The 3 Purposes Of Women

When it comes to women, nature bestowed only three roles upon them: reproductive sex, child rearing, and homemaking. A woman who engages in behaviors outside of those three roles is going against her biology and will experience suffering as a result.

Reproductive sex

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The primary function of sex is to reproduce. The secondary function of sex is to experience pleasure. Through universal abortion and birth control, we have demoted the function of sex to one solely of pleasure. Sex is now a sterile act between two individuals who are often under the influence of alcohol or drugs and who were paired based on emotional short-term reasons that often come down to entertainment or boredom.

Child rearing

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The reason that women excel in child rearing is because their brains are similar to that of a young child. For proof of this, you only need to witness an adult woman interacting with children. While a man may be stiff and awkward with the creature, a woman instantly adopts a child-like personality and voice to create a genuine bond. It’s through this bond that a woman can better sense a child’s needs and communicate with it.

Homemaking

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Women have a unique taste and aesthetic that transforms any dwelling from a functional unit to a “home.” They add comfort, warmth, and cleanliness while men tend to focus on more utilitarian and practical aspects of living. A family home that has been touched by feminine hands is one where its occupants will be more comfortable.

A woman who is engaging in sex with a multitude of partners without any concern for reproduction, and who has less interest in child rearing than in surrogate activities like working in an office, dancing in nightclubs, or playing trivia games on her electronic device, and who is unwilling or unable to make a home comfortable for her family is going against her purpose. This may remind you of women you know.

Can happiness be achieved by going against your biology?

The easiest way to answer that question is to examine the mental health of those individuals who have firmly denied their biology: homosexuals and transsexuals. Studies clearly show that these groups are the most mentally ill and suicidal out of the population (1, 2, 3, 4, 5). Denying your genetic makeup entails the highest risk of being a loon.

A woman cannot be happy or even content with life if she elects not to reproduce, raise children, or be a homemaker. Is it a coincidence that modern civilization is actively encouraging women to stray far from these three biological roles? Our current society is inverted, as those who rule over us have determined that it’s better to redirect feminine energy into something that benefits their own selfish ends.

Not only are women suffering more than in the past but men are suffering too, because they are forced to interact with broken women who deny their biology. Until we have women embracing their biological roles, this needless suffering will continue.

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Laguna Beach Fogey
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#1

So true. This is not complicated.

It’s almost as if our ancestors had the right idea about woman’s natural role.

Jaime Gandarilla
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Yeah, let’s keep it natural, biological.
You know, like cars, the internet, cancer medicine, the classic natural way of life

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Couldn’t even make a difference between being natural, biological and being advanced in Technology ! Cars, Internet, Cancer Medicine etc. don’t make us UN-natural or loosing biology ! You still eat with your mouth, not with your … !!!

By the way, guess you know who Invented, Innovated and Pioneered the “like list” you posted ! MEN.

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Your conflating technology and genetics as if they were equally mutable. Nature and genetics are more powerful (exponentially) than any craft of man. We justify this farce where we commit genetic suicide in this country by mistaking technology’s power for our own ability.

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Because we have cars, women should no longer give birth. Hahaha beta cuck illogic

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Nobody says women shouldn’t give birth. But women who don’t want to give birth certainly never should.

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I can tell you for certain that every women wants to have children. The ones who don`t are only denying it. Doesn`t mean women should be forced to have children though. If they want to be unsatisfied, let them be unsatisfied.

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I don’t want them. I’d literally rather be dead. Why would you think I’m denying it?

Jade Wargo
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Thank you Taylor. I completely agree!!!

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Well to begin with, your hairstyle shows that you at least have cognitive dissonance about something. That could be about anything though: being a thot, needing to lose 40 pounds, or procreating. Or aging. Or everything.

I’m just going to wait for another 50 year old female commenter to defend her haircut lol. Yeah, that’s… still in. lzozlzzoz

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Or maybe she’s seen so much rejection in her lifetime, she’s afraid the baby’s going to just jump ship and abort her first.

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It think in fist fight, Donald Trump’s wig would obliterate hers tbh.

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I admit that gave me a good laugh! I love original trolls, they’re so much more interesting!

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I never wanted kids even after I had one. Got knocked up at 17 did my time with my child’s father and we paroled in our early 30’s. Never did it again. Never wanted kids…ever.

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The reason you “no longer want kids” is because you already fulfilled your biological desire by having one (you probably also still have post-partum depression from giving birth).

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Dufus, I never wanted kids. Re-read for clarity. Sheez.

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So you know the thoughts, feelings and desires of every single woman on earth, do ya?

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Don’t tell me or any other woman how we should live our lives. That’s not any of your business. Just because I have a uterus that doesn’t make me entitled to have kids.

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It makes you capable though, and apparently entitled to a lot of idiotic things as well.

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I think maybe you meant obligated.

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No one has the right to tell us what to do. We are not objects that need directions and we do not only have three purposes. Are mens only purposes to have procreate and provide for a family?

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These people are clearly insecure trolls. They are to be pitied.

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I would take issue with the point of using lesbian mental health as an indicator. You need to look at stats of normal childless women. Even here you would need to be careful, most feminists wont have children but many have mental issues anyway.

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what’s that assertion based on?

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What’s the assertion based on: that femicunts are always victims ? that it is OK when a femicunt physically assaults MAN but not the reverse ? that it is OK when femicunts imitates MASCULINITY and still demand for special treatment & entitlement ? that it is OK when femicunts do Slut Walks and yet blame MEN for “slut shaming” ? that is is OK for femicunts to walk bare chested and yet blame MEN for “objectifying” them ?

I know there is no point in arguing with you and/or people who are blindly against of this article, because, it’s like: throwing stone in shit !!!

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Im not against the article, Im as anti feminist as they come. But I wouldn’t extrapolate Lesbian mental heath to childless women’s mental health, they are 2 different groups. Lesbians might have their own characteristics outside of a normal sample
I think we would agree that the current culture is messing with women’s heads so that perfectly normal women if maybe the easily led ones are finding themselves out of the gene pool because they focused on their careers or ruined themselves chasing c0ck. so find me a sample of these women and show me the results. It might be similar for sure

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Nice try, but you’ll never get a straight answer out of them.

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Count on a liberal to brag about not understanding a concept that’s relatively easy to grasp. This is a branch of virtue-signalling I like to call “ineptitude-signalling”. It conveys to other liberals that, not to worry, you aren’t any sharper than the rest of them. It puts your liberal friends at ease, making them feel less-triggered about their brain-dead condition and more accepting of you as another liberal.

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The group photo at top made me laugh. There are only 4 or 5 out of that group that I would even consider fucking. Check out the chubby girl in the glasses top left. Too funny.

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She’s the caterer.

Jaime Gandarilla
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Imagine how many would consider fucking you… -5?

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Jaime, look in the mirror. Barf!

Ravi Macho
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Well said ! Do not reply to these kind of morons, it’s like feeding the crow.

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I know it’s not a high res picture, but look close. That entire bottom row could get it.

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I’d do 8! Not all at once mind you… I ain’t THAT much of a stud!!!!

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Based.

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Are all of you stupid?

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Sex does not have a secondary function. The body is interested in only two things – to survive, and to reproduce one like itself. It is not interested in anything else. But sex has become a tremendous problem for us, because we have turned this basic biological functioning of the body into a pleasure movement. If there is no thought (culture), there is no sex at all, only reproduction.

