No experience in life can take from you without also giving, and no experience can give without taking. One occurs on the surface and is easily visible, but the other takes more reflection, helping you identify the truth, meaning, and value of your life. I had a recent experience in Turkey that did this for me.

In late August I was in the resort city of Alanya, Turkey, a place that was supposed to give me a refreshing break from Eastern Europe and its women. I booked the eleven day trip soon after getting dumped by Anna, with the idea of banging slutty Scandinavian girls on vacation, but I probably did this as a response to some confusing emotions about what I really wanted from women.

The environment of Alanya for banging, it turned out, was the worst I’ve seen since visiting Bolivia back in 2007. It was worse than Washington DC, Copenhagen, and Riga, cities I’ve spared no scorn for. It was so bad I tried to change my flight to leave sooner, but since it was the absolute peak of summer, all flights back home to Ukraine were full.

The negatives of Turkey were numerous:

  • Complete inaccessibility of young Turkish girls. They were continually guarded by men or family members.
  • Nuclear bomb of horny Turkish men who approached any foreign girl regardless of her beauty.
  • Loud, cheesy nightlife with 4 guys for every 1 girl.
  • Low quality Scandinavian girls.
  • Extreme heat that barely tapered at night.

bFPNHGz

I knew I’d have a hill to climb in Turkey since I look Turkish (my bloodline is half Iranian and half Armenian), but I grossly underestimated how bad of a responses I’d get. I was treated by girls like a t-shirt or kebab vendor, just another brown man to brush off for the day. It didn’t help that Turkish men had great clown game, and were applying it with passion on girls I wouldn’t touch.

Even worse is that I went solo. On the handful of interactions I made progress on, I couldn’t isolate in the end. Rolling solo in a regular city isn’t so bad, but in a resort location it was the death knell. In eleven days I got nothing, and to add insult to injury, I got some type of infection that holed me up in a little hotel room for several days watching music videos and counting down to when I could return to the relative poosy paradise of Ukraine. It was the worst vacation I’ve ever taken.

If you’ve been reading me for the past couple of years, you’ll have noticed I’m not exactly sure as to the best way to proceed. Combined with the fact that I’ve accomplished what I had set out to do as dreamed by my 25-year-old self, it’s no surprise I’m lacking in direction. My experience in Turkey, along with fleeting clues I’ve recently processed in Russia, Poland, and Ukraine, has made that direction much more clear. Here is what I’m now sure of:

  • I no longer have the heart or will to do bang or flag missions. I’m not that pleased when I succeed or disappointed when I fail, meaning it no longer brings much value to my life.
  • I’m not interested in traveling alone. I’ve done it for so long, to so many countries, that I’ve passed the point of diminishing return in what it can provide me. It doesn’t help that any new country I visit simply reminds me of bits and pieces of previous countries.
  • I must only “travel” to scout out a location for semi-permanent living, to make a legally required border run, or to share an experience with a close male friend or female lover.
  • I want easy sex and a hundred notches a year from beautiful girls like any other guy, but I can no longer sacrifice quality for quantity. I’m unable to lower my standards even when inebriated. In Turkey I lowered my standards the first two nights but my game wasn’t congruent, and afterwards I felt ashamed at myself for pursuing such low talent. The notching phase of my life is over.
  • I prefer Eastern European girls above all overs. I did like Latin girls in the past, have banged a couple Asian girls, one black girl, and even one Indian girl, but currently have no desire or curiosity to bang them again. While some Turkish girls were very pretty, my boner is less for them than their dainty European equivalent. I plan to spend the bulk of my remaining days in Eastern Europe.
  • I need mini-relationships for companionship as much as access to pussy. Loneliness is getting harder to tolerate. I want someone to pass the time with once or twice a week, to brighten up the calm of my normal work week. Male friendship can fill this role also, but it’s often harder to make male friends in foreign cities than to make love with girls.

It’s not enough to state your goals, work towards them, and call it a day. Experience changes your desires and your desires affect your experiences, reacting with each other in an imperfect and unbalanced equation that can leave you absolutely sure of your direction and path one year, but lost the next. A jarring experience like the one I recently had in Turkey forced me to evaluate everything while I sat in my hotel room counting down the days until I could leave. These meditations told me to stop being so spoiled, appreciate the lifestyle that I’ve been able to build up, and to accept that the grass I’ve already found in Eastern Europe is in all likelihood the greenest based on who I am as a man.

The big problems of my life have been solved, and until those new problems appear, life will now become about receiving pleasure from dutiful work, hobbies that challenge me, and connections from both men and women. Thank you, Turkey, for helping me understand that.

Don’t Miss: Are Turkish Girls Worth It?

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Hormuz
Hormuz
6 years ago

Uncle Roosh,
If your book sales had not taken off like they did and you were stuck in DC at your currer age what would you do?

What if you were an incel right now at this age how would you handle it?

Anon.
Anon.
6 years ago
Reply to  Hormuz

It shines through that Roosh is deeply affected by the loss of his recent girl.
That’s something that doesn’t really go away. It is the male equivalent of being an alpha widow.

ATC
ATC
6 years ago
Reply to  Anon.

I wonder why Roosh doesn’t try to make big money?

He could easily make high six figures if not $1M+ as a dating coach. Why he does not do this (at least that we know of) is beyond me.

Ar10
Ar10
6 years ago
Reply to  ATC

He could also go to the foreign bride letter writing angle like http://www.love me.com
They charge clowns $10/pop to write letters to those model looking girls. It’s crazy-Id rather get on a plane and cold approach than get played like that.

