Traditional Gender Roles Create Feminine Women

Why is it that giving choice to American girls causes them to act like they need to go on a sex bender, while the same result doesn’t happen in a place like Poland? What is restraining Polish girls from getting on the cock carousel and becoming an entitled slut?

In the past I’ve stated that Poland lacks enablers like feminism, liberalism, Jezebel, and a culture that promotes misandry and slutdom. These enablers are not the disease, but merely symptoms of the disease. There is a higher level phenomenon that enables the enablers: the elimination of traditional gender roles.

Traditional gender roles are best exemplified in modern Muslim societies where the man provides while the woman takes care of the home. A woman submits to a man’s power because, as dictated by nature, men have been given more intellect and strength than women. Traditional gender roles are opposed to the uglification, masculinization, and slutification that enablers advance in Western society today.

You won’t be feminine if you think men are the enemy instead of your provider. You won’t be feminine if you place career before family. You won’t be feminine if you have no shame for being an overweight tatted-up slut. Enablers, in effect, are creating a new breed of woman that only benefit men who profit from their labor (capitalists) while robbing value from a potential husband who wants a family and peaceful home.

If you go into a Polish club, you’ll see that the girls still have interactions with a high volume of men. They still have Facebook and iPhones and other features of American lifestyle that allows them to play the field and have choice in men. It’s not at as high of a level, but it’s prevalent enough that you will notice these things after just a couple days in the country. Nonetheless, you don’t see an equivalent decrease to their femininity (not yet, anyway). The amount of choice they experience doesn’t poison them like it does an American woman. It’s because Polish society hasn’t yet eliminated traditional gender roles. The degree of choice a woman has, combined with how traditional the gender roles are, compose the two greatest factors that determine the makeup of women in any society.

Let’s take a look at three different mixtures:

1. Zero Choice For Women + Strict Traditional Gender Roles
2. Some Choice For Women + Firm Traditional Gender Roles
3. Unlimited Choice For Women + No Traditional Gender Roles

If I were to ask you to assign a region of the world for each of the above three mixtures, could you do it?

1. Middle East
2. Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, South America
3. Western countries, Scandinavia

The combination of female choice and traditional gender roles create the women of a society, just like how mixing different colors of paint can create a specific pigmentation. High dating choice with an absence of traditional gender roles will create a male hell where women stop acting like women (Anglosphere). On the other hand, no dating choice in a culture where gender roles are strong will have women that you have to marry in order to have sex with (Iran).

Let’s say you are a 26-year-old man who wants to easily sleep around without concern for quality or feminine traits. Where would you go? Now how about if you want girls who make for feminine girlfriends but aren’t excruciatingly hard to get into the sack? Now how about if you want a virgin who will dedicate her life to you?

My guess is you prefer the second option. The reason why Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, and South America are so popular for Western men is that it offers a middle ground where you can have fun casual sex or find a pleasant girlfriend or wife without being the most interesting man in the world with game that rates in the top two percentile. Notice how many Western men who venture into Eastern Europe have increasing difficulty as they cross Poland and enter Ukraine and then Russia, where gender roles are stronger and you need additional knowledge or skill to navigate the waters. We can stray from our culture quite a ways until the learning curve becomes steep.

Feminism is a rightful boogeyman because it’s a mechanism for removing traditional gender roles while increasing dating choice for women. In fact, if there was a perfect poison for destroying women, eliminating the family unit, and lowering fertility rates, feminism would be like cyanide  Sometimes I can’t help but admire how effective this ideology has been in changing female behavior at great detriment to men, but as they say, you can’t put toothpaste back into the tube. This is why I advise men to go to places where there is still some toothpaste left to squeeze out.

There is an interesting failure of feminism that is worth mentioning: its inability to eliminate slut guilt, a mental process that I believe is genetically hardwired into the female brain and can not be wholly defeated. It’s so ingrained that even feminists attack sluts, though under the guise of other reasons. As slutty as the girl you fucked the other night is, she will still do her best to rationalize away her sluttiness or even verbally declare to you that she “doesn’t usually do this.” This is a reason why slut shaming will be a powerful way to affect the behavior of women for the rest of time.

When you meet a girl who values unlimited choice and comments about “sexism” or “misogyny,” two code words that suggest gender roles have been eliminated, you’re dealing with a slut who would make for a horrible wife. She still feels slut guilt, but her behavior will still be more slutty than the world average. You can safely ejaculate inside her without asking if she’s on the pill because she will not keep the baby. She does not want the unlimited choice party to end.

Increasing choice and reducing traditional gender roles are two factors that are rapidly destroying women. There will be further degradation going into the 22nd century with the annihilation of the family unit and rise of government co-parenting, where women will be raised via handbooks created in university programs that are approved by feminist and homosexual thought leaders. Unfortunately, things will not get better within our lifetime, but with this knowledge at hand, all you have to do is identity the type of women you want and then board an airplane to visit the country that has them.