The second problem is that it is not just the sex act that is important to us, but the build-up that is there, the romantic structure that we have built around the love play. If you look at a beautiful woman, for example, the moment you say that it is
a woman, you have already created a problem – “A beautiful woman!” Then it is more pleasurable to hold her hands than just to look at her. It is more pleasurable to embrace her, even more pleasurable to kiss her, and so on. It is the build-up that is really the problem. The moment you say that she is a beautiful woman, culture comes into the picture and you have a prioblem.

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Are you saying that sex for the purpose of pleasure does not exist? I’d say my biological drive to bang is far higher than my biological drive to have a child.

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Your biological drive to bang IS your biological drive to have a child.

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I see your point here. Just like the act of eating/drinking. Both acts are very basic to our survival, but then those necessities somehow “developed” into pleasure.

And some people find their pleasure eating junk food, but they can’t get proper nutrition out of it.

Just sayin’.

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Good analogy. The body does not know pleasure, the latter comes from thought.

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That was the purpose of women in Western countries maybe 40 years ago today if you said this in public you would be labeled a mysoginist. Very few women engage in exclusively reproductive sex, many do however engage in recreational sex, few engage in child rearing, and few in homemaking, most have their own jobs. Of course there are many who do child rearing and homemaking but they do so without a male partner.
The first one though is uncommon, recreational sex is very common among most Western women including those who engage in homemaking and child rearing.
This description of females applies to places in Asia, Latin America, Africa, and the Middle East, but not Western Europe and North America.
There is a reason why Western nations as a whole are aging and getting older because women no longer perform these three roles today. 40 years ago it was common to see a white family with 3 or 4 children, its very rare to see that today.
This is also just one of the other underlying reasons why many Western nations have permitted large numbers of immigrants from third world countries with higher fertility rates, its because our women no longer perform their traditional roles and our societies are getting old. Many people might not like the idea of large numbers of Muslims and South Americans living in America and Europe but the problem is with our women not producing children and playing traditional roles.

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I agree with your comment for the most part, except for the Latin America portion: they’re quickly going the way of North America and Western Europe.

And for Asia, you can exclude Japan: they’ve gone beyond, and are note even reproducing.

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Japan was colonized by the West so that is the reason but even then the Japanese women are nowhere near as bad as women in America and Western Europe. Also with regards to South America, there is no social safety net in those countries so women there still not as bad as in North America and Western Europe but eventually become the same.
The Middle East because of their strong religious tradition, women will keep their three core roles for a very long time. I do not see anything changing in my life time or even this century or the next.
Mainland Asia I see growing for a few more decades but they will level out as well. I do not think think the world population will just keep on growing on its current trajectory.

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Getting harder to find a vagina that still grips the penis in the west.

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How do you know? Have you even been in “the East”? Have you slept with a considerable number to be statistically significant?

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@Jaime Gandarilla. You strike me as a woman masquerading as a man.

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Why, because he’s smarter than all of you put together? Don’t be sexist, now!

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Captain Save a Hoe, is that you?

Cpt_Justice
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Oh, I see you *do* need help. Yes, I’ll save you!

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Trolling, he’s vacuous one liners are testament of that.

Cpt_Justice
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Sadly, it’s harder & harder to tell who’s belligerently ignorant & who’s “pretending”.

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How do you know that vaginas in West can still grip the penis !? Did you try ALL the vaginas in the West !!! Have you slept with a considerable number to be statistically significant ? Significant enough to question @spicynujac “How do you know” !?

And have you ever been to any part of the world and slept with a considerable number to compare and say that vaginas in the West can still grip the penis !!!??? Buffoon.

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Oh, please. What they really mean is that their penises are too tiny for a normal vagina.

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Captain save a ho

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I’m *trying* to save you *now*, from yourselves.

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I don’t have to check my neighbors fridge for eggs to know there is none in mine. Logic, give it a try some time.

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http://sister-hood.com/leyla-hussein/muslim-girls-great-sex-get/

soon in the middle east if this aint propaganda

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Wow. Just wow.

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I agree!!!! That’s why, as a woman, we need to only have one man or very few sex partners. The more sex a female has, the harder it will be for you guys to find it pleasurable to fuck us. This is a big reason, in my opinion, that it is more acceptable for guys to fuck as much they want tham to see a female with multiple partners. What do you think?

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Biology wants diversity and that comes from a woman having her children sired by as many men as possible. Society wants a man to only pay for his children and to feel like he is the boss and head of his family. That is why society wants women to have only one man.

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Aw. It must suck to live life with a micro penis.

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Yeah! I hear that it’s an affliction that curses those with the name of Alex. Totally, apparently. /smh

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So much more of this comes down to the gender ratio (in the US at least). A woman simply by being average has hundreds of men after her any given time.

Sure, those men aren’t trying to commit to her, but she doesn’t want them to commit. They are there nonetheless. It’s a constant revolving door of men.

The phrase “buyers market” never rang more true.

If anything, the US needs more LGBT. Roissy himself said long ago he wanted all questioning men to turn gay. Gotta agree with that.

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It doesn’t matter if she’s older, on food stamps, criminal record, multiple “baby daddy’s” or a combination of some or all of those.

Simply not being fat & average looking means she has a steady supply of orbiters.

Even fat women probably have orbiters these days. The situation in America is bad.

If Trump wanted to win the entire male vote (minus gays & some SWPL clowns), all he would have to do is say he’s gonna legalize prostitution and start a deportation program for men, while importing women to help balance out the ratio.

You can’t MAGA when you have a country that has such a male surplus. Millions of straight men cannot find a wife simply because there aren’t enough available women (even when you factor in undesirables). When you find a woman in the US it’s very hard to keep her because she has hundreds of other dudes trying to contact her. If she’s been on tinder or ANY dating site/app, you can bet it’s in the thousands. She will constantly question if you are the right guy.

Typical tinder woman, sizes up a guy in her match list. Is he good in bed? Is he fun? Does he have money? Offer stability? Educated? Her preferences change like the wind. Typically, they want a combination of this, but to a lot of women it’s simply a video game where they can meet a different types of men on their time, never yours. Some will flat out refuse to meet you if you don’t meet them within an hour of when they say so. If you don’t, they’ll go on to the next guy. Their match queue is in a constant state of refresh. lol. One day, it’s a hipster, next day a rich guy, next day an SWPL lawyer, a doctor the following week, etc.

Of course, Trump is probably a pawn in the Clinton chess game. Oddly enough, if he said this, it would be far more controversial than his comments, although it may actually MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

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https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-49704.html

Assuming you don’t watch Ellen, every male in the US should read this.

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Not exactly on topic, but today I saw one of the most beautiful women I`ve ever seen walking hand in hand with a heinous bull dyke in Oslo, they both had handbags which read “the Matriarchy” something on them.

I just thought, what a tragic waste of superior genes.

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that’s very heart breaking. If I was there, I would literally (Hitler) cry inside.

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Suffering? really

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In the barbaric backward Islamic societies they multiply their best and brightest females.

Here in the advanced west, we’ve found a superior strategy …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjpGBEPYv80&nohtml5=False

I’m sure you’ll have a very rewarding career.

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What does my career have to do with it? ?

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Holy fucking Bamatards Batman!

“somebody needs to pay for all my my children…for all my suffering”

Classic. I’m all for forced sterilization and parenting licensesure to stop these idots from reproducing.

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No, no, no … voluntary or withhold check. Or rather just withhold check. They will volunteer. It sucks to pay your own bills. They need that experience. Marxism is all about subsidizing dysgenics. Let’s not do that anymore.

