The Manipulated Man

ISBN: 1905177178

“Could it be that strength, intelligence, and imagination are not prerequisites for power but merely qualifications for slavery? Could it be that the world is not being ruled by experts but by beings who are not fit for anything else—by women?”

Esther Vilar argues that the freedom men think they have in selecting a wife and being head of the household is actually slavery, and that working the same job for forty years to support a woman is no different than a child repeatedly playing the same board game. The Manipulated Man is one of those books that reframes your world view (even if you were already on a red pill bent), making you question what value women offer besides their vaginas.

While men pick a career and work 40 years nonstop because they have to, today’s woman treats her career more as a temporary adventure. She’s ultra-serious about it in her 20s but then tosses it overboard for children upon landing a successful husband. I find that Vilar nails the more traditional societies which still exist today in Eastern Europe, particularly Ukraine, and how those crafty women enslave a man through marriage in exchange for popping out a kid and doing a couple hours of housework per day. Keep in mind this book written in the early 70s and referred to a time when the nuclear family was still intact, so she did not predict the degree that Western women would soon enslave themselves in the rat race.

“Theoretically it is possible for a beautiful woman to have less intelligence than a chimpanzee and still be considered an acceptable member of society.”

Vilar argues that for all the liberation that men have given women through inventions like the washing machine and dishwasher, they still choose to spend free time on entertainment over intellectual pursuits. They have no interest in challenging their brains like men voluntarily do. She defines men as animals who work, nothing more. Men work for all their lives while women only work if they have to (if they are ugly or unable to find a husband). In other words, the sign of a damaged or low quality woman is one who doesn’t have the choice to stop working.

“Women’s proven lack of imagination makes clear that they have no a priori need for new inventions. If they did, they would invent things more often themselves.”

For a while now I’ve come to the belief that men need to lead the household and provide for their family to be happy and feel like a man. I want to be proud of being able to take care of a wife and kids. Vilar argues that this pride is no different than a donkey feeling strong as it carries a heavy load.

If the American-style 21st century marriage isn’t working, and the traditional provider marriage exploits men, what should men do? Unfortunately this book doesn’t provide answers, and you start to get the feeling that marriage in all forms is a bad deal for men. Any long-term pact you make with a woman must be carefully weighed. You must ask yourself if you are getting a good return for your labor and time in exchange for vaginal access and a possible heir.

There are a couple things in the book that I disagree with. First, she argues that masculinity and femininity are environmental constructions, sort of like how your typical feminist views gender roles. She thinks there is no genetic component to maleness or femaleness, which can be easily refuted by looking at examples in the animal world. Second, the male archetype she uses in the book is a typical beta male, who is extorted by women without—in many cases—even getting sex in return. One benefit of being a player today is getting low-effort pussy where you get more than you put in. I may be a slave to the pussy but if I’m able to get a constant supply of it and the accompanying sexual pleasure while putting in decreasing amounts of work, is that not a fair deal?

“For man, who was brought up to be proud and honorable, every working day is merely an endless series of humiliations. He shows enthusiasm for products he finds useless, he laughs at jokes he finds tasteless, he expresses opinions which are not his own. Not for a moment is he allowed to forget that the merest oversight may mean demotion, that one slip of the tongue may spell the end of his career.”

I’ve never had a book that made me reconsider so many of my beliefs like this one. It ended up being the most vicious takedown of the female gender that I’ve ever read, five times harsher than anything I’ve written. My mind was buzzing while reading, hungry for a fresh take on the male-female issue. If you still have the problem of respecting women, this book will fix you right up. Not only will you avoid getting entrapped by a woman, but you’ll have a better understanding of what causes their seemingly irrational behavior. Highly recommended.

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Females are a metaphor for society and it’s treatment of the male.

Since females are the vehicle through which culture is visibly manifest, they are a good indicator of the culture’s values.

My personal experience is that the harder you work, the better person you are, the more moral you are, etc. the more people think of you as a chump and overtly disrespect you. Females merely mirror this to us personally and quite often consciously.

Screw them both, literally and figuratively, go Galt.