I think he suffers from low t
and/or depression.
Roosh can a guy get t therapy in ua? I could probably use some
Myself.

hernan cortez
hernan cortez
6 years ago
Reply to  ATC

It may be a different skill set. Being a good driver, doesn’t mean you’ll be a good driving instructor. Being good with women, doesn’t mean you’ll be a good instructor on how to pick up women.

I’m not saying Roosh couldn’t do it. But there are lots of competition out there and cost and marketing and then add on the fact that there are people in the same field with NATIONAL TV SHOWS or who been on national tv shows like doctor phil or letterman ie. ross jefferies or mystery competing in the same space.

Besides finding clients who will pay, and either renting space commercially, it would also most likely force him to lvie in the usa full time, ruining his own chances of gaming long term attractive ukranian women. Lets face it, if you want to open up a dating coach business, you go to a place that is poosy hell; where you can get alot of clients.

Also you have to put together curriculum and plot out things nicely for people. You also have to be quick on your feet and provide instant answers to any questions that come up. Dating coach not for the faint of heart.

Veni Vidi Vici
Veni Vidi Vici
6 years ago
Reply to  Anon.

How is PUA being Alpha? I have given this some thought and I more respect for a men that pays Prostitutes, PUA’s are the Ultimate Betas because they change who they are for the approval and attention of women with a slim chance of sex, Changing who I am is something I would never do, and hopefully no other self respecting men would either. Now I agree with Roosh that men should work to improve themselves but so should women. An Alpha would just pay for sex and be done with while keeping his sense of self.
Other PUA flaws: failure to address women’s negative behaviors.
Expensive: After you paid for the club, drinks, dates, etc. going to the a brothel especially overseas was probably cheaper anyway.
PUA builds off attraction so the woman is choosing you first, I doubt any PUA course can help you if a woman has no attraction to you.

Peter Pan
Peter Pan
6 years ago

Fuck it. Just get married to some Eastern European virgin girl with a bubble butt who is 17 and call a day. The loneliness problem is only going to get worse. Find a lifelong companion.

lazy to fill in
lazy to fill in
6 years ago
Reply to  Peter Pan

What makes you think that a 17 years old Ukrainian 6+ with a bubble butt (bubble butts are rarity in Ukraine btw) will marry him?

The Aquarian
The Aquarian
6 years ago

it’s a numbers game. if you approach enough women> one will say yes!

seth datta
seth datta
6 years ago

who says THEY want to get married at that age?
and mabye a lifelong relationship is marriage, but the legal ceremony will end up costing you?

Visionquest
Visionquest
6 years ago
Reply to  seth datta

“who says THEY want to get married at that age?”

That, plus it would seem east europe is westernizing fast. Getting hitched is not a good idea in this life.

ChimpGod
6 years ago
Reply to  Visionquest

Find one sure, and have a LTR.. Don’t get married. Trust me, they would marry you in Eastern Europe.. Unless you are broke as fuck. If you have some money, or retirement, they would gladly marry you.. Many girls over there are looking for security/stability, which most men can’t provide.

7.62x51
7.62x51
6 years ago
Reply to  ChimpGod

What kind of money do they need/year for this CG?

splooge
splooge
6 years ago

get her to do s heavy quats for like 3 months.
didnt know roosh got with asian girls. at least try the phillipines before retiring in ee.

asshole
asshole
6 years ago
Reply to  Peter Pan

Marriage isn’t going to cure the ‘loneliness problem’. Being lonely is a state of mind. Personally, the most miserable and lonely guys i know are married. Never use marriage as a cure to some problem you’re experiencing. A stable woman should be an enhancement not more nothing less.

AK 1974
AK 1974
6 years ago
Reply to  asshole

Good point man.

How do you conclusively cure the level of loneliness that causes you pain?

TyKo Steamboat
TyKo Steamboat
6 years ago
Reply to  asshole

Wow. Seriously great words, asshole. Well said.

TyKo Steamboat
TyKo Steamboat
6 years ago
Reply to  Peter Pan

I thank God every day that I don’t crave the ultra addictive drug known as “Female Companionship”. I like & enjoy women but in moderation. I have a friend my same age that is craving & dying for a girlfriend rite now. I remind him every day how lucky he truly is.
Some guys just aren’t cut-out for a life of peace, quiet, loneliness & solitude. When you are in a serious relationship, your schedule then becomes her schedule. Temporary mini-relationships are the way to go until you’re 40. Then seek out the 25 y.o. Slavic hottie.

Uncle Elroy
Uncle Elroy
6 years ago
Reply to  Peter Pan

You’re in the wrong country for that kind of build- that sounds more Colombia, Romania, Brazilian, Argentinian, Mexican or Hungarian.

Ukraine for skinny petite girls.

Daniel
Daniel
6 years ago

Rolling solo on a summer resort is one of the most boring things you can do, I wonder why a man of your experience did it.
When I travel solo I usually do road trips. Much more entertaining, and you meet a lot of people on the way. The possibilities of getting laid are the same, considering that on a summer vacation you must go for the same day bang anyway, since pretty girls are too distracted by too many cock options.

General Stalin
General Stalin
6 years ago

The predictions of a male desires as he progresses through adulthood coming to fruition right before our eyes. I have little doubt that within 5 years from now (maybe even less) you will be looking towards long-term companionship, settling down, and the desire for children. Not that I think you need the affirmation, but I’d like to state that I think you’re doing it right and have lived a great life thus far by pursuing your personal goals and passions in life, traveling and experiencing different cultures and flavors of life, and avoiding commitment while you navigate yourself, your desires, and your personal existential evolution.

seth datta
seth datta
6 years ago
Reply to  General Stalin

i’d think he’d get bored of settling down with one girl in a monogamous relationship, but if he wanted to go down that route that’s fine. Muslim society has the 3-4 wives thing. What kind of girls you can keep vs what you have to offer to tempt them to stay (and be solely yours)?

