Tradthots Are Not Trad

“Tradthot” stands for “traditional thot,” a term of mockery for women who preach traditionalism online while catering to an audience that is composed almost entirely of thirsty beta males. In the following video, I point out the hypocrisy of advocating for “tradition” without living up to its code.

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Raptus
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Of course you can’t trust them. AWALT. The game continues, I can’t wait t see the next psy-op!

Cassandra Lord
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Why do u support a rapist? Rooh V left his city because he was caught forcing a 9 year old girl into molestation.

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Tradthots like Lauren Southern are a feminist’s dream come true. She’s a 22 year old women who is not married, has no children, is entirely career-focused, is self-employed and doesn’t answer to any male boss, is rich, famous, and successful, fleeces thousands of beta orbiter men of their money and barely even shows off a bit of cleavage to do so, and then uses this money to travel the world and bang hot alpha guys in the Mediterranean while the beta cucks sit at home and whiteknight for her online. You couldn’t come up with a better feminist dream if you tried. If you traveled back in time to the 60s/70s and told Gloria Steinem about Lauren Southern’s lifestyle she would tell you that that is the feminist ideal.

Hubert Cumberdale
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She has an awful voice too. Like most feminists.

Cassandra Lord
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………………….buttttttt u and roosh v raped a 7 year old girl together!

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“fleeces thousands of beta orbiter men of their money…”

Who are these men specifically? Names?

“then uses this money to travel the world and bang hot alpha guys in the Mediterranean while the beta cucks sit at home and whiteknight for her online.”

What “hot alpha guys”? If you are going to make an accusation, offer proof.

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>Who are these men specifically? Names?
her patreon supporters which voluntarily give money. her video watchers who give ad revenue. her white knights that defend her online.

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Those are supporters, not “beta orbiters”. There is a difference here. Next time be honest with yourself.

Besides, why should you even care about the liberties of men? Do they not have the right to do what they want? Why is it even remotely a concern? How does it directly impact your life?

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Uh, if you’re supporting, especially FINANCIALLY supporting some female to play tradgirl online, then you’re her beta orbiter by definition.

And no one’s questioning their right to be a cuck, nice straw man. What we’re saying is that they shouldn’t be cucks to begin with.

Now kindly kill yourself, you faggot ass bitch.

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“Uh, if you’re supporting, especially FINANCIALLY supporting some female to play tradgirl online, then you’re her beta orbiter by definition.”

No, you are merely a supporter. You are just making up stuff here.

“And no one’s questioning their right to be a cuck, nice straw man. What we’re saying is that they shouldn’t be cucks to begin with.”

Except they aren’t cucks to begin with.

“Now kindly kill yourself, you faggot ass bitch.”

How cute of you to debase yourself in front of others. So what is your next trick up your sleeve?

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These guys are giving money to thots like Southern mainly because they find her sexually attractive. That makes them beta orbiters. And cucks, since they’re never gonna get a piece of her anyway.

And being condescending won’t give you the upper hand here, dumbass.

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Well, they’re supporting individuals who are subverting the pushback against western civilization for their own personal gain. I suppose that’s how it directly effects everyone in the West.

No one cares if they wanna be a tradthots bitch, but they aren’t immune to being called out for it.

YoreyC
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Same mentality.

Benjamin Clark
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“and then uses this money to travel the world and bang hot alpha guys in the Mediterranean while the beta cucks sit at home and whiteknight for her online.”

what about the beta cucks sitting at home and whiteknighting for RooshV?

Hubert Cumberdale
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That irritating valley girl voiced Liber-thot (((Carey Wedler))) once got all this beta orbiter attention too. As left libertarianism isn’t cool anymore, and she’s pushing 30 and getting a puffier looking face and with duller skin, her view counts have tanked. hahaha. Don’t worry guys, horse-voiced Lauren Southern has a shelf life too.

Guys can keep dropping wisdom and have a modest following their whole lives.

Cassandra Lord
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u raped a 7 year old girl

William
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Self-described ‘cool chicks’ are far from being ‘cool’.

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Roosh V is a hairy middle eastern mud who has spent his youth being ruled by muh dick, prowling after white girls. He’s jaded and bitter because he has now ‘hit the wall’ and can no longer even seduce easy bar girls. He wasted his time rutting like an animal and never developed a meaningful relationship and built a family. He will die alone, without children.

He has behaved like a looter and vandal in a troubled society. Did he take the high road? Save himself for his future bride? Nope. He was a slave to his most base and vulgar urges. Pretty pathetic, especially because he is extremely intelligent, but even those smarts couldn’t overcome horny.

His constant harping that women are all tramps is simply an expression of the limited company he kept. And why is it that it takes so much ‘game’ and strategy to get laid by all these ‘sluts’? It should be easy, shouldn’t it? Prowling around bars for fallen women is not ‘all women’. And most importantly, no traditional family will hand their gently raised virginal daughter over to a sleazy pickup artist EVER. What good father would let his beautiful daughter be defiled by a seedy kebob.

Any white boy who follows this corrupt piece of shit’s advice is a fool. His revenue stream is gonna dry up because he is fast becoming the the living example of a major loser in life if you follow his example. No man who behaves like Roosh deserves a trad girl.

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Literally nothing but shaming language and not a single solid refutation of anything Roosh says.

Cassandra Lord
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Says the rape advocate who supports his idol to rape countless 4-9 year old girls in Toronto and Silver Springs Maryland, US of America. Why do you support this rapist???????? Are you a pedophile like Roosh V?

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Fix me a sammich honey and go back to your buzzfeed activities.

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He’s a bitter, single, middle-aged childless loser whining on the internet that girls are better at e-begging than him. Go ahead and follow his adivce. His life is such a shining example of success.

Cassandra Lord
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Roosh V is a pedophile who rapes little girls at Hilton hotel not far off from the 427.

Cassandra Lord
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roosh v raped a 4 year old girl in his home town and he videotaped his rape for other child pornographers!!!!!!

Cassandra Lord
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he’s a pedophile and child pornographer!!!!!!

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If that so who’s the one shaming such a loser and even noticed such a loser? Bigger female looser. grin

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Roosh isn’t beyond my notice, because he passes himself off as alt right. He presents himself as a thought leader and example of masculine virtue. Is being a walking erection your whole life – your life’s goal amounts to chasing orgasms and having meaningless sex with strange women or short term affairs at best, is that a good example for western men?

We live in a dangerous progressive culture and he couldn’t use that big brain of his long enough to – oh, I don’t know – use a fucking pen name for god’s sake? He outed himself to be eternally harassed by psycho feminists and Commie politicians. What an idiot! How many countries is he banned from traveling to? How on earth does he introduce himself to a potential wife’s family? Yeah, I’m an author. Oh! How interesting! What do you write about? Uh, never mind. What normal woman wants a male slut for a husband and the father of her children? You idiots can keep telling yourselves that doesn’t matter! It does! My husband would break his effing face if he came near our daughter.

Could he even get a normal job now or is he totally dependant on selling his sleazy bad advise books and e-begging? He’s an alien desert pervert lurking and preying on OUR society, and he wants you to pay him to do it. His values are not Western Traditional, and he is a complete hypocrite for passing judgement on ANY other person. Hopefully this loser will remain a bare branch on his family tree.

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Be quiet now and go make that sandwich.

Men are talking

IslandGirl
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Sorry, I’m crashing your little pity party. And if you’re going to respond to me, at least quip with something original – that was funny in 1995, it’s just boring now. And do try to string more than two sentences together so you don’t come off as a complete midwit.

Marius Aetius Lucullus
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so … what are you hoping to achieve at this site with your mentally unhinged rants?

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She’s a woman, she’s driven to try to interfere in men’s affairs and tell them what to do.

Most women back off when men let them know they’re not wanted, but some of them have higher testosterone levels, and this combines with their desire for attention and evolutionary drive for multiple sexual partners to make them seek out male enclaves. There they can exhibit themselves to the men suitable for producing young, or for acquiring resources to support the young of these dominant males.

She’s probably one of the THOTs that Roosh talked about in the video. In fact, by the faintly British phrasing of some of her commentary here, I would guess she’s one of the THOTs that Roosh called out specifically, Tara McCarthy.

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Or should I say, “Tarasita Hanrahan.” Go ahead. Google her with “Reddit,” if you want to see what this THOT is all about.

Marius Aetius Lucullus
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bravo, great answer

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You are 100% right. Only geeks, weirdos and losers can not understand that Roosh is the ultimate loser. The guy is 40 and he says girls going to bars are sluts ?
Freaking weirdo….

He acted with girls like a teenager his all life, no Real girlfriend, no friends at all (he is always alone in his Books)…

Everybody in his right mind can understand easily that this guy is a freaking loser.

It’s sad, but you Know in the alt right there is a lot of guy who can’t Fuck…the become bitter, and hate women.
And some loser like Roosh go to Ukraine, poorest country in Europe to Fuck no knowing they can only fuck because of money…they know women right ?

That’s why roosh will be alone forever

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You call him loser only with one reason – he’s doesn’t want to fuck stupid girls anymore and want to start a family. That’s a lose to you, cause women loves only thirsty alpha fuckers. smile

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No, she called him out for wanting meaningless sex.

Orestes
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Thank you for confirm my point. smile (we all know that females never spoke the truth)

Stephania Vazquez
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Dishonesty is not specific to women. Your grammar is atrocious, fyi.

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Daryush also raped a 4 year old female while he was in Toronto. He forced her to perform oral rape. Gosh this man should be sent to death row!!!!!!

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We at WGSI at UofT will have Roosh investigated for accusations that he molested several pre adolescent females while he was in Toronto…..i will have one of the victims come forward publicly now that’s she’s 18…roosh v raped her 5 years ago while she was 12….roosh v told her that he likes his women thin and no hair…..roosh v how can u do such a thing to rape that 12 year old girl? u are a rapist…you raped a 4 year old in Silver Springs and thats y u fled to Eastern Europe because u were being investigattted for child rape!

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He’s jaded and bitter because he has now ‘hit the wall’ and can no longer even seduce easy bar girls. He wasted his time rutting like an animal and never developed a meaningful relationship and built a family. He will die alone, without children.

See, you’re showing yourself for the STHOT you are. That’s Stupid THOT you are.

You don’t know anything about Roosh. You’ve never read anything of his or you’d know that he’s looked high and low for just one of you THOTs that was a decent woman. He doesn’t want you to be whores. You just are.

He probably won’t die alone though, because I think he’ll figure out what I did about 30 years ago. The only place to find a decent woman is outside of the U.S., and outside of Europe. It’s getting hard because slut morality is penetrating all the world now through the internet, but there are still place to go – basically places where nobody else even thinks to go, especially cockhounds like you.

You probably won’t read about where he ends up going eventually, because all the thirsty guys on here who can’t figure out anything on their own would just follow him there, and then ruin it with sluts like you.

He has behaved like a looter and vandal in a troubled society. Did he take the high road? Save himself for his future bride? Nope.

He took what you whores gave him and made the best of it. This troubled society you speak of – it’s your society THOT. Enjoy it, because the only guys worth having, guys like Roosh who don’t buy your bullshit and aren’t afraid to think for themselves are leaving. You’ll have plenty of little soy boy clones to choose from though.

His constant harping that women are all tramps is simply an expression of the limited company he kept

Listen to me when I tell you that I am older than you and Roosh put together. I have been around, and I have seen what you women have done to the west. Roosh sees the truth and speaks it. There’s nothing else left in this country, with the possible exception of a few backwoods religious areas. Places where whores like you aren’t likely to be found.

seedy kebob

See,the thing about Roosh is he’s consistent. He’s got values and morals. THOTs like you don’t. One minute you’re spewing your leftist inclusiveness and diversity tripe, and the next you’re calling a guy from Persia a kebob.

Begone slut. A cock approaches, and, of course, you must ride it.

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Interesting effigy you built and tore down there. Completely missed the mark, but I hope it was theraputic for you at least. Leftist inclusiveness and diversity tripe? Lol, where did you get that from? Haha. He has to go back! And you are more than welcome to leave too!

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Too bad your imaginary husband isn’t here, as it’s way past time for you to be spanked with a hairbrush

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Very informative observing this THOT. She was all about trying to push the white nationalism buttons on guys to turn them against Roosh.

Never mind that he’s second generation, and Persians are the original Caucasians anyway.

Typical dumb THOT trick. She forgot that since she’s not bending over showing her tits to guys, or batting her eyes at them in a video, she can’t get the little head to think for the big head.

All women are really like that and these so-called white nationalist women video THOTS are the worst.

One thing for sure. We’ll never solve our problems with THOTs like that worming their way into the discussion and turning it to their own little nefarious attention-seeking ends.