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If you like this book, you will probably also enjoy “The Anatomy of Female Power,” which has essentially the same message. It’s well argued and written by a man. Basically, we don’t live in a patriarchy but in a matriarchy, where feminine women, who are raised to be narcissistic yet are more emotionally mature, bring up boys with macho ideals, so that they are easily controlled.

The author is not very data-driven, but his arguments with anecdotes and quotes are convincing.

You can download a free PDF copy of the book somewhere online. I would be interested in reading your review.

This notion that men are dumb brutes that should be managed is also hinted at in this Nietzsche quote: “Stupid as a man, say the women. Cowardly as woman, say the men. Stupidity in a woman is unwomanly.”

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I agree with everything esther vilar reported in his book, thanks to her, I would never get married, I think “killing” at work while the woman stays at home alone?

After I read her book, the reproductive organ of them has to be given to the best male in a natural way and not being sold.

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It is funny though. White males actually do run the world and we do live in a patriarchy. The white males running the world are a subset in the power structure and in higher or at least supervisory status positions. They control the lower white males and everyone else through the various noxious influences: race entitlements, female entitlements, culture, religion, schooling, expectations, etc. Females are merely a tool of the white elite in this regard.

Since we are soldiers in a guerrilla war, we fight on our own soil. As was learned in Vietnam, you can never defeat a resident enemy. We win as we fight (game) in our own bombed and ruined territory (society) because we know it intimately (red-pill).

By living off the land and doing as little work as possible and still getting what we need and want we will win the war of attrition.

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You mean the Js?

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Technology has largely replaced men, but it may one day replace women. What happens when you’ve got artificial wombs, robot child care, and sexbots. Do you really need women anymore?

I don’t think the desire for real human companionship will ever go away, but those not good enough to be decent humans will be replaced by machines.

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It took me nearly two decades of marriage to figure out that I had been duped into this regime of work for the woman and provide for her offspring. She was for nearly 30 years, first, a hardly-working-wife, then a stay-at-home mom. She fills her days with entertainment — reading garbage fiction, stalking Facebook, surfing the web, and doing fewer household chores than I. Talk about lack of imagination and desire to acquire any useful skills, knowledge or experience, she refuses to use the time and resources available to her to supplement the family income, although things have been excruciatingly tight since the market crash of 2008. It was my wife that educated me to the absolute selfishness of American women and how they perceive the role of the modern Western male.

Well, in the Spirit of Ayn Rand and Atlas Shrugged, I’ve gone on strike. I’ve stopped providing the “lifestyle to which she grew accustomed.” I refuse to work the 60-70 hour work weeks I used to as a software consultant, always traveling, away from home, the kids, and all the things I slaved so hard for. I’ve let our income dwindle down to mere subsistence levels, so that when I divorce, she’ll receive zero alimony. I’ve had to take the last five years of my life “off” from active, productive pursuits to match her level of income, lifestyle and productivity so as not to be enslaved by the family court system to pay her a sizable stipend for the rest of her life for continuing to do nothing. In the meantime, I’ve had to delay filing for patents, starting up new businesses, making new investments, etc. to prevent my level of living from enslaving me into the future.

Fortunately, I’m near the end of enslavement. The last of my children is nearly 18. I’m poor, broke and bankrupt. I can now break the chains of marriage and do so without being trapped as so many men are by a lifetime of spousal and child support. Unlike my wife, who frittered away years of opportunity and will have no options other to work as a wage slave after divorce, I have more opportunity to achieve and accomplish than ever before. I’ll be a great success — albeit single. She’ll have to find contentment at minimum wage, old, and alone.

So, you young men out there reading this, hear what I have to say. “DON’T MARRY.” It will be the worst decision of your life. And, if you must be fulfilled by having children, then do so outside the bonds (chains) of the marriage contract. I say you’re better off single without kids, than to even have the love and respect of well-raised children in this modern day western society.

PM (JR)

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Way ahead of her time.

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Harsh is putting it lightly. This book is brutal. Required reading if you believe providing for a family will bring you the most happiness. Don’t be another slave.

