The Decimation Of Western Women Is Complete

A new song by rising Swedish pop star Tove Lo serves as a reminder to Western men how broken the current generation of women have become. Have a watch at this video:


The original version without the distorted vocals can be found here.

The song has a simple message: a young woman gets hurt by a guy and decides to ease the pain by going to the club, getting drunk, smoking reefer, and fucking random guys. This coping strategy doesn’t work too well in the video—a brief but visceral moment in the end shows her breaking down in tears as she wanders aimlessly in a drugged- out haze. We don’t know the guy who hurt her, but Taylor Swift can answer that in her mega-popular song Trouble, where she falls for a bad boy who gets into bar fights, is wanted by the police, and cheats on her in public view.

A generation ago, the behavior of Tove Lo would be seen as alternative, to say the least. To get over a man, a girl would typically cry alone in bed, write in her diary, listen to sad love songs, bake with her mother, and pray to God that the pain would ease. Now, we have the normalization of screwing bad boys to get over bad boys. If you flip the sexes, this is ironically the advice given to men studying game (“fuck ten girls to get over your oneitis”). Girls are finding that this does nothing more for them than decrease their ability to have relationships in the future, simply because women are not men. A lifestyle of whoring around is, surprisingly, completely destroying the worth of women as long-term partners, wives, and mothers.

It doesn’t need to be repeated, but girls like players. They like men who who have been approved (vaginally) by many other pretty women. But this doesn’t work the other way around. The more cock a girl has had in her, the less likely a man will want her beyond a basic lay, a fact that women are at least subconsciously aware of when they conceal their wildly promiscuous past to men they attempt to enter relationships with.

How would you feel if the girl you seriously liked, after breaking up with her previous boyfriend, fucked five guys in the course of a month, all of them at rapid speed, and let them experiment with her three holes as described in the popular “romance” books she has read, all while telling you, the man she is making work for her pussy, that she’s no longer looking for a “hook-up” and wants a man to be more chivalrous with her?

Unless you are the bad boy who gets to drill her quickly, I imagine your reaction would be the same as a girl’s if you told her the following:

“When I was younger, I always took girls to the most expensive restaurants in town, and occasionally I’d surprise them with a romantic weekend getaway to Paris in a private jet, but since then I’ve realized what is important in life and now practice minimalism. Snuggling up on the couch while watching romantic comedies on Netflix is far more meaningful to me today.”

She would undoubtedly feel robbed at being treated worse than girls of your past, as should you if discovering that you have to work harder for her body than men of her past.

This sluttification of women, which Tove Lo’s catchy song conveys as normal and even fun, is part of a culture where every man who seeks serious relationships with women is a soft cuckold, because he’s the last man in a 30-man gangbang trying to give tender kisses on the lips and labia of a woman who has been rode hard and defiled for years.

How can any man who approaches a girl today see her as more than a cum bucket? Because let’s be real: she has been serving as a cum bucket thanks to a perverse culture that methodically trains and encourages her to take buckets of cum from men who make her vagina tingle, all as a way to help her “grow” as a person, find herself, and become strong and independent, which means not sobbing for more than a day when the latest bad boy she fell for turned out to be a selfish person who didn’t value her beyond the sexual.

This is the girl who’s going to be your lifelong faithful partner? The girl who’s going to be the mother of your children? I cringe at that notion, as should all men. I rather be an evolutionary dead-end than let a whore be the mother of my child, but men today are being trained to accept the whore mother and to be the soft cuckold, the sucker that gets to buy the goods at full price even though it has declined 80% of value from its peak.

It’s amazing that in just three generations, women have gone from being potential wives and mothers to nothing more than fuck toys. Men used to meet traditionally minded virgins, but are now stuck with a seemingly unlimited pool of mediocre sluts who have been fucked in the ass by multiple men. This is complete and utter decimation of the female human. Men can no longer gain any meaning or value from a woman beyond sex, even if he is truly capable of being the world’s number one dad, and rest assured that the degeneracy that has so swallowed America whole will spread throughout the world from the trojan horse technology out of Silicon Valley.

How did this happen? How did we get to this point? A book can be written on the answer, but understand that trillions of dollars are to be made by destroying the feminine mother and putting a mindless and shallow consumer fuck robot in her stead. The finger can be pointed at the elite and their useful idiots for creating this environment, but the fact still remains that this is not a good time to be a normal man with the normal need to reproduce with a good woman who will stay loyal to him, raise his kids right, retain a thin figure, and take care of his home. A man who puts in triple overtime and travels abroad can find the exceptions, but for the lot of men in the Western world, there is no longer any meaning beyond casual sex that can be gained from women. These are end times for traditional pair bonding.

So on that note, I urge you to learn game, seduce these inadequate women, and try out those moves you’ve seen in porn, because that sex drive of yours is not going anywhere and must be sated for your own mental health. Beyond that, however, don’t expect much more, because women can no longer provide you with what women of the past so easily could.

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Trufax!

NothingMan00
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” I’d rather be an evolutionary dead-end that let a whore be the mother of my child”

Exactly. These whores are altering the evolutionary/biological course of reality. They aren’t entirely to blame, but their behavior will have serious consequences on the next generation and the ones that follow.

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We are all extremely grateful to Roosh and your type that you have decided to be evolutionary dead-ends. Thank you from all our chromosomes.

NothingMan00
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Thank us when you’re living in a nightmare world that you created. Enjoy spinsterhood!

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I live in a fantastic world, and my life is awesome, thank you very much. I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but a lot of people are reproducing, even if you have decided not to. I think that Roosh removing his genes from the evolutionary road is good for humanity, that’s all.

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well… I Aryan Jesuite did procreate with a whore and my offspring are now procreating with yours beautiful dora and the result are not pretty.

NothingMan00
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I can hear all those cats meowing from here!

Remo
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Ha ha ha! Yes – what you see now is what will be! The future is bright and the party just won’t end. You’ll be pretty forever and the ones you despise will keep working to make sure the lights are always on because you cupcake, are special and the natural world which you’ve been insulated against from birth will never harm you because snowflake.

dorabella
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Well, I am already well past my middle age, and my life is still pretty awesome. When is the doom supposed to happen, you reckon? so that I get prepared. Thank you for your help.

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dorabella is what they say happens at retirement homes true

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If you were a young girl, you’d be screwed with no future.

Since you’re an apparent Baby Boomer, you can bask in the comfort of completely fucking over future generations.

Do you have children?

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Smug middle-aged baby boomer moralizing not realizing the wrecking ball has been swinging back… swinging back… swinging back… and then that pivotal moment comes, playing out as if in slow motion

enjoy the collapse

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smug…..that fits and her comments perfectly

typical woman……I got mine, so you all are just losers.

on the bright side, men are waking up at a high rate and this bullsh*t is coming to a head real quick like.

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“moralizing”??? I’m laughing my ass off! hahaha Get a hold of yourself, drunkard.My life is great, and there ain’t a thing you can do about it. You want to leave the US? who the fuck cares!

YinYangMan
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Despicable.

chiiill
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It would be sad that the only women stupid enough to be willing to have sex with your hateful ass are also too stupid to make an effort to make money… if it wasn’t so funny.

YinYangMan
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Well put. Let them rock on to destruction.

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he was saying that to make a point.. if you haven;t noticed roosh has moved on to foriegn women a long time ago because thank fuck, there is an alternative to modern western women.

dorabella
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Great! It’s a win-win then.

don mario
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is it a win win if all western men did it and you have no men left ?? because when you compare western against foriegn women there is literally no competition. if guys actually opened their eyes( luckily for you this will never happen) western women would die out quickly.

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No, fuckwit, it’s a win-win if all men like you and Roosh stopped bothering western women and got the fuck out of the civilized world. And humanity as a whole will benefit from you guys removing your genes from the pool. I can assure you that guys like you are a tiny weeny insignificant minority, the world is full of wonderful men, handsome, strong, funny and smart. And none of them even know what a red pill or a PUA or a MRA is. Get the hell out of the west and join Roosh in Siberia, already.

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bit of an outburst wasn’t it? seems i have struck a truth nerve with you.

so what you are saying is the men that would choose a more feminine and more attractive girl with more values are the freaking minority? no you dumb slag, that is every man on the planet. how can you disagree with that?

and just to shit on you even more, i have not done any PUA or redpilling. i moved abroad for work, noticed i didn’t have to act like a jumped up prick to get a girls attention, girls that were less fat and had more values no less. and surprise surprise.. i didn’t come running back to busted fat feminist western women.

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Dora has probably had plenty of cocks explore her.. just like every other American skank, with a blown out vagina. The fact is, we have chosen the path less taken.. we have seen the truth and won’t take the bullshit.. we put down the punch and saw the fucking sea donkeys in the room (America) and jumped out the window.. these women are angry because we are winning. EE women always blush when I tell them how much better they are than their American “competition”.. haha that was a joke.. American hogs can’t compete. You don’t see Russian girls on here complaining, because we praise them and how they act.. they aren’t on here complaining because they take that energy and make themselves better.. Men need to set themselves up for a future overseas.. Use the American passport and novelty to acquire a job and connections.. start learning a useful language. Alright I’m stepping off the soap box.

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Peace, don’t let the door hit your ass on the way to whatever economically depressed place you’re going.

GreatCrooksOfMen (GCOM)
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America, in 15 years or less?

chiiill
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Heh. Now, really. But why would you want to go somewhere worse?

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What you don’t get is that civilization has always been a masculine enterprise, and it always will be. These 21st century leftists have the hubris to believe that they know better than the lessons of 4000 years of history. They are mistaken. These Strong Independent Women TM are completely dependent on the men who maintain the infrastructure. When enough men have left, physically or in their hearts, the US will not be a “better” place economically.There exists value that is greater than the ability to waste huge amounts of material stuff. The shallowness of your values is showing loud and clear here. And that is exactly why men are no longer wanting you for anything but a piece of ass.

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Amen brother!
Feminism = Gender Apartheid.

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And to add to that civilization and the idea of a world based on human progress is a masculine idea in of itself.

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You’re not an American are you

chiiill
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What makes you say that?

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Just want to point out, those “ladies” you meet in clubs in the EU have long, storied pasts as well. Perhaps they keep their pasts more securely under wraps, due to culture and language barriers, but no woman, anywhere, is associating with foreigners for pure and chaste reasons.

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I don’t just meet women in the club.. if these women didn’t have pasts why would they be at the club in the first place, especially hanging out with strange men ? Do you think I have some fantasy that all these club girls are virgins just waiting for some American to come along to steal her virginity ? Rrright.. for those of us with enough experience from going to EE, we can see past the bullshit.. it doesn’t change the fact the women are 100 times better than most of the ones here in the USA.. hey, but if you like fat entitled femenist cunts, by all means..

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My brother lived in Sweden with an HB9 self admitted slut. He ended up rejecting her and Swedish leftism, and married an Italian girl with more traditional values.

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Russian women? I was a student abroad in Moscow & the girls are just as bitchy as American girls. They blow up from a size 1 to a 15 right after you marry her. I’d rather date a pig back in America than date a Russian princess who expects me to buy her 200 buckets of roses, a Mercedes, or a Chanel. That goes for pretty much every white woman. Give me a sweet Japanese or Korean girl who won’t turn into a hag after 30. Oh, & unlike Russian whores they don’t drink or smoke like a man. That shit is gross as fuck.

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You were in Moscow.. Moscow sucks fucking balls. Its full of rich cunts, or cunts who want to be rich. You are right though.. the Slavic women start to melt at 30.. they literally turn into witches, physically. It is pretty gross when they smoke every 5 minutes, it gets old. You never marry them, you just fuck them while they are young and pretty.

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I love this. Gives me hope. And brings me back to even when I was mostly blue-pill and younger, traveling abroad, the girls were ALL OVER ME just for being who I was
Chinese
German
Austrian
French

Ok the Italian girls ignored me, but I didn’t have any game to speak of at the time. Looking back, that’s what they need.

Now I’m better, badder, cooler, funner, harder, faster, stronger, smarter, gamier, wiser, sexier, more stylish, wealthier, more traveled, more respected, and the owner of a small but growing business where I’m the boss.

Will return in my early 30s to that paradise armed with game, experience, and several million dollars as a self-made man. Cannot wait.