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EarthlyEros
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Bravo, good post Roosh. Loved the toothpaste line.

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Well thought out and intelligent post as usual.

Actually POLAND IS DESTROYED ALREADY
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Actually in Poland if a divorce is initiated after a male cheats on his wife,
the male is likely to lose custody of his children, 50% of his wealth
and be forced with larges financial obligations to his exwife
and to the children, for the rest of his life.

If a divorce is initiated after it is discovered that a female has
cheated on her spouse,
then the male is still likely to lose custody of his children (the
ones that are his)
and be forced to pay with large financial obligations even to the
children that aren’t his.

Judges in divorce cases are a large majority women,
but the laws of divorce are also bended on women’s total advantage.

Marriage is, in short, the real everyday story of male liability at
all costs and in nearly all situations.
It is the product of the divorce laws that, in effect,
removed any protection for the men
and replaced them with a system that incentivizes the initiation of
divorce by women,
regardless of their actions.

[Roosh: How many times are you going to leave this comment?]

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That’s anti-feminist for ya. If you want women to be feminine, you gotta be okay with giving up all your money after you divorce. I’m anti-feminist (I love to cook, clean, make my husband feel special), I do everything in the house, cook, do the groceries, take care of guests, decorate the home and I do it all wearing high heels and sexy dresses, all my husband has to do is work and come home. I’m Always faithful to him, I Always put him first, I was a virgin when we married, the least he can do for me is love me back and stay faithful to me. If that man will cheat on me, of course I want half of his money. How else am I gonna maintain myself if I stayed at home for so many years, no-one will hire me. As for the woman having full custody: of course. The man goes off to work during the day and is too busy f***ing hot new sl*ts after the divorce, he’s got no time for kids anyway. It makes sense, don’t you think?

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That you love to be a housewife (you don’t have to clean your fucking house wearing high heels though, now do you? that’s bad for your physical health) doesn’t mean you have to be against women who love to work outside and men who are househusbands. Freedom of choice is good, my friend.
On the rest, yes, that’s a fair exchange.

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You know it’s possible to do all that and still work, I do. (kids are out, I would very likely have to give up my ability to walk as I have a ligament issue in my hip) The added benefit is if he can’t fix the car, I can and do.

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Well Poland is very far from being heaven on Earth. Praising Poland constantly will not be changing the actual facts

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Roosh,

I think the word “gender” should not be in use at all in the manosphere. It is an invention of the same feminists we hate, in order to take biology out of the equation and be of whatever “gender” you feel. The right word is sex.

Pete

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The word gender has been around way before feminism. Gender and sex are different things.

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Agreed BUT gender and biological sex are closely linked. Its been proven men are naturally better in more masculine and physical tasks and women more feminine/nurturing and caring type tasks. Femenism/Genderism will eventually die or fade out. Its wholly dependant on government and male support participation. Economy and society globally is going to poops. Americans are getting poorer and womem are more impacted by this. God willing nature will reset things. Thanks

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Men as a group obviously have greater strength and have greater stamina, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they are “better” at the same task if you equalize the strength and stamina. That just means they can take more and get tired not as fast. I get your point, though.
Again, that’s very difficult to prove something that is developed later in life is “natural”, inside of a sociocultural context. I would bet women, who naturally have motherly instincts, could be more inclined to be nurturing with their babies than men, yes. And because of the physical differences, men would do most of the heavier lift while women do the most domestic/caring. Once again, the world is developed and industrialized, so we can be a lot more free (in fact, even before it we can still find plenty of cultures where women were doing mostly everything men were also doing, and where men were considered as much as caring and nurturing).
But on the rest… how people dress, how they groom themselves, their tastes, their dreams and ambitions, how relationships work and the norms… that’s pretty much social/cultural. In my Country we don’t have much “gender” talk, but we still know pretty clearly that what’s perceived as feminine and masculine will never be consistent and is always changing. And most intelligent, civilized people will try their best to accept it, adapt and get their best out of it, being themselves as much as they can and respecting the differences as much as they can.

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Excellent points, ricksantos01!

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Wait what are you talking about exactly?The word gender triggers you for some odd reason?And your own buddy used it countless times so you are beyond confounding

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Seems to me like …

Unlimited Choice For Women + Firm Traditional Gender Roles

… would be the solution.

Slut shaming ain’t gonna get you there.

