Traditional Gender Roles Create Feminine Women

Why is it that giving choice to American girls causes them to act like they need to go on a sex bender, while the same result doesn’t happen in a place like Poland? What is restraining Polish girls from getting on the cock carousel and becoming an entitled slut?

In the past I’ve stated that Poland lacks enablers like feminism, liberalism, Jezebel, and a culture that promotes misandry and slutdom. These enablers are not the disease, but merely symptoms of the disease. There is a higher level phenomenon that enables the enablers: the elimination of traditional gender roles.

Traditional gender roles are best exemplified in modern Muslim societies where the man provides while the woman takes care of the home. A woman submits to a man’s power because, as dictated by nature, men have been given more intellect and strength than women. Traditional gender roles are opposed to the uglification, masculinization, and slutification that enablers advance in Western society today.

You won’t be feminine if you think men are the enemy instead of your provider. You won’t be feminine if you place career before family. You won’t be feminine if you have no shame for being an overweight tatted-up slut. Enablers, in effect, are creating a new breed of woman that only benefit men who profit from their labor (capitalists) while robbing value from a potential husband who wants a family and peaceful home.

If you go into a Polish club, you’ll see that the girls still have interactions with a high volume of men. They still have Facebook and iPhones and other features of American lifestyle that allows them to play the field and have choice in men. It’s not at as high of a level, but it’s prevalent enough that you will notice these things after just a couple days in the country. Nonetheless, you don’t see an equivalent decrease to their femininity (not yet, anyway). The amount of choice they experience doesn’t poison them like it does an American woman. It’s because Polish society hasn’t yet eliminated traditional gender roles. The degree of choice a woman has, combined with how traditional the gender roles are, compose the two greatest factors that determine the makeup of women in any society.

Let’s take a look at three different mixtures:

1. Zero Choice For Women + Strict Traditional Gender Roles
2. Some Choice For Women + Firm Traditional Gender Roles
3. Unlimited Choice For Women + No Traditional Gender Roles

If I were to ask you to assign a region of the world for each of the above three mixtures, could you do it?

1. Middle East
2. Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, South America
3. Western countries, Scandinavia

The combination of female choice and traditional gender roles create the women of a society, just like how mixing different colors of paint can create a specific pigmentation. High dating choice with an absence of traditional gender roles will create a male hell where women stop acting like women (Anglosphere). On the other hand, no dating choice in a culture where gender roles are strong will have women that you have to marry in order to have sex with (Iran).

Let’s say you are a 26-year-old man who wants to easily sleep around without concern for quality or feminine traits. Where would you go? Now how about if you want girls who make for feminine girlfriends but aren’t excruciatingly hard to get into the sack? Now how about if you want a virgin who will dedicate her life to you?

My guess is you prefer the second option. The reason why Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, and South America are so popular for Western men is that it offers a middle ground where you can have fun casual sex or find a pleasant girlfriend or wife without being the most interesting man in the world with game that rates in the top two percentile. Notice how many Western men who venture into Eastern Europe have increasing difficulty as they cross Poland and enter Ukraine and then Russia, where gender roles are stronger and you need additional knowledge or skill to navigate the waters. We can stray from our culture quite a ways until the learning curve becomes steep.

Feminism is a rightful boogeyman because it’s a mechanism for removing traditional gender roles while increasing dating choice for women. In fact, if there was a perfect poison for destroying women, eliminating the family unit, and lowering fertility rates, feminism would be like cyanide  Sometimes I can’t help but admire how effective this ideology has been in changing female behavior at great detriment to men, but as they say, you can’t put toothpaste back into the tube. This is why I advise men to go to places where there is still some toothpaste left to squeeze out.

There is an interesting failure of feminism that is worth mentioning: its inability to eliminate slut guilt, a mental process that I believe is genetically hardwired into the female brain and can not be wholly defeated. It’s so ingrained that even feminists attack sluts, though under the guise of other reasons. As slutty as the girl you fucked the other night is, she will still do her best to rationalize away her sluttiness or even verbally declare to you that she “doesn’t usually do this.” This is a reason why slut shaming will be a powerful way to affect the behavior of women for the rest of time.

When you meet a girl who values unlimited choice and comments about “sexism” or “misogyny,” two code words that suggest gender roles have been eliminated, you’re dealing with a slut who would make for a horrible wife. She still feels slut guilt, but her behavior will still be more slutty than the world average. You can safely ejaculate inside her without asking if she’s on the pill because she will not keep the baby. She does not want the unlimited choice party to end.

Increasing choice and reducing traditional gender roles are two factors that are rapidly destroying women. There will be further degradation going into the 22nd century with the annihilation of the family unit and rise of government co-parenting, where women will be raised via handbooks created in university programs that are approved by feminist and homosexual thought leaders. Unfortunately, things will not get better within our lifetime, but with this knowledge at hand, all you have to do is identity the type of women you want and then board an airplane to visit the country that has them.

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  1. EarthlyEros March 25, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Bravo, good post Roosh. Loved the toothpaste line.

  2. mike March 25, 2013 at 9:51 am

    Well thought out and intelligent post as usual.

  3. Actually POLAND IS DESTROYED ALREADY March 25, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Actually in Poland if a divorce is initiated after a male cheats on his wife,
    the male is likely to lose custody of his children, 50% of his wealth
    and be forced with larges financial obligations to his exwife
    and to the children, for the rest of his life.

    If a divorce is initiated after it is discovered that a female has
    cheated on her spouse,
    then the male is still likely to lose custody of his children (the
    ones that are his)
    and be forced to pay with large financial obligations even to the
    children that aren’t his.

    Judges in divorce cases are a large majority women,
    but the laws of divorce are also bended on women’s total advantage.

    Marriage is, in short, the real everyday story of male liability at
    all costs and in nearly all situations.
    It is the product of the divorce laws that, in effect,
    removed any protection for the men
    and replaced them with a system that incentivizes the initiation of
    divorce by women,
    regardless of their actions.

    [Roosh: How many times are you going to leave this comment?]

    1. Marina92 March 13, 2015 at 2:24 pm

      That’s anti-feminist for ya. If you want women to be feminine, you gotta be okay with giving up all your money after you divorce. I’m anti-feminist (I love to cook, clean, make my husband feel special), I do everything in the house, cook, do the groceries, take care of guests, decorate the home and I do it all wearing high heels and sexy dresses, all my husband has to do is work and come home. I’m Always faithful to him, I Always put him first, I was a virgin when we married, the least he can do for me is love me back and stay faithful to me. If that man will cheat on me, of course I want half of his money. How else am I gonna maintain myself if I stayed at home for so many years, no-one will hire me. As for the woman having full custody: of course. The man goes off to work during the day and is too busy f***ing hot new sl*ts after the divorce, he’s got no time for kids anyway. It makes sense, don’t you think?

      1. SUPRA luca April 26, 2015 at 8:47 pm

        That you love to be a housewife (you don’t have to clean your fucking house wearing high heels though, now do you? that’s bad for your physical health) doesn’t mean you have to be against women who love to work outside and men who are househusbands. Freedom of choice is good, my friend.
        On the rest, yes, that’s a fair exchange.

      2. shywolfie October 28, 2015 at 10:41 pm

        You know it’s possible to do all that and still work, I do. (kids are out, I would very likely have to give up my ability to walk as I have a ligament issue in my hip) The added benefit is if he can’t fix the car, I can and do.

  4. Actually POLAND IS DESTROYED ALREADY March 25, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Well Poland is very far from being heaven on Earth. Praising Poland constantly will not be changing the actual facts

  5. Pete March 25, 2013 at 11:05 am


    I think the word “gender” should not be in use at all in the manosphere. It is an invention of the same feminists we hate, in order to take biology out of the equation and be of whatever “gender” you feel. The right word is sex.


    1. SUPRA luca October 16, 2014 at 10:34 pm

      The word gender has been around way before feminism. Gender and sex are different things.

      1. ricksantos01 April 11, 2015 at 4:25 pm

        Agreed BUT gender and biological sex are closely linked. Its been proven men are naturally better in more masculine and physical tasks and women more feminine/nurturing and caring type tasks. Femenism/Genderism will eventually die or fade out. Its wholly dependant on government and male support participation. Economy and society globally is going to poops. Americans are getting poorer and womem are more impacted by this. God willing nature will reset things. Thanks

      2. SUPRA luca April 26, 2015 at 8:42 pm

        Men as a group obviously have greater strength and have greater stamina, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they are “better” at the same task if you equalize the strength and stamina. That just means they can take more and get tired not as fast. I get your point, though.
        Again, that’s very difficult to prove something that is developed later in life is “natural”, inside of a sociocultural context. I would bet women, who naturally have motherly instincts, could be more inclined to be nurturing with their babies than men, yes. And because of the physical differences, men would do most of the heavier lift while women do the most domestic/caring. Once again, the world is developed and industrialized, so we can be a lot more free (in fact, even before it we can still find plenty of cultures where women were doing mostly everything men were also doing, and where men were considered as much as caring and nurturing).
        But on the rest… how people dress, how they groom themselves, their tastes, their dreams and ambitions, how relationships work and the norms… that’s pretty much social/cultural. In my Country we don’t have much “gender” talk, but we still know pretty clearly that what’s perceived as feminine and masculine will never be consistent and is always changing. And most intelligent, civilized people will try their best to accept it, adapt and get their best out of it, being themselves as much as they can and respecting the differences as much as they can.

