The Most Beautiful Woman In Ukraine

Even though I saw her for only ten seconds while sitting in an Odessa cafe, she was as close to female perfection that I could lay my eyes on. Her face were nothing short of flawness and her body was in catwalk condition. She could easily slack off in other areas because having a high-octane face and body are enough to get the best men in the world, but she also had long hair that went down to her lower back. I can only imagine how long it took her to maintain it every day. Having a great body, face, and hair is more than enough to get the best men in the world, but she was also wearing 5-inch heels. She also had carefully applied makeup to accentuate her eyes and bring out the thickness of her lips. She also had nails that were long and painted. She also wore an outfit that was feminine, tasteful, and modern. She was the most ravishing woman I’ve ever seen. The man she was there to see must’ve felt proud to have her.

It’s rare to see a girl with a pretty face spend extra time on her body because she will have realized from a young age that her face is good enough to get by. It’s rare to see a handsome man grind out hundreds of approaches to improve his game since his appearance is good enough to get by. It’s rare for a man of high income to spend time on his style since his money is good enough to get by. It’s rare for a bodybuilder to spend an hour a day reading difficult books. It’s rare for an intelligent man to spend time learning what he sees as the pedestrian rules of seduction.

When you start to identify yourself as having a strength, you slack off on another area of your life that could be improved with effort. In aggregate, this means that people are equally balanced out when you account for their entire being. If you line up a hundred men against a wall, less than five of them will be obviously superior. It’s just too much work to push for multiple strengths in different areas or disciplines when having one good strength is enough to get most of what you want out of life.

So why is the Ukrainian girl in Odessa not satisfied with her genetic beauty? Why does she continue to work out, grow her hair, wear uncomfortable shoes, and spend time on style when her face is good enough? Why does she care while back in America a girl hopes to ride a pretty face to the alter at 33 years of age while carrying 20 extra pounds on her frame?

I thought about the Ukrainian girl on and off for three months, not out of a desirous passion to sleep with her, but because I wanted to know why she didn’t stop working on her beauty when she could have easily done so. I could only come to one conclusion: she wanted to be the best. She wanted to be the prettiest girl in Ukraine, and was willing to do everything to make it happen. When other girls stop short of their full potential, content at the drunken male attention or internet dating messages they’re getting, this girl kept going. Her efforts were so strong that a 10-second exposure to her stayed in my mind for months.

She made me look at my own behavior. I have constructed a comfortable lifestyle for myself where sexual, intellectual, monetary, and fitness pursuits are at acceptable levels. My game is good enough to get laid with pretty girls. It would be too much more work to bang 9’s. My body is good enough to look good in a t-shirt. It would be too much more work to get a six pack. My income is good enough to travel. It would be too much more work to double it. I’ve reached a stage in my life where everything is good enough, where I believe most other man would say, “I appreciate all that I have, and going further will just put me past the point of diminishing return.” The Ukrainian girl didn’t have to grow long hair and she didn’t have to wear uncomfortable heels—it only brought an additional 5% of pleasure upon my eyes on top of what she already had, but it was nonetheless inspiring. It was admirable for her to do so in a world full of people who just want to get by.

I know that making a little extra money won’t make me happier. I know banging a prettier girl or selling more books or having a body with 3% less fat won’t change me much. But why not try? Why not try to reach the absolute limit that I can achieve, to be the best possible man with my unique genetic construction? This means I must view all my strengths as weaknesses that need further improvement. I must continue to push for growth, continue to breach my comfort zone, and find ways to stay hungry. I must look in the mirror and not wish to be a happy man, or even a good man, but the best man that I can become, and only rest when I hit a ceiling and can go no further. I want to be a man where someone meets me and thinks, “He could have stopped years ago, but he kept going.” And then maybe it will inspire him to reach the absolute limit of what he himself can achieve as a human being.

Counterpoint: Do Not Eat If You’re Not Hungry


  1. Rich January 22, 2014 at 9:13 am

    And this is what the feminists will never understand. It’s about being better today than you were yesterday and better tomorrow than you were today.

    1. CB January 24, 2014 at 1:40 pm

      Idk, I consider myself a feminist in some sense of the word, and hell if I don’t have an extended beauty and workout regimen. I’m something of a perfectionist. I have no problem with your second sentence whatsoever.

  2. zoso January 22, 2014 at 9:14 am

    Great pos

  3. controlled opposition January 22, 2014 at 9:20 am

    The desire to be the best should be applied intellectually and emotionally too. This website has a lot to empathize with, the the fat shaming is a big exception. To get off on making someone feel bad about not being up to standard is precisely the female behavior that is so deplorable. Why are Thai/Polish/Brazilian girls better people? Because no matter how unattractive they find someone, they are unlikely to get a rush from making them feel bad about it. By indulging in that, men are inadvertently saying that they deserve all the things women do to them, because they are at the same level actually.

    1. mike2 January 22, 2014 at 11:12 am

      Ok, lets keep being dishonest by telling fat obnoxious American broads that they are beautiful.

      1. controlled opposition January 22, 2014 at 12:28 pm

        Not sinking to the same ego tripping level does not mean marry a broad with an attitude way above her station. If people didn’t secretly know men set the standard, they would not be paranoid about what will happen to women in remote areas after an influx of Western men.

      2. Mark January 26, 2014 at 8:36 am

        I’d like to see what the result of an exodus of 6 and above (plus alpha attitude) men would look like and the results on the western economies they leave behind

      3. Nicholas MacDonald January 27, 2014 at 1:10 pm

        I think I read a novel about that one time… wasn’t it called Odysseus Sneezed or something like that? Not sure…

    2. RJ January 22, 2014 at 11:33 am

      It’s not good to put hate and hurt out there. Yes, obesity is a awful problem both individually and collectively for society. Yes, the American lifestyle sucks big in gener. Why? The stress, the big brother culture, the being surrounded by people yet lacking connection, the long hours and lack of a real holiday, the high prices for low quality, the criminals who run our system behind the scene making poison laced processed foods at every juncture if commerce readily available so they can sell you a cure- their big pharmacy drugs. American culture is the problem- its cruel, soulless, and really largely tacky. Make no mistake about it American culture is a large contributing factor to the obesity epidemic. Individuals get Cathy Ina rut of misery this whole system tries to place them in and they get stuck. Educate he obese and show them love.’its bad to be lacking in any area- moral, spiritual,’emotional, or physical (clearly what obesity is). Another thing is if you insult people its like the universe has a way of bringing that negativity you put out there back to you. So don’t be mean and walk in love. Spread positivity and enthusiasm not hate and malice.

    3. Fearless January 22, 2014 at 6:22 pm

      “Why are Thai/Polish/Brazilian girls better people… they are unlikely to get a rush from making them feel bad about it.”
      -You’re getting close to pedestalizing, at least in NAWALT range. Friday night the Russian girls with us were openly hating on the Polish dancers and the Brazilians hated the Russians. All women enjoy making others feel bad.

      1. controlled opposition January 23, 2014 at 12:17 pm

        They absolutely do, you are right to make that unequivocally clear, and I should have done a better job of sticking to the point. All I was trying to say was that if men sink to that level, it is harder to have empathy for the complaints.

      2. CB January 24, 2014 at 1:43 pm

        They do? I get a major guilt trip anytime I think I may have inadvertently embarrassed someone.

      3. controlled opposition January 25, 2014 at 10:42 am

        A few years ago, my cousin fell in love. To keep the girl around, he kept spending money. Eventually, he spent all of his money, and then spent all of his mother’s as well. The only way to get it back was his life insurance policy, so he killed himself. This is not an isolated incident, he is nothing more than a statistic. As much as I disagree with a point here or there, it is still clear that this blog could literally be a life-saver for many guys.

      4. CB January 25, 2014 at 11:43 am

        Well, I’m sorry. She obviously was not a good person. However, I hear just as many stories about men being awful as I do about women. I feel about Roosh and most of the manosphere as I do about most feminist sites: pathetic and bitter. .

    4. KC January 23, 2014 at 12:33 pm

      TO “Controlled Oposition” Men have already tried being nice about things and are getting fed up. I was in a long term relationship during which time i kept my body in peak physical condition(I practice what i preach). My Girlfriend on the other hand allowed herself to gain around 25-30 pounds of fat. I tried taking her to the gym to work out with me…. unsuccessful. I tried cooking for her and teaching her the secrets I learned to being healthier… unsuccessful. I bought her sneakers and nice outfits to wear to the gym…..unsucessful.

      Eventually(years later) I get fed up and started fat shamming other women to her, hoping she would get the point…..unsuccessful!!! What women want is for us to just accept whatever they do silently. They expect us to still desire sex with their once tight but now flabby bodies because, they may have some other good qualities. My ex girlfriend was a solid 8-9 when i met her and now in my opinion is a 6. In a womans mind, we are supposed to love them unconditionally and ignore their destructive behavior.