Guys really ought to stop paying any attention to these whores at all. They’re just women. Listening to them is what got us into trouble to begin with.

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“Listening to them is what got us into trouble to begin with.”

Exactly why if you are single, you will remain that way, and if you are married, you have no control of your situation so you come here to lament.

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What I’m curious by is why IslandGerll cares so much. It seems odd that a PHD in gender studies lit and university faculty member would troll Roosh like this. That is who you are, isn’t it MH? Why are you here and what are hoping to accomplish?

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Im glad you took the time to disarm this ignorant comment from islandgirl.

I would say Roosh is a man of truth and honesty. He went out there with genuis intentions and his experience made him what he is now. I would say he isnt proud of the ‘sexual situation’ he ended up…

But he can be very proud for something else:
He provides real life data, uncensored and unfiltered. With honest self reflection. He shares his failures too. For this very valueable raw information he deserves respect! It was such a hard task swimming in the ‘shark tank’ and exposing his good soul to all the filth and pain! Its understandable that he also took some sexual enjoyment on his way and served his sexual appetite- even though its probably not the real deal that he searched for… but it was the thing that was ‘offered’ to him. I guess if he had this wisdom when he was younger he would have done things differently. Some had to do the hard work.
Guys of the next generation can use this data in a way which serves them the best. Not only for fornication, in recent posts I see him warning about the damage it can do. But for example for proper screening (what he demonstrated right away).

On the other hand we have these hypocrats, who can decieve a lot of young unexperienced guys and are potential dangerous sources. Roosh looks very noble compared to them!

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“Its understandable that he also took some sexual enjoyment on his way and served his sexual appetite- even though its probably not the real deal that he searched for… but it was the thing that was ‘offered’ to him.”

In reality, Roosh debased himself by engaging in these behaviors, instead of showing self-discipline. He destroyed his chances of a meaningful relationship but publishing online his debauchery for cheap fame and fortune. He is reaping what he sowed.

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“The only place to find a decent woman is outside of the U.S., and outside of Europe.”

No, there are plenty of decent women here in the states and across the pond, as evident by hundreds of thousands of men dating women each year. Now settling down may be a challenge, but eventually we men find a way.

“It’s getting hard because slut morality is penetrating all the world now through the internet, but there are still place to go – basically places where nobody else even thinks to go, especially cockhounds like you.”

In reality, the slut morality penetrates men and women who lack the discipline to settle down.

“You probably won’t read about where he ends up going eventually, because all the thirsty guys on here…”

Please stop embarrassing yourself. Some guys are “thirsty”, but most men today know what they want in a woman. Just because their preferences do not line up with what you think they should focus on does not mean they are other than masculine.

“He took what you whores gave him and made the best of it.”

No, he made excuses and now is going all gamma because the choices he made are coming back to bite him. And, of course, he is hitting that wall, so there is more blowback by him.

“He’s got values and morals.”

You mean values and morals that run counter to the West. He is a Vandal.

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Look hun, you’ve been told several times now.

Go make the goddamn sandwich.

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“He took what you whores gave him and made the best of it.”

No, he made excuses and now is going all gamma because the choices he made are coming back to bite him. And, of course, he is hitting that wall, so there is more blowback by him.

“He’s got values and morals.”

You mean values and morals that run counter to the West. He is a Vandal.

BINGO!!

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Typical loser who can’t get a girl in his own country.
You are going to fund a wife in Asia ?
Ugly loser.

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Does this writer have any valid thoughts from your perspective?

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You seem like a nice lady, so let me say this as kindly as possible.

Please leave. You’re not wanted here and your opinion is not valued. In fact, your opinion and input is resented.

We really don’t value women’s input on these subjects, and we don’t care if you think “this writer” has any “valid thoughts” or not.

“This writer’s” value is not something for women to decide or even comment on here.

Of course, you won’t go away because women have to hound men and follow them about everywhere trying to poke their noses into men’s business, so you won’t go, but that is what you should do, and would do, if we had anything to say about it.

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Lol! Who is we? You mean you.

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Does your husband know you are out bothering men on the internet?

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Does your husband know?

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Head’s up! I turned my husband on to this blog. Am I bothering men? How so? Isn’t this a take it or leave it sort of thing? If men are “bothered” by me they need to add some teflon to their exteriors. I am gentle and kind. So me “bothering” someone means they need to toughen up substantially.

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Who is we? You? I like what I read here and I believe other women are interested too. Roosh will be quite a catch for a lucky woman! 🙂

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Roosh gets a lot of flak from lots of different people, but his writing and journalism really is quite brilliant if you look at it in its broad scope over the years. If you’re smart enough to think objectively there’s quite a bit to chew on.
I know you didn’t ask me the above question but I thought it deserved a decent reply.

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Thank you, Superman. I haven’t been a reader for years and happened upon his Kill Whitey entry. I’ve read or listened to almost all of his subsequent dialogues and have truly enjoyed them. He’s put into words some of the thoughts I’ve had flitting at the margins of my mind. I am not frightened by a man’s POV and am appreciative of the bright intelligence. And honestly, I sympathize with the struggle that you catch glimpses of. Not so many commenters at those times. Lol! I know this is a ‘haven’ for men and I do apologize for any offense at my presence. I also believe in division of the sexes to a mild degree.

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Listen, most of the self proclaimed “men” on here ain’t nothing but behind the screen keyboard warriors;)
The problem is that those “men” never have guts to get out of this “haven” and into real life where deeds speak.
These men looooooove to show off as some ancient warriors/figthers on here (see their avatars), but NOT SINGLE ONE OF THEM ever had guts to openly stand by Roosh during his travels through Canada! NOT ONE!!
Manhood is in deeds, not words.

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Yes, I agree. It’s easy to eviscerate someone and there’s a lot of ‘intellect’ flashed up in here. Holding each other up and supporting each other is our challenge. Thanks.

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hope this comment wasnt directed at me FC?

… as im not Canadian, so i personally cannot do anything for Canada.
also i thought the vast (speculative of course) numbers of readers/posters/visitors to this blog are from the USA, as far as quantity goes of course.
(im not American either btw)

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NO, it was not. You know how and are able to deliver the message the proper way. There have been a lot of folks on here during all these years with some telling avatars like “fighting vikings and similar crap” and with names sounding like “feminism destroyer and similar”;))
That’s what I mean;)

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no worries there FC, i have a similar disdain for big talking do nothing white supremacists/race baiters .

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That’s a thing, exactly! A lots of folks on here are all bark/no bite. When Roosh really needed help and support while traveling across Canada not one damn keyboard warrior had guts to show up and make himself heard.
How come feminazis came out in droves and were all over Montreal and Toronto, while all those so called “men” with fighters on their avatars were hiding in their basements.

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have noticed (you most probably have also) that over the years both the Roosh V & ROK has taken a bit of a turn, which way, well that’s another argument, and the men posting have changed also, the good quality informative men who used to post a few years ago when i first started reading (you were one of the good originals also) have fallen away to be replaced buy alot of angry bitter guys, i can see things from their angle sure, but the improve/better yourself side of these sites have been replaced as a place for (i dont want to use the term beta) guys to have a cry and bitch about girls/women & as of late the dreaded “N” word sympathizers, maybe this is a smear campaign i dont know, but damn, something sure has changed round here, maybe even Roosh is scratching his head a little about this change?

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Don’t you understand WHY all of the above shit has happened?:)
Look, a lot of wise adult males have given up on modern society and either left North America for good like I did or found their niche where they could feel more or less comfortable/secure or not bothered much by mainstream and feminism.
And those males obviously got replaced by “angry, bitter and sex hungry guys”;))
Why are they bitter and angry? Cause they always tend to blame somone else for their OWN faults, deficiences and setbacks.
Someone is always guilty/at fault that THOSE GUYS can NOT get a girl, get educated, learn a foreign language, get a good job, save money, travel abroad, settle where they WANT to be!
Someone, but NEVER one of those guys;)
Thus you get all kinds of baloney excuses like “evil Toronto cops, millions spent on policing, evil universities teaching feminism, baaad chinks taking all the jobs from “poor Canadian chaps”, expensive flight tickets and so and so on!” You can easily find a lot of examples in the last 4-5 topics.
There is always “something” stopping those guys from life heroics;) ALWAYS!
But in real life DEEDS speak, not words!

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oh yeah im with you on that FC, i dont actually know what is going on with the whole ‘rp movement’ it seems to have hit a wall imo.
im well aware that there is certain people who wish men who actually step back and look from the outside in would disappear off the face of the planet.

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Certain people?;) I’d say an “overwhelming majority of people”;))

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A lot of young guys jump onto the manosphere, which can water down the discourse. I think the Alt Right posters are a result of RoK and Roosh covering more political related topics in the past year or two.

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Add on-your avatar is a real person, albeit from centuries ago, not some imaginary warrior or political leader;)

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An actual “trad girl” wouldn’t be on the internet hurling insults like “mud” and “kebob”. I’m certain of that.

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Racism was pretty traditional. Overcoming it was and is liberal.

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Actual traditional girls wouldn’t be on the internet hurling insults like “mud” and “kebob”. I’ve seen enough traditional girls to know not a single one acted like some internet troll. They all were naturally kind and feminine. They were also Christian.

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Are you saying there aren’t traditional girls in the deep South, with “old time Southern values”? Or in the KKK? What about girls who follow the traditions of Islam? They are VERY conservative. The same can be said for many who follow Hinduism.

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I don’t particularly care about the women that follow Islam or Hinduism, and what constitutes traditionalism for them. I’m specifically talking about Western women.

Regardless if the woman is from the south, may or may not have some level of racist views, the same point stands. If she’s on the internet behaving like some internet troll, hurling insults like “kebob” she would not be acting traditional in the slightest, and it’s a guarantee she would not be a traditional girl.

I’m not saying she may not hold “racist” views of any kind. But there’s a difference between holding some kind of a potentially racist view, and acting and behaving like the girl I mentioned above.

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To be fair, no girl wants a guy who’s “saved himself.” Makes it look like you can’t get women. Huge turn off.

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I must say you and like-minded women are disgusting as hell. Walking in darkness and basically nothing more than an (intelligent) animal.

I strongly encourage you to look for god and ‘walk in the spirit of christ’ instead of following your filthy corrupted animalistic needs. Then you will see what beauty is really inside of you.

God demands purity from his people. Especially from the women, but from man too. Once you walk in light and see the truth you can’t longer respect and love a women if she isnt chaste, like its supposed to be when she marries her husband. With fornication you are sinning against your own body and doing major damage. Until you get this spirit you are blinded. What Im talking about is SUPERIOR WISDOM from the creater itself… nothing comparable to the trash that you bite in. With this kind of female-male connection that Im talking about its possible to develop TRUE love, not your cheap imitation.

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I’m a guy, dude. Wish it worked the way you think it does, but youre probably young and can be forgiven your ignorance and inexperience. Your best bet if you want to avoid fornication because you believe it’s a sin is to at least project the impression that you could get women if you chose to. Then your chastity would be admirable and maybe not even slow you down in the wife hunt. If you’re a virgin because you have no options on the other hand women will sense that and friend zone you.

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I appreciate your response and can agree with most part of it. I would say its still important to be able to (man)handle the girl, and exude authority over her… even when ‘less experienced’. Its definetly harder compared to someone who has ‘slayed’ often.

By the way… Its good to see how its possible to have good constructive debate with someone!

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Men don’t hit the wall. They get older and, depending upon how well they maintain themselves (hitting the gym regularly and eating healthy can keep a man in appeal mode long after a woman has become invisible), they simply diminish over time…

In terms of ‘women are all tramps’ – based upon the reported number of partners most women have, combined with how quickly they will sleep with someone they fancy, makes it difficult to refute the claim.

If there are ‘virginal daughters’ left…

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“Men don’t hit the wall…they simply diminish over time.”

No, men hit the wall just like women. Poor diet, drug/alcohol abuse, lack of exercise, and genetics play a role here.

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Lol, if he looked like Dolph Lundgren in his prime, you’d be calling him a “cuck” or accuse him of “punching right”.

Since you’re a girl, its obvious you get pissed when guys like Roosh call out attention seeking sluts, because it wakes up more beta guys who would have potentially orbited around you.

The fact that you accuse Roosh of hitting the wall, even though men look the best at his age, just shows that you’re projecting your own insecurity of hitting the wall, the same goes for all these tradsluts who suddenly decide traditional values work once they hit 25, after they’ve already sucked and fucked throughout high school and college.

Just make sure you crop your body out of the picture when you post on POF.

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hey mate, you still posting on ROK?

