The Men’s Rights Movement Is Dead

Three years ago I wrote a post titled “Men’s Rights Has Become A Euphemism For Sexual Loser.” I argued that the movement is made up of manginas who refuse to improve themselves. Afterwards, a part of me felt regret for blasting them. After all, we’re all on the same team, in search of happiness in an increasingly male hostile world.

So I reached out to them. I commented on their blogs. I tweeted their posts. I endured their temper tantrums about how game “doesn’t work” or is “only for sluts.” I held out hope that they would self-organize and smash feminism in the face. But nothing happened. There was no action, no “movement” to speak of. In that time they only had one victory to boast about: the removal of a Huggies commercial that was deemed offensive to dads. The sad part is that the anti-diaper activism happened outside of the MRA sphere. They couldn’t even claim it was their work. They were the reporters who arrived late to the crime scene trying to pretend they still had the exclusive scoop, but the viewers at home weren’t fooled.

The biggest problem with MRAs is that they are not activists. They are pamphleteers. They believe knowledge alone will solve the ills of the world. They believe that merely reading about how men are getting shafted will improve the status quo. They believe that one-thousand of them typing away and producing ten-thousand blog posts will change society. Men will spontaneously rise up! They will fight the matriarchy! But they haven’t, and they never will. Their movement hasn’t produced any results, only little online playgrounds where sad boys can sit in the sandbox and helplessly watch girls play with the cocky boys who understand the rules of the game.

I looked in the dictionary for the definition of activist: “the policy or action of using vigorous campaigning to bring about political or social change.” What political or social change have the men’s rights pamphleteers brought? Say MRP in one syllable. That’s the sound they make every time they sit down and hit publish on another one of their turd rants, giddy at the prospect of changing the world when a cup of strong coffee accomplishes more change to their actual turds. They are not read by the influencers of our society. They don’t have the ears of politicians, professors, or journalists. They get the occasional snarky mention from Jezebel and think they’re accomplishing something when they’re actually being used as nothing more than fodder for female bemusement or page views that help make Nick Denton richer. Even the feminists, their supposed mortal enemy, refuse to debate them on equal footing.

There are 684 woman’s studies programs in the United States. How many men’s rights programs have the MRPs helped instate? Zero. How many pro-man laws have been passed thanks to the work of the MRP? None. How many real victories can they claim? Not one. The entire men’s rights non-movement can be boiled down to one middle-aged man named Paul Elam who is carrying the weight of a thousand pamphleteers on his suffering shoulders. That’s not activism, that’s following one dude’s blog. The difference they think they’re making by cheering the public outing of false rape accusers or “male shamers” is the same difference my sister makes when she reads an article in Cosmo.

I’ve made dozens of posts complaining of American women and feminism. I’ve read a thousand articles on the internet about how they are ruining society. Aren’t I just like the MRPs? Aren’t I just another professional whiner like them? There’s a difference:

I take personal action and encourage other men to do the same.

At the same time I was complaining that American girls are fat, I was blasting inside Polish girls with perfect bodies. I tell men how to sleep with such women.

At the same time I was whining about divorce rape, I was dating a Ukrainian girl who treated me like a king. I tell other men where to find women like her.

At the same time I complain that the American economy is in trouble, I was completing another book I knew my readers would like so that I could increase my income. I provide men with a forum that contains a lifestyle section to discuss money-making tips.

At the same time I was ranting against the Skrillex haircut, I was banging a Lithuanian girl whose hair belonged in a Vidal Sassoon shampoo commercial. I tell men how feminine women are like.

Instead of taking real action with their lives, MRPs are hoping the government will one day serve their interests and give them things that me and my readers are achieving on their own. I don’t need the government to pass laws against alimony. I simply won’t marry in the USA. I don’t need the government to pass laws promoting fair child custody laws. I won’t impregnate an America girl. I don’t need the government to increase punishment for false rape accusers. I’ll cover my own back. I don’t need the government to ban trans fat to lower the weight of the population. I’ll go to Poland. While they try to change the minds and culture of 310 million Americans with their WordPress blogs, I’ll be hitting on pretty girls in a Croatian bar. I’ll be living the life that I want instead of being entitled and waiting for the government to give it to me. In the same breath they call me a pussy beggar, they beg the government for protection from pussy.