      3. John March 11, 2018 at 3:00 pm

        Excellent points, ricksantos01!

    2. Stephanie hardin May 14, 2018 at 3:11 pm

      Wait what are you talking about exactly?The word gender triggers you for some odd reason?And your own buddy used it countless times so you are beyond confounding

  6. JJ Roberts March 25, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Seems to me like …

    Unlimited Choice For Women + Firm Traditional Gender Roles

    … would be the solution.

    Slut shaming ain’t gonna get you there.

  7. Quintus Curtius March 25, 2013 at 11:18 am

    Traditional societies in Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and (formerly) in Europe had a deep awareness that unrestricted promiscuity in women would eventually lead to socially harmful outcomes. Examples of such harmful outcomes would be the corrosion of the family unit, and chaos in the inheritance and property law system. Customs such as footbinding in China, gender segregation in the Middle East, the custom of the suttee in old India, infibulation in Africa, and patriarchal dominance in Europe served some social function, despite seeming “barbaric” to modern Western eyes. Otherwise these customs would not have lasted for so long. The modern crusading feminist do-gooder in Africa has no idea of the wisdom and valid lineage behind traditional tribal practices.
    The abandonment of traditional sex roles was a conscious decision by American women. It was not forced on them. Even with technological and social change, it is still possible for a modern society to preserve traditional gender roles (Japan is an example) and keep women sexy and feminine. American society is an aberration, because it seems that women here made a deliberate decision to reject traditional gender norms. The result, as we all know, has been a catastrophe. Irreversible social decay has taken hold, and will continue.
    We could learn a lot from traditional societies, and we should not be so quick to denounce them.

    1. SUPRA luca October 16, 2014 at 10:41 pm

      American men are not traditionally masculine (educated, civilized, artistic, graceful, benevolent and kind) or sexy (dressing well, greater grooming regime, etc.) as well. Who are you idiots to try to say women should be something you guys haven’t been for way longer (in a masculine way)?
      (Straight) Female promiscuity does not exist without (straight) male promiscuity. And men have been promiscuous all the way, even when women were shamed into marrying as virgins, with prostitutes – that would get pregnant by these men, spread diseases, etc. Many of these prostitutes were poor women with no choices that these “amazing” men where abusing just for their fun – while still expecting a virgin wife lol. And you wonder why women would want better things than marry hypocrites. Not “masculine” at all.

      1. John Doe October 27, 2014 at 9:11 am

        Roosh is a walking example. All he spends his time is writing this damn website (Read the articles in it, a lot of them are stupid). That f***ing faggot needs to get a life rather than spend all his time and energy trying to get laid. Now if he had a 9-5 job, that would be a different story but it seems like this is a kind of guy who travels a lot to get laid and when he comes back to the US, lives in his parent’s basement at age 30+. What kind of adult does this?! A F****ING LOSER! Being a masculine man (or a woman) ain’t always about getting laid and having a virgin wife at the same time! Inconsistent, Roosh! You are a man slut and a lot of the girls you fuck are too! Slut shaming yet you are one too you fucking hypocrite! If female sluts exist, then there are man sluts too! You sir, are one, and a pathetic one!

        “If you ain’t got no money, take your broke ass home”
        -says Fergie

      2. SUPRA luca April 26, 2015 at 9:18 pm

        Now isn’t that the truth? I only disagree when you say a lot of his articles are stupid. I actually think all of his articles are stupid, and a product of a very degenerate mind.

      3. Stephanie hardin May 14, 2018 at 3:13 pm

        I agree wholeheartedly.

      4. Northsider September 24, 2015 at 2:41 pm

        “Now if he had 9-5 job, that would be a different story.”
        Unwittingly I think you’ve revealed the core of the modern man problem – their whole pathetic needy dependence – desperately hoping and planning from high school to get a nice cushy 9-5 job courtesy of some nerdy weed made good like Steve Jobs or Bill Gates – a job where they feel safe and secure and are told what to do all day (increasingly by some ball-breaking feminazi) – usually while hunched over a computer – while their balls, their brains and their souls gradually shrivel into nothingness. Roosh’s lifestyle is not one I’d choose, or even condone – but at least it shows some manly dissatisfaction with the status quo – whereas most modern man have gone down the feminine passive root of accepting the sterile 9-5 existence. In any case most of the 9 to fivers are man sluts as well – it’s part of their feminine herd mentality to do what the man on the telly says is cool and macho.

      5. Northsider September 24, 2015 at 3:50 pm

        I just noticed I spelled “route” the wrong way in my previous comment!

      6. alli February 5, 2016 at 6:55 am

        ‘feminine’ herd mentality, well you’ve just aptly described how there is also a ‘masculine herd mentality’

    2. xstratusx December 14, 2014 at 8:39 am

      Doesn’t promiscuity in men also lead to socially harmful outcomes?

      1. precluder January 1, 2015 at 6:15 am

        So you double promiscuity by encouraging women also to be promiscuous?

      2. SUPRA luca April 26, 2015 at 8:54 pm

        If straight men are being promiscuous, straight women are also beign promiscuous by default.

      3. Yoga Matt September 29, 2015 at 2:11 pm

        Most men are not promiscuous. Most women aren’t either. Even in countries that are “socially liberal” with “hook up cultures” like the US, the overwhelming majority of men and women are not sleeping with a lot of different partners.

      4. shywolfie October 28, 2015 at 11:01 pm

        Thank you!

      5. Stephanie hardin May 14, 2018 at 3:16 pm

        Precisely.But logic escapes people often .

      6. Stephanie hardin May 14, 2018 at 3:15 pm

        Yes of course they outcome is parallel .I’m really thrilled to see how many cool guys are in this thread and not too many gullible dorks

    3. Franciscanesta August 22, 2016 at 11:05 pm

      Even the traditional south east asian countries still will give the custody to the women in divorce, especially when the children are below 5 years old.
      In Indonesia, the reason of giving custody to the mother is because men are douchebags here (really… after expecting the wife to be perfect and take care of the children they still like to cheat and hit the wife).
      Plus here mothers are seen as the first “school” and “nurturer” and they are supposed to give the early education to their children.
      If divorce happens when the Child is below 3 years old, the court would give the custody straightaway to the mother coz the mother is expected to give breastfeeding until the child is 2 yo, changing diapers,potty training etc, which fathers here are sooo reluctant to do.
      But then the court investigates the mother’s condition too (is she alcoholic, like to do child abuse, is she the one who cheats all the time?).
      After 5 yo, usually court here will ask the children with whom they prefer to stay, with dad/mom. Coz here we believe small children are the true witnesses about their parents’ problems. Usually if the children saw that the father abuses their mother, the children have their own opinion that the mother is the victim so they prefer to stay with their mother.
      About alimony, it’s about who has bigger money…
      And the father still can negotiate about child care support if he doesn’t have enough money.
      Usually, the women who divorce because of being abused would want the divorce quickly happen, even without child support or alimony, as long as they can run away from those psycho husbands.

  8. Trogdor:DrPeppa March 25, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Actually, Heading further east and south gives better results. African women for the next possibility!

    1. xstratusx December 14, 2014 at 9:11 am

      That’s right, ruin another continent. Soon all you will have left is Antarctica.

      1. SUPRA luca April 26, 2015 at 9:21 pm

        And they will be telling us how penguins make better wives (I heard both males and females don’t slut around).

  9. Shawn March 25, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Technology has made tradition obsolete. Get to work bitch the house can clean itself.

    1. xstratusx December 14, 2014 at 9:06 am

      How about, get to work and make that money so women can take half of it? Neither attitude is helpful.

  10. Europe rules March 25, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    The hordes of american betas,descending on eastern european shores will destroy our market.

    Just look what Roosh is writing in his guides.Ridiculous.Dating a ukrainian for a year,being played like a child by a lithuanian,paying for them,kissing their ass,”the only game you need is to kiss eastern european woman’s ass”.

    Oh man,oh man.Bad times are coming for us too.You f*cked up your market back in states,due to lack of balls,and now coming to the steppes full of gold diggers on hills.

    I already know couple of americans living in eastern europe,completely enslaved and domesticated by the biatches.One guy just finished building a house over there and the subject of divorce is already in the air.

  11. Greek kamaki March 25, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    It has all to do with economic grounds.A polish woman who makes the same money as a US woman will behave the same or even worse.They appear sweet etc to get what they want.
    Truth is in slavic societies women do not have many chances for professional advancement that is why they need a man.The only way to live comfortably are to emigrate, become a prostitute or marry a man with means.

    Slavs keep giving low chances for jobs to women, which is bad for productivity but keeps them feminine.Americans tend to pedestrialize these women like they have been taught not understanding that this pedestrialiazation has led to the western women entitlement monsterism.

    Basically Americans think they have seen the future and the future is mix while the future is the past.