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Marxism is about dumbing down the population and destroying the family unit. It’s easier to control stupid people with groupthink, which are the majority of leftists.

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No. It seems you are Suffering ? really !!!

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No I’m not!

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Now that the neo-cons bombs annihilated Lybia, I don’t think there’s room there for all the bullshit we have in the west, safe spaces, feminazis, SJWs, etc.
I’ve always said that unless there’s a major catastrophy happening things will keep going down the drain in terms of values and morality and women will keep inflicting ugly tattoos to themselves, cutting their hair and negate their true nature.
I think we’re past the point of no return now and no Trump will fix this mess. Children who should be protected are indoctrinated in public schools to be obedient to female power. This brainwashing has produced so many morons in just a few years, it’s not even funny. I’ve been re pilling my son since a long time but still there’s some resistance. Man, I need some kratom smile

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Don’t worry Bro. Mr. Donald Trump will be our next President and although he might not be able to fix this femicuntism, he will show the power of True Masculinity. I am sure that MEN (well real MEN, not manginas) will stand by him.

Did you ever notice the elections ? It’s not between Liberals and Democrats; it’s between:
MASCULINITY vs (Weak + Inferior + Pathetic) femicuntism.

*** Mr. Donald Trump, next President of the United States ***

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Yep, you’re *definitely* afraid of women.

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We love women but not femicunts and manginas

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I pity you, most of all because you believe that what you said is “good”.

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One thing i don’t understand Roosh, is that you keep saying that women who go in nightclubs are promiscuous and empty, and are eluding their real role to be at home taking care of children and having traditionnal values; but aren’t you running after these women in nightclubs? And having sex with those same women that you despise?

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There has been a movement away from gaming women to more wise and adultly pursuits. Read articles from the last year and compare to older ones.

Anyway, why don’t you worry about your own problems instead of how someone else is living their life? I’ve got enough issues to deal with of my own between women, money, my career, plans, hobbies, etc. to worry about who strangers on the internet may or may not be banging. Some people may like club sluts, some may despise them, but I really couldn’t care less.

Except that if everyone ignored them they’d stop being slutty but there is no chance of that.

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One thing I also don’t understand you Moron ! is that you or your kind of people or the society saying:

=that MEN who look at women are creeps ? but not the reverse !?
=that women imitating MEN & MASCULINITY is OK but still they need to be treated as “different”, “entitled” !?
=that women can physically assault MEN and can go un-punished but not the reverse ?
=that women can get “free pills” from Tax Payers Money, are given self-defense training on Tax Payers Money, have mandatory quota in corporate jobs, have standards lowered in the requirements and YET claim that they are EQUAL to MEN !?
=that women can do Slut Walks, Walk bare chested, Deliberately S/Expose their body for unwanted attentions and YET blame MEN for being Objectifying them !?

How irrelevantly you are arguing ? So you mean women who are in relation & who take care of “children” and home (are they doing any favor !!!???) have time for nightclubs !!?? interesting, indeed !

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Practice what you teach. Hyprocitical. Someone needs to understand supply and demand.

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Roosh is the one being a hypocrite. That was op’s point.

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I am aware of that. I agree with the OP. Thanks for seeing that.

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Shhhh!!! They hate when you point out facts & logic – especially when it zeroes in on their hypocrisy & dishonesty!

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Trump has been telling a half-truth lately. The election is rigged, except claiming it’s rigged against him. The entire thing is rigged, as the elites have chosen Hillary long ago. He’s part of the ploy. The red-pill community of course can’t even consider this, since their hivemind is just as impressive as the left.

#vaudville2016

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Wikileaks is part of the ruse. They’re in on it. That’s why they keep the people waiting haha.

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WikiLeaks is a Mossad front …

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Trump is a Zionist puppet … he takes his orders from Tel Aviv …

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If women in Western societies actually performed these roles rather than deviating from them or modifying them, our societies would be far less dysfunctional. Think about society decades ago compared to today. We have more modern technology and consumerism yet far more family and social dysfunction than in years past.

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Since feminism, 30% of the population is on psych meds

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Feminism has destroyed the traditional support roles in the family unit, the Christmas holidays are coming in many places, but what was once a time of togetherness and family is now a consumer orgy in the US and most developed nations. Its not surprising that mental illness is now so common among so many people because their traditional social support systems no longer exist.

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The only purpose of sex is reproduction. Men constantly redefine its “meaning” to humanize sex and her(Male denial and blindness is the effect of pleasure)

– Biologically sexual pleasure is for the male only: The female body’s purpose is to excite the man through his libido(masculinity). The vagina’s purpose is to excite the penis to make him orgasm(masculinity), fundamental for reproduction. Apparently the ovule also excites the sperm with a substance called bourgeonal
Analogies everywhere. The reverse is not true(unless… emasculation)

For this reason the vagina has incomparably less nerve endings while the clitoris is a masculine penis entirely, a leftover with no purpose(undeveloped)

– But because men have this capacity to see meaning where there is none, is that several myths are being created. The woman is not real at all, she is a concept derived from his own masculinity and projected on her, that generates pleasure in him based on her stimuli(imitation). That is how males gets to see her as something positive, and also worth penetrating, and worth protecting.

– Females can’t do the same, they can’t see true erotic meaning in your penis, your nipples or whatever. So the man invents technology for her: contraceptive pills, vibrators, provocative clothing that is also artistic(euphemism to disguise her animal behavior) to so redefine her as beautiful or feminine, or whatever.
Men create the woman-design that makes of her an interesting thing(pleasure), so women imitate that design. But now men created new technology that makes her a freak of nature, an artificial imitation of the man(more pleasure for him)

– Females do not have a reproductive purpose, but a self centered one, that if allowed to degenerate, becomes promiscuity, basically prostitutes(of the state). Females depend on sex to get the attention of a man, to be chosen by him, to keep him interested and to steal from him. Females also use pregnancy(the child) for their own benefit, otherwise they have a very high tendency to kill them, abandon them. Similar thing happened in Rome, when men are not allowed to be men by the state, females become promiscuous, men become hedonists, and the human bonding process, completely corrupted.
The purpose of reproduction is for the masculine sex(genes selection).
In other words, women do not have a maternal instinct, only a self centered one, as their real purpose is to attract a new father(protector), for their own benefit. Or like you said, they are like children(actually they are, literally).

-Gays are the result of a society supporting emasculation, abuse, trauma, rape on boys, etc, basically boys who were not allowed to develop their masculinity.

We all want to fantasize about a woman that does not exist.This is what makes us create positive definitions about them, and hide everything wrong they do.

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Good post. You should check Sex and Character by Otto Weininger, if you haven’t already. You will find Chapter X “Motherhood and Prostitution” especially useful.

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What a load of nonsense that you pulled out of your ass. Women have no maternal instinct? Women are the primary caregivers of children, the man’s purpose is just to be a midwife. You are nothing. The majority of men on this planet are completely useless and an utter waste of flesh biologically speaking. Men are disposable.

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Now, now, let’s not go *too* far. “Men” like him & “Roosh” are totally disposable, but not *normal* men!

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OMG. This is literally the sickest, dumbest, most insane thing I have ever read in my life! Then again, I have refused to read Mein Kampf….