Tim Lando
Tim Lando
6 years ago
Reply to  General Stalin

I agree.

Asf
Asf
6 years ago

The thing that’s sometimes hard to appreciate is that we change with time. Who we become is not who we were. So making decisions based on what makes you happy today can lead to wrong turns because those judgements are wrong for tomorrow.

But man must come to this realization from experience even though others may have predicted this path beforehand.

pua to the next level
pua to the next level
6 years ago

I see two scenarios for Roosh in Ukraine:
-“Right sector” will track him down and will beat his sand-nigga brains out.
-He will have an emotional breakdown and will either try to commit suicide or something of this sort (you can see signs of it in this post).

35 years old,unable to lock down even a Ukrainian 6.Pathetic.

invisiblehand85
invisiblehand85
6 years ago

Excellent

Andrew Richardson
Andrew Richardson
6 years ago

What a sad and pathetic life you live.

All your “notches” were completely empty experiences. You’re going to be a lonely and sad 50-year-old man, whose only accomplishments are having bedded a few hundred women.

To your credit, you’re starting to acquire a bit of wisdom. Please keep updating your blog. I want to see how this trainwreck ends.

John
John
6 years ago

This attitude is really up for debate.

What’s a “normal guy’s” accomplishment? That he spawned a couple of children?

Anything can be downplayed.

Notches were a fulfilling challenge and it helped him grow as a man.

Having good game does require mental skills that help you grow in every way.

Now he can move on to the next big thing for himself if he wants to.

Derschel
Derschel
6 years ago
Reply to  John

“Notches were a fulfilling challenge and it helped him grow as a man.”

Male hamsterizing. That is exactly what women tell themselves about their notches.

Tommy Hass
Tommy Hass
6 years ago
Reply to  Derschel

They’re women, you idiot.

Rupert
Rupert
5 years ago
Reply to  Derschel

You do realize men and women are different, right?

Men bedding lots of women is generally healthy for men. Aside from mental, social and sexual benefits, there is also evidence that it provides physical benefits.

The opposite is true for women. Opening their legs for every Tom, Dick and Harry that comes along only ends in negatives for them, across all areas.

GUEST
GUEST
5 years ago
Reply to  Rupert

>implying people sleeping with hundreds of people is normal

fam..
never met one, male or female, who was mentally stable and genuinely nice to be around who did that.
it effects the women more but it hits the man too.

mimicracra
mimicracra
6 years ago

I can explain this. The reason for this depression and whining is inability to lock down an HB. Being dumped by a desperate ukrainian 6, being ignored by anything above 7…Emotional dead end.
Once you get into a relationship with a Hb “out of your league” (always pushing up)..life takes other colours

JR
JR
6 years ago

There’s no need to tell Roosh or anyone else bad things and speak negativity into their lives. You sound like the frustrated public school teacher who tells every 12yo kid that annoys her that they’ll never amount to anything but a garbageman blah blah blah when garbage men in some areas make more than “teachers”/bureaucrats who push Fabian socialist scientific management based day slave route task style collectivist brainwashing to the proletariat children to condition them for a lifetime of slavery to the corporate-state bankster system.

Another thing Roosh is not thinking about is all the spiritual baggage from forniacating and sharing spiritual energy with all those different women. It’s called soul ties and the blood of Jesus Christ can cleanse and wash away the weight and negativity of sins by repenting and asking him into your life. Roosh you need God and real love in your life man and I need to get my money right and fly to a land to live and find a solid, traditional, feminine wife. I’m not built for “game” but I am for geographic relocation as Im sick of the entitled, arrogant, feminist brainwashed quasi-masculine sensibilities of American girls which is why I read this blog as I like how you are open about your intellectualism and cultural experiences. You’ve got me wanting to marry a Colombian or Polish traditional, godly Catholic woman. I’m disgusted by American culture- all the selfish, materialistic, uneducated, hateful, isolated emptiness-its the price a Nation pays for abandoning God and His teachings and its very painful to live in a place like this burnI trust that God can show me the best path.

John
John
6 years ago
Reply to  JR

There are church driven dating sites you may want to check out, even in the US.

bear
bear
6 years ago
Reply to  JR

God bless you in your journey. I discovered game, as a Christian. I put it into practice for awhile, but the spirit of God wouldn’t allow me to live that lifestyle and still have inner peace. I had a variety of women going on when I met my now current wife. She had just become a Christian. She’s a very kind, loving domestic wife. I am blessed. There is still hope here in the West to find a keeper to settle down with, but undoubtedly its challenging. Unfortunately, girls who grew up in the church tend to be as bad if not worse than those who did not

JR
JR
6 years ago
Reply to  bear

I agree-God is awesome and I value human beings and dont want to sin against them or God. I never wanted to flip women like cars like many people get into-its a toxic lifestyle. The Church today has lost its power and influence because its just like the World and the Church leaders dont fight smart against the elitist evil who control they present economic-political-social system. Its a chore to date unfeminine women-sometimes I think the answer is getting out of America as much as I love my guns-I cant take crabby, unsweet women-they’re gross. Its like dealing with a half man creature and it sickens me.

Earl Henson
Earl Henson
6 years ago
Reply to  JR

The Catholic church which may provide you with the woman you are looking for is the SAME church that 2% of priests rape little boys while the other 98% of priests and parishioners stand by and say ‘that’s terrible.’

