No experience in life can take from you without also giving, and no experience can give without taking. One occurs on the surface and is easily visible, but the other takes more reflection, helping you identify the truth, meaning, and value of your life. I had a recent experience in Turkey that did this for me.

In late August I was in the resort city of Alanya, Turkey, a place that was supposed to give me a refreshing break from Eastern Europe and its women. I booked the eleven day trip soon after getting dumped by Anna, with the idea of banging slutty Scandinavian girls on vacation, but I probably did this as a response to some confusing emotions about what I really wanted from women.

The environment of Alanya for banging, it turned out, was the worst I’ve seen since visiting Bolivia back in 2007. It was worse than Washington DC, Copenhagen, and Riga, cities I’ve spared no scorn for. It was so bad I tried to change my flight to leave sooner, but since it was the absolute peak of summer, all flights back home to Ukraine were full.

The negatives of Turkey were numerous:

  • Complete inaccessibility of young Turkish girls. They were continually guarded by men or family members.
  • Nuclear bomb of horny Turkish men who approached any foreign girl regardless of her beauty.
  • Loud, cheesy nightlife with 4 guys for every 1 girl.
  • Low quality Scandinavian girls.
  • Extreme heat that barely tapered at night.


I knew I’d have a hill to climb in Turkey since I look Turkish (my bloodline is half Iranian and half Armenian), but I grossly underestimated how bad of a responses I’d get. I was treated by girls like a t-shirt or kebab vendor, just another brown man to brush off for the day. It didn’t help that Turkish men had great clown game, and were applying it with passion on girls I wouldn’t touch.

Even worse is that I went solo. On the handful of interactions I made progress on, I couldn’t isolate in the end. Rolling solo in a regular city isn’t so bad, but in a resort location it was the death knell. In eleven days I got nothing, and to add insult to injury, I got some type of infection that holed me up in a little hotel room for several days watching music videos and counting down to when I could return to the relative poosy paradise of Ukraine. It was the worst vacation I’ve ever taken.

If you’ve been reading me for the past couple of years, you’ll have noticed I’m not exactly sure as to the best way to proceed. Combined with the fact that I’ve accomplished what I had set out to do as dreamed by my 25-year-old self, it’s no surprise I’m lacking in direction. My experience in Turkey, along with fleeting clues I’ve recently processed in Russia, Poland, and Ukraine, has made that direction much more clear. Here is what I’m now sure of:

  • I no longer have the heart or will to do bang or flag missions. I’m not that pleased when I succeed or disappointed when I fail, meaning it no longer brings much value to my life.
  • I’m not interested in traveling alone. I’ve done it for so long, to so many countries, that I’ve passed the point of diminishing return in what it can provide me. It doesn’t help that any new country I visit simply reminds me of bits and pieces of previous countries.
  • I must only “travel” to scout out a location for semi-permanent living, to make a legally required border run, or to share an experience with a close male friend or female lover.
  • I want easy sex and a hundred notches a year from beautiful girls like any other guy, but I can no longer sacrifice quality for quantity. I’m unable to lower my standards even when inebriated. In Turkey I lowered my standards the first two nights but my game wasn’t congruent, and afterwards I felt ashamed at myself for pursuing such low talent. The notching phase of my life is over.
  • I prefer Eastern European girls above all overs. I did like Latin girls in the past, have banged a couple Asian girls, one black girl, and even one Indian girl, but currently have no desire or curiosity to bang them again. While some Turkish girls were very pretty, my boner is less for them than their dainty European equivalent. I plan to spend the bulk of my remaining days in Eastern Europe.
  • I need mini-relationships for companionship as much as access to pussy. Loneliness is getting harder to tolerate. I want someone to pass the time with once or twice a week, to brighten up the calm of my normal work week. Male friendship can fill this role also, but it’s often harder to make male friends in foreign cities than to make love with girls.

It’s not enough to state your goals, work towards them, and call it a day. Experience changes your desires and your desires affect your experiences, reacting with each other in an imperfect and unbalanced equation that can leave you absolutely sure of your direction and path one year, but lost the next. A jarring experience like the one I recently had in Turkey forced me to evaluate everything while I sat in my hotel room counting down the days until I could leave. These meditations told me to stop being so spoiled, appreciate the lifestyle that I’ve been able to build up, and to accept that the grass I’ve already found in Eastern Europe is in all likelihood the greenest based on who I am as a man.

The big problems of my life have been solved, and until those new problems appear, life will now become about receiving pleasure from dutiful work, hobbies that challenge me, and connections from both men and women. Thank you, Turkey, for helping me understand that.

Don’t Miss: Are Turkish Girls Worth It?


  1. Hormuz October 22, 2014 at 9:09 am

    Uncle Roosh,
    If your book sales had not taken off like they did and you were stuck in DC at your currer age what would you do?

    What if you were an incel right now at this age how would you handle it?

    1. Anon. October 22, 2014 at 11:00 pm

      It shines through that Roosh is deeply affected by the loss of his recent girl.
      That’s something that doesn’t really go away. It is the male equivalent of being an alpha widow.

      1. ATC October 23, 2014 at 6:40 pm

        I wonder why Roosh doesn’t try to make big money?

        He could easily make high six figures if not $1M+ as a dating coach. Why he does not do this (at least that we know of) is beyond me.

      2. Ar10 October 23, 2014 at 8:59 pm

        He could also go to the foreign bride letter writing angle like
        They charge clowns $10/pop to write letters to those model looking girls. It’s crazy-Id rather get on a plane and cold approach than get played like that.

        I think he suffers from low t
        and/or depression.
        Roosh can a guy get t therapy in ua? I could probably use some

      3. hernan cortez November 20, 2014 at 10:45 pm

        It may be a different skill set. Being a good driver, doesn’t mean you’ll be a good driving instructor. Being good with women, doesn’t mean you’ll be a good instructor on how to pick up women.

        I’m not saying Roosh couldn’t do it. But there are lots of competition out there and cost and marketing and then add on the fact that there are people in the same field with NATIONAL TV SHOWS or who been on national tv shows like doctor phil or letterman ie. ross jefferies or mystery competing in the same space.

        Besides finding clients who will pay, and either renting space commercially, it would also most likely force him to lvie in the usa full time, ruining his own chances of gaming long term attractive ukranian women. Lets face it, if you want to open up a dating coach business, you go to a place that is poosy hell; where you can get alot of clients.

        Also you have to put together curriculum and plot out things nicely for people. You also have to be quick on your feet and provide instant answers to any questions that come up. Dating coach not for the faint of heart.

      4. Veni Vidi Vici November 10, 2014 at 4:05 am

        How is PUA being Alpha? I have given this some thought and I more respect for a men that pays Prostitutes, PUA’s are the Ultimate Betas because they change who they are for the approval and attention of women with a slim chance of sex, Changing who I am is something I would never do, and hopefully no other self respecting men would either. Now I agree with Roosh that men should work to improve themselves but so should women. An Alpha would just pay for sex and be done with while keeping his sense of self.
        Other PUA flaws: failure to address women’s negative behaviors.
        Expensive: After you paid for the club, drinks, dates, etc. going to the a brothel especially overseas was probably cheaper anyway.
        PUA builds off attraction so the woman is choosing you first, I doubt any PUA course can help you if a woman has no attraction to you.

  2. Peter Pan October 22, 2014 at 9:22 am

    Fuck it. Just get married to some Eastern European virgin girl with a bubble butt who is 17 and call a day. The loneliness problem is only going to get worse. Find a lifelong companion.

    1. lazy to fill in October 22, 2014 at 11:27 am

      What makes you think that a 17 years old Ukrainian 6+ with a bubble butt (bubble butts are rarity in Ukraine btw) will marry him?

      1. The Aquarian October 22, 2014 at 2:29 pm

        it’s a numbers game. if you approach enough women> one will say yes!

      2. seth datta October 22, 2014 at 3:01 pm

        who says THEY want to get married at that age?
        and mabye a lifelong relationship is marriage, but the legal ceremony will end up costing you?

