The Notch Collector

I often meet a certain type of Western man in my travels: the notch collector. He is the man who collects notches like trading cards. He enjoys presenting his cards to you, occasionally dropping a card or two on the floor in the hopes that you or someone else will see it. He insists on seeing your cards so he can compare them with his. He has an accounting spreadsheet system to record his new scores. He assumes that his cards provide insurance against being unhappy in old age. He is blissful with his collection until he meets a man who has cards that he doesn’t. His cards keep him busy, and he would be confused on what to do with his leisure time if he was not allowed to collect.

If anyone is to blame for creating such a man, it’s me. I’ve described notch collecting in many posts and offered it as an objective view of your progress in the game. I’ve also published posts that put notches at the forefront of male achievement. Notches are one of many metrics I use to judge my satisfaction with women, but the notch collector uses it as the main source of his happiness with females and how he compares himself with other men. If another man has less notches than him, he feels happy. If the man has more notches than him, he’s unhappy. This is a troubling development, because notches in isolation are not enough to give fulfillment with life or women, and it’s not much different than men going around asking each other how much money they make.

I don’t blame the Western man who collects notches. What else is he going to do to feel like he has achieved something in life? Getting married and having kids would have been the answer 30 years ago, but now few men dream of this. Or maybe he could invent something and change the world, but the days of the solo inventor working in his personal laboratory are over. Most men simply won’t discover or create anything. Some can maintain internet hustles, but where’s the glamour in that? Sure, he makes $4,000 a month sitting in front of a computer screen pushing e-products or apps, but that money is just a number on a screen that he doesn’t touch or feel. It’s abstract and not a source of masculine pride.

He could pursue a life of good health by working out or learning a martial art, but hitting a certain goal on the bench press will leave him satisfied for three hours at most. Notches, however, are quite concrete—or at least they feel concrete. The vaginal penetration is real, a glorious achievement, but it quickly fades and you need to collect another to log into your spreadsheet. As long as you are actively notching, one builds upon the next and you feel the growing momentum of your achievements, your masculinity reaching ever higher, but the minute you take a break, whether voluntarily or involuntary, those old notches don’t nurture you in the present. There’s just as abstract as numbers in your online banking account. They become bits of fleeting nostalgia of the days when you were ready to embark on dozens of approaches on the street or in the club to get a lay that made you feel like you put all your faculties to good use in the pursuit of something pleasurable and worthwhile.

The notch collector is a sign of our times, analogous to the man who grew up poor and then later dedicated his life to pursuing riches and material possessions. But the gold chaser at least will still have his money when he wakes up one day and realizes his pursuit may have been at least partly foolish. But when the man with 200 notches gets tired, what does he have? Good memories, perhaps, and sharper social skills, but nothing that will give him the pride he felt when he gained those notches, when he was full-time in the game and plowing through great quantities of women that he would not remember had he not photographed the encounters. The point of a diminishing return for the notch collector is a drag indeed, and a trip to Southeast Asia to bang everything in sight is the last stop before the inevitable “Now what?”

I don’t fault the notch collector. He’s a product of societies with heavily defined social spaces and roles for men. There are few openings for him to become a pillar of his community or a businessman that makes a difference. Getting married and becoming a father was a path to fulfillment in the past, but now it’s a straight line path to ruin. No, the best thing for men these days is to make that internet money, travel the world, bang some sluts and share the photos with other men. The most admired men today are those known for fucking girls, because that has become the pinnacle of a Western male’s existence, while the most admired women are those who can take selfies of their big ass. The notch collector, the selfie whore, the mediocre rock star, the smartphone addict—they are a mirror unto ourselves, of being born in a time where there’s not much else to do to feel like a worthy human being.

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Michael Corleone:
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My dear children: It is now better than several years since I moved to
New York, and I haven’t seen you as much as I would like to. I hope you
will come to the ceremony of papal honors given for my charitable work.
The only wealth in this world is children; more than all the money,
power on earth, you are my treasure.

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RRrrrrrrrrrright… Ok beta, go have some kids, and a nagging wife, who divorces you and takes half your pension.. not to mention some shit head kids, who end up in rehab.

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It must be sad , being you.

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Yeah, if owning a condo at the beach in California, driving a BMW, and banging chicks in Ukraine for a month or two every year is sad.. Well.. Call me Mr. Depressed.. I’m “The saddest man in the world”.. stay thirsty my friends.

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@chimp God

How old are you?

Because even though that sounds fucking awesome for some people….others have different life goals or are in a different area in life.

And that’s sick dude. I also own a boat and a bmw. Materialistic things don’t necessarily make some people happy

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Will,

Do you not know where you are at? It seems like people have wandered on to this forum, forgetting where we are at.. seriously. People have other goals in life, yes! I understand that! This is fucking the Roosh forum! Do you not know what he does for a living for Christ’s sake? He writes books about traveling overseas and fucking chicks.. plain and simple. If guys wanted a forum to post about their children taking a shit in the toilet for the first time, or how their wife got a promotion at her HR job, why the fuck would they be on here? That’s like the guy who looks at porn, because it’s “Art”.. Stop kidding yourself..

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People would be on here because some of roosh’s points apply to other aspects of life than getting a super high notch count. Yeah having a high notch count is nice (I went to college too and was in a frat blah blah blah) but my point is there’s more important things in the long term of life for some of us

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They do? Please enlighten me.. what aspects of life do they apply to, other than picking up women, or bettering yourself in someone aspect, which therefore, increases your odds of picking up women? I’m sorry to break it to you, but Roosh always focuses on getting pussy.. He has stated, “There is no better feeling than sticking your Penis inside a new girl..” So please enlighten me once again, what aspect are you referring to?

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Ha what? Ok obviously you can relate everything back to getting girls man. All I’m saying is that some of us are tired of fucking 6 and 7s and raising the notch count, a 9 that keeps coming back. Idk if it’s happened happening or gonna happen, but I bet if roosh had a 9 chasing him who wanted kids etc he wouldn’t be doing all of this and the girl would be pregnant. just saying

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True, true.. Roosh did mention in “Bang Poland”, that he almost fell for a Polish girl.. I’m pretty sure I recall, had she spoken English more fluently, he would have written “Marry Poland”, instead of “Bang Poland”..