Last time I checked, the government is not forcing me to interact with American girls. They are not forcing me to live in Washington DC. I can improve my station any way I want. The reason is because I’m from the motherfucking United States of America. If I can’t figure out how to improve my appearance, learn some game, make some money from an internet side business, travel abroad to fuck women, and find happiness in the world, then no one can. I don’t need the American government to look after my interests, because I can chase after my own. Instead of listening to Paul Elam tell me that men are getting fucked, I will step out of the house and find a girl who wants to get fucked by me.

Anything that a MRP wants right now can be achieved somewhere in the world. You don’t need the government to provide it for you—simply get on an airplane and make it yours. But they rather sob silently in the closet with a box of tissues while watching women get their pussies demolished by men who have learned skills they are are too scared or lazy to even attempt. Just like how fat women use the euphemism “healthy body weight” as a rationalization to be obese, MRPs use their illusionary movement as an excuse to sit on their ass and be a loser at life.

I know you are entertained by my occasional anti-feminist rants because I read your comments. I see my stat counter spike up whenever I take a hot steaming shit directly in a feminist’s mouth, but I also get dozens of emails every month from guys who thank me for helping them. They are getting more out of what they want in life because they are acting on the advice I’m sharing. Instead of complaining about the state of society and shooting loads of ecstasy all over the men’s rights subreddit, they are making changes to their life to grab that pizza slice of happiness that is undoubtedly easier for an American citizen privileged to be born in the most prosperous country the world has ever seen. The MRPs are wasting this economical advantage by spending all their time reading blogs by guys who have no idea how to help men achieve their goals.

I want to say I’m saddened that MRAs and myself are unable to co-exist, but really I’m not. They add no value to my life and give me no answers on how to navigate the modern world. They were faced with a choice: spend all their free time on blogs or approach a god damn woman. They picked the former. For that I have no respect for them. The storm has arrived and they are the dead weight that must be quickly tossed overboard to prevent the boat from capsizing.

The only true regret I have is that as part of the “manosphere” I’m automatically grouped in with those guys, who are even bigger losers than I could have imagined three years ago. By saying that I know they will hate me now more than ever. They will say I’m using “shaming language” and that I’m hurting their feelings, but they should thank me for this righteous shame because it’s the only way they will see the dead-end road they have taken. From the bottom of my dark heart I want to give them a piece of advice that I sincerely hope they take: before you decide to change the world, try changing your own life first.

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LittlePDog (Starting Young and Aiming High)
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You just said what every other game blogger knew deep down but was too scared to say. Did anybody really expect a “movement” predominated by divorced raped emasculated 40 something chodes to succeed in making women succumb to their wishes?

Ben
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You’re way off base here. Contradictory and off base.

That’s coming from a true fan too.

Anonymous
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Solid. Keep doing work Roosh, you give the rest of man kind hope.

Doug
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This the most motivating site I’ve ever read.

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I agree with Roosh. His point was made when Paul Elam very directly attempted to pick a fight with Heartiste/Roissy. Paul Elam would rather see us all miserable and open to revolution than attempting to find happiness where we can. Happy men are unlikely to join anyone’s cause…or send them donations.

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It’s true.
This is a lesson which i learned the hard way. Granted, it’s good to recognize the shit and unfair aspects of life. But there will ultimately come a point where you just have to learn to play the system and make it work for you and not against you.
My dad mentions this all the time. The system isn’t fair, so either learn the rules and milk it for what it’s worth, or stay where you are…
It’s that simple..

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It’s not over until the woman with the “healthy body weight” sings.

LittlePDog (Starting Young and Aiming High)
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Question Roosh: did something happen to instigate this post or was this bubbling under the surface for a while now?

[Roosh: Bubbling like an upset stomach.]

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I do agree with you that the MRA have a lack of activism. Their posts are a lot of times full of whining and complaining. There is plenty of circle jerking in the comments. And finally, very little call to action even when one is warranted.

But it also seems that they are improving. There is a lot more outside activity, mainly with awareness and recruitment.

And there are gorps like SAVE and The False Rape Society that seem to be doing work.

At the same time, what you are doing is not really activism either. The examples you gave are simply you running away. You tell other men how to do it, but that is still just moving men around the globe.
No actual political change is happening for the men’s rights, but feminism is spreading. Men like us can run to South America or Eastern Europe now, but what about the next generation? They will need to go to Africa to get what they want? And then, what’s next?

