Is The Main Reason I’m In South America Because Of Girls?

A tough question is when people ask me why I’m in South America. The answer I feel most comfortable with is a three page manifesto, but is it really that complicated?

While the South American way of life in different than in America, my way of life doesn’t change much from country to country…

11am: Rise and shine
2pm: Coffee shop to sit in front of laptop for several hours
7pm: Gym, grocery store visit, or various chores
9pm: Cook dinner then jerk around on internet, watch movies, or go out

This is the routine that keeps me productive and happy no matter where I’m at. It’s not glamorous but it fits me well, and only a couple parts of it will change in foreign countries. They are:

1. Language. Obviously there are communication issues but to me that’s a fun challenge that exercises my brain. Neutral effect.

2. Money. I experience considerable cost savings by living in South America where I have to work much less for a lifestyle of leisure and chasing tail. Positive effect.

3. Family. Our lives are finite and every month I don’t spend with them is another month that is basically gone forever, so that does bother me a bit. Negative effect.

4. Coffee shops. In South America you can’t really spend four hours after only buying a cup of tea. So I look for corporate places like McCafe and Starbucks where the staff doesn’t care. (In Rio the mall in Leblon has comfortable sofas with free internet.) Neutral effect.

5. Grocery stores. They do not have the incredible selection that American stores have. The grocery store nearest me doesn’t have broccoli, cauliflower, lemons, and any kind of berry, for example. Negative effect, but honestly my life isn’t too different if I can’t eat broccoli and strawberries.

6. Going out. The point of going out is to bond with other guys, drink, and get laid. The guys I meet here are more like short-term buddies than the deeper friendships I have at home; the alcohol is more substandard (caipirinha with turpentine cachaça anyone?); and of course the girls are from a different planet.

Is my life different if I’m actively spending time with a South American girl that treats me like a king and is hyper-feminized? Yes, I believe so.

Recently I was at a bar with my Danish roommate and there were three Australian girls around us getting aggressively gamed by four Brazilian guys. During that time they kept looking over. I had a hunch that they wanted us to “save” them.

Next thing we know the girls moved right beside us to where one of them was brushing against my arm.

“Looks like you guys have a fan club,” I said, without any emotion.

“Oh my god these guys won’t leave us alone!”

“Well if you keep talking to them then they’re going to think you like them.” I found it hard to believe that they didn’t understand this simple concept.

“Can you help rid of them for us?”

“You seem like big girls I think you can do it.”

Then the other one looked at me and said, “Don’t be such a big jerk!”

This very brief exchange showed issues that I don’t experience with South American women. First, they’re attention whores that are stringing along other guys just for kicks. Fights between horny drunk guys usually start because of girls like these. Second, they’re testing me to see if I’ll save them within only 15 seconds of talking to them. And third, they’re displaying a snappy attitude that is more suited for debating than romance. Don’t test me or ask me for premature favors and then get an attitude when I don’t bend over backwards for you. These are things I don’t want to deal with.

I looked at the most aggressive of the Brazilian guys and said, “Ela gosta de você… MUITO” while pointing to the girl who told me to stop being a jerk. That roughly means, “She likes you… A LOT.” Sure enough his eyes opened wide and he pursued with renewed vigor that made me quite pleased.

When I get homesick all I have to do are two things.

The first is open my budget spreadsheet to see how much money I’m not spending. The second is talk to Western women. And I’m not kidding—when I get homesick I just hit on gringas at the bar. I zero in on their pasty, flawed skin, their masculine attitudes, their slovenly appearance, their self-entitlement, and I swear to god I’m energized for a month or two before homesick thoughts cross my mind again.

I dislike American women and I can’t live very comfortably Stateside working only 2-3 hours a day. Therefore I’m in South America because of money and women.

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The Truth
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I recently got back from Japan. After seeing (and being with) the feminine women there, I can’t even look at a Western woman without a slight disdain. There is really only one thing that they are good for.

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what about visas? how do you handle legal paper matters there? what about health insurance?

another question, do you have other internet businesses? how about opening an outsource small internet development firm in latin america?

If you moved to miami or san diego would that be a bit equivalent to living in latin america?

best!

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dont try business there, belive me I’m brazilian and probably they want steal your money.

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I lived in Asia for a while and had a similar lifestyle and experiences. It was fun and the girls were quite different. Unfortunately I made the mistake of coming back to the US to actually use what I had studied. Oops.

Time to go try another country and get back to girls who are actually girls.

