The Relationship Between Femininity & Education

Femininity is a quality that pleases men. Therefore from the chart we can deduce that educated women decrease a man’s happiness. A good test to see if a girl is over-educated is to add the word “sexy” before her job title. If the resulting phrase ignites arousing images in your head, then she’ll most likely have what it takes to satisfy you.

Boner Inducing
Sexy waitress
Sexy bartender
Sexy teacher
Sexy librarian
Sexy flight attendant
Sexy PR rep
Sexy actress

On the other hand…

Boner Softening
Sexy IT specialist
Sexy business manager
Sexy tort attorney
Sexy civil engineer
Sexy anesthesiologist
Sexy research associate
Sexy financial analyst

Anything beyond a bachelors at a public university is a near guarantee she’ll possess a large basket of masculine traits that will prevent boners. Unless you’re a latent homosexual, you won’t get many benefits from a relationship with a woman on the right side of the chart.

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The Private Man
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While obviously simplified, there is much truth here.

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agree with the private man

education goes up, femininity goes down…there are exceptions however

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There is some truth here, but I’ve experienced too many exceptions to take it seriously.

I’ve known plenty of female bartenders and teachers who acted like men and always tried to be “one of the guys”.

My last girlfriend was a lawyer who wore skirts, stockings, and heels to work every day and acted like a feminine little girl when she wasn’t at work. Granted, she was foreign-born (Eastern Europe) so that probably had something to do with it.

My problem is that when it comes to serious dating, I cannot stand to be with a girl who isn’t intelligent. The typical waitress, teacher, dental hygenist just bores me to tears.

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And no doubt you want an intelligent woman so she can give you intelligent children. Kids’ IQs tend to fall BETWEEN those of the parents. If you marry “down”…beware!

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Lucky cats and dogs don’t care about that stuff

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I can agree with the trend of your first graph, but it has more to do with power related job than education. What about sociologists, anthropologists, linguists, psychologists, historians, even doctors ?

A woman seeking power will obviously have masculine traits.

And women with low power/authority will make a lot of men feel more masculine (strong, and more like his dad), reinforcing the effect.

But if you associate feminity with traditional gender roles, it’s a circular argument…

“Unless you’re a latent homosexual, you won’t get many benefits from a relationship with a woman on the right side of the chart.”

WTF. There are great benefits of dating a high IQ/education gf, like conversation, good manneers, money input, intelligent children, and rational arguments. Some may be masculine traits but they don’t make the bf an homosexual or a beta/loser.

I really feel like dumb chicks are boner inducing because they turn on the short term mating instincts in us, and they turn off the long term mating instinct.

You avoid the dissonnance of having to choose if she’s worth commitment, so you unconsciously can put all your energy in sex, so you feel they’re feminine.

I like my FBs not to be too smart, it flows easier and they are easier to frame, and my gfs the smartest as possible because i actually want to share some stuff with her. Am i that gay ?

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Yes, I too require my potential brides to be extremely rich and have a cute maid; I don’t care how she got her millions, but inheritance in revocable trusts with UBS-Zurich is preferred. She must be willing to pick up all tabs, own a winter estate in the Caribbean, have a summer cottage in Newport, sail an Alden, expect me to drive her Maserati, and have enough cash on hand to buy a liquor store, a smoke shop, an auto dealership, and perhaps a football team. Belonging to a nudist colony for the blind a definite plus. Other than that, I’m just not fussy. What I am, actually, is the NEW MALE; the one who doesn’t mind if a woman wears shorts or slacks so long as she allows men to demand of women as much as women demand of men. (And if she mentions the word FEMINIST, she’s fuggin’ out on her ass, and I’ll get my own maid with the divorce settlement.) Wellesley graduates need not apply. PS: the names Tekla, Divinity, Tanya, Vaginia, and Zirconia are boner droop! Oh, and prenuptial agreement required (and I want the ring back since it was only on trial).

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@Antoine:

“Unless you’re a latent homosexual, you won’t get many benefits from a relationship with a woman on the right side of the chart.”

“WTF. There are great benefits of dating a high IQ/education gf, like conversation, good manneers, money input, intelligent children, and rational arguments. Some may be masculine traits but they don’t make the bf an homosexual or a beta/loser.”