In the end though, the manosphere inherently has two parts: the PUA and the MRA. Both parts are needed. The PUA community is meant to teach men to be men, to have masculinity. The MRA community is supposed to fight for mens civil rights.
You must realize that a man can have all the rights and privileges he want’s but still be a total pussy. At the same time, a man could be the biggest Alpha he can, but still be sent to jail if he has no rights as a human.

Both PUA and MRA are needed, and both need to be more active and expand.

[Roosh: The argument you’re using for MRAs is that we should worry about the unborn and how the world will be after we’re long gone? Read the last sentence of my post again.]

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Si. It’s like voting in those who pass such garbage as Obamacare and then turning around and complaining it’s anti-male. Then falsely labeling others as hypocrites for not speaking up about it.

You vote in those that pass this crap, know they are anti-male as hell, that they manipulate women in a so called “war” against them, and then label others for not talking about it? Seems to me they are the real hypocrites.

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@Ben could you explain what you mean?

This has to be my favourite post. I really cant stand mras.

Feminism rose because really what can women do other than complain about shit to get stuff done.

Men take action unless they are weak-minded cunts.

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I don’t see any inherent conflict between the 2 positions. Think globally, act locally. The PUAs talk about how to get women but without the MRAs constantly describing women’s sociopathic nature and their ability to screw you over using the legal system, men would be more likely to succumb to a long term relationship.

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I find the MRM appeals to a lot of guys who are not ready for game and need something else for a while. The guys who get stuck in that mentality are a problem, but if your ex-wife just destroyed your life and is screwing up your kids you need someone who understands that situation at least at first.

On the other hand if you are just scared of girls (which is true of a lot of young guys), then game is what you need.

The ideas of the MRM will likely succeed by sneaking through the back door when no one is looking. MRM aren’t going to win public arguments, but they really don’t need to. Men are still in control of most things they just aren’t very loud and obnoxious about it.

I rather like the writing of Bill Price and Jack Donovan and hope they continue writing good stuff.

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Fact is, people have noticed the MRA are completely worthless for a long time

http://dapook.blogspot.com/2008/05/more-reasons-why-i-am-not-mra.html

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You know, Roosh, Fritz does have a point there. What you are doing is not really helping man per se (in the grand scheme of life) as much as it is helping yourself (and the ones who choose to act the way you are acting).

Basically, what you are doing [banging girls] is taking advantage of one of the consequences of feminism [sluttery] for personal gain.

Now, everyone is intitled to live his life as he sees fit, but it’s a bit weird to criticize feminism on one side (do you?), while you are writting books about sleeping with girls who are open to banging precisely due to that same feminism.

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That isn’t true. Even without slut behavior, game is essential to the promotion of healthy male behavior. Roosh is what I consider the American man. Make an assessment of what you want and go the fuck after it. It’s how America became the greatest country in the history of the marble. The idea that some collectivist mentality will reverse or improve the situation is silly. That is the opposite of America that I want.

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Though I agree with you,simply getting on a plane is not that easy . You have had advantages that others have not to be the man you are today. It is just not easy for the average schlub to just all of a sudden be free from the shackles that hold him in place. Some ppl just can’t WILL things to be.
This is not an excuse but a shade of grey that can’t be ignored.

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It’s true — Skrillex does have unforgivably stupid hair.

As for the MRA movement, the problem I have is that it attempts to use the methods of its enemy — the system of “social action” that was INVENTED to destroy MEN.

And they wonder why men can’t gain any traction with it.

The mainstream media, protests, activism — these are all Leftist methods that were consciously designed and refined over the last 150 years to promote socialism. Feminism is merely the non-economic, social wing of the socialist movement. Its purpose and function is to destroy the patriarchal, nuclear family, in order to replace it with the almighty State.

You can’t use collectivist methods to undo collectivism.

The message, “improve yourself” just doesn’t resonate with these people, because they have so thoroughly bought into the idea that the only form of change that is meaningful is that which occurs by and through government.

The Left has managed to eradicate most of the idea that men are free and in charge of their own lives. Now, most people believe they are only as free as some government bureaucrat allows them to be. It’s an “institutionalized mindset” — the idea that everything is what the State declares it to be.

So, naturally, they go whining to the State to beg for a slate of changes in the divorce laws. This is the very same organization that ass-fucked them.