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Yeah sometimes, but its annoying lately having to check the emails for notifications, and the recent influx of Alt Righters trolling the comments as revenge for Roosh’s Tradthot video.

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i hear ya, has gone to the pack a bit lately

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I’m assuming Roosh will eventually implement a better comment system. I think the current one was rushed due to the abrupt cucking out of Disqus.

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i hope so also, alot of the guys that had real insightful knowledge and ideas seem to have been replaced by loads of white supremacists who are doing their absolute best at making the place look like Stormfront, could be a planned attack to finally get ROK/Roosh shut down for good, i dont know, for whatever reason the place is just a shadow of its former self at the moment (FormerCanadian and i were lamenting this very topic as well)

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Yeah its unfortunate, but at least we have the comments here and RooshV Forum.

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Roosh V rapist

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roosh v raped several underage females in canada……he raped a 7 year old girl at a playground in Etobicoke……..roosh uses his pickup lines on 5 year old girls…..he also raped a 4 year old girl at his home city in D.C……don’t let this rapist go away from justice…..roosh v u need to go in jail for child rape!

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we’re watching u rapist!
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Tradthots are definitely not trad, but neither are tradchads

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what is a tradchad?

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I like Roosh’s minimalist use of closet space.

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The Amish and Mennonites are increasingly buying farms in the area I grew up in. They are opening more stores and restaurants as well. It’s very welcomed although some people complain about the increase in horse and buggies on the roads. It’s now common to see an Amish girl in the local Wal-Mart which never happened thirty years ago.

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“This is how women need to show off for attention – period.”

Some women, assuredly. Now, the reason that you are bitter is that you make all sorts of demands that are not being met; thus, the continuous rants on how women ought to behave. Undoubtedly you are married but are not in control of the relationship, so you come here and act as if you are the boss.

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Looks like you are ill-mannered and tempered. Definitely not father material.

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Haha this lady is quite obviously the bitter one^ undoubtedly she has packed feminine fertile qualities her entire life so she come here to Moan about men having some sense and heterosexuality.

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Lacked

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Run this app on any THOT who gets your attention for a wakeup

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Great post, Roosh. Funny how there are some commenters who start going off about whatever of your views/actions they don’t like. They are missing the fact that even people who may have some views/actions one disagrees with, might also have some very good points. Don’t write someone off because just because you disagree with something they said/did. Any discussion will be much poorer if it only occurs among people who 100% agree with each other on everything.

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Funny how there are soooo many behind the screen “male warriors” on here, but NOT ONE OF THEM has ever shown up in Montreal or Toronto when Roosh actually was there and might have needed some help and support;)
But yeaaaah, they are all so brave to joke about “Go make me a sandwich”;)

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I called this a couple of years ago. I never believed these twats were anti-left wing.

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Here’s a similar story. Hanna Wigh if the Swedish Democrats. Pretended for a long time and then turned on the party.

https://www.thelocal.se/20171123/swedish-prosecutor-drops-sweden-democrat-rape-investigation

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The ‘traditional woman’ would probably not be such a great thing in modern society anyway, she belonged to a different age where a man and a family’s requirements were different. What we should really be thinking about is what makes a good woman these days. Certain values from the truly traditional women of yesteryear would be worth keeping; yet certain things may have to change. For example, we would probably expect a woman to work for a few years before having children as a family home usually requires a double income these days, but we should still reject those women that wish to prioritise their career over family till their mid 30’s. It might not hurt for a man to know how to do a little cooking and cleaning these days; but if a woman can’t even do it at all, she’s not worth it. There’s many influential people trying to tell us what makes a good woman these days, but they are usually the last kind of people that we should be listening to.

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The ‘traditional woman’ would probably not be such a great thing in modern society anyway, she belonged to a different age where a man and a family’s requirements were different.

Bulshit! In reality, most modern women are still traditional at heart. #NotAll

Like traditional women of yesteryear, modern women still expect men to man-up and walk into fire for women & children. #NAWALT

What we should really be thinking about is what makes a good woman these days.

You reek of a misogynistic loser manlet. ALL women are perfect the way they are. #MeToo

Certain values from the truly traditional women of yesteryear would be worth keeping; yet certain things may have to change. For example, we would probably expect a woman to work for a few years before having children as a family home usually requires a double income these days, but we should still reject those women that wish to prioritise their career over family till their mid 30’s.

Another conniving and sinister scheme by fiendish agents of patriarchy such as yourself to enslave & oppress women by means of age-shaming. Dafook be wrong with mid 30’s women??? My feminist mother (peace be upon her) gave birth to me during her 86th winter and on top of that, she didn’t need no mansperm in order to conceive. Such was the stellar level of her ferocious strength and independence from anything male.

It might not hurt for a man to know how to do a little cooking and cleaning these days; but if a woman can’t even do it at all, she’s not worth it.

How cute. You just debased yourself by admitting that you can’t cook & clean, and then you have the gall to express any expectation of women??? Precisely why you shall be single forevermore and shall die alone during a planecrash or a nuclear holocaust.

There’s many influential people trying to tell us what makes a good woman these days, but they are usually the last kind of people that we should be listening to.

Excuses, excuses. You’re either a faggot or a typical gamma weakling who intends to shirk from your God-given privilege to fuck the opposite sex, perpetuate the English race and preserve the English civilization.

For once in your life, man-up and be a real English man. Go live in the countryside and marry the local spinster. She might merely be the 2nd, instead of the 1st, hottest & whitest woman in the Albion after Meghan Markle, but she can give you all kinds of asperger children. #Inshaallah

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This is exactly what I’m thinking. Couldn’t say it better myself.

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Roosh, a couple of things I’d like to comment on here.

First, I get what you are saying about her getting all those followers because she is attractive and they are horny pathetic bored men, or what you call beta-orbiters. But you assume she is in it for the money. She could be, but she could be in it to influence people. Who knows, maybe the money she receives she will use only for her cause of traditionalism or something. Her thoughts may not be original, but it wouldn’t make her a fraud. If she is only in it for the money and doesn’t care about her supposed cause, that would be fraud.

Second, you said you dated a woman that you knew wasn’t conservative because she didn’t like Donald Trump. Anyone who thinks about it and has been paying attention knows that Donald Trump is no conservative. Conservatives had big issues of conscience deciding if they should throw in with him, but eventually decided to because 1) Hillary was the opposite of conservative, 2) there was no other real choice after the primaries (they would have preferred a different Republican candidate), and 3) Trump was going along with some conservative principles that they cared about — some of them.

Third, I want to say that a lot of your discussions about men and women seem to be based on some flawed logic. It seems that your ideas are basically, that men are better than women, but that women, “because they have vaginas,” have more power than men. I won’t argue about men being better than women; I actually think people should be judged on merit irrespective of gender and that all people have equal rights; but I know you are “traditional” and according to those ideas women and men have their gender roles, places in society, and proper ways of acting. No, I want to address the second part. I agree with you that women have a power over men (the extent of which they might not even realize or use) by nature of their sexuality. Men are not helpless; we have a will of our own as you yourself are excising. But women can often get what they want through their “womanly wiles.” What you are ignoring is the flip side of this. Men have power over women too. I could mention everything in the news about women feeling helpless to object to men’s sexual advances in the workplace for fear of negative repercussions to their careers; but you might blame that on their use of their looks in the first place, so I wont even use this. Instead, I will just point out that men women make $0.70 for every $1.00 a man makes for the same job and the same amount of work, that men get both hired and promoted over women, and men vastly outnumber women in the highest positions throughout business and government. This is direct power over women, financial or legal. And, or course, men overall are physically stronger than women, and men raping and sexual assaulting women is a horrible example of men having power over women.

Finally, I want to comment that yes, women may gain weight or lose their looks during marriage, though not all do. But men often do too. A man may think, “My wife’s body doesn’t look like it did before she got pregnant,” or “her breasts aren’t as firm as they used to be,” and “I didn’t sign on for that.” But a woman may think, “I didn’t sign on for a husband who would lose all of his hair, whose butt would get saggy.” For those husbands who are staying in shape but whose wives used to be but aren’t now, did the weight gain happen after pregnancy? Were you understanding yet supportive of her desire to lose it afterwards, even if it took longer then you thought it “should”? Before bitching about it, you try being pregnant and see if it is easy or not. I wouldn’t want to try it. Did she used to be thin but just started gaining weight for no apparent reason? Did she have any reason to stay in shape? Both people should make an effort to continue to look good for their spouse. Neither should ever have the mindset of “Well, I caught him/her, I’m married, I don’t have to worry about looking good now.” Yes you do, you want to keep that person! And keep that person happy! Are you showing your wife that you appreciate her? If not, why is she trying to stay looking good?

That’s all I have.

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Also, why should a woman want to be Trad? What is in it for her? I can see why men want them to be Trad, it makes perfect sense that men want them to be submissive to them. The only reason I can think of is if she feels her religion requires it. Or, if she was raised that way and just wants to keep the traditions she was raised with, whether she liked them or not, whether they were degrading, demeaning, dangerous, or not. Or, if for some unfathomable reason, she believes that men are better than her and should be in charge.

Why should any father want to have his daughter be Trad? The same as above, or because he wants to keep men in charge. But if a man loves his daughter and wants her to be all she can be in life with no limits, he would not.

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I will just point out that men women make $0.70 for every $1.00 a man makes for the same job and the same amount of work

It used to baffle me why any employer would NOT want to hire women exclusively in order to cut corners. Now I understand why – it’s misogyny, male privilege, and male camaraderie all rolled into one. The Orange Hitler could’ve exclusively hired female construction workers, the non-orange Hitler could’ve exclusively used women für die Wehrmacht, heck, even the Selected Service should be able to exclusively draft women and save $0.30.

men get both hired and promoted over women, and men vastly outnumber women in the highest positions throughout business and government.

Not to mention that those men aren’t nearly as capable as the women who got skipped over. Seriously, it’s like a hereditary curse going all the way back hundreds of years ago. George Washington was promoted as the Commander-in-Chief of the continental army despite the fact that there were literally thousands of women who were more capable than that childless loser. #Triggered!

And never forget the egregious outrage that the US gubmin exclusively promoted men as the founding fathers of the US and brushed aside literally thousands of more capable women. Fuck! We could’ve had founding mothers and saved $0.30 to boot! #Outrage!

Enough of the past and of the gubmin sector, similar egregious outrages also happened in private sectors in more recent years! Microsoft promoted Bill Gates as its founder & CEO, Facebook promoted Mark Zuckerberg as its founder & CEO, SpaceX promoted Elon Musk as its founder & CEO; and denying the God-given rights of literally millions of more capable women from being promoted as their respective founders and CEOs. #Blasphemy!

For those husbands who are staying in shape but whose wives used to be but aren’t now, did the weight gain happen after pregnancy? Were you understanding yet supportive of her desire to lose it afterwards, even if it took longer then you thought it “should”?

Take yer time. As long as it takes no longer than 60 years, us REAL MEN can wait and are overcome with pure joy while we’re at it.

Before bitching about it, you try being pregnant and see if it is easy or not. I wouldn’t want to try it.

Just a hunch, but I suspect men can’t get pregnant and women, even Wonder Woman, can’t produce sperm. CMIIW though.

Did she used to be thin but just started gaining weight for no apparent reason?

Having successfully trapped a man in a legally binding financial contract called marriage is more than a valid reason to NO LONGER starve the ravenous beast inside. It’s payback time! Hmm……..donuts……….

Did she have any reason to stay in shape?

Prolly not, she got you hooked already. Time to drop the mask and show you the real her……..”I’m a land whale, here me roar.”

Both people should make an effort to continue to look good for their spouse. Neither should ever have the mindset of “Well, I caught him/her, I’m married, I don’t have to worry about looking good now.” Yes you do, you want to keep that person! And keep that person happy! Are you showing your wife that you appreciate her?

Throwing away the care free life of bachelorhood, paying all the bills, let her cuck me and fuck Chads & Tyrones aren’t appreciative enough? Holy fucking shit……well….I guess I’ll just have to work my ass off even harder to buy her the handbag, shoes, and lifestyle she always wanted. I’m not complaining though, for I am a REAL MAN and an alpha one at that.

If not, why is she trying to stay looking good?

Err……uhm…..because neither should ever have the mindset of “well, I caught him/her, I’m married, I don’t have to worry about looking good now”…………..did you not say that?

Also, why should a woman want to be Trad? What is in it for her?

Indeed, nothing to be gained by becoming a GENUINE Trad woman. There IS however, something to be gained by women PRETENDING to be a Trad. #Bait&SwitchTheMoronTillMarriage

I can see why men want them to be Trad, it makes perfect sense that men want them to be submissive to them.