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Traditional societies in Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and (formerly) in Europe had a deep awareness that unrestricted promiscuity in women would eventually lead to socially harmful outcomes. Examples of such harmful outcomes would be the corrosion of the family unit, and chaos in the inheritance and property law system. Customs such as footbinding in China, gender segregation in the Middle East, the custom of the suttee in old India, infibulation in Africa, and patriarchal dominance in Europe served some social function, despite seeming “barbaric” to modern Western eyes. Otherwise these customs would not have lasted for so long. The modern crusading feminist do-gooder in Africa has no idea of the wisdom and valid lineage behind traditional tribal practices.
The abandonment of traditional sex roles was a conscious decision by American women. It was not forced on them. Even with technological and social change, it is still possible for a modern society to preserve traditional gender roles (Japan is an example) and keep women sexy and feminine. American society is an aberration, because it seems that women here made a deliberate decision to reject traditional gender norms. The result, as we all know, has been a catastrophe. Irreversible social decay has taken hold, and will continue.
We could learn a lot from traditional societies, and we should not be so quick to denounce them.

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American men are not traditionally masculine (educated, civilized, artistic, graceful, benevolent and kind) or sexy (dressing well, greater grooming regime, etc.) as well. Who are you idiots to try to say women should be something you guys haven’t been for way longer (in a masculine way)?
(Straight) Female promiscuity does not exist without (straight) male promiscuity. And men have been promiscuous all the way, even when women were shamed into marrying as virgins, with prostitutes – that would get pregnant by these men, spread diseases, etc. Many of these prostitutes were poor women with no choices that these “amazing” men where abusing just for their fun – while still expecting a virgin wife lol. And you wonder why women would want better things than marry hypocrites. Not “masculine” at all.

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Roosh is a walking example. All he spends his time is writing this damn website (Read the articles in it, a lot of them are stupid). That f***ing faggot needs to get a life rather than spend all his time and energy trying to get laid. Now if he had a 9-5 job, that would be a different story but it seems like this is a kind of guy who travels a lot to get laid and when he comes back to the US, lives in his parent’s basement at age 30+. What kind of adult does this?! A F****ING LOSER! Being a masculine man (or a woman) ain’t always about getting laid and having a virgin wife at the same time! Inconsistent, Roosh! You are a man slut and a lot of the girls you fuck are too! Slut shaming yet you are one too you fucking hypocrite! If female sluts exist, then there are man sluts too! You sir, are one, and a pathetic one!

“If you ain’t got no money, take your broke ass home”
-says Fergie

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Now isn’t that the truth? I only disagree when you say a lot of his articles are stupid. I actually think all of his articles are stupid, and a product of a very degenerate mind.

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I agree wholeheartedly.

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“Now if he had 9-5 job, that would be a different story.”
Unwittingly I think you’ve revealed the core of the modern man problem – their whole pathetic needy dependence – desperately hoping and planning from high school to get a nice cushy 9-5 job courtesy of some nerdy weed made good like Steve Jobs or Bill Gates – a job where they feel safe and secure and are told what to do all day (increasingly by some ball-breaking feminazi) – usually while hunched over a computer – while their balls, their brains and their souls gradually shrivel into nothingness. Roosh’s lifestyle is not one I’d choose, or even condone – but at least it shows some manly dissatisfaction with the status quo – whereas most modern man have gone down the feminine passive root of accepting the sterile 9-5 existence. In any case most of the 9 to fivers are man sluts as well – it’s part of their feminine herd mentality to do what the man on the telly says is cool and macho.

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I just noticed I spelled “route” the wrong way in my previous comment!

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‘feminine’ herd mentality, well you’ve just aptly described how there is also a ‘masculine herd mentality’

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Doesn’t promiscuity in men also lead to socially harmful outcomes?

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So you double promiscuity by encouraging women also to be promiscuous?

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If straight men are being promiscuous, straight women are also beign promiscuous by default.

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Most men are not promiscuous. Most women aren’t either. Even in countries that are “socially liberal” with “hook up cultures” like the US, the overwhelming majority of men and women are not sleeping with a lot of different partners.

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Thank you!

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Precisely.But logic escapes people often .

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Yes of course they outcome is parallel .I’m really thrilled to see how many cool guys are in this thread and not too many gullible dorks

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Even the traditional south east asian countries still will give the custody to the women in divorce, especially when the children are below 5 years old.
In Indonesia, the reason of giving custody to the mother is because men are douchebags here (really… after expecting the wife to be perfect and take care of the children they still like to cheat and hit the wife).
Plus here mothers are seen as the first “school” and “nurturer” and they are supposed to give the early education to their children.
If divorce happens when the Child is below 3 years old, the court would give the custody straightaway to the mother coz the mother is expected to give breastfeeding until the child is 2 yo, changing diapers,potty training etc, which fathers here are sooo reluctant to do.
But then the court investigates the mother’s condition too (is she alcoholic, like to do child abuse, is she the one who cheats all the time?).
After 5 yo, usually court here will ask the children with whom they prefer to stay, with dad/mom. Coz here we believe small children are the true witnesses about their parents’ problems. Usually if the children saw that the father abuses their mother, the children have their own opinion that the mother is the victim so they prefer to stay with their mother.
About alimony, it’s about who has bigger money…
And the father still can negotiate about child care support if he doesn’t have enough money.
Usually, the women who divorce because of being abused would want the divorce quickly happen, even without child support or alimony, as long as they can run away from those psycho husbands.

