The Male Thirst Epidemic Is Primarily Caused By Porn

It’s hard to deny that male thirst is at the highest level ever seen. Men are becoming so desperate for sex that they are begging for scraps from the most inferior and unattractive girls in the land. This isn’t only happening in the West but in foreign countries as well, where it’s now a trend to see attractive men paired up with ugly women. In an age where online pornography is freely accessible, how can thirst be at the highest it has been when there is a safe and reliable virtual method to sate sexual urges? The reason should be clear: porn is creating the thirst.

Video has the power to program the minds of people more than sound, words, or static images. It is the preferred propaganda vehicle of choice because of its ability to etch desired behaviors into human minds without them having to consciously think of what they’re seeing, especially since people watch video with a low mental defense, thinking it’s an accurate mirror of reality. The average person does not understand how easy it is to manipulate video to reflect a story or idea that is incorrect or harmful.

When you watch pornography, you are being programmed to strongly desire sex with promiscuous women (i.e. sluts). The hundreds of hours of video porn you have watched in your life has molded your mind to expect fast and easy sex from women who serve no real purpose outside of sex, and has actually primed you to look down on virginal women since they can’t provide you with immediate sexual excitement. This has happened to you without any conscious thought. The repetition of so many hours of watching sluts get fucked in all manner of possibilities has created expectations and beliefs about how sex should be. The fact that you’ve certainly tried a sex move you’ve seen in porn shows that you are learning certain behaviors and beliefs without deliberately using porn as a learning guide.

The more you watch porn, the more it creates the artificial desire to sleep with a trashy and low quality woman, the same type of woman you see in porn. The hundreds of hours of porn you’ve now seen with such women are so deep in your brain that it becomes quite logical for you to do everything in your power to re-live those videos with a real female body. In the tough dating market we have today, where a man must embark on a long journey of game to sleep with attractive women, the result is that he will lower his standards to a humiliating level just to match the porn programming he has subjected himself to.

Just like the expression “You are what you eat,” we can also conclude that your sex life will mirror your porn habits. If you regularly beat off to girls undergoing unhygienic acts such as ass to mouth, gangbangs, and double anal, you will unconsciously seek out a girl who matches the type of girls you watch, and in this modern society, it’s only the girls who don’t possess classic feminine beauty that can live up to that porn standard. So not only does porn increase your desire to have sex with women, it greatly lowers the standard of woman you want to do it with. This is why male thirst is getting worse every year, and the arrival of virtual porn or sex bots will not at all reduce the thirst problem like many believe, but actually increase it.

The male sex drive is already potent enough, and doesn’t need porn to exert itself, but the introduction and proliferation of high definition video porn in the past ten years has actually amplified a man’s need to have sex with a real woman, because he now has a front row seat that simulates the sex act on a screen, making him want it more than ever. We would predict that young men who have been raised on internet porn would therefore have significantly lower standards than men who have not, and this is what we actually see in America where young millennial “men” are reducing themselves to chasing all manner of blue-haired feminist freaks for a shot of sex.

Masculine men today must guard their eyes and ears from toxic entertainment that porn is a part of just like how they guard their mouths from bad food, because both can negatively affect their bodies over the long term. I like using porn as a easy masturbatory aid, but I fear it has perverted my male desire for women and made me seek out promiscuous girls of questionable value for so many years instead of girls who can serve me in additional ways beyond sex. I think it’s time for me to accept that I don’t need this type of sex programming in my life, and to start living without it.

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Yes but in today’s dating market, without porn I think rape rates and sex crimes would be through the roof. And I don’t mean drunken sex without “consent.”

Also if you are in the beginner grind phase of learning game where sex is few and far between, many men need something to calm themselves down.

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Men were able to masturbate before video and print porn existed.

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I don’t think masturbating to porn is just about the release. It also tricks your brain in a sense that it makes you think you had a genuine sexual encounter.

I can’t prove the above but that’s my personal feeling about the effects of porn on the brain

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Men were also able to get over their nervousness with women without the need for porn for centuries. There is no necessity to it. The world would not be lesser for it if all the porn suddenly disappeared.

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^ Further explanation of why the Gammas think they’re Alphas.

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Exactly. And that’s the problem with it.

In the past, you were taught that, in order to experience sexual satisfaction, you had to make something of yourself: you had to earn money, you have to be well regarded in the community, you had to have a good character – in order to earn a wife.

This was a strong motivation.

Now, just fire up the web browser and click your mouse a couple times.

The effort:reward ratio has been transformed by a factor of a billion to one, and the net result is to demotivate men in life goals in general.

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“…in order to earn a wife. This was a strong motivation.”

Or… perhaps, the blinders are off now? Maybe porn is a clearer window into women’s sexuality than we think.

When your average co-ed gleefully does ATM and other depraved acts for Chad Thundercock, QB, then dries up to the point where desultory bi-monthly sex with Harry Betaprovider, blueballed chump husband, esq., is painful… perhaps she doesn’t really want to be a wife?

“Earning” a “wife” like this is like earning a pile of shit. Time to re-think one’s motivations.

As for porn, I think Roosh has the the sequence of causation wrong.

Ultra-uxorious society undergoes Cultural Collapse; all constraints on female vice go out the window. The subsequent increase in bastardy and broken homes, absent any cultural moral backstop, produces a garbage generation of fat, shrewish un-marriageable young women: the Tinder Generation. Directionless, fucked up young men respond by… giving the girls exactly what they want. The more attractive and social 10% become prolific cads, the now desperate, cunt starved remainder founder on pornography or get mired and provider-yoked in the Land of the Serial-Monogamists.

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spot on.

uxorious…learned a new word.

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It’s not about sex. Sex is overrated. It’s amazing, it’s enjoyable, sure, but it’s just a fleeting pleasure. Not unlike drugs.

The real point is having kids who you love and who love you, and are sane and healthy because they have two sane and healthy parents. The real point is to keep your genes from dying out, which requires protecting your kids from the cultural rot in whatever way you must. The real point is to attract one of those women who hasn’t been around the cock-a-coaster. They’re out there, but they often don’t look like the makeup caked image of beauty we are programmed to be attracted to, so we forget they exist.

Do what you can to become the ‘The more attractive and social 10%,’ and use that status to attract a quality wife, instead of fucking whores.

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“…instead of fucking whores.”

They’re all whores.

It takes a Patriarchy to create “sane and healthy” kids. In this respect, in the West, the war is lost before you even show up to the battlefield.

“…like the makeup caked image of beauty we are programmed to be attracted to…”

“Sex is overrated… Not unlike drugs.”

Where have I heard that before? lol. When you break them down, tradcons and feminists are practically indistinguishable.

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They’re not all whores.

A whore receives money, and trades sex for it.

A wife receives money, and trades children for it.

There’s a hell of a difference.

> When you break them down, tradcons and feminists are practically indistinguishable.

A stopped watch is right twice a day. But sure, if you think that an anti-egalitarian ideology that believes in patriarchy and the submissiveness of women to men is “practically indistinguishable” from feminism, well, be my guest.

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dey all whores….fo sho

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I would argue here that your perception of the “average co-ed” is a perfect example of your view being skewed by porn. A girl who does that is not an average girl in any way, she’s a damaged porn slut. Anal is one thing, but anal-to-mouth (or anal-to-vagina) is an unhealthy and self-destructive act that is repugnant to any normal female.

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yeah, you should never go ass to mouth.

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nah…it’s because there ain’t no pussy worth the trouble. it all gets tired after a while.

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I doubt that. You don’t get any “good feeling” from porn, as you do from real sex. So I don’t think that you fool your brain at all. Your brain knows very well that it’s watching porn and that it’s a waste of time.