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I didn’t read the book, but it seems overly exaggerated. I mean, the traditional organization is the only one that worked so far for a society to mantain and advance itself.
The man works his ass outside and the woman take care of the house, children and husband. It’s the natural state of things, men going to have some privileges like taking important decisions, women others like extended leisure time. Counting “bits of fairness” between men and women seems pointless.

I know you probably don’t agree to what I’m going to say now, but as I tought before searching she is a…

“Vilar’s parents were German-Jewish emigrants.”

…jew. All books writen by jews claim for the colapse of traditional society like Karl Marx or the most famous feminists, they are extremist and intolerant in a way the white men or the black men find hard to emulate.
My 2 cents.

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Late to discussion, but for other latecomers:

Yes, the traditional roles maintained and advanced society, but modern housewives benefit from the efficiencies developed over the last century.

Housewives aren’t busting ass anymore, managing a household is a lot easier. They stopped having 10 kids, they don’t hand wash laundry and dishes anymore. Not cooking 3 meals a day, they don’t cook from scratch, if at all. Houses are much less dirty (airtight, less kids), no mopping/dusting daily. They don’t tend a vegetable garden. Kids are away at school for the day.

Scheduling playdates (really just an excuse to visit her friends), attending kids school activities…prior generations of housewives didn’t have time for that. Not even kids did, they were put to work as they were able. There was always work to be done. Mothering used to be a 24/7 job, and women were valued for it.

Now contrast that with men, and working women, essentially still working from sunup to sundown. A minimum of 8 hours at work, 1 hour working lunch, 1 hour commute both to/from. An 11 hour workday minimum, 12-16 hours for many.

Modern housewives have more leisure time than any population in history. They now have the time to indulge themselves, and cause trouble for the world. “Idle hands are the devils workshop.” It was rich women of the leisure class that started the suffrage movement to occupy their time with the business of politics. Lower-class Lucy didn’t have time for that. She was too busy to have interest in suffrage. Busy people don’t have the time/energy to worry themselves with outside matters.

Now with middle-class Mary, always aspiring to be someone other than herself, she’s increasingly redefining the role of women to suit her temporary goals. She’s why we’re losing the traditional roles of man/women, husband/wife. In prior generations men didn’t want trophy wifes, they wanted home managers; women were strong while still being feminine. These were the women who stirred our emotions w/their womanliness, instead of debasing themselves to stir our loins as the narcissistic, attention-seeking whores of today do.

Look where this decline in gender roles has taken us. Women previously understood and accepted the quid pro quo of traditional male/female roles. Society formed structures to support those roles, that’s why women could only get certain jobs…the ones reserved for spinsters and young girls yet to marry. Workplaces knew women were temporary workers, so the type of jobs available to them accomodated low skill, high turnover.

Now that women have taken their version of a red-pill, they’ve delayed having children/marriage so they can be decadent. The problem with this is since they’re not committed to being lifelong bachelorettes, they jump in/out of the workforce and marriage at will. Society isn’t structured to accomodate their behavior so it results in turmoil. Whether family man or bachelor, men always work. Their consistency creates structure, not turmoil. This is why feminism is destroying the world. It advocates for women to lead inconsistent lives without the inherent penalties of that lifestyle.

Getting back to modern housewives. They red-pilled themselves by delaying marriage/kids, and modern efficiencies let them continue to pursue decadence by exploiting their role as supposedly busy housewives. So not only don’t they have to work, they have a significant portion of their husbands money. What reasonably smart person wouldn’t pass up this free ride. However, it becomes a societal problem once housewives decide they want all their husbands money and divorce him to get it. Now that men have wisened-up, as more take the red-pill the backbone of society (marriage) is gone.

As long as men are willing to marry, women can enrich themselves with each successive marriage and divorce. Women no longer have to repeatedly put husbands in the grave to get their money. It’s much easier and quicker to divorce them.

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Just purchased on Kindle for $5.79. Since I’m in a LTR and we’re getting serious I thought it wise that I should read this novel to comprehend what I could be getting myself in to.

