The Unintended Consequences Of Pursuing Very Beautiful Women

Not long ago I made a shift in the type of girl I would pursue. Instead of relying on the boner test, whereby I’d approach girls who I wanted to have sex with, I started to use the beauty test, where I’d carefully evaluate a girl’s beauty, make sure it was exquisite, and then approach. While I did still approach girls who excited my boner, I began listening more to my brain’s desire for beauty instead of my crotch’s desire for sex. This led to a few unintended consequences.

What is a stronger motivator of male behavior: desire for sex or the desire for beauty?

If a man is horny, he’s ready to do untold amounts of work while suffering rejection in order to put his penis inside a vagina. The desire for beauty, while also present, motivates men to a far lesser degree. If I go without sex today, I may feel agitated, frustrated, and lacking, but if I go without beauty, I won’t even notice. The main result of moving from seeking sex to seeking beauty is that your game motivation declines. You’re chasing a goal that is less important to your immediate needs, and so it’s easier to rationalize not doing anything at all to gain it.

Are girls rated in the 6-7.9 range easier to lay than girls rated 8 and above?

Less attractive girls are simply easier to lay. For every hour of game work you do on a 6, you will receive greater sexual results than gaming on an 8. This difficulty is not linear in that you have to merely do twice as much work to get the 8, but logarithmic in that you may have to do 20 times more work for the same util of sexual pleasure received. As a result, you will expend additional labor trying to score beauty. It’s also likely that your sexual variety will drop.

Which girls are better suited for reproduction and which are better suited for sexual pleasure?

When I’m ready to reproduce, I will want to do so with the most beautiful girl possible so that I can pass on her strong genetics to my offspring. I want my son to be handsome so that he can mate with beautiful women and my daughter to be beautiful so that she can land a high-status man. As we would expect, it takes extra work to land a beautiful woman compared to her merely cute counterpart, but I’m not cashing in on my relationships with beautiful girls to have the reproductive reward. Instead, I’m putting in the extra work for sexual pleasure with an 8+ that feels almost the same as with a 6. The small difference in pleasure received is definitely not worth the increased amount of labor. In effect, I’m wasting that labor for casual sex with superior genetics when I should be reproducing with it.

Which girls are easier to maintain a mini-relationship with that does not end in reproduction?

While I haven’t banged a ton of girls in the 8+ range, my sample size is large enough to notice that differences in dating a cute girl and a “hot” girl. The cute girl requires a lower level of game, goes out of her way to please me more, and tests me less. The hot girl requires my game to be on point 24/7 and, in spite of that, she provides me with less entertainment and satisfaction, often stemming from a personality that is not as eager to please a man.

The hot girl’s beauty is nice indeed, but unfortunately men adapt to a woman’s beauty in a short period of time. Within two weeks of banging an 8+ girl, I don’t feel any additional pleasure from her, not helped by the fact that she makes me work harder to simply maintain the relationship. Only with an 8+ girl do I sometimes feel I have to run game to bang her—after I already banged her.

I want more than anything to have a beautiful girl on my arm, and am not lazy about putting in the effort required to do so, but if I look upon this pursuit logically, I find that using the beauty test does not have a net reward if I choose not to reproduce. While my ego is satisfied when other men look at me and my beautiful date, expending extra labor for a mini relationship just to have a prettier face doesn’t make much sense, and doing this over the past two years has not only reduced my sexual variety but also my overall satisfaction with the game. If my main goal of using game is sex, pursuing beauty may actually take me away from that and put me on a track meant for family formation.

As a result of this analysis, I have reverted back to mainly using the boner test. My quality has immediately dropped, but I now have to work far less for the same sexual result. At the same time, the high beauty I have experienced in the past does make it difficult to pursue less attractive girls, especially when I know for certain that I could do better. I should only use the boner test as long as I don’t want to reproduce, but beauty is prized for a reason that may not be entirely logical. I don’t think I can give it up entirely.

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Once I started banging 8+s I can’t go back. Satisfying my ego as well as my desire to have sex is far better than the result of sleeping with a girl of lesser quality. Sometimes I feel a sense of unexplainable remorse for my actions and curse my penis for the ability to get aroused at a mere 6. Once you have passed the threshold there is no shame in reducing the amount of sex you have in order to feel the overall benefits of sleeping with gorgeous women. Id rather pass on the 7 and save my bed for someone who I don’t mind waking up to the next morning. There will be longer dry spells but be content in the fact that you have been there and you will do it again.

