The structure of mating is determined by women, not men. This is why the elite have spent the past few decades to elevate the ideology of feminism by targeting women, persuading them that leaving the home to become empowered in a 9-5 job while screwing bad boys on the side would make them happy. Because feminist leaders themselves are unskilled at intellectualism or even marketing their message, they were financed and supported by those who benefited from the destruction of the family unit and decreased price of labor thanks to women flooding the workforce.

Unless men control women, they are at whim to what women want. Right now women want easy high-paying jobs, a generous daddy government to enable their whoring, and sexy and entertaining cocks that take their minds off their purposeless existence. Men such as myself have responded to this call by dutifully paying taxes that get redistributed to women and learning game to give them the attraction units required to get laid. The many men today who call themselves alpha because they cold approach with a cocky and aloof game would no doubt transform to being beta if that was the strategy that allowed them to have sex at all.

If women are leading the way, what causes them to want what they want? Besides following their instinctual natures, women have been convinced and persuaded by feminists and mainstream culture to prefer degeneracy over tradition and casual sex over monogamy, especially during their fertile prime between the ages of 18-25. This wasn’t done overnight, but through decades of programming and brainwashing by foisting big lies as truth until a generation of women were raised under myths that came to be accepted as fact. While you can argue that the culture today allows a woman to behave according to her true—and very flawed—nature, there is nothing in the establishment that attempts to minimize its worst effects. In fact, they take a small inclination of a female’s nature and amplify it until the individual woman is destroyed, wholly subservient to what corporations and government tell her to do.

If we are to change women on a mass scale, we have two options. The first is to command them. We could imitate Islam, cover them up, shame women who wear yoga pants so tight that their snatch is showing, and monitor who they have sex with. The second option is to re-program them to believe that wanting to be traditional and feminine is what they actually wanted all along. Determining which path to take will depend on what type of power we ever achieve. If one of us is made dictator of the United States, the first option can allow our ideas to be implemented quicker, but many women may reject the medicine after being “free” for so many years. The second option would require us to be at the seats of government, higher education, and the media. It’s not clear which would be easier to accomplish.

In the meanwhile, the best option is to develop propaganda that positively affects women who already have some natural immunity to degeneracy and promiscuity. Using the internet, we must spread articles and images convincing her that..

  • being loved by one men is better than getting attention from 1,000 men who just want to fuck her
  • being a mom is more fun than being a corporate slave
  • making your own food at home from scratch is more fulfilling and healthy than dining out with poisonous processed foodstuff
  • trips to the park with your family are more enjoyable than getting drunk at the club
  • sleeping with a lot of men is disempowering instead of empowering
  • having faith in a higher being will give you more meaning and purpose in life
  • being a homekeeper for a man who loves her is better than working in a job for a boss who doesn’t

If our propaganda is good, the above list can spread quite easily, especially considering that for most women, they all hold true: a traditional feminine life is more satisfying than being a consumer who lends your body for short-term sexual encounters. But as you already know, the establishment has successfully convinced women that a housewife is “slavery.” Women didn’t always believe that—they were convinced of it. It’s up to us to convince them of the opposite. Women are in fact so gullible, as any of you who have had more than ten sexual partners can vouch for, that I bet we could double the number of traditionally minded American women in ten years with just a few internet sites. For example, here’s an image I created in five minutes:


If just one man made ten of these images a day and spread them throughout the internet, the birth rate would show a small uptick within five years. The only reason we are losing is because the enemy has 100,000 propagandists spreading the opposite message. If slick New York marketing firms and Hollywood studios were on my side, I bet I can convince women of even crazy things like anal marriage being about love and gender identity being a social construct. Just imagine the zany ideas we can convince them of!

Women are not created, they’re made. They absorb the environment like sponges and from that we should be encouraged that it will be a relatively simple matter to influence them to behave in a way that is correct. We need to start small, with memes and images, and work from there. While this will not be an easy task, we’ve arrived at a point where we can no longer complain about today’s women unless we actively try to make things better by shaping their minds and then giving them firm commands on how to enjoy a traditional way of life. If the left can mold women with lies that hurt them, I’m sure we can mold them with truth that helps them.[culturewar]

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  1. Dr. Weezil November 25, 2015 at 9:10 am

    Why aer reduced labor costs a bad thing?

    Labor theory of value fallacy.

    The important thing is productivity versus cost. We want the former up and the later down.

    1. NeoFuturist November 25, 2015 at 9:20 am

      Who is John Galt amirite?

      1. Joseph Goebells November 29, 2015 at 6:23 am

        John Galt was a man who put his own happiness before that of any other man.

        a man who would laugh at any idiot today who would assert the notion of “you deserve to be treated badly because you have real self-esteem.”

    2. jared thompson November 25, 2015 at 9:51 am

      I think there are too many bad theories out there; just a few points of the reality:
      (1) economics is not a science, but is just mere propaganda and manipulations
      (2) robots are not taking people’s jobs as much as the ‘elite’ believe in serving themselves and have divorced themselves from obligations to those who keep them fed and clothed – the elite are criminally insane and will implode after destroying the very populations they depend upon
      (3) peak oil and global warming; as well as peak population; are all bull5hit and we have a long way to go before exhausting any resources – these are all manipulations for a reason for the ‘elite’ to depopulate us
      (4) labor costs are not so important as much as having an economy and social system that serves the people; obviously western society has social engineering via welfare and social security entitlements as opposed to a system that serves the many rather than keeping the few in power.

      1. 66Scorpio November 26, 2015 at 10:07 am

        You are maybe batting .500 my friend.

    3. spicynujac November 25, 2015 at 3:19 pm

      I’m not sure what you’re getting at here. Are you saying women entering the workforce and lowering the cost of labor is a good thing for economic productivity?

      Even if that were true, it ignores the social costs of having women leave the home.

    4. 66Scorpio November 25, 2015 at 4:34 pm

      The weird thing is that is that feminists and neomasculinists should agree on the value of the labour of a homemaker.

    5. KBB Removal November 25, 2015 at 6:38 pm

      Productivity is already a function of Cost from the point of view of the capitalist. Massive leaps in technology/efficiency cannot continue forever, however costs CAN be reduced by cultural changes that gradually acclimatise people to a lower standard of living. Given that the majority are employees rather than members of the ownership or capitalist class, the benefits of increased productivity to the average person are limited to begin with unless we see massive consumer price reductions, but reduced costs can definitely be a bad thing. Economics is not a hard science governed by laws of physics, but by laws of man, his culture and morality. The only science involved at the end of the day is income less costs, the profit margin, the bottom line.

      If there are barriers to sufficient competition in a market, whether financial, technological or regulatory, or monopolies/oligarchies exist, the benefits of decreased costs are not passed on to the consumer and can simply be pocketed by oligarchs.

      A huge public sector and welfare state is inefficient, unproductive and provides people with money that they can use to increase demand(and so price) of consumer goods and property, without themselves having to work productively or increase efficiency. It also robs the productive of a percentage of their income they could use to invest in productivity.

      Many markets don’t follow a simple pattern. See real estate and housing for instance, or even education. Inflated land, rents and property markets due to financial manipulations, low interest rates + easy credit and demographic/cultural changes, like more single people living alone and influxes of immigrants mean costs of key necessities can spiral out of control, beyond what any real or theoretical benefit of increasing productivity could keep up with.

      1. Titan000 November 26, 2015 at 5:04 am

        Capitalism is regulated by the buyers. To tweak capitalism to benefit humanity is to ensure that the right services and goods and people are incentivized. Which is determined by cultural and religious values.

      2. Be.Mccoy February 28, 2016 at 8:55 pm

        How about those farmers out west who are paid by the government to NOT grow food?

      3. Mirco Abramovitsxh February 9, 2016 at 4:45 pm

        Why do intelligent man like you eventuell post on such a low education level site?

    6. Jones December 2, 2015 at 1:56 am

      I always wondered about this. But there has to be something wrong with the idea of the “lump of labor” fallacy. Probably in elite professions the supply is inelastic.

      It’s just not true that we can absorb as many additional workers as we can come up with. If that’s true, then there is indeed a zero-sum game and we have to decide how we want to distribute good jobs.

