The Unintended Consequences Of Domestic Violence Laws

There is a large tree in the forest where ants and bees have been living for a hundred years. A natural balance has existed between these species so that the population of one has not been strong enough to dominate the other. They’ve actually been helping each other survive. The bees share excess honey while the ants share excess material they find in their deep forest expeditions. There is a constant threat of starvation that keeps them dependent on each other. The ecosystem is not perfect, but it has been sustainable for as long as the tree has existed.

Encroaching human development put houses near the tree. One house had a little boy who would place bread by the tree every day for the insects to eat. They now had more food than they could possibly need. Suddenly, they no longer had to work to survive. With such a burden lifted from their shoulders, they spent more time in their joint species tribunal, discussing how to increase the harmony of their tree environment.

The bulk of complaints came from the ants. “We are the weakest, so we need protection. Sometimes the teenage bees get out of hand, and mock us. They take us for joy flights, dropping us on the ground from high distances.” The bee elders sympathized with them; something had to be done. In addition to existing laws against violence, a new law was passed: violence against ants carried extra, severe penalties. The ants are weak, it was argued, so the law would increase harmony.

For a while, the tree was indeed more harmonious, as violence against ants lessened. But then violence against bees by ants increased. Teenage ants would gang up on an isolated bee, bury him in their mound, then time how long it took him to get out. The bee didn’t dare fight back from these attacks because of the harsh penalty for attacking an ant. The ants, the weaker species of the two, were suddenly strong. Fearful of attacks and unfair persecution, the bees, against the wishes of the bee elders, thickened their honeycomb to prevent interaction with ants. Distrust bred between the species for the first time in 100 years, and they came to hate each other.

The little boy grew up and went to college. He no longer put food by the tree. When a famine occurred after a large storm, the bees were not prepared. Without help from the ants, they all died. The ants did not shed many tears, because now they had the tree for themselves, and felt that they could finally create the utopia they always wanted. But one day they were invaded by an army of worms. The bees would normally fight this predator off, but now the ants were defenseless. They were all killed. After the attack, the tree was never again home to ants or bees.

Creating laws to prop up the weak is like playing a game of musical chairs. Power demands residence, and will simply shift itself to a new population that is favored by newly manufactured laws or environments. Domestic violence laws are a great example of this phenomenon. Assault and battery is already outlawed, but by creating a new class of laws that create privilege for a specific group, a new immunity is formed. The ecosystem is damaged, unprepared to take on the unintended consequences of misguided intervention.

In Ukraine, I witnessed a man slap his girlfriend on a crowded pedestrian street. Over 20 men must have witnessed the event, but no one rushed to her aid. She also did nothing, not screaming or running away. With primitive (i.e. rarely prosecuted) domestic violence laws in Ukraine, you’d think that this sort of thing would happen all the time, but it was the first time I had seen it in a country that I had spent 6 months in. Men show surprising restraint when it comes to violence against their women, something that may be a shock to people living in countries with advanced domestic violence laws.

In the USA, with nearly two decades of such laws on the books, what do you see? Women hitting men and women attacking men they don’t even know. I’m sure you’ve seen many such videos on Youtube and LiveLeak, which make it seem like women are warriors, completely fearless of men. With their elevation as a special victim in need of state protection, there is usually no punishment for hitting men, even if the man hits back only to defend himself. Girl hits man, man pushes girl away, girl calls cops, man goes to jail. If she’s married, she gets an additional bonus of monthly cash payments once the divorce is settled. Encouraging a man to fight has become financially beneficial for women.

Like the ants, women know that the laws give them a pass. They are taking full advantage of it, predictably conforming to their environment. Men are demoted to second class citizens and live in fear of going to jail while women have impunity to act in any way they want. The result? Less marriage, more violent marriages, unhappy relationships, and more single parent households.

Nature, while not perfect, has spend hundreds of thousands of years optimizing sex roles through trial and error to facilitate human reproduction. Religion, for example, has evolved alongside humans because it promotes reproduction, along with other traditions that may be seen as sexist today. Recent utopian schemes to “protect” women have ushered in policies that have no proven effectiveness, whether increasing the happiness of women, protecting the family unit, or advancing society in any form. They might as well have been pulled out of a top hat, an experiment done on the masses by those in power.

Progressives, through their tinkering, are introducing disincentives that destroy even basic relationships instead of stabilizing them. Their policies have helped create men such as myself, who see absolutely no incentive to pursue a relationship in a country where I can go to jail and be robbed blind from a failed relationship or from a woman lying about how I treat her.