    When slavic women get the same chances as western women after emigrating to the West they reach worse states of bitchiness.There are many worthy guys in the West meaning unlimited choice by women.Most of these guys are wannabe pussy slaves.

    The feeling that polish society lacks immigrants and as a result is more virgin to western impression is an illusion.What is usually celebrated is the level of gullibility and naivity of some slavic women which is never displayed by Germaic women.Polish women are simply easier to lie to they are receptive to lies and do not investigate.This is quite clear to Balkan individuals.

  12. IPFreeley March 25, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    There is a concern here Roosh. If so many guys like yourself keep hyping and writing about certain overseas countries, then wouldn’t it destroy the country’s traditions there?

    Europeans, help me out here. I’m European myself, and I feel that if all these well-off North American men start coming en-masse to Europe looking for casual sex, it’s going to destabilize and upset the traditional society there and change women for the worse.

    While I see many of you criticize Russian women for being cold to foreigners, I believe Russia is doing the right thing. They are fighting back hard against foreigners because they are trying to preserve their culture and traditions.

    Also look at the Middle East, where all this conflict is eroding their traditions.

    I agree with much of what you say Roosh, including how messed up North America is, but isn’t running away from North America to other countries eventually going to cause problems as well? I mean if a few guys do it that’s okay, but if thousands and thousands of beta North American males read stuff like this and then go to Europe desperately seeking lots of casual sex, then I think that is a very bad thing long-term.

    There’s no easy solution here, but feminism HAS to be abolished in Western society, things need to go back to traditional roles, or I think we need a worldwide natural disaster or world war to shake a lot of Western men and women out of their deluded thinking.

    1. xstratusx December 14, 2014 at 9:13 am

      Exactly. I fail to see how having sex with a Euro woman means she’s wife material but if she was American she would be a slut.

    2. geno March 2, 2016 at 7:45 am

      you just nailed it…. a worldwide natural disaster and/or World War.. is the only thing that’s going to wake up men and women. and there is no need to worry for thousands and thousands of betas to cross over to Europe.. for casual sex. the majority of American men are too heavily programmed… and are too pussified to even have the balls to do such a thing. I may be one of the few that have made it. out of America and has lived in Eastern Europe for 7 years. I love it over there. I’m more of an alpha male.. that’s the only type of man that they respect and they want there. if you’re not a real man you’ll get eaten alive there just like you will in America

  13. Andrew S March 25, 2013 at 2:19 pm


  14. Sid March 25, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    “When slavic women get the same chances as western women after emigrating to the West they reach worse states of bitchiness.There are many worthy guys in the West meaning unlimited choice by women.Most of these guys are wannabe pussy slaves.”

    Right. Slavic women, after acclimating to Western attitudes and options, are if anything even icier and more mercenary than Western women – the Russians at least. The problem is that since they’re so cute, it’s easy to fall victim to the idea that they’re angelic from the outside in.

  15. RUSSIAN WIVES March 25, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Just look what Roosh is writing in his guides. Dating a ukrainian for a year,being played like a child by a lithuanian, paying for them, kissing their ass,
    ”the only game you need is to kiss eastern european woman’s ass”.

    It is true that polish and lithuanians have unfortunately already turned quite slutty, soon they will become like americans and that will be the end

  16. Anonymous March 25, 2013 at 5:20 pm

    Roosh is on fire

  17. @Greek Troll March 25, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    Spare us your bullshit please, I have enough of your elementary school philosophy. You sound retarded. You are constantly trolling the EE topics, with the mighty Balkan made up wisdom. What the hell means Slavic woman? Are Slavs a separate race? How can you put in the same sack women from Poland, Serbia or Slovenia? Are you trying to say that over 300 millions of people are just the same? There is no such thing. You wanna sound like an expert, but to someone who posses IQ higher than a vacuum cleaner you sound like a troll and an almost 40 year old retard and the worst part is that the other guys are buying it.

  18. doug March 25, 2013 at 6:20 pm

    “There will be further degradation going into the 22nd century with the annihilation of the family unit and rise of government co-parenting, where women will be raised via handbooks created in university programs that are approved by feminist and homosexual thought leaders.”

    History doesn’t move in straight lines. Bring forth the backlash.

  19. Tom Dane March 25, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    “Are Slavs a separate race? ”

  20. NN March 25, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    Guys come on don’t sound like women,you all want to have sex with new girls every night but than complain like “where have all the good girls go”.A lot of you here if given the choice right now to marry a nice girl who will stay at home while you provide to the family would say fuck no you want to travel,fuck new bitches,make money for yourself.

    In the old days if you were a loser you would stay a loser,there was no internet to teach you anything there weren’t gazilion books about any issue.If you were born poor you had much less chance of becoming rich.Today every broke motherfucker can enjoy a hedonistic lifestyle and those who work very hard usually make something of themselves.While traditional family is getting destroyed this world is perfect for a lifestyle that these blogs teach so i don’t understand the bitching.

  21. @Tom Dane March 25, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    You are either an american ignorant, a Troll or an Indian guy, but most likely all three

  22. Jason March 25, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    Roosh i would eventually like to be married and have children, a middle eastern virgin girl would be ideal. I’m a white male aged in his late 20s and financially well off. Is there any advice you could give to help me achieve my goal?

    1. SUPRA luca October 16, 2014 at 10:47 pm

      Buy a blow-up doll. She won’t be able to compare your bad sex skills and small dick to other men. I mean, even a virgin woman could compare if she has been watching porn, so…

  23. just jess March 25, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    “You won’t be feminine if you have no shame for being an overweight tatted-up slut” regardless of what the article says after this comment, aaahh who gives a fuck.. fuck fat tatted up sluts.

  24. just jess March 25, 2013 at 9:56 pm

    I am not a feminist American woman, and most of my friends are not either. Due to the economics of today’s cost of living, most couples I know both have to work full-time. Honestly even that barely cuts it financially for a family. So if women have no choice but to work, and the average working class man has no choice to but rely on two incomes too support a family, then where does that leave your average American couple according to your standards? I am Polish and Puerto Rican, Straight off the boat for both. Both sides of my ethnicity are living in poverty within their own Motherlands.

    How can an American woman be both Feminine and yet at the same time, support her family, AKA, children, even with a decent partner?

    1. shywolfie October 28, 2015 at 10:57 pm

      #1 stop listening/reading this trash, especially the part about men being smarter. I rarely run into men who can hold a candle to what I learn and can do. This isn’t just american men I’m talking about, I’ve been all over. #2 being feminine means that you can still be girlish while getting things done. So what if I’m getting greasy fixing cars or aircraft My hair, nails, and make up are done with a spritz of my favorite ed hardy perfume. And before I go home I clean up and put on my pretty clothes. Do the shopping, balance the budget, do the laundry, cook dinner, and clean the house. Want to know how I get it all done? I don’t watch TV, and schedule out my week in advance.

  25. Beidas March 25, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    22 Jason

    Dude, I’m sorry, but there’s a REASON they wear abayas

  26. just jess March 25, 2013 at 11:17 pm

    Hey American boys, get your shit off, get American chicks pregnant, and then pretend it is their fault. They are bringing you down. Is the average man who plants his seed inside a woman a chump? Hey Chump Change, American woman are shit, they are non-feminist pieces of fat tattooed shit.The fact that within the economic societal class that exists, if you do choose to have have a family or nut in a hoe, most likely, your combined incomes will only reach $100,000. And unfortunately, working class man, that is not enough to eliminate the need for a woman to work. Woman are not all , even the slightly feminist females said FUCK YOU BITCH! , for example.

  27. Nigel Davis March 26, 2013 at 1:07 am

    Wait a second Roosh, I agree, but hold up…

    we can still count on obesity to keep the pussy flowing. As women get fatter and sluttier, they’ll need more male validation to feel good ’bout themselves. They won’t be wife material, but I wager notch counts will rise as men lower their standards and open up to big game 😉

  28. John Rambo March 26, 2013 at 2:04 am

    22nd century? Roosh, come on, I thought you were smarter than this. What makes you think the modern liberal culture is not in the process of collapsing right now, at this very moment? Remember, East Europe/Russia was where feminism first started, around 1917 or so. America is actually about 40 or so years behind Russia in feminism. Russia/EE is a post-feminist society, NOT a pre-feminist one.

    Feminism destroys men’s desire to get married, and after 70 or 80 years of feminism and men simply no longer interested in marriage, THEN you see a big change in the behavoirs and attitudes of women, which is what happened in EE/Russia. It needs to be understood that EE/Russia is a post feminist society, and that this is the end result of feminism- men giving up on marriage in great numbers, and women reacting to this by becoming feminine again, so they can try to bait men into marrying them.