      Do we want 100 male doctors married to 100 female housewives so that every household gets a share of the social pie? Or do we want 50 male doctors married to 50 female doctors who take the med school and residency spots, work very briefly then quit to raise kids? Or raise kids with basically no parents? While the other half of men and women have nothing?

    7. Zyzz December 3, 2015 at 9:39 pm

      Men need to make a decent salary to marry, have kids, own a house in a decent neighborhood, and a car, amongst other things.

      Women in the labor force reduces pay making it tougher for men to support their families while women stay home to take care of kids.

      1. clockworkelves February 23, 2016 at 9:25 am

        Women in the labor force also raises prices of goods. Prices of goods, particularly health care, education and durable goods rise because there is a larger median income per household. Sellers increases prices to whatever the market will bear.

  2. KermitTheeFrog November 25, 2015 at 9:29 am

    Here’s a meme I made to get us started (not strictly on topic, but I think you’ll enjoy.)

    1. jared thompson November 25, 2015 at 9:47 am

      That only applies to a minority of muslims who are allowed to do this with impunity by corrupt western judges. Most muslims are coming from countries we bomb and then our ‘leaders’ (traitors) then allow mass immigration of these folk whom they know will lead to a divide and conquer situation where they can rule with impunity. Obviously the leaders don’t care as they immigrate people without asking how the population feels.

      Muslims and Whites will fight each other as the jewish bankers and their edomite brethren toast to the demise of whites. However, muslims are not a real threat; orwell mentioned perpetual war, and that is what we get via ISIS (for western populations protested over a previous war in Syria in 2011, so they need ISIS as an excuse to go in there and waste white man’s resources).

      To be fair, many jews would be innocent if they were not brainwashed by their evil leaders. It would seem that humanity is geared to be slaves to a minority of people/social engineering. This is why perpetual evil endures and civilisations rise and fall as we as a species are incapable of learning from our mistakes and improving spiritually. Only a small minority are capable of such things – the vast majority will sadly always exist as cannon-fodder or useful idiots.

      1. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 10:32 am

        The only reason why ‘elite’ ‘leaders’ get away with it is because humanity and the vast majority of the masses are somewhat similarly corrupted – made in the image of their ‘masters’.

        The worst thing is that most people in western society are braindead zombies, particularly almost all women. This is problematic when you consider that these people are all walking off a cliff together and will not/perhaps cannot listen to reason. They are to blame for their own demise and its too late to turn the tide.

        We cannot even mitigate the bad things that will inevitably occur over the next few years onwards. The vast majority of people are in part their own worst enemy and need to be given direction, even wealthy/successful people (who will also go down eventually in a corrupt society). I’m pretty sure that in certain countries, the death toll will approach 100% (especially of whites). The situation is FUBAR and too many people are ignorant/blinded to this, preferring media lies/kardashians/ipad gaming etc.. to seeing the truth. Hanging out with people in western countries is like hanging out with a bunch of people inevitably marked for death.

        Most people are fucking self-absorbed ignorant assholes.

      2. person April 19, 2016 at 1:42 am

        This. Exactly this. I’ve been saying literally the EXACT same thing to anyone who would listen ever since I was a kid. We are heades towards the disasters predicted inThe Book Of Revelations. Sadly most people reject these prophecies not because they predictions (many of which have come true) don’t have merit, but rather simply because “it came from the Biblem so it must be wrong”.p

      3. CryptoReporter November 25, 2015 at 10:50 am

        I dont buy into the “because we bombed them” line anymore. Islamists have been pillaging, raping and killing since 624AD (the battle of Badr). Long before ‘Murica was formed.

        Excellent book… “The Life of Muhammad” written by the muslim historian Ibn Ishaq in 768 AD. The book gives an accurate picture of muhammad.. the very violent, aggressive military commander who fought and killed neighboring tribes and people into submission.

      4. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 11:15 am

        Sadly, all peoples and belief systems have been implicated in atrocities like what you have described… Its not just islam – the problem is evil ‘leaders’ and corrupted masses. I do believe the jewish elite are most to blame, but that does not excuse the vast majority of human beings, especially in the west, of some of the blame.

      5. ElHombre November 25, 2015 at 12:09 pm

        Jewish elite… Aren’t they really humanoids? Like not exactly 100% homo sapiens, but consisting of significant reptilian bloodlines? Allegedly, the Jewish race and all religion were ‘created’ for similar reasons.

        “Everything the Jews do can relate to reptilians such as animal mutilation, blood drinking, and human sacrifices that are involved in their cultural rituals. Other enemy ET’s such who work with the reptilians such as Grey’s do the same activities. Cattle mutilation, abduction, sacrifices are proven to be responsibilities of Grey and reptilians. You see Jews having the same intentions and pursuit. Even in the Jewish made religions include sacrifices that symbolize canniblism such as ‘eating the flesh and drinking the blood of Christ’. And in the bible it talks nothing but gore, blood, an violence that are fed to little children. The truth is that it’s in their nature to do such, they were created for this purpose.” –

      6. MCGOO November 27, 2015 at 3:19 am

        Reptilians?? Cross breeds?? Any serious inquiry to the true origins of man is shrouded at best. It’s hard to find pics of inbred people on the web for some reason and it seems some pretty interesting things come to light. Inbreds are the most shunned and hidden from sight creations around and every country has always had laws against inbreeding. Why the secrecy and taboo with inbreeding? Because it would blow the lid off the junk DNA coverup.

        Why can a breeding rabbit inbreed continually without defect? Because it has no junk DNA loaded with unwanted ‘defect’ traits. Humans have 130 common latent defects from club foot to clefte palate. Most human defects are heart/organ related and never manifest unless inbreeding takes place. A severe case of club foot from continuous inbreeding looks like a pig’s cloven hoof by the third generation.

        How the heck did porcine DNA manifest in a human? A pediatrician says it’s ‘defective’ whereas a veterenarian would say ”oy that’s a beautiful hoof. Nothing defective whatsoever.”

        WE’RE NOT FROM HERE. Earthly humans are obviously hybrid, with respiratory systems spliced from native Earth creatures which can respirate on the specific terrestrial atmospheric mix of H,N,O and He. Also humans have the digestive tract of a pig. Ever go to the petting zoo and look at a pot belly pig’s asshole? Look familiar? Riight. Here’s lookin’ at yooo mr mirror!!

        The fusion between the large and small inestine would be smooth and continuous if millions of years of evolution were in play. But there’s a hard line splice evident between large and small intestine and a leftover problematic appendage, THE APPENDIX which would have long ago disappeared ala ‘evolution’. The appendix was originally the end of a herbivore’s GI tract. Small, it would have left behind ‘pellets’ like a rabbit. Actually Adam was genetically pure (no splice junk) and could inbreed. With only a small intestine and an appendix for a colon, Adam would have pooped out small diameter herbivore pellets, or being a large man with a voluminous appetite, his poop looked something akin to spaghetti or linguini shaped feces (a long mega pellet). Sometimes I can conceive them being squiggly droppings like an extended Arby’s curly fry, but they were thin in diameter nonetheless, as the appendix is 1/7 the diameter of the modern added pig colon when fully shuttered open.

        Ashki Jews can have Tay Sachs especially when inbreeding. It can cause ‘horrendous’ deformaty but the web pics are pretty sanitized unfortunately.

        Series of CATTLE MUTILATIONS occur when a new line of hybrid is being spliced with vital organs and the first sets are being prepared for introduction into the Earth’s ecosphere. Let’s hope our current line of homosapienus erectus hasn’t been slated as obscolete. Depop programs are underway and bovine mutilations indicate a herbivore line as compared to modern man with a more versatile ‘scavenger’ pig GI tract.

        Like I said, it’s hard to find quality pics of inbreds. I wish gooble would full on let out with the shit. When the mother and father are too closely related or are siblings, the junk DNA combines and you find out from all the leftover trim from extraterrestrial splicing what you’re REALLY MADE OF. Oink oink mooooo cluck cluck. What genetic tweak was added to make your line survivable within the ecosphere?

        This is the best pics I can find if they’re real. A human pig hybrid? The other looks like part frog, part prince.

        meh . . I almost forgot . . happy Thanksgiving everybuddy

      7. ElHombre November 29, 2015 at 3:07 am

        (As the result of various genetic experiments,) Anunnaki + ape man = homosapiens. Anunnaki are a species of extra-terrestrials, out of over 80. Their physical form is similar to modern humans. “God made man in his own image”. Test-tubing is actually an ancient method for creating life. This is how the hybridisation was carried out. Also, all animals and plants were created by either these same Anunnaki aliens, or it was another species. I can’t confirm that part, but I can, the others.