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And that’s why as men, the absolute best thing we can do for ourselves is to figure out what we really want out of life, and go after it. Understand the dynamics behind the innate behaviors of women and society in order to navigate your life in an orderly fashion, but silently be pursuing some thing behind the scenes that is meaningful to you, so that when you’re on your deathbed years from now you can say to yourself silently, “I had a great fucking life”. Too many people life unhealthy and unhappy lives riddling themselves in insignificant matters that only stress them out. Much of this includes interpersonal relations with the opposite sex understandably, but it is foolish.

With women recently becoming independent and providing for themselves, men are no longer expected to provide for a family by society. We have been freed in a sense to pursue interests that are solely our own and take much bigger risks. We can now build a harem of women and not commit our life and resources to them if children are not produced. Most men are now confused of this freedom and are afraid, still longing for the family life. In the end, that’s what they want and take a conscious decision in that.

That book the manipulated man is outdated. Somebody should write a new book and call it The Free Man

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Roosh,

I can’t believe you haven’t read Vilar’s book until recently. Come on, man! It’s a classic. I still remember my social science professor in Junior High School telling the whole class (boys and girls) about this book openly. If I remeber well I was 14. Anyway, let me recommend you another Vilar’s book: ‘The Polygamous Sex: A right every man has to have at least two wives’. In this book Vilar argues that a man can only love a woman for two reasons: Either she is his sons’ mother or she is his lover.
Since:
A woman has troubles being the two things at the same time, while
Two or more women have no problem sharing a man, as long as their perspectives about that man are fullfiled, while
A man can have a relationship with more than one woman at the same time.
So, every man should have at least two ‘wives’, one to play the homemaker, one to play the mistress.
The book is out of print since 1978, but you can find copies for sale.

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“I still remember my social science professor in Junior High School telling the whole class (boys and girls) about this book openly. If I remeber well I was 14. ”

That book was discussed in a public school in the USA? Fuck, how times have changed. I gaurentee that any student or teacher for that matter who had mere posession of the book on school grounds would be arrested today.

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Would be killed, more like it.

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“With women recently becoming independent and providing for themselves, men are no longer expected to provide for a family by society.”

Unfortunately this is not true.

High value woman will do anything not to date a lower value man.Anything. That’s how it works folks.

If there was any validity in this feminism bullshit they would be constantly advocating what I call ‘hypergamy 2.0’. In other words, men get to date women of higher value (whether that value comes from luck is earnt doesn’t matter) but of course that is not part of the female agenda.They have it too good and they know it. After all if a horse faced trollope like Carrie Bradshaw got her ‘alpha male’ then so should they!

This is a great tragedy in my view, There are plenty of examples of great men that married wealthy women (Karl Jung, Karl Heinz Stockhauesen etc) whose position then enabled them to achieve great things for society. We are losing this resource. What did women ever achieve for society by marrying a wealthier man?

I also think hypergamy 2.0 is becoming harder because of the insistent pressure put upon women to try and value filter their way to a higher value man or end up childless. It’s also harder because the type of qualities that woman are encouraged to value are being encouraged away from finding a ‘good man’ towards finding a wealthy beta who they can-worst case scenario- use the law to screw over should it all go wrong.

ABC (Always Be Cadding)

ps and dont forget Bounding too.

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Intellectual contraception. A donkey who discovers it’s a slave is still a donkey, but now one with no point to it’s life.

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A person with your moniker talking about donkeys…classic.

Also, good point.

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I rescind my “good point”. That statement is inaccurate because there’s joy in truth and options.

Once the donkey knows the truth, it can choose to stop being a beast of burden and have no point to it’s life; or, it can choose to let the point of it’s life be a beast of burden. Being awakened to it’s circumstances allows the donkey to practice mindfulness.

So whether the donkey chooses to do nothing or something, it’s the choosing of its path that bring it joy and gives it purpose. That’s mindfulness…living consciously.

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” We can now build a harem of women and not commit our life ”

Good luck with that.

People, you can’t have your cake and eat it too. Women aren’t stupid. They put out for commitment. If we refuse to give it, they’ll put out for cash.

Do you guys want that? Either way it’ss slavery. As long as you fellas have libido, you’ll be paying for sex. That’s how it works, in any society on earth.