I ignore the ever-loving-fuck out of Western women, except to smirk at them and laugh at their attempts to bump into me at the supermarket

sorry, I don’t date fat hateful American feminists or anyone who benefits from the current shitstorm, or really, anyone who’s happy in this society, the way it’s set up.

Pretty much, if you’re content with the way things are right now in America, you are gonna probably overlap a lot with my personal definition of pure evil.

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I smirk too, especially when I see shame register on the faces of the www.
They know what they are brother.

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don mario, well said my good man.

go foreign bro and yee shall prosper

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We have travel options don’t worry

snowden_farted
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you are of course wrong….the MGTOW and Red Pill movement is growing by leaps and bounds.

check google trends for proof

I went foreign and date a Chinese girl.

….no comparison to American trash females

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Being an eastern men and a product of both cultures, I can say Roosh is right.Eastern women are amazingly beautiful and make great wives.

YinYangMan
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Phew, ja….the unsuspecting men. They will awaken and realise what a treacherous lot the www are.

Harry Puter
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Dora these bluepill men you are saying they end up as suckers married to cunts like you.

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LOL!!!

StephanieJCW
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It most certainly is a win win if all men like Roosh left our society. I just feel sorry for the foreign women who then get stuck with them.

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Roosh is right,in my gym I am constantly hit on by a middle aged woman who has two sons.One fine day by the swimming pool she said to me that she can leave her husband for me, and she is a beautiful blonde.I straightaway answered her that she can do the same to me tomorrow which annoyed her.

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Well said.

manmax
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Sure is

snowden_farted
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the win-win will be when your generation dies off….Baby Boomers will go down as one of the worst generations of human beings in US history.

eventually, the Millennial and Gen-X generations can take control and attempt to right the ship before it capsizes.

chiiill
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Does it really not worry you that you openly express desire to own a sex slave?

don mario
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A normal feminine non western slob is a sex slave is it now? Fuck off

chiiill
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A hyper-submissive relative child who doesn’t think for herself and is under your sexual control is essentially a sex slave, yes.

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i never said hyper submissive. i said feminine. if you interpret that to being hyper submissive and a child who is under sexual control then you are one fucked up slag, but that was not what i said or meant, quite obviously.

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Tell me how, according to your definition, a woman can be “feminine” without being submissive?

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feminine
ˈfɛmɪnɪn/
adjective
1.
having qualities or an appearance traditionally associated with women, especially delicacy and prettiness.
“the snowdrops gave a feminine touch to the table”
synonyms:womanly, womanlike, ladylike, girlish, female; More

2.
GRAMMAR
of or denoting a gender of nouns and adjectives, conventionally regarded as female.
noun
1.
the female sex or gender.
“the association of the arts with the feminine”
2.
GRAMMAR
a feminine word or form.

not once does it say submissive.

chiiill
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So if you found me pretty, you’d consider me feminine?

don mario
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a part of you maybe..all of you, NOPE.

chiiill
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So “femininity” is associated with submissiveness in your mind, then? Or what else is it?

manmax
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you really do need help

chiiill
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With what? You seem to need help with verbal clarity…

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do not feed the trolls

chiiill is a troll, and a bad one at that

chiiill
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I’m really not trying to be offensive for offensiveness’ sake; I’m saying what I honestly believe.

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A woman is feminine if she understands that men and women are different, have complementary strengths and weaknesses, and is comfortable with and even embraces her womanhood., and appreciates the value of the masculine.
The leftism that denies human nature led in the 20th century to the killing of 100 million people under communism. Cultural Marxism in the West is going to have the same result. Sorry, the SJWs, PC totalitarians and feminists do not know better than the wisdom of our ancestors.

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Depends…i find the Mona Lisa to be quite beautiful but Mona leaves a lot less to be desired

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I’ll just come out and say it
if she wants access to my incredible sperm, my good health, my deep store of hard-won wisdom, my skills as a potential father, and my vast self-made fortune,

she’s gonna fucking submit to me, because I’m the MAN with the GOODS and she’s the WOMAN with the WOMB

I can replace her, she can’t replace me
The end

chiiill
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Sounds like an attractive life decision. /s

Marshall
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Please don’t succumb to the “special snowflake” mentality. We are all replaceable. One in a hundred billion. Work to build something irreplaceable; history, family, shared hardships.

manmax
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Darling you could see a counselor for the control issues you have you know

chiiill
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What control issues? I’m in an egalitarian relationship.

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see chiiill troll

troll chiiil trool

femine does not equal submissive

you have shown your colors (feminista)

now get the f*ck out….the cats are hungry

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I never made a secret of being a feminist. It’s nothing you should hide.

Why do you want me to leave, if your ideas have value, couldn’t they stand up to criticism? Or do you prefer a lazy, comfortable echo chamber?

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because feminism is a sickness

you are sick and your ideology has twisted your mind and helped to bring the US to the current sorry state of affairs we find ourselves in.

let me guess….you are lesbian as well or is it gender neutral?

Jezebel was created for women like you – go there and roll around in the mud with the other pigs.

chiiill
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Sweet, you’re also homophobic and draw conclusions that make no sense.

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no, not homophobic, more indifferent and to each their own.

the hard core feminist on the other hand are typically man haters and that typically means lesbian…these are also typically the only types that would go onto Rooshv.com and blab on and on like you are doing.

you strike me as a hard core feminist and have posted multiple times on this therad, thus my assumption that you are a lesbian….well, are you?

you see sweetie, this is what men call logic….taking in data and making logical judgements based on the data.

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It’s homophobic to imply that all lesbians are bigots who unilaterally hate men. Also, I’m not a lesbian. I’ve been with my boyfriend for two years. We’re pretty happy, and a major contributing factor in that is that we respect each other as people.

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chiiill just curious here. Is your boyfriend lanky, does he have a long beard, talks with a lisp, is Irish with red hear, has a masters degree and has a crush on that girl from the Hunger games

chiiill
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No. He might have a crush on JLaw, but he’s never mentioned one. Otherwise you’re definitely zero for six.

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probably wears skinny jeans and has an Obama sticker on his Prius…lol

Marshall
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My friend, please do not hate on the Irish or Gingers. It will not go well for you.

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Have some fucking humour…..RED

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I’ll take this challenge. You’re over-exaggerating the “submissive” part of the traditional and evolutionary role of a female (we are talking in general, there are always exceptions) as if every person ever to submit to a hierarchy is either the tyrant or the “child.” That’s frankly idiotic and you need to read more. Hierarchies are fine and it’s not dishonorable to submit to one. See: history. evolution. animals.

Feminists act like the most effective and efficient relationship in the world is the “equal” relationship. Tell me, where are the fortune 500 companies with no boss? Where is the military with no general. You reject hierarchy as a successful mechanism for keeping a relationship safe and forward moving. That’s fine. Be the exception. But don’t try to tell me that as a rule, hierarchical systems don’t work or that anyone who is not the top is by default a “child.”

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Submissive is not always a bad thing. Doctors are “submissive” to their patient’s health beliefs and goals, it’s called bedside manner. Detectives are submissive to a suspect to gain trust and information. Lawyers are often submissive to clients to gain trust and an upfront fee. Salesmen of all goods learn to meet the customers needs. Waiters, nurses, teachers, priests, architects, web designers, we all practice submission to meet the needs of others and thereby, our own. It’s called maturity and ego integration.

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Why You talking about children? There are forums out there for you kind of people.

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Because most people here think they should have sex with 18-year-olds or 20-somethings when they’re decades older. In a relationship, that’s a relative child. That person will by definition have drastically less life experience and power. Why is that attractive? I was saying that’s bad, in case that was unclear to you. It’s sick.

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But they do marry at 13 and shit, in Mexico. It’s culturally acceptable. Who am I to say their culture Is wrong ? He said Mexican states.. not USA. You say 18-20 year olds are little kids ? Women mature faster over there.. and 18 is an adult.. maybe you were immature.. How envious we are of young women.. Age is a curse you can’t accept.

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It may be culturally acceptable, but given what we know about human development (and Mexico!), it’s still wrong.

I say 18-20 year olds are relative children when compared to a 30-50 year old, yeah. Women do not “mature faster over there,” especially when they do not accomplish basic developmental tasks like forming an identity because they are always under the thumb of some sicko.

Perhaps you’re jealous of men who are not bigots? Makes just as much sense as saying I’m jealous of barely-out-of-their-parents’-house-age women who are being taken advantage of by twisted older men.

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You bigot what the fuck made you an expert on Mexican culture. You have no right to criticize them as a privileged white person

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Not an expert, but more informed than most white Americans. I work with a lot of people from Mexico, have been to non-touristy places, and speak the language. Most people in Mexico would consider it sexually abusive for an adult to have sex with a 13-year-old. Are you seriously contesting this?

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No, i’m not. Things do suck for the lower class Mexicans. They do what they have to do to survive. The problem with Mexico is that large parts of the country are controlled by various drug cartels who worship a goddess of death(its a demon if you ask me) and the normal civilians are defenseless against them because they have guns. If they had second amendments rights like they do in Texas the civilians could have fought back against the cartels control because the government has largely been impotent in dealing with them.

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Ok. I know. There are militias fighting them as well, but it’s a David and Goliath situation.

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In my vocation, I’ve seen a lot of teens be effective, mature adults and many who can’t manage basic activities of daily living from all cultures. Some individuals are wonderful parents at 14 and some can’t handle voting and drinking at 21. It’s not culture or race dependent. It’s actually about native intelligence, which varies tremendously across the human spectrum.

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you nailed that one

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most people here think they should have…18-year-olds or 20-somethings when they’re decades older…That person will by definition have drastically less life experience and power… Is that attractive?

why yes. yes it is. so long as it’s not an actual child, nor a whored up vampire harpy witch masquerading as one. beauty and the beast, innocence and the adonis master, inexperience and the drastically unfathomably illimitably more powerful. you know it so deeply, you can’t help but be drawn to asking us to explain what you want so insatiably.

it won’t be you, that’s impossible. but it might be one of us, that’s time’s tale to tell, not yours. tempus fugit. det mulieribus nihil.

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Does this prove it’s attractive, or that influential men in history have been borderline pedophile psychos?

tempus.fugit
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what do you think?

remove the ‘or’ like i told you. exchange the ‘psycho’ for ‘master’, like i told you.

still doesn’t apply to you. still is a tale only time can tell, not you. time flees. give women nothing.

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Ah yes, “paedophile” – the new 21st century Western Femi-Nazi name for “normal male sexuality”.

Marshall
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Normal male sexuality does not include pedophilia. Ever.

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It doesn’t include but it has been “included” because of this smelly cunt women who are suffering with feminism, a new combined name for “inferiority complex + entitlement + low self esteem + week + vulnerable + useless + bitchy + arrogant” !!!!!

Their only purpose: to get banded and to breed.

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haha, you’re a fuckin moron
go home
just go, the adults are talking here

chiiill
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You stay classy.

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My god you have really thought that hyper-submissive relative child thing out haven’t you.

Whose the perve here again? I’ll give you a clue it rimes with biiill

chiiill
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It’s not really that complicated.

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There are people who are into BDSM

Expand your horizons chiiill

chiiill
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There are, and it’s difficult to pull off in a healthy, ethical manner. That’s why they have discussion/support groups to help them.

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Amen.. preach it brotha!

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Yep, your taxes are helping the immigrants.

And thank you for the future hot latinas.

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Teenage Latinas may be hot, but they don’t age well. That’s why so many Mexican states let girls marry at 13 — they’ll be 300lbs by 18. Also, boys inherit IQ more from their mothers than their fathers, so if you want dull-witted sons, marry a Latina. Marry your own latitude or north of it if you want smart kids.

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And racist too! What a charmer.

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Look the pot calling the kettle black

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she is trolling…don’t feed her

chiiill
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If I am, so are you.

chiiill
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When did I get overtly and proudly racist like that guy?

manmax
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You racist !! how dare you insult Mexican women like that

Gene Boris
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the truth is racist

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fiction. wisdom and knowledge of the world comes from the father. without, autistism reigns supreme. single mothers rise with autism and autism rises with single mothers.

