The Triviality Of Female Sexual Selection

Why does the modern woman value charm and humor? Why can’t you wear a t-shirt listing your top ten accomplishments, yearly income, and penis length—assuming it’s above average—to get laid with as many women as you desire? Even for spinsters who desperately want a provider husband, a t-shirt like that is guaranteed to turn her off. A monster cock will not help you in getting that first bang.

What is it about the indirect insinuation of a man’s value that, when combined with a touch of humor and wit, makes a woman decide to sleep with him? I believe this a question that scientists are failing to answer. They’ll go on about physical symmetry and gene fitness and what not but they can’t properly explain why something like humor is almost a universal attractant for Western women. I can see why social proof matters, since it offers a shortcut for a woman to judge a man’s overall desirability, but accomplished sarcasm? Witty banter? Playing Wonderwall on the guitar? Having claimed to live in Iceland without having to actually show any proof? For the continuance of the human species, it’s not clear that those things matter.

Girls weigh those qualities heavily because there are millions and millions of accomplished men in the world who have good jobs, acceptable penis size, and a fine capacity to raise children. Therefore the modern woman is paralyzed from choosing the most “valuable” man to mate with. For her there are too many seemingly equal choices, so she ends up selecting on trivial factors that is a stretch for evolutionary theory to justify. To her she’s selecting on “interesting” or “worthy” qualities, but most men know it’s bullshit, which is why we often roll our eyes when a woman is impressed with another man’s accomplishments that appear rather insignificant.

While a peacock’s ability to maintain those cumbersome feathers is a sign of his toughness, my ability to write a blog or slum it around the world more cheaply than in the States (things that have contributed greatly to me getting laid) offers a less direct link to being worthy of bearing her children. But the fact is that those things are different and scarce, so therefore it has value in the eyes of today’s female. We can bemoan a woman’s selection process, or we can simply find out what they’re selecting for to get sex right now before nerdy scientists figure everything out.

You must simply do things or possess qualities that not a lot of other men have to increase the rate at which you’re selected for sex. It starts with good conversation skills and ends with interesting hobbies or experiences. I’ve long since learned that women don’t fuck me based on what I should have as a man (stable income, bed frame), but what I have that other men don’t. It’s what causes you to stand out, just like the peacock, which determines your sexual results. This is why guys get hooked onto game, a one-size-fits-all ideology that teaches you wit, charm, humor, confidence, and the logistical know-how to get sex, qualities that are cumulatively possessed by not many other men. As popular as you think game is, it’s still being actively practiced by a tiny minority of men, and mastered by few.

This is why today is a glorious day for the gamesman. His feathers are larger and brighter than the others, and until the next generation catches up, he will enjoy more sex than he can handle.

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Good lord on the book sales. I’m sure you making more now than you did as a biologist.

Does this income count as income earned overseas therby not requiring you to pay taxes on it?

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because penis size, accomplishments, primitive money, none of that counted in the environment we evolved in. the best predictor for the survival of a girl’s offspring was the status of her mate, uber alles.

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If penis size didn’t matter, it wouldn’t show variation in the population.

Art and humor can be found in any culture, art is million years old.

Read The mating mind by Geoffrey Miller, you’ll have a lot of answers to these questions.

“They’ll go on about physical symmetry and gene fitness and what not but they can’t properly explain why something like humor is almost a universal attractant for Western women”

Social intelligence, creativity… it’s also a proof that your brain, the most difficule organ to grow, is working fine. Which means on average that your genes get along well with the environment (intelligence correlates with beauty and sperm quality for example).

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This perfectly wraps up something I’ve been realizing recently. Years ago, I worked as a rodeo bullfigher while I was in college. A woman I was dating at the time cheated on me with the basically the only guy with nothing going for him. He was trying to ride bulls, and was horrible at it. But he’d talk about all these big dreams he had, while not actually doing anything to get out of his minimum wage day job. With all these bull riders there that had a reasonable chance of making it big, the one that talked the biggest dreams (despite being a total fuck-up) is the one she hooked up with.