And those guys with “harems” are the most enslaved of them all. They have to put up with shit from several women at the same time.
Or the ‘sneaky fucker’ lifestyle you guys aspire to. Yes it can be nice, but you have to engineer your whole lifestyle, job, friends and location to get the most amount of pussy, and need to move constantly to get the best deals. How is that not slavery?

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Except now there’s a cultural shift happening with todays youth. Female empowerment has permeated media to such a large degree that young males are growing up unshackled to the beliefs of provider/protector that we did. TV is teaching both sexes that women are supposed to be powerful, capable, wage earners, independent…and attention-seeking whores; and that men are inept, fun-seeking boys who are unable to care for themselves.

Teen boys of today also don’t have ideas of a feminine mystique ’cause teen girls are throwing themselves at them. A recent study concluded teen girls are texting nude pics to boys because all the other girls are doing it…they have to send them in order to compete for boys attention. Police investigations into child porn (kids sexting) reveal that cops would have to arrest nearly every kid in school because most have nude pics of other students on their phones.

Teens/young women have become so aggressive that they’re routinely inviting and paying for dates. Also, boys are calling girls and asking to be taken out with the assumption the girl will pay.

So teen boys are having their cake and eating it too, because feminists are stupid. Their shortsightedness has young girls putting out, not for commitment or cash, but for attention/approval.

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So I’ve started reading the book. Let’s say that this book is like taking a red pill the size of a watermelon and trying to stuff it down your throat.

I’m going to rant now: if men in America whittle away their time doing mostly frivolous, repetitive work (I’m not excluded from this), for the purpose of sticking your penis in a vagina, then goddammit make it as pleasurable as possible. But the fact that most boys are circumcised involuntarily, I mean at birth, thereby depriving the man of so much more visceral sexual pleasure, is a fucking boot to the mouth. Anybody else pissed off about this?

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another good read which utterly shreds the modern woman:

http://fatherfigurevideo.com/garbage-generation-by-daniel-amneus.pdf

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And this was written by a WOMAN?!?

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This book in itself deserves the single page review you gave it, and thank you. Manipulated Man is the holy bible for men. All critcism and observations of female behavior come back to the wisdom of one, Ms. Esther Vilar, God bless her! That men have always been played for chumps by women is the closest guarded secret of Humanity.

I strongly suspect that Vilar’s book will be banned at some point given the fact that the United States has now become socialist dictatorship, with their ability to turn other nations into socialist dictatorships as well. I highly recommend you get your copy now.

Eso libro también esta disponible bajo el titulo “El Varón domado” hace un busca por google.

Sie können auch dieser Buch auf Deutsch zu finden unter die Titel “Der Dressierte Mann” suchen Sie bitte beim google.

Manipulated Man was originally written in German, but her assertions about women apply to all females worldwide. She stated that American women are no worse than other women, simply they are further down the road of manipulative behaviors then their foreign counterparts. But have you noticed now with the internet, smartphones and social media just how fast females from non american cultures are catching up?

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@ 19
Yes, it was written by a woman, go figure!

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Hey roosh, you should also read ‘The Anatomy of Female Power’, another book that is along similar lines. It’s pretty insightful, written by a Nigerian in the 80s. He taught as a professor in the SF Bay Area for a while.

http://therawness.com/anatomy-of-female-power-download-and-discussion-page/

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‘People, you can’t have your cake and eat it too. Women aren’t stupid. They put out for commitment.’

No.

Women DON’T put out for commitment. The one trick they always try when they want a guy in ‘commitment mode’ is to NOT give him sex or make him work fucking hard for it. That’s what little Johnny Beta fails to understand.

Be the bit of fun guy. Be the cad. Be the joker. Be the player. Be the asshole. Be the alpha male they got lucky to be with. Be the guy they met on holiday. Be the anecdote of the guy they fucked in a weird situation or whatever. Be any of these things and more.

But do not be the potential ‘nice guy beta provider’ slaving over their every word just like the rest of the chumps. It doesn’t work.

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Be the guy who keeps wasting women for the rest of men who don’t want to organise their lives around pussy.