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Actually, Heading further east and south gives better results. African women for the next possibility!

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That’s right, ruin another continent. Soon all you will have left is Antarctica.

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And they will be telling us how penguins make better wives (I heard both males and females don’t slut around).

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Technology has made tradition obsolete. Get to work bitch the house can clean itself.

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How about, get to work and make that money so women can take half of it? Neither attitude is helpful.

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The hordes of american betas,descending on eastern european shores will destroy our market.

Just look what Roosh is writing in his guides.Ridiculous.Dating a ukrainian for a year,being played like a child by a lithuanian,paying for them,kissing their ass,”the only game you need is to kiss eastern european woman’s ass”.

Oh man,oh man.Bad times are coming for us too.You f*cked up your market back in states,due to lack of balls,and now coming to the steppes full of gold diggers on hills.

I already know couple of americans living in eastern europe,completely enslaved and domesticated by the biatches.One guy just finished building a house over there and the subject of divorce is already in the air.

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It has all to do with economic grounds.A polish woman who makes the same money as a US woman will behave the same or even worse.They appear sweet etc to get what they want.
Truth is in slavic societies women do not have many chances for professional advancement that is why they need a man.The only way to live comfortably are to emigrate, become a prostitute or marry a man with means.

Slavs keep giving low chances for jobs to women, which is bad for productivity but keeps them feminine.Americans tend to pedestrialize these women like they have been taught not understanding that this pedestrialiazation has led to the western women entitlement monsterism.

Basically Americans think they have seen the future and the future is mix while the future is the past.

When slavic women get the same chances as western women after emigrating to the West they reach worse states of bitchiness.There are many worthy guys in the West meaning unlimited choice by women.Most of these guys are wannabe pussy slaves.

The feeling that polish society lacks immigrants and as a result is more virgin to western impression is an illusion.What is usually celebrated is the level of gullibility and naivity of some slavic women which is never displayed by Germaic women.Polish women are simply easier to lie to they are receptive to lies and do not investigate.This is quite clear to Balkan individuals.

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There is a concern here Roosh. If so many guys like yourself keep hyping and writing about certain overseas countries, then wouldn’t it destroy the country’s traditions there?

Europeans, help me out here. I’m European myself, and I feel that if all these well-off North American men start coming en-masse to Europe looking for casual sex, it’s going to destabilize and upset the traditional society there and change women for the worse.

While I see many of you criticize Russian women for being cold to foreigners, I believe Russia is doing the right thing. They are fighting back hard against foreigners because they are trying to preserve their culture and traditions.

Also look at the Middle East, where all this conflict is eroding their traditions.

I agree with much of what you say Roosh, including how messed up North America is, but isn’t running away from North America to other countries eventually going to cause problems as well? I mean if a few guys do it that’s okay, but if thousands and thousands of beta North American males read stuff like this and then go to Europe desperately seeking lots of casual sex, then I think that is a very bad thing long-term.

There’s no easy solution here, but feminism HAS to be abolished in Western society, things need to go back to traditional roles, or I think we need a worldwide natural disaster or world war to shake a lot of Western men and women out of their deluded thinking.

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Exactly. I fail to see how having sex with a Euro woman means she’s wife material but if she was American she would be a slut.

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you just nailed it…. a worldwide natural disaster and/or World War.. is the only thing that’s going to wake up men and women. and there is no need to worry for thousands and thousands of betas to cross over to Europe.. for casual sex. the majority of American men are too heavily programmed… and are too pussified to even have the balls to do such a thing. I may be one of the few that have made it. out of America and has lived in Eastern Europe for 7 years. I love it over there. I’m more of an alpha male.. that’s the only type of man that they respect and they want there. if you’re not a real man you’ll get eaten alive there just like you will in America

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Hello?

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“When slavic women get the same chances as western women after emigrating to the West they reach worse states of bitchiness.There are many worthy guys in the West meaning unlimited choice by women.Most of these guys are wannabe pussy slaves.”

Right. Slavic women, after acclimating to Western attitudes and options, are if anything even icier and more mercenary than Western women – the Russians at least. The problem is that since they’re so cute, it’s easy to fall victim to the idea that they’re angelic from the outside in.

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Just look what Roosh is writing in his guides. Dating a ukrainian for a year,being played like a child by a lithuanian, paying for them, kissing their ass,
”the only game you need is to kiss eastern european woman’s ass”.

It is true that polish and lithuanians have unfortunately already turned quite slutty, soon they will become like americans and that will be the end

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Roosh is on fire

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Spare us your bullshit please, I have enough of your elementary school philosophy. You sound retarded. You are constantly trolling the EE topics, with the mighty Balkan made up wisdom. What the hell means Slavic woman? Are Slavs a separate race? How can you put in the same sack women from Poland, Serbia or Slovenia? Are you trying to say that over 300 millions of people are just the same? There is no such thing. You wanna sound like an expert, but to someone who posses IQ higher than a vacuum cleaner you sound like a troll and an almost 40 year old retard and the worst part is that the other guys are buying it.