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I think at that time after reading that book, there was no stopping him though. I mean he could have enjoyed teaching her better english if she was worth it. I think that was a tip of the cap to himself that it could happen, but deep down it won’t. hehe

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not everyone wants kids…& they’re not for everyone either. In fact, I don’t think many people realize what a responsibility such a thing truely is.
Further more, seems to be that 2005ish-2014, more & more rational men are waiting & evaluating the parental concept & many like myself are saying “No” to fatherhood all together. It doesn’t make me a bad man. It just means i’m being honest with myself & this life. Having children & a marriage is not requisite in this life. But being divorced & raising kids in a broken home is a real possibility. Many men that have kids regret them later in life too.
I’m 30 & I’m less afraid of dying than I am getting a girl pregnant.

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Go read the title of Roosh’s books.. I’m pretty sure they all have “Bang” in them… Sooo… Am I missing something? He is helping us learn how to bang chicks.. not how to propose to them, and create a family. Do that shit on your own time.. Go with God my friend.. That is a path of loneliness.. You will find no friends here in regards to that topic.

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Yeah, if owning a condo at the beach in California, driving a BMW, and banging chicks in Ukraine for a month or two every year is sad.. Well.. Call me Mr. Depressed.. I’m “The saddest man in the world”.. stay thirsty my friends.

The tragic tale of Mr. Depressed.

Worshipping at the altar of BMW because BMW = social status.

Trapped on the beach in California, the land of Peter Pan hedonists with all the ambition of a crate of sea slugs.

Only able to escape to the Ukraine for one or two months, stuck in the grind the rest of the time working for The Man to make car payments and mortgage payments and earn enough relief from indentured servitude to race back to the Ukraine for another stint to be terminated all too quickly once more the following year.

Trolling Roosh’s articles to demean those pointing to the purpose of life as the same one it’s been since it crawled out of the primordial soup, while you laugh at your parents’ weeping as they watch their line halt at you.

The slave to the system who considers himself a rebel as he runs from his biology to instead do what those who would enrich themselves off his back command him do. Obey, consumer, and reap your deserved reward.

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Once again, people who don’t register and like to run their mouths over the internet. Why dont you register, post a picture?

I drive a BMW because it’s nice, and feels good.. it drives great, and it’s fast. It’s better than my piece of shit Honda Accord that I used to drive, that was falling apart.. I drove the same car for 6 years, and it was beat to shit. Yes, I so badly wanted to look cool.. I bought a used BMW which cost less than most people pay for their cars.

Trapped on the beach in California? I never said I like the people here.. I’m stuck in California due to work.. but If I’m going to be here, the beach is the place to be.

You do realize that we all have to work for a living? My job lets me take time off, and travel for a few months every year, however. Most jobs require you to stay almost all year long. You know who talks like you? Some “conspiracy theorist/anti government” guy, who lives in the basement of his mother’s house, in some shit hole, in backwoods Ohio.

Do you not know that the ultimate consumer, is you? You are the guy who buys the diapers, baby formula, buys the “diaper genie”, all the bullshit strollers, the car seats, the Mini Van, or the big ass SUV that pollutes our air, and clogs up our streets. You are the sucker that has to buy a house, so he can have a backyard for his shit head kids to play in. You are the one who busts his ass every day, going to some shitty “business” job, where you barely make enough to get by. You are the one who goes home and escapes reality, by either A) Drinking yourself to death, B) Watching porn.

I would bet that you probably still live with your parents.. you think you are some cool guy.. because moms doesn’t make you pay rent.. maybe she even lets you take out her station wagon once in a while? Maybe when you have a hot date with the red head from next door that still wears her headgear.. maybe you will even get lucky enough at the drive in.. she might give you a hand job?

I got an idea.. register on the forum, post a real picture of yourself, maybe even write a quip about your life? Then we will talk.. until then, you are exactly what I wrote.. and the sad thing is, I’m probably right.

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Look, whatever ‘prophet’ said was way too philosophical. But I get what he’s getting at.

The point is that it’s nice to have a 9 invested in you and somewhat chasing you. And man, I’ve been through college been through a frat etc. I’m saying for some it is more fulfilling when you develop an attraction/connection with a 9 that keeps coming back as opposed to just banging out 6 and 7s yes it’s fun and gratifying but I’m talking about long term fulfillment.

My guess is that if you constantly work at playing this game and what not you will drive yourself crazy (hence these guys who live on the Internet analyzing 18 hours a day). Hey, I’ve been doing it too b/c it’s interesting but at some point you gotta take a step back.

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I never said not to have a girlfriend.. I’m talking about marriage. Who said you shouldn’t date a girl who is a 9? If she’s hot, and cool as fuck, why not? Live together.. go on vacation together.. great.. get married? I would strongly advise against that.. have kids? Another bad move.. but at the end of the day, it’s your choice.. Actually I’m not even against having kids.. I would have a few.. If I didn’t live in USA. There is no benefit here.. I have friends paying 1/2+ of their paycheck.. They can’t even afford to live. How do you start another family, and yours is gone, because half of the marriage decided to call it quits? That’s all I’m saying..

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And, if handled right, having kids can be the most fulfilling and coolest things to happen to someone…ask any man that has held the head of a stable familynd he’ll explain.

But people see things differently I guess. That’s why I still learn from people like roosh

And give me a break. Post a picture of myself and make a profile? I’m already pissed that I analyze this shit some of the day…I set boundaries I’m not trying to invest more into this, buddy.

335i whips tho

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Hmm.. Russia is currently thirty percent Muslim. like Germany etc.. whilst Muslims don’t run the world, they’ll be owning your ass in ten to twenty years time because whites are not having kids. I don’t deny that the problem with white society is how the money changers have sponsored destructive feminism to screw over white men. so white bitches are the number one visual problem of why white societies are fucked. UK/US/Anglo nations/Europe and false Israel won’t exist In fifty years. Mostly due to false israel’s culling of whites and attitudes like yours, which though understandable, will lead you to destruction by your own hands.