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Silly nonsense

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What a load of evolutionary bullshit

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Remember the corollary to this are the main purposes of men. If the men abandon their purposes, we are hypocrites if we castigate women for doing the same. Off the top of my head, men should be:
1. Guarding and protecting their wives and children
2. Be a role model for raising good children
3. Be the breadwinner
4. Build the monuments, buildings, legal systems and political entities.

Men should NOT be sleeping around with women. We can blame women and call them sluts for giving up the goods so easy, but what’s the point of this blame game? Men have made women who they are today.

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Good point. Don’t criticise, look in the mirror.

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Cheers. Where you from, if you don’t mind? Noting the way you spell ‘criticise’, like I do in Australia.

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Sydney smile

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Cool mate. From Perth myself

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Would be interesting to know which families feminists come from.

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Intelligent ones.

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Roosh your articles really amaze me because it is like you are writing down my own thoughts especially if you consider the fact that i grew up in a very different part of the (western) world. Off course, your opinions and thoughts are based on your own observations and experiences but natural laws and human biology are universal.

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If one studies history, men have had these same thoughts and opinions for hundreds and hundreds of years.

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Aren’t you going against biology by living in your mothers basement?

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where did you get that information from?

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Meh. Looks like an unreliable news site.

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The Daily Mail? Riiiight…..

I’m sure you’ll say New York Magazine is “unreliable” too?

How about THE WHITE PAGES, where her name is listed on the report?

http://www.whitepages.com/name/Daryush-Valizadeh

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It looks like it was written by a hateful journalist though. The article doesn’t provide any proof that Roosh was in fact still live in his mom’s basement. Did Roosh stated it? No. Did the journalist came to this “basement”? I doubt so. Is there any picture of this so called “Roosh’s mom’s basement”? No.
“He’s staying at his mother’s home. He must be a loser living on his mom’s basement. Because there’s no way a grown man would visit their parents’ house and spend some nights there or maybe just to spend some time with his family. That is highly unlikely.”

The one that was written on daily mail seems like something anyone can make out of thin air.

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Your bias and denial of facts is impressive

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No. It’s called being critical. Don’t let cheap ass news shoves everything down your throat.
Or do.
Your choice.

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Haha! Exactly :))

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Stupidest shit I’ve ever read….

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It’s because you are a pile of cow shit !!!

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AGREE. Stupidity and willful ignorance.

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Meanwhile, back the RooshVforum, creative ways of using the word “cuck” has become an odd fascination. It’s literally a chant at this point.

The woodchuck saying…everyone knows it. Just replace chuck with “cuck” and you have your typical RVF poster circa 2016.

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3 purposes of women:

Cook
Clean
And spread pussy for her Man

After marriage

Take care of children
Listen to her Man’s command as if it was God given order
Maintain her physical shape

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Same story ! As always, exaggerating and deviating from main topic.

A woman has to Cook & Clean even if she is “single” !

A woman is NOT doing any favor by spreading (often filthy/smelly) pussy. She is getting as much (probably more !) Pleasure, Enjoyment and Satisfaction than her Man. Most importantly, She is getting FREE SEX !!!

A woman takes care of “her” children. Guess she is not baby sitting for children of others ! Because she can “Breed”, her MAN is feeding her, providing shelter for her, giving her FREE SEX, Pampering her and bearing ALL her tantrums, dramas and entitled attitude !!!

A woman maintains/is maintaining her physical shape for her own well-being and not doing any favor ! Good shape = Good health !!!

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You’re so right Roosh. We lived many thousands years with women embracing their purposes. Only since 50 years women began to inverse those roles. This will lead towards the end of western civilisation sad

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LOL!! You need to read some actual history.

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So, you’re saying that the only purpose of men is to assist women in reproducing. That sounds about right.

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A man with no moral responsibilities to his women or family.. You must be doing a great job! Being a baby daddy to so many children and negleting any responsibility being a husband or father..yeah you must be doing a great job.

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Woman also have no business masturbating for their personal hedonism. Our current degenerate system of sex ed teaches girls how to do this, and I suspect it lowers their inhibitions about having lesbian experiences and relationships, during their most fertile years when they should marry instead and form families.

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LMFAO this shit would be tragic if it wasnt so hilarious! ”OH NO! IVE MASTERBATED SO NOW I MUST BE A LESBIAN! I NO LONGER HAVE ANY INTEREST IN FORMING A FAMILY OR RELATIONSHIIP WITH ANY MAN BECAUSE THINKING OF OTHER WOMEN IS JUST SOO YUMMY AND IRRESISTABLE EVERY TIME I MASTERBATE! MMM I CANNOT CONTROL MYSELF!! WHAT AM I GOING TO DO?

LMFAO. SAYS THE GUY WHO BEATS HIS DICK TO LESBIAN AND MASTERBATION PORN!

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And yet they squeal like stuck pigs when we point out that their obvious concern is only to control the women they can’t “get”.

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Depends. Flow of nurture is far more powerful.
But it is definitely not for women who can’t step up, aka the majority. Good luck explaining this to any deranged sjw though.

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The problem with this is that it is not really true. At any given point in time during the history of our species, the vast majority of its females have worked in one way or another. In prehistoric times, they collected fruits, nuts and other kinds of food. In the agrarian society, they took part in the work in the fields and performed a host of other essential task as well, far from only confined to their own homes. In industrial societies, most of them have to work in factories or take on other kinds of paid work, out of pure economic necessity.

There has always been, and will probably always be, a division of labour between the sexes. The female organism is adapted to her primary function — to give birth and rear children — and this limits her ability to perform many other tasks. However, we would be deceiving ourselves if we believed that this is the only thing women do, or should do, biologically.

I also think that it is appropriate for a woman to stay at home if her family can afford it (which is usually the case in the west), but historically, this has not been very common.

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I bet many mothers would stay at home if they could afford to, or work part-time. It’s just not realistic in most westernized areas and especially in urban areas where the cost of living is so high.
A lot of this wishful thinking about what women should or should not be doing is based on a time that no longer exists. For better or worse, the majority of women are just not going to revert back to traditional gender specific roles. I’m not sure how griping about it is going to improve anything for men who want that. It’s just doesn’t serve a purpose other than make some men feel even worse about the fact that they will likely not find these ideal women.
And if, by some magical chance all the women in the world decided to only have sex for reproductive purposes, many men would immediately cease to have access to sex because women wouldn’t be humping random guys. And, as there are actually only a few days out of the month that she can get pregnant, those would be the only days she would provide sex, if she’s only doing it for reproduction. So we would a group of men not getting any, and a group of men barely getting any. Then there would be an article pining about the good old days when women were sluts and fucked everybody.

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Women go blind from smart phone use by Dalrymple: The medical (and legal) consequences of looking at your phone in bed
It’s not my fault I look at my emails 24 hours a day — so who can I sue?http://health.spectator.co.uk/medical-legal-consequences-looking-phone-bed/

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Is this a joke? I came across this blog, where this guy gets away with sexist and hateful posts and there’s not even one person in comments section who has a bit of common sense to say something. So, the question is are you deleting the rest of the comments? Also, since your blog is all about banging women, here’s another question: who would fuck you? You’re ugly as fuck!

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..

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Oh ok, I get it. You guys are simple haters. I wish you all common sense and normal sized penises. How sad.

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You are a textbook example of feminine way of discussion – no arguments made, no facts presented, no logic engaged, just dramatic outrage, shaming, ridiculing, labelling opponents as bad people, referring to some mystical common sense (aka ‘opinion’ or ‘truth’ of the herd). I actually expected also some “I feel sorry for you all” or equivalent, you disappointed me here a bit, but with “how sad” you made up for it at least somehow.