Most Tradmen are submissive to the IRS. #NotAll

Why should any father want to have his daughter be Trad? The same as above, or because he wants to keep men in charge. But if a man loves his daughter and wants her to be all she can be in life with no limits, he would not.

My daughters wanted to be fatherfuckers and I happily obliged. #Lovemydaughters #WithNoLimits #Literally

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Well, it’s clear to me that one of the following is true:
1. you were too angry and triggered to give a rational and reasoned response to me, or
2. you were intellectually unable to, or
3. perhaps you recognized the truths I wrote but hoped you could tear them down with straw-man arguments, attempted mockery, and feigned extreme emotion, or most likely,
4. you just wanted to troll me.

But you didn’t directly address any of my points. I mean, I would have accepted as valid something like, “Well, one reason that business pay women $0.70 to $1.00 for men on average could be that they think hiring a woman is more risky; she might get pregnant and decide to leave the workforce to stay at home and then the business loses everything they had invested in training her.” There could be an argument for something like that.

But the truth is, business do it because they CAN. It’s economics. You pay your workers the least you can get away with, and women entered the workforce as secondary workers and it’s never caught up yet.

Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, it makes perfect sense that these men are the CEO’s. They created or co-created the company and the concepts behind it, and helped found it from the beginning. But they are the exception, not the rule. And I’m not talking just about the very top when it comes to the “glass ceiling,” but all of the “C-level” jobs and the boards of directors.

“Throwing away the care free life of bachelorhood, paying all the bills, let her cuck me and fuck Chads & Tyrones aren’t appreciative enough?” No. Leaving bachelorhood is your choice, and is the entrance fee to marriage, just as she does with bachelorette-hood. Paying all the bills? Not at my house, and not at many. That’s a choice you two make together. LET her cuck you and fuck Chads & Tyrones? WTF dude? If she wants you to do that for her and you are, then you are right, she should be appreciative, but I’m not sure how you can call yourself one a REAL MAN and an alpha!

The rest of your comments are just nonsense. I hope someone who really wants to think about things and rationally discuss them steps up.

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Well, it’s clear to me that one of the following is true:
1. you were too angry and triggered to give a rational and reasoned response to me, or
2. you were intellectually unable to, or
3. perhaps you recognized the truths I wrote but hoped you could tear them down with straw-man arguments, attempted mockery, and feigned extreme emotion, or most likely,
4. you just wanted to troll me.

Well, whom do you believe? Your lying eyes and voices in yer head or words of REAL MEN like yours truly?

But you didn’t directly address any of my points.

What points?

I mean, I would have accepted as valid something like, “Well, one reason that business pay women $0.70 to $1.00 for men on average could be that they think hiring a woman is more risky; she might get pregnant and decide to leave the workforce to stay at home and then the business loses everything they had invested in training her.” There could be an argument for something like that.

*EYES ROLLED* If you’re such a preggophobe, simply hire transgender women or post-menopausal women then. How dumb can you be?

But the truth is, business do it because they CAN. It’s economics. You pay your workers the least you can get away with, and women entered the workforce as secondary workers and it’s never caught up yet.

Economics indeed, so why NOT exclusively hire women and save $0.30? #GreatestUnsolvedMystery

Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, it makes perfect sense that these men are the CEO’s. They created or co-created the company and the concepts behind it, and helped found it from the beginning.

Those men might have created those companies but in order to remedy the fact that men vastly outnumber women in the highest positions of power throughout business and government, making women with PHD in gender studies as CEOs of their companies is the very least thing they can do. #HeforShe

In case you haven’t noticed, now be 2017, soon be 2018, equal opportunity is sooooo last century! Equal results now! #MoreFreeShitForWomen

But they are the exception, not the rule. And I’m not talking just about the very top when it comes to the “glass ceiling,” but all of the “C-level” jobs and the boards of directors.

Precisely because they are the exceptions then they should set the powerful example for all the lesser men out there. “Hi dudes, the three of us worked our asses off to build our companies from scraps. But now we’re making women as our CEOs and kiss their asses to boot! So y’all swinging dicks can too!” #Y’allToo

Leaving bachelorhood is your choice, and is the entrance fee to marriage, just as she does with bachelorette-hood.

Actually, I just wanted to perpetuate my race (the Albino Mulatto race) and propagate my gene into where no one has gone before. And I thought I didn’t need no marriage to do both, boy, was I wrong. #CommonLawMarriage #Shhheeeeeiiitt

Paying all the bills? Not at my house, and not at many. That’s a choice you two make together.

She threatened to falsely accuse me of DV plus rape plus micto-aggressions, and to call the whole Goddamed SWAT teams on my ass if I didn’t comply, but I said no need for any of that because I’m a REAL MAN!

Long ago, my entor told me how the laws of man and the laws of physics don’t apply to REAL MEN, bullets even bounced off them, so the urban legend has it. They’re literally Superman minus the vulnerability to Kryptonites.

HOWEVER…..precisely because I’m a REAL MAN, each time my wife told me to jump, I asked “how high?” And the rest is her story err I mean history.

LET her cuck you and fuck Chads & Tyrones? WTF dude? If she wants you to do that for her and you are, then you are right, she should be appreciative, but I’m not sure how you can call yourself one a REAL MAN and an alpha!

Dude, when you’re a REAL JOKE err I mean REAL MAN then ‘happy life happy wife’ MUST always comes first!! But what if your schlong ain’t long enough for your wife’s emotional need??? Well, in order for your wife to be happy, you pay Chads & Thrones to fuck her happy. Seriously, how are you not understanding such a simple logic? #HowOldAreYa?

The rest of your comments are just nonsense. I hope someone who really wants to think about things and rationally discuss them steps up.

Nonsense? No doubt to your shallow mind and your limited understanding of the danger of intersectional toxic masculinity. Here, you need to learn how to recognize the enemies of (liberal) men and how to check your conservative male privilege:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3Ks2T_P9Kk

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You’re wildly grabbing for straws. The answer my cupcake lies between your legs. Your ultimate purpose for existence on this great green Earth is to BREED, to TIT FEED and to SERVICE thy patriarchal master.

No happier and fulfilled can a woman be than to give herself body and soul unto her patriarchal rock. With MAN she becomes whole and her soul becomes complete.

You sound like you’re at war with yourself. You’re sadly self destructing. Time is not your friend. MAN is. LOOK down between ye empty legs. OPEN ye ears the patriarchy calls. Your vain words speak to no one. Ye busy tongue wiggles into the empty wind and your loins remain VACANT.

Read this again, once, twice thrice, until tears well up. Then in your mind’s eye, place your tiny precious foot into the patriarch’s warm shoe and then stand with a deeep breath, raise your arms and extholl with all your spirit “HAIL THE PATRIARCHY!!” The age of MAN rumbles on the horizon. Open ye heart and ye legs for HIM!!

Amen.

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Very good message… And excellent writing ;). Good to see somebody WHO GETS IT.

Women are created as supporters and child breeders for men and to serve them… he on the other side is going to rule over her… WITH LOVE.

Everything else is a path of self-destruction for her. All their entitlement is nothing but a scam. Yet we are so blinded to see the obvios truth. My writing is not to insult women, or put them down… Its the way that will make her most happy and bring fullfilment!

Embrace the truth…

AMEN

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“Everything else is a path of self-destruction for her. All their entitlement is nothing but a scam.”

You are a buffoon, a cartoon of a man, a caricature of a human being.

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“You’re wildly grabbing for straws. The answer my cupcake lies between your legs. Your ultimate purpose for existence on this great green Earth is to BREED, to TIT FEED and to SERVICE thy patriarchal master.”

Actually, the purpose for men and women is lead whatever lives they desire, so long as it lawful and adheres to established norms.

Now, why don’t you offer us the wisdom of your own life by having your wife (assuming you are married) tell the viewing audience how she much enjoys serving you.
Actual video evidence directly from her. Demonstrate your kingly state of affairs.

Time to put up or shut up. I mean, are you truly a boss here?

“Read this again, once, twice thrice, until tears well up. Then in your mind’s eye, place your tiny precious foot into the patriarch’s warm shoe and then stand with a deeep breath, raise your arms and extholl with all your spirit “HAIL THE PATRIARCHY!!” The age of MAN rumbles on the horizon. Open ye heart and ye legs for HIM!!”

The more that you speak in this manner, the more likely you are trolling. It is probable that your wife wears the pants in your family, and the only way to get a word edgewise is to release your frustration.

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I can understand the view you are coming from.
We are all brainwashed into thinking that women will be more happy when they are ‘free’ and can live the life how they want. But its all a fraud, we are totally blinded.

A women will not be happy by living the ‘bright’ life. Im convinced that they are all bitter inside. They are not living and doing what they are created for.
Her purpose is to serve a man and give him her feminine beauty and energy, in submission. And to give birth and raise children. To serve man and family. Thats what will make her truly happy… of course asuming that her man loves her.

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“I can understand the view you are coming from. We are all brainwashed into thinking that women will be more happy when they are ‘free’ and can live the life how they want. But its all a fraud, we are totally blinded.”

Men have the liberty to lead their own lives. They do not need to be virtue signaled to death by you claiming that they have been “brainwashed” or are “blind”, that you and others actually hold the truths.

“A women will not be happy by living the ‘bright’ life. Im convinced that they are all bitter inside.”

Then you have serious psychological issues if you truly believe ALL females are bitter.

“Her purpose is to serve a man and give him her feminine beauty and energy, in submission. And to give birth and raise children. To serve man and family.”

The purpose for a man and a woman, for citizens of our great nation, is to make their own decisions, within the bounds of the law and social norms, that afford them happiness. What you are advocating is totalitarian patriarchy, which has been dead for quite some time. Best luck in your endeavors to peacefully reinstitute it on our society. Thankfully, you have neither the guile nor gumption to use physical force in this matter, as you impotent.

“Thats what will make her truly happy… of course asuming that her man loves her.”

That’s what will make YOU happy.

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Even if we have big differences… I agree with you with this thing: I appreciate it too that we live in a democratic part of the world, with freedom, where everybody has freedom how to live their life. This is very great! Im against totalitarian states!

However, with freedom comes responsibility. And I see people, especially women using this freedom in a total wrong way. I wanted to show the proper path…. Not call for a totaliritian system. Its better anyway when somebody chooses to live a certain lifestyle freely, instead of being pushed into it.

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“And I see people, especially women using this freedom in a total wrong way. I wanted to show the proper path….”

Basically, you are promoting your own opinions on the matter.

“Its better anyway when somebody chooses to live a certain lifestyle freely, instead of being pushed into it.”

Exactly. You’re learning, sport.

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Roosh, you dont fucking get it.this is immigration,borders ,demographics,cultural dilution.i dont dont give a fuck if they are not pure trads

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Women’s liberation enables women to live like sluts and abort their babies, which is why demographics are so shit to the point where third world immigrants are brought in to fill the gap.

The fact that Tara McCarthy condemned people for calling this out just further proves she enjoys the privilege of being an attention whore.

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Blaming tara mcarthy for calling out calling out taboo topics(counter migration to europe) and she’s pro family(she’s always been critique of woman lib).is the biggest waste of energy ever.

Quit making excuse for attacking a pro euro tribe woman who is against foreign hordes taking over europe.

This is the stuggle of a lifetime and you are whining like a bitch.most young girls would just chat about make up.

She should be commended.the demographics of our societies are not her fault.Look at Japan-shit fertility zero migration.that prooves the issue is migration/border issue first.watch black pigeon on gdp per capita .you saying”immigrabt brought to fill the gap” makes you sound like one of tbose “no borders” crowd.

You are being anti europe,anti european,anti white.

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Tara brings nothing new to the table besides her looks, shes just regurgitating basic bitch talking points said by far more intelligent men from years ago.

I’m only against the laws that take authority away from men in marriage, and I’m especially against the men who enable this while whiteknighting women.

Its funny you mention Japan having shit fertility while having closed borders. Why do you think they’re like that? Its because their equivalent to women’s liberation has successfully allowed women to shirk their traditional roles in favor of being a career oriented slut.

I never said I was for open borders, you seem to have poor reading comprehension. The elites lower white fertility rates by instituting feminist laws to help “liberate” women while taking all the authority away from men, its no coincidence why patriarchal nations today have high fertility rates. Anyways, once they lower the fertility rates, then they can use it as an excuse to bring in more migrants.

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“shes just regurgitating basic bitch talking points said by far more intelligent men from years ago.”

Dude, no enemies to the right. Get with the program.

“I’m only against the laws that take authority away from men in marriage…”

Well, you are in the minority, Kemosabe. Furthermore, men do have power in a marriage–they have learned to exercise it accordingly. Do you need a primer on how to properly conduct yourself in your own marriage?