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“There will be further degradation going into the 22nd century with the annihilation of the family unit and rise of government co-parenting, where women will be raised via handbooks created in university programs that are approved by feminist and homosexual thought leaders.”

History doesn’t move in straight lines. Bring forth the backlash.

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“Are Slavs a separate race? ”
Yes

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Guys come on don’t sound like women,you all want to have sex with new girls every night but than complain like “where have all the good girls go”.A lot of you here if given the choice right now to marry a nice girl who will stay at home while you provide to the family would say fuck no you want to travel,fuck new bitches,make money for yourself.

In the old days if you were a loser you would stay a loser,there was no internet to teach you anything there weren’t gazilion books about any issue.If you were born poor you had much less chance of becoming rich.Today every broke motherfucker can enjoy a hedonistic lifestyle and those who work very hard usually make something of themselves.While traditional family is getting destroyed this world is perfect for a lifestyle that these blogs teach so i don’t understand the bitching.

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You are either an american ignorant, a Troll or an Indian guy, but most likely all three

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Roosh i would eventually like to be married and have children, a middle eastern virgin girl would be ideal. I’m a white male aged in his late 20s and financially well off. Is there any advice you could give to help me achieve my goal?

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Buy a blow-up doll. She won’t be able to compare your bad sex skills and small dick to other men. I mean, even a virgin woman could compare if she has been watching porn, so…

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“You won’t be feminine if you have no shame for being an overweight tatted-up slut” regardless of what the article says after this comment, aaahh who gives a fuck.. fuck fat tatted up sluts.

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I am not a feminist American woman, and most of my friends are not either. Due to the economics of today’s cost of living, most couples I know both have to work full-time. Honestly even that barely cuts it financially for a family. So if women have no choice but to work, and the average working class man has no choice to but rely on two incomes too support a family, then where does that leave your average American couple according to your standards? I am Polish and Puerto Rican, Straight off the boat for both. Both sides of my ethnicity are living in poverty within their own Motherlands.

How can an American woman be both Feminine and yet at the same time, support her family, AKA, children, even with a decent partner?

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#1 stop listening/reading this trash, especially the part about men being smarter. I rarely run into men who can hold a candle to what I learn and can do. This isn’t just american men I’m talking about, I’ve been all over. #2 being feminine means that you can still be girlish while getting things done. So what if I’m getting greasy fixing cars or aircraft My hair, nails, and make up are done with a spritz of my favorite ed hardy perfume. And before I go home I clean up and put on my pretty clothes. Do the shopping, balance the budget, do the laundry, cook dinner, and clean the house. Want to know how I get it all done? I don’t watch TV, and schedule out my week in advance.

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22 Jason

Dude, I’m sorry, but there’s a REASON they wear abayas

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Roosh your content is so true, on-point, and freaking hilarious. My favorite post is http://www.rooshv.com/united-states-of-broken-women

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Hey American boys, get your shit off, get American chicks pregnant, and then pretend it is their fault. They are bringing you down. Is the average man who plants his seed inside a woman a chump? Hey Chump Change, American woman are shit, they are non-feminist pieces of fat tattooed shit.The fact that within the economic societal class that exists, if you do choose to have have a family or nut in a hoe, most likely, your combined incomes will only reach $100,000. And unfortunately, working class man, that is not enough to eliminate the need for a woman to work. Woman are not all https://twitter.com/adriarichards , even the slightly feminist females said FUCK YOU BITCH! http://amandablumwords.wordpress.com/2013/03/21/3/ , for example.
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Wait a second Roosh, I agree, but hold up…

we can still count on obesity to keep the pussy flowing. As women get fatter and sluttier, they’ll need more male validation to feel good ’bout themselves. They won’t be wife material, but I wager notch counts will rise as men lower their standards and open up to big game wink

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22nd century? Roosh, come on, I thought you were smarter than this. What makes you think the modern liberal culture is not in the process of collapsing right now, at this very moment? Remember, East Europe/Russia was where feminism first started, around 1917 or so. America is actually about 40 or so years behind Russia in feminism. Russia/EE is a post-feminist society, NOT a pre-feminist one.

Feminism destroys men’s desire to get married, and after 70 or 80 years of feminism and men simply no longer interested in marriage, THEN you see a big change in the behavoirs and attitudes of women, which is what happened in EE/Russia. It needs to be understood that EE/Russia is a post feminist society, and that this is the end result of feminism- men giving up on marriage in great numbers, and women reacting to this by becoming feminine again, so they can try to bait men into marrying them.