This is *so* much bullshit.

Conversation? I get that from my friends. Like the fella said: smart and witty gets old, sweet and feminine never does.

Good manners? Bunk. You don’t need a 6-year degree or a 120+ IQ to possess basic courtesy and concern for others. In fact, there seems to be a inverse correlation between these things in the female of the species.

Money input? Fuck that. I make my own money, and the more focused chica is on her career, the less focused she will be on wife and mother responsibilities. (And if you’re not gonna marry her, her earning power isn’t relevant anyway.)

Intelligent children? Aspie kids, more like. Particularly in my case. Yep, for the good of my kids, I guess it’ll have to be sexy waitresses all the way. I’m all about the sacrifice.

Rational arguments? She’s still a chick, dude.

I speak from experience here … all my LTRs have been with high-IQ/advance-degreed girls. (Due to much of the same thinking you outline.) Having seen the error of my ways, I won’t be making that mistake again.

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I have never been with a girl who went to college (except this massage therapist named Kiki–who swore that The University of the Divine Meditation, Peace, and Love, changed her life.) So except for Kiki and her degree in advanced massage, I have never been with an “educated” girl.

Over the years, I have banged plenty of waitresses, hostesses, day care workers, retail workers, and even a chick that sold corn dogs at the mall. Guess what? They were all bangin hot.

My brother used to laugh at me about all of the “low brow” girls I would date. What is funny is his wife, the nurse, with her college degree was banging everything in sight. She ended up getting pregnant by a doctor she worked with, my brother thought it was his, and raised the child for 3 years.

My brother had no idea that there were problems in his marriage (even though I would see her out with other men on occasion and tell him.) One day she came home and told him that he had made her fall out of love and she was moving in with a “friend.”

As it turned out the “friend” was someone she had been sleeping with for at least a year, who had just recieved a considerably insurance settlement, my brothers wife had found someone who could take care of her and the bastard child better.

When his wife told him that she was leaving, my brother protested that she couldnt just take off with the kid. She pulled out some papers from her lawyer and “served” him right there. In the papers was a declaration stating that the baby he had believed was his, was actually someone elses so she was free to leave with it.

About 1 1/2 years later she left the guy with the settlement for an anesthesiologist she works with. I hope he has a prenup.

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sounds typical.

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I know that my comment is severely belated, I just encountered this article and I have one question-

If let’s assume that what you’re looking for in life is marriage and a long-term commitment from a beautiful, loyal and feminine woman (so we’re not talking about one-night stands or such, where you’d likely be less selective on the girl’s feminine traits), how would you meet up such a feminine and less-educated girl?

And have you (because I, personally, NEVER have) ever met, or known, a high-powered man with a serious career who makes enough money to support a decent household in this economy, who married a waitress? Or a supermarket cashier? Or a cleaning lady?

The article might be right in the biological sense of the point, but is impossible to transplant into the reality of our world.
Worthy, high-quality men who make enough money via legal means to support a family (two adults + several children) do not marry or enter into long-term commitments with Denny’s waitresses, Hooters girls or janitors.

They tend to pick up women at family reunions (one percenters, Ivy League alumni, etc.), swanky places in large cities (expensive bars, restaurants, clubs, etc.), friends’ venues and events, etc. I haven’t heard of a man driving around in his expensive car looking for meeting up with a waitress from the city outskirts’ Greasy Fork diner.

The higher the position of the male, the higher his living standards, social circle, choices, education, lifestyle patterns, etc.
The only places he can interact with a low-class so to speak woman would be at the gym, or online.

However this is part 2 of the whole issue- rich, powerful men (those who deserve to get the sexy, leggy beautiful ‘good’ girls) don’t marry cleaners or babysitters. I have never heard of someone who’d ever do this.

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Haha brilliant graph, I couldn’t have said it better myself. I guess this is the reason I always find myself hooking up with struggling artist/waitress/bartender/media types.

You could also say the level of education correlates with a woman’s expectations. In my experience, waitresses and secretaries won’t care if you take them out for drinks or fast casual dining; whereas lawyers and managers often have much more expensive tastes (at least here in the feminist cesspool that is DC). Of course, there are always exceptions to every rule.