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It’s actually quite easy to fool the brain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxwn1w7MJvk

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“The brain can change in response to experience… temporarily rewiring itself to adopt the plastic hand as its own”

Makes me think this can be applied somehow to reverse the negative effects of modern feminism? I learn so much on this site!

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yourbrainonporn.com

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@porcelaincheekbones:disqus yeah that is a pretty horrifying website. I’ve been “trying” to quit and it’s been pretty challenging. Definitely used to watch porn every day or every other day, but I “quit” after watching that video, and I’m on day 9 right now, which is probably my longest streak so far. It’s crazy though, just READING about “relapsing” like incentivizes my subconscious to start thinking about porn, and thus about sexual release, which, as we all know, is a super, super strong urge. I really need to get laid more often, but since I’m single right now, that is the challenge. And I’m not a master of game like Roosh is…. sad

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It tricks your body into believing it has been satisfied. Hormones like dopamine and oxytocin are released making you relax and de stressed. You have to make a conscious decision that this is no replacement for a healthy sex life. Men need to get laid. Masturbation is not a replacement for a healthy male. If you are not strong enough to break away from the porn and pursue women you are a man addicted to porn.

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I also think it depends on how you feel about relationships. As I’ve gotten older, my tolerance for bullshit from women has virtually disappeared – first sign of games or bitchiness and I’m gone. Women don’t bring anything to the table any more – they’ve been trained that the vay-jay-jay is the trump card to end all trump cards, and that’s all they need – and they believe you only get what they decide to “give” to you. When you look at the investment in time/money to get laid vs. just rubbing one out and moving on to other more productive things, well, IMO it’s not worth it. You could spend hundreds of dollars in time and money for one pathetic romp in the sack. If you should run across a woman worth spending time with, by all means, make her your focus sexually and eschew the porn, but if you’re faced with either mining “low-grade ore” (as in my area of the country) or taking care of yourself, well, ROI points to the latter. Game and all that maneuvering has value when you’re younger, I guess, but after 40 … meh … not so much.

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@terrancekenallen:disqus I think partially true. I pursue a lot of women and get laid maybe a couple times every couple months, but porn is like easy access and a “quick fix”.

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Once upon a time men were able to bang rocks on logs and call it music.

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hip hop still about the same…

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Well, a lot of the old skool rap (which is actually rather clever). Today’s hip-hop is so technologically loaded, they could not make anything remotely passable like this stuff 50 years ago.

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today’s men suffer from problems like…..can’t get it up without porn

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nah…need hotter chicks….and fat chicks should not shave the beaver…man, nothing worse than a chubby vajayjay with no fur!

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Great comment, but we used to have a saying that a man that has regular sexual interaction gives off an aura that attracts other females, maybe its the air of confidence a man somehow feels from it. A little bit always seems to get a man a lot more and his game is greatly affected by it whether he wants to admit it or not. Is masturbation a cure for dry spells, yes I admit it’s a relief, but could also make you not up to the task when you get the opportunity to end the dry spell. You only get one chance to make a first impression, and I would hate to think that an earlier porn session might affect the experience in a negative way!

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^This. There may be something in the wisdom from There’s Something About Mary regarding going in with a “loaded gun” but if you are out to close a deal whether in seduction or business, having a hard on to get what you want is nothing but good.

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There is at least one comprehensive study out there that concluded there was a negative correlation between porn and rapes. Either more porn leads to fewer rapes, or more rapes leads to wanting less porn, or there is a third, independent variable at play that pushes them in opposite directions.

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Laws surrounding self defense or definition of rape changed?

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That’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what porn does. Porn does not “calm you down.” It turns you into a prurient degenerate who needs stimulation of an increasingly deviant nature in order to maintain the high.

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@Ayatollah Obama:disqus I don’t think it NECESSARILY needs to be “increasingly deviant”. I know that is mentioned in the book “The Brain That Changes Itself”, but that was just several examples. I think for some people they can find their “thing” that gets them off and then they can end the slope of deviance or non-deviance there. For example, I imagine a guy with a foot fetish wouldn’t evolve in such a way that he needs to see amputated feet, you know what I mean? Maybe new feet, different feet, feet with painted toenails, whatever. but I think people have their “sweet spot” for what gets them off. And I think that sexual release DOES calm you down. I know for a fact that when I orgasm, whether from masturbating to porn of having sex with a woman, I feel MUCH, MUCH more calm afterward.

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There’s a concern about becoming addicted to porn. When you are using porn as way to replace dating and having a healthy normal sex life then it is effecting you negatively. If a man is seeing other men fucking beautiful women constantly and then getting rejected out in the real world it may cause him to give up dating and just masturbate to porn as a replacement for getting laid. This means he has become addicted. If a man is strong enough to reject porn and keep trying at dating until he gets what he needs and develops and normal sex life then he is not addicted.

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Mmmm – don’t really agree with the idea that you’re “addicted” if you’re not dating. If you’re spending a great deal of time and money just trying to get laid, is that a wise investment? There is a massive dearth of quality women – i.e. women who want to be women and who are worth spending time and effort on. Most of them have been so corrupted by the you-go-girl-hypergamy-it’s-all-about-you feminist poison (whether they realize it or not) that they truly are not worth the time and effort to even get beyond the meeting stages.

I think it makes a difference where you are in your life – at some point, you realize all the time and effort you spent over the years tolerating bitchy, self-centered, self-absorbed women just to spend a tiny percentage of that having “fun” (which usually came nowhere near expectations) really wasn’t worth it. Although I think porn has done a great deal of damage to the natural relationships between men and women, this trend will probably have to run it’s course before anything changes.

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Bullshit, rape was rare until the past few decades so don’t give me that BS. Considering that masturbation in mass is also a recent invention

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@abbaokoro:disqus “rape was rare until the past few decades”?? LOL hat are you smoking man? rape is as old as differentiated genders (IE male and female). Male ducks gang-rape female ducks, male dolphins do the same to female dolphins. Rape is just part of animal sexuality, and has been basically forever. In ancient times invading armies would “rape and pillage”. These are just facts.

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I’m glad you put this out, because I’m doing my darndest to give it up forever, and I need the extra motivation. It’s funny, because I was just thinking yesterday how it absolutely influences you to value promiscuous women over higher quality females.

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tariq nasheed in his book mack withtin did say 1 good woman is better then 100 chickenheads(sluts)……suddenly tradionally upbringing wins

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Good observation Roosh. I think you are on to something with this. We tend to copy what we see around. It is the main way that we learn new skills, and our brain does not seem able to differentiate what it sees in the real world and what it sees in video. Like that observation of how those who watch 2 hours of TV a day or more think 40% of the population is gay. That amount is closer to TV representation than it is in real life (around 2%).

Watching porn actresses cannot possibly be helping the brain to pick women who would make good wives and mothers.

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The modern American woman has basically opted out of being either. If you are going to put up with them then they might as well be slim and eager to please rather than settling for what feminists will hand you as being a “real” woman.

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Agreed. Women have opted out of their part of the relationship bargain – yet fully expect men to cater to their every need as well as taking most if not all of their traditional roles. I was talking to a friend last week and we were on the subject, and I asked him, “Other than the rare and pathetic sex you usually get from the average woman, what is the up-side to relationships and marriage today?” … he stared at me for a minute and said, “Huh … when you think about it, there are no up-sides.”

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Funny I was thinking of this on my drive to work this morning. It’s the overt “anything goes” message of porn that is also translated to mainstream shows(i.e. sitcoms, dramas, hollywood movies) but it is more subtle there. In this regard, the thought also hit my head that all porn is actually gay porn.

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all porn is actually gay porn.