      Whats worse is that often times these women will get back in shape after a man leaves them because suddenly they are motivated by being rejected.

      She is literally that same 33 year old girl mentioned above who wants to ride her cute face and extra 20-30 pounds to the alter and dammit i was not having it.

      So please tell me “controlled opposition” What should I have done that i didnt do? I was supper nice about the issue. I taught her workout techniques. Cooked for her. Got her gym gear. and remained patient for years praying for it to click in her mind. No results…….

      1. controlled opposition January 23, 2014 at 12:45 pm

        Honestly it sounds like you were too nice. On the other hand fat shaming also has the effect of making women get fatter.

        Dumping someone usually seems preferable to me than putting up with crap, so I perhaps I shouldn’t attempt to improve anyone else morally.

      2. kc January 23, 2014 at 2:15 pm

        Truthfully nothing works and thats what I had to learn. People have to consciously make their own decision to change and no one else can make them do it. Took me a while to understand that.

        With that said, we shame smokers, alcoholics, and drug addicts so why not shame the fat? They are addicts in their own right and also are drastically shortening their lives and hurting our eyes.

      3. controlled opposition January 24, 2014 at 8:42 am

        To be fair to me, I am also completely against shaming alcoholics and smokers, it just seems weird to be uptight about someone else’s business. People who are slightly over-wieght have longer lifespans than either the thin or the obese, and raging alcoholics have longer life-spans than those who don’t drink at all. That said, how long someone else wants to live is of no concern to me whatsoever, so I am not going to get worked up about it.

        The studies are in,fat-shaming just makes bitches get fatter, so the pretense of health concerns is complete BS. Do what you want to do, but at least be honest about the reasons.

        Even if 90% of bitches are like how you describe, in my experience things are more complicated than that. Females are not only terrible to men, but also terrible to each other. Think of a girl being raised by an attention-whore single mother. No regular mealtimes or healthy food around the house, the single mother does not notice the girl exists until puberty at which point she becomes extremely jealous and competitive. I’ve actually met a few females who got fat on purpose so that their mother would love them, and also several in that situation who got extra hot to rebel. Personal responsibility is important, but the point is the situation already is too fucked up without me adding to it.

  4. Anon. January 22, 2014 at 9:27 am

    If you didn’t at least try to approach, you sir, are stupid.

    1. Roosh_V January 22, 2014 at 10:56 am

      “The man she was there to see must’ve felt proud to have her.” You sir, can not read very well.

      1. Cedric G January 22, 2014 at 11:43 am

        It’s too bad you don’t have a pic of the girl or you can’t upload a pic of similar looking girl who’s a model/actress/etc. I’d like to see what a guru of game considers to be a 10.

      2. Awesome Possum January 23, 2014 at 2:50 pm

        Just because a woman is beautiful doesn’t mean he’s going to take out his phone and snap a photo. Even though it isn’t America, some things are universally socially unacceptable.

  5. LuisG January 22, 2014 at 9:59 am


    1. Cedric G January 22, 2014 at 11:46 am

      He did- read “the man she was there to see”??? How would Roosh know she was there to see a man if he did not approach??? Logical, eh???

  6. RJ January 22, 2014 at 11:38 am

    What about growing spiritually? Have you tried religion- do you think about mans eternal soul? I think we need to be lived by God beyond this life boring Jesus. I say separate yourself from the World for a period of time to hallenge yourself and offer clarity- fast, read Scripture, abstain from toxins- smoke, mainstream music, alcohol, and see if you don’t have more clarity. As I read the article- I thought he’s not even considering the spiritual aspect of our existence. Peace and love to all of you.

  7. BringerOfTheTruth January 22, 2014 at 12:18 pm

    Because you cant be everywhere at once. If you go for that male model type of body + being Ukrainian chessmaster, you would have to cut down on your writing.
    One gotta focus. All she has do do is look pretty, hell of a work yes but nothing compared to real challenges.

  8. чурки пидорасы January 22, 2014 at 1:12 pm

    I am from Ukraine and the most beautiful woman I have seen was French.I hardly ever see any super beauties in Ukraine.
    This arab writer of this blog sounds like a complete looser and a pussy worshiper.Quite typical for people of his culture.

  9. Dmm January 22, 2014 at 2:12 pm

    Very good.

    1. Illuminati January 25, 2014 at 12:10 am


  10. Shifter January 22, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Great article. The philosophy I’m living by since I was 18. Its old as time, written out in books like Hagakure, the Daodejing and many more. To cultivate yourself until your utmost potential is fullfilled is not only a possiblity for men, its the destiny they must follow every day.

  11. Ashley January 22, 2014 at 3:26 pm

    Easily, the woman you described makes me want to be a better woman. Thank you for posting.

    1. Kate January 22, 2014 at 4:42 pm

      Return of Queens? LOL Love it! 🙂

    2. Dr. Steve Brule January 22, 2014 at 6:03 pm

      I’ve given a lot of thought to women who might not be considered the most attractive not because they had the extra 1 or 2 points nice nails, hair, and well-fitting, sexy clothes adds, but because they at least tried hard.

      Trying to be feminine seems to be more and more rare in the “good ‘ole” USA. I have to at least respect a woman who’s making the effort.

      1. Ashley January 22, 2014 at 7:38 pm

        And ill always try my best to be the best woman I can. A good man will keep you in check too.

      2. guest January 24, 2014 at 12:51 am

        Exactly. Funny, isnt it, that the one “accessory” that adds more than anything to the attractiveness of a female is the least expensive of them all, yet you never see them wear it?

        Its called a smile.

      3. Sexy Gamer February 7, 2014 at 5:17 am

        What do you consider feminine even?

        I cook everyday, I take care of my appearance, I take care of people, I sew, I clean, I nurture, but I also pay all of the bills, own a home, home repairs, run a business and of course my hobbies which vary from video games, self improvement and self study, computer repair/technology and sport to crafts and fashion/makeup.

        I think an issue in the states may be also loser men who do not take on any family role at all. Simply play call of duty and use the economy as an excuse to never do anything EVER.

        I’ve ended up supporting my last two boyfriends (Americans) in some way and I swear half the men I went to school with are living with their parents (In Canada nonetheless).

        I think many American women are looking for a way to look up to a man and really give him what he deserves, yet it’s impossible if he will not even fill his basic roles (providing, protection, stability) and the woman has to provide them for herself, and her family, and even for her man which greatly takes away time that she could be spending at the gym, doing her makeup, taking care of nails. Something that I do, but it does take a considerable amount of effort. Makeup alone, requires you to maintain and extensive skincare routine as to not effect the integrity of your skin. Tanning, exfoliating, etc etc can add hours to the day which would be less of a big deal if we weren’t paying all the bills and pulling our men out of pathetic depressive slumps while they do nothing but eat junk food, get fat and refuse to work or study.

        The US lifestyle is creating multiple new sexes, not just men and women exist anymore. We now have lazy assholes, people who have to try and do anything, and then I guess people who think they are better than everyone else, which could also apply to the first selection listed (lazy assholes).And then of course there are the genuinely awesome people, but you don’t see too many of those.

      4. Mr. Anon February 10, 2014 at 9:57 am

        Excellent post Gamer.

        The downfall of society in the US lies in the fact that people have started to use freedom and the democratic way as an excuse to do what ever the hell they want while expecting no consequence to their actions.

        For example: I child’s soccer game where everyone is a winner. Everyone on the team gets a ribbon. We can’t tell our child they need to improve or did a bad job on something. No more disciplining children because that’s what the masses say we should do. Don’t snoop on your child to see what they are doing online or what their friends or boyfriends are like. Result: We now have the most out of control, lazy generation to ever hit the streets of America. Kids that become completely useless to their families, themselves and society.

        Another example: Oooops you slept around and got pregnant? We got a pill for that… no big deal. Women like women… some men like men…. They need children and families to….So what no big deal. Want to change your sex…we got something for that too! Men cheat on their wives…so what. Women sleep around with 100 men before their 30th birthday….. Why not…men do it… No big deal. Result: No morals, no accountability, unwanted pregnancies, rape, divorce, low self esteem…. Unhappiness.

        One more example: You make $1,000,000 and I don’t therefore you should give me some of your money because that’s fair. I don’t have to work hard I can just play video games all day and I will be a billionaire someday… I will just live at home and when my parents die I will inherit their money. Working hard is for suckers. If I have another kid the Gov. will give me another check each month. Result: Lazy, uneducated sorry excuse for human beings that think everyone owes them something.

        Gamer, I don’t blame women’s lib for any of this but I think it was formed out of this way of thinking and now it is helping to destroy things more quickly. At the end of the day every thing we do has either a positive or a negative consequence. The saying we reap what we sow has never been more obvious.

        I agree that men have a responsibility too. I think in a relationship the man has to be the leader or head for it to work properly. But I think with that job comes the responsibility of love, understanding and respect for the women. When I say love I don’t mean lust or infatuation but true love Agape’ as told by the Greeks. It is a love where you love the person more than you love yourself. It is unselfish. If a man loves a woman like this he will be a leader that she can trust and respect.