  29. surrey jack March 26, 2013 at 3:26 am

    latin america ee an east asia is where ull find em. But armenia an georgia has tons of girls that are virgins an a very good place to wife hunt..
    @ ipeefreely
    u really brought a good point cuz they will influence change even more drastically….tv n internet is already doin enuff damage as it is

    roosh u forgot south asia africa n east asia whom id rate 1.5 ,1 n 2 ..respectvly…..2 is ideal

  30. surrey jack March 26, 2013 at 3:26 am

    latin america ee an east asia is where ull find em. But armenia an georgia has tons of girls that are virgins an a very good place to wife hunt..g

    @ ipeefreely
    u really brought a good point cuz they will influence change even more drastically….tv n internet is already doin enuff damage as it is

    roosh u forgot south asia africa n east asia whom id rate 1.5 ,1 n 2 ..respectvly…..2 is ideal

  31. surrey jack March 26, 2013 at 3:29 am

    U basicallly proved why latin america eastern europe n south east asia are the best…though id perfer north east asian over southeast asian

    i wonder why are fillipino n thai women are more popular?whats wrong with japanses n koreans

  32. dannyfrom504 March 26, 2013 at 7:19 am

    my mother is a SAHM, and yet…..she taught me a TON of game. most of it dealt with having self respect.

    and her mexican-cajun ass was always a lady, and she taught me how to screen for a quality woman.

  33. SJ March 26, 2013 at 11:24 am

    Few American men travel overseas so I doubt that the EE and Latin ladies will get poisoned unless they move to USA.

  34. wolf March 26, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    Good post roosh… I’ve known what you posted for years now. Pretty soon you will choose… Marriage or Mgtow? Remember Mgtow still sleeps with sluts if we want to but we don’t marrry them. Lol

  35. IshitonToronto March 26, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    @ 12, 30, 32

    Having read what Roosh posted, and though about it, I agree with you guys in different ways.

    I agree that this might pose a problem in the future. What are your thoughts Roosh?

    I think us MEN need to be not be so obsessed with casual sex, but focus more on getting with great girls that can be good wives and mothers. If we promote that, then hopefully we can help real change occur.

    As for stopping the feminist epidemic, we men obviously need to continue to MAN UP and put women in their proper place. We men also MUST absolutely give no attention to these feminist bitches, let them starve of attention and die out of the evolutionary chain.

    We MEN need to only give attention to real women, feminine women who have feminine traits and qualities.

    I think change starts from yourself. I live in Canada, and while I have European roots and am tempted to live in Europe, for the time being I am committed to living in Canada, in a smaller type of town, in a more rural area, and finding a great women for a girlfriend and a wife. If I don’t find one here, then yes I’ll likely to go Europe.

    I feel though if all of us decent, real MEN sought out, and went out of our way to settle down with good, feminine women it will help to fight this feminism. Yes, good real women are rare in North America, but they are out there. Not usually in clubs, or bars, but out on the street, in bookstores and libraries, and in other public places.

    1. SUPRA luca April 26, 2015 at 9:41 pm

      “Good feminine” women will only like traditional masculine men. By calling women “bitches” you already showed you have no diplomacy and education, so they would never care about you.

      The things is simple: people are free to play whatever role they want to, and that is great. So be who you want to be and date the ones who are like you (don’t to be a “slut” but then try to marry a virgin, that’s not how that works, hypocrites. if “sluts” are bad, you are one so of course you are BAD for marriage as well). That’s all.

  36. IshitonToronto March 26, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    Also forgot to add @ 32,

    let’s hope it stays that way. Part of what makes many of those overseas cultures so great is that they have resisted foreign or Western influence, and I can only hope they continue to resist that influence.

  37. Keoni Galt March 26, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    “There will be further degradation going into the 22nd century with the annihilation of the family unit and rise of government co-parenting, where women will be raised via handbooks created in university programs that are approved by feminist and homosexual thought leaders.”

    This has ALREADY happened, and is the very reason why things are the way they are right now!

  38. Nina March 26, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    Danish women , feminist women , fat beautyful women , Américan women scandinavian , east european asían women etc etc the gender roles… You write a lot of what you see but seem really not to KNOW much deep about it. Look, spending a month on Eurorail , stepping out of the train for a night or two in a country does not give you nor anyone a good overview of a culture, dynamics and sociaty to write with property and make comparisons between cultures.
    No doubt you are not an antropologist and you write kind of a backpack diary so like the profile of people who read your blog .

    I am just lucky of having nothing to do today and jump into this blog. And lucky you to have this advise: get to use more time studying,spending time in a country , it takes money of course and patience get to LIVE a culture and many if possible THAT will give you an overview. And get you a partner, you seem having issues with women in general and in general writting too much crap!!

    [Roosh: I lived in Copenhagen for two months. That’s a little longer than “a night or two,” isn’t it? How many years do I have to suffer in Denmark to know that (1) you’re unattractive and (2) it’s a shitty place for men?]

    1. SUPRA luca April 26, 2015 at 9:45 pm

      She was talking about knowing the culture, Roosh. And of course that is a shitty place for men, there are too many “Ninas” who easily see you have problems with women and think too much crap in general lol.

  39. Stuki March 26, 2013 at 5:48 pm


    As long as ‘we real men’ are content to let scummy men and slutty women take the fruits of our labor, and use it at their own discretion; what ‘we’ do changes nothing at all.

    Afghanistan has avoided the entire problem of progressivism, not because every single man, woman and child over there has figured that progressivism, of which feminism is only a part, is nothing but an unmitigated tragedy; but rather because everyone there are sufficiently clued in to realize that whomever comes dragging to your door demanding you hand over your stuff to them, and do as they say; because they are divinely ordained kings, edumecated experts or popularity contest winning slick talkers or whatever; are just saying that to get you to hand over your stuff and bend over. Not because they care. Not because they magically know better than you what is the best way for you to spend your life and stuff. But simply because they want to take your stuff and like to see others bent over.

    So, being thus enlightened, the Afghans do what they have always done when someone comes dragging to their door with demands; they kill them. Simplest and most sensible thing in the world; and the only proven way to avoid being progressively more enslaved by one merry band of charlatan snake oil salesmen or another. Which is why, for centuries and milennia, noone has ever been able to extract much in the way of spoils, neither of taxes nor women from them. Resulting in them generally being left alone. No taxes, no alimony, no assholes banging their wives on the sly. None of any of it. Simply because they have the darned sense to kill all and any who would even contemplate doing to them any of the above. Clever buggers, those guys.

  40. Mountain View March 26, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    If one or two generations of permissiveness for women is enough for them to stop acting feminine, then femininity must not be as “natural” as you are implying that it is/should be.

    I suggest that men and women have this human trait in common: given half a chance, they will act to maximize personal gain in whatever way they can. The moment women were permitted by biological intervention (the pill) and cultural change (feminism et al), many of them ***decided*** to stop behaving in a “traditional/natural feminine” way.

    1. Ebony December 30, 2014 at 10:52 am

      My god. Actual logic in a river of pseudo-intellectual shit. Swim away, Mountain View, before Roosh gets back from complaining to his parents that their basement’s too cold. He’ll get annoyed by your clever comment and have no choice but to revert to his only trick: to sassily let you know he thinks your “(1) unattractive”.

      If you respond with more evidence that gender is performative he will probably an hero in sad realisation that he has been eroticising regular human beings all along instead of these magical, submissive creatures he thinks is purely the result of biology.

    2. Crisrose June 7, 2015 at 12:29 am

      Now that women make as much or more than men there’s no reason to marry for survival. Men must bring something to the table. When they can’t, they flee to impoverished countries where the women are desperate.

  41. anon1 March 26, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    I feel like the essence of what your post is what i’ve been commenting forever and a day for on ROK.

    Glad you’ve codified it, kind of pissed you didn’t earlier tbh

  42. Shawn March 26, 2013 at 6:58 pm

    @41 Stuki

    Some next level MGTOW.

  43. moses March 27, 2013 at 4:10 am

    A simple test to see if a country still has traditional masculine/feminine roles: Look at the stewards/stewardesses on one of their airlines.

    Young, female, hot, trained to please customers? Yep, traditional. See Singapore Airlines, Korean Air, Emirates Air, all Japanese airlines.

    Old crones, fat, unkept, surly and/or skinny uber gay dudes? See any American airline.

    European airlines are hit or miss.

  44. Alpha Mission March 27, 2013 at 6:03 am

    Roosh, you are on fire man. Thank you sir. An excellent article to start the day

  45. Ruxman March 27, 2013 at 8:27 am

    Not bad, the ending was a bit devastating though. maybe humans won’t have the attention spans to read in the 22nd Century so there won’t be a government upbringing based on regulated handbooks.

  46. Anonymous March 28, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    Why do you libertarian faggots exalt the free market when it comes to business, but turn into complete bitches when the same principles are applied to sex and relationships? When the fuck did you homos turn into such moralizing prudes?

  47. sophia March 29, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    Im a 27 year old girl (woman?) and Ive been reading this blog for years. When i started, I was a 24 year old virgin who had been on some casual dates and has a couple of kisses but nothing more. I was shy and repressed. I had always focused on school and work. Im Russian and had strict parents and was raised very tradirionally. I began reading this blog at 22, still a virgin who knew that i only wanted to meet the right man to devote my life too and give him my mind body and soul untouched,and the blog helped me learn a lot about men, who i knew nothing about. It took me through finally starting dating and now being with my botfriend of 3 years, the onlt guy i have been with, and who i work hard to trear like a king. Russians teach their daughters how to take care of a man from an early age, but beyond that,, this is my first and only love and boufriend, and I have been having agreat time learning to please him. We love each other deeply and he doesnt have money or status..he is young (23) and eager and motivated and super smart, but we treat each other very well and enjoy each others company. Roosh helped me underdtand whst he was thinking a lot and how to make him hapoy.