“and I’m especially against the men who enable this while whiteknighting women.”

Yeah, well, guys are going to do what they believe is best for themselves, their families, and their nation. Best wishes going “against them”.

“Its funny you mention Japan having shit fertility while having closed borders.”

Hate to break it to you, sport, but peak fertility for Group X or Group Y is low on the totem pole of issues. Now, if it was peak fertility for the human race overall, that would be a different story.

“The elites lower white fertility rates by instituting feminist laws to help “liberate” women while taking all the authority away from men…”

The “elites” are doing no such thing. They are not planning the demise of the white race, nor plotting to take you out in the process. You are hyperventilating. Calm down.

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Shes not an ally to the right, shes just fleecing money because the Alt Right is filled with thirsty men who get excited over a pretty girl who expresses the most modest right leaning opinions.

Men have 0 legal authority in marriage, especially with things like no fault divorce, backed child support, alimony, duluth model, vawa, tender years doctrine, and prenups with exploitative loopholes. You can lift and game all you want, but the woman knows she can fuck you over without a patriarchy keeping her in check. This is why nearly 80% of divorces are initiated by women, and why the rates of marriage keeping plummeting each generation.

Pedestalizing women is actively harmful to guys, in fact its usually the symptom of a society’s downfall. Good to see you value an individuals stupidity more than whats practical for society.

lol wut? Low fertility is the beginning of the end for a nationalist society, because logically there won’t be enough offsprings to sustain it, thus ending the race, the best remedy for this is to legally restore natural gender roles, which is why Arabs and Indians breed like rats today. Otherwise, immigrants are brought in to fill the demographics, which is what we see happening to Europe and America today. You’re moving the goalpost by measuring it on a global scale.

So…I’m just imagining that most judges in the west are leftist/globalist ideologues who actively seek to harm traditional western values to the point of overruling any decisions made by the rightwing president that opposes their goals? Or am I further imagining the tech giants in Silicon Valley who use critical theory to subvert and dominate social media and various utility sources in order to censor any opposition off the net? Yeah, I wonder how you can see me hyperventilating with your head so deep in the sand.

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“Shes not an ally to the right, shes just fleecing money because the Alt Right is filled with thirsty men who get excited over a pretty girl who expresses the most modest right leaning opinions.”

She is not fleecing anyone. If a man wants to financially support her cause, that is his liberty. It has nothing to do with men being “thirsty”, and everything to do with having similar beliefs.

“Men have 0 legal authority in marriage, especially with things like no fault divorce, backed child support, alimony, duluth model, vawa, tender years doctrine, and prenups with exploitative loopholes.”

95% of all divorces are settled before they go to court amicably. In these instance, men decidedly have legal power as to what are the terms and conditions.

“You can lift and game all you want, but the woman knows she can fuck you over without a patriarchy keeping her in check.”

The person who needs to be kept in check is you. You are making authoritarian demands here. In the end, men and women live their own lives, which observably does not directly impact how you conduct your own affairs.

“Pedestalizing women is actively harmful to guys, in fact its usually the symptom of a society’s downfall. Good to see you value an individuals stupidity more than whats practical for society.”

There is no putting women on pedestals. There is adoration and respect by women toward men, and men toward women. The practical aspect of society is one who exercises their liberty as how they see fit, provided it does not purposely break the law. What I am valuing is a person’s freedom of association. You can say that I am stupid or that men are stupid because we do not think or act the way you want us to. That is classic virtue signaling.

“Low fertility is the beginning of the end for a nationalist society, because logically there won’t be enough offsprings to sustain it, thus ending the race, the best remedy for this is to legally restore natural gender roles, which is why Arabs and Indians breed like rats today.”

You meant to say that low fertility for the human race is a major cause for concern for a sustainable world. Regarding those “natural gender roles”, those are constructs, an ancient relic. Poof, they have disappeared. Men and women are more than capable of deciding for themselves in their relationship how they will earn money and care for children.

“So…I’m just imagining that most judges in the west are leftist/globalist ideologues who actively seek to harm traditional western values to the point of overruling any decisions made by the rightwing president that opposes their goals?”

Americans generally refer to their own traditions rather than “western values”. You seem lost here.

“Or am I further imagining the tech giants in Silicon Valley who use critical theory to subvert and dominate social media and various utility sources in order to censor any opposition off the net?”

They can try to censor all they want. Today people are building Alt Tech. See Vox Day regarding his efforts. So this notion that people are unable to speak their minds is false. Of course, there are consequences when one exercises this liberty, but there is nothing free about free speech.

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Most of her comments are guys thirsting after her. If you talk to enough Alt Right guys, particularly the Pagans, they say its “manlier” to worship a woman. Men giving her money is just their stupidy, which shes taking advantage of. There are far more intelligent channels like No White Guilt or Millenial Woes who admittedly get less views, if they were pretty girls, their views would skyrocket because sex sells.

Men have no power against alimony, backed child support, and exploitative prenups. There are even common law marriages where men are divorce raped before even marrying the chick. I recommend looking into Misandry Today’s channel on Youtube, hes a divorce lawyer with over 10 years of experience, he will enlighten you more.

Men don’t need to be kept in check, statistically speaking according to the CDC, men are far more likely to remain monogamous even after sleeping with lots of partners than women are. Women are around 50% likely to cheat even with just a kill count of 10 or more partners, you add this with no fault divorce and it starts to make sense why adultery was once punishable by law.

I value women in terms of fulfilling their natural gender roles of birthing and nurturing small children. Statistically its what makes them happier, and there is no practical value into reducing women into weaker and less capable versions of men whether its to meet a gender quota or if its to give female validation to thirsty men. In our current egalitarian society in the west with our failing demographics, women don’t really have any purpose besides being cum rags. If women embrace that laws that push men away from marriage, then something will have to fill in the falling demographics(migrants), babies aren’t just grown on a farm.

Lol the “social contruct” card? Men have a dominance instinct, and women have hypergamy. Men gain purpose through building and leading, you’ve seen this all throughout history with every major society/empire being built and lead from the ground up by men. Female hypergamy is a woman’s maternal instincts driving her to seek out strong males with high resources in order for her children to be safe, this is why women only went after alpha males in pre civ eras or submitted as concubines/brides to any empire that conquered and defeated their tribe, a woman’s entire biological purpose is to secure herself and her children. If it really was just a social construct, then why did matriarchal societies always become endangered like the Bonobos today? Why are women just physically designed more for bearing/nursing children instead of fighting and building? Why do women act more on emotion than logic? Why do women pursue Stem and trade careers far less than men do today?

America was founded by Christians and deists, a large portion of the immigrants that founded the land were Anglo Protestants. These were the original predominant values that influenced the culture until Frankfurt ideologies like critical theory and feminism started be introduced in the early 20th century.

Net Neutrality getting banned could potentially be a good step for competitors to create a safe space(no pun intended) for the alt tech. However, I don’t see a bright future for the net when ISPs can force sites into the dark web like they did with the Daily Stormer. If the consequence for free speech is censorship, the its no longer free speech, its really that simple.

Anyways, I’m not going to Gish Gallop with you any longer. In fact I want to be wrong, so explain to me the practical and long term benefits of a country without patriarchal values, and why men are irrational for avoiding marriage today. Don’t just give me the “muh social constructs” bullshit, show me a place today that fits your ideal society and why it works.

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“Most of her comments are guys thirsting after her.”

No, they are guys who agree with her positions. Big difference here.

“Men have no power against alimony, backed child support, and exploitative prenups.”

If 95% of all divorces do not go to court, and deals have been made where men are satisfied with the results, then indeed men have power here.

“Men don’t need to be kept in check, statistically speaking according to the CDC, men are far more likely to remain monogamous even after sleeping with lots of partners than women are.”

No, that is other than accurate.

“I value women in terms of fulfilling their natural gender roles of birthing and nurturing small children.”

Right, YOU. Others would agree with you. Which is your opinion on the matter.

“Statistically its what makes them happier…”

No. What makes a woman happy differs.

“Lol the “social contruct” card? Men have a dominance instinct, and women have hypergamy.”

Actually, people have a dominance instinct and want to “marry up”.

“this is why women only went after alpha males in pre civ eras or submitted as concubines/brides to any empire that conquered and defeated their tribe…:

Actually, in a number of societies had been involved in pre-arrange marriages between families. Women did not go after “alpha males”, just men that their fathers believed would be a solid provider. But times change.

“If it really was just a social construct, then why did matriarchal societies always become endangered like the Bonobos today?”

Matriarchal societies are also a social construct. Do you even understand what the term means?

“Why are women just physically designed more for bearing/nursing children instead of fighting and building?”

No, women can fight and build.

“America was founded by Christians and deists, a large portion of the immigrants that founded the land were Anglo Protestants.”

Actually, America was founded by many European groups from a wide range of faiths.

“These were the original predominant values that influenced the culture until Frankfurt ideologies like critical theory and feminism started be introduced in the early 20th century.”

Not “Frankfurt ideologies”, but simply ideologies.

“Anyways, I’m not going to Gish Gallop with you any longer. In fact I want to be wrong, so explain to me the practical and long term benefits of a country without patriarchal values, and why men are irrational for avoiding marriage today.”

You are wrong. It is self-evident. Deal with it rather than avoid it.

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“No, they are guys who agree with her positions. Big difference here.”

That and her looks help, just read her thirsty comments on YT or Patreon, its pure findom.

“If 95% of all divorces do not go to court, and deals have been made
where men are satisfied with the results, then indeed men have power
here.”

95% of cases are settled before trial, this is usually because going to court takes long and costs more lawyer fees. This doesn’t negate what I say, alimony and backed child support are still required by law to be payed, an uncontested divorce just settles on this without the hassle of court.

“No, that is other than accurate.”

Wrong: https://gyazo.com/97226f195e800c80fd2e36b19039b4c4

“Right, YOU. Others would agree with you. Which is your opinion on the matter.”

Nope, what men and women value each other on is entirely rooted in procreation. Men like big tits and asses because it shows that a woman can bear and nurse children easier. Women are attracted to men with high resources because they can provide better for a family. You see this very acutely in the animal kingdom, for example the male bower bird gives the female gifts of food and shelter to prove its worth as a provider.

“No. What makes a woman happy differs.”

Wrong: https://gyazo.com/a385474ff02740a563a1e8c78146cefc
Also worth noting that Scandinavian countries which have super low marriage and birth rates among the native population, have some of the highest rates of depression: https://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/worlds-happiest-countries-take-most-antidepressants

“Actually, people have a dominance instinct and want to “marry up”.”

Huh?

“Actually, in a number of societies had been involved in pre-arrange
marriages between families. Women did not go after “alpha males”, just
men that their fathers believed would be a solid provider. But times
change.”

You’re not wrong here, but you’re talking about a patriarchal civilization. When I said alpha, I was referring to the jungle law, which is pre-civilization. With the jungle law, women were free to fuck the absolute best quality guys, which resulted in the top alphas having harems. You kind of see this today with women using social media to weed out unworthy guys in order to get to the top alpha.

“Matriarchal societies are also a social construct. Do you even understand what the term means?”

Yes: “Matriarchy is a social system in which females (most notably in mammals)
hold the primary power positions in roles of political leadership,
moral authority, social privilege and control of property at the
specific exclusion of men”. These have existed with humans, and they exist today with Bonobos, which progressives often point to as a shining example of how we should live, despite the fact that they’re endangered and could easily be killed by a pack of chimps or orangutans.

“No, women can fight and build.”

The exception proves the rule, but on average women lack the strength to fight and build as good as men. The US military literally had to lower the intensity of the training just for the female recruits.

“Actually, America was founded by many European groups from a wide range of faiths.”

Predominantly various Christian denominations. Even Atheists like Hitchens admit that Christian values were an influence on American culture.

“Not “Frankfurt ideologies”, but simply ideologies.”

Ideologies founded by the Frankfurt School with the sole purpose of undermining traditional values. It was the ideology that set the Nazis over the edge.

“You are wrong. It is self-evident. Deal with it rather than avoid it.”

Explain.

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“This doesn’t negate what I say, alimony and backed child support are still required by law to be payed, an uncontested divorce just settles on this without the hassle of court.”

Which was negotiated by men, indicating they have power. Try again.

“https://gyazo.com/97226f195…”

Congratulations, it’s two bar graphs from 1995. Anything more current?

“Also worth noting that Scandinavian countries which have super low marriage and birth rates among the native population, have some of the highest rates of depression”

Depression caused by a host factors, which MAY include low marriage and birth rates. Regardless, in 2017 Norway, Denmark, and Sweden were in the Top 10 for Ranking Of Happiest Countries. Must be doing something right.