        Women need to embrace their feminine qualities and build on those. Real feminine qualities are the perfect fit for what a real man needs. Each one has a role and if they respect those roles things work out how they should. The days when men opened doors for women and wouldn’t even swear in front of a lady. They would run to a women’s protection and treat them gently like fine china. They would brag about the kind of mother’s and wives they were. Brag about how well they cooked and how clean the house was. How soft and comforting they were and how beautiful.

        Now men see women as sex objects, sluts and bitches. Sadly that is what most of them have become.

        I was watching a documentary the other day about the Titanic. It was showing how many men lost their lives on the ship and how many women and children survived it. They said not all but most of the men gladly gave their lives to save the women. I thought to myself, if that happened today the men would not only have knocked the women out to get on the lifeboats in their place but they would probably have raped them first since no one would ever find out. When you think about it though, as sick and twisted as that sounds, that is pretty much how men would treat other men in a survival situation. They would be battling each other to survive. Women have seriously trained men to view them as equals. Feminists should be proud of what they have accomplished. Well at least women can get more work now in order to support the lazy boyfriends.


      5. WorldTraveler February 10, 2014 at 7:22 pm

        Good message, Mr. Anon. Thanks. I still think that you failed to reveal the grassroots of the problem.
        The underlying reason is simple and is called “political correctness and affirmative action”.
        It all started when North American governments decided to implement the rules and regulations of affirmative action based on an utmost political correctness. Suddenly skin color, sexual orientation and gender became the decisive factors when hiring people on all kinds of positions from a CSR to manager, police officer, firefighter, EMS etc.
        I ain’t even talking about the Upper Levels in management with their own hidden agenda, under the table “games” and trickery, bribery and corruption.
        Education, professionalism, skills and work experience do not matter any longer and are irrelevant as long as a candidate has the right skin color, sexual orientation and happens to be of the right gender.
        The mainstream society embraced all the new changes and rules and anyone who dares to differ, to have own thoughts and opinions, to stand up and be counted and to lead by example is automatically labeled a “loser” and an “enemy of the society”.
        To sum it up: it all started to change when political correctness and affirmative action got engraved into the head of North Americans. Do not blame women, blame all those folks who’ve accepted all the new rules and gave up their own standards and criteria.

  12. Seth Rose January 22, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    The idea of maximizing oneself in all aspects of life is something that fascinates me; it’s something you either have or you don’t. Most men will go through their lives doing little to improve it.

    As for women, it seems that self-development is something that is not naturally ingrained in them, or maybe it’s just me. It seems that the only time they look to better themselves is in terms of looks, and that’s not even the case with Western women anymore.

  13. bigxxx January 22, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    Great Post.
    I was talking to a Ukranian chick who kept telling me the competition is so fierce back home and every girl is trying to be the ‘absolute best’ .
    From this article, it’s clear she wasn’t joking.
    Gotta get my ass there soon.

    1. dana January 25, 2014 at 6:58 pm

      Competition is fierce because Eastern European men have high standards and never lower no matter how ugly , stupid and idiots are.

      1. Mark January 26, 2014 at 8:34 am

        UK: First year of uni. I went to the uni bad and saw this landwale sitting on the lap of what I can say was a 7/10 guy. why allow her? she’s not worth it.

      2. dana January 27, 2014 at 3:45 am

        A too handsome man is a problem because you’ll be feeling bad walking on street and see people’s eyes on you saying “how can he date her?”. Better if you are the beauty and he is the man , if you ask me 🙂

      3. MAUREEN February 14, 2014 at 6:51 am


      4. Mark February 14, 2014 at 10:23 am


      5. Mark February 14, 2014 at 10:25 am

        Yes maureen I do realise, which is why I denounce lard acceptance and call out whenever I see a morbidly obese whale acting like she is the shit

      6. WorldTraveler February 14, 2014 at 5:47 pm

        Too bad, that a “healthy body” in North America means a whale of a body, someone who’s morbidly obese but still tries to play coy and pretends that ain’t nothing wrong with her.
        If you want an example, just browse some online dating ads and see yourself when some obese female claims that she has “a few extra pounds”.
        Males, please, do NOT lower your standards and raise your selection criteria when looking for a female to settle down with! Better yet, learn a trade a foreign language, get educated, save some money and start travelling the world!
        Get married overseas and settle there. Trust me-you’ll be looking back at your time spent in North America as one never ending nightmare.

      7. WorldTraveler January 26, 2014 at 8:51 pm

        American males have NO standards at all and will gladly obey every female order or request in a vain hope to get that elusive access to female body.
        Desperation and lack of sex/intimacy rule in North America and there ain’t no change in sight!

      8. dana January 27, 2014 at 3:18 am

        In Eastern Europe a woman gain respectability
        with a man beside her and a man gain admiration with a beautiful woman beside him , he’s feeling proud to have her. Probably American men don’t care so much about
        what other people are thinking and tend to be more egocentric, but here you are fulfill through your partner. For a EE girl “beautiful man” is generally a man who doesn’t beat you up, so she is not lowering her standards when you see her with a not so appealing guy beside her.

      9. WorldTraveler January 27, 2014 at 7:23 pm

        Have YOU ever been to Eastern Europe yourself??
        You are way off with your conclusions…Ain’t no bears roaming the streets of Russia these days and same about men beating up women….

      10. dana January 28, 2014 at 10:48 am

        I live in South-East Europe.

      11. lloydsauvante January 28, 2014 at 6:14 am

        My American friends here in Kiev often talk about the “beauty and the beast” phenomenon. Striking girls with even less than average looking guys. Moreover, they seem to stay together.

        It takes a courageous woman to brave the world as single and available. Many have nominal boyfriends who, if nothing else, serve as an excuse not to let you get too close., I am pleased to say that the three most luscious singletons I knew, all without guys for more than two years, are now taken. Apparently en route to marriage. Respectively, to a Ukrainian, a Brazilian and a Spaniard, all of whom live here. Take note of the advantage of physical presence.

      12. dana January 28, 2014 at 11:25 am

        you have to meet her via a social circle , that’s all

      13. MAUREEN February 14, 2014 at 6:49 am


      14. WorldTraveler February 14, 2014 at 5:32 pm

        Have YOU ever been to Eastern Europe yourself?:-)
        I wouldn’t ever want to get close by a mile to a North American whale of a woman who thinks that she’s Miss Universe while wearing some worn out pants and old running shoes, walking around with no make up and being interested only in Hollywood gossip.
        North American females should be avoided by all means possible!

      15. WorldTraveler February 16, 2014 at 11:29 pm

        As expected, NO reply from Maureen. North American women a.k.a. WHORES never back up their words with real deeds. Yet another EXAMPLE why males should avoid them by all means possible.

    2. Brianmark January 26, 2014 at 1:46 pm

      The competition is keen there for rich Ukrainian men. My first Ukrainian GF was 9-10. When I told her “you’re very pretty.” She said, “there are many beautiful women in the Ukraine.” She also dated a mafia type guy and is now married to a rich guy and living in Spain and traveling the world. Many rich FSU women let themselves go and are fat.

  14. WorldTraveler January 22, 2014 at 10:38 pm

    When I was single, it was taking me 20 minutes to get a meaningful date in Ukraine or Russia. YES, 20 MINUTES.
    But an eternity to get one in Canada or USA. I gave up all hope of dating a normal North American female, found a great Eastern European lady, married her and moved over there. Since then I recall time spent in North America as one never ending nightmare.
    Every self respecting North American male individual should get educated, sporty, learn a trade and a foreign language and start traveling the world!!! It’s all in your hands, folks! Travel the world, learn new cultures, meet new people and new women!!!
    Marry the one you like the most and settle anywhere in Europe, Asia or even Australia.
    And never look back at your lonely life in North America!!!

    1. Pap hip January 23, 2014 at 7:13 am

      Preach brother!
      Any ideas on trades where I could learn in 6-12 months how to make at least $40 grand a year sini could hang in Asia Latin America or Eastern Europe???

      A good comment cold literally change my life because America has been rough to me.

      The women here are so arrogant and entitled- they take joy in a mans psychic energy bein squandered on pampering their arrogance as they act pompous when its really delusions, pride, and ego pumped in their head by the system/Illuminati.

      1. Awesome Possum January 23, 2014 at 2:37 pm

        Start an online business. No promises that you can make 40k in a year—-that’s up to you. But online business is the way to go. Find ways to generate passive income—eBooks, Youtube videos, wherever your skill lies.

      2. lloydsauvante January 29, 2014 at 2:47 am

        Start any business. An entrepreneur stands out here like a cardinal in a flock of crows. I have had ideas for a half dozen and am taking baby steps towards realizing the first of them.