      8. MCGOO November 30, 2015 at 1:00 am

        The Aloe plant is unique. Find any match to it. To many it seems other worldly. It could be.

      9. El Cid February 24, 2016 at 1:50 am

        “When the mother and father are too closely related or are siblings, the junk DNA combines and you find out from all the leftover trim from extraterrestrial splicing what you’re REALLY MADE OF.”

        Non coding DNA [Junk DNA ] has nothing to do with inbreeding whatsoever. In genomics noncoding DNA sequences are components of an organism’s DNA that do not encode protein sequences.

        Higher more complicated organism have more of it as a function of Evolution and probability interplay NOT because space aliens spliced up the genes.

        BTW The junction between the small and large intestines and the appendix have biological physiological purpose. So they have been retained over millions of years. ‘Vestigial’ appendix is a misnomer.

      10. shadowofashade November 25, 2015 at 6:12 pm

        “Sadly, all peoples and belief systems have been implicated in atrocities like what you have described.”

        You’re absolutely right. It’s those crazy Amish / Mormons / Baptists / Jehovahs’ Witnesses that I read about blowing up buildings or planes, or declaring war on the Methodists.

      11. Titan000 November 26, 2015 at 5:36 am

        No religious system quite advocates the jihad of Islam against the world. Leaders may be evil but if your own books command the atrocities against the non-muslim kuffar then the religion itself is evil that is the more orthodox its believers the worse it is.

      12. Stadtaffe November 26, 2015 at 11:58 am

        Definitely, it’s not “because we bombed them” at all. They hack off people’s heads with a fruit knife, stone to death, and have a religion that encourages them to expand and conquer by force. Yes, maybe we shouldn’t bomb them for economic gain, but they would be shooting people in theaters and setting off bombs at sporting events even if we didn’t.

      13. Untergang07 November 26, 2015 at 2:52 pm

        Islam is a violent religion, but Europe would have no problems if its leaders weren´t so hellbent in bringing the Islamic world into their lands and their populace so stupid and lazy to not fight against this.

      14. 66Scorpio November 27, 2015 at 12:52 am

        Muhammad was probably the most alpha guy in all of history, not that I agree with all the fucked up shit his followers do circa 2001 and beyond.

      15. El Cid February 24, 2016 at 1:21 am

        “Excellent book… “The Life of Muhammad” written by the muslim historian Ibn Ishaq in 768 AD. The book gives an accurate picture of muhammad.. the very violent, aggressive military commander who fought and killed neighboring tribes and people into submission.”

        Not excellent at all. Gives a false picture of Islam’s Prophet Muhammad. Most of Ibn Ishaq cannot be trusted. Most of Ibn Ishaq and Al Tabari’s narration and stories are false based on vested interest. Interesting rubbish, no more.

      16. splooges November 25, 2015 at 3:02 pm

        keep in mind that this muslim rape cilture is only in sweden. not france which has the largest muslim population and where the women are more petite.
        sweden has a very vague laws about rape. if she says its rape its rape like consenual sex wothout a condom is rape for example. foreign memn dont have game to save themselves.
        this is why they gdt lssser sentences since it was consenual but the girl is jilted. nut stormfags are huge white knights and buy it.

      17. AskingKnotSeaJoe December 2, 2015 at 1:51 pm

        >Muslims aren’t baaaad
        >To be “fair”, jews “wouldn’t” be baaaad (but they are)

        Muslim detected

    2. Elmer T. Jones November 25, 2015 at 10:07 am

      Here’s one that has gotten me banned from several forums :

      1. CanadianSamurai November 25, 2015 at 11:12 am

        ROFL ROFL!!!!!!!! GOOD ONE MAN

      2. Elmer T. Jones November 26, 2015 at 9:41 am

        It’s funny cause it’s true.

      3. CanadianSamurai November 26, 2015 at 10:31 am

        Indeed. The idiocy of it all. SLAM in your face.

      4. Stadtaffe November 26, 2015 at 11:59 am

        That is gold!

      5. MCGOO November 27, 2015 at 1:22 am

        Who or what sites banned you. We’ll troll ’em. Which sites are they. Please, point some names and name some fingers.

    3. splooge November 27, 2015 at 3:46 am

      karen straughan 1 month ago
      I would also disagree with Milo regarding the middle east. One cannot declare a culture to be oppressive to women without also taking a realistic look at what that culture does to men.
      Women get beaten for not wearing a burkha? Okay. And 100 young men were stoned to death in Iraq for having “emo” haircuts. There are standards of dress for both men and women in these cultures.

      Women in Islamic countries can be stoned to death “for being raped”? Yeah, no. Those women were convicted of adultery, of which the penalty is the same for them and the man they had sex with. I know if I had a “get out of stoning free” card and all it took was accusing my lover of rape, I’d do it. Particularly if I know he’s getting stoned to death whether he’s an adulterer or a rapist. I can’t save him, but I can save myself.

      Given the high stakes involved, would ANY woman not play that card? I’m not saying that there aren’t women who are stoned to death for adultery after being raped, but there’s a serious incentive for women who weren’t raped to claim that they were. And every single rape claim in cases of adultery is reported in western media as “woman is stoned to death for being raped”, not “woman and man are stoned to death after woman accused of adultery claims she was raped”.

      -Karen Straughan

    4. splooge November 27, 2015 at 3:47 am

      by that logic, I can put a bunch of middle age white guys in south east asia and call that pedo culture

  3. KermitTheeFrog November 25, 2015 at 9:39 am

    Here’s another I just made for the pile.

    1. Anonymous November 25, 2015 at 9:43 am

      Too obscure a reference for them to get it.

      1. anon1 November 25, 2015 at 10:15 am

        Office space isn’t obscure but it’s true women do not tend to understand comedy or nihilism

    2. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 10:07 am

      The white woman birth rate in Europe is 1.4 per person if we are talking about 100% couples. This wouldn’t be so bad except the economy and schemes such as social security are ponzi schemes so the money is already gone and there are no future offspring to pay for it all. Even mass immigration won’t help to make a difference (although the real purpose of mass immigration is to end the white race). Basically, we are screwed because of prior generations’ inability to comprehend the evils of the governments that they serve – the current younger generations aren’t necessarily much better, admittedly.

      We need the elite gone; de-leveraging of migrants; a new economy; a new social structure (i.e. no feminism) and so many other things.. So its more likely the entire rotting thing will collapse as no females are going to say ‘oh, i will give up my materialism so I can save my society and my race’. No, apparently children grow on trees and women will come up with all sorts of excuses why their entitlements should continue and why they should postpone children so they can slut it up until marriage to some beta fag; string him along; cheat on him or get bored; divorce for ash and prizes whilst he pays alimony; then slut it up some more and indoctrinate a new generation of women to do the same. Fiat currency keeps this mass delusion going and we can see those days are coming to an end. Truly, western marxist feminism has been the ultimate undoing of the white race and may even lead to its destruction.

      1. ElHombre November 25, 2015 at 12:29 pm

        This short video is related to ending/minimizing the white race. The truth is they want to depopulate as many as they can, white or otherwise, as a smaller herd is easier to control. This is the purpose of big cities; for when the catastrophe strikes, as most will be gone. An alleged alien invasion (I think it is supposed to take place on Earth before 2018) and the Elites plans are leaked by an ex-Area 51 employee. This guy is either insane, or telling the truth.. But as soon as he reveals detailed government plans the entire radio station is zapped off the air –

      2. 66Scorpio November 27, 2015 at 12:59 am

        I am going to spend the conceivable future in China. If and when I return to Canada then I think I will become politically active. It will be such a chore because our Cuckservative Party has sold us out on so many levels. They basically absorbed the Reform party and then went all limp dick on social issues and Big Brother on security and privacy issues.
        I think my new party will be the Canuckservatives. Not the Conservatives, and not the Republicans, and not much of anything but purely Canadian version of fiscal and social restraint.

    3. Elmer T. Jones November 25, 2015 at 10:41 am

      Excellent. Change 30 to 35.