“With the jungle law, women were free to fuck the absolute best quality guys, which resulted in the top alphas having harems.”

You’re going to have offer specific evidence here rather than make it appear that you understand anthropology.
Because the b.s. meter is ringing something fierce on your part.

“Ideologies founded by the Frankfurt School with the sole purpose of undermining traditional values.”

Fake News Story.

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“Which was negotiated by men, indicating they have power. Try again.”

Nice semantics game. I’m specifically talking about the men who are victim to these laws, buts nice to know you both acknowledge elitist men, while at the same time saying men in positions of power is a figment of my imagination.

“Congratulations, it’s two bar graphs from 1995. Anything more current?”

You cant be this retarded.

“Depression caused by a host factors, which MAY include low marriage and
birth rates. Regardless, in 2017 Norway, Denmark, and Sweden were in
the Top 10 for Ranking Of Happiest Countries. Must be doing something
right.”

Single women in their 30s and above have higher rates of depression, as evident with the country with the highest rate of anti depressant consumption and low marriage/fertility rate among the native population. Also its pretty clear that the “happiness” is artificially sustained. FYI: if you see studies saying the marriage and fertility rate is high, make sure its not talking about the hordes of third world migrants.

“You’re going to have offer specific evidence here rather than make it appear that you understand anthropology.”

Fair enough. Listen to a real anthropologist explain it better than I: https://relampagofurioso.com/2016/05/30/jd-unwin-detailed-how-feminism-would-destroy-culture-30-years-before-womens-lib/

“Fake News Story.”

Nope: http://www.iep.utm.edu/frankfur/

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“I’m specifically talking about the men who are victim to these laws…”

Sure, some men are “victims” when it comes to divorce, but not in the great numbers you seemingly believe in.

“Single women in their 30s and above have higher rates of depression…”

Due to a host of factors, which may include a desire to have children not being fulfilled.

“Also its pretty clear that the “happiness” is artificially sustained.”

For some people.

“Listen to a real anthropologist explain it better than I…”

Irwin wrote “Restraints on sexuality, and especially female sexuality are the foundation of civilized society.” Now, you do realize that these restrictions also include men, most notably the PUA community. Roosh and Roissy would be hunted down like wild boars and strung up for their advocation of “pumping and dumping”. See, they have perpetually lacked any self-restraint for their rutting nature. They, along with their acolytes, want to be able to bang sluts but also have women be chaste, and shame them along the way. It’s hypocrisy at its finest–all they have to do is say “No, I will not have sex with you unless we are married”. There would be no need for these “restraints”, since PUA’s especially would shackle themselves from hook-ups. See, there is absolute culpability on men’s part to not get sucked into having premarital sex, especially considering it is sinful and directly opposes God.

But it also raises an dilemma–when you have limitations on freedom in a society, like sexuality, it leads to increased levels of deviance. That is why Irwin noted that men in those ancient societies as they became wealthy and powerful sought to loosen those restrictions to try to horde the men themselves. However, with those looser standards came competition among men for the “prime” females, which in part led to hardier offspring.

You do also realize that Irwin wrote that equality between women and men is necessary for absolute monogamy, right?

The Fake News Story is the power and scope of the Frankfort School and “cultural marxism”. You have been thoroughly duped.

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“Sure, some men are “victims” when it comes to divorce, but not in the great numbers you seemingly believe in.”

More than 60% of custody battles are won by women and almost 100% of alimony payers are men, I could go on but you’d rather not listen since only women can be victims apparently.

“Due to a host of factors, which may include a desire to have children not being fulfilled.”

Don’t see how this disproves anything. I just said single childless women have higher rates of depression, which is observably true.

“For some people.”

Little more than some when its the country with the highest consumption of anti depressants lol.

First Paragraph: The point of the article and what many PUAs like Roosh have made is that when you sexually liberate women, they have promiscuous sex left and right with the top alpha men. Since monogamy is unsustainable in this type of society, the only thing men can do is increase their sexual market value in order to meet a desirable standard of women to attain sex. Guys like Roosh know they have no legal authority to change things back to a patriarchy, so they just have fun with that they can. I reject the pickup culture for religious reasons, but just because there are men that do it, that doesn’t make it right, its equally terrible when both genders do it because its proven throughout history to not work for society in the long run. The only one to blame for the mess is the men who liberated the women.

Second paragraph: *facepalm* you’re completely working backwards, traditional values prohibit deviancy, which is why the rich elite are degenerate since they have an easier time avoiding the law(e.g pedos like Kevin Spacey). If we abolish traditional societal structures and revert back to the jungle law, then society falls apart, because fertility rates will drop since all the women will join the harems of the top Alphas, and all the other unlawful behavior like murder will go unchecked. Civilization and traditional values is why we are the only living beings who made it as far as the moon.

Your logic is basically the same as saying a parent who disciplines their child is bad because the child might try to sneak his way around punishments. If you let the kid do whatever, then don’t be surprised when he grows up to be a burnout.

“The Fake News Story is the power and scope of the Frankfort School and “cultural marxism”. You have been thoroughly duped.”

Again explain, chanting “fake news” like its a magic spell is not an argument.

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“More than 60% of custody battles are won by women and almost 100% of alimony payers are men, I could go on but you’d rather not listen since only women can be victims apparently.”

Actually, 45% of custody battles are won by women for primary custody, and in 80% of those cases the man chose NOT to legally contest it.

Moreover, more than half, 56 percent, of divorce lawyers across the United States have seen an increase in mothers paying child support in the last three years and 47 percent have noted a hike in the number of women paying alimony, according to the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers. So your “100%” figure is patently false.

“The point of the article and what many PUAs like Roosh have made is that when you sexually liberate women, they have promiscuous sex left and right with the top alpha men”

No, when men and women are sexually liberated, they have sex with whomever they want. Furthermore, the social-sexual hierarchy is arbitrary and capricious in nature.

“Since monogamy is unsustainable in this type of society, the only thing men can do is increase their sexual market value in order to meet a desirable standard of women to attain sex.”

In reality, monogamy is sustainable. It is Roosh and Roissy who ruin the system by insisting that men “pump and dump”. All men have to do is say “No” to loose women, to curb their own rutting instinct. Roosh and Roissy are perpetual adolescents.

“I reject the pickup culture for religious reasons…”

Yet you seek their advice and condone their behavior by visiting their site.

“The only one to blame for the mess is the men who liberated the women.”

Then you reject the liberty of men to make their own decisions, which makes you a fascist.

“If we abolish traditional societal structures and revert back to the jungle law, then society falls apart, because fertility rates will drop since all the women will join the harems of the top Alphas, and all the other unlawful behavior like murder will go unchecked.”

Except there is no abolishing traditional societal structures, just them changing with the times. And there is not “jungle law”, but the rule of law and Constitutional law. And there are not women joining harems of alphas–it is your imagination running wild yet again.

“Your logic is basically the same as saying a parent who disciplines their child is bad because the child might try to sneak his way around punishments.”

My logic is that a parent instills discipline as well as disciplines their children in their home how they see fit. Once their child turns 18, they are legally an adult, and will make their own decisions. What you want is for parents, chiefly fathers, to have perpetual ownership and control of their children. That doesn’t work that way.

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“More than 60% of custody battles are won by women and almost 100% of alimony payers are men, I could go on but you’d rather not listen since only women can be victims apparently.”

Actually, out of that 60%, 85% of men do not legally contest those terms. Furthermore, within the past decade, the number of women paying alimony to men has quadrupled, and the number of men paying women alimony has declined by 35%, so your “almost 100%” claim is patently false.

“The point of the article and what many PUAs like Roosh have made is that when you sexually liberate women, they have promiscuous sex left and right with the top alpha men.”

First, men employed their liberty to “sexually liberate” women. If you oppose that freedom, you are a fascist.

Second, Roosh and Roissy have had the duty to curb their rutting instincts and simply say “No” to aggressively sexual females. Instead, they choose to “pump and dump”.

“Since monogamy is unsustainable in this type of society, the only thing men can do is increase their sexual market value in order to meet a desirable standard of women to attain sex.”

Of course monogamy is sustainable, it’s the PUA community that keeps it off balance.

“If we abolish traditional societal structures and revert back to the jungle law, then society falls apart, because fertility rates will drop since all the women will join the harems of the top Alphas, and all the other unlawful behavior like murder will go unchecked. Civilization and traditional values is why we are the only living beings who made it as far as the moon.”

First, traditional societal structures haven’t been “abolished”, they have simply changed.

Second, we don’t have “jungle law”, we have the rule of law and Constitutional law.

Third, women aren’t becoming part of a harem for top alphas. That is a figment of your imagination.

Fourth, the social-sexual hierarchy is arbitrary and capricious in nature.

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“Actually, out of that 60%, 85% of men do not legally contest those
terms. Furthermore, within the past decade, the number of women paying
alimony to men has quadrupled, and the number of men paying women
alimony has declined by 35%, so your “almost 100%” claim is patently
false.”

85% of men in that 60% got fucked, thats my point. Also wrong, reportedly only 3% of alimony recipients in America are men. The only reason the number of male alimony payers go down is because divorce goes down because less people are getting married.

“First, men employed their liberty to “sexually liberate” women. If you oppose that freedom, you are a fascist.”

Ad hominem, not even a good one at that because Fascism is just the nationalist state control of corporations. Calling me a “fascist” doesn’t disprove the detrimental symptoms of sexual liberation.

“Second, Roosh and Roissy have had the duty to curb their rutting
instincts and simply say “No” to aggressively sexual females. Instead,
they choose to “pump and dump”.

Women are hypergamous by nature, if this isn’t curbed then they just keep pursuing the next best guy they can find. Roosh realizes even as an alpha top dog its not possible by law to keep a woman down, so he might as well have fun.

“Of course monogamy is sustainable, it’s the PUA community that keeps it off balance.”

No it was multiple generations of feminist laws being passed by ideologue judges such as sexual liberation and no fault divorce. Don’t believe me? Go look at how much divorce percentages rose and marriage rates dropped ever since these laws passed.

“First, traditional societal structures haven’t been “abolished”, they have simply changed.”

Aka abolished, you even called me “fascist” for wanting traditional laws back.

“Second, we don’t have “jungle law”, we have the rule of law and Constitutional law.”

I was only talking about courtship, which parallels jungle law, as evident with the 80/20 rule and the decreasing amounts of sex millennial have. Mentioning the rule of law and the constitution is completely asinine.

“Fourth, the social-sexual hierarchy is arbitrary and capricious in nature.”

Nope its very observable. Sexual desires are tied to our procreative instincts. Men like curvy(not fat) and pretty women because they show signs of fertility and being able to nurse/bear children. Women like athletic men with high resources because they pass on good genes to the kids, and they can provide for a family. Women with low fertility and men with low resources are not desirable for procreation, so they seek out the best they can from the scraps.

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“85% of men in that 60% got fucked, thats my point.”

No, that meant 85% chose not to go to court to contest placement. Which could mean they didn’t care, or didn’t want to fight it, or we’re satisfied with the decision.

“Calling me a “fascist” doesn’t disprove the detrimental symptoms of sexual liberation.”

Sexual liberation is an outcome of liberty, in particular men’s freedom. By demanding that sexual liberation be limited or prohibited by men, you are a Fascist. Not an ad hominem attack at all, just the plain truth.

“Women are hypergamous by nature, if this isn’t curbed then they just keep pursuing the next best guy they can find.”

Actually, men and women are hypergamous by nature.

“Roosh realizes even as an alpha top dog its not possible by law to keep a woman down, so he might as well have fun.”

It has to do with personal conduct and custom. Roosh and Roissy chose NOT to curb their recognized sexual deviancy–they have the power to say NO to women advances. They have the power to shame women for how they act and dress. So by having “fun”, Roosh and Roissy are actually contributing to society’s moral degeneracy.

It’s like you’re saying that when a parent tries to discipline their child, and the child says “I have no control over my behavior because everyone else is doing it”, then the father or mother says “OK, there is no consequence”.

Clearly Roosh and Roissy lack impulse control, which is due to their genetic inferiority.

“No it was multiple generations of feminist laws being passed by ideologue judges such as sexual liberation and no fault divorce.”

Judges don’t pass laws, they interpret them. And the laws were passed by men who believed in ensuring that American citizenship would be consistent.

“I was only talking about courtship, which parallels jungle law, as evident with the 80/20 rule and the decreasing amounts of sex millennial have.”

Courtship does not parallel jungle law. And this “80/20 rule” is more Fake News.

As far as millennials having decreasing amounts of sex, that is their choice. How does it impact you directly?