      3. WorldTraveler January 29, 2014 at 6:46 pm

        I’d be a bit careful about starting/promoting an own business in Ukraine these days…. The country is very unstable both politically and economically at the moment.
        Give it some time at least until the summer before advancing with your business project.

      4. lloydsauvante January 30, 2014 at 4:52 am

        First of them is very conservative. Build a rental property on land we already own. We just built a house, and learned the process.

        Related to this project is gathering real estate information. There is no Zillow or anything close to it here. An information service would involve little capital. Host it in the cloud and there would be nothing to steal.

      5. anon1 January 23, 2014 at 3:34 pm

        > Any ideas on trades where I could learn in 6-12 months how to make at least $40 grand a year sini could hang in Asia Latin America or Eastern Europe???

        if all it took was 6-12 months work wouldnt we all be doing it?

        i’m not going to tell you how to make money because most of us are pretty fucking unqualified.

        i can only tell you what i’m doing and going to do.

        become a producer.

        leverage your money not your time.

        spend the majority of your time coming up with ideas, and a market to sell them too.

        make a product or service that takes a one time amount of X hours to make and thats the only time you put into that product besides tweaks for the market. [tweaks are essential]

        re: product, higher conversions, bigger audience or introduce other services and sell for higher profit.

        get yourself after many hours of work and probably 1-3 years to a position where you’re comfortably earning Y amount a month with close to zero effort. sell business in market where they will pay you a large multiple of that to buy you out. live abroad if you like to take advantage of currency/living abitrage

        use new principal, wash rinse repeat till you have a huge principal so you can live on dividends, or compound interest if thats your game [not mine]

      6. Nicholas MacDonald January 23, 2014 at 3:46 pm

        If you’ve got a BA/BS, you can get a TESOL certificate in four weeks and land jobs paying $30k+ in many major Asian cities. Once you’re there, the typical path is to work your way into one of the bigger cash rackets- like corporate training (if you like wearing suits and giving bullshit laden presentations) or test prep (if you’re good at standardized tests and don’t mind working with teenagers). Just be prepared… It can be career suicide if you had corporate ambitions… The path from teacher to full-package expat is not as common as it used to be.

      7. Phil January 23, 2014 at 5:01 pm

        Thanks for your response.

        What kind of income do the corporate trainers make??? 60-80k at the most???

        What about a means to get an income in Eastern Europe?

      8. Nicholas MacDonald January 23, 2014 at 5:12 pm

        Corporate trainers of the “glorified English teacher”/self-made variety can, if they negotiate well, command $75-100 an hour or more, and if they have consistent clients, make $50-80k a year not even working full time- but there is a fair amount of hustling involved to get started, and it often helps to hire a local agent to assist you, even if they have to get a cut. I don’t know about Eastern Europe… I lived in Shanghai for five years, so I know Asia pretty well (having worked with people from all over the region and who have worked all over the region), though I’ve heard it’s possible to make a decent living as a foreign teacher in EE as well (I had colleagues who had taught in Russia, Ukraine, and elsewhere).

      9. WorldTraveler January 23, 2014 at 9:01 pm

        Exactly the same as in Asia. Become a professional English instructor and proceed at your own speed:-))
        You ain’t gonna make 60K a year, but 30K is possible with a bit of an effort. And it’s completely enough to live a normal life.

      10. WorldTraveler January 23, 2014 at 8:59 pm

        The best “trade” is to become a professional ESL teacher. 6 months is completely enough to become good at this. Teaching also will give you the best access to the pool of local females and direct live interaction with them as well as a possibility to invite any of the local ladies to join you for a coffee during your lunch breaks or in the evening.
        You ain’t gonna make 40 grand doing this in Eastern Europe, but you’ll sure make at least 20 grand American doing teaching and it’ll be more than enough for you to have a lifestyle you want and to find a girl you want.

      11. Mark January 26, 2014 at 8:26 am

        Added to that, whilst you make half, you need to spend less than half to live

      12. WorldTraveler January 26, 2014 at 8:47 pm

        Right on! You can’t even remotely compare living expenses in North America and in Europe or Asia.
        North America is on the decline and the quality of life evens up with every passing year. But North America is a lonely continent whereas Eastern Europe will provide you with plenty of opportunities to evolve as a personality and as a family.

      13. Nicholas MacDonald January 27, 2014 at 1:04 pm

        Yeah… that’s the other thing. I ended up dating several of my students (in China, I found that the corporate/adult training gigs were the best places to meet women… they were full of single, independent women in their mid 20s who were looking for men. OTOH, when I taught at a college, it felt like a wasteland- 18 year old Chinese women are the most boring, sheltered creatures on Earth. They don’t get interesting until they’ve been out in the real world for a few years and severed a few ties to their parents). Though the woman I ultimately married I met at a professional’s mixer, I’ve known lots of relationships, including marriages, that started from those training centers…

      14. WorldTraveler January 27, 2014 at 7:18 pm

        Forget about colleges or universities. Ain’t gonna get no new women at those places. Go for corporate trainings and one on one education. This ain’t for you, Nicholas, you know your routine already, but for those planning to get away from North America!!

      15. Nicholas MacDonald January 27, 2014 at 9:13 pm

        Exactly. 😉

      16. Mark January 26, 2014 at 8:25 am

        JAPAN ROKorea Thailand etc if you are an engineer or stem qualified

      17. jj April 21, 2014 at 1:25 am

        can you elaborate on this? I’m only aware of hindu imports. They’re looking for low budget here…

      18. lloydsauvante January 28, 2014 at 5:51 am

        I live in Ukraine. The job situation is pretty bleak. Unless you get sent here by a multinational (Coca Cola, Microsoft, Cargill…) the best you can do is teach English or in a private school. Not that great.

        As far as the girls go, there are so many attractive ones that your mind should shift to other things. Education, sociability, ability to dance, and yes, willingness to have a family. Better here than in the States, but none of them guaranteed.

        My advice – my decision – has been to marry and stay here. There are too many cases of foreign brides either not liking the US or, worse, being corrupted by American feminism. If you can find a way to afford it, let them stay where they are and you make the adjustment.

      19. WorldTraveler January 28, 2014 at 8:22 pm

        Good call, pal! Ukrainian job market ain’t that bad compared to Latin America. You can’t make 40K a year , but I’d say 20K is a reasonable amount of money to expect even when just teaching English.
        You can decide about your daily work load thus finding time for social interactions and get togethers.
        Eastern Europe is the best place to look for a perfect combination of beauty and brains when looking for a girl to build a strong and evolving family with. There are tons of beautiful, smart and stylish ladies around giving you the chance to be selective.
        I wish every self respecting North American male could move over here permanently!
        Males, remember, North American women make excellent whores but terrible wives and should be avoided by all means possible.

      20. Sexy Gamer February 7, 2014 at 5:07 am

        American feminism? What do you consider a feminist idea? Are you against equality/ BTW: Cousins are Ukrainian Dancers in Canada who traveled the Ukraine with their dance troops. Is it a huge thing over there, or is it more celebrated by those living abroad to remind them of a past tradition?

      21. WorldTraveler February 7, 2014 at 5:35 pm

        Yes, I’m totally against the so called politically correct equality and Affirmative Action when people are hired because of their skin color, gender, sexual preference and similar shit.
        Ain’t no fucking equality in this! Shouldn’t it all be about the education, work experience, skills, knowledge and professionalism?
        Thus I’ll always be against “equality” when the less qualified person gets the job, promotion or preference just because of the “factors” listed above.
        And that’s one of the main reasons why I left North America for good.

      22. lloydsauvante February 8, 2014 at 2:06 pm

        A feminist idea? How about the idea that men and women are mentally and emotionally identical. Feminists cherish this notion, though it flies in the face of historical research, and contemporary research performed outside of Women’s Studies and other such recent, politically-motivated acad

      23. fdf April 20, 2014 at 9:39 pm

        I have to really caution against the teaching English gig unless it is for a couplle years for fun. Totally saturated gig, with no room for advancement, and bad work conditions. It will also kill any way to get a normal job back home and the local culture doesn’t want you to work outside of ESL.

    2. Mark January 26, 2014 at 8:24 am

      uk here, same applies to us.

      I will spread the good word 😀

  15. gr8M1indz January 23, 2014 at 1:48 am

    It’s simple, people are lazy. They are only motivated to make people like them, at the point which they improve too much to the level where they make people JELOUS, they cower and do not evolve past that point, because the eagle that flies high is lonely at the top and so they are OK with just being with the herd . You think when you are great people will like you but oddly enough, it makes them hate you. Such irony. I believe Roosh wrote an article called “everyone wants you to fail” which was some real brutal truth! So you have the laziness factor and the diminishing returns factor. If i do more bicep curls.. that’s gonna take hours a week, all for something that disappears if i go on a 2 week vacation. Muscle building is a waste of time and eating too many calories just ages you, makes you fat, and exposes you to more environmental toxins. For what? even if you have a large pecker, your roided legs make it look tiny, id rather have normal legs and my schlong looking huge in the mirror. Than have to put a heavy bar on my bar back every 2 days and bend down just for a bulky muscle that will offset my cock and balls ratio in the mirror. Life is hard enough without the burden of having to lift heavy weights every single day for months, than have it all disappear after 2 weeks, what a joke!