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Nothing to do with poverty, eh?

tempus.fugit
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truth.

life eaten by single mothers, without fathers, without wisdom and knowledge, is poverty. once chosen, systematic inescapable destitute autism arises. whether aspergers, manginas, or worse, still, the course of failure is unalterable for all but the vanishing few.

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Autism rises with the fathers’ age. Fact.

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“a lot of people are reproducing”

Birth rates in developed countries are at record lows. Only 3rd world countries are reproducing now at any levels. Men are dropping out in developed countries at an alarming rate from reproducing.

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And btw, not everyone is reproducing. Look at Japan’s birthrates.. Switzerland.. any superior economic country in Western Europe. People from shit hole countries are reproducing.. they flood these nice countries and squirt out their brood at an alarming rate..

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you say you live in a fantastic world yet you come on roosh V only to tear others down. You fooling yourself? because you are not fooling us

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you’re welcome,

From the red pill community

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roosh puts it out there in stark, harsh terms………but the truth is the truth………face it and fix it or live with it

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Hopefully you have made the same choice.

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Thanks for sending me your selfie. OMG gurl….ur like…. so hawt !!!!!!!

http://media-addict.hu/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Mama-June-Honey-Boo-Boo.png

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That’s right. Don’t you understand that Tove Lo is only doing what she does because she is a victim of a man? It’s not a matter of free will; if it wasn’t for that man abandoning her, she would make a perfect partner!

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Yes!

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Always puzzling how roosh and you take pride in acting like the whores you despise (while you shouldn’t) – and then wonder why you only find women who match you, and don’t want to breed with them.
If love is only possible when the other is dependent of you, has no career, can’t divorce or cheat, then men were never lovable.
When someone is brought to such a dead end conclusion by such bad logic, wow, Let’s just try albeit hard not to celebrate too obviously so not to make some of you change your mind.

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Learn English.

sasha
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Learn mental flexibility around small syntactic mistakes.
Honestly. It is a more useful skill than perfect english.

NothingMan00
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When those “small syntactic mistakes” make it impossible to understand what you’re trying to convey, no amount of flexibility will help.

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It’s not impossible to everyone. Don,T be so proud it’s impossible to you

NothingMan00
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I’m 400 pages in to Finnegan’s Wake. It’s more readable.

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i’m sorry that is the most complex thing you are able to understand.

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You are probably missing most of the book’s subtelties too.

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Yes, I am having a hard time with the most difficult book in the English language. A book that, at best, maybe 1 in every 2 million people on the planet has read.

You are an idiot.

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#nohymennodiamond

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Hahahahaha

The Toyim are all mine. They are my Toys for life.

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wow is the spaced out crypto anti-semitism? Toyim code for Goyim? What I wonder about is if the “warrior heros” anti-semites think themselves to be are so proudly defiant and all, why don’t you just say what you mean, that you hate somebody based on race, that you’re a troglodyte incapable of judging an individual on his merits, so you seek a scape goat group to take things out on.

Be glad you don’t have polio, moron. A Jew invented the vaccine, working his ass off in a lab.

Just repeat after me, “I am a racist, but I’m glad I don’t have Polio.”

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The “Jews”/Ashkenazi Khazar Rothschild Zionists (read Facts Are Facts by Benjamin Freedman) have control of the agricultural markets and are putting gmo seeds in the crops, high fructose corn syrup in most processed foods, etc in what they sell the goyim.

People don’t hate Jews but how can any intelligent person not notice how they work in concert to screw other groups but their own. Sen. Jacob Javits signed and created the policy to flood America with illegal aliens but don’t play your little word games and try to discredit and harangue reasonable people’s dissent over sociopath levels of engineered evil.

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I’m not glad so many people were genocided

66 million Christians in Russia
10 million in the holodomor

etc.

Fuck off you cowardly cunt.

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Seth datta’s “crypto anti-semitism” is from not being able to get any pussy from London girls — even with the “five master’s degrees” he supposedly has, hahaha.

Seth used to complain about the London Zionist bankers and the unemployed Pakistanis who steal away the women he should rightfully be sleeping with…. so he gets his revenge….. by commenting here.

It’s so much easier than actually pulling together his life and getting his shit together.

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You must be JDL/SPLC squad – you follow my comments.

Its easy to be a lying, murderous, slanderer who is destined for hell. You should repent to God and apologise to your victims. Your time here on this planet is limited and in time you will suffer for your evil.

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Right, because Gentiles NEVER invented any vaccines, antibiotics, sterilization, X-rays, etc., and indeed, we can be sure that, if not for Chosen Ones Salk and “Sabin” (Saperstein) we’d never have a vaccine for polio.

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#smallcocknorock

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what does that even mean?

dorabella
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It means that if you have a small cock, no woman will want your “rock” on her finger.
Do you need a picture, or you think you got it now?

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bucket cunt- no sex you disgusting pig.

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see dorabella troll

troll dorabella troll

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Is it trolling to come to a comment section just to call people trolls? I’m going to go with yes.

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How nice of you to leave me your selfie. I don’t exchange pictures with strangers, unfortunately.

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This is what is actually going on in her head:

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Now grandma you know that’s how grandpa proposed to you

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I would add that social technology and the constant barrage of attention has made them so utterly dependent on validation that they go can’t minutes (seconds?) without it. Girls nowadays simply don’t know how to cope with being alone.

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Roosh, when I finished reading this article of truth, I stood up and applauded you.

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The menstrual blood from a woman in Toronto is more saner than the sexist and slanderous article he wrote about women. Roosh is a loser

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And you’re an idiot.
It is exactly how he lays it out.
Women do everything to lose their worth in the eyes of self-respecting men, and then demand to be taken care of for a lifetime.
It is not sexist any more than saying guys do not want sluts, and women do not want losers.
Do you have an argument, you troll?

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Yes, he’s a loser — as are all Western men. Men have been made losers by default because of an environment where women have ruined themselves for the future. What is there to win, after all? Future alimony payments? But what does it say when college-educated men with good prospects have all been declared “losers?” What does that tell you about the larger society?

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Child support, alimony, half your retirement gone? Pick your poison.. I constantly try to unbrainwash coworkers.. most of them are finally seeing it.. or they are all married and it’s too late.. they realize it now though.

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married and it is too late is most folks

the younger generation is where we have hope

those of us over 30 and up are to set the example, and show the younger men what happens when you stay away from American women and focus on your career and self, and when ready, going abroad for a traditional woman.

…..or learn the hard way and let a used up b*tch take you for a ride and surrender 50% + of your assets and receive part-time custody as the admission price.

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toronto, nuff said.

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Fufill God’s plan for your life. Eat shit and die, cuntcake.

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“more saner”???!!!

U R A Douchebag.

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Really?! A loser? Where’s your websites, books, business investments, etc? Roosh is a winner cause he doesn’t kiss your ass or seek his validation from you idiot sluts. He’s building a successful business model while the best you can do is ridicule and shame him. Ridicule all you want, while Roosh is laughing all the way to the bank. Oh, and he’s not spending his money on some sluts shoe collection. Scares you, doesn’t it?! MGTOW!

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Following your crackhead logic then Toronto is the Roosh of all cities in the Western Hemisphere.

Go eat some Poutine and tell us all about your gift to the Universe of being a Marketing Analyst or Human Resources Coordinator as we all need the hear the depths of erudite wisdom that flow from your elegant, feminine honey suckle lips.

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I am one of the nicest faithful man/husband you will ever meet. After gaining 60 lbs woking 60 hrs/wk as a health care worker for 15 yrs my wife dropped me like a hot potatoe becuse she doesnt want to be seen with a fatty (shes a 9 even after 2 kids). I wallow in self pity for 2 fckin years till I came across Roosh books, and the 10 must read books he reccomended. I pick up myself, ballroom/ salsa danced to loose the weight (I was a dance instructor b4). No self help book build up my confidence like Roosh Bang book. I had 1 GF b4 my wife, at 42 I cant believe I can still get laid(18 cunts and counting within one year). Half of them at least an 8. I m working on banging a 9 or 10 b4 this year is over.Roosh is a blessing to nice guys who used to finish last like me.

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You don’t need hate to have self-confidence. Don’t teach your children this bullshit. You’re (probably) better than this; hang in there.

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Too late about teaching my boy this shit. Im asian with a hot Italian chinese ex wife, My son is what we call a hybrid, Im still not sure if hes my son because Im average looking 5’7″ while he is 3 grades advance for his age, cocky, decent swimmer,6′ and insanely good looking half breed. For his 16th birthday, I gave him Roosh bang book, a box of condoms and told him this book could destroy him if he gets to be a teenage dad with std or get him to soar heights beyond his wildest dreams. The girls she notches now can grace any magazine covers, and are pretty smart too. Im kind of living my fantasy thru my son, never to be a womans doormat ever.

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Hope he never rebels…

Also, that is borderline sexually abusive.

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Borderline sexually abusive,????

My dad died when I was 10, I was raised by a mother who taught me how to be nice to everyone, in the end fullfilling the ultimate stereotype that nice guys finish last and still get divorce no matter how faithful or a good catch they are.

My kid has to rebel against my ex wifes efforts to duplicate what my mom did to me. I always tell him upon waking up and at bedtime nice guys finish last jerks get laid.Im just happy that despite being a nice respectful straight A, multisport kid his notches are insane for a 16 y/ o. I always tell him to imagine being butt ugly when he does game so he does not rely on his model good looks, coz the looks would go away but his game could be more sharper when the looks are gone.

I gifted my son weapons that would safeguard his sex life from being stale, his self esteem esteem from being crush and the love for self improvement books. HOW IS THAT BORDERLINE SEXUALLY ABUSIVE.

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You don’t seem like you were ever actually nice. ‘Why do these whores keep rejecting me?? I’m such a nice guy!” Really? No, you’re not, and we can tell how much you hate us, so we reject you.

“I always tell him upon waking up and at bedtime nice guys finish last jerks get laid.Im just happy that despite being a nice respectful straight A, multisport kid his notches are insane for a 16 y/ o.”

That is creepy as fuck right there. You should not be pressuring your 16 year old to have sex.

Let him discover his sexuality like someone going through normal development; don’t take that from him. Your son is getting robbed.

Teaching him to be a bigot is bad too.

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A pretty 17 y/o co swimmer seduced him at 14 and got him hooked to sex, I didnt teach him anything till his 16th birthday. His mother took him 300 miles away from me, Roosh books became our talking point regularly after hardly a fone call for 2 yrs. Thank you Roosh.

Comparing notches is better than zero communication between dad and son.

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I’m pretty sure he was a 14-year-old and could easily have been enthusiastic about sex with most appropriate partners he was attracted to. You don’t need to blame a 17 year old for that.

Wow, does your wife know about this? 0,o

Anyway, this is worse now I know you otherwise didn’t really have a thriving relationship. Now he probably thinks if he doesn’t sexually perform for his father, you won’t love him.

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don’t even engage with texting or talking to these narcissist cunts..that is the only time you WIN

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Teaching him to be a bigot is bad too?

Enlighten me pls on how im teaching him to be a bigot.

I should stop using the word nice guy since the synonym just happened to be nice guy =womans doormat.

I can never understand why my ex wife had 78 pairs of shoes, just like most western raised women are clueless about caring on keeping their men.

The more notches I have had, the more swagger In my walk, more confidence, promotions, nicer car and a better paycheck accompanied it. Too bad I only started at 41 Y/ 0. Imagine what a headstart a smart, model material, extremely confident to start with 16 y/ o gets. Im not robbing my son, Im equipting him how to thrive in this dog eat dog environment and come out on top.

Fuck morals, morals are but self doubt in disguise.

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This entire site and value system is about hating and being adversarial with women. If you’re a straight man, believing it is a recipe for an empty, miserable life. So are old-timey gender roles Iin general – why do you think the women you like expect you to buy them things all the time and be mostly dead inside? Oh right, that’s what limiting gender roles tell her to expect.

“Fuck morals, morals are but self-doubt in disguise.” I hope your son never parrots this back to you.

No response to the possibility that your son feels like if he doesn’t sexually perform for you, you won’t love him?

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If he doesnt perform sexually , I wont love him. WTF!!!!!