‘Women with low fertility and men with low resources are not desirable for procreation, so they seek out the best they can from the scraps.”

If people today still thought of such matters in strictly those terms. Instead, people look at things much more holistically and openly. Life is not about exclusively procreation, but making the most of what the world has to offer.

Speaking of procreation, rather than bloviate on this blog, you really should be figuring out how you are going to sire six or more white offspring.

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“No, that meant 85% chose not to go to court to contest placement. Which
could mean they didn’t care, or didn’t want to fight it, or we’re
satisfied with the decision.”

Because the tender years doctrine ensures they will most likely lose, so they accept their fate rather than waste insane amounts of money on lawyer fees.

“Sexual liberation is an outcome of liberty, in particular men’s freedom.
By demanding that sexual liberation be limited or prohibited by men,
you are a Fascist. Not an ad hominem attack at all, just the plain
truth.”

Sexual liberation is observably destructive in the long run of society, as evident with the decreasing rates of sex, birth, and marriage with each succeeding generation after sexual liberation. If I’m a “fascist” for this, then I guess I’d rather be labelled with people who got it right.

“Actually, men and women are hypergamous by nature.”

Yeah, not in the same way. The reason why women have far greater amounts of sex partners is because men exclusively value physical beauty and fertility. What a redundant statement, did you know men and women have different genitalia as well?

“It has to do with personal conduct and custom. Roosh and Roissy chose
NOT to curb their recognized sexual deviancy–they have the power to say
NO to women advances. They have the power to shame women for how they
act and dress. So by having “fun”, Roosh and Roissy are actually
contributing to society’s moral degeneracy.”

Women don’t come to Roosh and Roissy, the latter go out of their way to pick them up. Anyways, in a democracy where women will most likely vote against patriarchal laws, sexual liberation will remain, so guys like Roosh will have no choice but to just take advantage of unchecked and uncivilized women if they want intimacy.

“It’s like you’re saying that when a parent tries to discipline their
child, and the child says “I have no control over my behavior because
everyone else is doing it”, then the father or mother says “OK, there is
no consequence”.”

Kind of a muddy analogy but I’ll work with it. This scenario would apply more if hypothetically it was made illegal for parents to discipline their children, so they would just have to accept their children being underachieving losers, but at least they can make some fun memories together.

“Judges don’t pass laws, they interpret them. And the laws were passed
by men who believed in ensuring that American citizenship would be
consistent.”

They still allow these laws to remain, even though theyre observably detrimental to marriage and fertility rates. You’re just being pedantic now.

“Courtship does not parallel jungle law. And this “80/20 rule” is more Fake News.”

Modern day courtship definitely does. The reason why millennials are having less sex is because women are filtering out most men in favor of the top alphas, this was the same as the jungle law which I showed you earlier from an Anthropologist’s studies. You already agreed hypergamy is a thing, but you keep tripping over the effects of unchecked hypergamy, so you only acknowledge nature unless it disagrees with you.

“As far as millennials having decreasing amounts of sex, that is their choice. How does it impact you directly?”

The argument isn’t about me personally. I’m just stating the fact that sexual liberation lead to low fertility and marriage rates. You really think a large portion of men are eunuchs?

“If people today still thought of such matters in strictly those
terms. Instead, people look at things much more holistically and
openly. Life is not about exclusively procreation, but making the most
of what the world has to offer.”

Procreation is a necessity for survival just like food or shelter is. The fact that most people adopt your soft nihilism is precisely the reason why the west is demographically being colonized by third world immigrants who value procreation.

“Speaking of procreation, rather than bloviate on this blog, you really
should be figuring out how you are going to sire six or more white
offspring.”

Again, another circumstantial ad hominem.

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LOL when it comes to women then she’s all for sexual liberation and “how does it impact you personally”, and “life is not about exclusively procreation, but making the most of what the world has to offer”.

But she’s all “sexual deviants, society’s moral degeneracy”, and “how many white offspring you’re siring” when it comes to men doing the same thing.

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lololol projection at its finest.

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“Because the tender years doctrine ensures they will most likely lose, so they accept their fate rather than waste insane amounts of money on lawyer fees.”

More b.s. on your part. It is not about men accepting their fate, it is about men 1) not wanting to have primary custody, 2) agreeing to share custody, or 3) choosing not to be involved (sadly) in the lives of their children.

“The reason why women have far greater amounts of sex partners is because men exclusively value physical beauty and fertility.”

Patently false. Men and women value physical beauty and fertility, as evident by their efforts to attract one another for courtship and marriage. Now you are grasping for straws here. Please stop, you are just being foolish now.

“Sexual liberation is observably destructive in the long run of society, as evident with the decreasing rates of sex, birth, and marriage with each succeeding generation after sexual liberation.”

There are other factors at play as to why there are declining birth rates for certain groups, as to why divorce occurs more frequently, and why some men and women have less sex. Sexual liberation may be one such cause, but it is NOT the exclusive or primary one.

“They still allow these laws to remain, even though theyre observably detrimental to marriage and fertility rates.”

Indeed, as these laws are not unconstitutional; they represent the consent of the people by which they supportive. That is liberty in action.

“Women don’t come to Roosh and Roissy, the latter go out of their way to pick them up.”

Regardless, Roosh and Roissy chose to “pump and dump”, rather than man up and seek a meaningful relationship. All they have to do is curb their rutting instinct. All they have to do is to show restraint. They have the duty to restore patriarchy.

“Anyways, in a democracy where women will most likely vote against patriarchal laws…”

Which is their liberty.

“…sexual liberation will remain, so guys like Roosh will have no choice but to just take advantage of unchecked and uncivilized women if they want intimacy.”

First, the women are not “unchecked and uncivilized”. Stop making overblown generalizations, you are embarrassing yourself. Second, Roosh and Roissy do not want intimacy, they want sex. Intimacy, being a steady, long-term, meaningful relationship. Third, all Roosh and Roissy have to do is lead by example–no sex until marriage. They have the choice NOT to get caught up in those women who are “easy”. Roosh and Roissy are degenerates. Why you promote their lifestyle and defend them, you are advocating the destruction of Western Civilization.

“Procreation is a necessity for survival just like food or shelter is. The fact that most people adopt your soft nihilism is precisely the reason why the west is demographically being colonized by third world immigrants who value procreation.”

Of course procreation is important. For the human race. You are absolutely fixated on white birth rates as being the primary function for white people…even though you have not contributed yourself. Focus more on your own personal life rather than forcing your ideal society on other people.

“The argument isn’t about me personally. I’m just stating the fact that sexual liberation lead to low fertility and marriage rates.”

Of course it is about you. Solipsism at its finest.

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“Because the tender years doctrine…”

More b.s. on your part.

“Sexual liberation is observably destructive in the long run of society, as evident with the decreasing rates of sex, birth, and marriage with each succeeding generation after sexual liberation.”

There are number of factors as to why there whites have declining rates of sex, birth, and marriage. Sexual liberation is one such cause, but not the major one. Certainly with your condition–single, not married, no white children–you are contributing to the problem, along with Roissy and Roosh.

“The reason why women have far greater amounts of sex partners is because men exclusively value physical beauty and fertility.”

No, men and women each value physical beauty and fertility, as evident when they date and marry. You really have no clue how life currently operates.

“Women don’t come to Roosh and Roissy, the latter go out of their way to pick them up.

To pump and dump them, indeed. So no wonder some women are jaded. Roosh and Roissy, rather than trying to save Western Civilization, contribute to its decline. All they have to do is curb their rutting instinct and shame women when they are sluts. Instead, they give advice that leads to degenerative behavior. Why you support their vices is beyond my level of comprehension. You are no Christian.

“so guys like Roosh will have no choice but to just take advantage of unchecked and uncivilized women if they want intimacy.”

Roosh and Roissy do not want intimacy, which is a long-term relationship with only one woman, which would lead to offspring. Rather, they seek to sate their own sexual deviant appetites.

“They still allow these laws to remain, even though theyre observably detrimental to marriage and fertility rates.”

The laws remain because Americans generally support them and because they are other than detrimental to marriage and fertility rates. You really need to get married and have your own kids in order to be more of an authority on this matter.

“Modern day courtship definitely does. The reason why millennials are having less sex is because women are filtering out most men in favor of the top alphas.”

In reality, millennials are having less sex for their own personal reasons, and not because women are favoring the top alphas.

“The fact that most people adopt your soft nihilism is precisely the reason why the west is demographically being colonized by third world immigrants who value procreation.”

In reality, people want to live their own lives and value procreation, just not as exclusively as a value as yourself, which is interesting since you have no children.

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“More b.s. on your part.”

Explain.

“There are number of factors as to why there whites have declining rates
of sex, birth, and marriage. Sexual liberation is one such cause, but
not the major one. Certainly with your condition–single, not married,
no white children–you are contributing to the problem, along with
Roissy and Roosh.”

Very convenient considering that before the liberation, the rates were at an all time high. Communities like the Amish or Islamic countries have a super low divorce rate for a reason.

“No, men and women each value physical beauty and fertility, as evident
when they date and marry. You really have no clue how life currently
operates.”

Strawman, I already stated above women appreciate physical beauty of men. The only difference is women value men’s ability to provide resources a lot more, while men only care about physical beauty and fertility.

“To pump and dump them, indeed. So no wonder some women are jaded.
Roosh and Roissy, rather than trying to save Western Civilization,
contribute to its decline. All they have to do is curb their rutting
instinct and shame women when they are sluts. Instead, they give advice
that leads to degenerative behavior. Why you support their vices is
beyond my level of comprehension. You are no Christian.”

So its contributing to the decline when men do it, but its okay when women do it because “muh liberty”? Very consistent. I specifically said above that I reject indulging in hookups because I’m religious, can you even read?

“Roosh and Roissy do not want intimacy, which is a long-term relationship
with only one woman, which would lead to offspring. Rather, they seek
to sate their own sexual deviant appetites.”

More projection lol, so its only bad when men do it? What alternative do they have when they have 0 legal authority over their wives in a potential marriage or to change any of the laws back to a patriarchy where they wouldn’t have to do pump n dumps?

“The laws remain because Americans generally support them and because
they are other than detrimental to marriage and fertility rates. You
really need to get married and have your own kids in order to be more of
an authority on this matter.”

No they remain because in a democracy women vote for their own self interest with things like welfare or child support, even it comes at the expense of men. The lowering rates of marriage, sex, and fertility observably prove why this system doesn’t work which is why the government is opting to bring in third world immigrants to raise the rates, you can’t point to anything else at all no matter how much you Gish Gallop. Also, another circumstantial Ad Hominem for the last part.

“In reality, millennials are having less sex for their own personal reasons, and not because women are favoring the top alphas.”

Convenient that each generation of men after sexual liberation just happens to have less and less sex for “personal” reasons. Why were the rates higher before sexual liberation? Care to elaborate? Because you’re starting to sound like you’re in denial.

“In reality, people want to live their own lives and value procreation,
just not as exclusively as a value as yourself, which is interesting
since you have no children.”

The former is exclusively valued more when the rates of the latter are dropping drastically each generation along with the high number of irresponsible women murdering infants they can’t afford to raise. Again, circumstanial ad hominem for the last part.

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“Very convenient considering that before the liberation, the rates were at an all time high.”

Again, many factors are involved here.

“The only difference is women value men’s ability to provide resources a lot more, while men only care about physical beauty and fertility.”

In reality, men and women value resources and care about physical beauty and fertility on a generally equal basis. Stop lying.

“I specifically said above that I reject indulging in hookups because I’m religious, can you even read?”

You support Roosh and Roissy. Clearly, you are other than religious.

“No they remain because in a democracy women vote for their own self interest with things like welfare or child support, even it comes at the expense of men.”

Men and women look out for their own interests, whether it be individual or group.

“The lowering rates of marriage, sex, and fertility observably prove why this system doesn’t work which is why the government is opting to bring in third world immigrants to raise the rates,”

Again, you are being ridiculous here. Comical.

“Convenient that each generation of men after sexual liberation just happens to have less and less sex…”

Some men, yes. Not all or most.

Are you done here?

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Im done with you man, I’ve already repeated myself a thousand times but you keep taking this in circles by either strawmanning me or calling me wrong without any rebuttals.

Your argument in a nutshell is “youre wrong because there are other reasons I cant name and you’re a fascist!”.

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Are you done peddling outright lies and total falsehoods?

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Dee Dee: “Thats all you can say! Thats all you can say!”

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Bull shit you pro muslim pro refugee anti european horseshit.

How old are are you.Tara talking openly about this stuff ia social sucide for young women (and young men)

“Basic bitch talking points” seriously how fucking old are you.what grown man bashes a young girl and refers to her as a “basic bitch” like an effete homosexual hipster or young rival female.