      What trolls need to know is how to cut&paste image regions and make the contrasting text outline. I use Gimp which is a little tough to learn vs PhotoShop.

      Once those skills are mastered the opportunity to create genius memes is bounded only by the size of the internet. The best ones comically twist media propaganda the opposite if its intended purpose. And it’s all done by neckbeards.

    4. CanadianSamurai November 25, 2015 at 11:11 am

      awesome meme.

    5. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 11:30 am

      Worse still, i think for most men starting a long-term relationship (similar to a marriage, but without state involvement), the pickings are slim – especially when you consider that you should meet the girl by latest at age 21/22 or less (unless she is non-western/nonwhite). The paradigm of meeting your significant other when she is older is a destructive one, only possible due to an engineered society based on fiat currency. It is not natural, desirable or survivable in a society based on real principles where you meet your significant other at an age greater than her early to mid-twenties, especially when she is white (too much cock, too much entitlement; only weak and/or debased men go there for the most part).

      1. bucky November 26, 2015 at 9:01 am

        love that clip. garfunkel and oates are pretty red pill sometimes, for a couple of chicks. “the fade away” is another good clip of thiers on the true nature of women.

  4. jared thompson November 25, 2015 at 9:41 am

    Its too late for that – marxist feminism is well entrenched for several generations and is exceptionally well funded by evil edomite zionist jews who have succeeded in gaining dominion over the planet. The only problem is, they have been a little too successful as they are parasites only good at regimenting resources and not real leadership; and now having overburdened the golden goose that has been white men, they are set to destroy western (and white) civilisation.

    Sadly, most white women are corrupted and are useless for any real tasks of value. Too many younger women can’t even do the simple task of using a washing machine and think their pussies are gold-plated. Most western and white men are not a great deal better. Every time I see a younger white man on the street, sadly i hate to say, I think of him as the inevitable end-generation of white post-western civilisation as he is not capable of rehabilitation and the women keep picking the most useless men – those are not the capable guys I grew up with; perhaps without good leadership, a civilisation and race goes insane??

    1. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 10:01 am

      I saw a female police officer in the city centre who couldn’t have been more than four and a half feet tall. That’s ridiculous – how is she meant to protect people from big ass criminals? Western society is based on serving bankers via disempowering white men and using infantilised white women in positions way over their capabilities. I mean, many women doctors also go half-time when they get bored/pregnant etc.. Society pays heavily for shit like that. I agree that almost all women and most men are socially engineered in a bad way – just, what to do about it? They are clearly not capable of improvement once they are that heavily indoctrinated and even if you are a white nationalist, you would have to agree that 90-95% of white peoples have become useless if you had a society based on real and honest principles..

      The current economy looks bad – its all based on defrauding each other. The doctors try to get us hooked on meds so they can get paid. The lawyers try to screw us out of cash. The economists lie to us to get paid by government. The sjw/marxists/feminists/etc all claim discrimination so they can get entitlements that deprive other real productive people from making a contribution… shit. The longer this goes on the worse the real correction will be when this shitshow falls. I can’t wait, I’ve had enough of the current situation. There’s no point trying to save most – they are beyond saving and inevitable will end up dead (and perhaps they need to end up dead, because you can’t have a society going on like that, with such corrupted people y’know).

      1. spicynujac November 25, 2015 at 3:23 pm

        I’m surprised there aren’t more women policemen killing civilians. There are over 3 people killed every day in the US by the police. All but a small minority of female officers can’t overpower their male assailants. Which leaves them the option of running, tasing, or shooting the suspect. I’m frankly surprised (pleasantly) that we don’t see more female cops freaking out and just capping people.

      2. jackson5 December 13, 2015 at 5:28 pm

        There is a way to fix this. It will take a lot of work, and the fruits won’t be seen immediately. But it can be fixed.

    2. iBooB November 25, 2015 at 11:53 pm

      That is false but let’s say you’re not wrong- It’s better to go down fighting then run away or give up like a pussy.

  5. Elmer T. Jones November 25, 2015 at 10:01 am

    This is great Roosh. I am penning a blog essay that councils women to go to school, find a husband, make babies, and have the stupid career after their kids are grown. Because you can always get a damn job. But the missed opportunity to have children cannot be reversed. That is the opposite of feminist programming.

    As a father I want to share with women that children are the best thing in the world. For all the pressure the struggle to survive puts on me, when I go out and see kids they just blow all that stress away. It must come from all the happiness I got for free from my own sons so when I see kids that association fills me with good feelings.

    The happiest women I see are at Hobby Lobby with their 3 or 4 children on a mission to find materials for their latest arts and crafts project. Their glitter and paper mache’ artwork is far more rewarding than any report they will ever deliver at Encorpera.

    You can always get a damn job. I have been through about a dozen career changes myself and have seen many people do it. My first wife got a therapy degree, then an engineering degree. But twenty years after her first degree she put it to use as a contractor to the local school system. The education a woman receives will always be there for later use. Feminists who warn them that the degree will be obsolete don’t know what they are talking about. A degree from 1850 is still marketable.

    Feminism is about women who are low on the mating desirability scale ruining the chances for attractive young women to have fulfillment, which they say is to be found in the sterile carpeting, crappy chairs, exhausting commutes, and pre-landfill cubicle partitions that define the totalitarian architecture of Encorpera. Of course feminists don’t know what they are talking about since few actually slog through a career outside of academia. For no feminist offers young women the sensible advice to get an education they can use later in life, find a husband early, bear children, and enter the workforce after their children have grown. Now more than ever with the advent of the internet and online education do people have the opportunities to acquire marketable skills and seek work. You can always get a job and you can start a business or career after the age of 40.

    For all their clamor about women’s superiority, feminists have no creative intellect for devising career paths that consider women’s biological truths. Their bromide is to change the systems to better accomodate women, which can only lead to organizational collapse.

    Feminism has played on women’s herd instincts to convince them that they must have a career, which for the most part consists of clawing at their competitors and seeking validation from workplace men. Children validate a woman and reward her in ways no cubicle job ever could.

    1. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 10:14 am

      Your comment is truth – especially the first paragraph. The only problem is whether it is too late to even mitigate the social collapse of certain western societies – they are only held up due to falsified economics, not because of the society and the people within it!

      Only rural and perhaps certain suburban western populations have a real future.

    2. advancedatheist November 25, 2015 at 10:29 am

      I shop at Hobby Lobby occasionally, and I don’t have a problem with the fact that a religious obsessive in Oklahoma City named David Green started the company and became a billionaire in the process. I grew up in Tulsa, and I like to see Okies succeed instead of living in poverty in trailer parks, regardless of what they believe.

      1. Elmer T. Jones November 25, 2015 at 10:34 am

        I like it that they have clean restrooms and play low volume shmaltz instead of the loud chorus of screaming black chicks or Hotel California. I go there so my wife can shop for crochet yarn.

    3. CanadianSamurai November 25, 2015 at 11:20 am

      Keep doing that blog man. I feel bad for women too. I know how much more happy they actually are raising a family, what nature meant them to do. They are also victims of the elite scum.

      1. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 11:25 am

        they are victims and perpetrators/enablers. Many instigate divorces to screw over the man and want entitlements they don’t deserve; many women are destructive with their cock-hopping and self-absorbedness. I don’t feel as bad when I consider these things; rather, i know they need to be chastised for their poor behaviours (many of which are firmly set and cannot be changed). Western women in the current era are a death sentence for their menfolk – these females are clearly not going to survive the next 20 years and are going to drag us down with them.

      2. jz95 November 25, 2015 at 1:17 pm

        You’re not related to a fella by the name of Jared Thompson by any chance, are you?

      3. MCGOO November 27, 2015 at 12:49 am

        Being marriage contracted or in a LTR with a controlling or ‘bossy’ woman is an ongoing nosedive for any involved man that has foresight. The problem is the woman has no ‘off’ switch. Hordes of western women proclaim avidly that ”NO MAN EVER” will control them in any way. Carouselling, some of them only ride ‘on top’ during sex. The ‘top only’ women are more than likely feminist types that won’t marry without keeping their last name.

      4. spicynujac November 25, 2015 at 3:26 pm

        The sad thing is they can’t really recover the way men can. A blue pill 40 year old beta guy who has been shit on by women his whole life, divorce raped, and had very little success can discover the redpill and still get out there in year 41 and score with teenagers, get his life together, and make shit happen.