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If fundamentalists try to physically control them with violence White people will have to result to letters and numbers eventually-
You know…
AR-15
M-14
AK-47
M-24
M-9

Ps-Gun sales are going up not because America is some kind of freedom renaissance but because the bankers will make more money funding the sales and production of small arms as well as tool up all the proletariat to waste each other over political, religious, and ideological issues when crunch time occurs ia political or macroeconomic upheavel. As modern history has already shown us- its a win-win for the central bankers every time. Way to go dumb sheep for handing over your economic future to the Rothschilds in 1913.

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Way to go inbred near-retard “Royalty and Nobility of Bygone Europa” [all of the Lily Whitest of persuasions, of course], who dissipated themselves into debt and dishonour, and sold their people into endless indentured servitude.

Of course it was just lovely beforehand, what with personal hygiene of the commoner enough to disgust an Aboriginal African (who actually knew to brush their teeth at least 10,000 years ago), a bath being taken perhaps once in life as a baby at baptism.

Of course one yearns in the bosom of one’s soul for the bygone days of that Noblest ruling class taking frequent and violent liberties with the peasantries’ fecal orifices.

Woe to the Noble Shepherds who sold their sheep short and shorn to the Judas who, after emptying their bags of coin, will lead them all to ignoble butchering on an industrial farm or by the oily hands of an inexpert ‘Halal’ slaughterer…

Yea, who can but lament the unkosherness of it all.

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russia is actually neay 13% muslim because they still hold non slavic territory like tartarustan chchnya dagistan etc. if they let then seperate like with kazakhstan uzbebistan etc. the percentage will be lower. germany its only under 5%. bht like ecsry other immigrants in the world they only kive in urvan areas not town n small ities. by the pew report myslims will grow to 8% in europe by 2030 to tadays 6%.

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Do the stats put out there reflect the truth? In 2010 the UK government claimed a population of 62 million, even though agribusiness and a major supermarket chain put the population at 80 million

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that wont be untill 2066. look up cia world factbook wiki n pew to get you started. those figures you got are way off. been watching demographis for fun since 06.

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Can you explain how Israel is culling whites?

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Not everyone wants kids….not everyone needs kids…& not everyone should have kids. Kids are not a requisite in life.
Why would you even want to bring a kid into this world?? “Oh, so we can keep-up with the muslims.”

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Ask his daughter at the end of Godfather 3 how brilliant her Dad was?

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Roosh describing himself.

Look, every man has a hint of this notch collector you speak of. It’s masculine nature to be competitive.

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Or Fisto. Fisto left SwoopTheWorld to “start a new blog” and he went on a second South-East-Asia tear very recently. The times are changing, maybe

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Fisto should be interviewed by Roosh again-his Asian article was interesting reading.

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I’ve noticed that the physical quality of women has declined in just ten years due to dietary habits etc.. They have gotten fat where they we’re note so before. Not to mention the attitude, though I humbly believe the younger generation are an improvement in this regard in some localities.

The worst thing I believe, is VR. Technologies and sexbots. Some men think it’s great, but it will just create a society of men and women divorced from each other, all enslaved to toil for a meaningless life. Utopia is always a dream – the reality of it turns out to be fat worse.

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This is honest. Don’t become a pussynerd.

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What about the difference between notch collector and flag collector? I think the latter, at the end of his life, can look at the big map board he stuck on his living-room wall and admire all the achievements of his life: how he conquered eastern-Europe, both the Americas, big part of South East Asia; and then remembering the victory on scandinavian vikings, the glorious russian campaigns, the sweat of the Carribean ride, the fight for the Balkans… and so on. Do you think it is such a pitiful life?

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I never stated that notch/flag collecting is pitiful, but it does seem to be the default method of achievement for men today, to no real fault of their own.

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Most men even at work, discuss which girls they have banged, from different countries.. it’s a normal conversational topic.. because it’s interesting.

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Mabye it’s just because in the uber PC society, they fear talking of anything else. Which just goes to show how fucked western society is. It is dead in ten years time.

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Yes but there’s still a consistent difference between the two. The guy who does it for the notch, at one point of his life might happen to fuck his best friend’s wife. Or his stepdaughter. After all, it’s just a notch, and sex is just sex.
The flag hunter has a totally different ethic. He does it in a romantic attempt to double (literally and metaphorically) the gestures of legendary carachters from the past, such as conquerers, generals, or Casanovas. There’s a difference in value and glory.
Personally I don’t see any value in fucking, to make an example, all the girls from your neighborhoods; or all your female workmates. That’s just like a dog pissing on all the corner walls of his block in an attempt to mark the territory. Sure would be nice to be a college legend who fucked all the female students of the campus, but unfortunatly this is a natural gift that only few men have. The real championship begins later.

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I had been told your created the term flagging. Who first used the term? Notches go back at least a couple of decades maybe more.

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I published the term after a guy told me about it in Spain (circa 2005).

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The flag collector has conquered nothing and no one. No monument is built in his memory, no street sign or woman bears his surname, and no child bears his image. The flag collector is nothing more than a hit-n-run street-gang member riding a Boeing 747 instead of an Impala. Worse, the flag collector’s shooting blanks. In the end, he’s created nothing. The world moves on, and all he has are his memories, fading in time, along with him and his collection of little flags, into obscurity.

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Guy.. No woman bears his surname? No child bears his image? I think you took a wrong turn on the internet.. You meant to go to the feminist forum.. This forum here is for red pill guys.. So you think guys here are fucking off their lives by not having children, or getting married? I know you want to think your little quip here was so intelligent, however, you do realize that at any moment, that woman can divorce your ass, and change her last name? You realize that your kid could end up being the next Dahmer, Manson, etc. This has to be one of the lamest, pussiest (is that a word?) posts I have read yet..

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Damned if you do, damned if you don’t..

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The realist shit ever bro

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A man that sires no children has committed genetic suicide. A man who’s afraid of his woman leaving him is a weak man, and he deserves the disrespect he fears. If a man is afraid of his children becoming failures, it’s because he believes he has no wisdom to impart upon them that would result in them becoming otherwise. Be a man, not a manlet, and you won’t have to concern yourself with being left to masturbate all night in half a house while sending half of your paycheck to your ex-wife for 18 years to support your future serial killer child.