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“I’d rather pass on the 7 and save my bed for someone who I don’t mind waking up to the next morning. There will be longer dry spells but be content in the fact that you have been there and you will do it again”

^^^^^^ THIS.

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Are you in game for sex or for women’s looks?

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did Roosh just announce that he expects to settle down and have kids?

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I think that post about the worst vacation ever said something was changing.

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There’s nothing wrong with having a family.

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I think you wanted the “Lifetime” forum.. or the Mormon website.. This is the site where we want to bang strange hot pussy.. not impregnate it. Granted.. the ONLY way I would have kids, is if it was in a non-progressive/liberal bullshit westernized country i.e. Poland/Ukraine.

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Sadly, my country Poland is getting fucked up as we speak…

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“…but I’m not cashing in on my relationships with beautiful girls to have the reproductive reward.” -Roosh
I do not think so

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I do not hope so, have you seen his face?

TyKo Steamboat
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Sure, Hammerstrike, you coward.
There are some unattractive women out there….Thank God for Eastern European women.

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“do so with the most beautiful girl possible so that I can pass on her strong genetics to my offspring.”

The problem with that logic is that you forgot to factor in that really good looking bitches make lousy wives and mothers, especially today and this retarded attitude they have spreads to other countries.

Having a child also means having a mate that is pragmatic to be in a family. Trophy bitches, aside from being a beautiful fuck, are completely worthless and useless.

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yep. The girls who have been the most pleasant to be with have always been in the 6.5-7.9 range. I dated an 8+ tall blonde for 1,5years and the level of egoism, manipulation and spoiledness displayed by her blew everything I had seen until then out of the water.

For mini relationships, sure.. 8+’s aren’t a problem. For anything more than that.. man I don’t really know. Too much trouble for what it’s worth.

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“For mini relationships, sure.. 8+’s aren’t a problem. For anything more than that.. man I don’t really know. Too much trouble for what it’s worth.” I think some of the better looking guys who subscribe to the MGTOW strict construction draw from this, and are unwilling to settle down with the <8s around.

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I can attest to this now. I am dating an 8+ who is 19 and since she has never been challenged in any way by a man, her level of ego and the degree to which she plays games and gives shit tests, is astonishing. I am newish to game and the red pill but I think there is a very positive unintended consequence of being involved with a woman like this. It’s that it absolutely FORCES you to run good game and maintain frame. Especially if you are new to game, I feel like it may be one of the most efficient ways to improve it.

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“Passing along genes.”
Can we call this what it really is? Having children.
If you think this way, then you intend to have children.
Definitely don’t want to get some crazy 8+ prego. Holy sh*t. She’d own your @$$.
Then, after they squirt out a child…they’ve essentially passed something the size of a watermelon through something the size of a peach unless they got a c-section…they sure ain’t an 8 anymore!

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Truer words have never been spoken. 2 things that ruin a woman’s pussy.. 1. Children, 2. Age. I deal with guys paying child support/alimony, all the time. It ruins them financially.. they can’t retire at a decent age, and end up working until they die.

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Have you never heard of Kegel exercises?

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Utter bullshit, bro? Wow. Looks like you trolled for the rare exception. ….Here is what you get on average. & BTW…something tells me the stock photo you found ain’t you own wink

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..

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“Utter Bullshit”??? Looks like you trolled for a stock photo that is not your own…Way to find that rare exception.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/16/article-2325419-19CF19EB000005DC-808_634x483.jpg

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Children first, wife after.

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It’s true. Even in Ukraine. The women are just as unfaithful imo, and still like to fuck around on you, just like American women. If you bring them back to the USA, it’s a guaranteed failure, because that’s the way they are. Keep them there, where there are few eligible men, and you can dump her ass when you want. The fact that she needs you, and that there are other girls waiting to take her place, keeps her ass in check. 1. Don’t marry them, 2. Don’t impregnate them. That’s suicide right there. Might as well just sign your shit away, and hang yourself.