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@jason
latin america ee an east asia is where ull find em. But armenia an georgia has tons of girls that are virgins an a very good place to wife hunt..
@ ipeefreely
u really brought a good point cuz they will influence change even more drastically….tv n internet is already doin enuff damage as it is

roosh u forgot south asia africa n east asia whom id rate 1.5 ,1 n 2 ..respectvly…..2 is ideal

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@jason
latin america ee an east asia is where ull find em. But armenia an georgia has tons of girls that are virgins an a very good place to wife hunt..g

@ ipeefreely
u really brought a good point cuz they will influence change even more drastically….tv n internet is already doin enuff damage as it is

roosh u forgot south asia africa n east asia whom id rate 1.5 ,1 n 2 ..respectvly…..2 is ideal

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U basicallly proved why latin america eastern europe n south east asia are the best…though id perfer north east asian over southeast asian

i wonder why are fillipino n thai women are more popular?whats wrong with japanses n koreans

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my mother is a SAHM, and yet…..she taught me a TON of game. most of it dealt with having self respect.

and her mexican-cajun ass was always a lady, and she taught me how to screen for a quality woman.

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Few American men travel overseas so I doubt that the EE and Latin ladies will get poisoned unless they move to USA.

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Good post roosh… I’ve known what you posted for years now. Pretty soon you will choose… Marriage or Mgtow? Remember Mgtow still sleeps with sluts if we want to but we don’t marrry them. Lol

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@ 12, 30, 32

Having read what Roosh posted, and though about it, I agree with you guys in different ways.

I agree that this might pose a problem in the future. What are your thoughts Roosh?

I think us MEN need to be not be so obsessed with casual sex, but focus more on getting with great girls that can be good wives and mothers. If we promote that, then hopefully we can help real change occur.

As for stopping the feminist epidemic, we men obviously need to continue to MAN UP and put women in their proper place. We men also MUST absolutely give no attention to these feminist bitches, let them starve of attention and die out of the evolutionary chain.

We MEN need to only give attention to real women, feminine women who have feminine traits and qualities.

I think change starts from yourself. I live in Canada, and while I have European roots and am tempted to live in Europe, for the time being I am committed to living in Canada, in a smaller type of town, in a more rural area, and finding a great women for a girlfriend and a wife. If I don’t find one here, then yes I’ll likely to go Europe.

I feel though if all of us decent, real MEN sought out, and went out of our way to settle down with good, feminine women it will help to fight this feminism. Yes, good real women are rare in North America, but they are out there. Not usually in clubs, or bars, but out on the street, in bookstores and libraries, and in other public places.

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“Good feminine” women will only like traditional masculine men. By calling women “bitches” you already showed you have no diplomacy and education, so they would never care about you.

The things is simple: people are free to play whatever role they want to, and that is great. So be who you want to be and date the ones who are like you (don’t to be a “slut” but then try to marry a virgin, that’s not how that works, hypocrites. if “sluts” are bad, you are one so of course you are BAD for marriage as well). That’s all.

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Also forgot to add @ 32,

let’s hope it stays that way. Part of what makes many of those overseas cultures so great is that they have resisted foreign or Western influence, and I can only hope they continue to resist that influence.

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“There will be further degradation going into the 22nd century with the annihilation of the family unit and rise of government co-parenting, where women will be raised via handbooks created in university programs that are approved by feminist and homosexual thought leaders.”

This has ALREADY happened, and is the very reason why things are the way they are right now!

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Danish women , feminist women , fat beautyful women , Américan women scandinavian , east european asían women etc etc the gender roles… You write a lot of what you see but seem really not to KNOW much deep about it. Look, spending a month on Eurorail , stepping out of the train for a night or two in a country does not give you nor anyone a good overview of a culture, dynamics and sociaty to write with property and make comparisons between cultures.
No doubt you are not an antropologist and you write kind of a backpack diary so like the profile of people who read your blog .

I am just lucky of having nothing to do today and jump into this blog. And lucky you to have this advise: get to use more time studying,spending time in a country , it takes money of course and patience get to LIVE a culture and many if possible THAT will give you an overview. And get you a partner, you seem having issues with women in general and in general writting too much crap!!

[Roosh: I lived in Copenhagen for two months. That’s a little longer than “a night or two,” isn’t it? How many years do I have to suffer in Denmark to know that (1) you’re unattractive and (2) it’s a shitty place for men?]

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She was talking about knowing the culture, Roosh. And of course that is a shitty place for men, there are too many “Ninas” who easily see you have problems with women and think too much crap in general lol.

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@37

As long as ‘we real men’ are content to let scummy men and slutty women take the fruits of our labor, and use it at their own discretion; what ‘we’ do changes nothing at all.

Afghanistan has avoided the entire problem of progressivism, not because every single man, woman and child over there has figured that progressivism, of which feminism is only a part, is nothing but an unmitigated tragedy; but rather because everyone there are sufficiently clued in to realize that whomever comes dragging to your door demanding you hand over your stuff to them, and do as they say; because they are divinely ordained kings, edumecated experts or popularity contest winning slick talkers or whatever; are just saying that to get you to hand over your stuff and bend over. Not because they care. Not because they magically know better than you what is the best way for you to spend your life and stuff. But simply because they want to take your stuff and like to see others bent over.