      3. Visionquest October 23, 2014 at 3:26 pm

        “who says THEY want to get married at that age?”

        That, plus it would seem east europe is westernizing fast. Getting hitched is not a good idea in this life.

      4. ChimpGod October 23, 2014 at 4:39 pm

        Find one sure, and have a LTR.. Don’t get married. Trust me, they would marry you in Eastern Europe.. Unless you are broke as fuck. If you have some money, or retirement, they would gladly marry you.. Many girls over there are looking for security/stability, which most men can’t provide.

      5. 7.62x51 October 23, 2014 at 9:00 pm

        What kind of money do they need/year for this CG?

      6. splooge October 23, 2014 at 7:46 pm

        get her to do s heavy quats for like 3 months.
        didnt know roosh got with asian girls. at least try the phillipines before retiring in ee.

    2. asshole October 22, 2014 at 7:06 pm

      Marriage isn’t going to cure the ‘loneliness problem’. Being lonely is a state of mind. Personally, the most miserable and lonely guys i know are married. Never use marriage as a cure to some problem you’re experiencing. A stable woman should be an enhancement not more nothing less.

      1. AK 1974 October 22, 2014 at 9:05 pm

        Good point man.

        How do you conclusively cure the level of loneliness that causes you pain?

      2. TyKo Steamboat October 22, 2014 at 9:48 pm

        Wow. Seriously great words, asshole. Well said.

    3. TyKo Steamboat October 22, 2014 at 9:39 pm

      I thank God every day that I don’t crave the ultra addictive drug known as “Female Companionship”. I like & enjoy women but in moderation. I have a friend my same age that is craving & dying for a girlfriend rite now. I remind him every day how lucky he truly is.
      Some guys just aren’t cut-out for a life of peace, quiet, loneliness & solitude. When you are in a serious relationship, your schedule then becomes her schedule. Temporary mini-relationships are the way to go until you’re 40. Then seek out the 25 y.o. Slavic hottie.

    4. Uncle Elroy October 23, 2014 at 8:00 pm

      You’re in the wrong country for that kind of build- that sounds more Colombia, Romania, Brazilian, Argentinian, Mexican or Hungarian.

      Ukraine for skinny petite girls.

  3. Daniel October 22, 2014 at 10:03 am

    Rolling solo on a summer resort is one of the most boring things you can do, I wonder why a man of your experience did it.
    When I travel solo I usually do road trips. Much more entertaining, and you meet a lot of people on the way. The possibilities of getting laid are the same, considering that on a summer vacation you must go for the same day bang anyway, since pretty girls are too distracted by too many cock options.

  4. General Stalin October 22, 2014 at 10:03 am

    The predictions of a male desires as he progresses through adulthood coming to fruition right before our eyes. I have little doubt that within 5 years from now (maybe even less) you will be looking towards long-term companionship, settling down, and the desire for children. Not that I think you need the affirmation, but I’d like to state that I think you’re doing it right and have lived a great life thus far by pursuing your personal goals and passions in life, traveling and experiencing different cultures and flavors of life, and avoiding commitment while you navigate yourself, your desires, and your personal existential evolution.

    1. seth datta October 22, 2014 at 5:33 pm

      i’d think he’d get bored of settling down with one girl in a monogamous relationship, but if he wanted to go down that route that’s fine. Muslim society has the 3-4 wives thing. What kind of girls you can keep vs what you have to offer to tempt them to stay (and be solely yours)?

    2. Tim Lando October 22, 2014 at 7:24 pm

      I agree.

  5. Asf October 22, 2014 at 10:20 am

    The thing that’s sometimes hard to appreciate is that we change with time. Who we become is not who we were. So making decisions based on what makes you happy today can lead to wrong turns because those judgements are wrong for tomorrow.

    But man must come to this realization from experience even though others may have predicted this path beforehand.

  6. pua to the next level October 22, 2014 at 10:36 am

    I see two scenarios for Roosh in Ukraine:
    -“Right sector” will track him down and will beat his sand-nigga brains out.
    -He will have an emotional breakdown and will either try to commit suicide or something of this sort (you can see signs of it in this post).

    35 years old,unable to lock down even a Ukrainian 6.Pathetic.

  7. invisiblehand85 October 22, 2014 at 11:15 am


  8. Andrew Richardson October 22, 2014 at 11:19 am

    What a sad and pathetic life you live.

    All your “notches” were completely empty experiences. You’re going to be a lonely and sad 50-year-old man, whose only accomplishments are having bedded a few hundred women.

    To your credit, you’re starting to acquire a bit of wisdom. Please keep updating your blog. I want to see how this trainwreck ends.

    1. John October 22, 2014 at 11:31 am

      This attitude is really up for debate.

      What’s a “normal guy’s” accomplishment? That he spawned a couple of children?

      Anything can be downplayed.

      Notches were a fulfilling challenge and it helped him grow as a man.

      Having good game does require mental skills that help you grow in every way.

      Now he can move on to the next big thing for himself if he wants to.

      1. Derschel November 18, 2014 at 4:08 pm

        “Notches were a fulfilling challenge and it helped him grow as a man.”

        Male hamsterizing. That is exactly what women tell themselves about their notches.

      2. Tommy Hass November 23, 2014 at 9:36 pm

        They’re women, you idiot.

      3. Rupert December 21, 2014 at 1:19 am

        You do realize men and women are different, right?

        Men bedding lots of women is generally healthy for men. Aside from mental, social and sexual benefits, there is also evidence that it provides physical benefits.

        The opposite is true for women. Opening their legs for every Tom, Dick and Harry that comes along only ends in negatives for them, across all areas.

      4. GUEST November 21, 2015 at 3:33 am

        >implying people sleeping with hundreds of people is normal

        never met one, male or female, who was mentally stable and genuinely nice to be around who did that.
        it effects the women more but it hits the man too.

    2. mimicracra October 22, 2014 at 11:33 am

      I can explain this. The reason for this depression and whining is inability to lock down an HB. Being dumped by a desperate ukrainian 6, being ignored by anything above 7…Emotional dead end.
      Once you get into a relationship with a Hb “out of your league” (always pushing up) takes other colours

    3. JR October 22, 2014 at 12:56 pm

      There’s no need to tell Roosh or anyone else bad things and speak negativity into their lives. You sound like the frustrated public school teacher who tells every 12yo kid that annoys her that they’ll never amount to anything but a garbageman blah blah blah when garbage men in some areas make more than “teachers”/bureaucrats who push Fabian socialist scientific management based day slave route task style collectivist brainwashing to the proletariat children to condition them for a lifetime of slavery to the corporate-state bankster system.

      Another thing Roosh is not thinking about is all the spiritual baggage from forniacating and sharing spiritual energy with all those different women. It’s called soul ties and the blood of Jesus Christ can cleanse and wash away the weight and negativity of sins by repenting and asking him into your life. Roosh you need God and real love in your life man and I need to get my money right and fly to a land to live and find a solid, traditional, feminine wife. I’m not built for “game” but I am for geographic relocation as Im sick of the entitled, arrogant, feminist brainwashed quasi-masculine sensibilities of American girls which is why I read this blog as I like how you are open about your intellectualism and cultural experiences. You’ve got me wanting to marry a Colombian or Polish traditional, godly Catholic woman. I’m disgusted by American culture- all the selfish, materialistic, uneducated, hateful, isolated emptiness-its the price a Nation pays for abandoning God and His teachings and its very painful to live in a place like this burnI trust that God can show me the best path.

      1. John October 22, 2014 at 3:29 pm

        There are church driven dating sites you may want to check out, even in the US.