This.

Anybody else noticed how nearly every porn flick is full of sodomy and other unhealthy deviant or borderline-deviant acts?

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Call me a prude but I find the obsession with anal to be repulsive …

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As portrayed in all the hetero porn I have seen it is clearly an act of violation and domination (not that there is anything wrong with THAT, lol). It has become more mainstream than BDSM – whether in porn or real life – but the message is the same. Very few women will actively seek it out but most who will give in to it won’t say no the second time.

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I know guys who think it’s strange that I find anal sex disgusting. Well, your anus is an exit, not an entrance. Never did anal sex, also never had girlfriends who liked the idea. What kind of man wants to disgrace his penis with shit?

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they still make countless hours of women just fondling their boobies

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Porn is nothing but a harmless diversion for the goyim … I at least appreciate that you didn’t mention anything about the Jewish domination of the porn industry as we are watching you closely for any more anti-Semitic outbursts …

http://www.jewishquarterly.org/issuearchive/articled325.html?articleid=38

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We agree wholeheartedly. This needs wider dissemnation.

We wrote about this here: https://purushatma.wordpress.com/2015/08/15/avoid-porn-like-a-plague/

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Dissemination. That word sounds fucking hilarious in the context of this discussion.
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Would anal porn be “detailed dissemination”?

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Unsurprisingly, it is the jews who created the pornography industry from whole cloth.

Al Goldstein, founder of Screw Magazine, admitted “The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don’t believe in authoritarianism.”

The Jewish Quarterly admits, “Jews have helped to transform a fringe subculture into what has become a primary constituent of Americana.”

http://www.jewishquarterly.org/issuearchive/articled325.html?articleid=38

Google the jewish role in the pornography industry. You will have hours of reading material.

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Where you find vice (porn, gambling, prostitution, etc.), you will also find a hook-nosed merchant gleefully rubbing his hands together …

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They’re in the porn industry because it’s a billion dollar industry

Porn popularity is a function of fattening women and competitive sexual markets. In a society where these two conditions didn’t occur porn wouldn’t be nearly as popular.

Jews just happened to get in on the ground floor once these conditions were created

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Not really. They admit that they took a particular glee in dismantling an “authoritarian” Christian society. They admit this ad nauseum.

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Jews don’t “just happen” to do anything.

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False, you ignore the evidence I provided.

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I don’t doubt Jews are highly over-represented in the industry, but Al Goldstein is not the biggest of the modern porn pioneers. Hugh Hefner, Bob Guccione and Larry Flynt were bigger, none of them Jews.

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Hefner may well be jewish.

Hefner Name Meaning German and Jewish (Ashkenazic): occupational name for a potter

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He’s German Protestant afaik.

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All three of those were Johnny come latelies.

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Brown shirt alert.

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AshekNAZI alert. Jews funded Hitler. Get Roddy Piper off of your avatar, hypocrite.

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Vatican controls Jews. Always have since Middle Ages. Rothschilds nothing more than purseholders of Vatican billions. Did you make that armband yourself?

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George is the most ignorant fool I’ve ever witnessed posting on here.

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Nazis under the bed. I did not see that coming.

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Ricky Vaughn. You are 100% correct. How man female Porn “Stars” wear crosses? It’s an attempt to demean Christianity by using it’s symbol in the most disrespectful way possible.

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Excellent post. However, I am unaware of a “thirst epidemic.” It no doubt exists. Men and women have been deeply damaged by porn, as well as the sexual revolution as a whole.

I will give one rule of thumb for those who are in a state of thirst when looking at women: Wife and mother. When you look at a woman from a sexual perspective, look a little more deeply and imagine her as your wife and the mother of your children. Picture her pushing a stroller, or getting ice cream with you and the children at an amusement park. It changes the picture and puts the sexual focus back in its context.

Start looking for your wife and the mother of your children and cease trying to “get laid.” Deal with any porn addiction with CBT or check out nofap and pornfree. The biggest key is to reframe lust by focusing on women as individuals, and as potential life partners. I don’t know how many very beautiful women I’ve seen, said, to myself, OK, wife and mother, and recognized I could not possibly share a household with that woman, regardless of legs and breasts.

Good luck.

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Men don’t want sluts, they want a woman who is THEIR slut. All things being equal, I would want my wife and the mother of my children to be slim, sexy, and rocking my world on a regular basis. With perfection out of the question, there is still only so much I would be willing to compromise on sexually regardless of how sweet, attractive and caring she is otherwise.

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It’s sad to hear the thirst has spread to euripe as well.

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Porn will also convince your brain that sex is free of consequences.

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Porn gives an illusion that sex is abundant, essentially convincing your brain to pursue an r-selected mating strategy. This can lead to thirst in guys who might otherwise have a more civilized restraint in such matters.

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It’s dangerous in the context of a culture that tells women to be fruitful but not multiply because there are pills and surgery available to avoid responsibility. Women want to fuck 15 guys before they settle down and yet they are somehow surprised that a) guys want to fuck 15 women and b) their fuck buddies only perceive them as 1/15th as worthwhile as the girl who only gives it up to her future husband.
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It would be an r-selected strategy but-for reliable birth control. Certainly at a conscious level guys do not want to be like that dude who has 42 kids all to different women.

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Its pointless talking about all of these societal issues without bringing up the Jewish question.

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Whether or not the jews were responsible we are still responsible for our actions. Blaming the system does not in any way change the situation in the same way personal responsibility does.

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Yes, you stupid goyim have no one but yourselves to blame!

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oh, geez. not you again.
Go jerk off to some old Hitler videos on youtube, goon

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Brown shirt alert again.

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NEO NAZI BOT ALERT, SHUT IT DOWN!

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White people are always the victim.

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Questionable causation when the rate of obesity (not just chubbiness) has doubled in girls (not just old ladies)

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It’s almost a win in itself to snag a thin chick today, thin chick’s used to be a dime a dozen!

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agreed. I hate fat women.
I go to Eastern Europe & Asia often. If more men did this, Yankee women might thin-up a bit more.

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I’d love to hear a justification as to how more porn creates fat chicks (mainstream, not into Rule 34 territory). The connection the other way is obvious while postulating that either feminism or PUA culture creates both seems absurd.

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Pretty simple. Women give up when they feel like they can’t compete.

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So that is the feminist “unrealistic standards of beauty” argument, with the result that they reach for the Haagen Dazs and Cheetos to comfort their shattered ego?

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Not really the “unrealistic standards of beauty” argument, which is pretty retarded. I’m no feminist, and I’m not overweight or unattractive. I think the general standard of beauty is perfectly natural and reasonable. But there was a time in my life when a boyfriend made me feel unattractive because I’m not a big-titted blonde – because that’s what he was drooling over constantly in his Playboys and Penthouses. It felt like there was no way I could possibly compete, and I was insecure and uncomfortable in the bedroom because of it. It had a profound effect on my self-esteem which took years to get over.

Then I met my husband, who prefers brunettes, loves my small perky breasts, and has no more than a cursory interest in porn. He makes me feel beautiful. I think I must be practically incandescent when I’m around him. smile His love and desire for me makes me want to strive to keep myself looking as good as I possibly can for him. He’s not busy comparing me to porn sluts, his desire is focused on me and mine on him. I do everything I can to please him and be desirable to him, because I am and I can; and our sex life is nothing short of explosive! XD

Now, I’ll never be fat, I just don’t have the genes or the frame for it; but had I been someone inclined to plumpness, I have no doubt I would have gotten fatter with my ex-boyfriend, because I stopped taking pride in my appearance. A woman who is unhappy with herself and thinks her husband prefers porn chicks to her will let herself go. She will also shut down sexually because she doesn’t want him to compare her to them when they have sex. She knows she’s becoming more unattractive, but she feels like he doesn’t really want her anyway, so what difference does it make? Her lack of a healthy sex life and feeling undesired and unloved then leads to depression and more weight gain. It becomes a self-perpetuating cycle. I’ve seen it many times.