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So why not be unfaithful right back?

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On the other hand that means that being single mothers is too much work and patience for them.

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5s are like some hood grocery store or bulk grains (fills you up but not impressive at all).
6s are like McDondalds (somewhat satisfying and a little tasty)
7s are like Applebee’s (pretty good but you know it’s nothing extra special)
8s are like Ruth Chris (definitely very good but is it worth the extra $ for the smaller improvement)
9s are like a French Restaurant (quality is great but is all the pomp and circumstance really worth it?$
10s are virtually nonexistent (I do not go ou and say-she’s a 10. Perhaps a 10 is a 9 that treats you well).

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duuuuuuuuude apple bees’s in this case sounds like the best value

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Truth. It’s paretos law in action. A fly French meal is $150 but you can do fairly well on $30.

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McDonalds is better than applebees

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Certainly better price performance, but you have to deduct for their vagrant toleration policies.

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What Cities have you guys seen an abundance of 8s and 9s?

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Based on what Roosh has said in the past, probably Ukraine, Russia, Argentina, maybe Czech Republic, maybe Colombia.

Question about your username: are you on the AR15 website a lot?

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No. That stuffs too ocd for me.

I actually prefer M14s FALs and G3s. This screen name just sounds manly so I like it.

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Anywhere in Ukraine.. You could be in a backwoods shit village, and the girl that happens to ride by on her bike, will look like a Victoria Secret Angel or some shit.. Not missing her teeth and methed out, like here in America.

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Uncle Roosh,
Keep filming the videos of the girls on the street wherever you go-the pictures say more than words ever could.

Christopher Bear
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genetics are tricky, i’ve seen good looking parents with lame looking kids and vice versa. it’s a gamble i say!

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haha. I’ve noticed this too, you never know when the genes of great grandpa Fester or great grandam Ema Lou’s hunchback genes are going to kick out a leper. Some of the ugliest offspring I’ve seen are from a HS football star and the head cheerleader from my HS.

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yeah, arent there like celebrity babies who are not good looking??? riskay i say

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yea, but it’s a rarity. At different stages in life people’s looks based on facial shape, body genetics, eb and flow. I’ve seen very fit 20-something cuties with butt ugly fat ass parents. Eventually the blubb usually catches up.

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Nothing’s guaranteed in life except death and taxes, but you increase your odds of having genetically-superior offspring by mating with a genetically-superior spouse. It’s not a gamble, it’s a calculated risk, otherwise we wouldn’t be born with the innate ability to differentiate between unattractive and attractive mates and desire the attractive ones.

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People are assuming they will have a normal child. Autism is rampant.. Have fun with a retarded baby, who will shit it’s pants the rest of your life. You will eventually put them in a home/care center, or some sort, therefore automatically becoming a piece of shit, who abandoned your retarded child. That’s just autism. We can mention all the other genetic disorders, or psychological disorders out there also.

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Regression to the mean, gentleman.

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Roosh, what if your daughter ends up with your genes? That ass hair won’t be reaping any high status males.

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we know that even girls 8+ will humiliate themselves to a man they deem worthy. Roosh why don’t you try pursuing money more brazenly? You have the game but maybe you need more rich attitude to feel comfortable at the next level.

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girls 8+ will humiliate themselves to a man they deem worthy

It’s not just the money that makes a man “worthy”… it’s the combination of money, fame, power, social standing, confidence, grooming, etc.

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Roosh is skint…

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“Only with an 8+ girl do I sometimes feel I have to run game to bang her—after I already banged her.” If that isn’t the truth..

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A lot of guys will notice it’s still true, after replacing some words in your comment: “With a wife one always feels like one has to run game to bang her – after one already banged her”.

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I like a solid 7 who knows how to surpass an stock 8 with hair, makeup, fashion and a feminine attitude. The maintenance is manageable, and she’ll stand out amount 8’s and above who think they don’t have to expend any energy to attract men.

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I agree. But this all depends on your definition of a 7 or an 8 I suppose. Every guy has different tastes.
I like those EE girls with their sharp, exotic facial features & their “tired eyes”

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“tired eyes” is also known as, “the thousand-cock stare”.