    When you reject females, You are free to become a slob other than just doing cardio and being a healthy weight, you can get on with living for yourself. Toronto females are like pavlov’s dog experiments, you eventually become completely asexual! I see roosh is burdened by his looks, he feels the need to use them for what they are worth, why work so hard for the approval of these goons? all for a twat that becomes a tunnel after 2 months, i reckon when i’m wealthy with age the woman i’ll be entitled to will have cavernous arizona canyons , such irony. 9 inches in girth is what you need for these women! unbelievable. I seen em shove entire fists up their arses like it was nothing! HAhahaha guess my ol chap is useless for the modern woman anyways. You need money to attract a female, but by the time you can become wealthy enough, you’re too old and the stock of women you end up with look like shit.

    Women truly are nature’s pump and dump scheme, Beauty for a decade, to reproduce, than it disappears and they divorce the man.

    Just the natural cycle of life

    -women were god’s second mistake -Friedrich Nietzsche

    guess even a genius would have to agree.

    1. Leon January 23, 2014 at 7:21 am

      Like my Dad (who has a both count over 70) says most of them aren’t good for nothing except sex, cleaning, and cooking and most of them are average looks and mediocre in bed.’its a lot of hassle for that moist warm cavern. I know a former pro ball player who gets more excited pushing big budget commercial deals he hrs paid on than any game or pussy and the dude still is in massive shape (he just powerlifts few times a week).

      Is it just me or do women have an instinct to take what talent or energy you have and try to piggy back or parasite off of it when you are riding high and on top of your game???

  16. butbut January 23, 2014 at 8:47 am

    I… I don’t understand… isn’t this a pedestalization of women? B..But… being alpha… but… but… hypergamy… but…but… everything I learnt on the internet… but… but… flip the scripts… but… but… nofap… but … but… the 48 laws of power… but… but… there are no 10s… but… but… the manosphere… but… but… all women are worthless… but… but… mgtow… but… but…

    1. LOL January 23, 2014 at 9:53 am

      “I don’t understand”

      Clearly. Sorry about your functional illiteracy.

      1. Léa Bo Béa January 23, 2014 at 5:32 pm

        I can’t stop laughing

  17. Hades January 23, 2014 at 11:47 am

    Maybe she had a younger sister who was hotter.

  18. Alex Kierkegaard January 23, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    Haha, that line was written for me:

    “It’s rare for an intelligent man to spend time learning what he sees as the pedestrian rules of seduction.”

    The difference is that I am not doing that — or any of the other things I do — to reach some ideal of “becoming the best man I can be”. To me, any such rationalization is retarded. I am just doing it because I enjoy it. The moment I stop enjoying it I’ll stop, and turn to something else that I do enjoy. I am not competing with anyone — not even with myself. If I am better at some things than some other people, it’s just how things are. How things turned out to be. I certainly had no plans to surpass anyone when I was a kid and dreaming of the future. I just wanted to have fun. Any such plans I may have made at various points in my life (as I DID make from time to time: e.g. to finish at the top of my class, or to win a swim meet, or to make a better website than Insert Credit) were merely short-term goals which I set for myself, once again, merely because they were fun, just to see to what extent I could achieve them — and I ultimately failed at as many of them as I succeeded. For example, I never did graduate at the top of my class. And I never did win a swim meet in my life. I did make a website that’s better than Insert Credit though. And so on and so forth.

    What Roosh is advocating — consciously trying to max out your performance in every single area of interest to you at every single time — is not a good idea. Or maybe it is if you only have 4 or 5 interests — in which you’ve already lost most of your interest anyway. But true passion doesn’t work like that. Interest in specific activities in passionate, multifarious people simply doesn’t work like that. Something new strikes your fancy, a new sport, a new travel destination, a new science or theory or business or personal pursuit — and you find yourself neglecting everything else — including oftentimes things that self-help gurus would never allow themselves and their students to neglect, such as your health, etc. — and plunge headfirst into them. And then you work, and you strive, and you struggle in them, and you achieve a lot, until a point of satiety arrives — different for every person and to a large degree genetically determined — and then you don’t enjoy it as much as you did at first any more. No high achiever in ANYTHING ever has what people call a BALANCED life. In fact periods of balance are periods of LOW ACHIEVEMENT — mere resting phases in incubation periods for when the next high achieving cycle will begin. Do mothers lead balanced lives when they are pregnant? The baby that is to come becomes the focus of all attention…

    I love Roosh, despite what I see as his many deficiencies, and I by no means want to suggest that he is a low achiever or an insignificant man. His mistake here is simply a theoretical one, and I believe he will be able to see even himself and his own life in the explanation of REAL achievement that I have provided, and nod his head silently in agreement — even if he still has me banned from his site and won’t allow me to post without IP masking and such.

  19. The Truth January 23, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    That’s a very narrow perspective right there. The average American woman in her 30s looks much more “preserved” than your average Russian chick, just because Russian chicks rarely take care of themselves, beyond maybe putting some makeup on. Many American chicks actually go to the gym and try to eat healthy, so they last looking better longer.
    Plus, as a person from Central Europe, trust me you have a very narrow perspective stemming from the fact that you are a foreigner. Foreigners automatically get alpha status, while Central European women treat their average beta male countrymen like shit, just like you describe that American women treat American beta males. Many of us complain about our women, just like you do. If you are nice to them, they treat you like shit. The only reason why all the foreigners don’t see it, is because as foreigners they automatically get the equivalent of alpha status. The same woman that will jump into bed with a foreigner just one hour after meeting, probably has several local beta orbiters who think she is a virgin…

  20. JoeAmerica January 23, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    Been to Ukraine, yep 100% agree! The current environment and history for Ukrainian women is quite different from western women. Here are a few of the things I think that are in there history that contribute to this, yes. Post WWII there was a massive shortage of men by the tens of millions literally which drove a tradition of being very competitive for what few men there were. Even today there is an imbalance in this ratio. Currently there is little in availability of processed foods, more effort in preparing daily food and a lot more walking built into there daily lives that naturally raise the physical bar. What was to me so amazing about Ukrainian women is how much they could do while having so little. Not all are good of coarse, a few really suck. Its no big deal when there are so many good ones. And also there is a general apathy about life from all quarters. So many guys are heavy boozers which Ukrainian women have to endure.

    Once you are living there beautiful girls are no big thing, there are so many of them. It was extremely easy as a western guy to acquire an attractive fun partner for fun and more. Other issues become much more important.

    Там хорошо́, где нас нет

  21. Phantom January 24, 2014 at 7:52 am

    This is gold.

  22. 2014womenTruth January 24, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    Say you plan on going to Brazil for a couple months, the best case scenario plays out, and you find the feminine girl that you dreamed of ETC, The next thing you’ll want to do is import, The problem with foreign women is that once you import them, they turn into a western girl! They start with the entitlement ETC! Or the 8 you picked up in the foreign land slowly realizes she is worth a fortune on the dating market in a western country and leaves your ass with your money, This is how i see it would happen, Than you get double stung! because you had to travel for a female that turned into a western type so double the work twice the disappointment!! I can only see this ending up in heart break and disappointment. If this weren’t the dark side of foreign women, i’d be booking a trip tommorrow! But i ain’t that naive!! If it’s too good to be true…. As they say

    1. WorldTraveler January 24, 2014 at 8:32 pm

      1. Ain’t you one sore loser who keeps looking for all kinds of excuses how NOT to make a move and change your life?
      2. What’s stopping you from moving to Brazil or Eastern Europe permanently?
      3. Why do you have to bring a lady back to North America?
      4. With your approach you’ll be eternally looking for excuses while jerking off during lonely nights.
      5. I made the move several years ago and never looked back!
      6. FUCK North America and North American females a.k.a. WHORES.

      1. 2014WomenSolutionsThinkTank January 25, 2014 at 1:48 pm

        yeah, i cant keep jerking off in the cold weather with the other Toronto males who are on OKcupid jerking off waiting for some WHORE to reply, who have no balls to travel because of beta instinct. …..With nothing but north american BITCHES around me, I’m already exploring my options in advance, however there is a devil in every detail especially in anything to do with women! If you wanted to ruin a male, the easiest way to do it would be through some alluring woman! Men are suckers for women. But the biggest sucker is a north american who settles down with a feminist costing him his money he could be spending to go travel and see REAL women. I’ll study the Roosh strategy, finding a Poosy paradise and than keeping my mouth SHUT. Might take a couple years but the same beta male in the scenario a) would still be jerking off in the cold weather. I ain’t no weak feminist dominated beta , travelling now is easier than ever, and i will exercise my options! I’ll work half as hard for a woman with double the value of that of a north american fe-MALE. not female. fe(with small letters) MALE because they are masculinized! looking for a woman not a wo-MAN. Thanks.

