The Relationship Between Femininity & Education

Femininity is a quality that pleases men. Therefore from the chart we can deduce that educated women decrease a man’s happiness. A good test to see if a girl is over-educated is to add the word “sexy” before her job title. If the resulting phrase ignites arousing images in your head, then she’ll most likely have what it takes to satisfy you.

Boner Inducing
Sexy waitress
Sexy bartender
Sexy teacher
Sexy librarian
Sexy flight attendant
Sexy PR rep
Sexy actress

On the other hand…

Boner Softening
Sexy IT specialist
Sexy business manager
Sexy tort attorney
Sexy civil engineer
Sexy anesthesiologist
Sexy research associate
Sexy financial analyst

Anything beyond a bachelors at a public university is a near guarantee she’ll possess a large basket of masculine traits that will prevent boners. Unless you’re a latent homosexual, you won’t get many benefits from a relationship with a woman on the right side of the chart.[culturewar]

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The Private Man
9 years ago

While obviously simplified, there is much truth here.

bigxxx
bigxxx
9 years ago

agree with the private man

education goes up, femininity goes down…there are exceptions however

WhiteMonk
9 years ago

There is some truth here, but I’ve experienced too many exceptions to take it seriously.

I’ve known plenty of female bartenders and teachers who acted like men and always tried to be “one of the guys”.

My last girlfriend was a lawyer who wore skirts, stockings, and heels to work every day and acted like a feminine little girl when she wasn’t at work. Granted, she was foreign-born (Eastern Europe) so that probably had something to do with it.

My problem is that when it comes to serious dating, I cannot stand to be with a girl who isn’t intelligent. The typical waitress, teacher, dental hygenist just bores me to tears.

Lisa
Lisa
3 years ago
Reply to  WhiteMonk

And no doubt you want an intelligent woman so she can give you intelligent children. Kids’ IQs tend to fall BETWEEN those of the parents. If you marry “down”…beware!

Jamez
Jamez
9 years ago

Lucky cats and dogs don’t care about that stuff

Antoine
Antoine
9 years ago

I can agree with the trend of your first graph, but it has more to do with power related job than education. What about sociologists, anthropologists, linguists, psychologists, historians, even doctors ?

A woman seeking power will obviously have masculine traits.

And women with low power/authority will make a lot of men feel more masculine (strong, and more like his dad), reinforcing the effect.

But if you associate feminity with traditional gender roles, it’s a circular argument…

“Unless you’re a latent homosexual, you won’t get many benefits from a relationship with a woman on the right side of the chart.”

WTF. There are great benefits of dating a high IQ/education gf, like conversation, good manneers, money input, intelligent children, and rational arguments. Some may be masculine traits but they don’t make the bf an homosexual or a beta/loser.

I really feel like dumb chicks are boner inducing because they turn on the short term mating instincts in us, and they turn off the long term mating instinct.

You avoid the dissonnance of having to choose if she’s worth commitment, so you unconsciously can put all your energy in sex, so you feel they’re feminine.

I like my FBs not to be too smart, it flows easier and they are easier to frame, and my gfs the smartest as possible because i actually want to share some stuff with her. Am i that gay ?

Amal Thaon
Amal Thaon
5 years ago
Reply to  Antoine

Yes, I too require my potential brides to be extremely rich and have a cute maid; I don’t care how she got her millions, but inheritance in revocable trusts with UBS-Zurich is preferred. She must be willing to pick up all tabs, own a winter estate in the Caribbean, have a summer cottage in Newport, sail an Alden, expect me to drive her Maserati, and have enough cash on hand to buy a liquor store, a smoke shop, an auto dealership, and perhaps a football team. Belonging to a nudist colony for the blind a definite plus. Other than that, I’m just not fussy. What I am, actually, is the NEW MALE; the one who doesn’t mind if a woman wears shorts or slacks so long as she allows men to demand of women as much as women demand of men. (And if she mentions the word FEMINIST, she’s fuggin’ out on her ass, and I’ll get my own maid with the divorce settlement.) Wellesley graduates need not apply. PS: the names Tekla, Divinity, Tanya, Vaginia, and Zirconia are boner droop! Oh, and prenuptial agreement required (and I want the ring back since it was only on trial).

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Anonymous
Anonymous
9 years ago

@Antoine:

“Unless you’re a latent homosexual, you won’t get many benefits from a relationship with a woman on the right side of the chart.”

“WTF. There are great benefits of dating a high IQ/education gf, like conversation, good manneers, money input, intelligent children, and rational arguments. Some may be masculine traits but they don’t make the bf an homosexual or a beta/loser.”