So, being thus enlightened, the Afghans do what they have always done when someone comes dragging to their door with demands; they kill them. Simplest and most sensible thing in the world; and the only proven way to avoid being progressively more enslaved by one merry band of charlatan snake oil salesmen or another. Which is why, for centuries and milennia, noone has ever been able to extract much in the way of spoils, neither of taxes nor women from them. Resulting in them generally being left alone. No taxes, no alimony, no assholes banging their wives on the sly. None of any of it. Simply because they have the darned sense to kill all and any who would even contemplate doing to them any of the above. Clever buggers, those guys.

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If one or two generations of permissiveness for women is enough for them to stop acting feminine, then femininity must not be as “natural” as you are implying that it is/should be.

I suggest that men and women have this human trait in common: given half a chance, they will act to maximize personal gain in whatever way they can. The moment women were permitted by biological intervention (the pill) and cultural change (feminism et al), many of them ***decided*** to stop behaving in a “traditional/natural feminine” way.

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My god. Actual logic in a river of pseudo-intellectual shit. Swim away, Mountain View, before Roosh gets back from complaining to his parents that their basement’s too cold. He’ll get annoyed by your clever comment and have no choice but to revert to his only trick: to sassily let you know he thinks your “(1) unattractive”.

If you respond with more evidence that gender is performative he will probably an hero in sad realisation that he has been eroticising regular human beings all along instead of these magical, submissive creatures he thinks is purely the result of biology.

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Now that women make as much or more than men there’s no reason to marry for survival. Men must bring something to the table. When they can’t, they flee to impoverished countries where the women are desperate.

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I feel like the essence of what your post is what i’ve been commenting forever and a day for on ROK.

Glad you’ve codified it, kind of pissed you didn’t earlier tbh

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@41 Stuki

Some next level MGTOW.

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A simple test to see if a country still has traditional masculine/feminine roles: Look at the stewards/stewardesses on one of their airlines.

Young, female, hot, trained to please customers? Yep, traditional. See Singapore Airlines, Korean Air, Emirates Air, all Japanese airlines.

Old crones, fat, unkept, surly and/or skinny uber gay dudes? See any American airline.

European airlines are hit or miss.

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Roosh, you are on fire man. Thank you sir. An excellent article to start the day

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Not bad, the ending was a bit devastating though. maybe humans won’t have the attention spans to read in the 22nd Century so there won’t be a government upbringing based on regulated handbooks.

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Why do you libertarian faggots exalt the free market when it comes to business, but turn into complete bitches when the same principles are applied to sex and relationships? When the fuck did you homos turn into such moralizing prudes?

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Im a 27 year old girl (woman?) and Ive been reading this blog for years. When i started, I was a 24 year old virgin who had been on some casual dates and has a couple of kisses but nothing more. I was shy and repressed. I had always focused on school and work. Im Russian and had strict parents and was raised very tradirionally. I began reading this blog at 22, still a virgin who knew that i only wanted to meet the right man to devote my life too and give him my mind body and soul untouched,and the blog helped me learn a lot about men, who i knew nothing about. It took me through finally starting dating and now being with my botfriend of 3 years, the onlt guy i have been with, and who i work hard to trear like a king. Russians teach their daughters how to take care of a man from an early age, but beyond that,, this is my first and only love and boufriend, and I have been having agreat time learning to please him. We love each other deeply and he doesnt have money or status..he is young (23) and eager and motivated and super smart, but we treat each other very well and enjoy each others company. Roosh helped me underdtand whst he was thinking a lot and how to make him hapoy.

Especiallt because my boyfriend is a natural alpha, who never even came close to committing to a girl because he says he couldnt find one worthy of his respect and who actually interested him as a person too, and with rooshs blogs insight i could understand his dynamic and have helped us make the relationship healthy and positive even in difficult circumstances. Thank you roosh for helping me. This bkog is not just for hooking up, but it can really help you get a fresh or deeper perspective on relationships, and although i had a headstart being russian haha, it helped me build a loving caring fulfilling relationship with the love of my life. I hope everyone here believes they can have it because if i can, anyone can. I had the odds stacked against me and a pretty crazy history, and im also the kind of girl most people dont meet everyday and what you guys hope to find, so i know you guys have good girls ahead of you. If anyways interested in more of my story, j cam tell it, but im sure youre already bored sick as it is.

Anyway, theres a lot of discussion on here about different cultures and gender roles and the problems with western women, etc.
I think the fact that i was raised in a different culture (russian) and stayed close to the community throughoit my teens, and then learned more about american culture and started living a more american life, i thjnk i might be able to offer a different perspective, and my comments on these types of posts.