      2. WorldTraveler January 25, 2014 at 8:14 pm

        Good observation about the stuff going on at all those OKCupid and PlentyOfFish dating sites where tons of desperate and sex hungry males are chasing a dozen of fat and ugly females…
        Do not look for a pussy paradise, look for a personality and brains in a woman.
        And remember- it’s all in your hands. Ain’t gonna be no magician who’ll change your life overnight. You and you only possess the powers to change your own life! Don’t let North American whores to ruin it.

      3. WorldTravelerthe2nd January 27, 2014 at 6:31 pm

        I look forward to laughing at the fellow north american men jerking off in the future, or tolerating some cold BITCH who offers nothing but a carrot on a stick of grief, Guess i will start studying the foreign lands. Learning some new languages, Than travelling.

      4. WorldTraveler January 27, 2014 at 7:13 pm

        If you browse my previous messages you’ll notice that I strongly recommend North American males to learn a trade AND a foreign language BEFORE planning any trips overseas. That’s a prerequisite for a successful settlement abroad.

      5. WorldTravelerThe2nd January 27, 2014 at 7:27 pm

        I’ll practice game with the world-class coldest entitled cunts in the world here who have a 95% rejection rate( success increases with fat women),Once i can get a bang here every month or two(most likely 3), I’ll know i’m ready for almost guaranteed success abroad. I’ll check out Poland, Ukraine, OR whatever. I ain’t planning on living in a foreign place permanently though. Once i figure out the poosy paradise or whatever, I’ll consider a property or something in the future. Pissing off to Alberta with a trade to make some real north american $ with the clowns and fat whales who act like men, should serve as motivation. The red pill sure is bitter, But bitterness is medicine! Folks grab your cocks, and your passports and get the hell out and meeting foreign women! Real quality!

  23. DemotivatedPickupGuy January 29, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    i find myself being more disgusted by women after reading this website, Not motivated to go and meet them, which is ironic, My game has gotten worse because i have no respect for girls in general after reading game,unconsciously it comes out that i have a low opinion of them. Meeting women is impossible if i have fresh game literature in my head, i read game to think it’d improve picking up women, and it backfired by making me repulsed by them, so when i do talk to them, i have a cold disinterested face with no emotion, and no personality, you need inspiration for game, not a good idea to read about what an idiot she is … un-inspiring , turn off. Lowers testosterone and is mentally unhealthy makes it 10 times harder to get laid especially if you already have a low opinion. It will change your attitude in an un-sexy way and make you feel as if all of your effort is for nasty cretins who you end up getting nothing out of . The whole game angle attitude is flawed, What you are trying to accomplish is satisfaction, How are you going to do that by destroying your desire for the “object”… It will become the opposite of motivation! I’m starting to think these beta males have an advantage as they are optimistic, ignorant to the true nature of women, and probably a lot more motivated than someone who knows game. As Roosh said, better to have guts than to have brains in life. The idiot will make the investment and get rich while you sit around jerking off and watching the stock double in a year or the guy balls deep in the twat who doesn’t know game and is a bit of a dork, but was more motivated to approach! and whine about it while reading how much women suck, what a bunch of liars they are, ETC. Intelligence without boldness is fucking useless . It’s not enough to be intelligent in life, you also have to be a little crazy. You need a little inspiration to put in the work on a female. Or you give up. Make excuses. The ignorant beta male has a definite edge, he still believes the love lie so he works his ass off and doesn’t have the obstacles in his attitude that a bitter player would. Unfortunately… It’s like the “fool” tarot card. Perhaps the fool is not so stupid after all. If his ignorance always results in a better outcome than the highly analytic alpha male with a high analytic ability.

    1. WorldTraveler January 29, 2014 at 6:42 pm

      I personally hate all the Pick Up stuff and Game associated with it.
      Have you ever tried just to be yourself without any game faces, tricks or phrases? Forget about being a player, be YOURSELF!! Ain’t it simple?
      Expand your horizons, don’t limit yourself with North America, try Europe, Asia or even Australia, travel the world, get educated, do sports! Forget about the Pick Up and Game, and just dare to stand up and be counted, to be a personality and to lead by example! Trust me-it’s all much better than all those games, tricks or lame pick up attempts!!

      1. RemotivatedPickupGuy January 30, 2014 at 6:18 pm

        Game is all about faking the attitude of someone who is successful, and out-doing the male competition in an aggressive fashion with lies. Photo-shopping profiles, making up stories to sound interesting, and i can’t say i blame them, most women are so stupid they don’t have the capacity to appreciate genuine conversation. The ones who do are mainly far too old and ugly or fatties. Or the smart ones are busy capitalizing off any ounce of makeup/natural jaw line and eye separation ETC. Women game is Fakery with eye lashes, clothes that hide fat, fake hair, makeup, pushup braws.ETC. They do the same shit. I’m real good at spotting natural uglies as i did date a girl who was magic at turning herself from a 6 to an 8., It was like the bathroom before going somewhere was a cocoon of transformation. In goes a 6, out comes a hottie! too bad most of the time spent with her she was in nested-comfort-droid mode. (She acted like an entitled 9 hence why she is gone.) Without natural true beauty, the inspiration to treat her like an 8 did not exist! Now someone who is more sexless and desperate can have their turn with the twat, I’d rather be single forever than be with another one of those &*^&^! No wonder women act shitty and don’t want sex from you, they know if they take their clothes off you’ll vomit! I guess it makes for good “Ugly guy game” girls will wanna be around you for comfort of being ugly, and they won’t mind letting you cunt joust them every few hours or so. if your an ugly guy with a big comfortable house well than even more to ya.

        it’s sad a lot of men go through a lot to get with these fakers. Almost like they have unlimited power, some sadistic fat bitch can gain instant power and obedience over pretty much any males in North America using those fakery techniques, and if you call them out on it and instruct them to lose lard, or to not dress sloppy all the time, Than how dare you! They get pissed off and leave your ass and find a bigger sucker and even try to make you jelous. You gotta fight fire with fire in the end, and if you are yourself you will be hated. If you Dare to tell a women to not be as ugly, she will be gone but claim she likes honesty. If you dare point out the ugliness of life, men will hate you, women will hate you, Do not destroy people’s hopeful illusions in life or they become your enemies. People would much rather have the blue pill and feel comfortable than the red pill and be mad. Hence society can never and will NEVER change and only get worse. Ive dont quite a few social experiments going to various bars in the city, and being the cheerful guy, everyone loves you, they buy you drinks, introduce you to their friends(only so long as you seem un-interested in their women), ETC. Being the truthful guy, they hate you! It’s all about pretending things are great, making them forget their own subconscious reaction to their shit environment.

      2. WorldTraveler January 30, 2014 at 8:16 pm

        Way too many words about nothing, pal. I’ll try to break up your story into several paragraphs.
        Again, I do NOT want to FAKE an attitude, profiles, make up stories etc. If a female ain’t interested in REAL me, then to Hell with such a female.
        If a female can’t stand a truth spoken, a sincere attitude, honesty and personal integrity in a male-to Hell with such a female, again.
        North American females can NOT and will never be able to be good wives or life partners. Yes, they make excellent HOOKERS, but will never even remotely resemble a wife or a stable and reliable life partner.
        The best advice is to leave North American females alone and start traveling the world, marry a normal female and forget North America as one never ending nightmare.

      3. farkennel February 1, 2014 at 5:54 pm

        Why the fuck would you recommend marriage to ANY man?

      4. WorldTraveler February 2, 2014 at 12:33 pm

        Guess you are still young:-) Ain’t nothing wrong with having sex with many women at your age, but you misunderstood my message. What stops you from finding a life partner who’d be willing to have a swinging lifestyle with you? It is possible and you’d be able to have multiple partners even when married and so will your wife. There are always options. Don’t be afraid to broaden your horizons and explore new things in life!

      5. farkennel February 2, 2014 at 8:51 pm

        Age is irrelevant.If you have money and your bills are all caught up then why would you risk having some maggot take it from you via a corrupt court system?And this “life partner” shit is a scam invented by those with a vested interest in it i.e. the women who get YOUR dollars.A single man with friends and an income is a happy man,dont believe the bullshit that will get you tied down and make you unhappy.

      6. WorldTraveler February 3, 2014 at 7:12 pm

        How about being selective when looking for a partner?;-)
        And what if I want to give some dollars to my lady or my wife?:-) Don’t be selfish:-)
        You seem to care only about money and money again:-))
        Life ain’t working this way.
        I’m a happily married man, my wife is Eastern European and I don’t feel like I’m tied in my decisions or unhappy:-)
        But I’ve seen tons of North American males, who have just that- a circle of friends and a good job, but were eternally jerking off in their condos:-) Definitely not a pattern to follow:-)

      7. Li Chéri February 21, 2014 at 7:14 am

        I get that you do not want to get married, but IF you ever change your mind, just draw up a rock solid prenup beforehand. As should anyone worried about a partner and/or a flawed court system ripping them off.