Thanks a lot.

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Be the guy who keeps unnecessarily putting women on a pedestal (while never getting respect for it) so it makes screwing them or having a balanced relationship with them that bit harder for anyone else.

Thanks a lot.

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Don’t be Mr. Right, just be Mr. Right Now

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You can download the ebook from here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?dsa2ccbp75g1amw

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BTW, the legendary 1975 Esther Vilar versus Alice Schwarzer debate is available online:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTarwRJEzCs

No English subtitles, unfortunately. Still, you don’t need to understand German to feel the tension between these two. Cutthroat, indeed.

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Todd I definitely agree with you. It will probably take a generation before guys start to take advantage of our “new world”. In the meantime, guys who are fast to adapt will reap the rewards.

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A boy becomes a MAN the day he understand’s Woman (as a group) true nature. That’s the day he realizes women are no more than overgrown children and their unaccountable opinions shouldn’t be taken any less seriously than the declarations of a snot-nosed 5-year old child. A man should not come to this understanding with bitterness in his heart, but with his god-given logical male brain.

Measure your manhood by how well you can dominate and control your woman (who you should demand submission from) and nothing else.

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another funny comment on the book is here

http://manboobz.blogspot.pt/2010/11/esther-vilar-crazy-catty-lady.html

here’ s a quote:

” Theoretically it is possible for a beautiful woman to have less intelligence than a chimpanzee and still be considered an acceptable member of society. “

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A lot of the ‘women were so oppressed in the past’ crowd seem to have forgotten that through all of history men were forced to fight and die in wars while they were at home, playing with children, cooking and cleaning.

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Roosh i’m a BIG fan. in fact i regularly recommend your page to blue pill losers and up and coming “baby playas”.

but as i get older (35) there is one thing i’m beginning to realize about the MRA and PUA community. both sides are hyper focused on the negative side affects of feminism and traditional millennial old family and societal structures.

what we are experiencing now is NOT new. it’s ALWAYS been this way between men and women. the only difference (in the America and to a lesser extent the west) is that dumb ass simps and “enlightened men” have reformed society and laws in such a way that the inferior and weaker in every way women are able to sway the balance of power in their favor IF they are cunning and crafty enough to do so.

as bad as the game of life seems for men, it’s 10 times worse for women! we are just a generation of men who are becoming aware of the the fact that we forgot that men are indeed the more creative, inspired, productive, and powerful sex. and now that realization is understood; we’re trying to figure out how we came to live in a state of pure subjugation to females.

sure previous generations of men were slaves to the pussy and a pretty face. but they understood that a woman [and family] was and IS an ACCESSORY to a man existence not the focus and reason for a mans existence.

men build civilizations, we create, we engineer, we debate and enlighten our minds, we war, we inquire, WE ARE MEN! women have always been and always will be vessels to further the greater pursuit of men – via birthing future men, and future incubators and help-mates for men.

being temporarily distracted by a pretty face or good pussy is one of the delights and pleasures of good living. it’s NOT the sole purpose of living… not for a man who is about his “business”.

the reason we modern men are floundering in our relations with women and society as a whole is because we have been fed BS by our supposedly “enlightened” fathers (if you were lucky enough to have one) and ignorant herd following mothers.

you can’t fault women for being what they are. women like Esther Vilar are the ultra rare exception NOT the norm. ALL women (including Esther) are emotional/instinct driven, hypergamous animals merely following their biological imperative. we MEN are barely a step better, BUT we are the introspective sex. we are the thinkers and analyzers. which by default gives us the advantage and biological wherewithal to lead, dominate and CONTROL women.

the society we live in now is merely a result of the majority of men giving up their natural “birth right” in life.

that’s why “alphas” [that definition is far to obtuse to fully define what a real man is and should be] don’t give a damn about to woman to worry about what she wants, likes, or expects of him. she’s on HIS bus! do you ask your car if it wants to take you where you want to go? do you ask your car if it feels like being reliable when you have to depend on it? NO you buy one you like, and use it accordingly till it’s of no use to you. THEN YOU GET A NEW ONE. women are the same way! they NEED to be used and they KNOW their purpose!

that’s why women act the way they do. it’s why they give you “shit test” they are testing you. they are following their biological imperative. they KNOW they exist to be fucked and have babies. and if they happen to be a good stroke to your ego and not get on your nerves, you’ll also reward them with commitment and affection. just like that favorite car of yours – the one you fill with good gas, wash and wax every Saturday, and keep immaculately maintained.

