Stop Cockblocking

Me and VK were at the DC bar Marvin on a recent Friday night. If you’re wondering why we go all the time when the average age is 30, I think it’s because we’re the only guys there who have game (besides Roissy). We do alright when talent shows up.

Three cute girls were checking us out and wouldn’t stop. VK opened them and I joined in later to talk to the tallest one. Within a minute I felt something was wrong… it was like she had a rod shoved up her ass. Turns out she is going to law school. That was all I needed to know. I looked over her shoulder and saw nothing else, so it was this lawyer chick or nothing.

cockblocker.jpgI’m working on her and it’s going well. Five minutes into the conversation, in a pitiful attempt to compliment me which I’m sure took a lot of courage for her, she said, “You’re not lame.” She’s touching me and playing with her hair. I was on track, and she’s actually pretty good looking.

But then, out of nowhere, the third friend comes back from getting a drink. She looks at me, smiles, and just holds it. There it was. Instantly I think, “I want THIS one.” I didn’t care that I already put work into the lawyer chick because this other chick was just oozing warmth and I knew she was more my type. I take a break from the lawyer chick and started talking to the new girl. But we’re not even talking, just looking at each other. It was on and I was very pleased.

After a minute the lawyer chick says “girl talk.” The girls huddle up and start whispering to each other. I’m not worried—in fact I have to do guy talk often with my wingman to sort out situations. A minute later they are done and the lawyer chick says, “We’re leaving.” Then they walk away. :angry:

In Brazil I got with a girl and two hours into it I find out that she actually came with a group of friends. The friends never interrupted once. But here you have girls running around treating their friends like little kids, babysitting them and making decisions about which guys guys they should get with. Unfortunately in this passive culture it’s not common for one girl to stand up to her friend in the heat of the moment with other friends looking on. She passes on the desirable male to get approval so her already low self-esteem is not shattered.

I’m on board VK’s Stop Blocking Movement. From this point on every time I get blocked, I will go to the blocker and say, “I hope you get The Clap when you least expect it.” I know no other way to solve this problem.

I saw the lawyer chick a week later at the same bar. I poked her, she looked, and then ignored me. She won.

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One problem still- you care too much.

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The case above isn’t a direct situation of cockblocking or treating your friends like kids. It’s a reaction to bad manners on your part.

If a guy is hitting on one of my girlfriends, then abruptly ignores her in favor of another, we consider it tacky and rude. So we usually decide on a “chicks before dicks” course of action and drop the guy.

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I’m with Shannon, while cockblocks are never ok…this was a situation where the first girl was insulted you were hitting on her and then two seconds later started hitting on her friend.

The new friend probably (even if attracted to you) thought it was sleazy and no girl wants to have a guy hit on their friend right before or after them.

Makes them feel like just a notch.

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STOP BLOCKING

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She was studying to be a lawyer… that’s all you need to know. She is a lame robot, and no matter how hot she was she only deserves the attention of other Lawyers.

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I’ll step up and call absolute bullshit on that. Sorry but it’s TALKING flirting. Roosh never asked girl number one for her number or set up a date in stone or anything. It’s feeling out process. The second girl smiled and started the flirt while Roosh was talking to the first girl, so I don’t see it as Roosh being sleazy if the second girl initiated the flirt.

Do you know how many times we (including most guys) approach one group and just flirt/ mingle/ and hit on all girls at once. There have been plenty of times girls start flirting with me then by the end of the encounter she gives her number to Roosh or Roissy after moving on to talk to them. Do I get insulted, does that make them attention needing sluts? Nope it’s just that they were more attracted to them than I. I’m not going to block their chances because I was flirting with her first and they moved on to them. Let’s grow up people

Bottom line Roosh and Girl 2 where more attracted to each other. Girl one lost in the competition for attention, hated and moved the whole group. Stop all this chicks before dicks shit.

It was a cock block and it’s more fucked up than a fat chick with small titties

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Yikes VK…sorry I offended. I don’t cockblock nor do I condone it. EVER.

Roosh wrote it as though he was fully hitting on the first girl, not just flirting.

If its just flirting…sure…no problem. But he was “working on her”…I guess I need to get my PUA lingo straight before I come back to commenting.

I go away for over 6 months and get attacked on my first comment. NICE!