        A woman who has been sold a bill of goods by feminism, has destroyed her looks and beauty through poor diet and bad behaviors, has loosened her sexual organs and erased her ability to pairbond by riding the cock carousel, and indebted herself for a useless degree that offers her access to a minimum wage OfficeSpace job, wakes up at age 30 and even if she throws her old belief system out the window, she has lost her best years and most guys will not be interested.

      5. bucky November 26, 2015 at 9:09 am

        i agree, except that i think the age of no return for women is a bit higher than 30. if that 30 year-old woman puts down the frappacinos and starts eating her veggies and lifting weights like a man, she’ll still probably be in the top 20% or higher as far as beauty within a year, at least in north america. many guys will still be interested.

        the sad thing for me is all the 40+ women i know back in my (extremely liberal) city who have done the sex-in-the-city lifestyle while working in HR for 20 years or more and are still looking to find their soulmate. i mean yeah, they are largely responsible for the decline of society, but i can’t help feeling sorry for them sometimes.

      6. spicynujac November 26, 2015 at 10:27 am

        Perhaps 30 is not too late to hit the gym and tone up a female body, but if she’s had more than 3 or 4 cocks (ie is above the age of 17 and lives in a western democracy) she loses the ability to pairbond. What do you think riding the carousel for a decade and a half does to her soul? Not to mention she won’t have the emotional skillset for how to treat a man properly when she has only experienced short term mini-relationships with guys who want to fuck her. And sure, she can shed the pounds, but is femininity something one can just learn? If so I guess Bruce Jenner should be able to outdo most American women in this department soon…

      7. CanadianSamurai November 26, 2015 at 10:38 am

        Yeah, =(. Very sad. Women are so different in men in their ability to change.. I imagine that being penetrated also affects them differently.. Well actually, It definitely is a lot different for them. WOmen are very fragile creatures

      8. iBooB November 26, 2015 at 11:54 am

        I was comparing photos of serial killers and serial carousel riders and they had one thing in common – THE EYES Chico. They never lie.

      9. spicynujac November 26, 2015 at 2:32 pm

        Someone posted some photos of some of the recent loonies here.. Adam Lanza, the theater shooter, some of the school shooters, and they all have crazy eyes. I think we have all seen women with crazy eyes. It was also posted that in Japan they did a study and confirmed this and have a term for the amount of white visible in the eye–it is a measure of instability.

      10. MCGOO November 26, 2015 at 11:47 pm

        Good point about the eyes Mr Spicy. The eyes reveal a lot. Note the ‘drilling’ look in these ”I fuck you up nigga” eyes: Ebony Wilkerson 32 drove minivan full of her kids into the ocean in Daytona Fla in 2014. Luckily they were rescued in time. Mom is in the nut house for good.

        Andrea Yates has stern eyes. Her kids weren’t as lucky. She has the stern look of a disciplinarian. I’ve seen that look in many a school teacher and bitchy/obsessive clean freak housewives have that look too. How many ruler cracking teachers or dust deamon clean up housewives are ready to kill for their over the bar unrealistic standards?

        A lot of parents have to put the fear of god into their kids at times but the game is to mortally scare them from danger and trouble, not literally whack them as an example. The Yates toddlers were restless and would throw shit like kids food fighting. Mom thought they were posessed. A sister wife would have been a godsend to the household but their church had the milk toast shakeresque ‘eight is enough’ policy and would pig out on them if they did the ‘p’ solution.

        Susan Smith has a bespectacled face shared by many young college lefty women’s studies drones who chant shit like ”I’m for abortion” ”I kill my babies”. Susan was supposedly damaged goods by her uncle?? and didn’t fare well going full on stay at home mom. Visit any lib party college town and check out the local planned parenthood office lobby. There are likely to be quite a few Smith look alikes doing it ‘legally’.

        Now the biggie: Look for these eyes in your friendly welfare or socialist service office. This is Amelia Dyer who ran a Victorian era baby foster farm for illegitimate kids. Bastard kids were stigmatized in the era and they were sold off to adoption. Dyer killed up to 400 babies, kids and others by poisoning. ”Men kill for sex and women kill for resources” as is known. Noisy babies were hard to adopt out and she euthanised them with alcohol or opiates. Dyer had the same ruthless money making agenda that the current socialist service child trafficking racket uses to separate the adoptable high dollar kids they abscond with from the ones that get used as medical guinea pigs or that end up as medical waste less a few organs. LOOK FOR THE EYES in your hospital social worker. They’re there! Some LPN’s and other assorted miserable shitwipers got ‘the eyes’ too. Low down ladies carry mace when you go to the food stamp office and when you see the devil eyed bitch, and you will if you’re alert, pop her before she gleans a look at your kid and begins licking her wolf choppers. REMEMBER THESE EYES:

      11. iBooB November 27, 2015 at 12:05 am

        Fuck man you need to start writing articles here, no joke.

      12. iBooB November 27, 2015 at 12:08 am

        Yes, I think there was article about it here. The phenomenon is called “Sanpaku”

      13. Tool Lover January 19, 2016 at 9:46 pm

        I don’t know if Bruce Jenner can learn, but a woman who can open her mind and heart can become feminine. The human is a wonderful thing once someone opens their mind and stops being a mindless drone. Unfortunately women’s poor behavior is validated. Men must own up to their part in the downfall of society too. “Hook up,” sex is bad for women, yet you men, whom are “red pillers” still reward sluts with dick/attention for being whores. It doesn’t matter if you “treated them badly/like sluts,” women will still do it because no attention is worse than bad attention for a lot of children and women.

        Women are very childlike in nature and think in a herd mentality. We do what every other women does. Male attention plus validation from practically every media outlet validates that sexual partners = fun, exploring your sexuality is being an adult, men will think you’re sexy, you’re useful, guys don’t care about number of partners anymore it’s not 1959, etc.

        Its not just beta males reinforcing slutty behavior. Women do need to wake up and realize they are hurting themselves. If men stopped noticing sluts they’d stop. You’ll never get rid of cockroaches by leaving food on the counter, no matter how much you spray.

        Women can learn to embrace and learn femininity just as a man can learn game. True, a woman whom was a slut/feminist/bitch will never be the same as a woman who was brought up traditionally or never partook in debauchery, just as a learned alpha is not quite a natural alpha is it? Its in a woman’s instinct to become submissive. Its the whole reason this “game,” works. The sexes have been so effectively played against one another that we can’t even trust each other. If a woman isn’t able to trust, she will always be looking over her shoulder. Being pumped and dumped erodes trust yes, but if she thinks men do this because ‘they just didn’t like her personality,’ or ‘he’s not ready to commit,’ then she will fail to connect the dots. She will continue to hold on to the belief that her magical pussy will make the man she wants be hers. Because men love sex right?

        A women’s capacity to love will always be locked if she is a feminist. It just doesn’t allow for it. I don’t care if she’s been with one guy or 100. If she see’s men as dogs, is not submissive, thinks she’s an ‘equal,’ that gender are social constructs, she is beyond repair. Very few people wake up and smell the coffee, even if the evidence is smacking them in the face. We associate being wrong with personal failure, or with stupidity. Most ideas eventually proven to be a fraud, obsolete, or replaced by other ideas later.
        No matter how much this site “shames sluts,” women aren’t going to change unless some of the truly desirable men take a stand. STOP FUCKING THEM. This goes for both men and women. Don’t tell me women are not as emotionally mature as men, cant handle stress/work as well as men, can’t succeed without gov’t handouts/incentives/affirmative action like men can, but yet you men cannot resist their slutty vaginas??? You can’t have it both ways. At most you should only be taking bj’s or hj’s with anything below gf material. Women will learn quickly when men stop rewarding slut behavior.

      14. skitzer February 11, 2017 at 3:46 pm

        I agree that men should stop stopping fucking sluts and girls they are not in a relationship with. And I wonder why people like Roosh and other red-pilled men know how destructive for society this behaviour is, and still go out and fuck 100’s of girls, even some of which are in a relationship.

      15. Nevsky December 1, 2015 at 5:54 pm

        I hate HR, I avoid it like a plaque. They kind of shit they come up with.