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Remy Gibson
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Hits home, but there are outliers. Is it permissible, in Rooshonomics, to treat/game these outliers in the upper right quadrant a little higher, or is a pussy still just a pussy?

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@WhiteMonk I find that there’s little difference between a girl who’s intelligent and a girl who is fascinated by your intelligence.

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Truth. i should also add that this also stems from the fact that people tend not to take women displaying feminine traits very seriously. they need to be masculine in order to properly teach students or yield authority in an office. thus, they’ve taught themselves to be masculine.

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“Money input? Fuck that. I make my own money, and the more focused chica is on her career, the less focused she will be on wife and mother responsibilities. (And if you’re not gonna marry her, her earning power isn’t relevant anyway.)”

I’m cheap, so I’m always looking for a way to be more frugal. If you’re not marrying her, why would you want to spend more cash?

One reason I date the right types are because I know they’ll be willing to pay 50% or more during a date — Otherwise I don’t waste my time. You basically DHV by “allowing” them to pay… thank feminists for today’s “independent woman.”

I’ve found that the right types are just as willing (if not more so) to become FB status in their late 20s. Since they have such little time to go out while they are focused on their careers they will jump into a casual relationship pretty quickly, regardless of your social/income status. Great way to save some cash.

It’s also a good way to pick up some extra material perks while you’re banging your sexier, feminine, 23 year old waitress on the side. Right now I’m getting regular tickets to concerts and sporting events and spend less than I would otherwise.

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I agree with your chart Roosh, but sexy college professor works for me. You should see my Spanish professor. Just want to bend her over the desk every time I have class. But, I get what you are talking about. Would you rather sit through a convo with a waitress who talks about “Jersey Shore” or a lawyer who talks about torts and habeus corpus….whatever that is.

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Excellent observation Remy. The girls I got along best enjoy my intelligence, but only 1/3 of them had anything close to actual intelligence themselves. Never even realized that.

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“there are exceptions however”

Here is a big one: Nurse

– MPM

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What if they are ASIAN or INDIAN WOMEN?

They can be hyper-educated and feminine.

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I definitely agree with this

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Roosh, I see you’ve yet to go to eastern-europe. That chart is only correct for north-america.

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Interesting chart Roosh. There are also variables in “education” and “career” (that are usually for money/power/status, and the “education” is not for a passion for the subject) such as, time (spending time sitting), weight (increasing), age (getting older), and thus as she gradually loses touch with her true feminine nature her interest in sex decreases. It would be better if there was education for girls to teach them to be feminine/dress sexy/how to give blow jobs/and sex techniques. I read another author who said that many women (even the few who seem sweet) can get married and then turn to use the marriage legal system to divorce and financially destroy men. The author hired a woman who did not have much money and had urgent bills to pay because she was more likely to stay and not leave just because she had many other options. This author also said (as is a variable in this chart here) that as her income increases she has more options (with more money she can be more selective to select higher status men, be more demanding/controlling, seek her agenda of a wedding for her/her house/and materialistic things for her, and then pay legal fees to lawyers to take at least half of whatever the man has). Thus, the intent of these women is not to be feminine women who enjoy mutual sexual pleasure to satisfy men, their intent is to get the education/career and as a result these women may not know what they have lost.

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Great post! You learn this by living in the DC area for a few years. It’s almost like career women don’t have any hormones. Same thing goes for women in grad school.

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education goes up, femininity goes down…there are exceptions however

The problem is that most masculine chicks with gigantic clitdicks think they are the exception.

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We do need more educated and masculine and sexually unattractive women in the society.

So many men are sissy and getting sissified, especially in this day and age, somebody ought to do the job of whipping them good and real good.

Who, other than the female bosses, accept the wussy men? Female VPs, managers, and project leads FTW.

I’ll be busy dealing with the real men and the real women.

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Like others have said, this chart has some merit but applies most strongly in the United States. Leave the US and you can find plenty of hyper-feminine women who are highly educated.
Such women exist in the USA as well, but they are the exception.

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Roosh you’re awesome! This is another great post with so much truth.

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All hail the Rooshman!

Great post. Too true, unfortunately.

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Should that plot really be a straight line? That would imply that white trash/ghetto high school dropouts would be the the sexiest and most feminine of all women.