Funny, my son is like a horny rabit on dangerous levels of anabolic steroids, between hitting the gym plus 2 hour/day swims (swimmer) his testosterone level is thru the roof. I dont need to push him to please me, he finds ways to relieve himself of that excess testosterone in his system, all on his own, helps that hes got 2-3 hottie gfs at her beck and call. In other words excessive amounts of testosterone does the heavy lifting for me.He doesnt need any prodding.

The mantra he placed in his room ceiling says it all, he sees it upon waking up and b4 sleeping “Alpha dogs dont aim to please, they are the ones to be pleased”. He placed it their when he was 12 maybe 13.

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It’s that you say it’s all you talk about. If you don’t talk to your kid about anything other than something performance-based, the kid is gonna feel pressure.

Also, you should probably educate this kid about consent, lest he ignorantly/brainwashedly rape someone and destroy his goldenboy lifestyle.

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Dont worry about him,got that covered, I’m the only one in the medical field, two of his uncles, one grandpa are liars, I mean lawyers. For starters among many other things he has been warned never to have a GF younger than him when he gets to be 18.

Do you even have a job, you have a rebuttal for every guy posting here. U getting paid by the femenazi to troll this place?

Believe it or not Im getting a BJ while posting in this forum right now. Not in my wildest dreams 2 years ago when I was wallowing in self pity it occured to me that my 42y/o dick would get some special treatment unless I paid for it by the hour. Roosh my sincerest thanks, I was getting to be a slave to the bottle and your book Bang gave me a 2nd chance to live.

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I’m getting a doctorate and am semi-on vacation. I have practicum, which is like a job, and I worked there today. I normally have class on Monday, but school’s out. You apparently have a job, and have also been replying…

You should also link him up with stuff about affirmative consent, which is actually hot, and could save his ass from doing something horrible that without it he couldn’t be bothered to wonder if he was doing.

What does your … whatever you call her think of you posting right now? Does she masturbate alone afterwards?

I used to be in a full-blown abusive relationship that involved intricate manipulation and poisoning for most of it, and then a night of extreme overt violence. I honestly believe that it was only possible for him to mindfuck me that way because I was so young (17-22) when I got into this “serious relationship.”

Later, there was stalking. I became extremely systematically isolated, and when I escaped, I rediscovered the world, and yes, that included having sex with multiple successive people when I wanted to and when the circumstances permitted. That does not make me worthless; it was incredible to discover that my life trajectory and sexuality could be my own. If you want to have your “second chance to live,” as I did, I condone that, and reasonably expect it to be mutual.

What I don’t condone is dehumanizing the people who help you. (You ungrateful fucking bastard.)

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Practicum is a job now???? Im way behind the times.Weve got a running mantra/ joke in our family ” Anyone who gets a B will be disowned and exempted from any inheritance, no excuses.B+ is not equal to A-.Well, whatever floats your boat definition of a real job.

I ‘m not enroute to any higher learning, getting a masters in public health years ago was more than enough. Makes me mad as hell everytime I recalled how much feminism was in the curriculum and how it emasculated me and made me feel guilty for being a sexual being. No wonder all the Phd male mentors we had are gay, openly gay. They had to adapt to survive in that toxic environment.The department head was a total tool, to put it mildly she was a feminazi to the core.

Be careful about higher learning, better pay but may lead you to have more looser screws in the head.

BTW, she did not masturbate, Ive got madskills to compensate for my small dick. Shes sleeping like a very contented baby.

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I’m doing things that people get paid a lot of money for, and often doing them better. Being a graduate student is an occupation for a time. Although B’s get degrees, I’m an A student. I still think your family sounds kind of shitty.

How in the hell does treating women like people emasculate you or make you feel guilty for being sexual? The problems that feminism critiques, that you are likely referring to, are brute force social dominance and dehumanization in society and sexuality. None of that needs to emasculate or guilt you for sexuality unless you have fused unreasonable dominance and dehumanization with your gender identity and sexuality. Challenging assumptions might make you slightly uncomfortable, but isn’t that what school is for?

The gayness of the PhD male mentors is likely related to selection bias – the fact that that’s a lot of work, and “masculine men” don’t typically want to do work that takes a lot out of you and doesn’t involve nauseating amounts of accolades. It’s relative comfort, intense glory, or nothing for these self-proclaimed “masculine men” (reasonable, hardworking men don’t tend to spontaneously, explicitly describe themselves that way). Also, wait a second, what the everloving fuck? Did you just say that going to grad school or being a professor can make you gay? Your ideas may be more primitive than I realized.

“feminazi”

#Godwin #BillOReilly

So she didn’t just blow you; you actually sexually reciprocated. Yay. I thought you were talking about fellatio to ejaculation, then “huh, it’s over,” which is what is usually meant by “blowjob.” (This is a major reason why most women don’t like fellatio to ejaculation – that and dicks don’t really fit in faces without a lot of effort.)

By the way, your comment is really weird in that you didn’t really respond to most of my comment’s content, just criticized some small aspects of it.

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Why d fuck should I respond to every content of your post. I can nitpick all I want.

Feminism for me at its core molded men into nice yes dear passive guys, while rewarding the outliers, the jerks with abundance of pussy.so plentiful they had to swat it away. The yes dear men gets to see pussy on their birthdays and valentines if they are lucky.Feminazism to me kicked out men from the house literally and figuratively, young impressionable boys raised by mothers breed generations of spineless yes mommy boys. I should know, although death of my dad cause me the absence of a father figure, my mom unknowingly got into the feminazism bandwagon.

One of my best friends who I gifted the book bang, save his marriage becsuse he went against the feminist ideas his wife got enroute to higher learning. In his own words my wife said” of course I want you to stand up against me and not roll over like a doormat”. Still I see in the family dynamics she wants him to be a doormat everytime, that PHd in her name somehow became a license to humiliate. And to think my friend was the real doctor in the family, an Md Phd at that.Roosh strategies in Bang helps him deal with her newly acquired high horse tendencies instead of divorcing her ass.

I wasn’t a total yes dear guy before I finish my masters. After finishing I became a total doormat after taking hookline and sinker the feminism ideas from grad school. Surprise surprise. My wife dump my yes dear ass for a “shit no way bitch” jerk who does not have a job. Not one of the highly reccomended shrink help at all, thats why I follow the gospel of Roosh, he save me.

BTW higher learning does not make one gay, but it can possibly lead someone to mistake the loosening of screws in their heads for enlightenment . Or worse use their command of writing to twist facts to further their argument to make the other person look like a bigger asshole

Painting this forum with the broadest brush you got as pure evil just further the resolve of the non hardcore Roosh believers to be real Roosh fanatics.

Finally practicum for me is like an internship. Do you even know how many post you got here, gazillions, the sheer volume and elaborateness makes me think your just a bitter troll posting from your mothers basement, but again I could be wrong.

Again a B+ is not an A-. Repeat after me practicum is not a job. You will get a real job allright if your really enroute to your Phd. Turning men into yes dear puppets (with the promise of pussy on birthdays and valentines) employment oppurtunities abound for your kind of mindset.

Got to go, I’m gonna ask my exwife if she would honor her promise of pussy on christmas.

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It’s just interesting how you’re selectively listening. Wouldn’t it be obnoxious if I totally ignored your intense personal story?

It is like an internship, but it takes up time like a job. You seemed to be implying I had tons of free time. I do right now, but not usually.

“Got to go, I’m gonna ask my exwife if she would honor her promise of pussy on christmas.”

“You owe me!” So sexy. Enjoy.

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WTF,

You got at least 10 post christmas eve, get a life, a dog, or dildo, perhaps a real job.

BTW dont owe you anything. My exwife whose 300 miles away from me slammed the phone when I asked for pussy. She was on speakerphone.

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Hmm. In the morning of Xmas Eve, when nothing was going on.

You actually called her and asked her? That’s the WTF.

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Pretty funny, I was the gracious host on christmas. I was watching the NBA games with my 2 brothers, dad, and 2 other guys I grew up with in my man cave.

We were not drank yet, the ladies were upstairs, kids of limits from mancave in the basement.Imagine how much fun one can get after a serious conversation over the speakerphone channeled thru my giant TV speakers, one asking for pussy, with snickering guys on the background, except for my saint of a dad. I even told her she can skype it coz shes 300 miles away. NOW IMAGINE IF SHE SKYPED THAT PEEPSHOW on sn 80 inch screen, that would be the best christmas ever. All my friends would owe me bigtime

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Wow, I thought Christmas was weird at my house because we played Cards Against Humanity.

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Usually people getting their “doctorate” are pretty good with proofreading peoples bullshit post. WHY NO COMMENT ON ME SAYING MY DAD DIED WHEN I WAS 10, then coming up with he watched the NBA games with us on christmas.

Your bullshit PHD story seems to be getting bogus every minute

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I didn’t comment on you saying your dad died when you were ten because you didn’t comment on me saying I was in an abusive relationship. I said, “It’s just interesting how you’re selectively listening. Wouldn’t it be obnoxious if I totally ignored your intense personal story?”

And then moved on to, “It is like an internship, but it takes up time like a job.” See what I did there? If my in-process doctorate is “bogus” because I ignored your intense personal story, your earned one is as well because you did the same thing.

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good, now that you’ve policed the sexuality of two people you’ll never meet

and

plenty of women LOVE fellatio to ejaculation
I’ve been with plenty who are downright obsessed with it

here, give me your phone #, I’ll forward the three most recent “I wanna suck your dick/wanna make you come” text variations I’ve gotten in the past month.

sounds like a personal problem or maybe a lack of skill on your part, or maybe you just don’t know how it feels to be lusty/in love to the point that you love making your mate cum

probably you could fuck some more strangers in bars and get a sort of similar effect. maybe

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Are these people sexually pleasured by getting jaw cramps, drooling, and almost throwing up, or are they perhaps trying to manipulate you? Seriously, which is more likely?

I don’t fuck strangers in bars; I’m in a relationship now. If I wasn’t in a mutually-agreed-upon romantic relationship and I did, it would be fine, and the fact that I used to years ago does not make me a bad or worthless person in any way.

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Are the JIDF or WAM paying you to post here, hasbara?

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Nope, I’m a volunteer. grin

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oh i get it, you recognize yourself in this site’s definition of a slutty, useless-as-a-mate woman

that’s the source of your constant attempt to “win” here (hint, never gonna happen)

it’s like watching someone argue with the dictionary over the definition of a word

“but that’s not what I WANT it to mean… I use that word differently”

too bad sugar, you fit the definition of a slutty, ruined, worthless-as-mate western woman and no matter how many words you spend on this site, you can’t take get back what you sold

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This site’s definition of slut or whore seems to be “a woman who has ever had sex before without being married.” I got that from another poster I pressed for a definition. Yes, I am someone who has been sexually active and not married, as are almost all women and men. That the word is used on this site to convey hatred and degrade women for something almost all women have done is one of the reasons this site is not just unreasonable, it’s clearly misogynistic and bigoted.

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I bet all if your story was made up in your mind so you can try to make another irrational point

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I can see why you were in an abusive relationship

poor guy…..thankfully he got away from you.

from the cut of your jib, i’m sure you deserved every bit of it and it looks like you are permanently damaged.

try Jezzebel or HuffingtonPost

they will make you feel nice and safe from the big bad men.

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So classy.

I was totally dedicated to him, which was a mistake. I’ve been permanently educated by my experience with him, and I’m now aware that there is a connection between misogynistic ideals, which you and he both expressed, and being an abusive degenerate. I’m glad I know this, although I wish the information could have come another way.

I enjoy a variety of websites, thank you.

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Seriously! Why are you even bantering back and forth with this delusional retard!? (meaning Chiiill). You are trying to speak reason with someone who is completely incapable of it. That could make “you” a fool. Just let Chiiill spout her idiotic and irrational rhetoric. All she does is prove exactly what Roosh has been saying in many of his posts

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Why are you using ablist slurs if you want people to respect you? wink

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Another point proven. Women who feel they know what men mean when they speak. What makes you think I desire your respect? How does that improve my life in any way? I know you desire to be a man (which is why women constantly compare themselves to us), just know that the way you interpret words does nothing for promoting dialog (with any rational or beneficial purpose) with anyone. The rhetoric you speak is clearly because you are so narcissistic that you love your own voice. Do you honestly believe that you would make “any” sense to someone who subscribes to this forum? Or is it that (like most western women) you just want to fight just to fight., regardless if it accomplishes anything?