Just my own observations and experience as a female, that’s all. smile

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It’s the same way 50 Shades promotes female thirst for commitment from powerful sociopaths. Get rich, jacked and be a moral deviant and you’ll get the best looking women.

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right on!

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The thing is, she left him in the end displaying the power of her virgin vagina to have all the resources of a jacked billionaire at her disposal, and then toss him away like a Kleenex.

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Disagree. Men’s long dry spells are caused by the feminisation of men and women’s being encouraged to delay marriage and commitment. Porn is at best only tangentially related to either of these.

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Porn isn’t causing anything although it may be reinforcing some dysfunctional practices. Men are thirsty and porn is exploding because women are getting fat and ornery.

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How many guys actually watch a lot of porn anyway? I’ve never been particularly interested in it, even when I was younger and had a lot of trouble getting laid. I look at it occasionally just to do something different, probably less than once a month, and not particularly hardcore. Am I weird?

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I doubt porn is the most important dynamic at play here. The claim is made, but it is not possible to see how you came to that conclusion and it seems rather random. It is much more likely that whatever is going on in the sexual marketplace now has been heavily influenced by social media and the ease with which real women can be “chased” now. Nightclubs have increased by tenfold in Eastern Europe in the last 20 years. There was no social media in that part of the world 10 years ago. This definitely has a massive effect on the sexual and dating dynamics. I do not think there is any real data on “male thirst” anyway. From the limited data I have seen, porn viewing has actually gone down in young males in the last five years. That is an important counter to the basic claim of the article and a reason why the central argument has to be supported by at least some kind of hard evidence.

In response to the comments about virgins, I should make the point that I do not want a virgin (I would expect 90% of men would want what I describe below..), but a woman with basic sexual skills and a strong desire to please a man. When I get a girl who has a high sexual skill level despite only a few sex partners, I am usually impressed. I would want them to have had only one or two partners before me who trained them very well (I have experienced this before in Eastern Europe), so that I don’t need to spend the first two months of the relationship training them.

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I agree. What I enjoy the most is the girl who has had ~3 sex partners, all LTRs, and is amazing with sex and oral. But from all the data I have seen, this would not be the ideal woman to marry. Ideally marry a virgin, again if this is your wife, 2 months of sexual training is nothing in the big picture (and compared to 216 months of child support payments).

Do not, under any circumstances, marry a woman with more than 3 sex partners.

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For some men, the training is part of the fun.

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Yes, training can be part of the fun, but it is not a lot of fun if the first ten blow jobs are very sub-par (if the sex life is not satisfying at an early stage, a lot of men will lose interest). I find myself teaching women things even who are very sexually experienced or hyper-sexual and thinking about sex all day themselves. I don’t think I said training is a bad thing, but a complete beginner usually does not do well with anything 7 inches and up without a few weeks or months of solid work in. A 22-year-old woman I dated this summer could barely give oral, despite having been with 5 men (by her count, so probably a fair amount more). She’d given hundreds of blow jobs before and her skill level was very low. After being with me for 4 weeks she did it better than 90% of pornstars. I am pretty sure this experience is not unique for men who teach women similar things. I think they would all want the first bj to start off that way. or close. Afterwards they can still teach her a lot.

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Don’t you think what constitutes a good blowjob differs from man to man? There are general techniques that are pleasurable, of course, but every man has his little quirks and preferences; which means there is always a training period of some sort, in which the woman learns the things that are pleasing to you as an individual.

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In general, I would agree, but I think every guy likes a deep blowjob and to at least have the option to ejaculate down a woman’s throat. A lot of women haven’t met a confident man who just shows her what he likes. For guys who are above 6.5 inches, it usually isn’t very easy for women to do it well. Have you ever talked to a guy with a 9 incher before? They literally have support groups. It is extremely common to hear talk of getting little satisfaction from oral. Have you read any sexual census reports showing that 13% of men report sexual satisfaction in a relationship? It’s sad, but this is all connected. Personally I think guys are simple and don’t have a lot of requirements to be pleased.

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Maybe I’m naïve – or maybe I was just well-trained early on! wink – but I honestly would have thought going deep and taking a man’s cum down her throat would be standard procedure for any woman giving a blowjob. I always get a bit mind-boggled when I realize that’s not actually the case.

My husband told me he never really enjoyed blowjobs much before we got together. I told him it’s my absolute favorite thing to do, and then I deepthroated him; now they’re one of his favorite things, too, and he pushes me down to my knees and opens up his pants whenever he feels like it. I think my husband is at least 7 inches, maybe a little more once he’s fully hard, and I do gag and choke on him a bit, but then again, we both like that, so it’s not a problem. smile

Early in our relationship he said he wished he was a bit longer, and I replied that first of all, he has the biggest penis I’ve seen in real life, and secondly, those guys with crazy-long dicks are miserable because they almost never get to really bottom out balls-deep in anything, be it mouth or pussy. I said I felt sorry for them. He thought about that for a few seconds and said yeah, that would suck. smile

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Two things: Theory of mind is very important. Sometimes it’s hard to understand that others have completely different perspectives and experiences. It’s kind of shocking to think how little effort most people put into having a fulfilling relationship and a fulfilling sex life (and I think that effort is going to be less and less with the ease of finding new partners on social media apps like Tinder). I would say I greatly enjoyed sex with only a couple of women I was with and it was almost exclusively due to their willingness to try new things, experiment, and have fun. Secondly, I went on a date with a woman three weeks ago who said, “Porn creates unrealistic expectations for men.” I suppose it would have been a better idea to maintain the peace and agree with her, but I told her that most women in porn give very poor blow jobs too. I explained that in a little bit of detail, but in all likelihood, my standards most likely scared her. On a related note, I do find it to be a good general rule for men to avoid discussing their past relationships or sexual experiences with new women (or even their indirect sexual standards, as I did there). Rather than creating any connection, it just seems to spoil the moment and ruin the mood.

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Lester Burnham: Look at me, jerking off in the shower… This will be the high point of my day; it’s all downhill from here.

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NIce one Roosh. Any dig at the disgraceful porn epidemic is welcome.

Not only does it indeed increase thirst, it’s also debasing, both for men and women.

We should get rid of it.

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I know a guy who got into plumbing because of porn. He thought he was gonna bang lonely housewives all day. Unless you wanna do overweight grannies it was a bad idea.

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Been in the A/C trade for 30+ year’s and the only female that gave me the “You Wanna take it out in Trade” proposal, was my girlfriend’s, stripper sister. I took it as a setup and declined, but still wonder if I made the right choice.

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If she’s still your gf, you made the right choice. If she’s not, maybe you didn’t.

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Your right when you say that porn is toxic, it has in fact a very similar effect on the brain dopamine system than most drug! It is addictive and you will need a more intense product with time. Plus like you said, a good women will be very unlikely to satisfy your newly developed porn based hardcore sexual fantasy …

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“a good women will be very unlikely to satisfy your newly developed porn based hardcore sexual fantasy”

You have to find a “good woman” first, which is easier said than done.

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trued I was like maniac when watchedd porn now quit it and I’m normal again

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Porn also drives the desire to “one-up” viewing experiences. Men get bored of regular porn sex and seek out weirder and stranger acts to get off. This no doubt carries over into the bedroom.

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Unlike drugs like cocaine where to get a bigger high you need to do more of the drug to hit threshold, with porn you need to see something different to get stimulated rather than more of the same.