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There really is no correlation between education/profession and the ability of a woman to hold a conversation of any depth, or express any kind of rationality away from her job. I know plenty of professional women with advanced degrees, in their 30s. And you know what they talk about when they’re together? Nonsense. Pop- culture bullshit, like who’s fucking who, who broke up/divorced who, and that kind of foolishness. The fellas, who though are college grads but don’t hold traditional status jobs (they work in various capacities in music and film – only one of us has an advanced degree and works in the financial sector) discuss sports like most guys do, but also whatever world and national matters that are in the news. We have lengthy conversations on Facebook over articles on a variety of subjects, from politics to science, with some of them amassing over 50 comments. Not a single woman chimes in. Not one. A couple of them are in relationships, and some married, but most of them are single and haven’t been in a relationship, or even had dates in years. And from some of the comments they post, I can see why. In person, they’re argumentative and petty. One friend, who was a film editor that now has gotten into modeling, goes on lots of dates (and goes on facebook to destroy them afterwards, usually for needy/beta-type behavior…HA HA!). While some of the woman in my circle are ATTRACTIVE, they don’t exude SEXINESS. Sometimes the more educated or professionally accomplished a woman is, the more competitive or combative she becomes with men, making every interaction some type of battle of will or intellect when it’s unnecessary or there is little to gain. Instead of enjoying your company, they spend too much time trying to break you down.

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The independent female lawyers/doctors/models can go ahead and show how big their muscles are. The best shot they have is a guy with a small education and low intelligence.

I mean afterall, isn’t your significant other supposively your ‘better half’?

I know a girl who’s going to medical school next year to become a doctor. She is REALLY uptight when it comes to guys rejecting her. It pisses her off so much that she X’s them out. She bitched to me and her friend about her Ex, bought me a few drinks even though I didn’t want her to, then wanted me to stay over at her place for the night since I was feeling like shit.
FUCK NO! I ran.

Assanova even states that a girl who’s career-focused will always be too bitchy/tired when you’re in the mood for sex. She won’t be focused on the relationship like she should be.

Independent Man + Dependent girl = best bet.

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This is actually hilarious. I’m a 23 year old grad student studying international relations and had to sit through a research proposal by this frumpy, unattractive self proclaimed “feminist” who was trying to make a case that “gender theory” had a significant role in Russia’s relations with the Ukraine. When I piped up and said this was nothing but a load of sweet and utter horseshit her ideas were I was attacked by six girls all at the same time including a prof who was in the room. Unsurprisingly the betas in my class sat there laughing nervously and one of them came up to me after to tell me he agreed with me but didn’t want to “face the wrath” of the other girls.. No wonder I always end up picking up 20 year old undergrads. Guys if you meet a female grad student run in the opposite fucking direction.

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Yes, Nietsche said the same thing.

“A woman who pursues academic events has something wroong with her sexuality.”

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How bout sexy social worker? That’s alwasys a good one. Blegh

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I think you’re psyching yourself out here, Roosh.
Three posts ago you had the boner test. Follow your boner and don’t worry about semantics (OMG, she’s an anesthesiologist!)
I’m not a latent, or even full-blown homo, and I love screwing the types of women you don’t, or can’t, crack. The concept of “game” can give and take, what your left with is your essence.

Kind of a beta article

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@G Manifesto – Nurse fits the schema, it’s a 2 yr associates degree to RN in the USA. Even higher degree nurses are not intellectual…at all.

I think this post has a lot of truth in it…

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Nurse would be in the middle of the graph anyway.

As for conversation, chicks always like the gossip anyway, but SOME smart girls can have their gossip with their friends, and share interesting stuff with you. And while there will always be some testing and irrational arguments, that you’ll deal with using game, some chicks can keep themselves more in control than others and spare you some headaches. And IMO the best bet is a smart girl for this.

I don’t think intelligent girls are globally better, but if I’m looking for the uniquest girl, that’s where i’m going to look.