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You are missing the point.. I don’t know how they do things in Spain, but in America, women hold all the power.. I am speaking about life in America (USA). A woman divorcing you has NOTHING to do with you being “weak”.. When she is tired of you, or your requests (as in a blowjob? maybe some sex?) she can decide to get rid of you, and she will take half of your paycheck, for the rest of her life. Our court systems are so corrupt and one sided, it’s not even funny.. Wisdom to impart on his children? In the end, people have free agency, and they will make their choices, regardless of how much “Wisdom” you impart upon them.. Your daughter is probably getting gang banged by the college football team, regardless of your “knowledge” you imparted upon her.. And you say, “well.. not my daughter!” Well homeboy, the brothas are blowing their load inside SOMEONES daughter.. Just sayin.

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Not everyone wants kids….not everyone needs kids…& not everyone should have kids. Kids are not a requisite in life.
You don’t have kids for some kinda legacy’s sake. Welp, genetic suicide it is I suppose. Parents don’t always mold their child’s personality, nature does this often times. & what exactly do you say to a man that can’t have children or “shoots blanks”?
You’re obviously a man that’s had one or more unplanned pregnancies along the way…or perhaps…a female commenter.

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Speaking of obscurity- what has Spain really done historically in the last 250 years?
It’s no Germany- verdad?

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It managed to, for the most part, keep its people out of the slaughterhouses that were World War I and World War II, for starters.

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Managed to make a country that is leeching off the EE, and bringing down the Euro.. They stayed out of wars because they were pussies.

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They were not pussies. Franco allowed volunteers to fight on the German side on the condition that they would only fight on the Eastern front, against Communists. Below are some of Hitler’s opinions of the Spanish volunteers’ contribution to the fighting on the Eastern front, per wikipedia.

Hitler referred to the division as “equal to the best German ones”. During his table talks, he also said:

“To troops, the Spaniards are a crew of ragamuffins. They regard a rifle as an instrument that should not be cleaned under any pretext. Their sentries exist only in principle. They don’t take up their posts, or, if they do take them up, they do so in their sleep. When the Russians arrive, the natives have to wake them up. But the Spaniards have never yielded an inch of ground. One can’t imagine more fearless fellows. They scarcely take cover. They flout death. I know, in any case, that our men are always glad to have Spaniards as neighbors in their sector.”

On the front, this is how they performed:

“The Blue Division (the Spanish) faced a major Soviet attempt to break the siege of Leningrad in February 1943, when the Soviet Army 55, reinvigorated after the epic victory at Stalingrad, attacked the Spanish positions at the Battle of Krasny Bor, near the main Moscow-Leningrad road. Despite heavy casualties, the Spaniards were able to hold their ground against a Russian force seven times larger and supported by tanks. The assault was contained and the siege of Leningrad was maintained for a further year. This victory established the reputation of the Blue Division with the German general staff.”

Later when Hitler considered an invasion of Spain to remove Franco and replace him with Agustín Muñoz Grandes he decided against it, saying “The
Spaniards are the only tough Latins.
I would have a guerrilla war in my rear.”

Also, right after attempting to force Spanish entry into the war, and failing, due to Franco’s refusal, Hitler remarked to Benito Mussolini, in reference to Franco, “I would rather have four of my own teeth pulled out than go through another meeting with that man again!”

That’s right, Franco stood up to Hitler, one on one, face to face, and outmaneuvered him, keeping Spain from being dragged into the European inferno. The Spaniards avoided the war not because their balls were small, but because their balls were big enough to say no to Hitler
and get away with it. Hitler blinked, the Spanish didn’t. Many other nations were unable to pull this off.

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Couple of thoughts-
What good is toe to toe machismo against the best and most effective technology?

If we looked at innovation and GDP one Country would shit can all others in the EU aka Germany.

FYI-my Grandpa was a history teacher and anthropological aficionado-would you believe some regions of Spain were interbred with the Germans since Roman times. In the dark ages they were mercenary mountain guerrilla warfare tribes who did raids. So. Id say the bad assness you see in Germans and Spaniards goes back to even before Rome. The small scale economy and heavy Catholicism plus good weather and agriculture are probably why Spain has not been as militant as other European Nations where its grey, cold, and smart middle aged white guys sit around brooding all day making new weapons and planning invasions.

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What good is toe to toe machismo against the best and most effective technology? Usually, not much, in WWI, the French thought “elan,” their fighting spirit, would
carry the day against German machine guns. They were wrong. Bullets from machine gun nests killed the bravest men the same as the more mediocre ones. Brave meat and mediocre meat was still meat to the meat grinder that was WWI. In WWII, some Japanese thought their
warrior ethos would result in them prevailing against American mass production and discipline. They were wrong. If the terrain is favorable, though, as in Vietnam and Afghanistan, a fighting spirit can prevail, but even then, the cost is terrible. Technology coupled
with discipline creates a potent fighting force, of that there is no doubt.

As far as fighting spirit, you’re right, the Spanish have Gothic, Frankish, and Moorish blood mixed in. However, almost every European people has been extremely
militant/aggressive at one point or another, each people taking turns at their moment in the sun. The Spanish conquered a large part of the world for “God, Gold, and Glory,” as well as a large part of Europe via the Habsburg lineage. Great Britain went even further
during the Pax Brittanica as part of “The White Man’s Burden.” France, under Napolean, conquered much of the Continent, as well as having dominions spread across the world. Germany, under Hitler, took nearly complete dominion of the Continent, albeit briefly. The
Italian peoples, via Rome (pre-Italian peoples, admittedly), conquered a large part of the Continent as well. The Russians via the Soviet Union controlled much of the Continent. The Nordic peoples were the terror
of Europe at one point as well, colonizing most of it and then merging with the natives of each location they arrived at.

These organized aggressive tendencies probably lie within all peoples (peoples that lack them probably just end up conquered and absorbed into those that don’t lack them). It seems nations/peoples cycle through periods of inward-focus and periods of explosive aggression. The Japanese, for example, were in
a period of inward-focus before Commodore Perry forced them out of it. They even made it illegal to have any contact with outsiders during their inward-focus period. They then had their period of explosive aggression, and now, they are in a period where they are very inwardly-focused again. The Germans were also explosively aggressive, and are also now very inward-focused. It seems to be cyclical.