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I definitely don’t think you want my personal respect, really, but I suppose I assumed you wanted it from someone.

I’m having trouble understanding the conclusions you’re drawing. If you’re interested in me understanding them, I suggest you explain the connections a little more.

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Once again..his points are proven with your constant attempt to try to make sense of something you can’t comprehend. First, my original post was not written to you (so why does your arrogance make you feel you “have” to respond to someone not talking to you?), second, if you re-read what I said, you’ll see that I said you proved other points he has made in “many” of his posts. Since you may not know what that means with your “superior” mind, that implies that there are other posts that were written that had points, which you are clearly proving. Now why don’t you stop embarrassing yourself even further and go to one if your feminist man-hating sites. You get no followers here!

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Is it that I can’t comprehend them because I am dumb, or because they don’t make sense, I wonder?

I didn’t feel I had to comment on your post; I just disagreed with something and wanted to make it known. I have just as much right to give my perspective as you do. Who’s arrogant?

I think we might have different definitions of proof.

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Why do you care if I think you’re dumb or not? You don’t even know me! Another point proven. Always looking for validation….and a fight. Well, I’m no fool. I’m done going back and forth with you. Why don’t you jump into another person’s comment to someone else so you can make yourself seem intelligent! Your irrational pseudo intellectualism is boring

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I don’t care if you think I’m dumb. I assume you do. I was implying your conclusions don’t make sense, so that’s why I don’t understand them. Have a nice night.

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Thanks for the advice.

Shes a a retard allright, on her way to get a bogus PHD. As a disciple of Roosh, i believe in making oneself better. Im trying to learn spanish, learn playing the guitar, master one ballroom dance move/week, prepare for my first half marathon and I used to love writing. An exchange of words even with a bogus phd to be helps me checkoff in my daily checklist to write something/anything for the day. I feel bad if I dont accomplish 90% of my to do list and that includes writing

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My son is assured of my love even if he stops notching which is very unlikely. The irony of having several gfs according to him is that women desire men already owned by others even butt ugly ones. Now the good looking smart jocks have the effects compounded.

I forgot to tell you on his 16th b-day the roosh book and the box of condoms came with the carkeys of my beloved 3y/o bmw convertible m3 car, he refused the car and we went to get him a used toyota fckin prius. Gave me the lame reason his buddies wont borrow a slow car and he wont get speeding tickets. Thats awesome confidence for a 16 y/o choosing to drive a grandmas car.. If one wants to please someone you dont refuse their gifts nor get a vehicle which is the total opposite of whats offered. Proud of him, he speaks his mind and knows what he wants.

Im not rich, use sports cars can be had if one buys a convertible when their is snow everywhere.

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The plot thickens! So your son is assured of your love because you bought him a car? And he wanted a Prius? Alternative theory: he didn’t want to announce to the world that he has a small penis and wanted to impress smart hippie girls with vegan diets, lustrous, never-dyed hair, and non-Purity-ring-oriented views of sexuality, so he steered you away from the midlife crisis mobile. He could have wanted to impress you by being clever. But this sounds like a fucked up situation, just sayin’.

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I guess he didnt want my leftover car which I babied for 3 years, a purchase made after my exwife drop me for a jobless musician, b4 I learned game. Guess he knows the advatage of having the looks and game, afterall one cant bring a midlife crisis car inside d bar scene.

One advantage of being a single man again, I dont have to fund someones obsession with expensive shoes. I can buy 2 loaves of subway for $10-12 bucks and get my whole days meal, splurge the savings on a sick car and make my whole house a man cave.Hell I even use the line when I got this hottie in my house asking what I do for a living” I’ll tell you but I have to kill you”. She said thats sexy, go figure.

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If you were going to a 40’s-ish bar, the car might work nicely, like a ring finger tan line. I’m not saying a car like that can’t be a badass hobby, but it is unlikely at this point in pop culture history to be helpful in “connecting” with most people sexually, unless, that is, they share your same niche interest. High school girls are unlikely to share that niche interest.

A major awesome thing about feminism is that it lets women buy their own damn shoes. Had you been with a badass feminist, you could have had the car all along.

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it’s revealing of your internal mental dialogue that
A) you love trying to break down bonds between fathers and sons

B) you’re obsessed with small penis. kinda confusing but whatever

C) you sound like bi or lesbian the way you talk about those cute little hippy girls. this would explain a lot.

D) What to me is a lucid story becomes to you “a fucked up situation”
Does that mean, in your brain, fucked-up situations are told as lucid narratives?
Again, this would explain so much

love the smarmy folky “just sayin'” and the drama-lesbian-esque “the plot thickens!!”

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A) I am trying to help him build bonds on a strong foundation and avoid setting his son up to be miserable and damage others.

B) Big dicks are way overrated. They hurt more than help.

C) Being able to recognize that another person would be attractive to others does not mean you are attracted to them. That said, I don’t really place gender limitations on sexual attraction. I don’t understand how to do it.

I love your bizarre free verse poetry and seemingly drunken abuse.

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the plot thickents – chiiiil continues to troll

a few try to put her in her place

most laugh and with a quick glance to the sky, thank the creator that they are not with a female like this

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Meh.

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You are making some very broad generalizations with your comments. To say that “this entire site and value system is about hating and being adversarial with women” is totally off base. You obviously are passionate about women being seen as individuals, hopefully you allow for men to viewed as individuals as well.
This site/forum appeals to many men who possess a broad range of views on the various issues that are discussed here. I certainly don’t “hate” women. What you need to understand is that the men here who support some/most/all of what is said here are not a “fringe” group. There are a large number of men who visit this site, and these men are successful and very productive members of their various communities.
By all means, please do not think that you speak for all or a majority of women when making your comments. For example, I know many women who cherish “old-timey gender roles” and would greatly take issue with your views on this subject.
My overall observation from reading your posts is that you do not seem to understand just how many men agree (at varying levels) with Roosh’s views. And frankly, your comments go a long way in validating many of the conclusions Roosh makes.

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“To say that “this entire site and value system is about hating and being adversarial with women” is totally off base.”

Why? Have you seen this shit?

If you think it’s ok to bully women into having sex because women who have sex are worthless, you kinda do hate women because almost all women have sex (except nuns and people who have huge problems relating to others).

I speak for myself. I understand that Serena Joys exist, and you should know that women with entitlement issues often internalize certain aspects of sexism to justify their entitlement issues, as in, “I can’t work or open doors! Buy me things, like a gentleman! I’m so pretty!”

I definitely understand that there is a sizable portion of men who think I’m only valuable as a series of holes, but I’m making a real effort here to not hate men generally. I know you lurk, and you’re probably my supervisor, the man who creeps up on me in public and asks if I “like monsters” to scare me, the guy at the grocery store buying kale (“No fat cunts!”), my fellow students, my family members, etc. Sometimes life is terrifying and depressing.

In what way do my comments validate Rooshbag’s conclusions?

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Referring to my comment that you alluded to, I take issue with the very broad generalization that you make. Roosh focuses on a multitude of varying topics, thus it really hurts your credibility when you state that his “entire” focus is on “hating and being adversarial with women”.
The fact of the matter is that various components of Roosh’s message resonate with a very diverse number of men. It would be very unwise to even remotely attempt to categorize or label those men who support/follow Roosh. Take me for example. I don’t use “game”. I don’t have one night stands. Heck, I don’t even go to bars. That said, I do believe in traditional gender roles. I do believe that men and women are different, and have unique God-given skills and attributes.
Honestly, I think it’s good that you post here and I disagree with those posters who tell you to leave. Furthermore, I believe that some posters have written some totally classless messages to you. I can see why you would use terms like “hate” and “adversarial”, and it could intuitively be easy for you to categorize all the men on this site to fit into a specific group. But again, doing so would be making a faulty conclusion.
The thought of “bullying” a woman into sex is totally foreign to me. I’ve been fortunate enough to have very positive relationships with women. All of the women who I have had relationships with have possessed views on gender roles that you would most likely identify as “traditional”. They also never had any “entitlement issues”.
Let me expand on why your behavior and comments here reinforces some of the views that Roosh has expressed here on this site. I only recently was exposed to Roosh and his websites/forum, and have only posted here a few times. I read through one of his articles, and then took a look at the comments. I saw a few of your comments, and they really jumped out to me. Why? Two reasons. First, I was struck by how you use your intelligence (obviously you are highly educated, as am I) to ridicule and tear down those who possess an intellect that is below yours. Obviously, it’s great to be smart but when it is apparent that you are debating someone who is not in your intellectually league, take the high road and call off the dogs. As an outside observer, it makes you look haughty, arrogant, and condescending. Great, you’re highly educated. However, many others are not as fortunate as you. Ironically (as you discuss men bullying women), you are the one who actually comes across as the bully.
Secondly, as one who is highly educated, you damage your credibility by using crude and classless terminology. It makes you look really unprofessional and undignified. I mean, look at your first message to me (an individual you obviously know nothing about) and the last one you wrote to “salsafreak”. If you want to earn someone’s respect, show at least some civility. No one I know would utilize verbage such as “No fat cunts!” or “dicks don’t really fit in faces without a lot of effort”. And, referring to Roosh as “Rooshbag”. I mean, are we in junior high here. Simply put, it just reinforces what Roosh says about the overall character of Western women.

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The central point of almost every article I have seen Roosh write has been misogyny in some way, except for articles that tell you to have basic hygiene under control, wear clothes that fit, and not be fat, which are few and far between. Seriously, this guy wrote this. Seriously, these are his beliefs, and he is willing to sacrifice quality of life in society for submissive women and easy sex.

“I do believe that men and women are different, and have unique God-given skills and attributes.”

And the roles that follow from that just “happen to” make women have less power and freedom, as well as ability to protect themselves from violence? Is that an “oopsie,” or what? Results matter when determining the validity and desirability of an ideology.

“Honestly, I think it’s good that you post here and I disagree with those posters who tell you to leave.”

I appreciate your comment and its tone as well, although I disagree with some things you say.

Yay that you’ve had positive relationships with women and are not a sexual predator!

“They also never had any “entitlement issues”.”

Never expected you to do things for them because of their gender that they could do themselves? This is interesting.

“First, I was struck by how you use your intelligence (obviously you are highly educated, as am I) to ridicule and tear down those who possess an intellect that is below yours.”

I may have done this. I’m not sure. My intent was to tear down their ideas, which frankly deserve it.

There is also a huge difference between being denied an education and willfully and gleefully wallowing in ignorance.

“when it is apparent that you are debating someone who is not in your intellectually league, take the high road and call off the dogs.”

If I thought someone was really at an intellectual disadvantage rather than simply enjoyed being anti-intellectual and offensive, I would have. I can’t think of a time when that happened on this thread, though. I’ll take this opportunity to renew motivation for checking for confirmation bias.

“As an outside observer, it makes you look haughty, arrogant, and condescending.”

Perhaps, but by comparison? If so, you’re judging women more harshly than men. Is that something you would want to do?

“crude and classless terminology.”

I’m not generally concerned with seeming refined or wealthy, especially not in this setting.

“It makes you look really unprofessional and undignified.”

To some, including you, maybe. I don’t think that’s widespread, and I’m not convinced that sacrificing authenticity in general is warranted. I have fun with life and use whimsical language in recreational settings. Some of it’s slang, and/or sexual. This is not a professional setting. I’m really not getting paid, though others have amusingly suggested I am.

“No one I know would utilize verbage”

(By the way, I was implying that the hypothetical man at the grocery store would say, “No fat cunts!” not that that probably matters to you.)

But anyway, you live in a very homogeneous social world, I guess?

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LOLLLLLL “pressuring” a 16 year old guy to have sex

you are a fucking retard

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Interesting again. Your original comment, which was emailed to me, said, “LOLLLLLL “pressuring” a 16 year old guy to have sex

you are a fucking retard”.

16-year-old boys are people too, and might not be ready or not want to have sex with absolutely everyone. Although reports of it are rare, the fact that they are expected to be completely sexually indiscriminate sets them up to be raped and not believed. That’s fucked up. His sexual consent should be his alone, and shouldn’t be being influenced by his father. Ew.