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I think porn also has a side-effect. I’ll bet that I recognize at least 10 faces of the porn I watched in the last decade. Just plain girls I’ve seen in a video. It has such a strong impact on the memory as well.

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Sorry Roosh, you’re wrong on this one. Porn actually increases your ‘standard’ (more precisely your arousal rate) as average or slightly above average women won’t be as appealing after watching all the highly attractive (albeit slutty and trashy) women in porn.

Just look at Japan where they are saturated with porn and hentai. They have an epidemic of young men who are sexually dried up and uninterested in women. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men

Male thirst is caused by the unregulated sexual marketplace with females practicing alpha fucks beta bucks strategy and attention whoring on social media, nothing else.

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I get the point you’re trying to make.
However, it doesn’t seem like a valid comparison, Eastern and Western minds are different (that has to be accepted).
Japan’s culture and expectations are very rigid (they have a dozen ways to say “sorry” for instance, bow in greeting, follow a specific code of honor and face, and take their shoes off each time they come inside), and porn/hentai in Japan is majorly censored, Mangaka aren’t allowed to draw genitalia in full view, there’s an actual law, while AV is covered by heavy mosaic.
The grass-eater and hikikomori phenomenons also don’t seem to be from a sexual stimuli overload, but from a “metrosexual” movement coupled with the knowledge that females enjoy substantial privileges in modern urban Japanese society (including being catered to in markets and overall adoration) along with something similar to extreme MGTOW or in the case of hikikomori, an absolute terror of interacting with other people, especially females.

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Okay, the japanese case is probably a lot more complex than simply porn, but regardless of culture, porn doesn’t increase thirst as Roosh says. It alters your libido so that you become more aroused by women in video images while you become less aroused by women in real life. So it actually decreases thirst.

http://markmanson.net/pornography-can-ruin-your-sex-life
For more, Google ‘porn on sex drive.’

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I may be misunderstanding “thirst” here, I was thinking of it as a drive/need to have sex. In that way, porn will necessarily advance behaviors in people with greater susceptibility to the stimuli to the point of any other addiction, and once something becomes an addiction the “need” for it becomes overwhelming.
The question for me is:
Is everyone equally susceptible to the influence of porn, or like most addictive behaviors/stimuli does it present differently across the spectrum? Sometimes having an inverse correlation, or even causing some to exhibit the exact opposite reaction?
For the non-addict, or the average person the results might be a variable alteration to their arousal. For instance, there are now many more Brazilian, Thai, and North American transsexual porn performers and films, more viewers watching anal, and a seeming direct correlation to a social tolerance of the act itself and the people most likely to be involved along with abnormal sexual deviance acceptance.
Porn likely, as you say, even alters/effects what some people find arousing in different ways and to different degrees.
Between what you have presented and what Roosh has stated, there is probably a fairly comprehensive theory regarding the complexity of pornography’s influence on sex in society as well as on a personal level.

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If a guy watches porn and thinks “I want to do that with a girl who looks like that!”
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Hypothesis A: Sexual drive and thirst increase as men venture forth to find that.
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Hypothesis B: Sexual drive and thirst decrease when his dejected ass realizes that most girls don’t look like that and those that do don’t want to do that with HIM. Back to the computer with KY and Kleenex in hand.

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“porn doesn’t increase thirst as Roosh says. It alters your libido so that you become more aroused by women in video images while you become less aroused by women in real life. So it actually decreases thirst”

This is the case with me especially looking a Playboy and Penthouse in the 1970’s starting at age 9. Essentially what happened to me was that after looking at these photos in the magazines, rarely did any females I encountered measure up to my expectations. But I have to say that I’m not complaining, because the times I banged, they were with the more stunning looking chicks on the beauty scale, and then women became demystified for me.

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with all the mgtows,incels,neckbeards,neets are just other herbivore men….gets you wondering how many of them are in the west and racial breakdown of it.

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Porn is a sterile arousal environment as such it produces a flat, clinical , emotionless orgasm.

Sex is a complicated chemical laden arousal environment as such it produces an all encompassing sensory experience leading to a true satiation however impermanent.

Porn is just a product like any candy bar, reality tv or fast-food , arousal without nourishment. Ok as an rare indulgence , damaging as a habitual behaviour.

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I agree, and you miss one of the best part’s of sex, the blow job appetizer!

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Having sex with women will also increase the thirst.

Lust: the more you eat, the hungrier it gets.

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Seems like lust is designed for marriage.

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seems like modern American women have been designed for non-marriage. hence, the problem.

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it’s true, one of my good friends in L.A. did porn. I once asked him, “describe your ideal woman” He said, “the one that is next.”

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Sitting down here at my table and desperately trying to figure out what porn has to do with the general inability of almost all Western males to stand their own grounds, to have an own opinion, to dare to differ, to stand up and be counted and to lead by example???
How come porn has never impacted my views, visions of life and thoughts about having sex, being in a relationship or getting married?
How can one blend something artificial happening on a computer screen with a real life’s feelings, touches, emotions, scents of a woman?
Even the best possible porn will never be able to remotely replace real sex nor should it be able to create any kind of a “sex thirst”.
How are attractive males going out with ugly girls associated with porn??? Ain’t porn promoting sexy and well taken care of bodies, hair, nails, skin???
But then quality males with ugly girls are the opposite of what porn promotes!
Contradictory, eh?;)

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I don’t know, I’ve seen some pretty nasty-looking female porn stars…

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Porn encourages multiple sex partners. (The Coolige Effect) Dopamine increases with each new bang. I would think the negative effects of porn would be similar to the negative effects of 100s of pump and dumps. So why give up porn but continue to pump and dump?

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We seriously need to start a campaign to get sex services legalized. It would solve so many of these issues. Even some feminist agree that women should have a right to sell sex with their own bodies should they so choose. If a man could just run down the street at lunch and get a good “BJ” any time he wanted for a reasonable rate and with low fear of disease and/or criminal prosecution this world would change overnight for the better.

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are you serious? “Run down the street & get a good bj”?
I would never let a hooker put her mouth around my wang…or anything else. You’re effen sick, dude. & just to consider a prostitute makes you a huge loser.

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That’s because “hookers” right now have to do it illegally… which means they are usually all gross. The really hot ones aren’t willing to take the chance of going to jail and good clients don’t exist except at the highest expense levels (high end call girls). If it were regulated for health and legalized so that hot women and high quality men could get the services without fear, you would see that “prostitutes” would increase significantly in cleanliness and looks as to what was available. There would still be gross ones and they would be much cheaper….
Let’s be honest though, when you go to a bar and spend 200 bucks on alcohol and food to get that girl to go home and have sex… you’re still buying hooker, you just aren’t calling it that.
My question is, why is someone a loser that is willing to pay for sex directly rather than indirectly? Maybe you’re just not honest with yourself?

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Or, hmm, I don’t know, maybe that girl you bought food and drinks for actually likes you and thinks you’re sexy and the money you spent has nothing to do with it?

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Or they just wanted free drinks and they do it every night with some other schmuck buying them stuff to the point they actually don’t pay for food…
like this lady : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAhO5SLF9Ck
or they pull stuff like this:
http://elitedaily.com/humor/girls-tinder-games-deliver-pizza/1026727/

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Chicks like this are just the female equivalent of Roosh. If one’s acceptable, the other has to be. I dislike both sides, as I think an adversarial, predatory attitude towards the opposite sex is unhealthy and counterproductive. Women who actually think that way are a small minority of damaged, semi-sociopathic bitches, just as I like to think (hope!) that men who see women the way some in these comments do also represent a damaged minority of their sex.