      2. bear October 22, 2014 at 10:23 pm

        God bless you in your journey. I discovered game, as a Christian. I put it into practice for awhile, but the spirit of God wouldn’t allow me to live that lifestyle and still have inner peace. I had a variety of women going on when I met my now current wife. She had just become a Christian. She’s a very kind, loving domestic wife. I am blessed. There is still hope here in the West to find a keeper to settle down with, but undoubtedly its challenging. Unfortunately, girls who grew up in the church tend to be as bad if not worse than those who did not

      3. JR October 22, 2014 at 10:46 pm

        I agree-God is awesome and I value human beings and dont want to sin against them or God. I never wanted to flip women like cars like many people get into-its a toxic lifestyle. The Church today has lost its power and influence because its just like the World and the Church leaders dont fight smart against the elitist evil who control they present economic-political-social system. Its a chore to date unfeminine women-sometimes I think the answer is getting out of America as much as I love my guns-I cant take crabby, unsweet women-they’re gross. Its like dealing with a half man creature and it sickens me.

      4. Earl Henson November 5, 2014 at 8:58 pm

        The Catholic church which may provide you with the woman you are looking for is the SAME church that 2% of priests rape little boys while the other 98% of priests and parishioners stand by and say ‘that’s terrible.’

    4. Deebos October 22, 2014 at 3:41 pm

      As opposed to a sad, lonely, divorced 50 year old man saddled with CS and alimony who lives in his sisters basement and rails against marriage but shacks up with the first tail that comes along because his lonliness cripples him and she needs a baby daddy?


    5. TyKo Steamboat October 22, 2014 at 10:11 pm

      Hahaha. Looks like words from a guy who is married to an American woman & has a couple kids that hate him. (Accurate guess?) That would be a sad life in my view.

    6. Hipstersstink October 23, 2014 at 3:49 pm

      At least the dude has the awareness and confidence to recognise these issues and meet them head on.

      I bet you are incapable of that – guy who sits in the dark and waits for someone to admit their failings so he can point and laugh.

  9. g status October 22, 2014 at 11:35 am

    Great story about how you’ve changed. I think it’s all great. Looking forward to see what the new you brings.

  10. Inside UoM October 22, 2014 at 11:40 am

    Look it makes complete sense that you’re experiencing this phase, you’ve been in the game for over 12 years and have done a lot. Chronic player fatigue would undoubtedly take down most men by this time.

    But spare a thought of all the younger guys that admire your writing and read it, don’t forget your peak player days or extreme highs, and focus solely on your current lifestyle. You probably already know this but a lot of your writing acts as great inspiration for younger guys.

    1. D October 23, 2014 at 8:08 pm

      It is true Roosh. Some of us aspire to be half the man you are.

  11. FormerCanadian October 22, 2014 at 1:03 pm

    And why are y’all soooo surprised at the ratio of 3.5 males to 1 female???? That’s a completely NORMAL or even GOOD ratio in ANY Toronto nightclub. At some Toronto club you might as well get a ratio of 10 sex hungry and desperate Canadian males to 1 female and it is considered NORMAL in Canada.
    At least Turkey has a nice sea in summer, the water is warm and beaches are nice. Toronto has a cold lake and dirty beaches and water is usually polluted since lake Ontario “collects” all the garbage from other 4 Great Lakes being the last one in their “chain”.
    Whereas Alanya has very nice beaches and you could at least have enjoyed them while being in Turkey.
    I’ll try to find some photos of Toronto nightclubs to back up my words with facts.

    1. seth datta October 22, 2014 at 2:56 pm

      I thought the Canadian women i met had more class than UK and US women. But I do concede that may be a small sample, and that in general the quality and quantity may be dire. But if the ratio is that low, then where are they? I mean, I know there are 104 males to every 100 females aged 20-40 in the west (with immigration, that number may be higher, so some/many men go without for sure).

      Hopefully they’re not at home getting stuffed on food.

      1. FormerCanadian October 22, 2014 at 4:22 pm

        Canadian women are exactly the same crap as UK or US ones. May be even with more sense of self entitlement, ignorance and ME ME ME FIRST attitude.
        Where are Canadian women? It’s not women, it’s MALES who make the ratio 10 to 1! Canadian cities are full of desperate and sex hungry males who flock to all kinds of watering holes in desperate attempts to get ANY kind of pussy thus even the ugliest female in Canada will always have a line up of desperate males willing to go 10 extra miles in order to please her.

      2. Hipstersstink October 23, 2014 at 3:56 pm

        Seconded. Except I would say it’s easier to find English women with more class than in Canada (don’t get your undies in a bunch – this isn’t saying much). But I also live in London. Canadian women are some of the most foul-mouthed, self-entitled, sea donkeys you could imagine. Why is this? Just read the above. There are THAT many desperate, pussy-worshiping and hungry dudes in Canada’s major cities. Women can pretty much behave however they want. It is astonishing.

      3. FormerCanadian October 23, 2014 at 4:22 pm

        This: ” Canadian women are some of the most foul-mouthed, self-entitled, sea donkeys you could imagine. Why is this? Just read the above. There are THAT many desperate, pussy-worshiping and hungry dudes in Canada’s major cities. Women can pretty much behave however they want!”
        Man, you can’t even imagine how a night club district looks like Friday and Saturday night in Toronto and other major Canadian cities…. Hordes of sex hungry and desperate males are roaming the streets and club hopping in a vain hope to get whatever pussy they might encounter! Quality? What quality?? Even the ugliest whale of a woman with attitude will have a line up of desperate males willing to do all the magic tricks just to get a piece of her attention.
        A lot of people here blame Jews, mainstream media ect for the current state of things in North American dating whereas I keep saying-BLAME MALES AND MALES ONLY!! They are the ones who’ve allowed all this to happen, lowered their selection criteria and standards and decided to settle for the lowest of the low just to dip that fucking dick into whatever pussy comes their way… And that’s the saddest part, my friend… Things ain’t gonna change as long as North American males do not change their behavior, man up and start being MALES and not pussified creatures with absolutely NO self esteem.

      4. Hipstersstink October 24, 2014 at 3:13 pm

        That is why I’ll never go back to Canada. Anytime I hear a girl with an American or Canadian accent in London I cringe.

  12. Jenn October 22, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    Middle Eastern guy in his late 30s, hanging out in a nightclub by himself, trying (and failing) to take home a girl.

    Stereotypes exist for a reason.

    1. asshole October 22, 2014 at 7:11 pm

      Mid 30s, he’s 35. He was in the ME (Turkey is part of it). I assume they’re used to Middle Eastern guys in clubs in the Middle East.

    2. splooge October 23, 2014 at 9:36 pm

      didnt know that was a middle eastern stereotype. Usually I picture rich ass lebanese,persian or saudi kids throwing up cash like some playboy baller.

  13. sadfasf October 22, 2014 at 1:31 pm

    Before you settle down completely, you should take a flight to Ethiopia and experience more black girls. People say good things about the place.

    Also people get an associative memory. Most people’s ‘types’ come from previous people they’ve had good experiences with.

  14. Deebos October 22, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    Lonliness is both the gift and the pain of game. On one hand it motivates us to achieve. On the other it reminds us that even with success, there is a decidely empty feeling to the chase.

    However, I will always feel sorry for the men who play life safely and settle for the typical American woman.

    As for me, give me the excitement of the chase and the loneliness, they cannot exist without each other.

    1. seth datta October 22, 2014 at 2:48 pm

      But if most women are damaged (like many men, due to culture) and, Roosh having partaken of that culture and becoming shaped somewhat by it, what is the solution? In the same way sleeping with many men damages most women, the opposite is also true. How can he forget the nature of women when he has slept with so many? And repeating a short term relationship from scratch is pointless. There is no point settling down, oftentimes, as the women (even virgins) don’t want a relationship, he has not built himself up as a provider in his character, and he would not be satisfied with most and perhaps all women due to his extensive experience.

      Our ancestors knew marriage was not easy but made a society prosperous and relatively happy and secure. We have been tricked to abandon all of this over the last 3 generations at least, for ‘freedom’. But freedom is not free as our rights are taken away due to a broken society, and people’s choices do impact others and their future life.