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Roosh you’re getting sloppy. You’re back among piranhas now – get with the program. You fucked up a few times, one by flirting with girl 2 and secondly by acknowledging girl 1 the next time you met even though she “cock blocked” you the first time. An alpha would have totally ignored her. Plus you never ever hit on a girls friend even if girl 1 says its ok – it never is and they just say that to save face. A bird in the hand …

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Now, now, kids…can’t we all play in the same sand box? Blocking is bad, acting like a douche is bad, getting ridiculously defensive about a blog post is bad.

Carry on.

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I think VK was launching at me, Kass. I’m not a cockblocker, either, I just think the term gets overused and sometimes the situation is different from how the guys perceive it.

I wasn’t there, so I only have Roosh’s description to go on. If he was “working on her” then it sounds like it was heavy one-on-one flirting. Then he abruptly dropped her in favor of her friend. Ow.

Again, I wasn’t there, but I bet Roosh would have had more success if he’d continued to talk to both girls, then gradually shifted to the second girl to avoid hurting the first one’s feelings. Transition is key.

Hell hath no cockblock like a woman scorned.

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Were you expecting a different reaction from a chick studying to be a lawyer? Seriously.

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Kassy K,

no one is “attacking” you, I just strongly disagree. All I was saying is that Girl two initiated the flirt. If it was such an awsome tight group of girls and the whole chicks before dicks thing like Shannon said that wouldn’t have happened. Flirting, talking, working on it’s all the same, it’s just a feeling out process. You move towards who you’re most attracted to.

It’s ok to disagree

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I find it amusing that anyone on this site uses the phrase “let’s grow up”, particularly on a post titled “stop cockblocking”.

Here’s a though: why don’t you all grow up and have a legitimate relationship with a WOMAN instead of pathetically spending your weekends hitting on girls in bars. Sad.

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*thought*

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Roosh you shouldn’t have dropped the first girl in favor of the second. You just chalk that up to the game as one that got away. Greed seemed to get the best of you and you lost both. if you really wanted her friend you should have friended all of them and made your move after hanging out with them a few times, making sure you’re keeping it platonic with the first girl.

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VK–VERY true, if girl 2 initiated the flirt after seeing Roosh and her friend talking/flirting/etc….then they left after “convening”–it was most likely that there was a cockblock involved. (A cockblock born of hurt but a cockblock nonetheless).

But I do agree with Shannon that not all cockblocks are created equally…sometimes its a cockblock and sometimes its really a friend coming over after she sees her friend mouthing “HELP ME” over the shoulder of the guy that won’t leave her alone.

Although this was obviously not the situation.

🙂

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It’s survival of the fittest. Also, why does every interaction have to mean anything? A hi, hello, washappening, doesn’t mean long term relationship! Its a bar, whoever your eyeing will be insight long enough until you turn to the next one.

Put it this way, you shop around for what best suits you. Sometime you’ll walk into Shop A for the freshest gear, to only find out that Shop B (next door) has it cheaper and at a better quality. You only begin your commitment to Shop B when you find no other Shop out there can give you better than what you getting there.

People get it twisted with bars/clubs and what not. It’s for entertainment, not where you should go and get heated because your girl/guy has started rapping to your “bird”. Bars/clubs are no place for long, short, extra short commitments. Have fun, relax, don’t snitch.

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I don’t think Roosh did anything wrong by talking to girl #2, especially since the interaction with girl #1 never proceeded past pleasantries stage. I do think he fucked up big time by reapproaching her the next week though. First because of how their last encounter ended and second because should never knowingly try to interact with a female lawyer.

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its pretty obvious that roosh’s “work” on the first girl caused her to have some sort of attraction towards him…..
and it was all torn to pieces when he began flirting with the second girl or vice versa. flirting with the second girl obviously caused the lawyer chick some discomfort and maybe such experiences are the reason she is so hard to open up with guys. that would also explain why she’d ignore him in the future when he poked her

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hahah roosh!

“I hope you get The Clap when you least expect it.”

I love it.

Cockblocking is annoying as hell, especially when you put in the effort to get attraction…

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hmm well I think we can all agree that cockblocking sucks, but I think that guys need to be careful to not be too obvious about the “cast a wide net” approach when talking to a group of girls– meaning hitting on every girl and seeing who will bite. I don’t think that the situation here, but guys should keep in mind that all women, no matter how jaded, are romantics at heart and want to feel that they are special. Hitting on her, her best friend, and the three girls down the bar makes it pretty clear that you are just trying to get laid and will lower your status in her eyes.