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Well, i didn’t say every woman was like that…. but I think *a lot* are like that. My point is if quality sex were readily available and easy to get for men (through legalized prostitution) or a truly good substitute (AI dolls etc) men wouldn’t be enticed to put up with crap like this. The good news is according to some articles the AI sex thing and virtual reality stuff with haptic feedback are very close to being true substitutes.

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I do think it’s sad that there are men who put up with this and allow themselves to be used for money in the hopes that they will receive sex, just as I think it’s sad that there are women who allow themselves to be used for sex in the hopes that they will receive love. However, I can’t help but think these types (both male and female) are reduced to this behavior because they are naturally lacking in the necessary qualities, i.e. sex appeal for the men and… whatever it is in women that makes men care about them instead of just use them for sex (sorry, still haven’t figured that one out, despite being a married woman). If undesirable men can have recourse to prostitutes to fulfill their need for sex, to what can an unloved woman have recourse to fulfill her very real need for masculine love and affection?

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I’ll tell you ok, only because the first sentence you wrote there I found to be very powerful and you write many truths.

We don’t need your love and we don’t need your money.

When it comes down to it, the truth of it is we need sexual gratification. And we can only get that from you. We value you as a women first and foremost on how much value YOU place on your pussy.

Allow me to explain. All girls who are found to be in the bar and club environments immediately earn negative respect from all men because guys are thinking “Wow, all these girls came here for cock and they are giving their pussy away here”. Their cocks are loving it and having a good time but in the back of their minds they have no respect for those girls because the women, by sheer force of choosing to be there, are judged as putting little to no value on their pussy’s! Whether she fucks that guy that night or not will not make him respect her anymore. He will HATE her for not fucking him that night and wasting his time. Then you end up with guys like Roosh. Oh and you bitches who think you can play both the club-goer by night/good girl virgin by day roles, listen up – you can fool some people some of the time but YOU ARE FOOLING NOBODY ALL OF THE TIME.

Forget those tricks, back to topic.

I’ve postulated that a woman who places the utmost respect on her vagina will be seen as the most respectable therefore the highest quality marriage-material type lady. Also known as a virgin. That’s why a man in olden times was bound by marriage to a virgin first in order to have sex with her because that’s some AAA puss right there, son. You gotta invest your whole life if you want to hit THAT shit.

It boils down to this; Respect and unlimited plus unconditional sexual access, loyalty, then companionship. All in that order. Notice how respect and pussy are in the same sentence. Respect is THAT important for men. The longer we are with you and the better you treat us in the aforementioned fashion, the more our love will grow for you.

Everybody deserves the same respect and dignity. But when it comes to matters of the heart, cock and vag when choosing a partner, it needs to be measured by the level of respect and dignity that person has for themselves and not with a ruler for their cock.

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Using those analogies would be accurate if this article said using porn correlates with the frequency of rapes. In fact, porn correlates with a decline in rape. If anything, using porn damages your libido. Excessive use severely weakens libido. Regular use can lead to effects described in this article – maybe not increasing thirst in the libido sense, but certainly alter your expectations or needs for stimulation.

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My reply was meant for general Stalin. Stupid iPad.

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oh, i don’t think porn causes rape at all… and i’m not sure why you thought I was saying that. What I was saying is that if men could have sex anytime they want, they wouldn’t have to turn to porn to get a “release” and wouldn’t have sex on their minds all the time.

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This gave me an idea.. state sponsored sex workers at hospitals. Think of all the lives we could save!!

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This is one of the Manosphere tropes I’ve never really agreed with. I will say that watching pornography and masturbating a lot can certainly have an effect on your libido and ability to enjoy sex properly – but this sentiment here is essentially the same as saying violent video games cause school shootings and listening to explicit music teaches people to be rapists and murderers. At the end of the day it is just audio/visual entertainment that a functional human brain is perfectly capable of separating from reality.

I firmly believe the thirst is generated by recent cultural changes, not porn.

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“I firmly believe the thirst is generated by recent cultural changes, not porn.”

Agreed.

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CORRECT! Cultural changes coupled with political correctness, affirmative action, feminism, quota hiring, multiculturalism, tolerance and similar bullshit. White males have limited options to make money these days while all Western females only dream about selling themselves to the highest male bidder on a dating market thus the thirst of sex from the male part.
All women cater to 10% of males with money, cars, condos and status in the society!
Males stopped being males, they have no idea how to think, to lead, to stand up and be counted! But porn has nothing to do with that!

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I think for some guys, the only feminine women they will ever see naked is on porn. Long hair, painted nails, heels, pleasant smile. It’s sad.

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“I firmly believe the thirst is generated by recent cultural changes, not porn.”

But mass porn consumption *is* a recent cultural change. Especially amoung women.

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Violent video games/stimuli DO contribute to violent behavior.
There’s a reason why the military changed their shooting range targets to human-shaped targets instead of the old concentrical circled bullseye targets: It conditioned the soldiers-in-training to be more likely to shoot at actual humans.

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The same thing can be said of any narrative depicting violence in any way, shape or form then. Did the whole news about Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown contribute to some black dudes wanting to get even with innocent whiteys?

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The question is – how much the recent cultural changes were enabled by porn proliferation?

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I too believe your last sentence to be true.

If all males began behaving like MEN, the sexual market place would heal itself (culturally speaking). Women WILL NOT take the first step though, and why the hell would they?? They have maximized their biological mating strategy (AF/BB). Only when the majority of men begin to “act right” will women naturally follow, as this is biologically what they are programmed to do. The bitchy, entitled attitudes will fade away when almost every man they encounter on the street (and on Facebook) says “NO!!” to her bullshit.

Right now, only a minority of men truly have “game” and will say “NO!!” to a woman’s bullshit, and hence a relatively small percentage of men are laying a large percentage of the most genetically fit females while the rest of the males remain thirsty.

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Yeah, it’s caused by porn.
No it’s not because men watch porn that women are slappers.
To make porn, you have to have promiscuous women.
Just so happens that there is a whole lot of porn out there. That means a whole load of promiscuous women. There are no better women, is what I’m saying.
Don’t blame men for that, just because they are forced to watch it to satisfy their sexual needs while avoiding trashy women. That’s an insane line of thought.

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Women do what men say they find pleasing. Men control this behavior. When men valued chastity and demanded it, women were chaste (or at the very least made a good pretension at it). When men decided they preferred easy party girls, women became easy party girls. If the men turned around tomorrow and stopped giving sluts and whores attention, there would soon be a lot fewer sluts and whores. It’s simple supply and demand. Women want to please. They want male attention and approval. This is still a patriarchy – as men are naturally the dominant sex, there can never be anything else – it’s just a dysfunctional one. Men are always in control; the only variable is how they choose to exercise it. When it comes to women, you get what you ask for.

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No. Only a small group of men wield that power. Women control the sex market. They slut it up to appeal to alphas, not average joes.

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I disagree. As a male, you can’t possibly know a woman’s inner motivations; you can only guess at them, from your necessarily male perspective. As for your assertion: define “alpha”. If you asked 10 women to pick out the alpha in a room full of men, you’d get at least 5 different answers. What I described is the way women are; take it or leave it. From an inside perspective – as a woman – I know it to be true. Women are reactionary. We respond to male expectations. We do whatever wins male attention. That may conflict with what the “game experts” tell you (I don’t know), but it’s true nevertheless. Do with that what you will.

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Then why are men who are relatively well mannered and interesting less successful than the best looking or richest man in the room? Studies on female sexual selection don’t back up what you are saying, nor do anecdotes about speed dating provided by hosts.