How were you “robbed off [your] young sexuality by feminism”? Feminism made it less dangerous for teenage girls and young women to have sex with you.

Wow, you’re abusive. Perhaps that’s the reason women avoid you?

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Salsafreak, I think you’re doing exactly the right thing for your son and he will thank you for it (and if he doesn’t, ONLY because he has no blessed idea how BAD it sucks to be a young man without those lessons)

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Any suggestions on how to convince my son that he should learn to dance ballroom too because I can teach him anytime/anyday and not just that hiphop/gymnastic dancing with his dance group.

A 16 y/0 salsafreak would be awesome, more ammo for seduction on ones arsenal.
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TO THE ENLIGHTENED GUYS HERE, ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO GET OVER THE INSECURITY OF HAVING A SMALL DICK, it seems to me this insecurity kicks in when im trying to notch a 9 or 10.Never bothered me when Im going for an 8 or lower.

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I guess tell him Ukrainian women like ballroom dancing? 0,o

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Wow you make fun of Ukrainian women. They are excellent latin and standard ballroom dancers, Ive dance partnered with one, too bad got to third base only, gave me blue balls. Could have done her standing. The dancing was awkward thought, 3 inches taller plus fckin heels.

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I bet they like dancing. I’ve just noticed a common cultural thread that they are raised to please and extract money from men as a means of survival. I live in a Ukrainian neighborhood, and young women walking by have made fun of me for reading outside.

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at least… that’s what you keep telling yourself they’re really making fun of you for!

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They said, “always reading” in English.

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busy little troll aren’t you

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We’re busy together! Kumbaya.

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no it’s not. idiot

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what’s funny chiiill is how you criticize everyone upstream in the comments for their honesty and analysis of why this is happening. you think salsa just needs to “see the light” and he’ll “go back” to “being better than this” and “not teaching this bullshit.”

but chiiill, you still can’t see that salsafreak is exactly what all of us are talking about.

chiiill, you think we are lost, and you will guide us,
but we are FOUND

we are FOUND, chiiill. this is the place where everything makes sense, that once I could only perceive as contradiction.

it’s too late. harsh and ugly truth can be slowed down by sophistry, but not concealed forever.

there are some things that can’t be unseen. western women are ruined, can’t think of a single childhood girl-friend that I’m interested in speaking to or hanging out with. they’re all such loose, washed up sluts with horrid stories and jaded memories.

They used to be so pretty and sweet. I used to work studiously and apply myself so that maybe I could settle down with one of them someday. But the times are a changing and the value of young american women’s company is plummeting in my book. I seriously don’t miss them at all.

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getting scared aren’t you chiiil

this shit is real and it is having an impact on the American female…you have been lied to and manipulated

wake the f*ck up

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Oh, I’ve been scared for a long time. Being a woman requires you to be somewhat scared all the time. Relish that, do you? Think about what kind of person that makes you.

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Being male is what’s scary nowadays cupcake. Mainly thanks to man-hating psychopaths like you.

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I applaud Roosh for standing up for the great lawyer and blogger Mike Cernovich when the pinko commie fag Zionist brainwashed SJWs attacked Mike for standing up for the right to free speech.

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Looks like someone has his head so far up his ass, he can’t think clearly.

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Did the JIDF pay you to write that bullshit?

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And yet, men are EVIL for not marrying these sluts when they’re past their prime. Why the hell would you wanna marry someone who gave it all to random dudes but then closes up like a clam to the dude she freaking marries. She gives more to random dudes but the husband is sexist for expecting it just once a week.

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who are you to judge if a woman has sex with many men. It’s her body, her choice

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Heh, and your past, our choice.

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Sweet. Stay away from the women.

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Don’t worry, we are.

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good god, do you have a life all i see is reply’s from you. Its made easier to recognize you because of your avatar.

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Exactly Amanda her body her choice, my body my choice

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What’s this shit about choice? Is it good? Does it make me rich? Choice doesn’t mean anything if it ends up being sucked up into the black hole of ego gratification. Choice isn’t a cock. Choice by itself is not good; a rapist chooses to rape. It is only good if it benefits others.

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What good are Roosh’s choices doing? Remember that for a while he thought he had HIV and was barebacking with multiple people. Bragged about it online. http://www.rooshv.com/i-took-an-hiv-test

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I would take the torture of suspecting I have aids rather than the ever present depressing nagging voice ( before I learned game and worship in the altar of roosh ) in my head telling me Im a looser because I got dump for a jerk who cant even keep a job.

Call it shallow but the sexual validation from hot women is a confidence booster. Sexual validation from multiple hot women has a snowball effect on ones swagger.

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Therapy more directly and reliably addresses depression. He’s taking advantage of people’s depression and anxiety … doesn’t that make you angry?

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Perhaps he is, what then do you offer to give the “broken” men here, other than shame and guilt. It is this which men are sick of, people like you who know nothing of a mans world yet can atest to how easy it is.
Keep running around and projecting your own problems on others, most men on this form are decent people. Some have problems you get this everywhere.

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Correct. Her body and her choice. As a man, it’s my choice to NOT settle down with her, but use her for her body as I please and pass on marriage.

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It’s really amazing to see how you all guys think that women give a flying fuck whether you settle down and have a family or not.

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They do, which is why they whine “where have all the good men gone”, I’ll let you into a secret, they’re avoiding those used up sluts.

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I’ll let you into another secret, the whining women are a tiny minority. The great majority of women live their life, fuck like weasels, or they don’t, settle down, have more or less happy families with reasonable men. Most of us don’t give a flying fuck what you tiny minority of “redpillers” do. You are utterly insignificant.

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“Most of us don’t give a flying fuck what you tiny minority of “redpillers” do. You are utterly insignificant.”

Yet, here you are….

dorabella
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Oh yeah. You guys are hilarious! Irrelevant, but hilarious!

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Just wait until you’re 45, well past your prime, single and no longer able to have children. Looking back on a life wasted, having offered your body to anyone at anytime, leaving you with an empitness that can never be filled. BTW… Botox, Liposuction, Tat removal and finding a younger guy to sleep with you are all signs the empitness will not go away.

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I am already WAY over 45, you dumbass!! you guys are truly funny smile The only empty thing here is your skull hahahaha

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Are you my biological grandmother ?

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Come on. Look at the terminology used in the various comments made by this poster. Women “WAY over 45” don’t talk or write like this. Obviously, you have the right to come here and state your views, but to lie and invent a phony persona is rather disingenuous.

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You are so full of it. How many women in their 50s do you have conversations with? Except yo’ mama, I mean.

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and having said all that, this is the best use of your time you can currently think of? LOL

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trolling trolling trolling

look at dorabella trolling

if anything, it just helps reinforce the point

chiiill
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Providing a voice of sanity. The innocent awkward fellas this website is trying to warp deserve a fighting chance.

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If we take a poll of the nice guys who got their self respect/esteem back following the gospel of Roosh, im sure it would be staggering, the awkward innocent ones like me are thankful for guys who think like roosh.

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What Roosh provides is bullshit self-esteem that falls like a house of cards at the slightest provocation. It’s based on bullying and tricking people into joyless sexual encounters. That’s why there’s the cray cray rage against women who don’t want to have sex with you – the instant degradation and the unintentionally ironic declarations of their sluthood are necessary narcissistic protection of the gaping wound where your self-esteems should be.

Saying Roosh gave you your self-esteem back is like saying a heroin dealer taught you how to love again.

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If the swagger I got now is heroin, Id rather be a junkie.

When I was an innocent (womans doormat) ballroom dance teacher. I had almost 6 hours of cardio by default, 1.5 hours of weights, I was ripped as a calvin klein model. Yet hardly merit any look from most women. I EVEN WEAR ELEVATOR SHOES TO LOOK TALLER THAN 5’7″.

At 42 y/o, a jerk wearing flipflops and, 25 lbs heavier I got more looks. What gives??

The swagger came from this paradigm shift in my mind which came rather late

Sex with hot women-increase in pheromones-increase pheromones increases sexual attraction-more sex with hot women ( and the cycle goes on)

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Sounds like that guy had an actual self-esteem, an identity beyond shallow stats, and was less judgmental-seeming than you. My point stands. The cycle continues, indeed.

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Joyless sexual encounters, you do not understand men. Men in their prime love to fuck without strings attached you know this. Yet you deny it. top KEK

GreatCrooksOfMen (GCOM)
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yup

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hoping the betas will be there when you’re ready for them

this site is like the karmic counter-intelligence for young men making sure in 10 years there’s gonna be a lot of sad hoes

chiiill
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I’ve been in a happy relationship for two years. How’s your love life?

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chiiiil and dorabella are likely the same feminsta operating under multiple handles

chiiill
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Honestly not. Is our writing style the same?

snowden_farted
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ding ding ding…..well said INTP

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“the whining women are a tiny minority” http://giphy.com/gifs/loop-total-recall-u4a1QwzjijgEE

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minority of workers, tax payers, productive members of society is what she is referring to.

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Hmmm…

dorabella
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aaaah “yo mama!” We have a 3rd grader here! Isn’t it past your bedtime?

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We’re so insignificant no one knows we exist.

We’re actually better than the illuminati in keeping things a secret.

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THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE

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I’ll let you into another secret

You are describing the Baby Boomer generation

Those days are gone

….I already told you once slag, check out the Google Trends for MGTOW and Red Pill and see the truth for yourself.

FYI – I’m an alpha and have enjoyed the American sluts and have enjoyed way more than my fair share.

Now that I am in my 30’s, it is time to settle down a bit and look into starting a family…..no no no to American girls for this important task.

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Meow. Meow.

chiiill
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It’s actually a good thing when people who hate you and consider you to be subhuman avoid you out of their bigotry. Thanks, guys! grin

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yeah maybe you should write another 30 posts about how you’re avoiding our type of men

chiiill
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You know, I just might. grin

GreatCrooksOfMen (GCOM)
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A.M.E.N.

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You obviously do, otherwise you wouldn’t be here.

You wouldn’t be hate-reading this oh-so-misognyst-and-sexist website unless you cared what we think about the opposite sex(not gender, SEX).

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We know you don’t care because you have the state and manginas to take care of you. Eventually both wells will dry up. Look up MGTOW or Grass eaters. Tell me then who will provide for you.

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Who are you to judge if a man has no job, owes $10K debt, lives in his mom’s basement, and is in trouble with the law? It’s his life, his choice.

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Really couldn’t have stated it any better than these guys.

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I took a different route. I up voted her comment so she would bang me.

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Hah!

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made my day!

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10/10 will screencap that comment and read it to my grandkids.

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the women that claim not to judge are the ones that judge the most.
May be your body but we are free to silently judge away and pretend to agree.

example, clothes say a lot about a person hence why women are obsessed about clothes. Theyll judge women on their style and how she is,same with men. I wear something flashy and lugz, youll say im a thug of some sort. I wear a suit, Im treated much better. YOu can say the same thing about subcultures like the reggae stoner kid is gonna be laid back the gothic kid is gonna be a downer, nerd social awkward etc.

But women lose their shit when suddenly they are to be judged. Like skimpy clothes, totally say you are slutty(unless its cultural like showing leg in asia). Few clothes bascially say you are comforable being naked with other people easy and party drink smoke etc,, while the conservative dont.

What we wear is how one sees and feels about himself. Like poorly groomed he doesnt feel confident, bright clothes he feels outgoing. Overtly styled he must be vain. If women can sterotype us and other women, we most certainly will do the same.
But problem is, women are so insecure about that theyll lie about their past to get into a relationship, and that makes her even worse and untrustworthy in our eyes.
If you are gonna be a hoe, own it. DOnt lie. If he doesnt like it fine, next and vice versa.

WOmen now adays just want the answers they want to hear, not what they need to hear.

this judging thing can also go beyond clothes and sex, but can go to past behaoiur,employment, where ones from,etc.
To best predict future outcomes, basically its like looking over aresume on whos the best candidate

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Re; how you dress. Being definable to women gets you laid. They wantt be able to say:”Ok that’s the rough biker dude, that’s the ex-marine, that’s the hipster, that’s the jock, that’s the metro fag, etc etc.”