      IMHO, while the ‘white woman allure’ may be there for some, it is often a poisoned chalice due to the culture (not the race) and they are brainwashed from birth to be obnoxious home wreckers. This is worst in the UK/US/Canada/Aus/NZ/Ireland, but then Europe can still pose its problems. Even if you find a virgin, as you have posted Roosh, they just want some quick sex and then to move on. Where are you going to find a girl for keeps? Would you accept the boredom of a steady girlfriend (since if you spin multiple plates, you’ll end up being dissatisfied yet again and the relationship will burn out). I think as a man gets older, depending on the thirst, many men don’t have it in them to keep approaching, and even PUAs like Paul Janka, I suspect got married as he saw that eventually he would become too old to compete, have to lower his standards, and even that the game is getting harder these days with women’s demands, the law and even just the quality of women tanking.

      I do think most sane men of any colour need to leave the ‘six’ Anglo countries I mentioned above as they will see the most draconian laws enforced in future before they collapse painfully, a few decades from now. The problem is, where is the magical paradise? I guess you have to find a place and create it for yourself, and bring/attract the people you want there too. If human society is based upon relationships before all else, the ultimate game is building a mini-society that upholds what you believe in and not what conforms to someone else’ (oftentimes sick) agenda. Not everyone is going to agree with you or have your back. You might have to lose friends, family… But it is WORTH IT if you can pull some of it off.

      Last of all, I know most people are not religious, which is fine. All religions have had truths and many things twisted to be lies. But a search for why we are here and God and how we treat our fellow human beings does not hurt. It is a shame in this consumerist society that we are fed false answers and brainwashed to be a certain way, because we are all not so different. We are taught to be divided and conquered. We are cut off from spirituality/God in a world where we work for scraps but we forget/do not even come to realise that we may be here for a bigger purpose, or assume we’ve got it all covered, as we keep running harder on the treadmill towards our own demise.

      1. American Woman November 21, 2015 at 3:37 am

        This is an old post, but I am as my name suggests (American Woman). I agree with you wholeheartedly and I am moved by your passion for God and His presence to be in society.

        I agree that American girls aren’t sweet or feminine. Though I admit, I am guilty of doing some things too (like being rough in speech or thought, ect); but here, it is encouraged for women to behave that way and to act aggressive and compete with men. It’s very frustrating.

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  16. Jordan October 22, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    I loved this post! Very thought provoking….

  17. Lonely October 22, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    If you are lonely get a good dog.

    He will always be there for you and he won’t be a emotional parasite like a woman.

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  19. holberg October 22, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    maybe you should have focussed on visting culture in Turkey instead of chasing girls

  20. SeuthestheThird October 22, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    Sex is overrated and it has always been. If you shape your life around it, it would become meaningless.

    But you’re doing more than that, RoK is by far your greatest achievement and if you work on it to become a significant movement, you might even go down the history books.

    My advise is, as you’re getting older now, try to change your business model from Bang to Yang (if you know what I mean).

    Best regards

  21. David Alvaro October 22, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    Poor Roosh. He no longer even has the heart to pretend to be able to score with chicks. It just got too tiresome to act like his fake game stuff ever got him laid.

    1. pauldrake October 22, 2014 at 6:58 pm

      Why do you hang around here? Doesn’t some left wing politician wherever you live need your beta blue boy help?

      1. David Alvaro October 22, 2014 at 9:03 pm

        i’m just a student of insanity, and I’m trying to comprehend this community, and what could possibly bring someone to such a sad, embittered, credulous state of mind to swallow this drivel. People here seem to idolize this Roosh character, this OCD/borderline autistic Iranian-American expat who couldn’t ever get a girl in the States so now travels around economically depressed countries where, by his own account, he only every once in a while is able to get laid. Despite himself acknowledging that his game is pretty weak, and describing himself as someone who doesn’t know anything about anything except game and sports, you people hang on his every word, as though he is some kind of intellectual giant and/or someone who actually knows how to score with women. But he’s neither. So what on earth is the appeal? Is his only skill knowing his audience and being able to precisely pander to what they want to hear, despite it having little to know basis in fact and often clearly not reflecting his own views? Or is it just that, since you are friendless introverts who never so much as talk to real women but like to roleplay as such total alphas that you are above women, you can relate to a loser who can’t score with desperate third-world women but pretends to be a player? Is this really the best figurehead available to you people?

      2. TyKo Steamboat October 22, 2014 at 10:25 pm

        Reads like a man that follows Roosh V pretty closely himself…So whats your appeal, bro. Seems you comment here quite often (Roosh smiles & thanks you) … Also reads like a little man that has never enjoyed the pleasantries of foreign women, which, by the way, are far superior to that of your Yankee women.

        The appeal is that he is a good writer & men that love women but are against the ideals of the brainwashed feministic cultures of the Angelo-Saxon worlds, can learn from his experiences & love the wonderful women of the Baltics, South America, Eastern Europe, Scandinavia, ect.

        He also stands-up for men’s rights via ROK which are being overshadowed every year with time. He is a “man’s man” especially when you consider how he divulges his successes & failures which can then help other men learn with experience.


      3. David Alvaro October 22, 2014 at 10:47 pm

        In other words, he offers hope to other unattractively, hopelessly awkward and unpleasant men who (despite every game and persuasion tactic known to man) are completely unable to convince or cajole an American woman into even a pity fuck that, were they to become ex-pats and embark on long-term sex tourism in economically and socially backward countries, they might eventually find a desperate, gold-digging, illiterate woman who would actually consider having sex with them. Or, at the very least, that they could invent stories about sleeping with these idealized poor foreigners and relate them to this credulous audience, at least having one or more other angry virgins on the internet believe that they are “alphas.”

        Ultimately, this is just my lunatic internet subculture chuckle of the week. I have to say, in general, you guys are a full step beyond My Little Pony enthusiasts in delusion, sexually confusion, a self-defeating way to deal with autism and other social dysfunction, and, for all your lip service to the concept, a complete lack of anything resembling masculinity.

      4. meh October 22, 2014 at 10:53 pm

        I think your Social Justice Warrior girlfriend is mewling for you again. Time for your nightly pegging.

      5. David Alvaro October 22, 2014 at 11:19 pm

        Chin up, dude. It’s never too late. If you can walk away for this asylum and change most everything about yourself, you have a good chance of having sex at least once in your life. I bet you won’t even have to go searching for poor, illiterate gold-diggers in impoverished countries like Roosh.

      6. meh October 22, 2014 at 11:23 pm

        Just a little more lube and maybe it won’t hurt tonight. Although she loves to see you bleed, and you love to make her happy.

      7. David Alvaro October 22, 2014 at 11:36 pm

        Hey, if this fantasy is what it takes for you to be able to jerk off tonight without crying, go for it, buddy. I know the whole penis-in-vagina mechanics are so foreign to you that you can’t even summon the concept for masturbation. Maybe one of your super-alpha virgin buddies from this site will hold you and whisper the doctrines of hypergamy and the evils of educated women while you try to get hard. That’s one thing you can say about you true masculine men’s men: you may not understand women, but you all understand courtesy handjobs.

      8. meh October 22, 2014 at 11:38 pm

        My My the bitch doth protest too much. I suggest ID Glide for best results.

      9. David Alvaro October 22, 2014 at 11:39 pm

        You would know, friend.

      10. meh October 22, 2014 at 11:40 pm

        I thought you said I wasn’t getting any. You can’t have it both ways fucktard.

      11. meh October 22, 2014 at 11:55 pm

        I patiently await your homophobic gay slur response. Where is it, fucktard?

      12. David Alvaro October 23, 2014 at 7:51 pm

        Oh there’s no need for that. Your presence here suggests that you never get sex of any kind, hetero- or homosexual. But you do seem very familiar with the mechanics of inserting things into your rectum. Hey, whatever you need to overcome your self-pity and feelings of inadequacy. I’m not judging. I really support you wannabe alpha celebate types exploring all the options of masturbation, since that’s your only possible sexual outlet. Do you, son.