Recently, I finally started to get what was going on there. I’m a really good looking guy, and make a good deal of money in a field that just sounds damn impressive the second you hear my title. Yet the amount of action I got was pretty weak until two things changed: I started learning about game from your blog and Roissy’s, and I started the process to try to get on a competitive reality show. The sheer fact that I’m preparing and submitting an audition video is enough to get a lot of these women wet right off the bat. They don’t care what you do now. But talking about the big dreams you have seems to let them get caught up in picturing the whole thing, and then they’re yours.

Honestly, I think that even if they know you’re full of shit, it doesn’t matter. As long as it’s a story they can get caught up in, that’s all you really need.

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Women want, perhaps more than anything, to be entertained. Women are developmentally no different than a toddler. I have been with doctors, lawyers, teachers, white trash sluts, hicks, red necks, college girls, and nearly every other type of girl. Even “smart” ones have an inability to sit still still, shut the fuck up, and read a book.

A guy with a cool life story is entertaining. He can tell her stories. He can inspire her to dream of unseen lands and untold riches and fame.

A man tells a woman stories just as he would entertain a toddler.

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Newflash/Spoiler: Everyone wants to enjoy themselves

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“You must simply do things or possess qualities that not a lot of other men have to increase the rate at which you’re selected for sex.”

Here is another easy way:

Do the opposite of “regular guy”.

Regular guy is a great reverse barometer of coolness.

– MPM

The Summerstown Kid
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Brian right, it’s the fantasy they get caught up in!

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Social skills would have been very valuable in a hunter gatherer society. The ability to build alliances etc. would keep alive and fed. Game signals those abilities.

Then sexual selection takes over as those same abilities, which have some signalling use, start to runaway.

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What about women with horrible conversation skills? I run into that more than anything.

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I think it really does boil down to a man’s ability to keep a woman entertained. After you lay out all of those other attributes, it ends up being about your ability to make her laugh, or fantasize about you. The “cool” job wins out over the more “stable” one. Even if they go for the guy with the more high paying job, they’ll claim to be unhappy after a while and fuck the pool boy or something…HA HA!

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Very OT: The following is a pretty panoramic view of the modern Polish (and other Central European) urban experience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI56rpMUl48

Lyrics are too awesome to be translated. The title is (very roughly) “Ain’t no fool can fool someone from Warsaw”. The song is from before WWII but the musical style is retro 80’s Polish disco.

Mention you’ve seen it and ask for explanations.

(note: the visual at 1.28 is meant to represent ‘galerianki’ underage girls from the working class who hang out in malls and try their hands at free-lance semi and full-scale prostitution)

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@Brian: Yes, they want to get caught up in the whole fantasy of your big dreams, it just needs to be something more exciting than their ‘boring’ life and that they can see themselves being part of. Because you’re describing her life, not yours.

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Two points:
1. I am a very good engineer, but never tell women about this – boring. My 6 day a year job as a pyrotechnician hooks them. Sad, but true.
2. What you describe sounds like looking through a pile of resumes when hiring someone. You look for an excuse to throw out 97 of them, talk to owners of 3, and pick one. If you are submitting a resume and want to get picked, differentiation is the beginning and the end.

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Good point Loki, but with women sometimes it’s also the opposite – they’re looking for something in a guy to ELIMINATE him. And it’s usually something superficial.

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My youngest brother who is in his mid twenties now,lives in la,ca and has been a musician since he was a teen.did the whole sunset strip clubs as he got better with his band and got signed etc….and the one thing that he always had was a steady flow of hot girls in his life.(mainly got taken care of by his richie adorIng girl fans because he never held a real job)
I chose the “lets get the good career”route in life and all it got me was a divorce to a gold digging b*tch who is probably laughing about me some where til this day.( divorced her 8 years ago)

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Maybe some women (not all) like interesting different and funny men because they like to be entertained and feel like they’re smart when the guy opens his mouth. Because most guys are boring and stupid.