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The main result of moving from seeking sex to seeking beauty is that
your game motivation declines. You’re chasing a goal that is less
important to your immediate needs, and so it’s easier to rationalize not
doing anything at all to gain it.

So this explains are most guys will be pretty satisfied with porn? smile I mean, feminism has increased the demands and amount of work a man is required to do to get sex (increased the price) and very little benefits in return. So, unless you’re dealing with a girl who’s genuinely interested in giving you a boner, you’re at a loss. On the other hand, the less femininity and intrinsic “beauty” of feminists, i.e., increased level of bitchiness, means that either a super sexual satisfaction is delivered or the deal is just not worth the pursuit, other than ego validation (such as other men looking at you and your beautiful girl).

There’s only one test that matters: the boner test. Everything else is ego.

Just as last observation, even if going for beauty would mean “settling and having kids”, still it’s not the equivalent of settling for “beta bucks”, because usually women never make an effort in the first place to get any man and both sexes are different anyway (such as women valuing “experienced” guys and men finding “virginity” beautiful and attractive). There is no sexual equality. “Gender equality” is just a flawed and deceitful feminist social construction.

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is it possible to have outliers? (i.e exceedingly hot girls who grew up in a climate where their beauty was undervalued so you can get a 6’s obediance from a 9 body?)

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It was – think small-town girls before social networking penetrated every damn corner of the world.

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True.

I’ve encountered 8s in mid-size and smaller cities in the U.S. who were *far* nicer and more pleasant than 8s in big cities. The lack of attitude can be mind-blowing.

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Another outlier is girls from religious households/communities (like Pentecostals), especially those who’ve recently moved to a city for school / work / exploring society … Here’s an example of 6.5 who probably has the attitude of an LA 4.

Also, girls who’ve gone through rough childhoods but are psychologically intact can be a risky bet, but may pay off well.

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I’m attaching a photo from a website that sells ‘modest’ clothing to Pentecostal and other modern religious-leaning groups.

this is the example of the 6.5 I referenced above that will probably have the attitude of a 4 from LA, once you crack her shell.

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theres no link

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You forgot the photo sad

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I was raised Mormon, and there were plenty like that. However, once they went off to college, had their first sip of beer and dick inside the, they went hog wild. They would drink and suck anything put in front of them.

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Happens with widespread racism / twisted dominant ideals of beauty.

In East & Southeast Asia, white skin is pushed by the society/media as beautiful (as evidenced by tons of whitening cosmetic products), and dark skin is seen is lower-class/ugly. Generally lower self-confidence (society considers it ugly in females) and solid value of decent men in these societies helps too.

In places like Thailand or Vietnam, it’s possible to have an 8 (by Western standards) darker skinned girl, who’s socially pinned as a 6. Rarely goes by more than two notches, though, natural beauty is universal (though subjectively, an occasional Westener can see a Thai 4 as an 8).

Extra point can be found in the fact that Asian women age well, and while a 28-year-old or even 35-year-old East Asian woman still looks young to a Westerner, their age is obvious and they’re already considered old (and thus less attractive) by local men.

This works in mixed societies (e.g. Thailand, Vietnam, Philippines), but not in ones where dark skin is >90% dominant (e.g. India, Cambodia).

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Asian women age well? What?

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Hell yes, they age well. Many Asian women have softer, youthful skin relative to other women. Not to mention, attractive mature Asians don’t put on much weight to their already petite frames. The exception is Asian-Americans. Many are adopting American’s poor eating habits and putting on weight.

Asian women at all ages are very feminine. They don’t start letting themselves go and dress like men as they age. They wear skirts, dress, high heels and do their hair. You will never see a woman in Asia walking around with her hair undone in sweats and gym shoes.

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You get that here in Hi bro no joke. I’m not ugly but ugly dudes get 9’s

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Hi? where’s that

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If you want that kind of obedience, guaranteed, just convert to islam and marry a religious girl.

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Fascinating!

The Boner Test vs. Raw Beauty ???

Sometimes, it is more satisfying to get kinky with a 7 versus having bland sex with an 8 or 9..

Maybe, it’s more psychologically satisfying (gratifying for the ego) in the short term to be with an 8/9 but more sexually satisfying to be with a girl of lesser beauty who passes the boner test and works to please us.. ???

I have recently “graduated” to 8s.