Deebos
Deebos
6 years ago

As opposed to a sad, lonely, divorced 50 year old man saddled with CS and alimony who lives in his sisters basement and rails against marriage but shacks up with the first tail that comes along because his lonliness cripples him and she needs a baby daddy?

Hmmm…choices.

TyKo Steamboat
TyKo Steamboat
6 years ago

Hahaha. Looks like words from a guy who is married to an American woman & has a couple kids that hate him. (Accurate guess?) That would be a sad life in my view.

Hipstersstink
Hipstersstink
6 years ago

At least the dude has the awareness and confidence to recognise these issues and meet them head on.

I bet you are incapable of that – guy who sits in the dark and waits for someone to admit their failings so he can point and laugh.

g status
g status
6 years ago

Great story about how you’ve changed. I think it’s all great. Looking forward to see what the new you brings.

Inside UoM
Inside UoM
6 years ago

Look it makes complete sense that you’re experiencing this phase, you’ve been in the game for over 12 years and have done a lot. Chronic player fatigue would undoubtedly take down most men by this time.

But spare a thought of all the younger guys that admire your writing and read it, don’t forget your peak player days or extreme highs, and focus solely on your current lifestyle. You probably already know this but a lot of your writing acts as great inspiration for younger guys.

D
D
6 years ago
Reply to  Inside UoM

It is true Roosh. Some of us aspire to be half the man you are.

FormerCanadian
FormerCanadian
6 years ago

And why are y’all soooo surprised at the ratio of 3.5 males to 1 female???? That’s a completely NORMAL or even GOOD ratio in ANY Toronto nightclub. At some Toronto club you might as well get a ratio of 10 sex hungry and desperate Canadian males to 1 female and it is considered NORMAL in Canada.
At least Turkey has a nice sea in summer, the water is warm and beaches are nice. Toronto has a cold lake and dirty beaches and water is usually polluted since lake Ontario “collects” all the garbage from other 4 Great Lakes being the last one in their “chain”.
Whereas Alanya has very nice beaches and you could at least have enjoyed them while being in Turkey.
I’ll try to find some photos of Toronto nightclubs to back up my words with facts.

seth datta
seth datta
6 years ago
Reply to  FormerCanadian

I thought the Canadian women i met had more class than UK and US women. But I do concede that may be a small sample, and that in general the quality and quantity may be dire. But if the ratio is that low, then where are they? I mean, I know there are 104 males to every 100 females aged 20-40 in the west (with immigration, that number may be higher, so some/many men go without for sure).

Hopefully they’re not at home getting stuffed on food.

FormerCanadian
FormerCanadian
6 years ago
Reply to  seth datta

Canadian women are exactly the same crap as UK or US ones. May be even with more sense of self entitlement, ignorance and ME ME ME FIRST attitude.
Where are Canadian women? It’s not women, it’s MALES who make the ratio 10 to 1! Canadian cities are full of desperate and sex hungry males who flock to all kinds of watering holes in desperate attempts to get ANY kind of pussy thus even the ugliest female in Canada will always have a line up of desperate males willing to go 10 extra miles in order to please her.

Hipstersstink
Hipstersstink
6 years ago
Reply to  FormerCanadian

Seconded. Except I would say it’s easier to find English women with more class than in Canada (don’t get your undies in a bunch – this isn’t saying much). But I also live in London. Canadian women are some of the most foul-mouthed, self-entitled, sea donkeys you could imagine. Why is this? Just read the above. There are THAT many desperate, pussy-worshiping and hungry dudes in Canada’s major cities. Women can pretty much behave however they want. It is astonishing.

FormerCanadian
FormerCanadian
6 years ago
Reply to  Hipstersstink

This: ” Canadian women are some of the most foul-mouthed, self-entitled, sea donkeys you could imagine. Why is this? Just read the above. There are THAT many desperate, pussy-worshiping and hungry dudes in Canada’s major cities. Women can pretty much behave however they want!”
Man, you can’t even imagine how a night club district looks like Friday and Saturday night in Toronto and other major Canadian cities…. Hordes of sex hungry and desperate males are roaming the streets and club hopping in a vain hope to get whatever pussy they might encounter! Quality? What quality?? Even the ugliest whale of a woman with attitude will have a line up of desperate males willing to do all the magic tricks just to get a piece of her attention.
A lot of people here blame Jews, mainstream media ect for the current state of things in North American dating whereas I keep saying-BLAME MALES AND MALES ONLY!! They are the ones who’ve allowed all this to happen, lowered their selection criteria and standards and decided to settle for the lowest of the low just to dip that fucking dick into whatever pussy comes their way… And that’s the saddest part, my friend… Things ain’t gonna change as long as North American males do not change their behavior, man up and start being MALES and not pussified creatures with absolutely NO self esteem.

Hipstersstink
Hipstersstink
6 years ago
Reply to  FormerCanadian

That is why I’ll never go back to Canada. Anytime I hear a girl with an American or Canadian accent in London I cringe.

Jenn
Jenn
6 years ago

Middle Eastern guy in his late 30s, hanging out in a nightclub by himself, trying (and failing) to take home a girl.

Stereotypes exist for a reason.

asshole
asshole
6 years ago
Reply to  Jenn

Mid 30s, he’s 35. He was in the ME (Turkey is part of it). I assume they’re used to Middle Eastern guys in clubs in the Middle East.

splooge
splooge
6 years ago
Reply to  Jenn

didnt know that was a middle eastern stereotype. Usually I picture rich ass lebanese,persian or saudi kids throwing up cash like some playboy baller.

sadfasf
sadfasf
6 years ago

Before you settle down completely, you should take a flight to Ethiopia and experience more black girls. People say good things about the place.