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miami and san diego are UBER expensive. besides, the hyper feminine there is just big tits and expensive clothes to wear while waiting in line for a club in dtown san diego or south beach where you pay 40 to get in…blaise.

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“If you moved to miami or san diego would that be a bit equivalent to living in latin america?”

San Diego, contrary to popular belief is really not all that “latin”. In fact, its more Ugg boots, sweat pants and flip flops.

Miami Beach is very latin, but nightlife is expensive.

It is amazing, in Cartagena, the only really unattractive girls I have seen are American girls. Thank goodness there are not too many.

Roosh,

On the “Grocery stores” you are missing the point that there are tons of tropical fruits that are basically unavailable in the us.

– MPM

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Good answer

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Funny you should say that. I have spent the last week in Oaxaca and Chiapas in Mexico.

Two of the greatest regions of natural beauty in Mexico. However, the women are very indigionous looking and totally unattractive.

So basically you are left only to flirt with tourist chicks. I eneded up last night chatting with two girls who approached me in a bar. Both English.

Nothing special looking but border line doable looks wise. After talking with them for a while and experiencing their negative and cynical attitude which is, for them, the best they can do in terms of flirting with me. I gave myself a mental slap in the face and asked myself what the fuck was I even thinking about.

I said a polite goodbye, walked away and put them in my rear view mirror.

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Roosh how do you make money? Is it mainly through sales of your books?

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Actually I think you are in SA as a sort of spiritual mission to find yourself and your purpose in life. Something thats hard to do if you have to work 40 plus hours a week and also have a social life!

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“I’m in South America because of money and women”

Money and Women. That is my answer to just about every deep philosophical question that people ask me.

Meaning of life? My passion? Why i do what i do? Purpose? Etc.

I just say “Money and Women”

nice and simple.

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Roosh can get American women but South American women treat him like a king; I can’t get American women and South American women treat me like I think an American woman would treat a beta schlub, complaining about various aspects of my behavior and demanding that I fix them. So I guess it’s a relative thing. I need more game for the South Americans.

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When are you going to open your travel consulting business?

You could charge at least $50 an hour to consult with guys on trips, or permanent relocation. I would absolutely pay you more than $50 an hour for advice on what to see. I’d offer, say, a flat rate of $250-500 for when I take my big trip next year.

Not huge money, but you’d be able to work from the coffee shop.

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I like MIke’s idea. Fo sho.

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I like Mike’s idea too. excellent suggestion. It can even have a game flavour to it.

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My girlfriend is an american girl thats about an 8-8.5 on a legit scale. If she was 6 inches taller, and took care of herself to the point that she was 19 year old model rock hard, then she could be a 9. No complaints in the looks department. She dresses ultra feminine in that she never goes out without high heels, makeup, and usually something a bit short on. She even cooks like a champ. Men ogle her wherever we go, catcall from cars, and try to talk to her when we’re together. No worries there, I just watch with amusement.

While fun to hang out with, and party with, the femininity, in terms of her personality, is lacking.

Its a battle to stay the dominant in the relationship. A battle, not in the sense that I have trouble with it, but that she’s constantly challenging and testing me in that regard. I think she’s learned some bad habits from dating a beta man or three. She’s learning though.. We’ll see if she can even put up with not being the dominant one in the relationship for any period of time, before she decides that she needs someone to dominate. The whole dominance battle/lack of femininity is boring me, making me more emotionally distant and therefore making her unhappy. I don’t even think she knows the effect that it has on me or the relationship. She likes me, but I won’t be with her forever because I’d be miserable after a short while.

She’s also got an anger issue or two, and frequently gets an agro tone with other females like waitresses, etc… Nothing too serious, but its a turnoff. She’s just an ultra americanized inner city girl. At least she’s 10x better than the most of the sexless pasty suburban insecure clueless girls around here. And she’s a freak in the sack. So, its tough to break up with her.

While a lot of things about her kind of suck, its hard to find an amreican girl, over 25, that isn’t much much worse.

Looks don’t make up for the lack of femininity. Its true that for every pretty girl, there’s a guy whos tired of banging her. Its the ultra feminine, non-nagging personality type that will keep you happy in the end.

I cant wait to finish my project and hop off to S.A.

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Roosh is my hero.

I want to hang out in coffee shops and pick up chicks all day.

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“I want to hang out in coffee shops and pick up chicks all day.”

Like one Ese in East Los once told me, “Don’t just think about it holmes, Do It!”

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I meet the master yesterday I can assure you that he is the real deal.. and would be worth forking the cash if he opened a travelconsulting service..