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Female way of discussion? Now that is the mystical notion and labelling. You ask for the argument? The guy who responded to me didn’t ask for the argument. He told me to go fuck, reproduce and clean kitchen. And that’s an insult for me.I come from the country where sexism is still the issue,but I was raised by strong mother and father who encouraged me to always fight for my dreams and work hard to achieve my goals. (and it’s working out quite well). Now I’m working visual artist and I wouldn’t like to get married or have kids ever. What you guys are doing is simple hating. And my explanation of male hate and misogynism towards women is a result of frustrated sex life and the lack of attention from strong, independent women. I’m not saying that guy with that state of mind can’t have any girls, it’s just no self respecting woman would sleep with you or have a long term relationship with you. All you can have is uneducated self-loathing slave-wife and some cheap sluts you’ll fuck behind your wife’s back.

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You didn’t make any counterpoint, didn’t challenge anyhow the ideas stated in the article in your very first post, you just came here like ‘is this a joke’ ‘you are all misogynists’ ‘who would ever fuck you?’ – I’ve seen this behaviour too often, exclusively from women, and I therefore reserve myself a right to that kind of a generalized statement that I made. When you see say a dog for thousand times, and meet a thousand and first one, you are pretty sure what it is.

The point of the article is that everybody is best and happiest in what (s)he is biologically designed for, and that it is not very wise to deny it.

Humankind can only strive in the natural basic blood-bind structures – strong (extended) families/clans, whatever you call it. Your individualist pursuits should not make you forget that you are only a part of everlasting chain going from ancestors to children, and that there’s something powerful and noble in embracing this reality, finding a good man whom you can trust, and fully give yourself to him, only him ever ideally, and build family together. If you think that submitting to a man would somehow diminish your dignity or his respect toward you, you are tragically mistaken.
(Not talking directly about you now, but in general: it is funny how outraged modern women can be by the idea of submission to a man, while they are perfectly fine with submitting in the most intimate way in the act of sex to either relative strangers, or guys whom they are able to easily discard once they start feeling they are not ‘happy’ and the relationship is not ‘fulfilling’ or whatever shit they explain away their hypergamous throwaway mentality with).

Many women may very well find out that truth about motherhood one day, when it’s already late, and still demand everybody to accommodate to her right to have it all. What men here are saying (apart from other) is basically: you, woman, made certain choices, spent best time of your life pursuing whatever goals you either chose or society indoctrinated you to think you should pursue, very often handling yourself in such way that left not much worth for the lucky guy who comes into play last, when you one day find out you actually want a family, so my choice is now to not want you in my life in any serious, committed manner. You choose what to do with your life. I choose whether and in what way I want you in my life, based on your past choices.

‘Strong and independent’ (whatever that means) women wouldn’t last too long without male power and protection, in the western world these male functions are only outsourced to institutions etc, which gives you the false feeling of strength and independence from individual men in your life.

You use the word ‘hate’, but I don’t see any. I see realism, and maybe certain level of bitterness justified by general state of womankind in the western and westernized world.
And your ‘explanation’ is typical shaming attempt to disqualify anything the other may say, by picturing him as a loser you don’t need to take seriously. C’mon.
What you do in your last three sentences is interesting to observe (apart from it being vomit-inducing lack of class from strong and independent woman) and see for what it really is – the strategies, attacks against where you think my (or any man’s) self-worth lays or should lay (basically in women’s approval), automatically supposing that any man that has serious objections against state of today’s women must have problem to get ‘quality’ women (like eg you, I suppose)..
What if I tell you now that I’m married, with a visual artist (yeah, happens), for 15 years, and you have just seriously insulted my wife and I expect your apology, or your father or brother or husband to face me in a fight?

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No, I deserve an apology for being insulted and depreciated. You are telling me that I’m worthless without male protection. And my self-worth is only in male approval . That is sick! What I’m saying about sexually frustrated men and “loser” guys is same as what you say about “female behavior”. I’ve seen it for thousand times and I can tell when I see it again. As for going against one’s biology. I think we’ve evolved enough now that we are not considered animals any more. And assuming everyone wants the same thing is the sign of narrow-mindedness. For example my best friend wanted to become a mother since high school, now she has 3 kids while I’ve never wanted that and even thinking about it makes me uncomfortable, while my paintings for me are more than babies. I can dedicate all my life to creating them. I’m sure there are more women like me who think the same.
By the way, my brother or father face you in a fight? Maybe my father will also get thousand sheep for marrying me off, and my new husband will call you on duel with a glove or however it’s done.

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Where did I say you are worthless without male protection? Show me, refer to that point in my text please. It’s not there, which means you make now a tantrum over something that doesn’t exist.

I said that without male protection your strength and independence is limited / male protection enables your inflated/false sense of strength and independence.

It’s actually somehow flattering, in a bit perverse way, to see how you in the initial part of your post basically take my sentences, switch genders, and throw them back at me, and think that you argue with my points.

What you say later doesn’t contradict what I was saying. You make your choices, follow your calling in your life, and bear consequences.
Consequences being for example, that when in 10/15 years your hormonal system starts to demand baby, it won’t be possible, or it will be more difficult, or it won’t be possible with that kind of guy you would like, and with the one you will manage to land for that purpose you will feel like you have settled for less, and would despise him somewhere deep inside.

We are evolved-enough animals.

If a man in real life would speak the same way you speak about my wife, it would end in physical confrontation. But because you are a woman and I am sexist, I would never hit you. But I expect someone more physically capable among men who have some responsibility for you to step in and face consequences of your rude mouth. Equal and fair and non-sexist would be to beat you up regardless of you being a woman, correct?

Thousand sheep? Are you a virgin?

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Speak about your wife? I don’t know you and neither do I know your wife. (To be honest I wouldn’t even try to get to know your family even if we met in real life, since you stand againt everything that I’m fighting to achieve in my society, I can imagine since you get along with your wife, she agrees with you) I was generalizing the observations that I consider sexist men (who are absolute bullies, and there is no arguing about it for me) to demonstrate, or be characterized by. I think you bringing your wife in the argument is unnessecery personification of the general argument we are having. As for beating me up, or showing me mercy, because I’m a woman, you demonstrate very disturbing trait that I was glad to see to be honest. It gives me a very good idea what kind of person you are, and weather to take you seriously or not (definitley NOT).
I don’t think I’ll continue explaining to you that being a bully is not a good think, since I have better things to do and life to live. Although it was interesting to hear your point of view, even I don’t agree with not even one point that you make.
As for explaining female hormonal system, try to talk about something that you actually understand. I’m eager to take that chance and everyone has their own priorities in life.
And lastly English in not my first language and if you are not happy with my comprehention skills, choice of words , or how I recycle your ideas, which were very helpful for me to make my point, keep it in mind and don’t be flattered.

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“no self respecting woman would sleep with you or have a long term relationship with you. All you can have is uneducated self-loathing slave-wife”
X
“Speak about your wife? I don’t know you and neither do I know your wife.”

….

The beating up I brought up as an example of you automatically expecting the protection (based on only the fact that you are a woman), that makes you feel so insulted and depreciated to be reminded about.
Just pointing out contradictions in your narrative. But you, in typical feminine manner to engage in a discussion, made it a ‘proof’ of whatever personality monstrosity of mine. Which I’m quite happy about actually. I have no ambition to leave positive traces in minds of deluded people.
And don’t worry, I wouldn’t take it further than spanking your ass.