    Especiallt because my boyfriend is a natural alpha, who never even came close to committing to a girl because he says he couldnt find one worthy of his respect and who actually interested him as a person too, and with rooshs blogs insight i could understand his dynamic and have helped us make the relationship healthy and positive even in difficult circumstances. Thank you roosh for helping me. This bkog is not just for hooking up, but it can really help you get a fresh or deeper perspective on relationships, and although i had a headstart being russian haha, it helped me build a loving caring fulfilling relationship with the love of my life. I hope everyone here believes they can have it because if i can, anyone can. I had the odds stacked against me and a pretty crazy history, and im also the kind of girl most people dont meet everyday and what you guys hope to find, so i know you guys have good girls ahead of you. If anyways interested in more of my story, j cam tell it, but im sure youre already bored sick as it is.

    Anyway, theres a lot of discussion on here about different cultures and gender roles and the problems with western women, etc.
    I think the fact that i was raised in a different culture (russian) and stayed close to the community throughoit my teens, and then learned more about american culture and started living a more american life, i thjnk i might be able to offer a different perspective, and my comments on these types of posts.

    I was taught that while men and women are equal in worth, they are different, and those differences provide the joy and color, the Yin and Yang of spiritual harmony with nature, or just the plain old sugar and spice of life.If you reduce those differences, you ruin the delicate balance and weaken the most powerful gift and most basic need of humans from birth.Men and women, at their best, give each other that intimacy and love and support that makes us human.

    You can say it isnsappy, but without it, we are nothing but animals. One look at the damaged, broken, families of the ghetto, and the callous, inhuman men it breeds and the debased, desperate, mercenary women that worship them shows the rest of the country’s, and Western civiizations future. That is the end result of the current generation of little high school porn stars, who are exhibitionists to the extreme, desperate for attention, lost and angry, and using sex, consumerism, and even drugs to stifle their rage and frustration at being robbed of life’s most natural rights and pleasures, love, a family, a community, a sense of self worth, responsibility to others and to self. We are caged animals numbing our pain with what is literally the opiate of the masses.At a crucial point in our society, when youth has been damaged and their future stolen before their eyes, if this were any other time and place, the young people would rise up with fiery passion and inexhaustible energy to demand or force a change. Of course, sometimes this change was worse, but sometimes it was noble and powerful. Yet thus generation is content to be fattened for slaughter, rolling over and allowing the butcher to pat its belly as it sucks down slop of every kind, and all the while he rubs his blade back and forth in anticipation.As in 1984 and Brave New World, sex has become a tool of manipulation.

    In one of the stories, it is repressed and harnessed for political gain, while in the other, empty meaningless sex, without pregnancy ever an option, is encouraged heavily. While both types have been practiced by governments around the world before, they are basically the same concept. Human sexuality, love, desire, and passion are incredibly strong and vital urges.However, they can be manipulated.

    If the sex drive is repressed and love and family ties are destroyed or undermined, the tremendous untapped energy can be redirected toward political propoganda and rabid patriotism.If the sex drive is encouraged to the point of mania and all emotional and and love connections are burned out and rendered meaningless, this in turn can stifle the drive to care about society, to muster up enough anger to protest, much less risk ones life. In this case, the government can pacify young people it fears could rebel and deems a threat.That is what I think is happening, People are being stripped of their humanity, fooled into thinking their basic impulses must be satisfied at all costs, that these impulses matter above intagible and difficult things like dignity and integrity and compassion and true connection to another person. If people can learn to separate themselves from mainstream society’s every norm and contract and think for themselves, they will find this sacred unwavering band light in themselves, and in another, and they’ll discover the true power of their own hearts desire.I’m sorry this sounds cheesy, but I lost faith in people long ago, and I initially read this site in horror at how little men respected women these days.

    Experiencing what I have has shown me that game is just lonely and confused men’s way of coping with damaged women and getting some of their affection, while women love themselves so little that they can’t imagine being worth more than their butt and their lips.I will finally stop. I’m sorry to hijack this board, I’ve read this site for five years, as well as Heartiste, but never dared to post because I felt I had nothing interesting to say. I probably still don’t but maybe one sentence of mine will offer some new idea or opinion, or maybe someone will be curious to know my story and the problems I face, and help me use the knowledge of human nature that we study to figure out how to proceed in myrelstionship. Or just talk for a bit…I’ve never found anyone to bring thus up with without them screaming.I’ve loved reading all these posts and the comments, I would love to offer a womens perspective on some of it, especially with my backgound, which I didn’t go into detail on,but which is probably one of the most unusual I know.I would love any comments about any of this, Sorry again for the rambling.

    1. Levi Bond Jr. May 16, 2014 at 11:05 am

      Beautiful. Not cheesy at all. Simply truth… God bless you and your boyfriend!

    2. JustAGirl May 18, 2014 at 9:28 pm

      I have a pretty similar situation, except I’m still saving it for the right guy 🙂 I like how my culture raises us in a traditional household. Although I might work after marriage if money is tight, if still make sure he had a nice home to come to.

    3. Roosh's future wifey! August 4, 2014 at 2:37 am

      I thought this was a joke. I thought it was funny. I laughed out loud and showed it to friends saying, “Look at this hilarious satirist!”
      Apparently, you are not.
      I don’t want to make psychological waves here, but are we compensating for something?
      Did mom not love you enough?
      Did you want to fuck your sister?
      Is your dick/face/personality/intellect a bit below protocol?
      Just curious.
      Also, “slutification” isn’t a real thing. I’m looking out for you. You want to keep up the “mentally superior” shtick, so just know that. Slutification. Nope.
      A feminist
      JK I’m a skinny, quiet, nice girl who would like nothing more than to put extra bacon on your sandwich after birthing your six children.
      Call me!

    4. SUPRA luca October 16, 2014 at 10:57 pm

      “While women love themselves so little that they can’t imagine being worth more than their butt and their lips”
      That is exactly what men like Roosh and all the other idiots slaves that follow him think of women. Even a “virgin good girl” like you is an inferior human for them, that should be oppressed, controlled and shamed.

  48. arred wade March 29, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    Sophia, that was literally one of the most beautiful things I’ve ever read and I encourage you to write q blog about your experience to balance out a lot of the negative perspectives floating around.

  49. Anonymous March 29, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    “Experiencing what I have has shown me that game is just lonely and confused men’s way of coping with damaged women and getting some of their affection, while women love themselves so little that they can’t imagine being worth more than their butt and their lips.”

    God damn. This is going to be my first post here too. Just want to say what you wrote has touched me for the first time I can remember since first becoming aware of Neil Strauss’ The Game after my first serious girlfriend dumped me. It was then that I decided women could not be trusted, I could never give into their demands.

    Along came a girl who was a bit of a party goer. She really liked me but I made sure never to get into a relationship with her. I was going out with multiple women and what not. When I came back to her and tried to feel her up she just said “no, sorry” and walked out and we never talked again. That was it. I will never know if I made the right decision in not asking her to be my girlfriend but my immediate thought was she probably found another guy and my game wasn’t tight enough to keep her.

    “Twas right said they,
    Such whores to lay
    That bring such pain and grief”

    Lately I’ve had very little motivation to go out and get girls. I’ve been focusing on my work more and more. Sometimes I even think I might want a girlfriend but then I recall my past experiences and little by little I become more bitter at women. And I kick myself for becoming more beta. But I also kick myself for spending money to go to clubs just so I can get laid (cheap prostitution with women causing grief before they leave). And again I sometimes catch myself saying “I wish I could just cuddle up with a loyal girlfriend”.

    “Twas wrong, said they
    such girls to slay
    That bring love and relief”

    It touched me because a woman said it. Maybe you are a lying whore, or some government spambot dedicated to infiltration of the manosphere networks to get men back to marrying up used old rags, but I really hope I meet a woman like you (describe?).

    1. SUPRA luca March 7, 2014 at 2:22 pm

      If you are also an used rag, why not marry another one? Wake up, hypocrites.

      1. Yashuragi July 8, 2014 at 5:55 pm

        Since you’re a stupid keyboard warrior who does nothing but post stupid comments on a blog, you should probably marry a spouse who is stupid as well. Wake up hypocrite. You are a dumb keyboard warrior.

      2. SUPRA luca October 16, 2014 at 11:00 pm

        Don’t worry, I would only marry someone like me. No hypocrite here, unlike you.
        I could say the same thing about you, that you are a stupid keyboard warrior and shit… and you are. But at least I’m no hypocrite, UNLIKE YOU. And that, HYPOCRITE, you can’t deny or make up for.

  50. Sway March 29, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    Great read Sophia. Best of luck on your red pill relationship, sounds like you earned your stripes. You will likely be a happy woman even as your youth fades.

    Do us a favor: in 20 years, if things go well, come back here and compare your experience to your feminist peers. I’ll have popcorn ready.

    1. alli February 5, 2016 at 6:58 am

      ‘if things go well’

  51. Verona March 29, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    Thank you for your comment Sophia, it was beautiful and very interesting.