      8. farkennel February 21, 2014 at 8:39 pm

        There is no such thing as a rock solid pre-nup.It was supposed to be “rock solid” that the sperm donors in the 70`s and 80`s were guaranteed anonymity but now the feminists are challenging that on the grounds of best interest of the child,and no doubt the feminists will win.
        To World Traveler,maybe your friends arent prepared to fuck beta females or they just dont give a shit and are happy.Just because you turned lazy and settled for the same old hole day in and day out,dont assume the rest of us dont like(and can get) a variety of pussy.

  24. Kevin Getz February 3, 2014 at 12:01 pm

    wearing uncomfortable shoes that will f**k up your body = smart?

    1. WorldTraveler February 3, 2014 at 7:02 pm

      Have YOU ever been to Eastern Europe and spoken to Eastern European girls?:-) I guess not:-)
      I’d take an Eastern European lady any time over a North American one. North American females have no distinct gender, they are a “shim”, which is she and him in one body, they dress ugly, they never take any care of themselves, wear no make up, they can dress in black stylish pants and white worn out running shoes and think that they own the street they are walking on and every male they encounter is their slave by default. I don’t want no North American female who puts her high heels on once a year, walks like a cow on ice while wearing them, takes the heels off in 1 hour since she can’t walk in them any longer and keeps walking barefoot, featuring her dirty feet to everyone around. Is THAT smart, tell me?
      North American females are the ugliest creatures on Earth who somehow got convinced that they own the world and can make any demands without ever giving anything back!
      Ain’t gonna work this way, pal! But you can still admire some North American whale of a woman in running shoes while I’ll be enjoying a company of a sexy lady by my side. 🙂

      1. WorldTraveler February 4, 2014 at 4:52 pm

        As expected, NO reply from our internet hero Kevin Getz…. so damn predictable….

      2. Christopher February 5, 2014 at 5:10 am

        What’s your take on Central Europe, I have an opportunity to move toGermany (I am from Toronto) into a nice house (half hour outside of Frankfurt) and have the use of a very nice car (Range Rover) my skill is in the high end of the service industry, serving. However, I am a young 50 year old, look to be in my mid forties. In good shape, though this can still be improved upon further, and am still very much in the process of taking the Red Pill. I sense the status of being a foreigner from NA. Already close-kissed on a high status divorcée, didn’t push further but perhaps that’s best. Turns out she’s a bit of gold digger mentality combined with insecure neediness.
        However, a server at my age doesn’t demonstrate high value easily.
        Nonetheless, simply asked: do you have an opinion on German women?

      3. NorthAmericanMaleHumiliation February 5, 2014 at 8:19 am

        Western Europe, Is like north america IMO, anywhere where the economy is good, the women will be snobs. That society values MONEY, and the women value MONEY. Germany is almost exactly like america(otherwise why wouldnt roosh go there?). I think it’d be easier to get laid in america because the women are much bigger idiots than Germany. Lets say EE women are the same kinds of gold diggers right, well they still make double the quality of a north american. Except Russians, they are hardened by a shitty communist history and hard life from beginning, women there are awful mean, nasty lots. The red pill may help you game women, but it also makes an even better case for avoiding them! Go to Ukraine that is where successful older men go for model like women, they see an older successful man as interesting and alpha. North America makes it humiliating to be a male. Unless you have money, when the woman finds out there is no commitment coming and she cant get your money, she gets pissed off and leaves you.

      4. RedPillSolutionsThinkTank February 5, 2014 at 8:26 am

        What you do in america, is spend a couple years with the woman right, than buy her a “promise” ring once the relationship falls apart, so that she believes shes “in” , and that she has suckered you and that she is just waiting for the ring and marriage(this usually gets you a year or two more of free sex), this tricks them for a good time, than just don’t marry them, EVER. They are crazy. The same thing would work in a foreign country. I find using the term “love” Seems to be quite a good tool to convince them, and the whole promise of marriage to a foreign man makes them fall pretty hard. So long as you keep it as just a theater and entertainment level in your head to protect your wealth and psychological health, and NEVER commit. Life is too short. Don’t get stung. If you dont have game, Your gonna just get played yourself! Thats why it;s called game.

      5. Christopher February 5, 2014 at 9:34 am

        Cool. Thanks for the heads up. Of course, WESTERN Europe, ignorant geography call.

        I had a feeling, I have money, not that I want to be blowing it on the hamster wheel, but I don’t have a high status vocation. The appeal of Germany is the built in house, car and friendship (the owner is a life long best friend). I can present some kind of DHV, even though it’s not owned by me. My friend just got dumped by his wife, and although he is recovering fine, I believe his attitude has been sufficiently adjusted (read: smacked in the head) that he might be ready for the red pill. Still not sure. However, when I show him some pics of things that I can’t get a girl to do for me now on command over texting he says three words: “Now that’s control!” He is a CEO/CFO type for medium sized technology firms. The Matrix is everywhere. Anyhow, don’t know for sure if he’s ready, right now he’s got a 35 year old Ukrainian 7on him. She’s pretty independent, but I’d say she is lurking in the shadows looking for her opportunity. To his credit, he is very suspicious of any overtures that are near money or commitment. He knows something is wrong (i.e. Matrix), but he just doesn’t know what yet.

        I don’t think Eastern Europe is in the cards for me. Germany could be a good adventure for me, nonetheless. Learn a new language, plus I again some alpha being a foreigner. Add to that my new project of learning not only game, but getting clear on what I want from chicks, it could be an interesting time for a year or two. I don’t know. I am aware that at 50, I need to be careful with my time choices. I also really love Canada.

        Frankly, I am still a little angry about this whole discovery (I won’t stay this way, just still thinking about it at deeper and deeper levels of thought)! I just wish I had realized all this twenty or thirty years ago. I only started to get any serious realization in 2005, the year 2013 saw my heart get ripped out, yet again. I think it prepped me in the sense that when the student is ready, the lesson will appear.

        Seems like all here are half my age. Worry that it might be too late to put some serious experience up on the board.

        Thanks again for the answer.

      6. WorldTraveler February 5, 2014 at 11:45 am

        Have YOU ever been to Russia and had a chance to deal with Russian women?:-) Your story about the impact of communism and other local hardships on Russian females sounds very funny to me:-)
        I’d take a Russian woman over a Ukrainian one at any given second. But that’s my own preference.
        What you are 100% right about is the fact that North American females should be avoided by all means possible!!

      7. WorldTraveler February 5, 2014 at 11:40 am

        Toronto? That Hell on Earth for any self respecting male???
        I’d move in an instant, be it Germany, Russia, Ukraine or any other country BUT Canada!!!! You ain’t gonna lose nothing with your move but win a lot-new culture, language, people and continent! Just move and leave North America behind! Germany ain’t world known for its women but it’s relatively close to Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Slovakia or Hungary where you can even go on a weekend trip!
        Don’t waste your years in North America! Your destiny and life in general is in your own hands!

      8. Christopher February 5, 2014 at 12:00 pm

        Thanks for the reply WT. I hear you.

        Did you see my response to NAMHumiliaton’s response below?

        I have concerns re: my age, and my value status. My career is not high status.

      9. WorldTraveler February 5, 2014 at 6:11 pm

        Welcome any time:-)
        Please tell me WHY is age and your value (??) status a concern for you? What does career have to do with all this?? Care to elaborate?:)
        I’d love to hear your concerns since I’ve been around the world myself and have a lot of rebuttals:-)

      10. Christopher February 5, 2014 at 7:04 pm

        Late, here in Germany. I will expand tomorrow—although its pretty simple, really.
        I am VERY open to rebuttals.
        Thank you again, WT.

      11. WorldTraveler February 5, 2014 at 7:19 pm

        Ain’t no problem, pal:-)
        I’ll wait for your elaboration tomorrow before I give you my vision of it all;-)
        But I see that you are in Germany right NOW and that’s a huge bonus compared to all those poor sexless male souls in North America.

      12. Li Chéri February 18, 2014 at 3:21 pm

        There are plenty of fine American ladies. Maybe some people just lack the ability to attract any good nice looking long-term partners and therefore have to seek out poverty stricken people elsewhere because they cannot have a relationship with anyone unless that person is dependent upon them in some way.

      13. WorldTraveler February 18, 2014 at 9:12 pm

        Fuuuck, another North American feminazi…
        Sure there are “plenty of fine American ladies” who’ll gladly whore themselves to the highest male bidder on the dating market. The only so called “ability to attract” is defined as MONEY and status in the society in North America. For starters a male absolutely HAS TO make 5K after tax, own a nice lakefront condo and a couple of nice cars.
        Have YOU ever been to Eastern Europe yourself since you are talking about poverty here? Your line about dependency in a relationship PERFECTLY underlines my truth!
        Y’all North American ladies are after some rich abusive motherfucker with status in the society! You’ll tolerate any kind abuse from him just to have access to his credit cards and money!
        Every self respecting male individual should avoid North American females a.k.a. WHORES by all means possible.