When women pick partners based on sexual attraction–which they overwhelmingly do nowadays–they gravitate towards the same group of men and consider the others to be lesser or men that they will settle for when the time is right.

If women were as malleable and easy to influence as you say, many of us would not have the problem we do dating and living with contemporary women.

What you are saying is false, plain and simple.

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“When it comes to women, you get what you ask for”.

She definitely gets it.

Only thing I want to add is that the ones creating this unnatural public perception that men want whores and women should be whorish and give free blowjobs to any man who simply asks, are a select few groups who are pulling the strings at the top through the media. Why? Probably for money and control.

But in order for change to happen we need to come together as a collective and say NO and then have big orgies.

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I rarely disagree with Roosh, but I have to here. I think today’s porn is so good, it allows/encourages men to be more selective. Think about it: waste time/money/effort on a 6; or stream/download (usually for free) a scene from your favorite genre, featuring an 8/9-caliber starlet? Easy choice for me.

Maybe guys who are desperately chasing 5s and 6s, GF/wife-ing them up, all in the hope of securing some sex need more porn, not less.

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Totally agree. Just read what I wrote several messages below:
“How are attractive males going out with ugly girls associated with
porn??? Ain’t porn promoting sexy and well taken care of bodies, hair,
nails, skin???
But then quality males with ugly girls are the opposite of what porn promotes!
Contradictory, eh?;)”

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Good points – especially if it prevents some poor sucker from marrying a 4 or a 5 out of sexual thirst, and having a coin-flip chance of REMAINING married.

As for your point about selectivity, I agree that men will still seek out and prefer 7s and up on the scale… Unfortunately, in today’s sexual market place, these men may find disappointment in the fact that a relatively small percentage of men are laying the most desirable of females. And couple that with the fact that, as you said, they’ll perhaps have little knowledge of how to approach in real life… I can only hope more men begin to take the red pill and improving themselves!

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Agreed, but I think there is something with heavy porn use that is detrimental. Look at the ted talk on The Great Porn experiment posted above.
I think porn can reinforce feminine women, show married guys that you should expect sex more than once a year, and allow you to fantasize about your favorite ethnic group that may be hard for you to meet in your city, but it clearly has negative effects with daily use.

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Bollocks. I was horny as fuck since I was about 13 and was looking all over for porn (there was no internet). I would borrow porn for friends, I would rent porn at porn video shops.

You’re horny cause you have a penis. Men’s thirst is caused by their penis.

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The thirst is caused by beta men not getting sex. Porn relieves that thirst and provides and outlet. Porn also takes women’s sexual power away from men to some extent. Porn also reduces rape. Why rape when you can watch porn? Having said that, one needs to regulate and minimize porn consumption for better health, physical, mental and even spiritual. Over usage of porn can have serious negative consequences. Best to try to deal with real women — if that is not possible, then porn is always there as a back up.

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This article mistakes a symptom for the disease.

The disease is unleashed female hypergamy, which has a lot more to do with women entering the work force than modern contraception. This is what is causing men to become desperately thirsty. Women form soft harems with alpha males making it necessary for men to settle for less than they should be worth in a mate or to have no mate at all. This leads to men consuming porn.

The Japanese had porn for centuries, yet only now are running into societal disfunction. The Ancient Greeks and Romans had porn.

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“Women form soft harems with alpha males making it necessary for men to settle for less than they should be worth in a mate or to have no mate at all.”

In these days and age, no mate at all would be much better, back then a 7s SMV men might marry a 5-6s SMV women but he can at least rest assured that guaranteed she will obey & respect him and would be at his beck & call.

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Keep going and you might see the bigger picture

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You’re drinking too much SJW kool-aid Roosh. I hope you get better soon…..

Next you’ll be needing to shut-down Reaxxion because playing violent videogames leads to real world violence (sorry, “Thirst” for violent acts)

But thats been proven false already….

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/violent-video-games-dont-lead-to-increases-in-viol/1100-6422421/

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you gotta feed yourself now and then. he he

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I thought porn caused men to not chase women. One of the pua instructions was to stop fapping to porn.

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The feminine imperative requires two things: 1) men to chase women and 2) men having no idea what they are getting themselves into or how to manage it. Fapping to porn reduces #1 while the red pill deals with #2 which is why feminists hate both.

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Spot on all points. Most men even red pillers erroneously subscribe to the notion that feminists hate marriage. Of course feminist only hate marriage when it was still marriage 1.0 where the women were expected to submit to & respect their husbands, do all the house works, be slender as long as possible, unable to commit divorce-rape, etc etc.

I personally find porn to be liberating and concurrently rendered me to demystify women as a whole. Had I never seen any porn, I probably would have viewed the average plain Jane who showed interest and smiled at me as an Aphrodite incarnate. If anything, porn raised the bar further for fairly decent-looking women, let alone the land whale variety……..that’s why they hate porn with such a vengeful passion, heck, even *are you beach body ready?* was enough to cause them all up in arms.

Porn is the unsung unlauded ally of men, without it a 5’2″ 300 lbs woman would be exalted as the golden standard for beauty pageants because it is “realistic”.

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Women love marriage when they are in charge. With divorce 2.0 (on demand for any reason with almost guaranteed child custody and 90% of the financial benefits while getting rid of the man who is paying the bills), marriage became SO attractive that (in Canada anyways) common law marriage has been expanding to lasso men into a marriage after a couple of years in a relationship that might look like one but the “wife” couldn’t get the guy to actually agree to it.

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Also when the guys in porn are not necessarily any different than average guys it makes you realize these hot nubile beauties are readily available, and not just for movie stars. Porn teaches that hot 9s and 10s can and will fuck you.

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For money.

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Beta males following the cultural rules and getting no sexual reward or societal respect for being good blue pill betas is the root cause for the thirst.

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I tried explaining the same thing above, but it took me MANY MORE words…

Well said.

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I recently read that there was a link between prostate cancer and a lack of ejaculation – somthing about the pressure buildup. Not sure how valid the study was. Perhaps some of you here know more about this than I do.

If so, that could be the only caveat here. Besides that, in my opinion, porn should be treated as a “once in a blue moon” indulgence.

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Literally, that would be once each year (13 lunar cycles to 12 calendar months). One part in 12 – or roughly each fortnight – is a more reasonable minimum target.

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That is stellar (pardon the pun).

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With proper exercises and blue ball build up you can “shoot for the stars”!

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That’s why we have wet dreams. Nature is great !

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I think the prostate trouble/ejaculation link is actually caused by too much *weak* ejaculation. In other words, it’s the ejaculatory equivalent of not emptying your bladder completely when you pee. The prostate fluid starts to back up. An enlarged prostate can be treated by regular prostate massage. The lesson: a half-hearted wank with weak ejaculation is NOT better than nothing. Save it for a real explosion.