But then some chicks don’t care and think that smart and funny guy sounds like a fag and his shit is all retarded.

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“Women are developmentally no different than a toddler…A man tells a woman stories just as he would entertain a toddler”

This has to be the best and most concise description of women that I have ever come across.

My relationship with women didn’t improve until I realized that they think like children. Once I came to that realization, I stopped being angry at them for being stupid, and instead accepted them for who they are, and bingo, I started getting laid.

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i use a collection of boston red sox fitted hats. the b plus the red R makes girls think i’m a gangbanger.

i wrote a post about it…

http://glitteringopprobrium.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/plumage/

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Feminism has made women complain about equality in relationships.

Seriously the biggest pile of shit they can come up with. The moment they feel equality in a relationship is the moment they’ll start fucking some alpha breed behind her boyfriend’s back and dump him without resentment. Then she’ll get abused, used up, and cling onto his dick harder for the emotional rollercoaster ride of her life, wrapped onto his finger for the thrill of the adventure.

Sucks, I know, but if you ever ask yourself how boring your life is, I think it’s time you change it around and keep active with yourself. Accomplish goals, pursue your dreams. When those dreams have been made, pursue new dreams. Keep upgrading, and let your bitch tread behind you. Or 3 of them.

Being accomplished = status. Lack of it = struggling. I think many girls out there find the struggler to be more interesting because he just hasn’t made it big yet, so hooking up with them boosts his confidence up to achieve and accomplish, while the girl in question feels good that she ‘cared’ for him and fixed his ass up. Guess it’s a feminine ‘motherly’ instinct that the bum inspires in the chick.

Meanwhile, other girls will swoon over a guy like Roosh because he’s done so much. He’s the big deal, and they will submit with arms (*cough*, legs) wide open to his confident, masculine behavior.

The biggest issue at hand is to back your own value up and dismiss hers. Despite having problems or whatnot in your life, always maintain higher value in the presence of women to end up in the bedroom with them. Telling stories like they’re children will undoubtedly shift power to the man, like he’s the daddy the girls loved.

That’s my take on it.

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“Women are developmentally no different than a toddler…A man tells a woman stories just as he would entertain a toddler”

Very true. Do we get angry at a baby when it cries? Of course not, so why get angry with a woman for being a stupid whore? Just recognize that it’s part of her nature and then exploit it for your own benefit.

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“Why something like humor is almost a universal attractant for Western women” – because women like to have a good time and laugh?
“You must simply do things or possess qualities that not a lot of other men have” – I don’t fully agree. The things or qualities in question have to be intrinsically valuable. That is, if you have say 2 teeth in your mouth whereas most guys have 32, that won’t get you sexually selected.

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The practice of game has brought me more things than my acid usage. Uh..wait a minute

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The supreme irony of it all is that as soon as you’ve accomplished all those things and met all of those goals that make you interesting, funny, strong, attractive, and alpha, you are going to be WAY better than any potential woman you will end up with. You will be dumpster diving for the rest of your life because no woman can really measure up to a fully developed man. It’s called penis envy.

Why on earth would you treat them as anything but disposable toys, to be used 3 or 4 at a time and then discarded in short order? They are all inferior to the self-possessed man, so why would we want to spend our lives with inferior people? You let them stick around long, and they start working to ruin your life and keep you emotionally unbalanced so they can control you. Then when you are worn down enough to give them some of that control, they feel they “conquered” you, and are no longer attracted to you.

When is the last time a woman entertained you for hours, made you laugh, said witty things that she made up on her own, etc? Like never? All they are good for is sex, and even that is boring after a few times with the same girl.

Men really did get the short end of the stick on this planet – having to bust our ass 24/7 in a misguided effort to impress people who are far inferior to us!

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damn that is a goddamn good comment

greater betas read this one again:

“You let them stick around long, and they start working to ruin your life and keep you emotionally unbalanced so they can control you. Then when you are worn down enough to give them some of that control, they feel they “conquered” you, and are no longer attracted to you.”