In the quote above you say you don’t know me, so how do you know what I do or don’t understand about endocrine system? You don’t.

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It was a generalized “you” which applied to men with same mindset. Like “you all ” but now I’m sure it applies to you as well. I don’t know you , but as you said before” I’ve seen a dog for thousand times.
Good buy and have a nice life. I hope you’ll see many successful women ( your bosses, politicians, presidents) in your life who will own your ass.

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Absolutely.
(the examples of women’s ‘success’ you chose speak volumes about what’s wrong with today’s women.)
Bye.

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You did a good job, but none of these assholes are educable. Just spit on them & move on.

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/Being one of the assholes, I gave you an upvote now – your cowardish indirectness in how to insult people, as a wonderful exhibit of white knight ‘courage’ (even in risk-free anonymous environment) , really deserves it./

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Your further confession, however unwitting (& the emphasis REALLY on “unwitting”) is noted. Sweetie, it’s a public forum; I knew you’d see it. It was my contempt that kept me from bothering to address any of you pigs directly.

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I have wittingly used your word, as simple discourse/text-coherence building strategy, no confession whatsoever.
But ‘asshole’ from your kind can be actually taken for a compliment.
Briefly scanning now through comments here show me that you ARE addressing people directly, so what do you mean then by “any of you pigs”?? – this is something not reaching yet that level that you could be directly called liar for it, but this your inconsistency here puts your credibility seriously in doubt. Anyways, explanation you can come up with to save your face could be eg that you can’t express yourself properly (then talking about others as not being educable makes you look ridiculous), or that you categorize local readership on some piggishness scale, where some are not pigs and therefore worthier direct addressing, but reading through your other posts doesn’t support that. So it rather looks like that with some of the pigs here you fear direct confrontation, and disquise it with talking about contempt being the reason, while creating for yourself a trap with your own wording, that made it a general statement.
And bear in mind that throwing ‘pigs’ and ‘assholes’ to the face of a man in real life situation would cost you couple of teeth at least. It’s amazing to see how insults are the very first ammunition at hand that pussies of your kind grab, when they have no substantial argument and feel secure behind the keyboard. Be careful with that.

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Aw, did I trigger you? Did you need a safe space? (But I do thank you for the laughs. Not sure which was funniest; you incoherently accusing me of an inability to express myself, you whining that I changed my mind about who I decided to nail, or you acting like a keyboard Rambo while accusing me of the same. Great stuff!)

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What is ‘aw’?

I pointed out inconsistencies in your writing – you saying something ( “… addressing any of you pigs directly..”) that is proven to be untrue by scrolling a bit down at this very same page. Words and combinations of words have meaning, (like in this case ‘any’ = none of a given set), and if the meaning of your words contradicts not only reality, but within reality even your own recent actions, you can’t be taken seriously.

Then I pointed out you being too fast to deliver insults, and that it’s only the safe nature of this space that allows this your shitty behaviour, that in real life would have real consequences, that would teach you that, again, words have meaning.

You talk/argue like a child or majority of women – no arguments or addressing reality, but pretty much engaging only (to refer to Roman Jakobson here) the ‘poetic’ and the ‘affective’ function of language. What you do almost exclusively is using demeaning ad hominems, insults, framing and reframing (by use of certain words with certain meanings: incoherently, accusing, whining, keyboard Rambo, etc.. ; in fact it’s subtle manipulation) what the other said, in order to ridicule, when on the factual level you have been cornered.

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Oh, yes, TRIGGERED. & hypocritical, too. Of course

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Yeah, you bet.
Go die captain.

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Thank you for confirming my judgment. It’s fairly obvious that everyone who points out what an unwonted arrogant concern troll you are gets told to go die.

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No worries.
By the way, in this your last attempt you failed in such elementary thing as simple following the causal and time sequence of events. Look:
You say me being unwonted arrogant concern troll NOW, for the first time, while I told you to go die YESTERDAY. There has been no mention ever before of what an unwonted arrogant concern troll I was, until now. Asshole, pig, triggered and hypocritical, source of good laughs, yes. But that’s very different. So your second sentence today is wrong in what it claims that logically and causally and temporally follows after what, which really waters down the intended effect.
Anyways, to not embarrass you further (the history of our exchanges here could be already enough for that), let’s do it again, this time right:
First you: are saying now what an unwonted arrogant concern troll I am.
And then me: Go die captain. Please.

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blahblahblah tldr soso (Thanks for confirming what an insane little brat you are) BYE

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….so did you call your friend an uneducated slave wife then? You insult women more than any man here did. If you were so confident in yourself honey you wouldn’t feel the need to be here throwing a tizzy fit. Maybe you should go work on one of your paintings you claim makes you happy and calm down.

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This is crazy. There are all kinds of women:presidents, prostitutes, murderers, serial killers, educated, uneducated, strong, weak and any adjective that comes to your mind. This assholes generalize women and attack the notion of womenhood in general. On the other hand, who I insulted was a kind of person who would give herself to abuse and domination with consent and submit to a man who thinks she’s his personal object. That’s the slave-wife as I would say it and I think women should run away from such toxic men.

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This person is simply stating their world view and value system. You disagree and bomb the comment thread to shame them for their point of view. While you are a strong independent woman you could simply make your own point in your own blog but you didn’t do that. You vehemently attack and assume a woman who gives her life to her family is a mindless slave. You attacked certain types of women and men attacking the world view of this article. You are as narrow minded as anyone. There are many who share your opinion and values, however those in this thread share a traditionalist and patriarchal point of view and there is nothing wrong or shameful in that if they live that in their own life. You are proud of your accomplishments then be proud. I think though since this blog triggered you emotionally so strongly you may want to consider that perhaps you may not be as happy with yourself as you claim to be.

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Hes disguisting. No women with self-respect would touch him. He only gets action from preying and stalking then raping drunk girls.

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One little note, about the pleasure part – maybe more accurate would be: pleasure that goes with sex is not a function /pleasure goes together with sex but purpose of sexual instinct is not to bring pleasure/, but pleasure is a reward mechanism to motivate the instinctive reproductive behaviour, and, once baby conceived and born, to strenghten bonding over sex between the two parents to keep them together during the time needed to bring up the child, or, more realistically, to keep the man around until she has use for him.
So sex is naturally for reproduction, which demonstrates clearly in sexually attractive features of one sex for the other (tells of health, fitness, etc), and, as with every behavioural pattern and economy of energetic investment versus gain from it, the incentives must outweight the disincentives for the individual to do the act, and since reproduction is absolutely crucial on the biological level, there’s this mechanism of reward with pleasure attached to it, to still support the already very strong instinctive force.
And since successful reproduction means bringing the offspring into the age where it can survive and reach adulthood, fit enough to be able to successfully reproduct itself, such massive task in some species, including humans, requires a cooperating unit of both parents, where sex then serves also to bond them. And it’s pleasurable, so that they would seek to do it, and the pleasure associated with the act and with the other fosters the bond.

So, summarized, it is – reproduction as primary goal of the instinctive sexual behaviour, bonding as secondary goal to better achieve success of the primary goal, and pleasure as additional factor, that developed as a reward mechanism to support the reproductive behavior and the bond.

So the author definitely didn’t mean what some commenters suggest here and argue against – to have sex only for reproductive purposes. But rather, that these dimensions of sex are interconnected and ignoring that fact and separating them and elevating only one cannot go without serious consequences.