And they wonder why they don’t get anywhere.

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I remember when you wrote that post a few years ago about “Men’s Rights”.

I had no idea what “Men’s Rights” even was back then.

I still have no idea.

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Roosh, on an unrelated note..why bang raw dog? I know you try to remain anonymous and move around, but why take the chance at all that you will get a girl pregnant or get the syph or something else?

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You are right on target.

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You make some good points, Roosh.

But you mention that you don’t need the MRM because you can just avoid the problems of feminism, by not getting married, not impregnating American women, etc.

True enough. And a good code to live by.

The only thing is, I’ve been reading MRA and PUA blogs for many years now, and I learned that code from the MRAs, not the PUAs. It was the MRAs who really got that information out there, even if you won’t acknowledge the debt.

When you talk about living your life in a way so as to avoid those pitfalls, you sound exactly like the MGTOW. Now, I’m not saying that’s a bad thing – whether a guy is banging or not, it’s sensible to avoid marriage and having kids in the West.

There’s a lot more common ground here than you’re acknowledging. On the other hand I do appreciate what you say about how men have to improve themselves. To me that’s hugely important and it’s something that the MRM doesn’t provide.

[Roosh: I got no major beef with MGTOW. There is overlap in our beliefs, even if they are not as game-centered.]

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Erm Mer Gawd Roosh. I’ve written over 6,000 letters to the editor of my local newspaper complaining about how women are evil and someone needs to stand up to them. Last week, after I went into their offices uninvited, they even said they had considered publishing three of them.
I might not be a big PUA, in fact I’ve never even had sex, but that’s because women suck and are all fat and evil sluts. In fact I don’t even jerk it to porn that contains female actors, because I heard they get paid twice as much as their male counterparts.
MRA’s not making progress? Bullshit, I’ve gotten over 10,000 Reddit gold for my MRA and Forever Alone subreddit posts.
And lastly let me tell you the best thing about being an MRA: unlike all the other socially inept, 40 something year old virgins, who get oddly aroused when watching Tom Brady’s Ugg Boots commercial; I can sit back and say that it’s because I’m a social activist. After all, women are fascist scum and don’t deserve my boner.

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“In the same breath they call me a pussy beggar, they beg the government for protection from pussy.”

This is the most effective indictment of the MRA movement I’ve ever heard, all wrapped up into a single sentence. EXCELLENT writing.

Men take action. They don’t wait to be handed success by the efforts of others. The MRA movement could learn a few things from Roosh’s example. MRAs, the culture you loathe will still be there whenever you’re ready to DO something, instead of just talking about.

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I agree that mens right movements are dumb..BUT you dont offer anything better. Your solution, move out of the country and learn game, cant work for everybody.
Imagine everyone learning game ? Imagine the insane amount of approaches women would get everyday.
Their already inflated self esteem would skyrocket.
As for everyone leaving the country is not really a viable solution either.

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Phinn hits the nail on the head. The antidote is not masculinism, but masculinity. How that is focused and applied is up to the individual man. We may be naturally disposed toward camaraderie, but that is distinct from collectivism. We don’t need male studies, it’s called history. We don’t need protection because we’re not children. We individually define success. Self-improvement is not masturbation.

DaemonMan – Game isn’t only for expat lotharios. It works in marriage too.

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I believe it was Gandhi that said: be the change you wish to see in the world.

DaemonMan
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The change we wish to see in the world is 1) have sweeter girls and 2) law regulation towards better condition for men. I fail to see how learning game and move out of the country will make that happen.

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I have the same question Donny has. Are you trying to reproduce anonymously even though your pseudonym is associated with your name on google? Tell us, do you want to be an american gengis khan, leaving descendants all over europe? If you do, I think is a great idea. I was thinking about doing so since no women ever asks me to wear condoms. Impregnate them, let the mothers of my children take care of them, and allow beta providers or the state to pay the bills. So the strategy is this: you either have to lie about your identity so they have no one to sue, or have so many children that there will be no money left for child support.

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MRA: We bought the lie and we demand it be true.

MGTOW: We don’t buy the lie anymore, leave us alone.

Game: We don’t buy the lie anymore, let’s go have a drink (you’re buying).