One interesting thing I haven’t mentioned in Ukraine is the huge number of children walking around with their parents. They seem quite happy to me, rarely bickering in public, and the sight of such children is so prevalent that I can’t help but believe raising a family is normal, with my bachelor lifestyle being some sort of accidental perversion. In a place where women are not considered protected, some may even be surprised to never see women with bruises and black eyes, or see them getting beat up every day, screaming for help. In fact, it’s a rare occurrence, more rare than men getting hit in America. There will always be an unfortunate level of violence between man and woman, but any attempt to fix it through random laws and policies, as has been done in America, will only make it worse. Nature, in spite of its flaws, is more often right than wrong.

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only i
only i
7 years ago

i am the first to post.

good read roosh, interesting topic.

Del
Del
7 years ago

Huge fan of yours! You seem like a libertarian and economist — unintended consequences, disincentive… I’m one. I’m even more of a fan now.

Not sure I understand how religion adds to reproduction. Could you explain more? When I was younger, a Catholic teacher asked me why I wouldn’t aspire to become the Pope. I replied, politely that I like women and plan to have lots of sex with women.

Your post the other day on Buddhist Roosh vs. Ego Roosh resonated similarly.

Walla
Walla
7 years ago

Very good post!

Stevo
Stevo
7 years ago

Has anyone else noticed that between this and a couple of other posts, there is the sensation that roosh may be writing a children’s book. A sort of “manosphere” (for want of a better word) reaction to the indoctrination of our youth?

If so, keep going buddy

Ted
Ted
7 years ago

My experience with domestic violence has ruined my life. I married a petite girl from Taiwan who hit me more than 350 times in 5 years of marriage. I called the police on her many times. Every time the police came they always said, “Do you really want your wife arrested?”
Every time I backed down and declined. I tried to leave once during one really big fight, but she blocked the door and I pushed her.
The neighbors heard us and called the police. When they arrived and I told them what happened, the police said I could go to jail,
my wife could go to jail, or we could both go. Since my wife just stood there, I volunteered to go.

After my nightmare of going to jail and court, I was not convicted. I am clean-cut and straight arrow guy and this was a new experience for me.
Although I feel like I was the domestic violence victim in my marriage, society now views me as an evil wife-beater.

I did learn from this that the USA is a police state, the deck is stacked against American men, and an arrest record will ruin your life:

If an immigrant is a domestic violence victim they can stay in the US.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/07/us-obama-women-violence-idUSBRE92618M20130307

However, if an immigrant commits a crime, they can also stay in the US.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Minor-crimes-off-feds-radar-4145472.php

American men who have domestic violence records cannot marry foreigners.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/17/us/17brides.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

American men who have domestic violence records cannot own guns.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/24/suspreme.court.gun.rights/

I also found that people with criminal records must register with police when they move, cannot get a job, get a license, visit libraries,
visit a park, stay in a motel, rent an apartment, stay in nursing homes, start a business, get welfare, go to college, get student aid, run for office, or vote. Basically your life is finished if you a have a criminal record. Living in the USA now is not much better than living in the USSR.

http://www.solutionshomestaffing.com/employment

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/mar/21/nation/na-briefs21.S1

http://www.ci.apple-valley.mn.us/DocumentCenter/Home/View/773

http://www.presstelegram.com/20120813/new-cerritos-ordinance-bans-sex-offenders-from-city-parks-libraries

http://record-eagle.com/local/x1533635093/Some-say-Michigans-food-stamp-restrictions-for-drug-felons-are-unfair

https://www.midcontinent.edu/onlinepathway/opbsform.htm

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-04-16-drugs-students_x.htm

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2011/01/edwin_edwards_begins_six_month.html

http://newsok.com/board-votes-against-pardon-for-aging-killer/article/3086922

After all of these hassles and I got divorced, I had a Chinese girlfriend who hit me over 450 times over 12 years. I learned my lesson to not hit back, though.

Despite being a weak and beta man, I hope guys will learn from my story. If a girl ever hits you, immediately dump her.

I know many guys have just given up because men face a loaded system and do not have fair chance due to overwhelming nanny state laws, rules, regulations, divorce laws, child support laws, alimony laws, domestic violence laws, and taxes, but PLEASE do not quit. Men make up 50% of the population, are stronger, are smarter, and have more money that women. Don’t just surrender.
Think, read, talk to your friends and family, write your elected officials, contact the media, and vote!