      16. CanadianSamurai November 26, 2015 at 10:35 am

        @ spicynujac. Agree with u 100%. That really sucks for them, that their most fertile years are the most important, and they can’t get it back like men can; both for reason of their sex, and their raw strength. It does make me feel bad for them. The Fury in me is not as it was, directed right at women, but at this society and its false values etc… Roosh made a nice post of this some time ago too.

      17. Nevsky December 1, 2015 at 5:52 pm

        I think there are enough chumps who’d be interested in this 30 y.o. Sadly enough.

      18. bucky December 1, 2015 at 8:14 pm

        absolutely. i see guys with much worse all the time, at least in the US.

    4. Elmer T. Jones November 28, 2015 at 4:54 pm

      OK, I penned the essay. Your critique is appreciated :

      Girls! The Work-Life Balance Plan the Feminists Don’t Want You to Know

  6. advancedatheist November 25, 2015 at 10:01 am

    having faith in a higher being will give you more meaning and purpose in life

    Philosophers have long recognized that religious beliefs can work psychologically to keep weak-minded people in line, and especially women, even if the religion makes some absurd claims. Atheists should recognize this phenomenon and use it accordingly.

    1. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 10:12 am

      I believe God exists after a near death type experience (though I believed it before anyways); faith is most important of all. Religions are perhaps half-truths mixed in with manipulations, however, just because religion is false does not meant that God does not exist – this is a common mistake made by atheists.

      Weak mindedness is an independent phenomenon and there are plenty of weak minded atheists – i don’t agree with any connection between this trait and a belief in God.

      1. advancedatheist November 25, 2015 at 10:18 am

        I don’t see how a god solves the kinds of problems traditional theists want it to solve. A logically possible god could have created human life without any meaning, purpose, moral guidance, an afterlife or a guarantee of ultimate justice. Theists just imagined and projected this wish list onto their idea of god for basically selfish reasons, when a god has no obligation to us to organize its creation for our convenience.

      2. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 10:26 am

        God is not meant to solve human problems; it has its own agenda irrespective of human wishes and life is a test of faith. I do believe after a period of catastrophe we will enter a golden era.

        I respect that other people choose to believe differently from me – that is their choice and i do not wish to enforce my views onto others.

      3. advancedatheist November 25, 2015 at 10:37 am

        God is not meant to solve human problems; it has its own agenda irrespective of human wishes and life is a test of faith. I do believe after a period of catastrophe we will enter a golden era.

        Your second sentence contradicts the first one. This “golden age” you’ve fantasized about would require god to solve a lot of human problems. Perhaps you should examine your own motivations for wanting this kind of god to exist.

        Christians, especially, assume that the universe should display perfection as a creation of their god, then they have to explain why everything looks so fucked up. A materialist world view, by contrast, assumes that the universe has always looked fucked up, so it has no problem of imperfection to try to rationalize away with “theology.” The latter world view has the advantage of parsimony, in Occam’s Razor fashion.

      4. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 11:05 am

        The current era is a test. The next era will be one of divine intervention. I know this as the truth.

        I believe Christ was the son of God (whom are separate but inter-related beings). God is separate from religion, although Christianity is IMHO the most accurate. Our current era is not supposed to be perfect – it is the era of man serving his own needs (luciferianism). You are making all sorts of false assumptions without knowing me or the basis of my spirituality. Like I said, i KNOW the truth and so have no excuse if I fall short – others can believe whatever they want to; i have no desire to correct you further with regards to what i know to be truth – you can create as many ‘plot holes’ that you want to proving nothing; when you die, you will understand everything I have said and much more as the TRUE REALITY – but until then, you must choose whether to believe or not – i have nothing more to prove against further criticisms; i respect people’s decision to not agree with what I know to be true.

      5. OrthodoxChristian November 25, 2015 at 11:32 am

        “I believe Christ was the son of God (whom are separate but inter-related beings).”

        The word is “distinct” not “separate,” if they were separate then Christians would be polytheists. Think about how the sun has always begotten gravity (the Son) and heat/light have always proceeded from it (the Holy Spirit) due to its very nature as a star. Or, how an omnipotent eternal thinker (the Father) would have an eternal steam of thought (the Logos, or when spoken into creation, the Word) and the Wisdom (Holy Spirit) to apply it.

      6. DarthHideous November 25, 2015 at 10:40 am

        What was this near death experience if you don’t mind me asking?

      7. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 10:56 am

        I had an entity (God? An angel?) show me what entity is running this world (I believe it is what the bible refers to as the ‘beast’ which makes everyone bear its mark). Then I was warned not to make friends with it. It is akin to some sort of global supercomputer AI grid that controls much of human activity, even implanting thoughts into other human beings heads, making them do what it wants (as the humans controlled by it believe that the thoughts they have and the things they believe are their own). For example, the recent spate of mass shootings in schools etc are orchestrated by it, towards some end goal presumably where it replaces God. It was horrifying – the beast has enslaved humanity and owns these slaves; it creates their personal reality for them, without them knowing it.

        I heard the beast’s plans as it laughed at me, taunted me; it mentioned Christ was selfish (a lie) and then it told me when it was planning on destroying certain places; its final attack on believers and humanity in this era… It was surreal.

        Sadly, on investigating certain centres of power in London where I live, I correlated certain things I experienced with real-world truths – I knew some upper class people here; and their real opinions. I believe our ‘leaders’ lie to us – but we go along with the lies because we cannot fight for the real truth. Life is just a test of whether you believe in God or not. Most people are predestined to be cut off from God when they die and after a period of chastisement; God will enforce his will onto all remaining humanity and create a new era, a golden age, where we will live in peace and where money will not exist/not be an issue. We will live for each other and despite having many resources, we will not ask for much except a simple existence where the point of life will be to gain spiritual advancement.

      8. advancedatheist November 25, 2015 at 2:24 pm

        Oh, jeez. Classic paranoid delusions. Don’t you realize how narcissistic this makes you sound, that a supernatural considers you important enough to let you in on the Secret Plan?

        It just to show the selfishness of traditional theistic beliefs about god. Sophisticated thinkers try to argue that Christianity requires the humbling of the self as part of the spiritual journey, but then you look at the rewards-based moral reasoning of most Christians to see that these intellectuals have gotten this wrong.

      9. jared thompson November 26, 2015 at 8:56 am

        Oh please – you’re guilty of all of the things you have accused him of; you’re just too ignorant to see it.

        What he described is not a paranoid delusion – you are just giving yourself away as a troll. Are you a government shill? Are you so narcissistic and deluded to think that you are right and he/others are wrong?

        By the way, he doesn’t describe himself as a Christian either – you just hate God and hate the Christian religion. Are you ethnically jewish??

        You need to just shut your cake hole – because one day soon it will get you dead because you’re deluded and somewhat evil. Your morality is based on your own narcissistic perception rather than acknowledging that others have their own perspective that requires understanding – you are guilty of everything you have accused him of! You are like a feminist – you’re basing your assertions on your feelings and not on actual wisdom or any kind of meaningful thought.

      10. advancedatheist November 25, 2015 at 10:44 am

        Weak mindedness is an independent phenomenon and there are plenty of weak minded atheists – i don’t agree with any connection between this trait and a belief in God.

        I agree about the weak-mindedness of many atheists. It amuses me that they don’t see the difference between theism and patriarchy, and they dismiss the latter as a theism-related superstition.

        We can’t observe our tribe’s supernaturals, as anthropologists call them, despite what religious obsessives and the people on those foolish “ghost hunting” shows on cable claim. But women exist, and men can observe them, just like men can observe the weather, animals, plants, celestial objects and so forth. If the resulting body of experience with women, over thousands of generations, has organized into a patriarchal wisdom tradition which puts women in a bad light – well, you can’t blame that outcome on a god, now, can you?

      11. CanadianSamurai November 25, 2015 at 11:25 am

        Yeah. God definitely exists. Just our perception of “GOD” is retarded. Definitely some great powerful force created this universe, and poured his/her life force into it all. MAN has this source in him, all of MAN, and creatures, trees, even rocks. If you analyse some of what Jesus said, for example, “the way to the father is through me”. He didnt mean that… Christians love to make them self the only way to god egotistical moronic arrogant belligeance.. ASDF!!!!!!!!!!! OH anyways, what Jesus meant is that GOD resides in us, so the way to GOD is in the love of Jesus, which is already in us :D. (BY THE WAY ITS YESUS, ASDF)

      12. Marcus Aurelius November 25, 2015 at 10:14 pm

        But Yesus no help with curveball.