      13. Nick October 27, 2014 at 8:36 pm


      14. TyKo Steamboat October 22, 2014 at 11:51 pm

        Conclusion is that you’re either a female commentor hiding behind your name, fat & angry.
        Or your dad wasn’t in your life. One of those 2 things.
        I’ve dated many of these Slavic & Baltic flowers in USA & abroad. It’s a rewarding experience.
        Hard to fathom why an actual man would have such a hard time with the writings of another man expressing what many of us have either experienced ourselves or are curious/considering…then after you try, it’s obvious that dating women from Slavic nations is a far better experience. & these women exist in USA too. 🙂 They’re in all major cities & small resort towns.
        Don’t get me wrong… I will bang a Yankee girl that’s a 7 too & I even date them too…on Fridays thru Sundays… 😉
        If you were a man (obvious you’re a female commentor) I’d urge you to go foreign, experience the rush & live the dream! =D

      15. David Alvaro October 23, 2014 at 8:18 pm

        I’m a man from a very stable family, who received a proper education, and has never had any difficulty having sex with beautiful, educated, and independently successful American women. I just think it’s laughable that you guys are desperately trying to rebrand and save face about the fact that your only prospects of sex occur through traveling to impoverished nations to find women desperate to attach themselves to any man with an American passport. If that’s the dream, you have such low aspirations.

      16. TyKo Steamboat October 23, 2014 at 8:50 pm

        Suuuuure you are…riiiiight.

        So if you love your Yankee women so much, “David” then why do you care so much what other mens’ tastes are? Why do you feel compelled to mock other “educated” men that have experienced both Domestic & Foreign women? Because I have, as many of us here, extensive experience with both.

        Take your diploma & enjoy your future Yankee wife after she divorces you & uses it as her toilet paper on her way to taking you for half of whatever you’re worth & enjoy all the grief she puts you through down that same road. Funny how you mock decent men that have actually experienced the lovely women of the East as you surely have no frame of reference because you’re a female commenter.
        “Rebrand” & “Save Face” … wow… David Alvaro you look like a total clown here…hahahahaha

      17. David Alvaro October 23, 2014 at 8:59 pm

        Because that’s literally what this is. Roosh was all about American women until he had to come to terms with the fact that none of them wanted him, and then he pretended to decide that he didn’t want them either. Then he went around Europe, and every country where he was totally rejected, he went around saying that those women were disgusting. He apparently was able to find a few women in Ukraine who fell for his bullshit, so he made it up to be a paradise, but even now he’s losing that and is acting like Ukrainian women are nasty too now. Hey, if the only way you can get laid is to find desperate foreign women, go for it, but quit pretending that you’re doing it for any reason other than the complete rejection you get from all other women.

        You guys are all so caught up in this echo chamber asylum, that when someone who actually has no problem having fulfilling sexual relationships with women inserts his perspective, you are all sure he is a female troll or some kind of Jewish spy plant. Do you ever interact with normal human beings in the real world? Surely a few of you must have jobs, right?

      18. TyKo Steamboat October 23, 2014 at 9:01 pm

        Sure you are….Riiiiight.
        So if you’re such a lover of Yankee women, we’re not going to fight you for them. They’re all yours. I, as many other readers here, have extensive experience with women both domestic & foreign. & if you’ve never dated a woman from the East, then what do you care what other men think? You have no frame of reference. Because you’re an obvious female commenter.

        Experience trumps your “Education”. Enjoy your diploma down the grief-filled path on your way to a divorce after your “beautiful” American woman takes you for half of whatever you’re worth.

        Now I leave you to get the “last word” in as I know you Yankee women like to do.

      19. David Alvaro October 23, 2014 at 9:09 pm

        Right, dude. Men with “extensive experience with women” hang on the insights of an admitted lousy pick-up artist like masters of industry go to adult education classes for business tips. No man who knows how to attract women would come to learn how, every once in a while, Roosh is able to (allegedly) score with a faceless woman from a wartorn and unstable nation. This comment section is a massive collusional LARP session, where everyone consents to not questions everyone else’s claims of masculinity and sexual success, despite the face that the only possible reason a man would be here is (besides to laugh at you all) is that he’s a desperate virgin seeking any angle he could possible find to, just once, see a woman naked.

      20. ATC October 23, 2014 at 11:57 pm

        Your “talk like a straight guy” module needs to be updated to stop using “consents” as a verb. Free advice.

      21. David Alvaro October 24, 2014 at 12:07 am

        Have conversations with real people outside the confines of your self-help therapy sessions with other hostile virgins and you might have a sense of how actual straight guys talk. No matter how much you can convince your fellow inmates that you are a true masculine man, if you never sleep with a woman, you loose sight of how those of us who do speak.

      22. ATC October 24, 2014 at 12:10 am

        received a proper education

        Holy fuck, how did that go?

        Teacher: David, tell the class what you learned about Ukraine.

        “David”: Its women are illiterate gold-diggers!
        Teacher: Aw, you’re so enlightened! What did you learn about Colombia?
        “David”: Its women are idealized desperate illiterates!
        Teacher: A+!

      23. David Alvaro October 24, 2014 at 12:19 am

        I’ve been to Ukraine, and I studied with a number of lovely Ukranian women when I was getting my doctorate. These are not the women Roosh is seeking (too-Americanized, he would say- no chance in hell, they would say). He’s scraping the bottom of a social class desperatte to escape that environment, and mostly (if not completely) striking out. A pretty pathetic aspiration figure.

      24. ATC October 24, 2014 at 12:28 am

        Ukranian women

        Aaand…he doesn’t know how to spell “Ukrainian.”

      25. David Alvaro October 24, 2014 at 7:24 am

        Oh my god, he made a typo! Burn him!

      26. FormerCanadian October 24, 2014 at 8:44 am

        Oh, nice one:-) Please tell me WHERE in Ukraine you’ve been, what city you stayed in for your doctorate and what cities have you visited?:-)
        Patiently awaiting your reply:-) I’m VERY familiar with Ukraine, so you are on a very thin ice here, pal:) Something is telling me that I ain’t gonna get no reply to my question:-)

      27. David Alvaro October 24, 2014 at 9:41 am

        I didn’t say I got my doctorate in Ukraine- just that there were a large number of graduate students and post-docs of Ukrainian origin at Columbia University during my Ph.D. studies. When I visited Ukraine, I spent most of my time in Kiev and Odessa, although I also visited a former colleague in the Cherkasy province. The Ukrainian women I met were educated, successful, Westernized, and nothing like the fantasy of the submissive, chaste, ignorant women with low standards being sought by this community.

      28. FormerCanadian October 24, 2014 at 9:54 am

        Oh, Kiev and Odessa:-))) When did you get here, what year? What district of Kiev did you stay at? And where in Odessa did you stay?:-)
        You see, I’m slow with my approach:)))
        And who told you that this particular community is after submissive and ignorant women with low standards???
        Strangely enough I find North American women stupid, ugly and ignorant with a ME ME ME FIRST attitude, but you seem to like them. So it’s your word against mine:-)
        Waiting for your reply about the places you stayed at in Kiev and Odessa:-))

      29. David Alvaro October 24, 2014 at 10:07 am

        It was 15 years ago straight out of college, on a massive tour through Europe, where I wasn’t just focused on exploitative sex tourism like you lot. My itinerary is long since faded from memory. It is overwhelmingly apparent that the only reason this is even being discussed here is that Roosh and his even sadder disciples, having finally come to terms with the fact that they will never, ever get laid in the states, have gone searching for countries where they stand a chance. Having exhausted most of Europe, and with his (and this community’s) staunch racism, Eastern Europe has landed as their most hopeful chance of finding white women who don’t find them pathetic and repulsive. Nice emoticons, by the way. When do you start high school?