I was taught that while men and women are equal in worth, they are different, and those differences provide the joy and color, the Yin and Yang of spiritual harmony with nature, or just the plain old sugar and spice of life.If you reduce those differences, you ruin the delicate balance and weaken the most powerful gift and most basic need of humans from birth.Men and women, at their best, give each other that intimacy and love and support that makes us human.

You can say it isnsappy, but without it, we are nothing but animals. One look at the damaged, broken, families of the ghetto, and the callous, inhuman men it breeds and the debased, desperate, mercenary women that worship them shows the rest of the country’s, and Western civiizations future. That is the end result of the current generation of little high school porn stars, who are exhibitionists to the extreme, desperate for attention, lost and angry, and using sex, consumerism, and even drugs to stifle their rage and frustration at being robbed of life’s most natural rights and pleasures, love, a family, a community, a sense of self worth, responsibility to others and to self. We are caged animals numbing our pain with what is literally the opiate of the masses.At a crucial point in our society, when youth has been damaged and their future stolen before their eyes, if this were any other time and place, the young people would rise up with fiery passion and inexhaustible energy to demand or force a change. Of course, sometimes this change was worse, but sometimes it was noble and powerful. Yet thus generation is content to be fattened for slaughter, rolling over and allowing the butcher to pat its belly as it sucks down slop of every kind, and all the while he rubs his blade back and forth in anticipation.As in 1984 and Brave New World, sex has become a tool of manipulation.

In one of the stories, it is repressed and harnessed for political gain, while in the other, empty meaningless sex, without pregnancy ever an option, is encouraged heavily. While both types have been practiced by governments around the world before, they are basically the same concept. Human sexuality, love, desire, and passion are incredibly strong and vital urges.However, they can be manipulated.

If the sex drive is repressed and love and family ties are destroyed or undermined, the tremendous untapped energy can be redirected toward political propoganda and rabid patriotism.If the sex drive is encouraged to the point of mania and all emotional and and love connections are burned out and rendered meaningless, this in turn can stifle the drive to care about society, to muster up enough anger to protest, much less risk ones life. In this case, the government can pacify young people it fears could rebel and deems a threat.That is what I think is happening, People are being stripped of their humanity, fooled into thinking their basic impulses must be satisfied at all costs, that these impulses matter above intagible and difficult things like dignity and integrity and compassion and true connection to another person. If people can learn to separate themselves from mainstream society’s every norm and contract and think for themselves, they will find this sacred unwavering band light in themselves, and in another, and they’ll discover the true power of their own hearts desire.I’m sorry this sounds cheesy, but I lost faith in people long ago, and I initially read this site in horror at how little men respected women these days.

Experiencing what I have has shown me that game is just lonely and confused men’s way of coping with damaged women and getting some of their affection, while women love themselves so little that they can’t imagine being worth more than their butt and their lips.I will finally stop. I’m sorry to hijack this board, I’ve read this site for five years, as well as Heartiste, but never dared to post because I felt I had nothing interesting to say. I probably still don’t but maybe one sentence of mine will offer some new idea or opinion, or maybe someone will be curious to know my story and the problems I face, and help me use the knowledge of human nature that we study to figure out how to proceed in myrelstionship. Or just talk for a bit…I’ve never found anyone to bring thus up with without them screaming.I’ve loved reading all these posts and the comments, I would love to offer a womens perspective on some of it, especially with my backgound, which I didn’t go into detail on,but which is probably one of the most unusual I know.I would love any comments about any of this, Sorry again for the rambling.

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Beautiful. Not cheesy at all. Simply truth… God bless you and your boyfriend!

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I have a pretty similar situation, except I’m still saving it for the right guy smile I like how my culture raises us in a traditional household. Although I might work after marriage if money is tight, if still make sure he had a nice home to come to.

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I thought this was a joke. I thought it was funny. I laughed out loud and showed it to friends saying, “Look at this hilarious satirist!”
Apparently, you are not.
I don’t want to make psychological waves here, but are we compensating for something?
Did mom not love you enough?
Did you want to fuck your sister?
Is your dick/face/personality/intellect a bit below protocol?
Just curious.
Also, “slutification” isn’t a real thing. I’m looking out for you. You want to keep up the “mentally superior” shtick, so just know that. Slutification. Nope.
Sincerely,
A feminist
JK I’m a skinny, quiet, nice girl who would like nothing more than to put extra bacon on your sandwich after birthing your six children.
Call me!
1-800-FuckYourself

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“While women love themselves so little that they can’t imagine being worth more than their butt and their lips”
That is exactly what men like Roosh and all the other idiots slaves that follow him think of women. Even a “virgin good girl” like you is an inferior human for them, that should be oppressed, controlled and shamed.

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Sophia, that was literally one of the most beautiful things I’ve ever read and I encourage you to write q blog about your experience to balance out a lot of the negative perspectives floating around.