Also people get an associative memory. Most people’s ‘types’ come from previous people they’ve had good experiences with.

Deebos
Deebos
6 years ago

Lonliness is both the gift and the pain of game. On one hand it motivates us to achieve. On the other it reminds us that even with success, there is a decidely empty feeling to the chase.

However, I will always feel sorry for the men who play life safely and settle for the typical American woman.

As for me, give me the excitement of the chase and the loneliness, they cannot exist without each other.

seth datta
seth datta
6 years ago
Reply to  Deebos

But if most women are damaged (like many men, due to culture) and, Roosh having partaken of that culture and becoming shaped somewhat by it, what is the solution? In the same way sleeping with many men damages most women, the opposite is also true. How can he forget the nature of women when he has slept with so many? And repeating a short term relationship from scratch is pointless. There is no point settling down, oftentimes, as the women (even virgins) don’t want a relationship, he has not built himself up as a provider in his character, and he would not be satisfied with most and perhaps all women due to his extensive experience.

Our ancestors knew marriage was not easy but made a society prosperous and relatively happy and secure. We have been tricked to abandon all of this over the last 3 generations at least, for ‘freedom’. But freedom is not free as our rights are taken away due to a broken society, and people’s choices do impact others and their future life.

IMHO, while the ‘white woman allure’ may be there for some, it is often a poisoned chalice due to the culture (not the race) and they are brainwashed from birth to be obnoxious home wreckers. This is worst in the UK/US/Canada/Aus/NZ/Ireland, but then Europe can still pose its problems. Even if you find a virgin, as you have posted Roosh, they just want some quick sex and then to move on. Where are you going to find a girl for keeps? Would you accept the boredom of a steady girlfriend (since if you spin multiple plates, you’ll end up being dissatisfied yet again and the relationship will burn out). I think as a man gets older, depending on the thirst, many men don’t have it in them to keep approaching, and even PUAs like Paul Janka, I suspect got married as he saw that eventually he would become too old to compete, have to lower his standards, and even that the game is getting harder these days with women’s demands, the law and even just the quality of women tanking.

I do think most sane men of any colour need to leave the ‘six’ Anglo countries I mentioned above as they will see the most draconian laws enforced in future before they collapse painfully, a few decades from now. The problem is, where is the magical paradise? I guess you have to find a place and create it for yourself, and bring/attract the people you want there too. If human society is based upon relationships before all else, the ultimate game is building a mini-society that upholds what you believe in and not what conforms to someone else’ (oftentimes sick) agenda. Not everyone is going to agree with you or have your back. You might have to lose friends, family… But it is WORTH IT if you can pull some of it off.

Last of all, I know most people are not religious, which is fine. All religions have had truths and many things twisted to be lies. But a search for why we are here and God and how we treat our fellow human beings does not hurt. It is a shame in this consumerist society that we are fed false answers and brainwashed to be a certain way, because we are all not so different. We are taught to be divided and conquered. We are cut off from spirituality/God in a world where we work for scraps but we forget/do not even come to realise that we may be here for a bigger purpose, or assume we’ve got it all covered, as we keep running harder on the treadmill towards our own demise.

American Woman
American Woman
5 years ago
Reply to  seth datta

This is an old post, but I am as my name suggests (American Woman). I agree with you wholeheartedly and I am moved by your passion for God and His presence to be in society.

I agree that American girls aren’t sweet or feminine. Though I admit, I am guilty of doing some things too (like being rough in speech or thought, ect); but here, it is encouraged for women to behave that way and to act aggressive and compete with men. It’s very frustrating.

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Jordan
Jordan
6 years ago

I loved this post! Very thought provoking….

Lonely
Lonely
6 years ago

If you are lonely get a good dog.

He will always be there for you and he won’t be a emotional parasite like a woman.

1NinerWhiskey
1NinerWhiskey
6 years ago

Anna…..

holberg
holberg
6 years ago

maybe you should have focussed on visting culture in Turkey instead of chasing girls

SeuthestheThird
SeuthestheThird
6 years ago

Sex is overrated and it has always been. If you shape your life around it, it would become meaningless.

But you’re doing more than that, RoK is by far your greatest achievement and if you work on it to become a significant movement, you might even go down the history books.

My advise is, as you’re getting older now, try to change your business model from Bang to Yang (if you know what I mean).

Best regards

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago

Poor Roosh. He no longer even has the heart to pretend to be able to score with chicks. It just got too tiresome to act like his fake game stuff ever got him laid.

pauldrake
pauldrake
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

Why do you hang around here? Doesn’t some left wing politician wherever you live need your beta blue boy help?

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  pauldrake

i’m just a student of insanity, and I’m trying to comprehend this community, and what could possibly bring someone to such a sad, embittered, credulous state of mind to swallow this drivel. People here seem to idolize this Roosh character, this OCD/borderline autistic Iranian-American expat who couldn’t ever get a girl in the States so now travels around economically depressed countries where, by his own account, he only every once in a while is able to get laid. Despite himself acknowledging that his game is pretty weak, and describing himself as someone who doesn’t know anything about anything except game and sports, you people hang on his every word, as though he is some kind of intellectual giant and/or someone who actually knows how to score with women. But he’s neither. So what on earth is the appeal? Is his only skill knowing his audience and being able to precisely pander to what they want to hear, despite it having little to know basis in fact and often clearly not reflecting his own views? Or is it just that, since you are friendless introverts who never so much as talk to real women but like to roleplay as such total alphas that you are above women, you can relate to a loser who can’t score with desperate third-world women but pretends to be a player? Is this really the best figurehead available to you people?