      30. FormerCanadian October 24, 2014 at 10:16 am

        ???????? What are you talking about??? I’ve been married for over 5 years! What exploitative sex tourism are you talking about????
        Somehow I had NO doubts that your itinerary “is long since faded from your memory”:-) You are just following a pattern of North American feminazis meaning “avoid the question or play around it when you don’t have an answer”:)))
        You feminazis are always the same, even your wording is the same and y’all resort to things like ” When do you start high school?” as soon as you have NO answer to the challenge.
        I was gonna ask you some questions about Kiev and Odessa, but since you are a fucking feminazi and a liar I ain’t gonna do that!
        Oh, and I’m a racist too, and proud of it!

      31. ChimpGod October 24, 2014 at 1:30 pm

        This mother fucker claims racism, yet when i posted mentioning “rap artists”, he goes on to refer to their “big black cocks”.. therefore assuming that the rap artists i mentioned are black? Or maybe all rap artists are black? You fucking racist, hypocrite piece of shit. You might want to check yourself, before you start accusing others. I follow Roosh, and he’s Iranian ethnicity.. i really could care less what race anyone is, as long as we are helping eachother. You, however, are a lyin.. sack of shit.. post pictures of you in Ukraine, and prove it. I bet you wouldn’t bad mouth roosh in front of him, or any of us.. i would be the first one to slap the shit out of you, Mr. Columbia PhD.. rrright..

      32. FormerCanadian October 24, 2014 at 8:50 am

        Please tell me WHERE in Ukraine you’ve been, what city you stayed in for your doctorate and what cities have you visited?:-)
        Patiently awaiting your reply:-) I’m VERY familiar with Ukraine, so you are on a very thin ice here, pal:) Something is telling me that I ain’t gonna get no reply to my question:-)

      33. ATC October 23, 2014 at 11:40 pm

        these idealized poor foreigners…illiterate woman

        That’s the tell. Straight guys will call out women’s behavior, but we don’t make catty remarks about women just for being “poor” or foreign.

        Not even your goofiest single-moms ‘n’ Lena lovin’ White Knight manboobs would make that kind of a comment.

      34. David Alvaro October 24, 2014 at 12:04 am

        That’s the tell of what? That I’m a womam, and SJW, or a Jew, I’ve been called all them, and more in here. You guys are so isolated from regular society that you think anyone wno disagrees with you much come from one of your enemies list, as though your crackpot theories represent men as a whole. It’s one of your great delusions
        As a grad student in New York who did a great deal of traveling abroad, I encountered and worked with many intellegent, gifted women from nearly every country, women who would see someone like Roosh coming a mile a way and laugh at his sex tourist special needs game.
        My remark was that Roos’s propects abroad don’t involve the intelligencia or upperclasses or even the minimally educated women of these countries, but the most desperate, disadvantaged ones that he can find. And, by his own admission, he strikes out with these women much more often that he is successful. No matter where we goes, women don’t want him, and he claims its because of the depravity of those women, rather than considering the possibility that his looks, personality, lack of a real career, and pathetic obsessions render him unattractive to all women everywhere. But since his fanbase comprises complete virgins, they are willing to accept and idolize him for his not very believable stories of occasionally being able to con poor and deperate EE women into sleeping with his nasty, affectless, thousand-yard-stare asperger persona, simple by flashing his American psssport.

      35. ATC October 24, 2014 at 3:03 am

        David claims that game is a sham yet his writing continually displays dark triad traits like underdeveloped empathy (“chuckle of the week…autism”) and narcissism (“proper education”).

        He’s like the guy who orders Chinese-made flags for a “Buy American” rally. Hypocritical, to say the least.

      36. Robert Alvaro October 23, 2014 at 8:13 pm

        lol borderline autistic you mean yourself? Hello David.

      37. David Alvaro October 23, 2014 at 8:20 pm

        Good one.

  22. TheGuest October 22, 2014 at 4:23 pm


    I think it’s wrong to see life as “a quest for notches”, rather I would say that we lot tend to look for “life to be as exciting as possible”.

    Collecting notches is exciting often enough (much less exciting through online game for example), but there are times we find ourselves wanting at least a temporary change from that specific quest.

    Starting a family can also be exciting – for some people, at some point in their lives. Even for the thrill-seeking man, it’s a possibility, at the right point, with the right woman.

  23. BangkokSlim October 22, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    I don’t understand this “loneliness” problem that men have, to me its a sign of weakness. I’m the complete opposite, my love for solitude will always outweigh any kind of companionship. I like to get that ass and be on my way, otherwise you have a ball/chain and drama to deal with…..

    I’m sure if Roosh ever shacks up he will soon long for the days of “BANG”

    1. Mike October 22, 2014 at 7:12 pm

      How old are you? Past a decent level of socializing in my school and university years – but even back then with a need for lots of time on my own – I’ve enjoyed averaging only once or twice a week spent with friends, dates or lovers.

      However at 37 (and only just now learning game) I’m starting to more frequently feel a desire for “companionship” beyond sex and a few hours of conversation here and there (still not pining the least bit for marriage and kids though, or even necessarily an LTR or successions of LTRs. Just women, one or more at a time, to share a bit more – but definitely not all – of my life with than I currently do).

      1. BangkokSlim October 22, 2014 at 7:35 pm

        Hell, I’m 46 and I really have no desire to form a relationship with any woman other then for friendship and sex. The freedom of bachelorism is just so much more peaceful and exhilarating. What does one benefit from a LTR or marriage, from my perspective, mostly drama and heartache. Occasional intellectual conversations are never far away and you don’t even need a woman for that….

  24. RedPillRenegade October 22, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    “…life will now become about receiving pleasure from dutiful work, hobbies
    that challenge me, and connections from both men and women. Thank you,
    Turkey, for helping me understand that.”

    Well, that’s what the majority of men on this planet have wanted all along. So you’ve come full circle and become a normal man then.

  25. pauldrake October 22, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    I’m going to be honest, I think some guys on manosphere sites greatly exaggerate their so called “notch counts.” A couple of my buddies back in the day were real lady killers and I doubt that their lifetime conquests made it to 3 digits. Of course young girls today are easier but it seems like there was still a lot of banging in the 70’s and 80’s. I give you credit for being upfront whether you’re on a hot streak or cooling your heels in a Turkish hotel.

  26. Tim Lando October 22, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    As a 45 yr old bachelor I can tell u it was bound to happen. Every man reaches a point where he realizes staying in and watching a movie with a cup of tea or coffee or even reading a book is sometimes equal to a bang. This happens around age 40, though. For a younger man, the bang will always be paramount. You’re about to discover this, Roosh. It’s almost like being a woman. You will start to get very picky. If you see a lovely woman and begin to weigh whether or not she is worth the coffee or the book, you have won the game. Then women come to you, and you discard them at your leisure. Remember, men get hotter with age. An older man is like a young woman – to a woman. We have all the power. Say goodbye to your clubbing days, for they are well nigh over, sir.

    1. Hipstersstink October 23, 2014 at 4:16 pm

      I like to hear from guys like you – about ten years ahead of me. You are the first large population of men to enter a life of solitude. Before you there was only a few scattered among us, not counting ones who found themselves alone after a divorce in their 40s. True solo pioneers.

      I can feel the changes you speak of planting their seeds today at 35 years old.

  27. just a human October 23, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    I think that man-no matter what is Your status, is lonely by default in this society. Around girls (except maybe extremely fat ones) there is always something going on. At least-somebody want’s to fuck them. And i see just one way out of it -numbers game. My city is one of those what Roosh mentioned as worst ones . But i know that every day here is at least couple hundred or more nice women in age 20-30, who would like to spend time with me.So-i just need to find them. I think this applies to allmost every city in this world…

  28. Pepini October 23, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    Life may be compared to a piece of embroidery, of which, during the first half of his time, a man gets a sight of the right side, and during the second half, of the wrong. The wrong side is not so pretty as the right, but it is more instructive; it shows the way in which the threads have been worked together.

    (Quoted on page 102 of Parerga and Paralipomena: A Collection of Philosophical Essays, by Arthur Schopenhauer. Cosimo Classics, 2007)

  29. Kevin October 23, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    Ya know, I’ve been reading your blog for the last couple years and never have felt the need to comment. Honestly, I don’t even know why I’ve been an avid reader. I’m not a PUA nor into ‘game’ and mostly apolitical. But beyond all that, I guess my draw was that we both lead fairly similar lifestyles — living and traveling in EE, tallying up notches and flags and searching for something more profound (for lack of a better word).