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You’re from Spain not U.S.A. So you have no frame of reference in terms of marriage/family in U.S.A

Marriage is a contract where a man signs his assets & freedoms away to what is essentially a “Boss” & her muscle is the government. The government has taken away any advantages that used to exist to married couples. The government officially does not support family.

Men don’t fear commitment which is the common accusation. We just don’t want relationships with something that has become universally toxic.

The female mentality of marriage is the maximum mentality of greed & vindictiveness. Women are greedy & grasping. They have become educated about legal powers & have the malice to use them. Now more commonly you’ll see women refusing to take a man’s last name in marriage but are happy to take his money in divorce.

The reason the courts are so favoring to women in our so called “Male dominated society” is…money.

Women spend a whole hell of a lot more money than men do. She spends her own money, she spends her husbands money, she takes her husbands money in divorce & inherits his money when he dies.

Business & government depend on this net transfer of wealth of men to women & facilitate it in ways they can because it directly affects their bottom-line.
(Notice every evening that 70-75% of commercials you see on television are geared to women where only 8-10% are geared towards men.)

The difference in spending is why business will support any kind of measure that involves women getting ahold of more wealth from men. Women are the juicy cash-cows of business.

Business & government support any measure that allows money to be released from the hands of frugal, low spending males & into the hands of excessive high-spending females. It’s really that simple. That’s why the media celebrates women in divorce, that’s why divorce settlements are non-sensical. That’s why women are angels on television & movies even after the moral crimes they commit. That’s why the law (all though being drafted exclusively by men) is so anti-man.

Marriage is business not some “game of thrones tale” you are trying to make it all sound like.

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Roosh
If you were to recommend a Country where direct game is more appreciated in Europe, where would that be?

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Syria

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I am also reckoning all the war torn countries will be better for women who have seen shit, yet many women from there are still hot and have family values. ironically, they will be the future as the west succumbs.

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You could be the next Tony Robbins just mixed with a little David Irving, David Duke, and Fritz Springmeier-lol.

How about the smart guy makes money and lives in a flat with his EE 8 who’s 10-15 years his junior.

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As long as he doesn’t lose his money, and all those nice African, Mideastern and Latin men are available to subdue the near-constant sultry groin-ache of the EE 8, it should be good up until the day she buries him and collects his life insurance, or at least until she gets picked up by one of his wealthier associates.

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nah mun. girls from the “dry zone” (africa middle east india) their western born counter parts are hotter for some reason. plus they are only “traditionL” with their men. but will act like white women when with western men espucally white men..trust me.
even then they stick with their own group;those that do typically see us as bad mates and see us as lower value

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do you really wanna handle girls with ptsd . women are bad enough as it is. look how messed up soldeirs are whom are trained to handle it when they come back. plus something about gamin a refugee doesnt feel right

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Hi Johnny,

Your best bet would be Syria.

Hope it helps.

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Is that a prime spot for passive aggressive post-modern millennial innuendo?

For you, I can recommend Angola- those jungles are festive in the Spring.

Also, Brazils interior is cool because, the Amazon river is great for leisurely swims and general recreation too.

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Johnny,

Your writing is great.. keep it up haha

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For some reason I found this uplifting.

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I’m not going to pretend to know the answers here but why is it no one discuses Nations and cultures where white knighting is not epidemic and the women are reasonable aka places guys like us who love intl game could hit up that don’t have retarded American poosy on a pedalstool culture?

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What are you talking about? We discuss this shit all the time.. Have you not ready any posts about Poland, Ukraine, or Russia? There are a few of us who have significant experience with Eastern Europe (EE).. Some actually live there. There are a limited amount of countries now, that are actually still not westernized shit holes, full of progressive liberal feminists.. And no, don’t even mention Africa, or India.

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Honestly, nothing beats Croatia, Serbia or any of the other Balkan countries. Not even Poland and Ukraine. And I don’t think Roosh has been to any still.

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Uhhh pretty sure he has.. Where are you getting your information from? If you are referring to countries that lie within the Balkans, pretty sure Romania and Turkey are both on that list.. Secondly, have you been to Ukraine? You think Serbia is better than Ukraine? I have never been there, but I’m going to vote “No.” This depends on what you are referring to however, when you state that nothing “Beats any Balkan country.” I’m sure they are great, due to hot women, etc. However, it’s going to be more expensive than Ukraine, or Poland.. I can almost guarantee that.

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I was in Ukraine for a month and wasn’t that impressed. I almost shat my pants in Balkans daily. And I’m absolutely not counting Turkey. Been there as well, and it was the worst vacation of my lifetime More expensive possibly but I found Bosnia, Romania, and Croatia to be around the same as Eastern slavic countries.

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I will definitely check them out.. I’m actually planning on going to Bulgaria next year.. I have been wanting to check out Romania.. The women are beautiful.. The women may have been stunning, but how hard was it to spit game at them?

Also, what were you not impressed with in Ukraine? How the women looked? You must have gone somewhere up near Chernobyl man, where all the bitches are deformed. Roosh has stated that Kiev is off the hook with beautiful women.. Every place I have been to Ukraine, has been fucking crazy.. Even the border patrol women who checked the train looked like they were about to star in a porno, being filmed on the train.. I swear to God.

I speak Russain pretty well, hence the reason I stick to Russian speaking countries.. It helps boost my game SIGNIFICANTLY.. If you don’t speak Russian, you are fucked in a lot of places.. 50% of the girls, you won’t be able to communicate with.. The 2 girls my brother was banging, I had to constantly translate for.. It was great for practice, however, frustrating because people expect you to convey complex ideas.. I had to put a mother fucker in check a few times, and explain that this shit is difficult, trying to translate from English to Russian, and Russian to English.

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I was in Kiev the entire time. Frankly, I just wasn’t impressed. I literally saw 2’s for men walking around with supermodels in Bulgaria. Not even in eastern europe did I ever see that. I was going to keep it secret but I’m getting older and might as well let the cat out of the bag. Fuck it.