TyKo Steamboat
TyKo Steamboat
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

Reads like a man that follows Roosh V pretty closely himself…So whats your appeal, bro. Seems you comment here quite often (Roosh smiles & thanks you) … Also reads like a little man that has never enjoyed the pleasantries of foreign women, which, by the way, are far superior to that of your Yankee women.

The appeal is that he is a good writer & men that love women but are against the ideals of the brainwashed feministic cultures of the Angelo-Saxon worlds, can learn from his experiences & love the wonderful women of the Baltics, South America, Eastern Europe, Scandinavia, ect.

He also stands-up for men’s rights via ROK which are being overshadowed every year with time. He is a “man’s man” especially when you consider how he divulges his successes & failures which can then help other men learn with experience.

Hater

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  TyKo Steamboat

In other words, he offers hope to other unattractively, hopelessly awkward and unpleasant men who (despite every game and persuasion tactic known to man) are completely unable to convince or cajole an American woman into even a pity fuck that, were they to become ex-pats and embark on long-term sex tourism in economically and socially backward countries, they might eventually find a desperate, gold-digging, illiterate woman who would actually consider having sex with them. Or, at the very least, that they could invent stories about sleeping with these idealized poor foreigners and relate them to this credulous audience, at least having one or more other angry virgins on the internet believe that they are “alphas.”

Ultimately, this is just my lunatic internet subculture chuckle of the week. I have to say, in general, you guys are a full step beyond My Little Pony enthusiasts in delusion, sexually confusion, a self-defeating way to deal with autism and other social dysfunction, and, for all your lip service to the concept, a complete lack of anything resembling masculinity.

meh
meh
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

I think your Social Justice Warrior girlfriend is mewling for you again. Time for your nightly pegging.

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  meh

Chin up, dude. It’s never too late. If you can walk away for this asylum and change most everything about yourself, you have a good chance of having sex at least once in your life. I bet you won’t even have to go searching for poor, illiterate gold-diggers in impoverished countries like Roosh.

meh
meh
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

Just a little more lube and maybe it won’t hurt tonight. Although she loves to see you bleed, and you love to make her happy.

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  meh

Hey, if this fantasy is what it takes for you to be able to jerk off tonight without crying, go for it, buddy. I know the whole penis-in-vagina mechanics are so foreign to you that you can’t even summon the concept for masturbation. Maybe one of your super-alpha virgin buddies from this site will hold you and whisper the doctrines of hypergamy and the evils of educated women while you try to get hard. That’s one thing you can say about you true masculine men’s men: you may not understand women, but you all understand courtesy handjobs.

meh
meh
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

My My the bitch doth protest too much. I suggest ID Glide for best results.

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  meh

You would know, friend.

meh
meh
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

I thought you said I wasn’t getting any. You can’t have it both ways fucktard.

meh
meh
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

I patiently await your homophobic gay slur response. Where is it, fucktard?

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  meh

Oh there’s no need for that. Your presence here suggests that you never get sex of any kind, hetero- or homosexual. But you do seem very familiar with the mechanics of inserting things into your rectum. Hey, whatever you need to overcome your self-pity and feelings of inadequacy. I’m not judging. I really support you wannabe alpha celebate types exploring all the options of masturbation, since that’s your only possible sexual outlet. Do you, son.

Nick
Nick
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

FAAAAAAAG

TyKo Steamboat
TyKo Steamboat
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

Conclusion is that you’re either a female commentor hiding behind your name, fat & angry.
Or your dad wasn’t in your life. One of those 2 things.
I’ve dated many of these Slavic & Baltic flowers in USA & abroad. It’s a rewarding experience.
Hard to fathom why an actual man would have such a hard time with the writings of another man expressing what many of us have either experienced ourselves or are curious/considering…then after you try, it’s obvious that dating women from Slavic nations is a far better experience. & these women exist in USA too. 🙂 They’re in all major cities & small resort towns.
Don’t get me wrong… I will bang a Yankee girl that’s a 7 too & I even date them too…on Fridays thru Sundays… 😉
If you were a man (obvious you’re a female commentor) I’d urge you to go foreign, experience the rush & live the dream! =D

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  TyKo Steamboat

I’m a man from a very stable family, who received a proper education, and has never had any difficulty having sex with beautiful, educated, and independently successful American women. I just think it’s laughable that you guys are desperately trying to rebrand and save face about the fact that your only prospects of sex occur through traveling to impoverished nations to find women desperate to attach themselves to any man with an American passport. If that’s the dream, you have such low aspirations.

TyKo Steamboat
TyKo Steamboat
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

Suuuuure you are…riiiiight.

So if you love your Yankee women so much, “David” then why do you care so much what other mens’ tastes are? Why do you feel compelled to mock other “educated” men that have experienced both Domestic & Foreign women? Because I have, as many of us here, extensive experience with both.

Take your diploma & enjoy your future Yankee wife after she divorces you & uses it as her toilet paper on her way to taking you for half of whatever you’re worth & enjoy all the grief she puts you through down that same road. Funny how you mock decent men that have actually experienced the lovely women of the East as you surely have no frame of reference because you’re a female commenter.
“Rebrand” & “Save Face” … wow… David Alvaro you look like a total clown here…hahahahaha

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  TyKo Steamboat

Because that’s literally what this is. Roosh was all about American women until he had to come to terms with the fact that none of them wanted him, and then he pretended to decide that he didn’t want them either. Then he went around Europe, and every country where he was totally rejected, he went around saying that those women were disgusting. He apparently was able to find a few women in Ukraine who fell for his bullshit, so he made it up to be a paradise, but even now he’s losing that and is acting like Ukrainian women are nasty too now. Hey, if the only way you can get laid is to find desperate foreign women, go for it, but quit pretending that you’re doing it for any reason other than the complete rejection you get from all other women.