It doesn’t matter how things start, or how sparkly her eyes or how well she shaves her puss for you in the first year, this is how they will end, if you let them.

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Roosh, I think there’s a big component we’re not addressing here, in the article and the comments. Women, when selecting mates, see much more of a relationship continuum and envision what their lives would be like should she partner with you. That’s why factors like jobs, accomplishments, travel, musical tastes, etc matter to her, because she’s visualizing what almost immediately. They do this consciously and unconsciously. Guys, generally speaking, don’t envision the long term partnership, we visualize the sexual encounter, and thus could care less about travel and music.

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@23
You made a very important point that most men smart enough to use his bigger head come to in life.I feel Im at this point now as you discribed. good women that can atually give back to a man life And help improve it without making it worse or try to nullify a mans worth by being manipulitive etc..can only be found next to four leaf clovers and smurfs.they dont really exist.and it really is like dumpster diving out here.

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seeing as a shitload of people have clicked on my abovve link in a short time, won’t you please read a tale of seduction enetitled The Flavor Game?

http://glitteringopprobrium.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/the-flavor-game/

i will paypal a hundred fucking dollars to the first prson who leaves a comment

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Dang 23 is depressing… idk it can´t be like that, there has to be some good girls out there.

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“idk it can´t be like that, there has to be some good girls out there.”

imo she is either interesting and ugly or pretty and troubled. the best mix of pretty and cool is very hard to find. she exists, she just doesn’t hang out with losers so not a lot of dudes have encuntered her

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Women evolved weak arms and short attention spans exactly to meet the needs of newborns.

Even by the standards of other primates, humans are astoundingly helpless for many years. ( For some this status never changes. )

I have a niece who graduated from Ivy on a total free ride — perfect grades, high test scores, centerfold body…

Yet she is a relentless resource consumer. For all of her education NOT ONCE has she applied herself creatively. ( Unless you consider dancing meaningful. )

Her idea of social chatter is mind-numbingly trivial. Her brains and good looks virtually assure her spinsterhood: she sees Betas everywhere.

The gal needs negs badly.

As marriage material she’s a disaster.

Just another Gal Qaeda clone-warriorette.

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As you’ve often observed here, Roosh, qualities that make for a high value long-term mate (high income, stability …) won’t get you laid quickly.
Those qualities activate female long-term-relationship game, which tends to involve withholding sex for a while.

Men who seem interesting but unsuitable for long term relationship (i.e. amusing losers) tend to get laid more quickly because the woman doesn’t worry about what the man will think of her if she opens her legs too quickly.

It’s not that female selection makes no sense, it’s just that female priorities are different.

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“Why can’t you wear a t-shirt listing your top ten accomplishments, yearly income, and penis length—assuming it’s above average—to get laid with as many women as you desire? Even for spinsters who desperately want a provider husband, a t-shirt like that is guaranteed to turn her off.”

You are most definitely wrong about that! Try wearing a shirt saying you earn $500K/year and see how far you go. I bet you have a lot of luck with it.

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@29 blert…I’ve found that to be so true about women. Even the most educated women, when together, talk about absolute nonsense. It’s as if their brains can only handle matters related to whatever they do for a living, and any other time it can only handle matters of pop culture, gossip and fashion! It reminds me of a Godfather quote: “…I spent my whole life trying not to be careless. Women and children can afford to be careless, but not men.” And it’s true – women and children get cut slack for being flakey and flighty, but a man can’t be respected for behaving that way.

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@32 Education means nothing when we’re talking about women. All a college education means is that the chick graduated high school and then proceeded to sleep around for four years and graduate with a diploma and STDs.

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@29 blert:

Gal Quaeda. Laughed my a** off. Nice one.

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This is what most women are complaining about these days about men.Watch how the interviewer trips her up on one of her “Demands” I mean, Standards when it comes to what women want in a man these days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WucLToLDBpU&feature=channel_video_title

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