Subsequently, those are also some of the lamest cats, the ones so easily definable. Women are too stupid to understand that, but being definable, categorizable, is part of their social language. So they do a diservice to themselves and to normal guys who aren’t ever going to bother fitting a mold. The non-conformists, who aren’t getting tatts to be different or unique types.

I think Roosh is spot on re. the West, what has really shocked me is if you’ve followed his articles, just a year ago he was predicting it was on its way.. maybe years in development to get to where we are now. JUST A YEAR LATER. Cancer spreads fast with technology in society.

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This is such a good post.

What I find interesting about this is that these “male archetypes” or “personas” that girls go for change all the time and just depend on the social environment (read: what they see on TV, what other people think).

I have an old friend who worked his ass off to be a doctor and get in great physical shape. He is so frustrated right now because he just can’t find a girl that wants to fuck him. Where I live being a shitty DJ with a bunch of slacker friends is simply more valuable to women than being a Doctor that can save lives and save money. He has no choice but to learn game.

In another environment though he would be batting vagina off of him like mosquitos.

chiiill
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Um, is your friend an asshole?

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no matter how much it’s in front of this hoe’s face
she’s never gonna realize she’s wrong, just wrong wrong wrong

so wrong, so deeply incorrect and wrong the light gets farther from her with every “*quick breath* but THIS” she offers like an oppositionally-defiant 16 year old

have not seen a single sign of comprehension ability. Just another moron who decided what they believed long before the facts came in

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You sound really drunk in most of your comments, especially this one. Not that there’s anything wrong with getting drunk in and of itself, but were you drinking alone and abusively ranting online on Christmas? Uff da.

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Once you realize everything they say negative about men is simply projection, the smirk gets bigger on your face.

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its gotten out of hand. fat women can’t even be judged as fat anymore.. they are beautiful or body positive or naturally curvaceous or some shit. no. your FAT. and you should lose weight for your health and self respect.

in asia people are called fat to their face and nobody cries about it.. they have no need to be in denial about it and so theres nothing to be upset about and hey…much less fat people in asia.

chiiill
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Really burns you that you don’t get to define the cultural narrative, eh? WAHHHH!

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Why would it? Im living better than i would of in the west. It bums me out that my fellow man is getting screwed over but at the end of the day its no longer my problem

chiiill
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Where you at?

don mario
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Not the western world

chiiill
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Not an answer.

don mario
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And why should you need to know?

chiiill
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Curious about what you’re defining as “non-Western.” Is it just Asia, or do places like South America and Eastern Europe count as well? Africa?

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basically whatever sorry hole you crawled out of.. i wont be living in.

chiiill
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Ooh.

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so you admit, it’s about defining the cultural narrative

it’s just a power struggle

stop acting like we’re dicks for fighting to keep our place at the table (a table 90% designed and built by white men), you hypocrite

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Defining the cultural narrative through brute force and suppression of dissenting voices is what men have done for most of history in most places. That’s not really available anymore. Defining the cultural narrative by being right is what’s in style now, and you can’t do it because you’re just wrong. Sorry.

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Don’t bank on it lasting, cupcake.

GreatCrooksOfMen (GCOM)
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nah, fat women are ugly as fuck
avoid

chiiill
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The difference is that when you stereotype a reggae or goth person, you’re not expecting them to live their entire lives in order to please you. The stereotypes you mentioned aren’t even bad – laid back and sensitive are kind of cool.

The attitudes on this site and sites like these are the ultimate narcissism. Women are supposed to limit their lives, especially when they’re young and free, just to “be good enough” for hypocritical narcissists who hate them? Fuck that.

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laid back and sensitive are gay and worthless
would die in the wild
GOOD

chiiill
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Good thing we can adapt to our environments, and very few of us are in “the wild.”

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And, who are you, Amanda, to judge a man for his natural inclination to reject a female who is not worthy of his high standards?

I know in your world men are slaves of women’s psychotic ideals. However, real men know their worth and reject you and your minions soundly. We exercise our freedom of choice as do you, choosing not to hitch our wagons to old used up hags when we have better prospects available to us.

Yes, 50 years of feminist brainwashing and guilt have emasculated many men by deceiving them and robbing them of the power of truth. But, we are waking up to women’s schemes and rejecting sluts, whores and goldiggers because we demand more in a woman who we are going to bestow the regal title of WIFE.

WE ARE THE JUDGES. WE ARE KINGS! Accept it, or suck it. It matters not to us any longer.

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You are the judges, and still, all the media is in SJW’s hands. You are the kings, and still, feminists rule the world. Hmmmm I think you need to take some classes in leadership. Maybe from a feminist, who knows how to rule the world (according to you).

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“all the media is in SJW’s hands”
” feminists rule the world”
In which world are you living you delusional fuck ?
Certainly an illusionary world where obesity rhymes with beauty…

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You didn’t get it Romeo. The MRA’s are the people who think that the SJW’s run the media and feminists rule the world. You are the babies always whining that the world has been “pussified” and feminists have taken over.
You redpillers think that men are being oppressed (by feminists). Not me. You.
You redpillers are whining that all media and all politics bow to feminism. YOU are the delusional fuck.

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lol… I’m getting so much insight into your degenerate mind

you think the loudest voice is the rightest
you think talk = power
you think media = truth
you think consensus = judgement

at least I know you’re not lying about being female

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TRUFE.

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What does it say about you that you want much younger, submissive women? How can you have a real relationship with someone like that? You can say all you want that women who are or have enjoyed their freedom are “empty,” but remember that it is you who wants to settle down with someone who is less than you.

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you’re right, younger women should be aware that they are lesser and not fully human

which does make me wonder, what age is someone no longer in the “lesser human being” category?

I suspect, chiill, that for you that age keeps moving up with each of your successive and lonely birthdays

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I never said younger women were not fully human or were really “lesser;” just that compared to someone significantly older, they will have less life experience and power in the relationship, and will therefore almost always end up being subordinate, and will also probably have accomplished less by the time the relationship begins and have fewer options if they leave/ways to escape abuse. It’s insecure, unhealthy, and pathetic to want that, as the older person.

I don’t think people’s humanity diminishes with age. That’s your territory.

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You don’t get it, you stupid c unt. You are projecting your own views as a female and how you would feel about a younger man on men.. who do not feel the same way about a younger woman. Get that through your thick, cunty head. Men are not women. We don’t think like women. We don’t have the same sexual preferences as women. We value different things than women do in partner. We don’t value “sexual experience” in the woman we want to commit to.. we don’t give a fuck about her career or how “strong” and “independent” she is. Those are all things you value you in a man and look for .. But those are all detriments in our eyes and not what we value or look for. We prefer younger, submissive, sweet women who will make good wives and mothers. Who the fuck are you to decide or claim we cannot have a “real relationship” with someone like that? In most of human history, that model of a submissive younger woman and an older man and traditional gender roles have precisely been the standard model of male female relationships.. and have worked more often than not. Given the current landscape and state of male-female relationships, and how feminism has proven to be a demographic dead-end, and a great demotivator to men to pursue marriage (most men have no desire whatsover to wife up an career minded, ex-slut like you – they make awful long-term partners and cause friction and problems in a relationship) I would argue the onus is on YOU to demonstrate your ideal of a relationship is the “correct” one or the one that works in the long-term. I see no evidence for it.

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Bingo! Notice the lack of response. What Women Want = Right. What Men Want = Wrong/Pervy/WhoCares.

Well, MEN care. And we’re sick of this one-sided shit.

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Yes, your body, until someone moves in.

chiiill
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…Like a parasite?

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Promiscuous women make awful wives and terrible mothers. They’re also more likely to be mentally ill, something no reasonable man wants in a partner for life.

Actions have consequences in life, if you’re going to meet a man you want to marry and he doesn’t approve of your previous whore life, then that’s on you. A man is still allowed to have his choice not to deal with those kind of women being forced on him. A good man wants a woman to be his, not everyone’s plus the neighbours she’s fucking.

chiiill
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Yes, it’s totally normal to want to own another human being. #GoodMen

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Women are not equal to men, science wise or biology wise. They’re also a gender of underachievers who spent most of their time lazing away.

chiiill
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Derp. Merry Christmas.

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Nah, if you want to be a slave for women, go ahead. But watch as your world burns, it’s gonna be women’s fault.

Don’t enable them into destroying the natural order of things.

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sophistry and words ain’t gonna change reality and biology
but shame DID work on us for about 30 years 1980-2010, so I understand why you’re gonna keep hammering at it with all you’ve got even after it’s stopped having the desired effect. like an addict.

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Interesting. Some editing is fine, but your original comment, which was emailed to me, said, “sophistry and words ain’t gonna change reality and biologymen don’t care what you think of our preferences
she’s better in bed than you anyway. we don’t pine for you”
.

I’m not necessarily trying to change you. Yes, the internet, particularly comment boards, is addictive for us, isn’t it?

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“her body, her choice”

“his wallet, his choice”

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Because GOD himself judges you a whore. And in the end his judgement trumps yours you pathetic little beast because he made you and set the rules. You will find this out one way or the other – it is only a matter of time.

chiiill
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Aw… god probably doesn’t exist.

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You can explain that to him in person in time.

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If that happened, I would like to ask him why he created people with brains and then demanded they not use them on pain of extreme, over-the-top punishment. Is he a sadist, or what? How are we supposed to be on his team when he behaves like an unreasonable, violent child?

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I’m not your personal theologian and if I tried to explain it you would simply dismiss/deny it immediately anyway and both of us know this. Suffice to say from my perspective I’m speaking to a blind man trying to explain the beauty of a sunrise while he is loudly proclaiming in his ignorance that such doesn’t exist. No amount of argument or eloquence is going to change his mind.

As for your points your initial presumption is incorrect (people not using their brains) so whatever logical trail that leads from it is also going to be incorrect. The punishment you speak of is a choice made by you to not go to his heaven, and part of the burden of having a brain is being responsible for your own actions. If your initial point were correct this would create a contradiction but it isn’t so its not.

You’ll going to be on one of two teams and its your choice which. The other team chose to remove itself from GOD’s presence and suffers from a self selected eternity removed from the source of love. I can’t make you understand that and I would prefer you’d choose otherwise – but Its up to you in the end. Heaven is a perfect place made for perfect people. Any sin that got in there would corrupt perfection so it isn’t allowed in anymore than an ebola patient who refused a cure should be allowed to roam about a daycare center. Since I’ve sinned *a lot* I’ve got a problem and I chose the way GOD has given to fix it. I can’t perfect myself and this world truly sucks because of sins committed by people just like me. How awful it would be if this was all there is. I don’t think I could stand to live in such a terribly evil world knowing that only death awaited.

I’ve made my choice and you make yours but the rules won’t change because you don’t like them and if you think otherwise it’s on you.

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Religion makes people live longer, feel more satisfaction with their lives, and seem more trustworthy to others. Who wouldn’t want that?

I have tried to believe in god, but that is like asking me to force myself to perceive the sky as green. It’s a lot like the sailboat scene in Mall Rats, with me as Willem, the Magic Eye picture as the world, and god as the sailboat. I suppose I could just lie to people, and I used to, but I would always know it was a lie, and doing that was actually really, really wrong. I can tell that because I have a natural internal sense of ethics and compassion, and do not need arbitrary external rules to follow.

The fact of the matter is that if your god exists, he made people like me with brains like mine that see blue skies and no sailboats, and not for lack of trying to see. Why? Just to torture us? That seems like something a good deity would do… ?

Heaven is for perfect people? I thought those didn’t exist (original sin, etc.). So then heaven is just another torture device as well?

Your original comment gives me pause as well. “Because GOD himself judges you a whore. And in the end his judgement trumps yours you pathetic little beast because he made you and set the rules. You will find this out one way or the other – it is only a matter of time.”

That is not a statement made by a generally compassionate, benevolent person. It has an inherent hatred of and pushing down of women. I used to feel bad I couldn’t make myself believe in god, but every time I see something like this, another remaining piece of that feeling chips away. Hopefully one day, it will be completely gone, so please keep saying stuff that makes religious people sound like serial killers! Thank you for the work you have done for me already.

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The fact of the matter is that if your god exists, he made people
like me with brains like mine that see blue skies and no sailboats, and
not for lack of trying to see. Why? Just to torture us? That seems like
something a good deity would do… ?