The system needs to change soon. If we do nothing, things will only get worse.

jakester318
jakester318
7 years ago

I sometimes think game evolved more for the benefit of westernized males assaulted by a system that tries in every way to destroy them. Seeing places like the Ukraine, Romania, Poland, etc., you begin to see that the psychology of game as it relates to male/female dynamics is not really necessary. I’m speaking merely from the standpoint of age-old relationships between men and women. You still need to be a man in both western and eastern cultures, but you don’t need to fear for your life or despise the place family and meaningful relationships with women can have (in response to: “…I can’t help but believe raising a family is normal, with my bachelor lifestyle being some sort of accidental perversion”).

Anonymous
Anonymous
7 years ago

“Progressives, through their tinkering, are introducing disincentives that destroy even basic relationships instead of stabilizing them. ”

Often times this is exactly their point !

Anonymous
Anonymous
7 years ago

“….. but any attempt to fix it through random laws and policies…….”

True for any “it”, except perhaps for those specifically prohibited in the great religious texts.

Vomit Sex
Vomit Sex
7 years ago

“The result? Less marriage, more violent marriages, unhappy relationships, and more single parent households.”

And guys who have had enough simply smash the bitches skulls in and don’t care if they are sent to prison. When things become so extreme, a man’s dignity and self respect become the only things worth living for.

Anonymous
Anonymous
7 years ago

Don’t forget, after you get attacked by cupcake and get dragged off to jail, SHE gets FREE legal advice and representation courtesy the domestic violence industry.

You, vile penis-wielder, get to arrange and pay for your own defense from jail. Hope you have wealthy, sympathetic relatives. Otherwise, you’re getting railroaded… er… a public defender, a felony plea, and a round of expensive mandatory DV indoctrination classes where you get to learn all about wonderful things like the perfectly unbiased, evidence-based Duluth Model.

It’s Kafkaesque. And it’s unlikely to change any time soon.

Young men, don’t subject yourself to this– don’t get married or cohabit in the US.

All she has to do is dial 911 and you’re done.

Vomit Sex
Vomit Sex
7 years ago

At #5 Ted —

Ted – I hear ya. And the problem is that what defines violence against a female is purely subjective (aside from obvious cases). For example if you happen to disagree with “wifey” not an argument, but simply disagree, with her and her widdle feelings are hurt she could call the cops and have some kind of charge thrown at you, and if convicted then you have a criminal record.

The problem is today even foreign women who come to live in America get contaminated by the “virus” called feminism. It is to ever man’s interest in America to stay single and not even date any hormo al driven animal in this junker of a country.

Days of Broken Arrows
Days of Broken Arrows
7 years ago

What Ted wrote needs to be read by any man who think foreign women are “the answer.” This country’s perverse laws make it so there is no answer.

Violence against men has become so commonplace that in the teen romantic comedy “Nick and Norah’s Infinite Playlist,” the Norah character punches Nick *in the throat* about a third of the way though, yet he still pursues her as if it’s OK. This is the message we’re sending our boys.

Had the male-female roles in this scene been reversed, the movie probably would have been banned.

They Live
7 years ago

Why men and women are different:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/8d00354824dc22d14e372d8538a4fb9a/tumblr_msotm0RwGD1sgpjz0o1_1280.png

Awesome article Roosh !

One of my newest favourites !

ST
ST
7 years ago

Roosh V-
I’ve heard you say that after you get so many notches you start to really learn about how girls really tick versus the propagandizing and shaming they try to push on us tomcontrol our minds.

I really hope you will expound upon how women really tick inside and how they frame mentally the World around them.

For guys who are new to game, frustrated, or perpetual virgins it would be enlightening to get to know the depths of female skull duggery from players who know a boat load more than the novice crowd. It’s like Sun Tzu said know yourself and your adversary and you will win every time. Otherwise the odds of getting your ass handed to you out here increase exponentially. If you’ve been a beta and decide to wifey up without 25 or more notches you could benign a real ass kicking so really helping the ignorant see the light they don’t have access to like Platosmallegory of the cave in regards to how women actually work versus the smoke they blow out to the World is priceless. That concept in and of itself is the real men’s rights not a bunch of guys bitching about how the World sucks all day. Get knowledge have balls take action and win the damn war!

greenlander
greenlander
7 years ago

Brilliant. +1 Roosh.

preppy
preppy
7 years ago

Whatcha gonna do? You can be Bozo the punching bag, or you can split and leave her to fend for herself — something that even a professional career woman will fail at miserably. I know some that have just fallen into the depths of despair as they’ve gotten old, fat, and unattractive — both physically and intangibly.