Marcos
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Roosh
where the heck are you shopping?
No lemons or cauliflower?
Any average store in Brazil has as much Food selection as Safeway. Try Pao de Acucar for goodness sake.

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Roosh, you make an excellent point about the hyper-masculinized, self-entitled American women, but WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THIS?!

We can’t all call it quits on American women and fly to better pastures long-term (done it short-term but was forced to come back), so we’re often stuck here dealing with it. But while we’re dealing with it, us enlightened souls might also do something about it, no? Perhaps it can be better for my future 19 sons, or my 117 grandsons?
Perhaps we can re-masculanize and re-feminize the culture, one bang at a time?

Roosh, How about a blog post??

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Roosh joon, the other day someone asked me what does “kos khol” means. khosh baash!

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I’ve lived in Saigon, Vietnam for over three years now. It’s heaven for a single man. The girls here are soft and feminine, and behave in a feminine way. They’re hot too. I was shocked the first time I got some food with a girl and she took care of serving me. Women are women here, and men are men. It’s refreshing and awesome.

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“Pack your bags and get the hell out.”

thinking about it. finger’s on the trigger.

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Forgot to add this anecdote.

A guy I know moved here from NYC a few months ago to join his cousin’s consulting business. Before he came, his cousin asked him to show a couple Vietnamese girls (friends of the cousin) around while they visited NYC. Said guy and his American girlfriend took the girls out on the town. The Vietnamese girls observed said guy and his girlfriend all night.

After the girls returned to Saigon they promptly delivered their verdict to the cousin: “American girls have no clue how to take care of their man.”

Says it all right there.

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btw, I like your twitter updates.

Always some useful shit in there.

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Met Roosh in Leblon shopping Rio. This guy nows is business. Roosh hit up Eastern Europe.
I´m in Santa Cruz do Sul. This german/polish chicks with brazilian asses are off the hook.

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I feel like I should debunk a few myths that permeate this website.

-American culture spreads far. Do not expect to fully get away from it. I would recommend going to a smaller city (300,000) rather than a bustling metropolis. You will have fewer options and less accommodations though.
-Do not expect you to find a 9 who is sweet, cooks, cleans, fucks well, is ultra-feminine, and whatever else you want in a woman unless you are a stud. Women on the whole in South American countries like Argentina are better than the average American women but do not get carried away. I feel like many guys think that they will go to South America and have gorgeous women wanting to suck their dick the second they get off the plane.
-If you can’t get laid here, you can’t get laid there unless you want it to come with a receipt.
-Argentine women smoke.
-Know the difference between a place like Peru and a place like Chile.
-Expect normal things to be harder, be prepared for the internet to randomly not work, and be prepared to constantly “prove” you know your shit to not get ripped off.
-Dress well.
-Do a test run for a few weeks before going abroad for 6 months.

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One more thing:
-Do not underestimate how hard it is to game in a foreign language and culture.

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Roosh love the articles and your book!!! good on you telling that aussie to take care of her own business… You were the alpha, didn’t give a shit..
No matter what, if a chick digs you she will never inconvenience you.. and in this case, she did.. Good on you bro!

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@azuzuro

“After the girls returned to Saigon they promptly delivered their verdict to the cousin: ‘American girls have no clue how to take care of their man.'”

The thing is, even the phrase “taking care of their man” would be considered sexist and offensive in America.

My uncle works as a merchant marine and his base of operation is Thailand. He frequently rails on American women and swore them off long ago. He told me that once I experience Thai women, I’ll never want an American woman again and that Thai women know how to let the man be the man. I used to think this was all crazy talk by a guy who just couldn’t cut it in the U.S. but now I’m thinking perhaps he wasn’t so crazy after all.

Okay, so the culture of feminism has ruined western women. Thing is, I don’t even have anything against feminism in the strict sense of the word. Women should have the same rights as men, make equal pay and all that good stuff. Problem is when feminism began to seep into the cultural and relationship sphere. Feminism these days is about de-feminization of women and emasculation of men more than it is about equal rights. This culture or gender neutrality they aspire to where the only difference between men and women is their sex organs is the road to hell. Where a “pregnant man” can be paraded across the screen on Oprah while everyone cheers this as progress instead of putting this freak in a circus where “he” belongs.

So what to do about any of this? I don’t know. Either look for women who maintain their femininity in the U.S. or look abroad. Moving overseas just isn’t a viable option for everyone. I’ll tell you one thing, I’m sick of women who know nothing about cooking. What the hell did they ever learn from their mothers?