You guys are all so caught up in this echo chamber asylum, that when someone who actually has no problem having fulfilling sexual relationships with women inserts his perspective, you are all sure he is a female troll or some kind of Jewish spy plant. Do you ever interact with normal human beings in the real world? Surely a few of you must have jobs, right?

TyKo Steamboat
TyKo Steamboat
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

Sure you are….Riiiiight.
So if you’re such a lover of Yankee women, we’re not going to fight you for them. They’re all yours. I, as many other readers here, have extensive experience with women both domestic & foreign. & if you’ve never dated a woman from the East, then what do you care what other men think? You have no frame of reference. Because you’re an obvious female commenter.

Experience trumps your “Education”. Enjoy your diploma down the grief-filled path on your way to a divorce after your “beautiful” American woman takes you for half of whatever you’re worth.

Now I leave you to get the “last word” in as I know you Yankee women like to do.

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  TyKo Steamboat

Right, dude. Men with “extensive experience with women” hang on the insights of an admitted lousy pick-up artist like masters of industry go to adult education classes for business tips. No man who knows how to attract women would come to learn how, every once in a while, Roosh is able to (allegedly) score with a faceless woman from a wartorn and unstable nation. This comment section is a massive collusional LARP session, where everyone consents to not questions everyone else’s claims of masculinity and sexual success, despite the face that the only possible reason a man would be here is (besides to laugh at you all) is that he’s a desperate virgin seeking any angle he could possible find to, just once, see a woman naked.

ATC
ATC
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

Your “talk like a straight guy” module needs to be updated to stop using “consents” as a verb. Free advice.

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  ATC

Have conversations with real people outside the confines of your self-help therapy sessions with other hostile virgins and you might have a sense of how actual straight guys talk. No matter how much you can convince your fellow inmates that you are a true masculine man, if you never sleep with a woman, you loose sight of how those of us who do speak.

ATC
ATC
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

received a proper education

Holy fuck, how did that go?

Teacher: David, tell the class what you learned about Ukraine.

“David”: Its women are illiterate gold-diggers!
Teacher: Aw, you’re so enlightened! What did you learn about Colombia?
“David”: Its women are idealized desperate illiterates!
Teacher: A+!

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  ATC

I’ve been to Ukraine, and I studied with a number of lovely Ukranian women when I was getting my doctorate. These are not the women Roosh is seeking (too-Americanized, he would say- no chance in hell, they would say). He’s scraping the bottom of a social class desperatte to escape that environment, and mostly (if not completely) striking out. A pretty pathetic aspiration figure.

ATC
ATC
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

Ukranian women

Aaand…he doesn’t know how to spell “Ukrainian.”

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  ATC

Oh my god, he made a typo! Burn him!

FormerCanadian
FormerCanadian
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

Oh, nice one:-) Please tell me WHERE in Ukraine you’ve been, what city you stayed in for your doctorate and what cities have you visited?:-)
Patiently awaiting your reply:-) I’m VERY familiar with Ukraine, so you are on a very thin ice here, pal:) Something is telling me that I ain’t gonna get no reply to my question:-)

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  FormerCanadian

I didn’t say I got my doctorate in Ukraine- just that there were a large number of graduate students and post-docs of Ukrainian origin at Columbia University during my Ph.D. studies. When I visited Ukraine, I spent most of my time in Kiev and Odessa, although I also visited a former colleague in the Cherkasy province. The Ukrainian women I met were educated, successful, Westernized, and nothing like the fantasy of the submissive, chaste, ignorant women with low standards being sought by this community.

FormerCanadian
FormerCanadian
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

Oh, Kiev and Odessa:-))) When did you get here, what year? What district of Kiev did you stay at? And where in Odessa did you stay?:-)
You see, I’m slow with my approach:)))
And who told you that this particular community is after submissive and ignorant women with low standards???
Strangely enough I find North American women stupid, ugly and ignorant with a ME ME ME FIRST attitude, but you seem to like them. So it’s your word against mine:-)
Waiting for your reply about the places you stayed at in Kiev and Odessa:-))

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  FormerCanadian

It was 15 years ago straight out of college, on a massive tour through Europe, where I wasn’t just focused on exploitative sex tourism like you lot. My itinerary is long since faded from memory. It is overwhelmingly apparent that the only reason this is even being discussed here is that Roosh and his even sadder disciples, having finally come to terms with the fact that they will never, ever get laid in the states, have gone searching for countries where they stand a chance. Having exhausted most of Europe, and with his (and this community’s) staunch racism, Eastern Europe has landed as their most hopeful chance of finding white women who don’t find them pathetic and repulsive. Nice emoticons, by the way. When do you start high school?

FormerCanadian
FormerCanadian
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

???????? What are you talking about??? I’ve been married for over 5 years! What exploitative sex tourism are you talking about????
Somehow I had NO doubts that your itinerary “is long since faded from your memory”:-) You are just following a pattern of North American feminazis meaning “avoid the question or play around it when you don’t have an answer”:)))
You feminazis are always the same, even your wording is the same and y’all resort to things like ” When do you start high school?” as soon as you have NO answer to the challenge.
I was gonna ask you some questions about Kiev and Odessa, but since you are a fucking feminazi and a liar I ain’t gonna do that!
Oh, and I’m a racist too, and proud of it!