Get out of the way and let her box shadows the rest of her miserable days. Good riddance!

Joe Dick
Joe Dick
7 years ago

indeed, just search on youtube for ‘stupid bitch’ and you’ll be surprised how many women got hit back by men who didn’t take their shit.

We grow up with this stupid belief that you should not hit a woman until she’s pissing all over your boots. Wrong. That’s their game, they assume that you’ll think ‘ok she’s a woman’ and you set your ‘take the shit’ threshold much higher. Don’t do that.

I was a nice guy, but no more. Read the book ‘Venus the dark side’ and watch Snapped.

Things are even less obvious, actually. For example, a while ago I was, for one reason or another, crossing paths with ugly, fat, and even old, bitches with an attitude. Of course, I would not have fucked them with someone else’s dick, but I was shocked to see that even the ugliest and fattest women had an attitude, you know, the kind of ugly/fat/old stupid smartass who either disguises putdowns as jokes, or they, shockingly, do it directly, as in this interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3UG8WGbV2w

so you see, there’s a verbal layer of problems. In the past I didn’t know how to deal with that, I would simply be stupefied. Now I know much, much better.

Joe Dick
Joe Dick
7 years ago

I think I am well prepared. Lol

mich
mich
7 years ago

It’s actually funny to see how some ot hte more intellectually challenging posts by Roosh get less comments, but of better quality.

I hope to read more posts like this one, as well as book reviews (for when the next one?). Keeps our brain sharp.

ST
ST
7 years ago

An observation-
Roosh is targeted by Jew ran commie ‘rights’ groups like the Adl and Splc because he is of Middle Eastern descent. They don’t mess with their co-tribal ethnic club like Style/Neil Strauss or Ross Jeffries.

redpillmtl
7 years ago

@Ted

Jesus man, that was fucking depressing. I can’t imagine how many betas are in that situation after getting tricked into marriage.

John Doe
John Doe
7 years ago

And this is why I have nothing to do with American/western/white women. They are truly out of control animals who can snap on you at the slightest thing. They truly are rabid animals.

Until men wake the hell up and stop giving any attention to these spoiled little brats (American women), not much will change. Either way, the betas and manginas will continue to kiss the ass of western women, and they will deserve to suffer for their stupidity and weakness. Real men will go for real women who treat their man with respect, and both will be happy.

Water finds it’s own level.

Clarence Troy
Clarence Troy
2 years ago
Reply to  John Doe

Very well said! it is not in a man best interest to co-habitate with a narcissistic species such as women

Anonymous
Anonymous
7 years ago

Women dont need to be ruined by just living in america. Watching amerucan tv and internet can give that influence as well. Women will only behave a certain way only what their society allows. Hell i think we have more domestic violence than 3rd world nations since the women dont act like cunts.
@ted
ur story is very similar to this white dude i knew who went thriugh similar with his filipino ex wife.
I tell these white guys that think that they marrying an ethnic girl(arab latin indian asian etc) that everything would be perfect.
They are not goin to be that feminine traditional girl that her men expect her to be.
In their mind when she gets her white guy, she doesnt have to cook, clean, can have a high notch count and not be judged for it(or have a notch for that matter), dress like a fat slut(tattoos n piercings too) and still be considered sexy and to be able to give shit to her man and still be treated like a queen.
White guys ruin women of all colors sunce they putem on a pedestal an pass that mindset to other guys and calkin their traditions qwird n backward.
Women are oppurtunistic an caniving. Dont get involved by these so xalled “oppressed” girls. Theyll never be satisfied, you have to be incontrol even controlling since shell respect you more than bein a leniant beta.
If you cant emulate her traditional man dont bother gamin her.

Dr. Giggles
Dr. Giggles
7 years ago

Let met guess…the worms are the Chinese.

Anonymous
Anonymous
7 years ago

Come to think of it. It sounds very white knight for a white dude and come in save his ethnic ho from her “hated oppressive men”. Captin save a ho aint gettin no traditional feminine play for his efforts just western woman 2.0 in a darker skin tone.( shed be worse cuz she never got to act like that growin up….prepare to see her go overboard about bein western or white when shes with her beta white knight)