KNOW YOUR ROLE! stop whining about the weaker, dumber, non producing species known as woman. she is your inferior in just about every way that matters for survival. SHE NEEDS YOU not vice versa.

stop being a slave to the pussy and command the pussy – that’s a minor part of what real MEN do and have always done.

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Too bad i never bumped into you Roosh on the Metro while i was reading my copy. Great comments, all.

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I suggest all men who hates women to just get over it and become gay.

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Thanks for sending me your selfie. OMG gurl….ur like…. so HAWT!!!!!

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Dani, I’d rather hate CUNTS like you, and keep loving the women in my sex life who now what it means to be a woman. So, why don’t you go gay for your lesbo feminist buddies and spare some brainwashed male fag from spending his paycheck and emotions on a mindless yapping CUNT named Dani

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I honestly don’t think we can ever deny our nature.
It’s our nature as men to provide and for women to nurture.
If it really is a problem for most of us to find that balance, then i would say why fight it?

If it really bothers everyone that as men, we have to go out and work 60+ hours a week. Then your best bet is to pick an area that you’re truly passionate about and make it your life purpose.

Working in a deadbeat job and blaming society of your position is a cop out. I would say sort your life out first before taking on the challenge to look after a woman.

Going the ‘freedom from women’ route is simply not the answer.

Understand how they work by all means, but use it to guide you along nature’s order and walk on.

That’s my opinion.

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It’s not the work that is the issue; it’s the low rate of return for that work. Why work for so long, to gain so little?

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Well said Lachstar. It’s all because of this kind of (Onder) Manginas the real Men suffer.

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It’s not the work that is the issue; it’s the low rate of return for that work. Why work for so long, to gain so little?

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Hey Onder, you’re obviously confused about what it means to be a man. Being a woman’s pack mule and beast of burden isn’t gonna impress anybody except your own ego and society-brainwashed view of masculinity.

I can work a job and take care of all my needs including the sexual ones, without ever “providing” anything to a vagina except my penis and male authority. The size of my wallet never enters the picture you fool.

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“Be the guy who keeps wasting women for the rest of men who don’t want to organise their lives around pussy.”

You’ve put the cart before the horse.
That the women are already damaged is what allows for them to be played.

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Puffy, you only have to look at the animal kingdom to know where we stand. After all, we’re no different to any other animal on the planet.

Game is simply a reaction to current state of affairs in society, not human nature.

I’m not saying i disagree with it, as i’m all for obtaining sexual pleasure.

Just stating what is obvious. Disregarding theories and logic, it is what it is.

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I also want to point out something crucial which has yet to be highlighted.

There’s a difference between a man working ‘for a purpose’ and working to supplicate to his wife.

If you look at any great leader in history, i would argue neither of them did what they did in order to gain admiration from women.

They did it purely because it was something they were drawn to and had an ambition to achieve that was far greater than themselves…

It’s this that women are really attracted to… Not money, but a man’s sense of drive and direction or in other words, to confidently ‘go out and get the job done’.

The only way a woman can ever know this is via material possessions and status, which often gets confused for money.

A woman in that sense, simply comes on board and follows this man while he’s fulfilling his purpose. And it’s in no way connected to his need for female validation. But of personal fulfillment.

This is crucial to understand as many of us seem to misunderstand what our roles are really about.

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“I’ve never had a book that made me reconsider so many of my beliefs like this one”. Are serious roosh? I thought you said that “you shouldn’t listen to a woman about anything?” Does this mean there are exceptions to the rule? Or do you decide to listen when a woman makes an argument that you like?

There is an inconsistency with your thinking and past arguments here.

What I find hilarious about this is that the woman who wrote this was born in Argentina. One of the most hated of all female nationalities by Roosh (excluding Danes and Americans).

