Travel Datasheet For Kiev, Ukraine

I was only in Kiev for three nights so consider this a “light” datasheet.

Just like in Kharkov, which I wrote about in Bang Ukraine, logistics are hard to pin down. Yes, you can stay right in the center at Independence Square (Maidan Nezalezhnosti), but the venues nearby will be visited by foreigners and girls who are semi-pros. Other bars and clubs are spaced quite far apart so get ready to blow a lot of cash on taxis and entry fees. If you don’t know how to speak Russian with taxi drivers to negotiate fares, you’ll be paying the gringo price. Don’t be surprised if your weekend in Kiev ends up costing you more than a weekend in a Western city like New York or Miami.

GIRLS

If you have no Eastern Europe experience, and by Eastern Europe I mean Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, and Russia, you will be taken for a ride by the women here, and that’s okay. You need to learn how it works, and each time you get “tricked” you will gain the needed experience to understand what it takes to succeed in this part of the world. I came to Kiev after three months in Kharkov, so I already knew the deal, and ended up helping a fellow American from getting stuck with the bill when a girl was ready to order everything she saw on a sushi menu. The learning curve is steep and painful, but it’s part of the process that you can’t escape unless you have extensive experience with Russian girls back in the USA.

It’s important to have a backstory for women you meet in Kiev. Their receptiveness increases ten fold if you dress sharp and have a story that you’re in town for business with hints of long-term intentions. I think a short trip without knowing Russian or having a solid backstory is okay for research purposes, but don’t expect to pull unless you’ve heavily pipelined on a VK.com, Ukraine Date, or Mamba. Keep in mind that guys who got laid in Ukraine from a short stay all did it through internet dating, which has its own set of pitfalls. If you think one weekend (and perhaps two) is enough to get laid from just night game, you may be in for a surprise.

The sex tourist issue for Kiev has been overblown. If you go to the sex tourist bars every night then yeah, it’s a problem, but the nightlife is quite diverse and if you take the risk in going off the beaten path then you can be the only foreigner in the club. Even in the mainstream venues I was able to visit, I was quite pleased with the reactions girls were giving me. You could easily get 2 or 3 numbers a night with casual approaching for dating. I hear one-night stands are possible in Kiev, but it seems more of a luck thing than a regular occurrence.

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WHERE TO STAY

Staying close to Independence Square is your best bet so that you can venue change dates to your pad, but when it comes to going out, you will probably have to hop in taxis.

THE BOTTOM LINE

I need to do more research on Kiev, but I was pleasantly pleased with my visit in spite of the fact that I went to the obvious club that had semi pros. Girls in Kiev were very pretty, had at least a basic grasp of English, and received foreigners well if they appeared to be of means. My experience was completely different than when I was in Kharkov and meeting girls who didn’t speak English and weren’t at all that interested in me. It’s contradictory, since you’d think that Kharkov girls, who are more poor, would also be more eager to meet a foreign guy, but I was received more warmly in Kiev during three days than Kharkov in three months.

Read more of my Kiev thoughts here.

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DanishHOTgirl
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Hi Roosh V aka Jesus-wannabe
I Think you should take a look in the mirror before you diss Danish girls again. LIKE HELL NO we would go to sleep with a caveman. Try to go visit the barber – and maybe come back again.

Jim
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He wrote about Denmark 2 years ago. Are you still bitter?

L8_apex
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Who are you trying to convince? Looks like somebody is a little irritable.

desertman
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Sounds like he struck a nerve. Scandivian women may have the best genetic beauty around but you ruin it with hipster hels look style and not acting femine. Better learn from your slavic neighbors to regain that old swedish/scandinavian model steritype otherwise theyll take and youll be compared to british women.

Camran Manikfan
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A self-proclaimed ‘HOTgirl’ babbling about all men being ‘out of her league’ (again). Sweet.

Empty vessels make the most noise…

desertman
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Seems like the further north and west you go the women are slutty,less femine, bitchy, and uglyier or more masculine they get. The more south and east you go the mediterean and slavic women are more conservative,feminie,sweet n sexier. The germanic(english scandinavian dutch german) women an celtic(irish scot welsh) women ruined their physical uniqueness(blonde n red hair blue green eyes), with feminisim. Now datin will be more difficult since your men will chase foreigners and the foreigners will see you as sluts not worthy of commitment or respect. This better be a wake up call cause your men (scandi) are known to be good looking while the brits an irish men are known to be charming.
Better hit that treadmill, do squats be femine and dress nice before your men start importing more thai women.

lakerlynx
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I was at a wine tasting last night and mentioned to some American women that I was dating a Russian girl. I later overheard one of the women say “they’re stealing all our men!”

Camran Manikfan
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Excellent. They just might woman up for once.

tom
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Excellent!

I would have been so tempted to reply “Oh she didn’t steal me. I prefer non-American women, and i know I’m not alone. “

YosarriansRight
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I wonder if they’ll figure out why “they’re stealing all our men!”? Nah…

pcincorrect
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Of course they’re “stealing” men! After having a russian woman, why on earth would ANY man go back to American women. It’s not possible.

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Roosh seems to be oblivious to the fact that Ukraine is torn between Russia and the European Union. This creates political instability as shown by the massive and violent demonstrations against Yanukovych taking place right now in Kiev and other cities. Yulia Tymoshenko’s continuing imprisonment is not helping matters. The PUAs from the West forget that Ukraine is still far from a stable Western or Central European country

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Reading this is a guarantee guys that roosh is a scammer with no game. I think all pua are scammers. I lived a long time in Kiev and his experience is what losers get in ukraine. One night stands and day game stands are possible. Girls are actually passive and you must lead.