Current (already for a while) situation with contraception etc would easily make us forget that, in principle, everyone to whom a woman allows sexual access is a potential father of her child, whom, unless raped, she has chosen herself. And yes – she should be judged based on these choices, be it ONS, or ‘serious’ ex, where it ‘just didn’ t work out, we somehow stopped understanding eachother’ after 1 or 2 or 4 years, since they were potential fathers of her child, with whom she would mix her DNA forever in a new being, which is quite an important decision, when it has life-long consequences.

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How do you explain the countless hunter gather groups that don’t follow the narrative we created where the man goes out and gets the food while the woman stays at home? Or all of the evidence that shows that women didn’t evolve just to bare children? And that the nuclear family didn’t start until agriculture was invented? Do some fact checking before you label someone as an object with 3 purposes.

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The practice in those is generally such that it supports the notion of woman being primarily child-bearer and homemaker – from the two activities defining these economies’ subsistence (hunt and gather) men tend to hunt, while women to gather food, or if they hunt, then it’s catching rabbits and stuff. They typically move in groups when collecting the food or digging some edible roots, often with a hunter or older boy for protection, closer to the camp, carrying little children, etc. The purpose of that is to not expose them to big dangers or risks, as (potential) mothers.
And they have often sort of monopolized the control over the daily ‘home-life’ in the hut or wherever they live, because it’s them and the children being the ones who tend to spend there most time.

I don’t think women evolved just to bear children, but when you talk about “all of the evidence” – this evidence you mention – do you mean one Marie Sklodowska for tens thousands of women whose carriers and achievements are pretty much farce, and who would be probably happier as stay-at-home mothers? Or?

The argument with agriculture is commonly heard one, but what does it actually prove? That before agriculture, in those hunter-gatherer societies you refer to, women’s life was not much more concentrated around children and matters of home, than men’s, because it functionally and biologically makes sense? That agriculture and nuclear family is evil?
By the way, ‘nuclear family’ (mom, dad, kids) is not typical neither in agricultural communities, it’s rather some extended family, multigenerational with unwed older children or siblings living there too etc. But even in the hunter-gatherer societies (like in the agricultural ones) the core of the ‘household’ is typically a couple (with additional wife later possibly).

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Actually I was referring to the research done by Christopher Ryan and Calcilda Jethra. They argue that human beings evolved in egalitarian hunter gather bands in which sexual interaction was a shared resource, much like food or child care.
According to their studies, much of evolutionary psychology has been conducted with a baias by projecting modern assumptions and beliefs onto earlier societies.
This is based on existing hunter gather societies and the study of certain closely related chimps. However, this is just one take on things, it explains why monogamy rarely works out and marriage usually ends in divorce.
Although biologically speaking, women are for producing children, the same can be said for males and all species. Also the evidence argues that most hunter gathers, women were as influential and as powerful as men (Karen Endicott).
As for examples of hunter gather societies where women hunt alongside men and often out preform, I suggest looking up the Aeta people of the Philippines. There are a few other societies that exist today, so we can suggest that it wasn’t out of the norm to be practiced before agriculture.
I’m not arguing agriculture and the nuclear family is evil but we can’t ignore that fact that women have been oppressed and treated as objects and since agriculture it has become prevalent. This kind of thinking is far from gone, as displayed in this post.
Also, calling tens of thousands of women’s hard work and carriers a farce is extremely degrading and entirely untrue. It is very apparent women do not wish to be kept to the house and have every right to all the opportunities men do.

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‘Sex at dawn’ is primarily ideological act, the science comes there as a mercenary to support already pre-set ideologies of the guy.
In any community with more complex structure some sort of hierarchy comes into play. And biological motivations simply urge men to monopolize sexual access, and women to monopolize resource provision and best genes, one of mechanism (much older than agriculture) reflecting that is (sexual) jealousy.
The crucial thing why you can’t compare ancient hunter-gatherers with current mental state is level of individuation. The sense of belonging all together in the small tight communities and being part of natural cycles versus strongly perceived uniqueness of every single person now, going hand in hand with uniqueness of the particular sexual relationship. If the intimacy is unique experience of two unique beings, there’s no place for sharing it as resource in the community.

Re ‘Sex at dawn’ also comes to mind Marjorie Shostak with ‘Nisa, the Kung woman’, which is more like casuistic – the author, being feminist, obviously wanted to prove the very similar about the sexuality in hunter-gatherer communities, but what she describes is exactly what is somehow left out from the idealized ‘hippie orgy’ imagery of community shared sex, as some paradise-like state – jealousy, drama, abortion, violence, desperate pining for ex alpha. Because all this is inherent part of the egalitarian sexual paradise of Christopher Ryan’s.

Never heard about Aeta people, thank you, will check. But I guess we are in agreement, that one isolated instance doesn’t prove much, and it’s then only and only assumptions.

Agriculture going hand in hand with oppression of women and treating them as objects is a common trope, but simply not true. Ancient Egypt as agricultural society par excellence and status of women there. For example. Or Etruscans.

Farmers’ life is tough, and you need each other, you can’t continuously treat bad and oppress someone you need as a mate to make it through. Especially older women have great level of respect, and control over family life, in agricultural societies. But they don’t have it for trying to be men, but for fulfilling the female role.

It’s good to distinguish between necessary checks on female behaviour (that due to stronger proneness to following any impulse, fluidness of attitudes, changing moods, can be destructive for stability of the family or community) and oppression.

I consider it a farce to be ‘hard working woman’ proudly pursuing her career, putting energy into questionable achievements, while hiring other people to take care of her children.

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// just leaving this here, interesting:
watch?v=eFt6XRyQhD8

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I don’t doubt that feminism and liberalism have redefined roles and largely destroyed the family unit. But there are still women who make good mothers. My Mom is deceased, but she was the best darn mother anyone could ask for. Offer me all the wealth and riches on earth, or to have my mother back, and there is no choice. I’d turn everything down to have her back with me.

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Well Roosh, you are nothing if not amusing. I hope you and your followers father many daughters. And I hope every one of them is highly intelligent, with great aspirations. And then you can look at your beautiful girl children and tell them, no, I’m sorry, your body precludes you from being a successful scientist or a doctor, an engineer or a college professor. Your role is to stay at home and make babies, a beautiful baby factory, because it’s what nature intended. And watch the light leave their eyes. Watch the sadness take over. Watch them struggle with your message, confused by trying to resign themselves to your message and ignore their own sense of self. Maybe they’ll push out some miserable children they resent, and the legacy will continue. And watch your progeny and their offspring wither and die inside, only to feel alive when they are telling you they hate your guts. Because they most certainly will come to hate your guts.

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that is not his message and your argument is foolish at best. being a doctor, scientist and a mother/wife etc are not mutually exclusive…. moreover labor is a curse. in a crowded subway in the morning how many people do you see smiling on their way to work if work was that great?

Secondly the boyfriend system has failed women. by not marrying you sleep around resulting in transfer of spirits with each guy you sleep with!

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Ive met many women who are doctors scientists and are also mothers and wives wtf are you on about it not being mutually exclusive?

Both men and women can enjoy or hate their work. It depends on if tht is what they really want from life. I have a female friend who is a professional doctor who enjoys her work. Oh she is also HAPPILY MARRIED with a child. So the notion that women cannot have a professional career and still be happily married with children is moot..

Boyfriend system? Lol. Like the PUA system hasnt failed men. Id like to ask you how many fufilling relationships youve had since living a PUA lifestyle? Do you got joy Do women want to be with you? Dont tell me you havent transferred any spirits with all the women you slept with let alone STDs. You are just as bad as these so called sluts.