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Years ago I read the book. For me, I have understand what I had to do in the future. Took me out of the rat race as soon as possible. Stopped supporting this society were only woman’s benefit the of mans hard work. Look in the governments administration buildings. 90% woman’s working there, doing a no-brainer job. I stopped putting in my taxes from my earned money in this system. (stopped working) So I don’t support this system, designed for only benefit woman the most. I work now only for myself and try to have less taxes as possible to give to the government(woman).

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1. I plugged into the Manosphere

2. I listened to Tom Leykis

3. I read “The Manipulated Man”

Result: I find it hard to take any woman seriously. In fact the only women I take seriously are childless career gals in their 40s.

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As recently as 30 years ago it was rather difficult to live comfortably alone and work full time. Even grocery shopping was a pain; full selection super markets weren’t widespread and hours were limited. A woman was a major boost to your lifestyle and diet.

Now we got 24/7 grocery stores and internet ordering. We got cheap by-the-pound laundry service and dry-cleaners run by illegals, and cheap illegal immigant maid house cleaning services. I barely lift a finger at home as a single man, and this would not have been possible in the recent past.

So technology has obviated most of the benfit of having a woman at home for a man. And most women these days are pretty useless anyway. I cook and clean better than any of them.

But I have to wonder about the past. I mean I stumble across pictures like this:

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I also recently saw a 1960s picture of a very cute african woman coming home with a basket full of tortoises she had gathered.

Can you imagine coming home to a nice bowl of rabbit or tortoise stew that your woman hunted down and cooked for you?! It’s almost absurd to think about a woman doing real useful work like that now. I’m sure they’re still capable of real work like that but there’s just no place for it. Just like I don’t need a woman to keep my clothing or apartment clean because it’s peanuts to take care of that on my own.

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Great post, fantastic comments, and it doesn’t surprised me the one mindless, stupid comment was from a woman, “Dani.” What was that someone said about viewing them as children?

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You’re forgetting something BIGTIME….

We used to have an agricultural society. My grandparents were farmers. My grandmother was in charge of the egg collecting/all things animals, while my grandfather was doing the wheat and corn. You know the whole, woman grabs chicken by neck and snaps, or woman grabs sheep balls with teeth and pulls?

To say they did not do equal amounts work is ridiculous. One could even make the argument that it sucked being 6 months pregnant and still having to chop up pigs.

1950s America is a complete Historical Anomaly. People had it good, and some women had it very good (although my grandparents in the 50s were still farmers…my other grandmother was a 1950s housewife, but there was no other choice for her as she died young of terrible cancer)

I don’t think it’s fair to say that women and marriage are worthless because right now our society is going through Drastic changes and who knows where any of this will end up?

And to be honest, this argument is dangerous. Because it basically says “Anyone who doesn’t invent something is worthless”….Well guess what…That’s pretty much all of us. Only 1% of men can invent something worthwhile, and maybe only 10% of men total are really good workers.

The stay at home mom’s that I know who are annoying…it’s not like their husbands are anything great…Just salesman?

Is a salesman worth more than a housewife who is amazing with 3+ kids?

Sorry but homeschooling housewife > salesman

Most men aren’t that high up on the food chain either.

It’s just men, due to IQ sd and testosterone, have more outliers who are truly truly amazing.

But the average guy is no better than the average woman.

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Here is a newly corrected and nicely formatted PDF version of Vilar’s _The Manipulated Man_ , incorporating her updated introduction of 1998 (which she did not see any need to change for the 2009 edition). Vilar made only the most insignificant changes to the body of the book in each version, so it really doesn’t matter which one you read. Might as well read the 1998 or 2009 one with the updated intro.

(I uploaded this to 2Shared a while ago but I discovered quite a few errors had slipped past me so this one is newer and better eh)

http://www.2shared.com/document/FNyulwEI/Esther_Vilar_-_The_Manipulated.html

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Hey Female Cat.

Read the book, we are handsome, emotional, creative creatures.

You lack emotion, imagination and drive.

Go into a diesel workshop and see if you could fix a motor you peace of shit.