Like Roosh, I must admit that they are no more satisfying, in general, than 7s. A variety of factors are involved. (personality, chemistry, sexual compatibility, desire to please, logistics, location, etc.)

I like to have one of each.

An 8/9 to spend time with and also a kinky girl who passes my boner test, the second girl is usually in the 7 range!

It’s funny, sometimes, when I am with a very pretty girl, I miss the ease and desire to please of less pretty girls.

Sexual satisfaction vs ego.. It’s an interesting balancing act!

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it is more satisfying to get kinky with a 7 versus having bland sex with an 8 or 9

I agree. But at the same time, it’s an even better feeling to run such tight game on an 8, and to get into her mind enough, that she wants to get crazy with you.

The memories of convincing a hot girl to do wacky stuff is really nice

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You’re a vet.

What should the man do who is an incel in his early 30s, who has a negative loop running in his head that he doesnt even deserve a 6, who just gets nervous and stays nervous the whole time by even talking to girls do?

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The idea of objective beauty is naive by itself and turns out to be delusional by considering that the ability to distinguish paint and performance from actual physique is a very rare gift.

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A 7 is the small block Chevy, Glock, or Remington 700 of the gene pool.

Shes decent quality but not the best but has almost unlimited potential to be modified towards improvement. Very versatile.

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A 7 …. [has] unlimited potential to be modified towards improvement

Ehhh…. only to an extent. Ehhh, you can add a blower, better ammo, or a sight…. but in the end, you just have an upgraded version of a mainstream product.

The core/frame/skeleton (genetics) will still be what they always are

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Man I know a Remington 700 is not as nice as a Sako, Accuracy International,or Blaser Tactical.

What cities have you seen an abundance of 9s in?

For me that’s LA and Miami and as hot as Latins and Armenians are-my deepest thirst is for the German, Czech, Ukranian, Estonian girls (notice I did not say Polish and all you guys who think German chicks are ugly are high on crack like Ridk James IMO).
Is she ugly?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eNYKcvlzObk/UCwoYbn1q1I/AAAAAAAC7qQ/yYXjn8ZDhGA/s1600/german_soccer_girls_16.jpg

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First off.. I don’t even consider American cities when speaking of beautiful women. The ratio/percentage of beautiful women, to ugly women is so one sided. Most “Latinas” look like dog shit in America. They are usually Mexican decent, and get fat as fuck in their mid 20’s. The Armenian girls are hot, but expect a lot from a man. You will never be good enough. Most German girls have strong features.. It’s hit and miss there. Simply put, American women = shit. You aren’t going to be fucking a girl like this, unless you have top notch game, or you are fucking rich. Simple as that. Miami/LA have guys that you can’t compete with.. I imagine you aren’t rich, and don’t drive a Bugatti.

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Are you sure she’s not just a tourist?

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Them: “What do you want?”

Me: “Really simple; I want it all.”

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“If my main goal of using game is sex, pursuing beauty may actually take me away from that and put me on a track meant for family formation.”

Why not first establish a foundation by meeting your baseline needs of sex with side dishes, and then focus on high end pursuits?

Personally I enjoy the pursuit of the hunt. Winning over a beautiful girl that most guys couldn’t even dream of sleeping with is a very rewarding experience. Not just for the ego, but for the novelty and variety added into your repertoire of experiences.

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Does she have a tiny butt? Does she seem reasonably not crazy? Does she have fresh breath? Then she is getting banged, son.

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Roosh, have you noticed that your level of game increases as the beauty of the girl increases? My game with 8s seems absolutely on point a lot of the time while with 5s and 6s i feel myself fumble around a lot more. What could be the cause of this? Because of this my results are only slightly better with lower beauty girls.

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i’d fuck most chicks above a certain baseline. fucking chicks is great.

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Roosh, are you planning on settling down (maybe subconsiously)? Your recent posts seem to suggest just that.

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But would you say that the SMV ranking system is relative or absolute?

Is the rating scale based on an absolute scale within your male mind? Or is it relative to the talent of the area?

Is it the case that a 7 in a land of uggos and fatties will be perceived as an 8?
And is it the case that that same 7 will be perceived as a 6 in a land of banging women?