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we need to figure out a way to turn the anti-cb website into an ‘Obama is your new bicycle’-type site.

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The whole “chicks before dicks” credo is pretty amazing from an evolutionary point-of-view — the interests of unrelated women rarely overlap. They compete mostly against each other, not against guys. Middle school teasing and rumor-spreading, competing for alpha-male bankers, etc.

In some cases, it could be mutual defense — you protect me against losers, and I’ll do the same for you.

But what if the guy isn’t a loser? Then the cockblocker isn’t helping the other girl: she’s manipulating her. You’d think women would have a built-in defense against such manipulation, like “Oh bitch please, don’t be jealous just cuz he don’t like you.”

This creates a psychological arms race among women — the blockers have to develop more persuasive skills so their manipulation isn’t detected. Is it any wonder that the blocker here was a lawyer-in-training? That’s a manipulative, verbal con-artist par excellence.

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this sounds more like a cock sabotage than a cockblock. sometimes a friend will jump into a set and try to steal your attention either for her own benefit or to test your attraction for her friend, and if you fail the girls will convene for a quickie pow wow and she’ll tell her friend (your initial target) how you were flirting with her. there’s a lot of subtle psychological head games going on here, and as guys we have a hard time understanding it because our prime directive is to get laid, and our secondary directive is to help our friends get laid. for girls, their prime directive is to act as gatekeepers for their own pussy and secondarily the pussy of their friends.

btw, cockblocking decreases with age of girl. this is because the friends of a 30 year old know that her standards are lower and thus their services to block men are not needed as often. in fact, you will usually see an older woman vigorously wave away her friends if she sees them approaching for the tentative cockblock engagement.

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Actually, here’s what the “girl talk” sounded like:

Me: “Are you ready to go someplace else? I don’t see anyone that I’m all that interested in here, so I’m ready to move on. Unless you think you might like this guy?”

My friend (girl 2): “Nah, he’s OK, but I’m ready to go check out someplace else. Let’s go!”

So get over yourself.

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A thing about 30 year old women, our standards are not lower, we just know why we are in the bar/club at 30! Same reason any other person is there for! There is no need for the cockblock at 30s because we are all grown by then, we dont get in each others business when it comes to , close your ears children, DICK! The only time we give a shit about DICK, is when it is attached to a Bad Dick Report (BDR)issued by our girls to alert us about the Bad Dick you may or may not be entertaining. Standards lowered, not so much, more like, what surprises am in for tonight??? Again, bars/clubs serves only to entertain; at any age.

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often times, a girl silently call for the services of a cockblock and you may not even know it’s happening. you may see this as a jealousy maneuver, when it is in fact not. sometimes girls get stuck and may seem friendly just to be nice, but they are itching for a way out.
but other times the cockblock really is a jealous wench and is bored b.c no one is paying any attention to her.
how do guys know which one it is?

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Anon, you can’t know for sure whether it’s a cockblock or an orchestrated rescue. Women can be wily.

Instead, it’s better to get a sense of whether a woman likes you or is just being nice (we’re socialized to be nice to even guys that bore the crap out of us, to the detriment of all). If she isn’t making eye contact, looks bored, answers with a lot of “uh-huhs” or sort of looks like she has a stomachache, she’s not into you and waiting for a rescue.

Sometimes it really amazes me how often guys won’t pick up on the fact that we’re not feeling it and you’re annoying us.

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When a guy does it it IS a cock block but women don’t have cocks they have cunts. So that maneuver should be referred to as a “Cunt Block”

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The chick in the photo has a nice ass

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“Here’s a though: why don’t you all grow up and have a legitimate relationship with a WOMAN instead of pathetically spending your weekends hitting on girls in bars. Sad.”

BUT WHERE THE FUCK ARE WE SUPPOSED TO MEET THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE?

flaky women could turn up anywhere, not just at the bar

get that love where you find it!

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“When a guy does it it IS a cock block but women don’t have cocks they have cunts. So that maneuver should be referred to as a “Cunt Block””

it’s called a CUNT BUNT