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MRAs are clowns, but post-Roissy PUA philosophy is pretty much useless as well. Too much evo psych emphasis on this impossible super-alpha ideal. A lot of guys would be better off just learning a musical instrument; it makes up for a lot of sins. Simply saying the word ‘band’ gets a girl interested.

Like Roosh has said before, niche game: brew your own beer. Or join some hiking club. I feel like the manosphere is always obsessed with looking super tough. Well, guess what: women don’t hang out at MMA gyms. Learn what’s useful for a street situation and apply your time elsewhere. The girls who aren’t materialistic hags tend to cluster in creative circles. You don’t need to go to another country even.

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The Vidal Sassoon reference made it worth the read.

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This is a good post because it spells out clearly that trying to change people is fruitless. As far as I know, the government accepts feminism because it’s in their best interest to do so. More men have and will continue to become self-reliant because the government has failed them.

I’ve seen a man go through a divorce, have is life’s earnings taken away and is continually harssed for more to this day. That is a straight up smack to the face and a noose around the balls. If any man is foolish enough to rely on this government to grant them their rights then they are wasting a huge amount of time by not taking the initiative themselves.

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I hope this lights a fire under their ass!

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I agree 100%. It’s a hard decision, but that is the way it must be.

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MRA sites are useful for guys taking the red pill because they explain a side to the world that is difficult to find elsewhere. But yes, they are no substitute for actually taking action to improve your life.

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There will never be a “men’s rights movement”, men don’t need a “rights movement”. They create their own rules and live by them.

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Really good post and comments.
I must admit to playing the devils advocate against game in certain venues for arguments sake,
but in truth I see tremendous value in the teaching there-of, if only for the proper philosophical outlook, it should be taught in the schools.
As your brother, If I sneak up behind ya and slap the hat off your head it’s because I want to see you whirl with fists raised.You need to be mad about it,and it’s manly satisfying to see it!

Dead on with the over 40 and not playing anymore, but am definitely part of the inadvisable social network that supports young men out getting some w/o being whipped for it.

Frankly you need us to act as counter white knights on the scene.

Between MRA’s nipping at the heels of power,MGTOW committing gross acts of omission and gamers treating hoes like hoes,we will have a better society for men.
The forces are mobilized and growing,resistance is now futile!
Triple win all around!
Keep that pimp hand strong brother.

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You make good points Roosh, but the MRA movement fails to gain traction for the same reasons game/your site/worldview, as awesome as it is, fails to gain traction. For every guy you manage to save with your teachings, a dozen will fail, and countless more will never even try. Lets not pretend that the PUA movement is making too many inroads. We’re all “fringe lunatics” in this corner of the web.

[Roosh: I don’t proclaim to be an activist or part of a movement.]

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It’s never a bad idea to take a cattle prod to those who are stuck in their ruts.

Nothing will ever improve without the “work” of PUAs, MGTOW, and MRAs. And the women who love them. Since women have “agency” our participation is necessary – indeed changing our behavior and attitudes is pretty much the whole point. I’m here for my son. I don’t care which path he takes, MRA, MGTOW or PUA, but I’m doing everything I can to help him (and his friends) avoid “chump.”

MRA is the only remotely useful role women can take. Don’t mistake this for Grrrl Power, but please don’t discount women’s ability to nuke each others hamsters, as “insiders.”

I can’t criticize you for making use of the detritus left by feminism; we women are responsible for that. But as long as women continue to give birth to boys, those boys are going to need some stability. Preferably masculine stability, not what passes for stability among mothers.

I suspect most of the whiners in the MRM *are* stuck; they’re gagging on the Red Pill. Many of them will stay stuck, and many will change themselves. The same can be said of the still defiant (rather than truly unconcerned) MGTOW, and those PUAs who seduce sluts for revenge rather than for relaxation and pleasure.

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Fuuuuck!! I’ve been waiting for this post!

I thought you had become an MRA guy. I’m glad you are not. I always thought MRA stuff was stupid. All they do is complain about women and point out the flaws in women nature. Men complaining never feels good to me. Women complain, men take action.

MRAs never talk about solutions at how to make things better. They just cry and bitch about their situation. That doesn’t seem very manly to me.

Extreme MRA views are just as stupid as extreme feminist views. People who become extremists are usually frustrated losers.

I never heard of a guy getting alot of pussy becoming a MRA guy.