ChimpGod
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

This mother fucker claims racism, yet when i posted mentioning “rap artists”, he goes on to refer to their “big black cocks”.. therefore assuming that the rap artists i mentioned are black? Or maybe all rap artists are black? You fucking racist, hypocrite piece of shit. You might want to check yourself, before you start accusing others. I follow Roosh, and he’s Iranian ethnicity.. i really could care less what race anyone is, as long as we are helping eachother. You, however, are a lyin.. sack of shit.. post pictures of you in Ukraine, and prove it. I bet you wouldn’t bad mouth roosh in front of him, or any of us.. i would be the first one to slap the shit out of you, Mr. Columbia PhD.. rrright..

FormerCanadian
FormerCanadian
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

Please tell me WHERE in Ukraine you’ve been, what city you stayed in for your doctorate and what cities have you visited?:-)
Patiently awaiting your reply:-) I’m VERY familiar with Ukraine, so you are on a very thin ice here, pal:) Something is telling me that I ain’t gonna get no reply to my question:-)

ATC
ATC
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

these idealized poor foreigners…illiterate woman

That’s the tell. Straight guys will call out women’s behavior, but we don’t make catty remarks about women just for being “poor” or foreign.

Not even your goofiest single-moms ‘n’ Lena lovin’ White Knight manboobs would make that kind of a comment.

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  ATC

That’s the tell of what? That I’m a womam, and SJW, or a Jew, I’ve been called all them, and more in here. You guys are so isolated from regular society that you think anyone wno disagrees with you much come from one of your enemies list, as though your crackpot theories represent men as a whole. It’s one of your great delusions
As a grad student in New York who did a great deal of traveling abroad, I encountered and worked with many intellegent, gifted women from nearly every country, women who would see someone like Roosh coming a mile a way and laugh at his sex tourist special needs game.
My remark was that Roos’s propects abroad don’t involve the intelligencia or upperclasses or even the minimally educated women of these countries, but the most desperate, disadvantaged ones that he can find. And, by his own admission, he strikes out with these women much more often that he is successful. No matter where we goes, women don’t want him, and he claims its because of the depravity of those women, rather than considering the possibility that his looks, personality, lack of a real career, and pathetic obsessions render him unattractive to all women everywhere. But since his fanbase comprises complete virgins, they are willing to accept and idolize him for his not very believable stories of occasionally being able to con poor and deperate EE women into sleeping with his nasty, affectless, thousand-yard-stare asperger persona, simple by flashing his American psssport.

ATC
ATC
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

David claims that game is a sham yet his writing continually displays dark triad traits like underdeveloped empathy (“chuckle of the week…autism”) and narcissism (“proper education”).

He’s like the guy who orders Chinese-made flags for a “Buy American” rally. Hypocritical, to say the least.

Robert Alvaro
Robert Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  David Alvaro

lol borderline autistic you mean yourself? Hello David.

David Alvaro
David Alvaro
6 years ago
Reply to  Robert Alvaro

Good one.

TheGuest
TheGuest
6 years ago

Rooshy,

I think it’s wrong to see life as “a quest for notches”, rather I would say that we lot tend to look for “life to be as exciting as possible”.

Collecting notches is exciting often enough (much less exciting through online game for example), but there are times we find ourselves wanting at least a temporary change from that specific quest.

Starting a family can also be exciting – for some people, at some point in their lives. Even for the thrill-seeking man, it’s a possibility, at the right point, with the right woman.

BangkokSlim
BangkokSlim
6 years ago

I don’t understand this “loneliness” problem that men have, to me its a sign of weakness. I’m the complete opposite, my love for solitude will always outweigh any kind of companionship. I like to get that ass and be on my way, otherwise you have a ball/chain and drama to deal with…..

I’m sure if Roosh ever shacks up he will soon long for the days of “BANG”

Mike
Mike
6 years ago
Reply to  BangkokSlim

How old are you? Past a decent level of socializing in my school and university years – but even back then with a need for lots of time on my own – I’ve enjoyed averaging only once or twice a week spent with friends, dates or lovers.

However at 37 (and only just now learning game) I’m starting to more frequently feel a desire for “companionship” beyond sex and a few hours of conversation here and there (still not pining the least bit for marriage and kids though, or even necessarily an LTR or successions of LTRs. Just women, one or more at a time, to share a bit more – but definitely not all – of my life with than I currently do).

BangkokSlim
BangkokSlim
6 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Hell, I’m 46 and I really have no desire to form a relationship with any woman other then for friendship and sex. The freedom of bachelorism is just so much more peaceful and exhilarating. What does one benefit from a LTR or marriage, from my perspective, mostly drama and heartache. Occasional intellectual conversations are never far away and you don’t even need a woman for that….

RedPillRenegade
RedPillRenegade
6 years ago

“…life will now become about receiving pleasure from dutiful work, hobbies
that challenge me, and connections from both men and women. Thank you,
Turkey, for helping me understand that.”

Well, that’s what the majority of men on this planet have wanted all along. So you’ve come full circle and become a normal man then.

pauldrake
pauldrake
6 years ago

I’m going to be honest, I think some guys on manosphere sites greatly exaggerate their so called “notch counts.” A couple of my buddies back in the day were real lady killers and I doubt that their lifetime conquests made it to 3 digits. Of course young girls today are easier but it seems like there was still a lot of banging in the 70’s and 80’s. I give you credit for being upfront whether you’re on a hot streak or cooling your heels in a Turkish hotel.