This is *so* much bullshit.

Conversation? I get that from my friends. Like the fella said: smart and witty gets old, sweet and feminine never does.

Good manners? Bunk. You don’t need a 6-year degree or a 120+ IQ to possess basic courtesy and concern for others. In fact, there seems to be a inverse correlation between these things in the female of the species.

Money input? Fuck that. I make my own money, and the more focused chica is on her career, the less focused she will be on wife and mother responsibilities. (And if you’re not gonna marry her, her earning power isn’t relevant anyway.)

Intelligent children? Aspie kids, more like. Particularly in my case. Yep, for the good of my kids, I guess it’ll have to be sexy waitresses all the way. I’m all about the sacrifice.

Rational arguments? She’s still a chick, dude.

I speak from experience here … all my LTRs have been with high-IQ/advance-degreed girls. (Due to much of the same thinking you outline.) Having seen the error of my ways, I won’t be making that mistake again.

Jack
Jack
6 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I have never been with a girl who went to college (except this massage therapist named Kiki–who swore that The University of the Divine Meditation, Peace, and Love, changed her life.) So except for Kiki and her degree in advanced massage, I have never been with an “educated” girl.

Over the years, I have banged plenty of waitresses, hostesses, day care workers, retail workers, and even a chick that sold corn dogs at the mall. Guess what? They were all bangin hot.

My brother used to laugh at me about all of the “low brow” girls I would date. What is funny is his wife, the nurse, with her college degree was banging everything in sight. She ended up getting pregnant by a doctor she worked with, my brother thought it was his, and raised the child for 3 years.

My brother had no idea that there were problems in his marriage (even though I would see her out with other men on occasion and tell him.) One day she came home and told him that he had made her fall out of love and she was moving in with a “friend.”

As it turned out the “friend” was someone she had been sleeping with for at least a year, who had just recieved a considerably insurance settlement, my brothers wife had found someone who could take care of her and the bastard child better.

When his wife told him that she was leaving, my brother protested that she couldnt just take off with the kid. She pulled out some papers from her lawyer and “served” him right there. In the papers was a declaration stating that the baby he had believed was his, was actually someone elses so she was free to leave with it.

About 1 1/2 years later she left the guy with the settlement for an anesthesiologist she works with. I hope he has a prenup.

T-money
T-money
4 years ago
Reply to  Jack

sounds typical.

Ketsune
Ketsune
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I know that my comment is severely belated, I just encountered this article and I have one question-

If let’s assume that what you’re looking for in life is marriage and a long-term commitment from a beautiful, loyal and feminine woman (so we’re not talking about one-night stands or such, where you’d likely be less selective on the girl’s feminine traits), how would you meet up such a feminine and less-educated girl?

And have you (because I, personally, NEVER have) ever met, or known, a high-powered man with a serious career who makes enough money to support a decent household in this economy, who married a waitress? Or a supermarket cashier? Or a cleaning lady?

The article might be right in the biological sense of the point, but is impossible to transplant into the reality of our world.
Worthy, high-quality men who make enough money via legal means to support a family (two adults + several children) do not marry or enter into long-term commitments with Denny’s waitresses, Hooters girls or janitors.

They tend to pick up women at family reunions (one percenters, Ivy League alumni, etc.), swanky places in large cities (expensive bars, restaurants, clubs, etc.), friends’ venues and events, etc. I haven’t heard of a man driving around in his expensive car looking for meeting up with a waitress from the city outskirts’ Greasy Fork diner.

The higher the position of the male, the higher his living standards, social circle, choices, education, lifestyle patterns, etc.
The only places he can interact with a low-class so to speak woman would be at the gym, or online.

However this is part 2 of the whole issue- rich, powerful men (those who deserve to get the sexy, leggy beautiful ‘good’ girls) don’t marry cleaners or babysitters. I have never heard of someone who’d ever do this.

Gmac
9 years ago

Haha brilliant graph, I couldn’t have said it better myself. I guess this is the reason I always find myself hooking up with struggling artist/waitress/bartender/media types.

You could also say the level of education correlates with a woman’s expectations. In my experience, waitresses and secretaries won’t care if you take them out for drinks or fast casual dining; whereas lawyers and managers often have much more expensive tastes (at least here in the feminist cesspool that is DC). Of course, there are always exceptions to every rule.

Gmac

Remy Gibson
9 years ago

Hits home, but there are outliers. Is it permissible, in Rooshonomics, to treat/game these outliers in the upper right quadrant a little higher, or is a pussy still just a pussy?

Remy Gibson
9 years ago

@WhiteMonk I find that there’s little difference between a girl who’s intelligent and a girl who is fascinated by your intelligence.