I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong, I’ll admit I don’t know too much about it because I don’t pay any attention to to it, but, when I see men complaining and crying and bitching, I just automatically think pussy, loser, beta.

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flying around the world banging chicks. Now that’s never been done before. A man of action and a true change artist. Ya baby!

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Yea, compared to the femi-nazi movement, the numbers of men’s groups are smaller, but they are out there.

An excellent example of an organization which does great work is the Mankind project(google it), which essentially teaches men how to be men; as they taught me. What thing our culture does not do is initiate boys into manhood- and this is a fact which is a lot more detrimental to society than there not being enough men’s right groups.

If ur looking for a good read on the men’s movement(as well as on the idea of masculinity) try “Iron John” by Robert Bly. This will tell you most of what you need to know on the subject. “The Way of the Superior Man” by David Deida is also educational. Just my three cents worth.

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IMO (female) the pendulam is swinging back to conservatism and men, once again, will be head of household. Women need a man in control whether they think so or not. It feels great to be able to “do it all” but we are not wired that way. One can only hope.

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Action. Action. Action. Its all about action. I hate routines. I hate gimmicks and games. I’m good at being natural and funny. It comes down to balls. The man who has balls to approach a woman will get more women. I have balls. I get rejected a ton, but I also have women in my life. Get rejected. Fuck it. Stop making excuses about how life is unfair and how shitty a hand you were dealt. If you’re reading this, most likely you live in a first world country, and most likely the United States. If your broke, figure out a way to get out of it. You see no way to escape your parents basement. Join the fucking military. Do something.

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Fire breathing, acid coated, razor blades wrapped in dynamite…..Damn.

I feel where you are coming from Roosh. But if it wasn’t for some of those MRA sites I wouldn’t have found RooshV….and I’m sure I’m not the only one.

Those sites may not be as badass militant as they think they are, and they do tend to attract a lot of loser fringe stormfront types. But those sites do serve a purpose.

They let guys know that they’re not crazy by thinking something is very, very wrong with reality but they just can’t put thier finger on it enough to articulate it properly to themselves.

The Matrix analogy that MRA’s use is dead on.

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Other than the free internet promo & entertainment value, I really don’t get your anti-feminist thing. Trying to get the internet promo effect from both ends by nailing the MRAs too, perhaps?

Your rants about how un-feminine women are make it sound like you want a 1950s housewife … but I’m pretty sure you’d just run screaming from the boredom of the life of a 1950s househusband, no?

Is this on some level just what you tell your parents when they ask when you will settle down?

I recall one post where you thanked the feminist movement for making your current lifestyle possible … seems closer to the truth.

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We’ll see if regular tags work here –

I suspect most of the whiners in the MRM *are* stuck; they’re gagging on the Red Pill.

I agree with most of the comments here about the uselessness of the MRM. In fact, I don’t think there is such a thing as the MRM – it was DOA, stillborn. Who is it that MRAs expect or want to “give them their rights”? – other men?

You don’t ask for rights, you take them. If you ask for them, you give someone else the opportunity to say “no”, in which case they are not rights, they are indulgences which can be withdrawn at a whim.

Men are not going to support a culture which offers them only the choice of 3 roles – cannon fodder, criminal, or slave. No amount of harassing men that they “can’t make a commitment” or need to “man up” is going to convince anyone but the dimmest men to stick their necks in the noose.

After the Titanic struck the iceberg, the feminine imperative of “womenandchillun first, after that it is every man for himself” kicks in. Men can argue until they are blue in the face that they “deserve” an equal chance at seats in the lifeboat, but they will never get them.

The men who do survive this will be the ones tearing up decking planks and smashing furniture to build their own rafts.

The masculine principle is to take action, not to try to whine someone else into making your life ok for you – that is the feminine way.

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Only weak men need rights. The powerful ones made all the rules. The smart ones can get around the rules. Thing is, most of us are weak men

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Roosh isn’t suggesting men should expat but he’s saying that complaining wont make any difference. Instead complaining is a dangerous and addictive feel-good drug.

Reality is, no one cares. The only difference one can make to one’s life is by one’s own actions.

Any right that can be taken away is not a right but a privilege. Privelege comes at a price. There is no need to ask anyone for rights because you have the master key.

That master key is the ability to say “NO”.

If men start saying no to women, things will change overnight, but for that we must first learn to say no to our own desires.

The real war is within. The problem is within, solution is within.

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