    I just wanted to say Thank You to Roosh too. I have been reading this blog for a few years as well (since I was 18) but I never comment. When I first saw the blog, I felt shy at how crude it was, but reading on it really clicked for me and I thought it made perfect sense (mostly).

    Having been raised in the West (although in French Canada, so it’s maybe a little different than an “English” upbringing), I always felt like I didn’t know what I wanted. I couldn’t get rid of that vague feeling of unhappiness. I went to university in a “serious” program because I felt it was what I HAD to do, even though it wasn’t what interested me.

    Like you Sophia, I was lucky enough to have found my boyfriend, a “natural alpha” as well, a leader of men almost 10 years older than I am. Now that we have been dating for 4 years, we are getting married later this year.

    I got a lot of criticism for deciding to get married so young (I am 22). After all, I just finished college! I have many years ahead of me to party and further my career! However, being an introverted girl, all the “partying” has never interested me very much and I don’t care about my career. I have always felt that way, but I kept it secret. It’s this blog (and others, but I found this one first) that gave me the confidence to look deep inside myself, listen to what I want, and reach for it, even if it goes against the mainstream view (I know this sounds tacky, but it’s true).

    I have gotten criticized a lot for feeling this way, but I’m certain that I’m making the right choice because I never feel happier as when I am caring for my boyfriend. Our relationship is very passionate and loving and I feel extremely fortunate to have him.

    Anyway, this post turned out a longer than I thought it would be. I hope it wasn’t too boring… It’s just that I identified a lot with what Sophia said. We probably aren’t the only two girls that have been impacted by what Roosh has written. This blog has led to me to learn how to cultivate my femininity and to feel comfortable expressing it, in other words, to become “fully who I am,” if this makes any sense. Thank you Roosh.

    1. alli February 5, 2016 at 6:51 am

      you’ve literally expressed nothing in this post other than you got married at 22 and didn’t think much of your degree
      and are you sure you felt ‘shy’ at how crude it was, or rather disgusted?

  52. Anonymous March 30, 2013 at 6:41 pm

    Women want to be feminine but we need masculine men for that… Not neccessarilly super-alpha men but men who are proactive, decisive, firm, knowing what they want, confident, happy, who naturally and charmingly take the lead… If women become more masculine individually or as a society, it’s a reaction to men being either very weak or very cruel. If men are honest, trustworty and manly, strong, and take care of their women, then women can afford to rely on them and be feminine and submissive… But men are lazy and you no longer want to be leaders, providers, fathers… Feminism and female promiscuity is your dream come true…

    You can’t have an abundance of good girls who you can trust and an abundance of easy sex at once… it’s this way or that way. You Roosh and other Game writers are part of the problem, not the solution.

    1. Colton May 11, 2014 at 11:26 am

      Men stopped aspiring to be leaders because they are shamed now as macho rapists if they assert themselves. This directly stems from a Feminist male shame agenda. Get ready for ‘Planet of the Lesbians.’ Oh and most Feminists are Incest Survivors who project sexual deviance onto all men, in an attempt to block out their own lineage. If you’re the Savior of masculine men then quit emasculating them every chance you get. On the up side for women, the next generation of “men” will provide no shortage of “guys” to do your hair and gossip about those “beetches” with. Will women yearn for tradition when they are 55 and booze & cupcakes in front of an old Channing Tatum movie on their iPad just doesn’t quite fill the void?

    2. Levi Bond Jr. May 16, 2014 at 10:58 am

      Feminine women are still around like Masculine men are… Not really… Promiscuity is not my thing… Feminism was never about equality. It was about breaking up the family. Women had the choice to work outside the home if they wanted to. If was really about choice, why do they force women to aim high? Men are lazy? Don’t wanna be providers? Get a grip! I’m young black in America… The family system is crushing men, read this story… The agenda is no longer hidden… Women we’re trained to act the way they do… You said they dont wanna be leaders, providers, fathers… Well there are women who support those kind of men. The family has been systematically assaulted for years…. Wake up and see the agenda behind the agenda…

      Nah men and women are apart of the problem. If Roosh deleted his blog, and became celibate? How many women would respect him being a gentleman, not seeking sex, etc… A heterosexual man is the biggest threat on the planet? Why because he is the leader and that is what society was built upon. Anything else won’t last…

  53. AW March 31, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    Anonymous, you’re right but I still disagree. It may be hard to see, but in my own case, game taught me what women want and how to engage them. When I was finally ready to start taking relationships seriously, I would not have been able to do it were it not for the things I learned while seeking out easy sex. Game taught me to be a man.

  54. just sayin' March 31, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    the title of your article is a tautology.

  55. for fuck's sake April 3, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    “Natural Alpha” spouses, “taking relationships seriously,” and “men are lazy and you no longer want to be leaders, providers, fathers…” oh my!

    Hey Roosh, you decided to switch demographics or something? Pandering to white knights and their tradcon succubi can be lucrative, just look at Dalstone. And there’s always the endless legions of frustrated future cat ladies out there. Roosh-lantic? Rooshington Post? Bling, bling!!!

    Seriously, I’d like to add my sincere “thank you” for NOT being a flaming mangina like these fuming, festering cuntholes. Keep up the writing, please. You’re our Hemingway.

  56. Anonymous April 4, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    In Eastern Europe women choose guys on how they make them feel, so any guy (doesn’t matter he’s fat or ugly) who can make them feel protected and cherised will win their heart. They also like to play a submissive role and give men the impression they are allways leading, because they know the male ego is fragile. Because of this attitude they seems delicious and feminine. I think they are just clever acting tough. In US girls don’t hide their “war spirit” , likes to dominate their men or to be treat as equal, they look so independent and powerful, but deep inside they have the same needs as EE women, they care for love, but are to proud to admit it. EE woman look fragile, feminine, but deep inside she’s powerfull, American girl look powerfull, but deep inside she’s sensitive and emotional. Acting slutty , loud, crazy or being drunk is just a mask. While I was in U.S I’ve met interesting girls.

  57. Anonymous April 5, 2013 at 3:20 am

    In Eastern Europe women have to be clever to tame a man,(especially a man who can provide them with an intellectual and financially relationship), in US men have to be clever to discover the woman behind the mask.

  58. JJ April 6, 2013 at 9:28 am

    Hello Roosh and fans. So, I’ll start by saying that I am a young woman, educated (no!) sex-positive (gasp!), and proudly feminist (evil spawn of Satan comin’ atcha). Oh, and I’m questioning my sexuality, not yet sure if I am straight, gay, bisexual, or something still more ambiguous. I can feel the love coming off this page already. Stop it, it tickles.

    But seriously, Roosh, I have questions. Are you really calling all women who enjoy sex “sluts”? While simultaneously encouraging men to be as slutty as possible? You talk a lot about what makes a woman feminine; if you, a man, are qualified to define femininity, then women are qualified to define masculinity. This is what constitutes a man worth having, in my eyes:

    The strength to use physical force when it’s genuinely necessary – and the wisdom and self-control to know when it’s not.
    Courage in all its forms.
    A genuinely healthy ego.
    Freedom from bitterness.
    Generosity of spirit.
    The desire to be the best possible version of himself, and to leave the world better in some way than it was when he came into it.

    Calling women sluts and objects to be fucked; playing games with numbers to convince yourself that women are within your control, and refusing to accept any lifestyle in which you don’t have absolute power doesn’t look impressive or genuinely manly to me. Actually it looks messed up, mean, and a little sad, as well as deeply hypocritical.

    I see the breaking down of gender roles as liberating, personally – for everyone, not just women. It means everyone, male, female, or intersex can wear what they want, say what they want, sleep with who they want, be a stay-at-home parent or pursue a career, or both, without fear of persecution. It means if you’re not a naturally dominant man, you don’t have to pretend to be something you’re not to be respected. It means if your dreams don’t fit the mould, you have the opportunity to break the old mould and do something extraordinary.

    Here’s something to consider: I don’t know which gender of person I’m more likely to end up in a lifelong relationship with, if any. But I do know that if it’s a woman, I’d much rather be with a woman who knows her mind, pursues her passions, respects herself, and doesn’t equate respecting me with being submissive. Now, according to general consensus on this forum, as a girl I’m much easier to put in my place and lose respect than any of you men, right?
    Well, if strong, smart women don’t scare ME, why should they scare you?

    1. patriciacarrasco October 7, 2013 at 5:58 am

      ur living in a dream world…. u just swallow the party line hook, line and sinker…have u ever thought of a married woman enjoying sex..w/ her husband? is enjoying a sex life w/ her husband..impossible? or does “enjoying sex” automatically have to be assumed that shes sleeping around?…people just dont think outside the box ever it seems…i also heard of a kind of famous survey “Rolling Stone” did about sex in which they found that MARRIED couples were the most satisfied sexually. it makes sense to me. it seems that having that stability and confidence in that truly committed relationship makes a woman “let go” because she feels he really loves her….of course the media will never jump on that will they? oh no…they have a diabolical agenda to destroy the family and they have largely succeeded

      1. SUPRA luca March 7, 2014 at 2:14 pm

        She didn’t say married couples can’t enjoy sex or that people need to sleep aroung, so I don’t see your point here.