Tim
Tim
9 years ago

Truth. i should also add that this also stems from the fact that people tend not to take women displaying feminine traits very seriously. they need to be masculine in order to properly teach students or yield authority in an office. thus, they’ve taught themselves to be masculine.

Gmac
9 years ago

“Money input? Fuck that. I make my own money, and the more focused chica is on her career, the less focused she will be on wife and mother responsibilities. (And if you’re not gonna marry her, her earning power isn’t relevant anyway.)”

I’m cheap, so I’m always looking for a way to be more frugal. If you’re not marrying her, why would you want to spend more cash?

One reason I date the right types are because I know they’ll be willing to pay 50% or more during a date — Otherwise I don’t waste my time. You basically DHV by “allowing” them to pay… thank feminists for today’s “independent woman.”

I’ve found that the right types are just as willing (if not more so) to become FB status in their late 20s. Since they have such little time to go out while they are focused on their careers they will jump into a casual relationship pretty quickly, regardless of your social/income status. Great way to save some cash.

It’s also a good way to pick up some extra material perks while you’re banging your sexier, feminine, 23 year old waitress on the side. Right now I’m getting regular tickets to concerts and sporting events and spend less than I would otherwise.

Tim
Tim
9 years ago

I agree with your chart Roosh, but sexy college professor works for me. You should see my Spanish professor. Just want to bend her over the desk every time I have class. But, I get what you are talking about. Would you rather sit through a convo with a waitress who talks about “Jersey Shore” or a lawyer who talks about torts and habeus corpus….whatever that is.

samseau
samseau
9 years ago

Excellent observation Remy. The girls I got along best enjoy my intelligence, but only 1/3 of them had anything close to actual intelligence themselves. Never even realized that.

The G Manifesto
9 years ago

“there are exceptions however”

Here is a big one: Nurse

– MPM

RED TIDE
RED TIDE
9 years ago

What if they are ASIAN or INDIAN WOMEN?

They can be hyper-educated and feminine.

Don Lun
Don Lun
4 years ago
Reply to  RED TIDE

I definitely agree with this

Anonymous
Anonymous
9 years ago

Roosh, I see you’ve yet to go to eastern-europe. That chart is only correct for north-america.

Brian
Brian
9 years ago

Interesting chart Roosh. There are also variables in “education” and “career” (that are usually for money/power/status, and the “education” is not for a passion for the subject) such as, time (spending time sitting), weight (increasing), age (getting older), and thus as she gradually loses touch with her true feminine nature her interest in sex decreases. It would be better if there was education for girls to teach them to be feminine/dress sexy/how to give blow jobs/and sex techniques. I read another author who said that many women (even the few who seem sweet) can get married and then turn to use the marriage legal system to divorce and financially destroy men. The author hired a woman who did not have much money and had urgent bills to pay because she was more likely to stay and not leave just because she had many other options. This author also said (as is a variable in this chart here) that as her income increases she has more options (with more money she can be more selective to select higher status men, be more demanding/controlling, seek her agenda of a wedding for her/her house/and materialistic things for her, and then pay legal fees to lawyers to take at least half of whatever the man has). Thus, the intent of these women is not to be feminine women who enjoy mutual sexual pleasure to satisfy men, their intent is to get the education/career and as a result these women may not know what they have lost.

Rakishness
Rakishness
9 years ago

Great post! You learn this by living in the DC area for a few years. It’s almost like career women don’t have any hormones. Same thing goes for women in grad school.

VI
VI
9 years ago

education goes up, femininity goes down…there are exceptions however

The problem is that most masculine chicks with gigantic clitdicks think they are the exception.

Adventure21c
Adventure21c
9 years ago

We do need more educated and masculine and sexually unattractive women in the society.

So many men are sissy and getting sissified, especially in this day and age, somebody ought to do the job of whipping them good and real good.

Who, other than the female bosses, accept the wussy men? Female VPs, managers, and project leads FTW.

I’ll be busy dealing with the real men and the real women.

Athlone McGinnis
Athlone McGinnis
9 years ago

Like others have said, this chart has some merit but applies most strongly in the United States. Leave the US and you can find plenty of hyper-feminine women who are highly educated.
Such women exist in the USA as well, but they are the exception.

Jordan
Jordan
9 years ago

Roosh you’re awesome! This is another great post with so much truth.

mr t
mr t
9 years ago

All hail the Rooshman!

Great post. Too true, unfortunately.

j r
j r
9 years ago

Should that plot really be a straight line? That would imply that white trash/ghetto high school dropouts would be the the sexiest and most feminine of all women.