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While living abroad does sound like fun and I look forward to doing it sometime soon, I know for a fact, I wouldn’t be able to stay too long in a place where most people don’t speak English. I mean, yeah, I could learn another language, but to some extent that ship has already sailed – most people that are fluent in languages learn them as kids, it’s a lot harder to learn a second language as an adult, and I’m not sure I’m willing to put forth the effort. Living in a country where most people only speak a different language than you and at best your only mildly conversational at the native language would leave so much to be desired for me that I definitely couldn’t live there for too long at all.

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Roosh, I understand what you are saying about health insurance, but health care can still be expensive man. I work in this field. I’d still say that a basic plan for when the shit hits the fan is still more than worth it.

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@Willy Wonka:

It’s a common myth that learning a foreign language is harder as an adult, as proven in studies. In fact, the adult learner can learn a new language far faster and easier than a child because they already have a language structure and world understanding to hang the new language on. (Try explaining ‘nuclear power’ to a six year old. An adult just needs the new word for it.) It just SEEMS harder, because as an adult you’re making a conscious effort to learn and you have adult responsibilities to deal with. It only seems like a child has it easier because they are absorbing language quickly anyways as they’re growing up, but often children who learn two languages struggle throughout childhood to differentiate between the two and with grammar.

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Roosh, I agree with you. I am an expat in Central America and I have never been that happy.

American women suck.

“Its the ultra feminine, non-nagging personality type that will keep you happy in the end.”

Hey, this sound like my girlfriend. Furthermore, she lets me bang other girls as long as I don’t say it overtly.

Vincent Ignatius
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Reading about your travels has given me the itch to spend a month in Central America. Now to see if I can sell the idea to my advisor.

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“American culture spreads far. Do not expect to fully get away from it”

Yep… look at the pic I just took today in Cali, Colombia:

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/231/img1692b.jpg

Women are becoming Americanized very fast all around the world due mainly to TV.

“that guy” you’re right in almost everything you say and I agree it’s hard to be able to game well in a foreign language (Roosh seems to game mainly in English in Brazil) and it’s also hard to learn a foreing language as an adult in order to be good enough to crack jokes and shit…

I mean game for guys is a lot about words and for women much more about looks…

I would just not go to a 300’000 inhabitants town. I think it’s too small for pick-up. You’d better go to a big town with few tourists (especially sex tourists)

Vincent Ignatius
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Women are becoming Americanized very fast all around the world due mainly to TV.

I noticed this the last time I was in Central America. It was so disappointing; in another 20 years, women in Latin America will be just as bad as women in the US are now.

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Its official im jealous of your lifestyle. I want to live abroad so bad i can taste it.

Dan DeLa Cruz
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Hey Roosh, if I had to sum it up on my part I’d give the same answer. But I probably think you’re also enjoying the weather (you missed out on some nice blizzards), the culture, the food, and the personal growth you might not have had a chance to experience if you stayed in D.C. or in the U.S. for that matter.

To the guys worried about foreign women becoming Americanized: I agree there have been some changes in the Latin America culture due to the strong U.S. influence across Latin America but the differences are still night and day. I doubt things will get as bad as in the U.S. and even if they do (let’s hope not), it’s going to take another 50 years or so.

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I think that having a little money and living it up can go a long way in 3rd countries. Its very macho down there and girls expect you to pay for everything…I banged quite a few girls but most took me 3-5 dates and I had to make out i was staying around. I dont mind paying for girls and dont believe in the shit of “never buy a girl a drink”….not gonna by then a fucking gucci handbag though
I think saving up a bunch of cash….and living on $500 a week would be great. Have a nice pad, money to take girls out, and eat well. I think that this amount of cash would be a great level.
A decent girl would be pretty unimpressed when you took them back to your favella pad…

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I want to pack up and live like Roosh, but I didn’t make it to South America to see firsthand how fucking awesome it is until my 1L year in fucking law school. Still in as a 2L even though I hate it, but my motivation in going was to be able to get some kind of a job, work hard, save money, then relocate when I have some shit saved up. But I’m fucking impatient.

Stick to the plan or just say fuck it? I do have federal student loans, so I don’t know what I would do about those were I to leave. Wish I would have just dropped it after one semester, but I can hack law assuming I get a job. Just a pain to know I’ll be like 30+ by the time I am able to live in S. America…but perhaps I will have enough USD reserves to make it worthwhile…

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I think you are stupid, wasting time at a country where we suffer for leaving. Go to a better place for the Gods sake.

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Can anyone share some advice on relocating to South American, specifically Rio De Janeiro as an American ex-pat?