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Hence the reason you have to go off the beaten path.. Hordes of Brits will destroy these places, just like they did Krakow (So did other Euro dudes). Sunny Beach Bulgaria is a fucking cock fest also thanks to European guys.. If you go off the beaten path, these fuckers can’t go.. Due to the language barrier, plus the odds of getting fucked up go up significantly..

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Ya, the British fucks wrecked my beloved Poland after Roosh’s book. Those guys are hornier than American black guy’s. Holy shit. And they leave nothing in their wake. If they catch wind of a place with beautiful women, they will trash every city in that country like it’s WW3.

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Thats complete non-sense about Roosh’s books ruining a Country for love tourist readership of his. How many dudes actually go/year 50 maybe 100? So 100 guys doing 50 cold approaches and staying for two weeks ruins a massive Country like Poland??? Id say stag parties and thirsty Erasmus kids from the Mediterranean are more culpable than red pill guys with continual boners and cash for airline tickets. Pimps in Poland ought to be making bank off of Erasmus kids.

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It’s not Roosh ruining it.. The EURO CUP fucked over Poland and Western Ukraine (Lviv).. It has to do with publicity..

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BTW, I’m not shitting on you by any means.. I really have no experience with the Balkans.. I have heard great things about Croatia.. Pictures/Video look amazing, weather, etc. Maybe you have a vast amount of experience in regards to the Balkans.. Any information is appreciated.

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I honestly think Croatia would be the toughest place of all those countries as it’s a tourist factory because of all the coast. I was speaking of the other countries really. One of my good friends is Croatian and he left there. hahaha I’d look into the less ventured places like Slovenia, Bosnia, Albania, Montenego, etc. Everybody goes to Croatia. Ugh.

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Romania has got to be one of the best in the region. Personally I’ve never met an ugly Romanaian girl- they virtually all seem to be cute in the prime age range 18-26.

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Which Balkans City has the hardest partying night life? And best looking talent?

Is the weather in Croatia fairly decent all year (no brutal Winters)?

Which Balkans spot is the best bang for the buck for cost of living?

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ChimpGod, venerated on both the Dark Continent (at least the chimp) and Hindustan, why not to mention those?

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Oh the irony… You’ve painted an accurate picture of my current life.
Right now I’m sat at my office desk, writing emails, getting $4k/m and upset everytime I go out because I’m behind on my notch quota for this year! But on the other hand, like the other guy wrote I have the memories of my 25 country flags which always brings a smile to my face particularly as my friends are starting to settle down.
I’m hitting the gym and plotting my next offensive against beautiful foreigners

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Keep doing your thing.. remember, your “friends”, and family will always try to steer you in the wrong direction.. convincing you of how happy you will truly be if you settle down.. in reality, they just want you to be stuck like them, and have to suffer. Right now my friend, YOU are breaking all the rules.. and they can’t stand it.. they think it’s unfair that you aren’t following the norm as they did.. they sit there and cry “But.. but.. it’s not fair!” I work with about 800 people in law enforcement, and I can’t tell you how many live vicariously through me.. they all want to hear the stories I bring back from my adventures overseas.. When my friend told me how his fat ass wife talks to him, I was disgusted.. They were in bed the other night I guess, and the behemoth turned to him, and told him how much she hates him, and the only reason she stays married is for the kids..

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Cheers bud!

It’s true that when you speak of conquests/weekends to Co workers they all gaze daydreaming in the distance. I feel sorry for your friend, I suspect his only way out is to learn game and present his new 21 year old girl friend to his wife!

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Sadly, most of my co-workers choose suicide as a way out, due to their wife leaving them and taking 15 years of their retirement.. If they only had the knowledge we have, life could have been great for them.. I feel sorry for my friend too.. He is a great guy, but his children are ungrateful shit heads that also learn from their mother, and tell him how much they hate him..

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I always wondered if that community in Cali could be 420 as that (fuck-even homelessness would be better) is way way better than sticking a .40 Glock in your mouth cause life sucks at the moment. It would be better to sleep in a van (try to day game Mexican and Filipinos at the parks to your van) and eat off EBT cards than off yourself IMO.

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Post of the day-it just shows you how stuck and miserable so many Americans are. America sucks-advertise and market sexuality everywhere yet try to repress sexuality-we could all learn from cities like Hamburg or Berlin.

Also, regardless of the ethics-if prostitution was legalized and hot EE girls could be imported into brothels in every major city-you would see the price (and attached ego with it) of I-Phone, Ugg wearing, Cupcake store eating, white knight worshiped entitled American poons market value drop.

American poon is a highly overvalued. under funded liability-if they were a Company they’d be Enron (pos underneath but lots of hype and good press behind them to sell consumers an overpriced liability).

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if they were a Company they’d be Enron (pos underneath but lots of hype and good press behind them to sell consumers an overpriced liability).

Right on bud. Men need to spread the word and stop valueing these POS chubby chicks.

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Right on brother.. Biggest ponzi scheme ever.. They sell you the idea of the white picket fence.. The big home, with the happy little family.. It’s these ideas they sell you.. they feed off of what you have been brainwashed to believe. It’s fucking sad.. why can’t we all just do what makes us happy, without all the guilt?

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“the only reason she stays married is for the kids..” Rather common bile coming out the piehole of a landwhale, only good answer is: “There’s the door”.

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I’ve met men in assisted living facilities who can’t remember the names of their kids and grandchildren, but they fondly recall the names, places and experiences of particular women they slept with when they were younger.

It’s not the collecting of notches, it’s the significance of the experience.

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Good point.

I heard similar stories too.

Maybe those men are not ” just” collecting notches, but good memories and experiences that they will remember once old age reaches them.

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Agreed.. I think the reason they don’t remember the kids/grand children, is because that was the start of the rest of their days as a permanent beta.. for example, when you are having a dream with a hot girl, and you guys are having a great time, sex, etc. you wake up feeling great.. Like Roosh said.. “There is no better feeling than sticking your penis inside a new girl..”