The thing is for a LTR you need someone that understands and share a good part of your values, so she needs at least to understand them.
If your only status comes from the fact you can play alpha game, she’ll find someone more alpha eventually.
I can’t compete in raw alphaness with the coolest asshole of the club, and i’m very bored at the idea to even try. But within my values i’m confident i’m the best in the world, so my best bet is a girl that has the ability to get it, my best bet is not to spit game on over-oestrogenized hairdressers that may leave me for a sexy gardener because his brother knows Usher personaly.

For most chicks, smart is boring, even though they like a little wit. Why should i shoot myself in the feet by downplaying what can be a great asset to a smarter girl?

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I dunno guys, I’ve seen a few sexy professors out there. More likely to be teaching in humanities or lit though rather than sciences or business.

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I think taht in alot of cases it is even easier to get with the smart and educated chicks -they know what they want and just because they present a challenge does not mean that they arent hot.

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You forgot:

sexy bus driver
sexy nurse’s aid
sexy prison guard
sexy convenience store clerk
sexy WNBA player
sexy queer activist.

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Colony of douches right here. Douches led by douches to inspire them to do the same douchey things that douches have done since the dawn of time, but these douches instead think they’ve thought of some Douche Holy Grail.

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oh, you guys are into PUA and the whole alpha/beta drivel. lol no wonder.

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This is so pathetic. Why would any woman want to date a guy who is intimidated by her intelligence or education level? You pretend it’s not fear or hide behind being traditional, but it’s bullshit. No woman worth her salt would ever want to date a guy as easily neutered as you.

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Mike the moron:

Why would any woman want to date a guy who is intimidated by her intelligence or education level?

Intimidation? lol

No, we’re just not impressed or attracted by it. And women who focus on such things become less feminine—less sexually attractive.

But keeping wearing your prostethic vagina, weakling.

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The graph might be accurate in some large urban areas in western countries. It might also be accurate in Latin America where women who can afford it are encourage to be silly and flighty and inconsequential.

It doesn’t work with Eastern Europe, though Roosh will probably be disappointed with Eastern European women who don’t go around wearing a lot of make up or especially dressed up (except for special occasions).
The women that do spend a lot of time and effort on daily appearance and who might seem to more feminine are less educated but also have a more masculine personalities in some ways (as in cutthroat materialism) than the more educated girls who dress a little frumpily.

My guess is that the three on the right in this picture

http://pattayamail.com/755/pictures/home-Czech-models.jpg

have less feminine personalities than the university students in this picture

http://www.britishcouncil.org/group_3_year_climate_advocates.jpg

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While part of me agrees with this chart, I gotta say that this correlation comes from an inflated sense of entitlement.

Look at the much publicized issue of “educated black women can’t find a man”. Because while they will sleep with a thug their ego wont allow them to settle down with one.

So all these educated girls think they deserve a man with means and will aggressively try to screen for him, but this aggressiveness makes them look silly, entitled, and unattractive (especially the older they get – the aggressiveness gets turned up by the drying eggs). I mean it just gets bad, and no wonder the high status guys they chase look past them – noone wants to be with the kind of girl whose goal in life is the New York Times wedding section.

Here are some ridiculous entitlement examples. first – on my blog from a match.com profile i found – http://kidstrangelove.wordpress.com/2010/11/01/a-quick-snapshot-of-internet-dating/ – basically this girl wants a wallet with height.

2nd – saw this on reddit, some suburban mom is upset her kids aren’t getting name brand cookies – http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li2hssp7zU1qz5tgbo1_500.jpg

To be honest, I feel incredibly lucky right now. I just recently entered a relationship with this girl who noone has anything bad to say about. She is incredibly caring and feminine, she is beautiful, when my dog died 2 weeks ago she immediately came over to comfort me, she can cook, she is getting her PHD in Biology so she is incredibly booksmart, yet instead of science she wants to help the fight against world hunger once she is out of school, and she gets my nerd side going by liking cartoons and video games. She is pretty much everything I want in a girlfriend

you probably guessed already that she is not American. She is French lol

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@ Unsexy Fat Middle Manager

You are correct madam. Douches go up inside the pussy on a regular basis, and so do we.