      13. CanadianSamurai November 26, 2015 at 10:42 am

        Not sure what you mean Marcus.

      14. Marcus Aurelius November 30, 2015 at 12:47 am

        It’s a movie called “Major League”. Stars a certain actor who is HIV positive and who we can say is definitely no longer “Winning.”

      15. Heisenberg November 27, 2015 at 2:40 pm

        Are you trying to tell me that Jesus Christ Can’t hit a curve ball?

      16. Marcus Aurelius November 30, 2015 at 12:48 am

        Bats, they are sick. I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very
        much. Curveball, bats are afraid. I ask Jobu to come, take fear from
        bats. I offer him cigar, rum. He will come. Yesus, I like him very much, but he no help with curveball.

      17. Heisenberg December 1, 2015 at 7:38 am

        I wouldn’t leave a rum out around with this group.

    2. CanadianSamurai November 25, 2015 at 11:21 am

      Absolutely true. Religion is the glue! Though I do know that man is more than just blood and flesh, but spirit from another realm as well =).

    3. lol November 25, 2015 at 10:00 pm

      “Atheists should recognize this phenomenon and use it accordingly.”

      They already have, at least the leftist ones, to great effect.

      Secular religions like feminism have usurped Christianity. Sin is now “privilege,” the Long March to “equality” (read: extirpation of sources of narcissistic injury) is virtue.

      What you have now is what you get when you kill god.

  7. advancedatheist November 25, 2015 at 10:11 am

    I’d like to see traditionalist superhero comics where the female characters with superpowers, like Supergirl and Wonder Woman, use their powers only sparingly and reluctantly, and only as a last resort when they can see that the current Big Bad has defeated the superpowered male characters. These superwomen realize that by drawing attention to themselves in ways which make men look weak, they would set a bad example for mortal women, who might delusionally find inspiration to try to rise above their organic station in life by becoming “super” themselves in competition with men. The traditionalist superwoman knows that she bears a great responsibility to uphold the natural, hierarchical relationship between men and women, even if she has the power to violate this hierarchy herself.

    And, by implication, that leaves the feminism to the superpowered villainesses, who demonstrate that their superpowered assertiveness fails to make them happy and fulfilled.

  8. anon1 November 25, 2015 at 10:15 am

    Good article, nothing particularly objectionable here

  9. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 10:23 am

    The problem is that most women would be forced to be different people in a society that served the interest of the people rather than bankers. Women have been socially engineered mores than men over the last 100 years in western society and won’t be going back to making babies and helping men. They can only be sluts in their personal lives and be enslaved to bankers interests – most of them are not capable of being any better than this and inevitably will fall and be destroyed when the economy tanks. This trajectory can’t be changed and there’s no point feeling sorry for women when they’re taking us down with them and their stupid decisions. Admittedly men are not much better, but men produce and women only succeed in a services economy where real production is nonexistent.

    Most western and especially white women are a disgrace; they shame their ancestors and their race – they await only their inevitable destruction and are a major liability to western men of any race (especially white). There’s no way to fix this and it will end horrifically.

  10. rok November 25, 2015 at 10:28 am

    There’s a third way. Kill most, all is imposible, feminists of both sexes.

    1. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 10:41 am

      Now you’re talking (sadly) the real truth. The sheepdog will protect the sheep until he sees that the sheep are too corrupt; then most of the sheep and all of the wolves will both die (as well as some of the sheepdogs).

      Point is, most of western society MUST die; in order to fix things. Not only that, but it is INEVITABLE that most people will die in the next decade to decade-and-a-half. Western populations are the biggest zombified slaves wedded to evil; they are going to end up dead and they will not be able to fit into any new society – they’re dead meat. I don’t know that we need to kill them though – it will be a self-correcting phenomenon and the most important point is to not be there when it happens.

  11. Крум Безстрашни November 25, 2015 at 10:29 am

    convincing her that..
    being loved by one men is better than getting attention from 1,000 men who just want to fuck her

    Then you must burn all your books close down the forum and restructure ROK as you have been teaching men (and thus women indirectly) completely the opposite.

    It takes two to tango.


    Roosh I understand your desire to go back to a more traditional morals but you as a leader of this community have done you fair share of destruction of the traditional family model.

    More and more you sound like a born-again Christian. To be taken seriously you must either renounce all your previous identity or take a long break from all this, cleanse your soul and come back as a new man.

    1. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 10:45 am

      This site is good social commentary but it offers no real solutions (like pretty much the entire internet). To be honest, western society and even feminism is a major problem without any real solution – there will only be a massive correction which is inevitable.

      By corrupting society, especially via feminism, the ‘elite’ have gained dominion over white anglo men; for most have become enslaved to the pussy. This has engendered a situation where families are too small and the family unit has become weakened/nonexistent.

      I’m not sure the Anglo white race actually has a future.

    2. advancedatheist November 25, 2015 at 10:47 am

      Dissolute men in middle age can undergo profound changes in their behavior and in their understanding of the world, and they can express these changes in religious language. Refer to The Varieties of Religious Experience, by William James.

    3. CryptoReporter November 25, 2015 at 10:59 am

      Theres nothing wrong with learning alpha male skills, being a leader, developing game, etc. He is a role model to how a real man should be.

      Not the mainstream media version where men paint their fingernails, sometimes wear panty hose, and whatever other trash seems to be acceptable during the current progressive liberal trend.

      1. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 11:11 am

        I consider ‘real men’ to be something from our past (like 100 years ago), which most of us cannot perceive after being brainwashed by the western social environment.

      2. Крум Безстрашни November 25, 2015 at 11:30 am

        Real men never had to make 100 cold approaches a day, interpret IOIs or read books about it.

        Real men do not think about women so often either as men are what they think about and what/who they hate.

      3. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 11:33 am

        True. Also – Today’s women are not real women. their kinds of socialised behaviours are western white race’s downfall. Inevitably they will die out as such feminist behaviours are not sustainable.

    4. jimmy November 25, 2015 at 12:37 pm

      I think you have it completely the wrong way around. Game is just a reaction to the way things have become.

      Not long ago normal decent men would marry a virgin and spend a lifetime devoted to her. Then feminism changed the rules. Feminism told women to exploit the power they have when 18 to sleep with lots of bad boys and then assume the nice guy would be waiting around when you’re 35 and would still love you just the same.

      Women control access to sex, it will always be that way in a free society. So what should men do? We see a small number of men enjoying sex with beautiful girls in their prime. And many other men left standing at the side who must wait for those women to get older and used by other men before they get their chance for fun. It can come as no surprise that many ordinary and decent men would wish to move from the group who miss out to the group who have all the fun. That, in a nutshell, is what game is for.

      In a traditional society game wouldn’t be needed and wouldn’t work. If a woman is determined no matter what to remain a virgin until she is married then it doesn’t matter how good at game you are, you won’t get her. The fact is that only a tiny number of women think like that today. That is the fault of feminism, not game.

      Roosh is simply pointing out how society has got worse and the ones who have suffered most are women. Not long ago nearly all women could reasonably expect to have a loving husband for life and to be able to raise her children. Today she will have casual partners, maybe marry a loser she doesn’t want later, let strangers raise the one child she has and then die lonely decades later in a land occupied by foreigners. This is all down to feminism, it has been an utter disaster for women. If you asked an 85 year old women on her death bed whether she would trade in the last 65 years of loving marriage with her husband for the “right” to be promiscuous when she was 18 she would laugh at you. But ask the same girl when she is 18 and she would probably say yes. Why is that? Simple, 18 year old girls are very silly and can’t make sensible long term decisions.

      You can hardly blame Roosh for the damage that feminism has inflicted on society.

      1. Крум Безстрашни November 25, 2015 at 1:18 pm

        I’ve heard this (lame) excuse before.

        The Game only cemented the ideas of feminism. It showed women that they can be obnoxious and men will go along with it.

        If you think that the Game is the art of manipulating women, the joke is on you.

      2. jimmy November 25, 2015 at 2:25 pm

        Then it appears you have failed to understand. Try reading again what I wrote and think about it.