    I have to say though, this post compelled me to comment. It seems you finally discovered what I’ve too recently discovered — above and beyond all else, male camaraderie is the most important thing in the world. You’re right, it is difficult to find when you’re living in a foreign country. And especially difficult in EE. But it is possible. And it is absolute necessary.

    1. Mark Kimmel October 24, 2014 at 10:53 pm

      Excellent comment.

  30. observator October 23, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    another interesting thing: the girls are in groups around 1 or 2 guys only.

  31. Sheesh October 23, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    Just become Mormon and have a fresh wife for each day of the week.

  32. Lane Cobble October 23, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    Jaded, vexed, and aimless. Rising dissatisfaction with everything, increasing levels of cynicism, about everything. Intellectually coming to the same dead ends, or the same boring merry-go-round. This is spiritual death. Intellectual death. The wages of Sin.

    You need Christ brother. Bad. What do you have to lose? You’ve come to the end of Sin, and are yet still wanting, empty. You’ve conquered the world of poosy, yet have no joy, no purpose. Because an endless line of top-shelf poosy never will, never could fulfill, though at 25 it seemed the most exciting and enticing way to ‘fix’ what was wrong or missing in your life.

    You’ve achieved many great thing in terms of personal growth, challenging yourself, learning much more about the world around you, about writing, traveling, others cultures, the inner workings of the minds and souls of women, and of men. But what’s the next journey? There is only one, only one journey that lasts forever, and that satisfies. Forever. It is the greatest battle one can ever fight, far greater, and tougher, than conquering the poonany.

    Chasing poosy, no matter how good you are at it, isn’t even close to the real journey, with Christ. There is far more to learn with Him than you could ever imagine. The road you’re on now just goes in circles. Downward. That’s what you’re feeling. You’ve had your highs, your adventures, but the end of all the fornication and Sin is this: death. Christ saves, Christ lives.

  33. Cedric X October 23, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    Roosh man just wanted to let you know all last night est time and until about 2hrs ago I had trouble getting your site-
    a 404 error code would pop up-those pinko sjw clowns must be attacking the site.

    Did anyone ever tell the sjws about freedom of speech-why do I care what they say and why do they care what is men say?
    It’s free speech you pinko commies!

  34. splooge October 23, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    getting sick in Turkey, not surprised. All the hot nations or worse sub-tropical/tropical nations is not unusal. Its no wonder why my family or friends that come from those type of nations like africa,middle east or india they want to vacation in europe or japan and wonder why those from the rich cooler climate nations want to go to theirs. same can be said about south america but their women are sexy so hard call lol. But getting sick on vacation sucks ass,worst possible time.

    Im not surprised 1 bit that turkey sucked for you,its afemale sex tourist spot. And the funny thing is its the most westernised nation in the region…gets you thinking how hard the rest of the region would be in comparison. And you have an edge over the other male tourists there since you look like the locals. In the conservative desert zone being foreign, the local women look down on you(even if they like light skin but its a standard for their own countrymen).

    Like example I have many indian friends born here(and aboard) but when they go to india, they get better treatment when they are mistaken as a local but when they speak english (especially with our western accents) or “act/dress western or foreign”,suddenly you show lower value and they think less of you or try to screw you over like rip you and such. Hell youll get dirty looks on the street by strangers.
    The more different you are the harder it is to get in their circle. And its all circle game there. Big nation but they have small town mindset since they come form big families and somehow someway a random by stander will know someone of your relatives and gossip flys fast. Reputation of family is big there.
    Im assuming middle east is the same because culturally they are similar, conservative come from large families which result in that small town mindset of everyone somehow knowing everyone.

    as someone thats followed your blog for 2 years, after learning how bad Toronto and DC is among others, I always found it puzzling when some forum members talk about going to conservative nations like middle east and india(pussy desert zone), knowing full well its going to suck more.
    Isnt the whole point is to find easy places to get laid and get good girlfriends like latin america,east asia and eastern europe. Seems like a waste of time,money and youth if you are not going to the 3 golden regions.
    Like the desert zone makes Toronto or vancouver look like philipines to those poor bastards in terms of beauty,friendliness and easiness. And some these guys have tight game but got nothing at home.
    They essentially found their Philippines. Instead of working hard on foreign girls in resorts like Antalya, Goa or Cairo. Harsh pussy desserts can make killer gamers like players in DC or Toronto having perhaps the tights game in north america.

    curious when and where did you get your indian,asian and uae notches?
    its sounds like end game is on the horizon roosh. Before you retire just try a stint in phillipines just feel notch paradise. YOu just might catch the yellow fever but the good kind

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    R, at certain times, any man’s mission can realign. But that can be a couple years of turbulence. Happened to me and always wound up better for it.

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    1. guest October 24, 2014 at 4:50 am

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      Spells don’t do anything for the type of personal development many men seek around here. There’s never something for nothing in character building. I’m only replying to this spam artist as a general rebuke to the crap you shouldn’t let a chick believe.

  37. Nick October 24, 2014 at 10:11 am

    You should teach Roosh, and I don’t mean English. Find some place with one or more big universities and look into being a guest lecturer. Eastern Europeans are still fascinated by America and they’d love to have a “native speaker” who can talk about the culture. The local feminists may cause roadblocks, but if something is popular and in demand, it can’t be stopped. I’m looking into something along these lines in Warsaw, I’ll let you know how it goes.

    1. FormerCanadian October 28, 2014 at 5:29 pm

      European feminazis are NOTHING compared to their North American counterparts. They have not much power and would not stop anyone from lecturing folks about America or whatever you might want to lecture them about!!

  38. ChimpGod October 25, 2014 at 9:49 am

    Regarding the RACIST troll, “David Alvaro”.. Look, if you are going to talk shit, and accuse people of transgression against humanity, or whatever bullshit is spewing out of your mouth, at least don’t get caught being a racist yourself.. What, do as you say, not as you do there David? I’ll copy my comment, and his reply:

    ChimpGod Dr Caveman • 5 days ago

    I bet she is thinking, “I grow weary of this game.. time to Swag420YOLO BITCHES!” That is a fucking disaster waiting to strike you like a cobra.. I bet you get home one day and she has a bunch of Rappers wearing doo rags and gold chains, all sweating up on that pussy, with a dick in every hole, while she is drinking , while having a pair of angel wings tattooed on her back, or getting a sleeve on her arm, because its “so fucking cool”

    David Alvaro ChimpGod • 3 days ago

    No, it’s only you guys who spend all this time fantasizing about big black cocks.

    ChimpGod David Alvaro • 3 days ago

    Where did you get “big black cocks” from? Are you implying that the foreamentioned rappers are black? Or are you truly the one who is craving black dick ? Looks like we have another follower who wants you to write “Gay Bang”, Roosh.. with a chapter on how to seduce African American males.3

    So do you think all black people wear doo rags, and gold chains there David? Maybe they like to gang bang white bitches also? You are a fucking hypocrite.. I mention “rap artist”, and you automatically assume they are black.. Not only that, but you perpetuate the stereotype that apparently, they all have “big black cocks.” I’m assuming you are an expert in this field.. Once again, the post speaks for itself. You got caught slipping. Plain and simple. Take your Ivy League diploma, and wipe your ass with it. I have a high school diploma, and I bet I make more money than you.. I’m obviously smarter than you.

    1. FormerCanadian October 27, 2014 at 2:31 pm

      :-)))) Having a DIPLOMA does NOT automatically mean having brains, skills, will power and ability to adjust to life’s demands:-))

  39. jkgkjgkhgkj October 25, 2014 at 1:38 pm

    in the end, even getting sex from women, isn’t really so great as it seems. Women can never fulfill you

    1. EL November 4, 2014 at 1:29 pm

      I wonder why is that?