If it is relative than I’d say just settle down in a country where the average values are higher than other areas and set up shop with that 7 who passes the boner test.

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It has to be some combination of relative and absolute, right? What I perceive a 7 to be, may be an 8 or 9 to you or vice versa. But, on the whole, when we average the numbers out over large sample sizes we can elucidate a more absolute rating scale. I say, when evaluating talent for yourself go with your own personal boner test and don’t worry so much about what a more absolute rating might be for said chick.

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Some of the nicest, fun, intelligent, sexy and loyal girls you’ll ever meet are a 5 or 6 or 7…

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An upgradeable 7 is the sweet spot. She pretty before you accessorize her. Put the right clothes and makeup on her then she appears to be an 8 or higher. so she is less work when not in full battle gear, but can throw down when you need to show off

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Poland is the land of 6’s and 7’s

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I married a 7 who can go to 8.5 when she has the right clothes and is in the mood. Good mother, good in bed, cooks dinner every night.

I’d pass on the 8+ girls.

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LOL at this ugly shitskin ever fucking a worthwhile, attractive girl.

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fucking girls without game is the best

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At least you know now what works best for you: banging lots of above average looking girls. For a guy who doesn’t want to get married this is by far the best most productive way. It will also produce the most stories for us to read. Do many girls recognize you since you been on TV in Ukraine? Has being known helped you, hurt you, or neither?

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My sample size is much smaller than yours, but I’ve noticed two, general types of beauty in women. Un-self-conscious beauty and self-conscious beauty. The un-self-conscious woman is naturally beautiful and doesn’t make it the focus of her outward appearance. The self-conscious woman will heavily augment her appearance through makeup and fashion (she may still be naturally beautiful), while neglecting her character, personality and experience. Although the self-conscious type evokes a stronger, more visceral reaction initially, the former is far more interesting and arguably easier to seduce, provided you have value as a man.

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You usually don’t have to seduce the non-self conscious types – if you are interesting to them, it’s on.

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Here’s my story: Being almost 31 y. o. with some 6 years of game / redpill practice, I keep 1 or two 6-7s around with 3 months rotation period. This gives me enough sexual pleasure to pursue higher goals – the 8.5+s once a upon a time. As Roosh suggested, pursuing 8+ full-time is unproductive.

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Wow, I can’t believe what I am reading here. 8+ girls are not different from 6-7 girls inside their heads! That is why game works on them. The only difference is that they are not used to any game because betas put 8+ girls on a pedestal and supplicate before them, and many men wont’ even approach because of the wrong assumption that 8+ girls are unapproachable. The whole point of game is to get the core of a woman to respond to what she actually wants, not what she thinks she wants. Good game will work on any beauty number because it is based on science and pyychology, not context. Game allows you to “bang up” above your own looks number because you are providing what is most desired to the woman. The 8+ is not harder to game and does not take more game .If you provide good game, she will be into you and wondering to herself why she is while going back again and again for more. I think this article was some sort of wierd Roosh experiment and most of you failed.