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‘mutually exclusive’ means that the options exclude each other, either – or.
‘not mutually exclusive’ = opposite of mutually exclusive.

John said: “being a doctor, scientist and a mother/wife etc are not mutually exclusive”.

You reacted: “Ive met many women who are doctors scientists and are also mothers and wives wtf are you on about it not being mutually exclusive?”

Wtf are you on about with such response?
When you are in agreement.

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I am amazed at how many comments are angry at the thought that surprise motherhood and homemaking and giving pleasure and a warm welcoming home to her family make a woman valuable, or that it is completely natural. A lot of mental illness we see today seems a direct result of Many people going completly against nature. And those women who are homemakers and mothers and wives and those men who are providers and protectors of those women and children and the builders and maintainers of civilized society are put down while degenerate hedonist selfish heathens Try to shame instead of perhaps writing a blog of their own. All because these days women want to wear pants and men want to wear dresses. It’s refreshing to see a place here where some people make sense and live according to the way nature designed.

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Oh the irony. How is it that a rapist misogynistic manwhore like you could have any idea what makes a woman happy? How many women have you made happy btw boy? How many out of all the women you raped,lied to and ruined to get into their pants have you made your wife ? You cant even make one women happy. Nor do you know how to treat a woman with dignity or respect or love.. I honestly feel sorry for you. You think you are a man who knows what women need but you really are just an insecure boy who plays games with women so you can feel superior to them. A real man loves respect provides and protects the woman he loves not use her as a domestic baby machine sex slave… Thank God I have a man of integrity and honour who adores and protects me.. That is the kind of man I give myself completely to 😁

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Madam,
(leaving personal lifestyle of the author of the article completely aside now, since I don’t know him, and his public persona can be very different than real him.., or probably not.., anyway, whatever…)
just couple of general comments:
– the message and the messenger are two different things. Therefore, since the situation here is not proportionate (none of the commenters’ lives are so publicly exposed as the author’s, so there’s incomparably less to hold and use against any of them from their life and actions in the discussion), the focus of the discussion should be maybe solely on the content of the article and the ideas presented there.
– having wide experience of whatever kind with women can give the author very good insight into how they actually tick
– if you are aware of any particular crime (rape), you ought to report it. If you are not, but still you say what you say, it can be seen as false accusation.
– women have agency. (Especially when they are strong and independent.) And responsibility for whom they choose to sleep with. How many of the women you refer to do you think wanted to become a wife, when they spread their legs?

P.S. You are upvoting your own comment? Cool smile

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Lol, men that are threatened this much by women with careers and have to work this hard to get laid clearly have small dicks and no clue how to use them properly.

Every man I’ve met who has very masculine chemical levels knows how to pleasure a woman and would never feel emasculated simply because his woman was working.

Sorry but we don’t need to figure out our biology in this case, you guys who drop your masculinity so easily do.

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Is Roosh running out of material again?
Nothing against him, but this is just the same thing he has posted a few times before.

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This crap is stupid for further comment.

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As usual Roosh posts an article that led to women getting butthurt and spamming the comment sections with claims of him being a misogyonist,being afraid of a strong independent woman,how they don’t need men,how his followers have small penises (which is completely irrelevant), and other bullshit statements feminist make when they can’t make a rational argument to save their lives. Even though their are more women in the workforce now a days that doesn’t change the biological fact that men still view women this way even to this day because nine times out of ten when a man sees a attractive woman he is not thinking about what career she has he is thinking about what she looks like naked and fantasizes about pounding her pussy out. That’s a cold hard fact of life that you ladies have to deal with or your deluding yourself to think otherwise.

Also it’s weird how these chicks are so quick to rage at Roosh for posting an article like this but Islamic nations like Saudi Arabia treats and views women the same way Roosh just described within this in terms of what their roles are within their society like their reproductive sex,child rearing,and homemaking but gets completely silent or make up bullshit excuses when the topic pops up.

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You have a dick. Don’t tell me how to live my life. Just because I have a uterus that doesn’t make me entittled to have kids. I hate children. They look like former President Eisenhower with a potato head and they’re annoying. I quote, “a woman cannot be happy or even content with life if she elects not to reproduce, or raise children, or be a homemaker” (paragraph seven). I would not be happy following your bull shit standards.You are a man, don’t give me shit about how to live my life. I want a career. I have the ability to think rationally. And clearly you don’t, because you felt the need to write a fucking blog post telling the opposite sex how to live their life, when it’s none of your business. It doesn’t effect you. That’s like me getting mad at you for not liking the same music I do. “Not only women are suffering, but men are suffering too, because they are being forced to interact with broken women who deny their biology. Until we have women embracing their biological roles, this needless suffering will continue”( paragraph eight). I will not be broken by not having kids. You don’t have any right to tell me or any other woman how we live our lives. Your post praises oppression on women’s rights. Now here in America, the land of equal right and opportunity, that’s frowned upon. So pack your bags and get the fuck out of here.

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“…Said the broken, angry, purposeless woman

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I knew there was someone else out there with some pro-nature commonsense. Thanks Rooshv.

Anyone who disagrees belongs to either one of these 3 categories:

– Gay

– Feminist

– Raised by Feminist

– Ruled by Feminists

– On the payroll of the architects of the ‘Liberal New World Order’

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you can’t count

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Huh, has it actually crossed your minds that if women really wanted NOTHING more than to have children and be housewives, they actually WOULD have children and be housewives?

The other thing is, so what if biologically we are meant to reproduce? Human is a slightly more complex animal than a bacteria. Using computers is against biology too, I’m sure no caveman played any computer games. Yet you somehow have no problem with it (and, maybe you haven’t noticed, you don’t actually need a dick to use a computer either).

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This is the post that I have read on this site that I agree with most, and I’ve been binging on it since I found it yesterday. Every sentence I nodded with agreement. That being said, I am a product of our society and enjoy having safe drunk sex out of entertainment/boredom for sure. I just don’t feel like trying to change the world so I try to have as much fun as I can. Which fortunately is still a lot and by the time it really turns into nazi germany I’ll be old or dead anyways, hopefully, so.. f it. I do agree with every word of this post though.

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and couples with babies have way less sex, thats a fact. cool that a former? pick up artist can see all this clearly, but your whole career wouldnt have happened if you got married and had a kid at 16 like you are biologically supposed to, let’s not miss that point.

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I mean unless you wanted to be a total scumbag of course wink Which I respect that you apparently do not.

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well unless we went REALLY back to our ancestors and had a few alpha males accumulate huge harems that all lived in their palaces, so they could knock one up then move onto another in the meantime.. Do we really want to go there? Where do you guys draw the line? I’m not trolling, I totally agree with the content of this post, these are just additional thoughts that contextualize this information in my head as I think about it and am curious what people think.

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Now I’m 100% convinced this tool who writes this junk is paid by someone to push an agent against women’s rights and equality. This is exactly what’s wrong with our society. This kind of sick stuff is not even found in the most patriarchal 3rd world countries

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I agree with this the natural role of a woman is to have children and take care of the home. I can’t think of anything that would make me happier than being a stay at home wife and mother. I get so much pride and happiness being able to take care of our son all day, keep our house looking clean and comfortable, cooking dinner in time for my husband to get home from work, and then putting our son to bed so my husband and I can have our alone time. I feel completely fulfilled.