  40. Luís Simões de Almeida October 26, 2014 at 4:18 am

    Man your most recent posts have been getting me down…
    I recently finished a long term relationship and am quite determined to leave behind my beta ways, been following your blog and Maverick’s, I want to drown myself in pussy like you guys have (and have been succeeding so far, although I’m more in the quantity phase) but man… Is this the endgame? Does the pussy river lead to disilusion and back to the beta sea?
    I guess I’ll have to find out by myself!

    1. CardinalMethod October 26, 2014 at 6:52 pm

      Abandoning the traits that make a man submissive to the pussy, will not lead to dejection and despair. It’s my theory, that Roosh has found himself in this predicament, only because he is living a life isolated from others, in a less than welcoming environment. Since, he has made quite the name for himself as a true cocksmen, and this history is easily found with a quick google search, the odds would be stacked against him in the West. That’s on top of the prevailing attitudes of the wome in the developed world. So now, he’s stuck in this catch 22.

      1. Luís Simões de Almeida October 27, 2014 at 3:51 pm

        Meh, I doubt he’s all that known among non-manosphere followers. I seriously doubt it will hurt more than 1% of his approaches.

      2. CardinalMethod October 27, 2014 at 10:15 pm

        One quick internet search reveals quite a bit about any person, and don’t think for a second that isn’t one of the first things a girl does once they meet someone new.

    2. FormerCanadian October 27, 2014 at 2:29 pm

      Quantity would NEVER replaced a REAL quality!
      Settling down for QUALITY does not make a person beta not a huge number of “pussies” conquered does make someone alpha.
      And another thing-there is so much more in life to enjoy than just counting the number of “pussies” you’ve had sex with!! Expand your horizons and do not limit yourself with notch count!

      1. Luís Simões de Almeida October 27, 2014 at 3:53 pm

        True… but quantity does help when you’re still in the early stages of learning game like I am.

      2. FormerCanadian October 28, 2014 at 12:30 pm

        Do you even need a game at all?:-) Think about it.
        How about just being a man with values like honesty, integrity, dignity, respect, mutual understanding and support when dealing with a woman? You don’t need a game for THAT! Just stand your own grounds, dare to have an own opinion, to stand up and be counted and to lead by example!!
        I know, I know, it all depends on the goals you set for yourself in dating, but you’ll still come to the conclusion that being a MAN is better than being a GAMER even in case you happen to bang 100+ females and having no problems with your approach etc!

      3. Luís Simões de Almeida January 20, 2015 at 9:39 pm

        You’re describing inner game. Different ways of saying the same thing. But sometimes you need to fake it until you make it

  41. Guest October 26, 2014 at 9:27 am

    Some call it “Growing Up”

  42. Fran October 31, 2014 at 6:14 am

    “Combined with the fact that I’ve accomplished what I had set out to do as dreamed by my 25-year-old self, it’s no surprise I’m lacking in direction”

    ==> So time to move on and set out to accomplish what your 5-year-old self was dreaming about 😉

  43. TexasExpert November 3, 2014 at 10:22 am

    Roosh, glad you had some time to really think about everything. I didn’t realize making male friends over there would be hard. I’m planning a move to eastern europe based on your books in April. Ukraine sounds awesome! Hang in there bro.

    1. FormerCanadian November 3, 2014 at 11:14 am

      Why do you need a lot of males friends in Ukraine or Eastern Europe in general? You don’t need a lot of friends when you grow older.
      What are you planning to do in Ukraine? It ain’t that easy in longer.

      1. TexasExpert November 3, 2014 at 11:40 am

        Short term, I wouldn’t think you would really need to make male friends. Long term, you would start to miss your homeboys. The same guys that have your back and come grill out every weekend. I plan on experiencing new life in another country. Nothing worthwhile is easy, but with a plan anything is possible.

  44. Veni Vidi Vici November 3, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    Agreed, Roosh when I travel which isn’t much ( I hope to Change that now that I am retired. ) I avoid resort towns like the plague. I visited the resort town of Marmaris Turkey while in the Navy and I had a similar experience. Go for the scenery and not for the women, I am sure that many men like myself thank you for your candid reviews..

  45. Mark Mallarde November 3, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    This is very amusing. I experienced the same thing in Turkey many years ago as a pasty Caucasian. My buddy and I watched a torrent of Scandinavian girls and Turkish men intermingle. We did not even exist. It was like being a biologist watching sea lions mating on a beach. It had nothing to do with us. The women wanted the Turkish men and were there to pick them up. It left quite an impression.

  46. onetosix November 5, 2014 at 3:20 am

    “I prefer Eastern European girls above all overs. I did like Latin
    girls in the past, have banged a couple Asian girls, one black girl, and
    even one Indian girl, but currently have no desire or curiosity to bang
    them again. While some Turkish girls were very pretty, my boner is less
    for them than their dainty European equivalent. I plan to spend the
    bulk of my remaining days in Eastern Europe”.

    How can you “write off” or make any kind of legitamate decision/opinion about Asian girls, black girls, Indian girls etc when according to your above statement you have banged only one or two of these girls in the past. What a ludicrous statement! How do you REALLY know that you prefer Eastern European girls? I love EU girls too, but have lived in many countries all over the world and have banged hundreds if not thousands of beautiful girls of many nationalities/ethnicities. I’m now 72 years old, retired and a very active full time monger living in Asia. I can/could live in ANY place I want on the planet, but for myself Asia is my personal favorite, and others will choose other places obviously. One of my best friends now lives in the Dominican Republic as did I for several years, but then moved to Asia. It is all good and there is wonderful fun to be had in numerous places around the globe….I hope someday you can base your tastes/desires/opinions about various girls’ colors/ethnicities on a little larger sampling than one or two bangs. Life is GOOD!!

  47. Christopher McAdams November 12, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    So Roosh, do you keep a count of how many you have banged so far? Have you crossed the 1K mark yet?. I love your articles by the way, everyone of them a fascinating read.

  48. Joe November 20, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    I would never choose Turkey as a place to get easy sex, first of all the country is very conservative despite being “secular”. Turkish women in Europe are very hard to approach as well, pre-marital sex is not looked upon favorably among Muslims, they are under tremendous social pressure to stay away from non Muslim men.

    If you want an “alternative” to Eastern Europe try Thailand or the Philippines. Latin America is another great alternative.

  49. Joe November 24, 2014 at 1:05 pm

    I would also like to add that Turkey tends to be a place popular with German and English tourists, so that is why the only “available” women were of low quality compared to most Eastern European types.
    Turkish women for the most part do not mess around with unmarried men, but I think that is the whole crux of your argument that feminism has allowed women to engage in recreational unattached sexual activity. This is something that is looked down upon in a country like Turkey and in many Muslim nations where people get married and produce children. This is philosophy is similar in Asia and also in South America.
    People get married and have one partner, you have argued continuously that American women and Western women in general are feminists and usually seek something from men, often financial gain, and occasional sex.
    If you went to Turkey and are looking for a wife, assuming your a Muslim, you will probably be very successful in that endeavor.

    I find that to be a good thing that the men in Turkey protect their sisters and daughters from men seeking sex with them. It just shows the higher level of morals in that society and the higher regard for men in that society.
    I am of Armenian background and reside in the US, back in the old country our women are very good wives, and many of them here in America also attempt to maintain our ways, of course you have many who Westernize themselves as well.

    I also find it interesting you blame PUAs for ruining male-female relations in North America, but you engage in that same game, so you are actually giving a “win” to those dread feminists. Just my thoughts.

  50. femmefatale January 20, 2016 at 12:19 am

    Honestly Roosh, you went to the wrong place. Alanya is filled with Kurds, who are alot more Middle Eastern than Turks in every way whether physically, culturally and etc. you really need to visit Izmir,Turkey for the real Turkish experience. One of my favourite cities for women along with other Eastern European cities. Also watch out for the refugees.

    1. Jordan April 26, 2016 at 1:02 pm

      Exactly Man. Spot On.