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I would argue the opposite. Widely available porn sets standards higher such that men do no have to put up with all manner of women’s nonsense just to get some sexual gratification.
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Due to Rule 34, all sorts of debauchery are available online. However, the technology has led to a democratization of porn (and all media for that matter) so there is a proliferation of amateur and “girl next door” material out there. A lot of guys want that, and so there it is.
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The amateurs tend to be nice looking but with professional “mainstream” porn, it is a nightmare for feminists and modern American women because the performers have “unrealistic” bodies. I’m not talking about silicone-enhanced mamazons but rather the fact that your typical porn stars cluster in the 19 to 22 BMI range (with the latter sometimes described as “full figured” without the euphemistic intent) while the average BMI for an American woman is more like 26. (At 5’4″ that would be roughly 110 to 130 – with the mid-point being the classic “100 at 5-foot plus 5 pounds per inch” – versus 153lb although some studies have pegged it at high as 163, or a 28 BMI.)
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One can set aside gang bangs and obvious fetish material, and your mileage may vary regarding anal, but what is left puts the bar at a higher level for what guys want and now expect in bed (or on the couch or in the sauna, kitchen or wherever) such that they think long and hard – pun intended – about laying out cash and enduring shit tests and regal entitlement to get 5 minutes a month of missionary, in the dark, or perhaps a sputtering grudge blow every now and then.
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Women have largely created the situation themselves by the “empowerment” of reliable birth control and the encouragement to be non-judgmentally slutty AND THEN try to lock down a guy for the long term. So guys say “fine”, but if you don’t put out on the third date: NEXT. If you don’t suck my dick: NEXT. If you don’t worship it like it is a fucking national land mark and then let me paste your face like a wolf marking his territory: NEXT. Et cetera, et cetera.
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And if the women balk, then a video of a hottie that adds to the occasional twang of the wire is only a click away.
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Bitch, gold-digger or priss: some guys will tolerate one on an ongoing basis but sorry honey, you don’t get all three. Porn is reinforcing that notion.

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Porn is an almost exclusively Jewish manned tool of both sexual and political violence. If porn is bad for the male psyche, which it is, imagine what it is doing to the minds of young suggestible women who are now watching porn as much as men thanks to the myriad of free streaming sites.

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It’s a normal practise for Israeli soldiers to broadcast pornography on occupied Palestinian TV stations.

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This guy gets it

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Not sure if I agree, Roosh. I was first exposed to porn at around age 11 starting with Playboy magazine, then Penthouse magazine (RIP Bob Guccione Sr. my hero!) but all I can say for me was that it raised my standard for the type of females I’d want to fuck. That, plus being riddiculed and made fun of in school by girls (I was actually good looking but very insecure) so I swore to myself that the only chicks I would ever plug in my life would be 9’s and 10’s. Mind you this meant I passed on tons of opportunities to fuck cute-but-nothing-special girls throughout my life, and my notch count is extremely low, but the few ones I managed to get with are stunning creatures, and after being with just a few of these trophy bitches, women, for me, were pulled off the pedastol.

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He’s talking about modern high def hardcore video porn, not pictures of naked ladies such as Playboy and Penthouse.

An apt comparison is low grade wild grown weed vs. white china heroin. Both ‘drugs,’ but…

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But how is modern days “HD hardcore video porn” different from the naked ladies in Playboy or Penthouse?
How is vintage porn different from the modern one? Does penis look different? May be vagina? Or cumshot?

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1. Video vs still image
2. Penis in orifices vs. just pictures of women
3. With pictures, you tell the story yourself. With video, the story is told for you.

> Vintage porn

You had to go down to the cinema, and watch whatever they chose to put on in a dirty theater surrounded by weirdos. And even that was a huge break from the past. Now, anytime 24/7 you can have it instantly, on any device, many different vids going in different tabs, with unlimited variety available in literally 5 seconds from when you want it. It’s also available to most eight year olds.

It’s absolutely unprecedented.

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Yes, the availability of porn in the modern world is unprecedented. One can get on his Iphone and access it wherever he/she wants it. Many 8 year olds do in fact watch some porn without even knowing what’s going on on the screen.
But I still fail to see how porn can create any kind of a thirst resulting in males LOWERING their standards and selection criteria and dating ugly and obese females.
Porn stars should be a “goal”, unattainable goal for males triggering their desire to work both on themselves and their selection criteria in order to date women of BETTER and definitely not lower quality!

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He goes into it in this article.

Porn stars have sex quickly and easily and will readily do dirty stuff like ass to mouth.

Unless you’re a super-alpha yourself, you won’t find these qualities in any quality, attractive women. You will, however, find them in landwhales, whores, etc.

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I beg to disagree. I do like sex and have a lot of it since I’m a married man. But I ain’t no fan of “dirty stuff” like ass to mouth or anything similar. That may be one of the reasons why I’ve never even been a fan of porn.
Thus I wasn’t looking for the above mentioned qualities in women when I was single but instead was interested in loyalty, honesty, integrity, dignity, mutual understanding and respect coupled with the lack of inhibitions and willingness to have a lot of sex. I took my time and found the lady I WANTED TO BE BY MY SIDE!!!!!!!!
But I never ever thought about paying any attention to landwhales or whores of all kinds! It ain’t that hard, trust me!

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> That may be one of the reasons why I’ve never even been a fan of porn.

But you’ve never been a fan of porn, you’re not really who we’re talking about here, you’re implying you’re not a mental victim of pornography.

As your priorities and and life choices demonstrate. Congratulations for protecting your psyche.

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The negative impact of pornography goes way beyond “Male Thirst”. It has created a generation with very warped and unrealistic expectations regarding normal sexual behavior. Women are more and more into gang bangs, slapping and hair pulling. Men compare themselves to male porn stars and have issues with their size and performance if they’re not the size of a large cucumber that lasts for 90 minutes.

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And how come porn has never impacted me or any other self respecting male individuals who still have guts and brains to have an own opinion, to dare to differ, to lead by example, to stand up and be counted???
Are modern male SO stupid and brainwashed that they can’t realize the difference between themselves and porn stars who perform on steroids, viagras and other supplements??

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Prepare for new UN agenda for entire world. https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/post2015/transformingourworld
“… They seek to realize the human rights of all and to achieve gender equality and the empowerment of all women and girls….”

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Well…. if people are sheeple enough to accept that, then they fully deserve their destiny and all the bullshit like “gender equality, empowerment, sustainable development, affirmative action, quota hiring, feminism etc”.
And I feel NO pity for them!

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Eh I disagree about the quality of women part. It depends on what kind of quality your talking about. If it’s physical quality I think that’s false..Men want to have sex with the same types of women they see on the computer screen which means they’re probably going to go after sexier women. It really depends on the man and his confidence level with game. Watching porn when you have no game can indeed be disastrous, causing you to chase lower quality women due to a combination of desperation and low confidence. I’ve been there. However as my game has grown porn only inspires me to go for higher quality women. Porn actually causes me not to go after women without certain physical traits desirable to me. I guess every man is different.

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Watching porn leads to mental cuckoldry.

After you see dainty little girls getting their pussies pulverized by the largest 10″+ dicks in the world, you’ll think that you can never measure up.

You’ll think that you’re inferior and your brain learns (or gets reinforced) with inferiority complex.

So all you end up doing is watching more porn, afraid that your average-sized cock is not big enough to satisfy a real woman.

Porn also warps the expectations of girls who also end up watching it and start to expect men to have the enormous cocks and stamina of male porn stars.

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If some of those guys penis’s are even really that big. I wonder if they may use props or tricks sometimes.

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Could very well be true.

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Question 1) Do violent video games make people want to be violent?
Question 2) Does watching UFC improve your MMA?
Making a habit of being violent in the real world certainly has its effects, and doing MMA is certainly better practice than just watching it but. . .

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What an honest statement. I have lowered my standards in regard to a girls looks because the very attractive ones are simply too much trouble. I am seeing a girl now I wouldn’t have considered before, but she is clean, keeps herself nice, does my laundry and is kind. But she is not really attractive physically.

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You are a perfect example of what’s wrong with modern males these days.
How damn hard is it to do one’s laundry?? Why do you even need a female for that??
Every normal and self respecting lady absolutely should keep herself clean and nice, that’s a given in any relationship. Same goes for kindness.
Holy fuck modern males are desperate….
Attractive girls ain’t no “much trouble”, they simply require you to be more of a real male than you are.

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Solidarity > Shaming.

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Maybe she’s just being nice, maybe she’s just chilling all day at his place, and want to help out

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Male thirst? Where?