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I’m a CNA (ethos check) and people at my work forget all kinds of shit. Sometimes they forget the names of their wives, sometimes that’s the only name they remember. That goes for names of friends, parents, children, etc. Also, regressive memory loss is very common, where the elderly lose their most recent memories first. Just saying, if the man sowed his wild oats before settling down, that’s most likely why he remembers those women more than his own family- they were simply in his life earlier. Soon time will ravage those lovely memories as well (old age is fucking depressing).
Not that there’s anything wrong with being a playboy or reflecting on it fondly, mind you. And doubtless there are men who detested their spouses and chose instead to dwell on happier times spent with other women. I’m just saying, assuming that these men somehow valued their wives or children less than their notches because of memory loss is probably false. I’ve seen firsthand there’s little rhyme or reason to the ramblings of the elderly and dying.
So, I guess just enjoy reliving your experiences while you’re still able to, everybody. Because when you get old, your brain will misfire and malfunction and you will forget all that ever held meaning for you, notches or family or breath taking moments or otherwise.

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I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think it’s about what memories are more “valuable” to an aging man, but rather which experiences had the most significant impression on his memory.

From an evolutionary perspective it would follow that opportunities to have sex would make a significant impression on a mans brain since it would be associated with his reproductive imperative.

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You are ruining it for us.. come on man.. Can’t we just believe that we will remember our best memories, which will be all the chicks we banged, and the fun we had? Not the shitty choices we made, and the path we took when we fucked up our lives? i.e. children, wife, etc.

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You sound depressed. I enjoy new bangs, making money, music, travel, doing things for family like buying my parents a house. I don’t waste time thinking oh woe is me. That’s mental illness or beta.

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Mabye once you are in the same place, if you banged too many girls and we’re forced to see the world with wisdom, you’d realise how humanity in the modern era is reduced to a piece of shit. In the meanwhile, you’ll just pay taxes so bankers can sponsor both terorrism and the military solution, as well as sponsoring things that promote your own genocide and enslavement. Eventually, you’ll be shat on because you live in fantasyland.

ALL the bankers men, all the thingy youths, all those who suffered in foreign lands from your taxation – they all surround you right now. So in 10 years time the only kind of action you’ll be getting is of the kind that is enforced upon you by all these diverse groups of people who outnumber you. And if you let it get that far, you deserve it.

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Sadly, it doesn’t get much better than this. Banging the hotties and traveling the world is awesome of course, but like anything you never truly find the answer to life and eventually get depressed about things. So it goes.

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This is so honest. Thanks for this.

Pierogi Power
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Roosh might be the first man alive to have gotten sick of pussy.

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One of my theories is that Roosh will disappear for a year and then release Gay Bang.

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Hahaha.. Jesus, that was good.. first good laugh of the day.. Kudos my friend.

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Everyone in California loves gay put on humor…If you did that in some East coast cities a brawl would break out. Its not hard for me to pick a place that has surfing tournaments, swap meets, and bands like the Deftones or A7x as opposed to hillbillies, Sopranos, G Unit, and Bureaucrat robots of the East Coast.

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I’m not a RooshV fanboy. But if you’re going to post stuff like that, you could at least have the balls to write your own name in there. Without that, you and all the people who up voted you come out looking way worse than he does.

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There are plenty of pussies on here, who won’t post their real name, picture, etc. They just talk shit from their mother’s basement, where they currently reside. They post in between doing raids on “World of Warcraft”…

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Wow. I mean wow. This was a post that was just stereotypical and just showed me that a big boot is going to be on your face in the future.

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I agree.. EE is one of the few bastions of good pussy left

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Ya, but I think Roosh can take a joke I hope. Especially considering his books are very comedic. Lastly, there is a slimmer of truth to it. I mean once you’ve slayed the hottest females, what is actually left? hmmmm

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It’s a sickness man.. We have poison in our balls, and bitches have the temporary cure..

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What about Paul Janka who is getting married. All the PUAs who made it big are getting sick of pussy. Mabye pussy is important, but not all it’s made out to be in our brainwashed society, and the experts know that which is why they are branching out to new things.

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If you find a girl, who is cool as fuck, sex is amazing, and has an amazing job where she earns as much as you, or better? Well.. It’s definitely something to consider.

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just pre-nup first though…

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I was talking about this with a friend of mine in Taiwan. Some dudes get so much pussy, that they get into deviant things. Small things at first (no pun intended) like anal, but then they might go on to fucking dudes, fucking animals, demanding to be fucked in the ass with dildos, and so on. It’s almost like Marquis DeSade’s “120 Days of Sodom”, where things became more and more degenerate and brutal as the story progressed.

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Speak for yourself man.. If you devolve into those sorts of things, you have bigger issues in life.

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Many guys get tired of pussy. Most of these guys have low sex drive. They think sex equals being a man, so they do something they really don’t enjoy.

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This is a long overdue article. Notch collecting is factor of two things. Low self esteem and to a lesser extent a youthful sex drive. An overactive sex drive will fix itself as a man gets older but the low self esteem is a giant problem and all the pussy in world will not help.

I suspect most notch collectors started out adulthood as sexual retards and once they learned how to get pussy they try to make up for wasted teenage/college years buy going absolutely pussy crazy. I have heard it a hundred times from seasoned notch collectors. “I never got laid in high school/college” followed with “I changed “x” or “y” and started getting laid”. This is fine but you were so late to the game and some of your best physical years already passed.

A notch collector judges his self-worth off his sexual acceptance by women. This guy may have screwed several hundreds of women but the quality is always suspect. Hundreds of 5’s with some 6’s? Yes, this is possible. Hundreds of 8’s and 9’s? I’m going to need to see some proof if that is the claim. Regardless of the quality he only does this to boost his low self esteem. This is why he must continue the charade. It is similar to an alcoholic that must have a little drink every so often or he falls apart. It all goes back to a man equating his manhood with the approval of a woman.

I’m glad to see this article. My biggest gripe in the red pill world is the idea that more sex is the answer.

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And to address the last statement in the article the notch collector and the selfie whore are the same thing. No different. They are both low self esteem people looking for opposite sex approval. Women are wired to require male approval. Men are not. Yet men have been feminized and reduced to women which is why the seek opposite sex approval above all else.