What is good? And how are you judging good vs. evil and based on what moral standard – your personal one? I came to believe because I very much do believe that evil does exist and if it does this implies its opposite. That lead me to begin searching. As to why if you have searched you haven’t found what you are looking for I can’t answer that. I don’t know you and have no clue about the state of your soul beyond what you are telling me are your experiences. For myself when I sought out GOD I didn’t have trouble believing but that is my experience and I don’t expect anyone but me to believe it..

Heaven is for perfect people?

Yes. Sin makes the world imperfect. Heaven is perfect. If there was sin in it the place would become hell – living forever with sin.

I thought those didn’t exist (original sin, etc.). So then heaven is just another torture device as well?

Perfect people don’t exist, they are forgiven through the blood sacrifice of the sinless son of GOD. I don’t pretend to understand the cosmic mechanics of this but I don’t need to understand the workings of turbine jet propulsion to buy and utilize a plane ticket and trust that I will get where I want to go.

Your original comment gives
me pause as well. “Because GOD himself judges you a whore. And in the
end his judgement trumps yours you pathetic little beast because he made
you and set the rules. You will find this out one way or the other – it
is only a matter of time.”

That is not a statement made by a
generally compassionate, benevolent person.

I never claimed to be compassionate, benevolent, or anything good according to your way of judgement. I was bitter, cruel, nasty, and shined the light on something you are doing wrong and your defense of it. You advocate evil which I deem a bad thing especially if others take your advice. Not only is this the key to unhappiness in this world but it spits in the face of the creator as well.

It has an inherent hatred of
and pushing down of women.

No – it is protecting their long term interests. It is no more evil then denying a child ice cream for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The fact that you want to do something does not mean it is harmless or that it is a good thing.

I used to feel bad I couldn’t make myself
believe in god, but every time I see something like this, another
remaining piece of that feeling chips away.

If your faith or lack thereof is based on being happy or disappointed in other human beings then you are definitely barking up the wrong tree. There is not a person on this Earth who won’t disappoint you eventually. The perfect savior lived a long time ago and I am not him. I’m sure what I said wasn’t 100% Christian and if you let me speak in total for GOD (which I never claimed or wanted to do) then that is foolish. While what I said is true the way I said it probably hurt your feelings – oh well – I’m brash – that doesn’t mean it isn’t true but that is up to you to accept or not.

Hopefully one day, it will
be completely gone, so please keep saying stuff that makes religious
people sound like serial killers!

So we’ve gone from my condemnation of fornication to becoming a serial killer? Interesting… I fail to see the logical connection there but as I see it makes you feel better about yourself have at.

Thank you for the work you have done
for me already.

No problem. Leave a tip in the jar please.

Also wondering: how do you hate the world so much
and still see god in it? I don’t even hate the world that much, but my
search has always come up with diddly.

Of course you don’t hate the world if you are in sin – the devil doesn’t think hell is bad place after all I am sure. If you like the world as is you can have it but personally GOD has a better place staked out and if you don’t like that its on you.

Cheers

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“What is good? And how are you judging good vs. evil and based on what moral standard – your personal one?”

Good is that which causes the least overall suffering. Yes, I’m judging good and evil based on my personal ethical standard, which is based upon minimizing harm and promoting compassion (rather than condoning slavery, genocide, rape, and arbitrary rules to sometimes ignore just ’cause we want to, as the Xtian Bible does).

“I came to believe because I very much do believe that evil does exist and if it does this implies its opposite.”

How does evil’s existence imply the existence of a deity? I’ve been looking for evidence of a good god … perhaps I should be looking for evidence of an evil one?

“As to why if you have searched you haven’t found what you are looking for I can’t answer that. I don’t know you and have no clue about the state of your soul beyond what you are telling me are your experiences. For myself when I sought out GOD I didn’t have trouble believing but that is my experience and I don’t expect anyone but me to believe it..”

Neither of us has very much reason to lie about this. I believe you about your spiritual experience and am not lying about mine, but the fact remains that I exist, and you believe god created me. What’s up with that? Why would god promise to do sick, twisted shit to people he created to be unable to honestly believe he exists?

“Perfect people don’t exist, they are forgiven through the blood sacrifice of the sinless son of GOD.”

So if everyone able to do mental gymnastics or effectively lie to themselves just gets to do this, what does that say about your “perfect people”?

“I never claimed to be compassionate, benevolent, or anything good according to your way of judgement. I was bitter, cruel, nasty”

So you’re openly admitting to acting like a shitty person, and advocating others be the same way? Because it’s somehow good? No wonder you think this world is not enough; you’ve poisoned your experience of it with your hate.

“something you are doing wrong and your defense of it. You advocate evil”

Let’s review what “evil” I am advocating, shall we? Last time I checked, I was here to advocate treating women and girls like actual people (gasp!).

“Not only is this the key to unhappiness in this world but it spits in the face of the creator as well.”

I suppose you know a great deal about self-imposed unhappiness…

“No – it is protecting their long term interests. It is no more evil then denying a child ice cream for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.”

In what ways are women like children? After you answer this question, I am interested in knowing what, then, makes it ok for you to have sex with them, if they are essentially children?

“If your faith or lack thereof is based on being happy or disappointed in other human beings then you are definitely barking up the wrong tree.”

It’s based on not being able to see evidence that is even suggestive that a benevolent deity exists, beyond a bunch of power-hungry people saying one does and using this baseless assertion to try to control others. I think I have a much better opinion of people than you do. People can be disappointing, and they can also be inspiring. Every person has these elements. Thinking in an infantile, black-and-white style about people in general sounds like a recipe for this bitterness you keep talking about.

“I’m sure what I said wasn’t 100% Christian and if you let me speak in total for GOD (which I never claimed or wanted to do) then that is foolish.”

If you’re claiming to be such a believer you are able to condemn others for (gasp!) having sex and not living with the express purpose, all the time, of pleasing you, then you are claiming to speak for god. Judge not, lest ye be judged, dude.

“the way I said it probably hurt your feelings”

Not exactly; it disgusted me and made me want to counteract the poisonous influence of those ideas.

“So we’ve gone from my condemnation of fornication to becoming a serial killer?”

I said you sounded like a serial killer – specifically, the one from the SVU episode called “Savior.” If you have Hulu Plus, you can watch it here: http://www.hulu.com/watch/222984#i0,p235,d0

You called women who lead normal lives “whore[s]” and “pathetic little beast[s].” It’s a hop, skip, and a jump from that kind of vitriolic hatred to actually getting violent, especially because the people you hate aren’t particularly powerful or well-protected.

“If you like the world as is you can have it but personally GOD has a better place staked out and if you don’t like that its on you.”

I don’t generally like or dislike the world as it is; it’s a mixed bag. It does seem to be getting worse because we’re letting it (increasing economic inequality and concentration of power in the hands of psychopaths, a higher percentage of slaves than any other time in human history, resource wars, etc..), but there’s also awesome things. Ever seen a TED talk? Heard of Doctors without Borders? Etc. I haven’t given up on the world.

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“Good is that which causes the least overall suffering.”

To who? You? Your neighbor? Only those you like? What if suffering now is required to abate suffering later on but you don’t know this? Is that wrong simply because you don’t like it now and can’t understand it? And furthermore why is suffering bad? If you are simply a collection of molecules that came together at random and happen to take on a particular series of shapes and forms now then myself or anyone else rearranging those molecules anyway we see fit isn’t evil – you need an objective standard for that and you dismiss the being capable of providing this. As it stands your definition is no better than anyone else’s and after a vote maybe we’ll agree that suffering is just dandy. In order to give any tangible meaning to your way of deciding what is good or evil you need a standard that is above you or else anyone can trump what you say is good/bad. 1000 Mayans agreed that cutting the hearts out of people and eating them was “good” because it eliminated suffering. At least they had the strength of claiming this standard came from above while your standard is only based on luke warm Christian ethics passed down to a civilization that hasn’t quite thrown them off yet.

“How does evil’s existence imply the existence of a deity? ”

Because in order for there to be something called “GOOD” or “EVIL” you must have something outside of man making the definitions. If the definitions are by men then they change, they aren’t eternal, and what’s good today is evil tomorrow. For all of history though evil has taken on certain characteristics that transcend humanity. Societies tend to fall in very specific ways repeating the same mistakes and reaping the same consequences. This implies a destabilizing force which we can label evil and such a force is above and beyond us, intelligent, and malevolent. In order for there to be chaos there must first be order.

“Let’s review what “evil” I am advocating, shall we? Last time I checked,
I was here to advocate treating women and girls like actual people
(gasp!).”

No, not in the slightest and I won’t give you any wiggle room on this. You are advocating women run around and whore it up with men before they are married (and likely during and afterwards lets be honest here) This is what you are advancing. If that is what you think being actual people means then no wonder you’re lost as you won’t find happiness pursuing this lifestyle.

“In what ways are women like children?”

Absolute hatred of responsibility, lead primarily by emotions, low impulse control, shall we continue? Look at the video that Roosh posted and tell me how independent and mature that thing in it is.

“If you’re claiming to be such a believer you are able to condemn others for (gasp!) having sex”

I don’t make the rules GOD does. It was a warning. My condemnation or lack thereof carries no weight. If I don’t condemn or I do makes absolutely no difference to the universe anymore than us arguing back and forth means GOD exists or does not. No matter what you think there is an objective standard out there that you can’t argue with – even if you walk away from this debate thinking YEAH I WON!!! It won’t change reality. Get that through your head please.

“I said you sounded like a serial killer – specifically, the one from the SVU episode called “Savior.””

And you sound like one of the girls from Sex and the City so I guess that makes you one of them. Great! What a time saver! Now I can make all sorts of cockamamie statements about your personal life and behavior based on a sitcom. What wonder will Hollywood produce tomorrow that fully allows you to catalog other human beings based solely on internet posts? The mind boggles….

“You called women who lead normal lives “whore[s]”

And I call Mayan priests who butchered people by cutting their hearts out murderers which was normal for that time and place. Do you want 10,000 other examples of what was “normal” in history that we now consider thoroughly evil? Normal does not equal good.

and “pathetic little
beast[s].”

Yes. Delighting in serial sex makes an animal of oneself. And even our host is finding no happiness in banging tons of women. Dare I say if I could conjure a virginal, sweet, pretty, kind girl out of thin air Roosh would likely stay loyal to her for the rest of his life. That’s what men want – too bad none exist now because you know – normal now means whore, chip on shoulder, castrating harpy. Man up and marry those guys! It’s normal!

“It’s a hop, skip, and a jump from that kind of vitriolic
hatred to actually getting violent,”

Horseshit. Prove that. Trolls dump vitriol all the time and don’t get violent and this has nothing to do with violence. You aren’t on some crusade to save women from any real threat – you want to convince them to sleep around (likely because you’ve done so a lot) which *is* a real threat to their mental health and future.

“especially because the people you
hate aren’t particularly powerful or well-protected.”

Women put themselves into extremely dangerous situations then demand the world bend over backwards to pay the price for them. You are encouraging this. If you cared about them (you don’t) you would not be promoting what you are promoting. Your concern is for yourself not them and I can see that 1000 miles away.

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“To who?”

All sentient beings.

“What if suffering now
is required to abate suffering later on but you don’t know this?”

Do the best you can. An actual good faith effort. wink

Seriously, you can’t know the future, but you can do your best to predict it. That’s what science is for. Perhaps we didn’t know about climate change in 1890, but we know a great deal now, so now we are responsible for acting on it.

“And furthermore why
is suffering bad?”

Suffering is one of those rare words, much like “bad” itself, that is tautologically defined. You might as well ask, “Why is bad bad?” Suffering is bad because it causes pain. That is its freakin’ definition.

“If you are simply a
collection of molecules that came together at random and happen to take on a
particular series of shapes and forms now then myself or anyone else
rearranging those molecules anyway we see fit isn’t evil”

That is a strawman. Nowhere did I say that consciousness or life is meaningless.

“you need an objective
standard for that and you dismiss the being capable of providing this.”

Nope. More in a sec.

“As it stands your
definition is no better than anyone else’s and after a vote maybe we’ll agree
that suffering is just dandy.”

Trusting consensual reality is nuanced, bec