    2. SUPRA luca March 7, 2014 at 2:15 pm

      Masculine men also have masculine bodies. They work out, are fit and have defined, toned muscles. That is super sexy. They also are hygienic, shave the excesses of body hair, dress well… that is classy masculinity and what will compliment the classy femininity they want in a woman.
      But American men are lazy. Overweight or flabbily skinny, hairy everywhere, dress poorly. They talk about coming to our Countries but when they come we can only laugh at their grotesque ugliness. Gross.

  59. sophia April 6, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Wow Im glad that some of what i was trying to say came across! Its nice to be able to talk about this stuff with people who are smart and open minded and havent bought into the sick culture this society sells our generation. I love reading all these comments and I love some of the insight on this website, but I just beg everyone on here to keep their heart as pure and safe as possible, and keep it unblemished for when you do find that person you dreamed of. Me and my boyfriend are actually considering taking a short break to improve a lot of personal issues in our lives and come back together stronger, but I worry that it may just drive us apart. Neither of us wants to do it, but we feel like we might be better off and healthier, and can make a final clear headed decision on if we are going to be together and build a life or not. Im 27 and I dont want to be dating around. I want to either be with him, or if we decide we cant, then I dont want to be with anyone else unless its my future husband and we can be friends first.
    I just know I have so much to give and I feel like if he cant be 100% thw strong man and leader I need, then it wont be healthy for me to spoil him with all my lofe and care and keep him comfortable enough to stay and not do what is right.
    I wish more than anything that it could be like the old days, and I could have just been married off and been a wonderful and devoted wife and spoiled and honored my husband, without dating or any of the modern stuff. But I feel like he doesnt feel like enough of a succesful man and leader right now to fully accept and appreciate it and he wants to work on himself and us to get there. I feel like I dont have years more to waste, and at this point, i just want to stop being a “pretend wife” and if he doesnt want to claim me for good after a little time getting our lives healthy, then its pointless to waste more time and i need to move on so i can find that man that i am meant to belong to and serve.
    And yes, i am very real. You can ask roosh 😉 we emailed back and forth for awhile and we are facebook friends 😉

    1. Tricia March 16, 2014 at 9:03 pm

      I hate to say this but a girl like you shouldn’t shack up before marriage. Many men want all the benefits of marriage but no commitment which is why living together is so attractive to them. If you want to stay pure, wait until you are married to have sex. That guy you are with is a real playboy. He isn’t used to someone like you and it seems to me he is wasting your time. Find someone more traditional like yourself.

    2. Tricia March 16, 2014 at 9:04 pm

      With all due respect, if you are 27 your clock is ticking too. Find somebody who is serious about marriage and commitment before it is too late to have babies.

      1. SUPRA luca October 16, 2014 at 11:20 pm

        Women can have babies till their 40’s. They may face more difficulties in getting pregnant, but nothing science can’t help nowadays. It is men who should not be using their mutant sperm after their 35, their sperm is already too low in quality, brings poor offspring and even sick babies.

  60. A. April 7, 2013 at 3:23 am

    2. Some Choice For Women + Firm Traditional Gender Roles
    2. Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, South America

    I don’t agree. Women have also many choice like in western countries or Scandinavia but the cultural traditions make the difference. EE women are family oriented, carrier women are also wives and mothers. There isn’t a division of roles in family – career woman and housewife, domestic activities are still in the service of women. EE girl is dreamy creature. If you have a decent job, you are a caring person and don’t hit her you are her prince charming. In western country people would say “she goes after money”, but I wonder: why a woman is considered materialistic if she search a man who spend his money wisely and can provide for his family?

  61. Jake April 10, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    Men should always discipline their women and get their women to act completely feminine, not like lesbians. Even if your woman is looking at other men, beat the crap out of her in public.

    1. Levi Bond Jr. May 16, 2014 at 11:13 am

      Lmaoooo damn that’s harsh! I couldn’t hit a woman, but I would verbally check her!

    2. SUPRA luca October 16, 2014 at 11:21 pm

      Sure, and then go to jail! 😀

  62. Tallulah April 20, 2013 at 3:53 am

    I LOVE to hate you so much!!

  63. Marcelo August 28, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    I agree with Anonymous 54. Gaming needs traditional female roles to be abolished. Girls must feel they have the same right to succumb to their desires as men do. They might get more demanding, after all they do not need our money and are well educated. But the sheer increase in number of available women more than compensates. I live in China. Here girls marry at a very young age. Few of them ever go to clubs. Gaming is not easy. I am Brazilian, though, and I can vouch that feminism has made Brazilian men notch count much higher. My grandpa’s generation had to pay for sex before getting married. There was no other alternative.

  64. whiskas November 15, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    “…government co-parenting, where women will be raised via handbooks created in university programs that are approved by feminist and homosexual thought leaders.” <– Happening in Toronto Canada, an education official said the state/schools "co-parent" the children. Their school board released a pamphlet against "heteronormativity", while the educational curriculum (K-12) teaches that there are 6 genders, that one's body doesn't mean they're the corresponding gender, that boys should play as princesses in plays, that homo/bisexuality is normal, etc. – while having gay oral posters hanging up in the schools. Their schools' website told children to experiment with vegetables as sexual objects. Even on the other coast in P.E.I. Canada – a handbook was made to teach children that it's "natural" and "healthy" to touch adult's private sexual organs! While telling parents to not discourage that behaviour (increase in orders from gov.)!
    Canada is screwed as of right now, mostly thanks to Toronto (worst liberal city). They even have an unelected lesbian premier of the province, but even the Toronto mayor has not been spared of false sexual assault allegations (under constant liberal attack for being male, white, straight, traditional/family-oriented and Christian, dared to refuse going to Toronto gay pride parade).
    I don't think I want to stay in this country, esp. if I'm going to have kids (which I do want to do sometime). Sending kids to public indoctrination centers, aka public school, should be counted as child abuse.

  65. transatlantic November 20, 2013 at 8:59 am

    Very few people in today’s economy make enough money to support a family on a single income. The countries where you feel women have most unattractive characteristics are also the richer countries where the standards and quality of life are higher than those where the traditional gender roles exist. Yes American women focus one their education and careers and marry later. American PEOPLE in general have a firm belief in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The most important part of that equation is to be able to provide more for your children than you had when you were growing up. That is the American dream: in this country everyone wants to send their kids to the best school and provide them with the most well-rounded education so that they will have the skills they need to make it in what has become a much more competitive world economy than the 1950’s for example. Many women pursue education and careers because they have realistic expectations that the man they will love and make a life and home with will not be a millionaire (why should he have to be??!!!), which is what you would need to be if you want to single handedly support a wife and two children, while sending them to good schools, live in a safe and clean neighborhood, and provide for their college education.

  66. Claire November 28, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    “A woman submits to a man’s power because, as dictated by nature, men have been given more intellect and strength than women.”

    Oh, so I’m just a dog to worship at a man’s feet?

  67. Claire November 28, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    So basically you think I, as a woman, should have no choice and should bow down to men?

    1. Colton May 11, 2014 at 11:29 am

      Yes or be a lesbian. This is about the same as a guy asking, “So you want me want to work and provide for a woman?”

      1. SUPRA luca October 16, 2014 at 11:28 pm

        Or she can keep being a straight woman and find a man who isn’t sick as you.
        The difference between working and providing for someone and having no freaking choices and being a doormat to someone else is big, American idiot.
        Both should, and do have choices. One can work outside, while the other works inside the house. But both as equal and should respect each other, no masters and slaves. Regardless of sex.

        You should seek therapy. You want many people (women in this case) to be weaker than you and have no choices only because you are extremely weak yourself. A weak, weak ant that anyone could stomp on.

  68. ano January 7, 2014 at 5:38 am

    The more that I read this blog the less I hate you but the more i pity you. You seem to have some real problems, nobody hates this much without reason.

    Seek help

  69. Bella Batali January 9, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    i actually like traditional gender roles. its not to say im necessarily going to be a stay at home wife or mom but i grew up in a traditional home, hispanic families tend to be a bit more traditional so maybe thats why. anyhow, i may choose to go out and work and not be a stay at home mom but i still like the idea of the man being head of the household, women being somewhat submissive to the man, not out of weakness but out of ideaology, religion, culture and i think relationships and households run better that way. its no surprise as traditional gender roles and traditional homes went out the window the divorce rate skyrocketed

    1. Levi Bond Jr. May 16, 2014 at 11:14 am


    2. SUPRA luca October 16, 2014 at 11:29 pm

      IKR. That is also tradition blacks and other minorities to be submissive to whites and shit. I hope you get on your knees and clean my shoes, hispanic lower human.

  70. YAYfin January 19, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    You obviously haven’t studied much of nature if you think females across the animal kingdom bow down to their male counterparts. See: The spotter hyena, anglerfish, bonbos, and the praying mantis.