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I used to think I loved intelligent women, but after years of dating them I could no longer deny the ugly truth. Women just ain’t that smart. Some of them are book smart. Some of them can memorize stuff. But when you get down to actual creative intelligence – the ability to generate NEW ideas rather than just regurgitating other people’s ideas, you find VERY few women capable of that. The same way hardly any women have the sense of humor to be funny. The problem is that you have a bunch of women running around who THINK they are smart because of their degrees or job titles, and they love to lord that over everyone’s heads. In reality they are good parrots but they are not intelligent in the true sense at all. They become insufferable due to their overblown egos, and you are still left with having to hang with other guys if you want smart conversations.

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this is gospel. another thing to consider: the correlation between a woman’s education and her happiness. also the same graph only the y axis is “happiness”

@ bateman. the same things are happening in my college classes. whenever i say something like “what is feminism, we should speak of feminisms”
“women are 52% of the population, we should not treat them as a minority group”
“the domestic violence campaign in america is exaggerated”
“women have had the equality of opportunity to vote and pursue employment for coming up on a century. why are we still bending over backwards to encourage equality of result?”
“should there really be female astronauts, soldiers etc.”
all the girls including the professor jump on my dick screaming. don’t back down. they are lying to you even at the college level.

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I can see a lot of internet hate running with this one without taking a hot sec to think it over.

I agree with this chart on a surface level, the more educated a woman is, the higher-level her job, the more masculine traits she takes on, the more ego she can potentially jump ship with, the more manly she becomes…sometimes enough to change her from a woman ‘woman’ to somewhere middle ground. I also tend to find aspects of David Deida true in this regard, that some of these women are still very capable of being feminine, but during the daylight hours they take on masculine shells, when they come home they are fully capable of being a feminine woman and hanging that masculinity at the door. (this also depends because some women are just masculine and date effeminate men….vice versa). I dated a girl who was in charge of a legit homeless shelter, had a degree, incredibly book smart, sexy as hell and in some ways I think it was a battle for her to take on the traits of a leader at work, she was the one at the top of the mountain, responsible for keeping the operation running, had to be take charge, direct everyone, take on all the stress…but then later with me she was utterly and completely feminine (which flipped all my switches), but if you saw her at work doing her thing, you wouldn’t have any idea.

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guys. the topic/concept is simplified but there is a correlation to it. additionally I found a study saying “The ambitious/gifted think a lot and a do “it” less. The invest in studying rather than having Sex”. This is a German Study I guess but could basically apply to every country I guess. Secondly this Study makes no fem/mal distinction. So 2 academics people have less sex than 2 people being a fem and a male bartender:-)

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Roosh must be doing something right if he is getting this much hate from the feminazis. Only problem is he now going to have even more trolls to deal with on the blog and forum.

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I also think we relate intelligence too closely with education. As Begby stated, a woman might be knowledgeable in her field of endeavor or interest, but not much beyond that. And yes, there’s a lot of entitlement attached to those degrees women hold.

@Kid Strangelove…recently I watched a documentary on HBO titled “When Strangers Click: Five Stories from the Internet,” which profiled couples and how they met on the internet. One of the guys profiled was on 5′ tall. No kidding. They showed him walking around the city, and you saw how his height contrasted with normal adults, and was a straight-up munchkin. He said he was able to hide his lack of height on the internet until he found someone he clicked with (he actually married and had a child with the woman he met). After each segment, they run some factoids about internet dating. After this segment, they posted a statistic that stated for EVERY inch under 5’10” a man must earn an additional $40,000 to be viewed as favorably as their taller counterparts. I don’t doubt this. I had an acquaintence that herself was all of 5′ tall. She raved about this blind date she had been on, however there was a BUT. The guy was only 5’4″, making him about right for her. Nope. He had to be taller.

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I don’t get why more women are going to school for higher degrees. If you want to have a healthy kid, you should have it by 28. Then you should spend several years with it. Let’s go back a few years: you went to school until you were ~24, maybe you got a relevant job for 2-3 years max — you’re nowhere near paying off your debt and now you have a kid, you take several years off from your career, after 4+ years away nobody’s going to want to hire you, they’ll take a recent grad or someone with consistent experience over you. Many women don’t even go back, leaving their beta to help them with the remaining $50k+ student loan, what a nice guy.

Why bother with the education and debt, you’d be further ahead financially and have more freedom in your life if you just waitressed. Women having kids at a healthy age while pursuing careers does not compute.