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This comment speaks volumes to me. I indulged myself in the pleasure of sex to make up for lost time as a high school and college lame, on top of the fact that I am a Black man that hates fat chicks and has Yellow Fever. This led to a lifetime of deprivation, but I was able to satiate my lust to a degree with travel to the Orient.

After getting a few nuts out of my system, I realize that I must do more with my life, but the pleasure of balls-deep action has done much to raise my morale to be able to do these things. Still, one of my personal goals is to have a body count of 100 North East Asian women, with at least one Chinese, one Taiwanese, one Korean, and one Japanese. I have all of the flags so far but Taiwanese, and I am about 20% of the way to my goal.

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What country in Asia did you stay?

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I was in Mainland China for the summer, and did a stint in Taiwan. I’ve also been to Japan a few times.

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If you don’t mind me asking. Was it significantly harder for you not being white(offense to no one)? I would like to think it was due to you having a certain look/style/vibe and great game. These American Koreans shut me down if I even give a hint of interest. The ones I didn’t but could have smashed were korean trash/sluts.

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Yes. It is much harder for Black men than it is for other races, especially White men, just about anywhere on earth, but particularly in East Asia (with the exception of the hip-hop clubs of Japan). If you have Yellow Fever as a Black man, then Japan is the place that you want to be, but it can be done in China too, and personally, I found more Chinese girls interested in me than Japanese girls, but that may be because I developed my mentality and body to be better than I was in China. If you are interested in Asian women, it might do you good to take a trip to Asia, but make sure that you are interested in more than just the women, just in case you strike out.

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GOOD LOOK’n out on the detailed info. Will be looking out for your future post. Not fully diagnosed(yellow fever) yet, but I wanna be in critical condition ha.

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Asian women are either really smoken hot or very unattractive. There is never any real middle-ground in my opinion. There are 3’s & 4’s … & then there are 7’s & 8’s. That’s what you get.
& also, I think Japanese are far better looking overall than Chinese. Good info, Admiral.

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I used to think that Japanese girls were much better looking, but these days, I find Chinese girls to be more attractive (although a bit lacking in the hygiene department at times). To me, Japanese girls on average are 6-7s, while Chinese girls have more outliers on either side. Most Asian women fall under the 4-8 range in my book, but to each their own. By the way, I’m talking about Northeast Asian women, and not including Thais, Filipinas, etc..

Cheers.

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I don’t know if I agree with it all being connected to low self esteem. Some of it really is seeing the absurdity of feminism and anti man hate of America and wanting to rebel wholeheartedly against it to keep things balanced in the world. The other thing is sex FEELS FUCKING GOOD!

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God dam man, i love you.

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Nope. Nothing more. No aspirations for political power. Just vapid achievement to relish at best. I give up.

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I’m tired of collecting notches.

Pussy gets old after a while. Even, new pussy.

I need a new drug.

Currently, what is bringing me happiness is “cleaning out” my
“conscious”, facing my inner demons, righting my past wrongs and just focusing on being a better person.

If we want to feel like we accomplished something, we must cultivate our Feeling Producing Machine, our mind.

You are the greatest “notch” that you can earn.

Gaming yourself is the most important game.

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You are right.. I agree.. chasing pussy will consume you, and that is fact. If you don’t better yourself, to where YOU make yourself happy, it will eat at you. However.. Bettering yourself to where you can obtain the pussy you always wanted, on top of what your personal goals are, why not have both? Have your cake, and eat it too.

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“Gaming yourself is the most important game.” Agreed. It’s only after we’ve achieved dominion over ourselves that we can go on to successfully exert dominion over things and people outside of ourselves.

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Speak for yourself roosh. There’s so much more opportunity for invention these days. And wtf? Have you ever been in a fulffilling long term relationship with a super high SMV girl? That is just as fulfilling if not more

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Guy.. Once again, Roosh has stated, “I would rather have a lot of bad pussy, than one good pussy..” It’s the thrill of the hunt, and sticking your dick inside new prospects. I’m assuming that a “longer term relationship” is not on his, To Do List. I’m just quoting from the source almighty (Roosh).

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Great article! I am on the same side. However, my sister has a kid and that is also something fantastic!

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Does your sister have a husband, too?

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Roosh, I’m with you on this one. I’m no longer interested in upping the notch count for its own sake and am pursuing deeper levels of interaction – control, if you will. That deeper game is much more interesting to me.

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I’m interested to know, from your observation, how the modern western man compares to the men of other cultures. Sounds obvious, but I’d think there exist more subtle differences based on perceived aims in life.

Blue Tropic
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Well pussy does get old. I haven’t got so much in my life and I’m still already feeling big diminishing returns compared to my first bangs/relationships.

I think the phrase that better explains the satisfaction of pussy is the one in Roosh’s poosy paradise: “Poosy is a strange thing because when you have it is just a distraction, but when you don’t everything else loses sense”.

So in the end it becomes more a necesity for us than a big satisfaction. I think making a family is the only thing that can ultimately fulfil you, because you share your life and not walk alone. Unfortunately, female nature and Western civilization make it a tough and risky thing.

I’d advocate on making a family in a traditional country(where man is respected) as a good thing to do with your life. Beta? Sure. But at least you got someone when you grow old and you have relatives in this world to care and stay alive for.

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yea because when you’re on your death bed you’ll need someone to bring you a pillow & a glass of water.

Blue Tropic
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You dont need to think that far. Assuming you live at least until 80 and get definitely tired of pick up at your 40s(most of us will at 30s as it’s quite repetitive), thats half life you will spend alone unless you do something about it.

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> the days of the solo inventor working in his personal laboratory are over

This is a goofy claim. There are more guys than ever breaking serious technical ground in solo or three man operations. They often get rich doing it, too. The tools and materials and software are so much better than even ten years. One guy with $10K can do what used to require a team and $2mm.

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THIS.

advancedatheist
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Only 200 notches? You should watch this scene from Mozart’s opera Don Giovanni:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gYKI3dVOTM

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Maybe just live a life of hedonism and then get a pure maiden to have a family with when you are older?

It’s not rocket surgery Roosh don’t get so jaded.