  71. Tricia March 16, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    I have been very disappointed by many of the men I have dated. Many of them (especially younger ones) don’t know how to dress, have no manners, are unromantic (don’t know anything about romance), expect sex with no commitment, and talk on their cell phones at mealtimes. They also expect any woman they date to have a well paying job, and sometimes to pay for part of the tab on a date. Now, if the author of this site complains that American women all have careers and having a career is “unfeminine”, it is because many men are so immoral, unreliable, sex-crazed, and disrespectful that the safest option is to have a career to avoid marrying a loser; and to not waste time on the losers while looking for the right one. If a woman is to be “feminine” she needs a man who is masculine (i.e., a good provider, respectful, caring, protective, etc.). I haven’t seen much of that around lately. Many men these days are confused about their sex role in a relationship, and don’t know how to lead.

  72. precluder April 2, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    Dude.. Don’t worry about feminism taking over America. If you analyze carefully, feminism actually reduces the racial preference of whites. At the same time it encourages all sorts of minorities even if they are totally anti-feminist. This way it will spiral down to decrease of white population in America and increase of non whites from various communities. After the tipping point is reached when the minorities start calling the shots, your feminism will be long gone. Just sit down and watch the show.

  73. Hellfire May 8, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    I have an anxiety disorder and hate drinking. I’m no virgin but one night stands are a big no, for me. Unknown people make me nervous. Not the fluttery “feminine” nervous. The kind of nervous where my hand is on my lighter and the other is inches away from my deodorant.
    But I’m androgynous and bisexual.
    I don’t identify as male or female. My manner has always been neutral.
    So gender roles are okay (if he wants to do it) just don’t expect me to do anything.
    I don’t feel the need to impress anyone. Also most people can’t stand my racist humor. (You call me Paki, I call you cracker, it doesn’t offend me. )
    I guess this makes me “low value “. 😉

    Strangely enough… I’ve never had a problem attracting men. Men that interest me is a problem. Most bore me.
    Though my SO doesn’t. He’s masculine, but not in my face, or insecure. I can be attracted to masculinity or femininity.

    Though of course since he doesn’t demand I have butt length hair, and be barefoot and pregnant I suppose you’ll label him a beta/worse.
    Because it’s logical to label men like something out of a Lycan fanfiction.

    Oh how I love Ireland…

    1. alli February 5, 2016 at 7:41 am

      what’s Ireland got to do with it?

  74. Divzy May 22, 2014 at 11:00 pm

    Why bitch about destroying the family unit if you’re not even interested in creating a family? It seems like an unusual thing for a pickup artist to care about. More families = less women for you to have casual sex with.

  75. Cynthia Jackson May 28, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    You are a scary, evil human being.

  76. Satu May 29, 2014 at 8:06 am

    These are some of the most stupid sentences I’ve come across in a long time. I truly hope that you are an invented provocative virtual character. Your thinking is from the beginning of last century.

  77. nunyabidnessfoo June 20, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    “You can safely ejaculate inside her without asking if she’s on the pill because she will not keep the baby”


  78. SUPRA luca October 16, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    Is that guy really saying that in South America women have only “some choice”? For real? Not the truth in Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Peru, for example.
    If you visit the poorests places in these countries, then yes, women and men folow some traditional roles, but that doesn’t go for the biggest part of these Countries.

    “women will be raised via handbooks created in university programs that are approved by feminist and homosexual thought leaders”
    AHAHAHAHAHA! And then we have to hear American men whining they are considered some of the biggest idiots of the world and they don’t even know why.

  79. Guest January 8, 2015 at 5:35 am

    I don’t want to be feminine. I want to play video games all day, read comic books all night, maybe get a job in house construction.

    My dad…Never met him. I hear he was a cheating bastard who lived to knock up as many women as possible & then cut ties. He’s probably in a shabby retirement home somewhere, still single & with a mountain of alimony payments.

  80. ryan April 19, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    the shit that comes out of this guys brain….so any woman who talks about sexism is a “slut” (not sure of the correlation there…) but a dude who writes columns about banging as many girls from different countries as possible so he can collect “flags” is not a “slut” he’s a role model?

  81. Anti-Feminist 2015 May 15, 2015 at 3:51 am

    Yep; freaking hate modern western society.
    I just wish there would be a mass-revolution, whose aim would be to revoke Women’s Rights. That shit fucked up western culture, and will continue to poison the world for the foreseeable future.
    What we really need to do is not just revoke Women’s Rights, but also punish said women (and girls) for even daring to want that shit – forcing them into slavery should do (where the girl just becomes another commodity, another ‘item’, to be used however their male owners see fit, and can be bought and sold freely).

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  85. judyt00 February 5, 2016 at 5:20 am

    written by the guy living in mommy’s basement

  86. tracelle February 6, 2016 at 5:11 pm

    Probably don’t want to use “modern Muslim countries” as your example of shining male intelligence…they haven’t spearheaded a single significant scientific/medical/technological breakthrough in the past 3 decades.

    Maybe if their women had more power, they’d stop killing each other incessantly and focus more on cultivating their intellectual achievements.

  87. Haley Elizabeth February 12, 2016 at 5:30 pm

    Well then how do expect women to be happy? I don’t want to die alone but I also HATE the idea of this kind of lifestyle. Not all women want to be placed in the kitchen to cook or be used as a baby factory. But I do want to understand this perspective. Do women who take control of their lives threaten you? Or your masculinity I should say.

  88. Sarah Gower March 26, 2016 at 5:34 am

    I guess being a housewife or a worker is still boring but I didn’t have a job I was excited to cook dinner (even though it wasnt natural ingredients) and I was just happy to see that my dad was home.

    I guess tradconservative values is a little bit easier because when I had a job it was so much drama.

    Either way, if all I have to do is dress and do feminine things, my relationship will last.

    People will call you a mooch if you don’t have a job.

    I have been poisened because I still have a masculine attitude. Almost all women no matter what race has an attitude problem here in the States.

    I study the manosphere for quite sometime now, and so far tradcon is the easiest to follow.

  89. Sarah Gower April 10, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    Hey Roosh. I know this is an old article of yours but do you know traditional gender roles are being frowned upon? I still got that mannish attitude that will take years to get rid of. But you do know that tradcons will be attacked by those migtaus and feminazis calling them lazy? Maybe a girl needs a small part time job but other than that homemaking skills, wearing feminine clothes, smiling and being submissive is what makes you a RPW. I know RPWs are disrespected by many of the manosphere, but i hope neomasculinity will flourisg. Traditionalism creates healthy families anyways.

  90. RDF August 31, 2016 at 5:35 pm

    “…slut shaming will be a powerful way to affect the behavior of women for the rest of time.”

    And with logic like that you claim to have been a scientist? Riiiiight!

    The Socratic method should have taught you about how flawed premises result in illogical conclusions, but you obviously missed that class, so allow me to explain: a conclusion is true if – and only if – the premises used to arrive at it are also true. In other words, your conclusion is true only if a woman is a slut, genius! If she’s not, your first premise fails, so any conclusion drawn from it is thus unproven — and having fallen into such illogic, your argument is by definition, then, untrue.

    Yours is feminist logic at it’s best!
    Faulty Premise 1: Neanderthals were primitive
    Faulty Premise 2: Armadillos aren’t as evolved as humans
    Therefore Neanderthals were armadillos…? :
    Truth & Logic score: FAIL!

    But, seeing you’re a bit slow:
    Faulty Premise 1: Women need behaviour-control
    Faulty Premise 2: Sluts are ashamed of being so
    Therefore slut-shaming works to control women’s behaviour.
    Truth & Logic score: FAIL!

    Faulty Premise 1: Men need behavior-control,
    Faulty Premise 2: Fat people are ashamed of being so,
    Therefore fat-shaming works to control men’s behaviour.
    Truth & Logic score: FAIL!

    Are you detecting just a bit of a pattern here?

    And basically, your every argument follows the same kind of fallacious illogic. Your ‘slut-shaming’ will have precisely no effect on a woman who’s either not a slut, OR is not ashamed of being one, OR doesn’t need others to control her behaviour, OR won’t allow others to control her behaviour, OR simply doesn’t care what you think, OR-… ad infinitum! Exactly as fat-shaming will have no effect on someone who’s not fat, et cetera; or how women’s rights are no threat to a good man who can get a good woman and men’s rights are no threat to a good woman who can get a good man.

    YOU can’t get a good woman (meanwhile BILLIONS of men can),
    YOU believe that’s only women’s fault (it’s not even slightly yours at all, of course),
    Therefore all women are rotten and all men should avoid them…? :
    Truth & Logic score: FAIL!

    You are a professional victim, who seeks to bring all other men into your victimhood, because your misery loves company. In other words, you’re not an MRA, you’re a ‘Menist’. And worse, you’re a rampant misandrist too, who spends as much time shitting all over men as you do women. While we REAL Men’s Rights Activists are one hell of a lot more useful, and infinitely more valuable ~ to men, to women, to children and to society as a whole.

  91. Noa February 27, 2017 at 2:10 am

    Brilliant Roosh! We’ll have to make a decision in the future. Either fight for our nation or succumb to globalism.

  92. BKW March 19, 2018 at 1:35 pm

    How exactly does the manosphere define femininity? Roosh writes about it all the time, but I don’t know what he sees as feminine.