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All I can say is, Roosh is not your typical guy, not even a typical PUA. for most of us getting pussy is for fun and pleasure, Roosh sees the purssue of beautifull women almost like a science, a sociological experience. He s trying to understand their behaviour, how to approach them etc. for most of us, we dont want things to be so complicated. I dont collect flags with 9s and 10s and dont write books about it like roosh does. I simply approach women who attract me and bang them for pleasure, so for me it really doesnt have to be all 9s and 10s especially if they are so much trouble.
I actually appreciate natural beauty in women which is often underrated, I would rather choose a slim woman who looks healthy and radiant without any make up, wears feminine, elegant but regular clothes (a simple dress, jeans and a blouse etc) rather than a supermodel wannabe who has a ton of make up on her face, wears pretencious brand name clothes and makes guys turn heads with her stunning looks, but will look bleak and worn out in the morning without the make up. I know that PUAs like roosh who bang high class beautifull women and then like to brag about it, would rather choose a woman that will make all their friends jelaus. but she will have a bitchy attitude and sex with her will not be half as good. the relationship will be about pleasing her rather than pleasing you. on the other hand more easy going laid back girls, the girl next door type, who we consider 6s anbd 7s are actually just as pretty as the 9s and 10s, their beauty is just less polished and more natural. sure they can dress up and look stunning for special ocasions, but then the next day they will ride horses with you wearing old jeans and a pair of boots and not complain about it. the top notch girls are so spoiled with attention they are simply not rewarding enough and dont give you as much love as the regular good looking girls. If you want to collect flags with top notch hotties from different countries like roosh, go for it, but dont expect her to serve you coffe in bed or do your laundry or go out of her way to please you in bed like a normal pretty girl would. Im sorry but polished beaty does not last long and does not matter much to me. bitchy attitude of spoiled supermodel types ruin the whole thing for me. Im not saying I never pursue top notch women, I do, but only if they are welcoming, warm and dont play hard to get. there is a certain level of things I will do to get laid (a few nice compliments, a dinner in a cheap cafe, flowers, some gentlemen like behaviour) and I will not do anything beyond that, I dont care how pretty she is. Im not saying, bang ugly fatties, no you should pursue pretty women who conform to basic standarts of beauty and feminity ( a healthy body, a cute face, decent behaviour, warm and feminine attitude, a basic sence of style) and dont demand much from you but give you back a lot. But dont waste your time and money chasing cold hearted bitches just because they look like a movie star or whatever if you do it for the fun. just not worth it.

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Beauty Maybe Truth, but she does not necessarily speak it.

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I had the opposite experience, I was with a “cute” girl in the US who was from Europe, she seemed easy initially but became difficult later on. I traveled overseas to Hungary, and met a very beautiful Hungarian woman, I was a bit intimidated by her looks but she went out of her way to pleasure me sexually. I really think its the locale you are in and the girl’s situation. The cute girl in America might be from Europe, but America is very empowering for women, so she is tougher, the gorgeous girl in Hungary is in a different situation.

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I think that is basically what Roosh has said. Eastern European women work harder to attract a man especially a Western man. However, this is all changing as the Eastern European women get more and more exposure to Western men and Western culture.

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I am not in game for just sex either, just having a beautiful woman that can help me pass on our superior genetics and treat me right is what truly brings happiness.

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This was idiotic, they’re girls nothing more. And if you have to use tactics to get some, well that says alot about you.

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Non, no no. I couldn’t disagree more. I would never pick a super beautiful woman to raise my children. Above average, yes. Why, because the above average has both genetics AND socialization in her favor to impart to my children. Too beautiful, and you never have to develop the people skills to really succeed in this world. I wouldn’t curse my children with a 9-10/10 mom for all the tea in China.

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I don’t know if this has been said by others or Roosh, but the other advantage of picking up 6s and 7s regularly is the enormous boost it gives my game when approaching 8s or higher. When you can rely on your game to score good sex with women, you don’t need the 8 as much which seems to help your ego and women pick up on that vibe.

There is a saying “How do you get pussy?”. Act like there are a thousand more just around the corner. If you live in a city, this is essentially true. When you are getting regular sex this is very easy. Ever have a friend who had lousy game and it was compounded by the fact that women picked up on his desperation.

Having said that, I have had 7s that were so eager to please. “Let me swallow it!” “Do you want to cum on my face?” “I like having sex in public places.” “I want to try anal.” “Do you want me to dress like a school girl?” I even had a girl that I was losing interest in ask me if she and her roommate could come over.

On the flip side, 8s have given me the worst head all the while telling me how they’ve been told how they give great blowjobs. Seriously guys, why are you telling chicks this crap? What do women not understand about the operative word SUCK? It’s not lick my cock or kiss my cock or even wet my cock. It’s SUCK MY COCK. Suck it like a vacuum. Suck it like you are trying to pull the maraschino cherry through the straw. After bad head, I get down to business and then likely the 8 is like fucking a dead fish.

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If a 9 attractive, virtuous, honest-to-God, virgin all of her life, saintly woman walked up to you right now, do you honestly think you manwhores would deserve her purity? Do you honestly think any of you deserve a real princess? The honest truth is you all deserve the treatment you’re getting. Let the swans lay down with the swans and the rats mate with the rats. Open your eyes and realize how sinful you are. Stop sleeping around and playing the pity game. The arrogance on this website is ridiculous. You would have to be a prince yourself to deserve what you want.