      14. Li Chéri February 19, 2014 at 1:29 pm

        I a not North Amercian, I am Swedish.

        I am sure there are plenty of people in all parts of the world who chooses a partner based on their monetary accumulations and/or status. I am also sure there are plenty of people in all parts of the world who do not choose their life partner based on such superficialities. As the U.S. is the most capitalistic country in the world, where money and status is god and the people are tearing eachother down as they try to climb up the social status and financial gain ladder, I am not suprised that the general culture is completetly shallow and that many U.S. Americans defines success and greatness as money and status, not actions, principles or character. Males as well as females.

        You come across as slightly bitter. Were you rejected by “pretty girls” and then decided to hate all women because you didn’t “get” the women you thought you were entitled to? The manner of which you speak of your fellow human beings might be a clue as to why many women aren’t interested in you. Mayeb you only tell yourself that it’s that you’re not rich enough, when in fact it might be your personality and your attitude that is the problem.

        Which countries do you count as Eastern Europe? I have been to many different parts of Europe, and there are lovely and savvy individuals as well as idiots and douchebags everywhere. There’s no such thing as a country devoid of negative aspects, nor any country devoid of positive aspects.

      15. WorldTraveler February 19, 2014 at 8:49 pm

        1. I ain’t entitled to no girls or women. I leave that to North American females and their sense of entitlement.
        2. I do count Russia, Ukraine, Belorus, Moldova as Eastern Europe.
        3. Svensk? Det e la bra. Var sa god och svara pa svenska. Jag hoppas verkligen att du e ju svensk och kan ursakta mig for mitt goteborgska:-)
        4. By the way, I’m happily married and my wife is from Eastern Europe. So you are off again with your assumption that I’m still bitter because of some rejection.
        Way too many mistakes on your part, don’t you think?:-)

      16. Li Chéri February 19, 2014 at 9:36 pm

        Med tanke på att hela din kommentar riktad mot mig var både otrevlig och felaktig så kan jag leva med att jag hade fel på två punkter. Det känns lite jobbigt att jag var fräck och arrogant nog att anta att jag kan veta någonting om en främling baserat på några få paragrafer, men ditt antagande att jag var en hora som gick att köpa med status och monetära medel talade varken till din fördel, eller visade prov på någon form av hövlighet.

        Många män som kallar kvinnor horor, generaliserar och antar en massa brukar ha haft negativa erfarenheter, och deras beteende genomsyras av bitterhet. Många män som söker sig till länder med utbredd fattigdom letar inte efter en livspartner, de letar efter en undersåte. Det finns alltid undantag, självklart. Men till och med du kan nog erkänna för dig själv att många män (och kvinnor som åket till exempelvis Gambia) har inte en helt sund människosyn.

      17. WorldTraveler February 20, 2014 at 9:10 pm

        Oh, good! Thanks! For the first time someone really can back up her/his words with deeds.
        I’ve never said that YOU are a whore. BUT I’ll always keep saying that North American females are indeed WHORES willing to sell themselves to the highest male bidder on a dating market.
        And that every self respecting North American male should avoid North American females by all means possible.

      18. Li Chéri February 21, 2014 at 6:59 am

        That is your opinion, and I respect your right to have it as well as any personal experience which may have led to it. I just find it very hard to believe that ALL North American women are bad, even though it might be a widespread cultural reality in that part of the world.

      19. WorldTraveler February 21, 2014 at 7:46 pm

        YES, 99.999% of North American females do indeed follow this particular pattern since it IS a cultural and a societal reality in North America. Women here care ONLY about money, status in the society and how to find a male stupid enough to give them all these perks without ever giving anything back to a male and making absolutely no efforts to get better as a person and as a lady.

      20. Li Chéri February 22, 2014 at 8:50 am

        That is most unfortunate.

  25. AllHandsOnDick February 4, 2014 at 2:41 pm

    Get used to the growing trend of all hands on dick and all hours of the day 365 days a year, in North America, the only way to get a sexy lady here, is if you work out some sort of arrangement where you LOSE, and she WINS financially, That’s right folks, So i recommend a good brand of vaseline and some romantic comedies for you to watch and cry about while you act beta because north american women are not to be trusted, and act like males, which is confusing.

    1. NorthAmericanMaleHumiliation February 4, 2014 at 2:44 pm

      Yeah and when she leaves you, she bangs guys in your big house that she takes from you than laughs at you!

    2. WorldTraveler February 4, 2014 at 4:51 pm

      And what’s stopping you from making a move and leaving North America for good? Why do y’all folks absolutely have to stick around in America?
      It’s all in your own hands-learn a trade and a foreign language, get educated, save some money and start traveling the world! You can enter over 160 countries visa free and settle there. Try Europe, Asia or even Australia! Learn new cultures, meet new people and new women! Marry the one you like most and settle overseas!
      Internet whining ain’t gonna take you nowhere! So start acting instead of complaining and blaming North American females! YOU MALES are also to blame for the current state of things on the dating market in North America! YOU lowered your standards and changed/softened your criteria!
      Changes start from within!! Remember that!

    1. WorldTraveler February 6, 2014 at 8:00 pm

      Too bad…..way too many males in North America have lowered their standards and abandoned selection criteria when it comes to dating and relationships. Don’t blame women, blame yourself, guys!!

  26. Sexy Gamer February 7, 2014 at 5:04 am

    Okay, yes. I’m hot now. That was a fantastic piece of social commentary. I’m the fat chick who gets by on her face. I respect her too.

  27. Mr. Anomy February 7, 2014 at 9:47 am

    Roosh I was sitting in an airport and had a few minutes. I decided to see what craziness you were up to so popped onto your sight to only find this masterpiece. This was one of your best posts I’ve seen.

    There are a bunch of hidden gems behind your words if one cares to dig deep enough.

    I would bet the lady’s are secretly digging this little gem too.

  28. Aye. February 17, 2014 at 3:26 pm

    Random Question: if a girl is tall, should she persist in wearing heels or is it more strategic to wear flats to minimize it? I am 5’10, and need to maximize what I have to work with, but am not sure which is worse.

    1. Aye. February 17, 2014 at 5:53 pm

      I ask here because heels were mentioned, and the same people who were all “oh my god, a pixie cut is so cute on some girls!!” also say things like “men don’t care about your shoes as long as you seem confident and comfortable with yourself.”

      1. WorldTraveler February 17, 2014 at 5:59 pm

        Any self respecting male individual would always prefer a stylish and sexy lady wearing high heels! ALWAYS!
        Only North American sheeple of a male might settle for a morbidly obese woman in flip flops, worn out sweat pants, some out of style T-shirt and with no make up! And they do so just to get that elusive access to female pussy they’ve been lacking during all those years spent in some hellhole town in North America.
        Female confidence is very good indeed, but even better when coupled with brains and style!

      2. Aye. February 17, 2014 at 11:01 pm

        I get that sweats and no maintenance is a bad way to go. But seriously. I am eye level with most men when I am in ballet flats. In 5″ heels, I would stand at 6’3″. Isn’t that a little ridiculous?

      3. WorldTraveler February 17, 2014 at 11:15 pm

        How can that be ridiculous? I’m 6’3 myself but would never feel intimidated or ashamed if my lady were of the same height. Why is this even a problem?
        Ain’t we all of different height after all?

      4. Aye. February 18, 2014 at 12:11 am

        Ok. Just want to make sure I am up to speed:

        Heels = not detrimental to the sexiness a woman at any height.

        Standing as tall as a man, or taller = not a problem so long as she is significantly thinner.

        Ballet flats, boat shoes, loafers, et al. = perfect to reach the right height for potentially gazing into the eyes of my dream woman, who will want to whisk me away in her suburu and will need me in sensible shoes for spontaneous hikes.

        How am I holding up, here?

      5. Aye. February 18, 2014 at 12:21 am

        This is all very helpful. I can’t control my height, I do control my weight, and people who tell me that flats are sexy are the same people who have a vested interest in keeping my SMV down: competitors, controlling boyfriends, mom.

  29. John Smith February 24, 2014 at 1:31 am

    “while back in America a girl hopes to ride a pretty face to the alter at 33 years of age while carrying 20 extra pounds on her frame?”

    Is it because narcissistic culture that says you’re beautiful no matter what?

    1. WorldTraveler February 28, 2014 at 5:50 pm

      In America guys have absolutely NO choice, NONE! And thus they have to settle for the lowest of the low, lowering their standards and eliminating selection criteria just to get that elusive access to a female body, ANY kind of a body, fatty, medium or skinny one.

  30. Anon March 4, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Roosh, the girl was probably raised on a good diet and had a rich bf/husband and just dolled herself up all day. It’s not hard if you have a lot of time and money to spend.