’m wondering why the feminist never bother to thank all the men who invented all the zillions of modern conveniences that make women’s lives easier. They no longer die during childbirth, for example. The modern world is a safe, orderly place compared to 100 years ago and men are entirely to thank for establishing all society’s inventions and laws. As Camille Paglia said, if women ran the world, we’d all be living in huts.

WE NOW LIVE IN A POST-INTERNET SOCIETY AND FEMINISTS CANNOT GET AWAY WITH THEIR LIES BECAUSE MEN NOW HAVE A WAY TO COMMUNICATE AND CHECK DATA BEYOND THE BIASED MEDIA. It’s the Internet that is causing feminism to die, because men now have instant access to stats that were hidden years back. The old media allowed feminism to flourish and the internet is putting it in its grave.

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Response to Bunifah’s last post:

I propose we have a National Men’s Day, where women are forced to live for a day without any inventions by men. No running water. No electricity. No cars!! No martinis.

And here is Steve Chapman from the Chicago Tribune in the fake wage gap. Sorry Men’s News Daily is apparently not good enough for you; meanwhile zillions of women get their “news” from Oprah:
http://www.reason.com/news/show/119920.html

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an original thinker:
“men are socialized to take stupid risks in order to be macho.”

am i socialized to spring a chub when i see a hot chick?
just asking. i really am curious. maybe all these years the messages i’ve been getting from TV were telling me to get aroused? hmm, i never chubbed out for girls before puberty, tho. maybe TV takes 12 years to work its socialization magic? i’m sure the educational-parental-playground-toymakers-searsunderwearcatalog-industrial complex had something to do with instigating my chubbies.
those bastards! i have seen the light.
where do i sign up for the deprogramming?

“its not our fault you cant eat a vegetable once in a while.”

does tossing salads count?

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I am tired of women saying how tough it is for them. It is tough for both of us. Life is tough so just get over it. The minute I hear bunifah incinuating that women have it tougher than men is the moment you lost all credibility with me.

Women often make less because they take off time to raise children. But guess what- it’s the same story for the guy who wants to work less to spend time with his kids, but he’s gotta balance it out to make sure the he’s not taking off TOO much time so he can keep things afloat financially until mom can get back to work.

Honestly, I am all for equal rights and feminism. I am an enormously 21st century male: want me to stay home and raise the kids? No prob babes– you go make the big dough, it’s no skin off my back, but then you’ll need to buy me the car and not get pissed off if I want to go play golf on a sunny morning while you are stuck in the office.

My mom is a stay at home mom but still by all accounts a feminist of the 60s era. Her response to the recent developments ala sex and the city is that too many PEOPLE (NOT JUST WOMEN) nowadays want it all without sacrifices. We are so far removed now from a time of depression that most people expect so much. They EXPECT it. I see this creep up all the time. In men it is the expectation that you will get the super skinny model wife who will pop out babies, not complain, not give you a hard time if you don’t make enough and aren’t ambitiou and don’t provide, will let you ask for a three way, and let you go out with the guys whenever you want– which is totally unrealistic. It’s the same with women: they want a career, but they also want babies, and they want a husband who will respect all this without being domaninant but also will make a mint so that mommy can spend her money on purses and convertibles all while living in a massive home in the right suburb. Guess what– it ain’t happening for either of you!!!

I had a discussion with another person in my profession the other day where he said, “Isn’t a compromise when both parties agree on what they want?” My response: “No. A compromise is when neither party gets exactly what they want.”

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Oh Roosh.

I couldn’t agree with you more. You’re MOSTLY right.

Except for the fact that I’ve been there, done that.

Played around when I was younger, then straightened out for a bit.. Got married, because, well, a “nice” guy who wasn’t an asshole came along. Except we were all wrong for each other. Two “nice” people don’t exactly mean that it’s the right thing. Oops, my bad.

I think in general you’re right, but when you marry a guy that five years later find out he “might” be gay (he’s “confused”), it’s just kind of SUCKS.

But yeah, I followed that path you just laid out.