The content she is saying has to be said,she is doing a great job disseminating extremely tabbo ideas in europe.

If you only care about marriage laws and not about the foreign hordes of terrorists and rapists then you are conpletely out of it and unhinged.
Fertility rates is not an exvuse for open borders because again look at japan.

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Where did I say I was pro muslim and anti european?

Tara threatened to jump back into the feminist camp on twitter after getting called out, as a woman she can easily do that while crying rape due to the gynocentric culture in the west.

What has she said thats intelligent or thought provoking that a thousand other guys haven’t said? Most of her shows is her letting the guest talk for the entire time.

Marriage laws and women’s liberation is primarily the reason why white birth rates are terrible. Women can choose to be career oriented sluts with no social or legal ramifications. This is very observable, just compare American or Scandinavian country’s birthrates to an Indian or Arab country, the former being egalitarian while the latter patriarchal.

I never said open borders is good, I just said low fertility is used an excuse for elites to demographically colonize European nations by bringing in hordes of third world immigrants to fill the gap of missing white offsprings. I want to end this by restoring Patriarchy to the west.

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Tara didnt threatened the go sjw.she said she would have to leave and just be a private indivudual you liar.

Even having a show with intelligent guests is 1000% better than you bitching.
She’s anti immigration thats what she has said.and thats enough.

We end the foreign hordes by closing our borders .ive already explained this.thats the first step.stop making excuses.thats the primary emergency thing we have to do.

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“Marriage laws and women’s liberation is primarily the reason why white birth rates are terrible.”

Hate to break it to you, sport, but it’s not about white birth rates. It’s about living life the way people want. Now, since you’ve been harping about white babies, how many in your brood? You better have at least six or you are a biological failure by your own metric.

“I just said low fertility is used an excuse for elites to demographically colonize European nations by bringing in hordes of third world immigrants to fill the gap of missing white offsprings.”

Which is observably false, as there is no concerted plan by elites to engage in this undertaking. It is a figment of your imagination.

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“Hate to break it to you, sport, but it’s not about white birth rates.
It’s about living life the way people want.”

Except Nihilism is detrimental for the survival of a society. This is why white birth rates are in the toilet and why third world immigrants are replacing us. Nihilism is only good for the short term pleasure of the individual, but it doesn’t benefit a society as a whole in the long run. How do you not make this connection?

“Now, since you’ve been harping about white babies, how many in your
brood? You better have at least six or you are a biological failure by
your own metric.”

Irrelevant circumstantial ad hominem.

“Which is observably false, as there is no concerted plan by elites to
engage in this undertaking. It is a figment of your imagination.”

So people like George Soros or the European Union, who both aggressively push for open borders in white countries are observably non existent? Explain this.

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“Except Nihilism is detrimental for the survival of a society.”

Fortunately, you do not run people’s lives. Besides, you have a sketchy track record as to what constitutes “nihilism” and its detrimental effects.

“Irrelevant circumstantial ad hominem.”

Actually, it is absolutely relevant. You are preaching about the importance of white births. Have you done your part? Do you have six or more white offspring? Prove it, lest you are a biological dead end.

“So people like George Soros or the European Union…”

Haven’t you heard? Soros has been arrested. Vox Day told us. Pay closer attention to the memos sent to you.

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“Fortunately, you do not run people’s lives. Besides, you have a sketchy
track record as to what constitutes “nihilism” and its detrimental
effects.”

Yes, I’m so terrible for wanting people to think of what works for a society instead of what works for themselves. Nihilism is essentially creating your own purpose without God or religion. Since its a decentralized philosophy, it leads to people just withdrawing into whatever makes them happy, even if it destroys civilization. I really don’t see how its practical in any way for the long run.

“Actually, it is absolutely relevant. You are preaching about the
importance of white births. Have you done your part? Do you have six
or more white offspring? Prove it, lest you are a biological dead end.”

The amount of kids I have doesn’t validate or invalidate my argument. Is 2+2=4 no longer true just because a crackhead says it instead of a math teacher?

“Haven’t you heard? Soros has been arrested. Vox Day told us. Pay closer attention to the memos sent to you.”

This hasn’t been confirmed, so far its just a rumor on 4chan and 8chan with very little circumstantial evidence. Even if he was arrested, that doesn’t mean elitists with institutional power such as Goldman Sachs or the Federal Reserve don’t exist.

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“Yes, I’m so terrible for wanting people to think of what works for a society instead of what works for themselves.”

Not wanting, but demanding. And individuals are thinking about what works for society.

“Nihilism is essentially creating your own purpose without God or religion.”

Your own personal definition, assuredly.

“…even if it destroys civilization. I really don’t see how its practical in any way for the long run.”

You ASSUME people’s decisions that you abhor will destroy a civilization.

“The amount of kids I have doesn’t validate or invalidate my argument.”

It makes you a hypocrite. “Look everyone, have more white kids…but I don’t have them myself”.

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“Not wanting, but demanding. And individuals are thinking about what works for society.”

Strawman, nowhere did I demand anything.

“Your own personal definition, assuredly.”

Nihilism by definition is the rejection of traditional values and structure, not because Nihilists think they don’t work, its because they don’t care since they believe life is meaningless. Source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nihilism

“You ASSUME people’s decisions that you abhor will destroy a civilization.”

Lol, if people chooses to reject traditional values and structures in favor of hedonism and decadence, then society falls apart. You see this in the downfall of any great Empire. Women’s liberation is what killed the fertility rate and economy of the Romans, which is how they were overthrown by Barbarians kinda like the third world Barbarians overthrowing the west today lol.

“It makes you a hypocrite. “Look everyone, have more white kids…but I don’t have them myself”.

No it doesn’t, I don’t have to be an astronaut to tell you space is a vacuum, just like I don’t need twenty kids to tell you that low birthrates is detrimental to a society’s future.

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“Quit making excuse for attacking a pro euro tribe woman who is against foreign hordes taking over europe.”

So what are you doing to physically stop this invasion from taking place?

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Not attacking young people who are strong advocates for border defense/immigration control for one.

Thats enough;but as it happens i also am:

Persuading every migrant i meet to leave.

Financially Support identarian boat in the Med.

Anyway so what?

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1) Tara McCarthy isn’t even white. She’s part east Indian.

2) Ah, Black Pigeon Speaks, white guy from Canada who was dismayed that there were fewer white people in his community, so he moved… to Japan.

3) “You are being anti europe,anti european,anti white.”
And?

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3) then fuck you islamic mongrel jew no one gives a fuck what you think regarding defending europe.keep coming abd you’ll get a bloody backlash.

2)and so?

1) zzzz idgaf mass immagration is the problem

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1) Isn’t it sad that the master race needs so many non-whites to stick up for them?
2) “What is hypocrisy?”
3) Clearly you give a fuck since you responded.
“Islamic mongrel Jew.” Buddy, you are aware that Europeans are a mongrel people, being a composite of four ancestral groups, yes?
“You’ll get a bloody backlash.”
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1) eh?
2)nope.his point about focusing on gdp per capita and maintaining demographics via immigration control like japan is consistent and valid and relevant.
3)you already stated you were anti european,anti europe and anti white.i was talking in general-europe will fight back against people like you who are against europe and europeans .

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Ah yes, Japan. That dying country whose entire culture was replaced by western culture and values, and which has essentially become America with slanted eyes and weird fetishes.
What have the Japs ever produced that’s really theirs besides anime (which is itself an imitation of American animation)? Isn’t it funny how a guy whose entire schtick is ranting about population decline… is himself an immigrant?
HYPOCRISY.
I honestly don’t give a damn what Europe does, tbqh. Their time in the sun is over. It was inevitable. Time marches on.

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What the fuck are you talking about.the Japanese have high living standards and have proved that the myth of needing foreign immigrants is a myth.
Again wtf are you talking about.europe doesnt want you immigrants/rapefugees/terrorists so fuck off and stay in your own shithole you anti european scumbag.
You literally have said nothing useful or intelligent you hateful piece of shit.

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well.. if (and it’s a BIIIG “if”) Europe does not want immigrants, refugees etc, then WHY there are NO mass anti immigrant protests in Germany, Sweden, England, Holland, Norway etc?:)

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There are loads look up pegida rallies for one.but there are more.

Media suppresses a lot of them.

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“the Japanese have high living standards”
Thanks to the United States.
Their religion comes from India, their writing system and architecture from the Chinese.
The Japs have NOTHING to call their own.
So do you agree that it’s time for Roosh to leave eastern Europe (being a swarthy non-white himself), and return to Kebabistan where he belongs?

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Japan had a relative high standard of living even before they same under US military protection.Anyway they are number 3 economicallly and their self defence force is huge.its obvious that they are basically self sufficent.Again what the fuck is your point;none of that disputes the fact Japan doesn’t have immigrants refugees coming in,and they have high gdp per capita.
No Roosh can stay.

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No they didn’t. They were a violent, backward shithole for most of their existence. If it wasn’t for us they’d still be that way.
I say Roosh has to go back. Because he does. He’s nonwhite and as such an inherent threat to western civilization.

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?”us” so your an american who is anti white and anti european? Wut?

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Historically America was pretty anti-Europe, pal. In fact, they fought a war of independence to break AWAY from Europe.

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So you are an anti white anti european; non white american?

Who still hasn’t prvided any value.is commenting a lot of irrelevant shit .not contesting anything.

Bye hateful piece of shit

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“What have the Japs ever produced that’s really theirs besides anime?

More than what you have produced. Are you really that historically ignorant?

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“More than what you have produced.”
Wow. What a crushing comeback. How will I ever recover from this savage blow?

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“What a crushing comeback. How will I ever recover from this savage blow?”

Repent for your sin for lying and refrain from mouthing off in the future.

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What a load of baloney…. Europe is done like a dinner, like a Christmas turkey! It will NEVER rise nor do anything against refugees, political correctness, feminism and affirmative action.
At least all western Europe is done!

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“Women’s liberation enables women to live like sluts and abort their babies.”

Stop being so melodramatic. A number of modern-day men and women act uncivilized–they screw anything that moves, use birth control as if it was candy, and focus more on themselves than others.

Furthermore, your own ancestors came from a “Third World” nation. You reek of hypocrisy.

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“Stop being so melodramatic. A number of modern-day men and women act
uncivilized–they screw anything that moves, use birth control as if it
was candy, and focus more on themselves than others.”

Okay, I’m aware men act degenerate, whats your point? I wasn’t blaming women, I was blaming laws, like women’s liberation which is a product of second wave feminism.

“Furthermore, your own ancestors came from a “Third World” nation. You reek of hypocrisy.”

What the fuck does this have to do with anything?

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“I was blaming laws, like women’s liberation which is a product of second wave feminism.”

Laws in part created by men. Listen, there women’s liberation or feminism or whatever term you want to use is here to stay. There is no going back to the “good old days” of patriarchal, Christian rule. Once you embrace this fact, life will be much better. Don’t sweat the small stuff.

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I know it was created by men, I know there is no going back, my frustration is mostly guys who blame other guys for not accepting this, so we really don’t have any disagreement here.

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Soooo, didn’t North American males welcomed, embraced, accepted and often even promoted shit like politicall correctness, feminism, quota hiring, affirmative action, multiculturalism??
And it is still “someone else’s fault”, eh?;))

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Soooo, didn’t North American males welcome, embrace, accepte and often even promote shit like politicall correctness, feminism, quota hiring, affirmative action, multiculturalism??
And it is still “someone else’s fault”, eh?;))

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Where did critical theory and feminism come from?

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I do not give a flying shit about theories, but I do care about facts and deeds.
And what I’ve just said IS indeed true.
But YOU may still go back to your theories, while being yet another behind the screen “king”.
Funny how keyboard warriors loooove to call themselves “kings”;))

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Poe’s Law going into overdrive

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Broadcast yourself to hundreds of thousands of men and be upset that half of them are total garbage who treat you like total garbage.

Or, pick one man who is not of that half of the male population, focus all your attention on satisfying his needs, and expect the same in return.

The options are on the table. It’s a woman’s right to choose, for now.comment imagecomment image

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I was with you until I realized you like Donald Trump. Then my opinion of you dropped faster than the Stock Market on Black Friday.

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I don’t like Trump either, but that doesn’t negate the point of the video.

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Hey Roosh why do you never post on your own forum? Don’t even want to associate with the nihilistic self-aggrandizing trash you’ve created? Man I feel bad for you. Tried to warn you tho. This is why the Buddha preached RIGHT LIVELIHOOD, not degenerate livelihood…

I'm not fat I'm just curvy lol
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Just gonna put it here… A tradthot delivering a speech…comment image