        Game is a reaction to the modern world and feminism has been the poison behind much of the negative changes. When women are encouraged to be promiscuous and go wild then you have to swallow the red pill if you want to enjoy young women. Perhaps you have convinced yourself to pretend to be happy with 35 year old women but then don’t bother projecting your insecurity on to the rest of us.

      3. Крум Безстрашни November 25, 2015 at 3:57 pm

        I’m married to 12 years my junior, thank you very much.

        On top, I’m 45 and have grown up children and enjoy nicely latter part of this life. Occasionally I have a young mistress when I go abroad. Most of you will end up bitter and childless when you reach my age and you’ll be discovering that “love” might be real, like our own Roosh has done recently.

        And your so called Game is nothing by a syndicate for beta men, exactly like feminism is one for the ugly girls. You people hate each other but in fact you’re born for one another.

      4. jimmy November 25, 2015 at 3:59 pm

        “Occasionally I have a young mistress when I go abroad.”

        Of course you do. Keep telling yourself that.

      5. Genie November 25, 2015 at 8:43 pm

        “Occasionally I have a young mistress when I go abroad”. You had me until that line. While I don’t agree with some of what Roosh posts (though I admit to trolling), I nearly spit out my coffee laughing when I got down to your post. A married man, with mistresses on the side, accusing an unmarried man of contributing to the destruction of the traditional family model. My my. Maybe Roosh is/was a manwhore, but at least he has chosen not to legally bind a woman to him in a committed role while he fucks other women. You might want to educate yourself on what the definition is of the traditional family model. I’m pretty sure the word ‘mistress’ is not included.

      6. iBooB November 26, 2015 at 12:18 am

        What does him sticking his dick in a port-a-potty have to do with his family?

      7. Крум Безстрашни November 26, 2015 at 7:41 am

        Some women have the mistresses genes. Otto Weininger goes through this concept in details in his Sex and Character.

        Problem with PUAs is they go through a lot of women indiscriminately, damaging the ones who were born to be mothers.

      8. Genie November 26, 2015 at 11:58 am

        I agree that a lot of PUA’s go through a lot of women, but they’re not raping these women, these women are choosing to sleep with them. Even in cases where the guy is manipulating them, telling them what they want to hear, they’re still making a choice to have sex with them after the bar closes or on the first date or whatever. Both men and women sleeping around willy nilly is potentially damaging overall.

      9. Genie November 26, 2015 at 8:08 am

        Now I’m really laughing, good one. Because when someone cheats on their spouse there is always a risk of getting caught no matter how careful you are, hence a risk of hurting your entire family. Again, if men want to sleep around, don’t get married unless this is something your wife is ok with it, and usually, if a wife is ok with that it’s because she too wants to sleep with other people, but men don’t want to hear that.

      10. iBooB November 26, 2015 at 12:34 pm

        It’s wrong to lie, cheat and deceive. But a man has to be free to do what he must. If you change yourself to suit your wife’s emotional needs then you would make a better wife than she. A woman must be the one to conform to the man as she is the one who’s biologically inclined to be the submissive. No man is perfect. Some have gambling problems, attitude problems, drinking problems, mistress problems etc. Marrying a woman will not change that. Only the man can change himself. And if a woman can’t accept a man with all of his faults then the man is not doing his job properly. He should have her believing he is as close to infallible as possible.

        The golden rule type of logic doesn’t apply in relationships and marriage, at least not successfully. Democracy has no place in marriage. A veiled, kind and compassionate dictatorship will do wonders when applied properly. Just ask Obama. You sound like a guy who initiates having “The Talk” with his woman haha. “Honey, there’s something I have to tell you”…

      11. Genie November 26, 2015 at 8:53 pm

        No man, or woman is perfect. If a man has to be free to do what he wants, not being married really frees him up for that. You think women should conform to the man, be submissive, accept his faults, see him as infallible. Ok, lets leave the town of Stepford and consider this question: what is the man going to do for his wife to earn that kind of loyalty? As you stated, it’s wrong to lie, cheat and deceive. If a man is going to continue on doing what he must, be that gambling, whoring around, drinking too much etc, what is he going to do in spite of that, that will lead his wife to think he’s an amazing, kind, loyal man who fulfills her emotional needs. Remember, the kind of woman men here see as an ideal wife is the kind who responds to emotional fulfillment more that sex and money.

      12. iBooB November 26, 2015 at 11:59 pm

        “What is the man going to do for his wife…”

        Fuck her good. Game. Be a man. Don’t try to earn anything from her. You’re thinking oppositely. Just give her all of your love wisely.

        “Remember, the kind of woman men here see as an ideal wife is the kind who responds to emotional fulfillment more that sex and money.”

        That is far from what men here are seeking. Your entire opinion of this site is wrong. Try not sticking your dick in a woman AND not spend any money on her. Let’s see how far you get by just “fulfilling her emotions” hahaha. Guinness Book of Records for the longest hug maybe.

        Now that I see how you reason, your kind of logic is the epitome of an orbiter. You may have come here to mock people who think differently than you but I think deep down you are looking for some answers too. Start by studying and analyzing the true biological nature of men and women and go from there. Lose the shitty attitude too next time especially while you’re sipping on your GF’s favourite Starbucks drink.

      13. Joseph Goebells November 29, 2015 at 5:35 am

        I think a lot of people come here to sort the wisdom from the bullshit

      14. iBooB November 27, 2015 at 11:51 pm

        Just curious, were you born with a vag or penis or both?

      15. Joseph Goebells November 29, 2015 at 5:33 am

        But I thought that “feminine energy” was important to your spirituality ; )

      16. Крум Безстрашни November 26, 2015 at 6:48 am

        The keywords in that sentence are occasionally and abroad. Occasionally means that I do not actively chase women, if it happens it happens. My game is no game.

        And abroad means that my wife will not find out and get hurt. She is and will always be my First Lady.

        We’ve been together for ages and we still sometimes have sex seven times a week, especially in the summer. She’s not neglected sexually and is well provided financially. So she content and even knows that I am desired by other women which for her is in fact a compliment.

        The difference between my life style and Roosh’s is that I maintain a traditional family and women are not my priority. When you keep yourself fit and are successful in your field women just come naturally.

      17. Genie November 26, 2015 at 8:04 am

        I’m still laughing. I’m so sorry. So occasionally and abroad makes it ok to cheat on your wife.
        Just because you’re not actively chasing women doesn’t make any it less deceitful to your wife. And the fact that she’s sexually satisfied, provided for financially, and doesn’t know, doesn’t make it ok to sleep with other women. Would you be ok if your wife had the occasional man abroad? What would your wife do if she ever found out? I’m going to assume she would be very hurt, which is why you’re not telling her. Like’s it ok up and including the point where you actually get caught, then it’s not ok?
        With the exception of open marriage’s, one assumes that their spouse is being faithful. From what you’re saying you don’t have an open marriage.

        You’re justifying shitty behavior by rationalizing it to suit your perspective, while telling men here that they will end up alone for chasing women and sleeping around.

        Men who want to sleep with other women, shouldn’t get married, unless the woman they marry doesn’t care if he sleeps around.

      18. Крум Безстрашни November 26, 2015 at 11:28 am

        What are personal circumstances?

      19. Genie November 26, 2015 at 11:48 am

        Personal circumstances? What do you mean? Are you referring to something I wrote or asking me what my personal circumstances are?

    5. Nikolai Vladivostok November 25, 2015 at 6:33 pm

      He’s not the next Mark Minter. If you read his writing you can see the gradual transformation over the last few years, and the questions that led to it.

    6. yup November 25, 2015 at 8:56 pm

      If Roosh is changing some Ideas that is Fine, it shows a Mind constantly thinking and Trying to Improve, if Roosh is a Born again Christian that is Great! Trying to repair the Broken relationship between Man and woman is Great!
      “The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life.- Muhammad Ali

    7. Danny November 26, 2015 at 5:36 am

      So true. Hey roosh why are your books still on sale? You should be teaching men about hard work and commitment, not banging around the world.

  12. Grody November 25, 2015 at 10:32 am

    I actually found this one, but had to download it cause it made me giggle.

    1. MCGOO November 27, 2015 at 1:01 pm

      I like her clever kitchen stilts. I don’t blame her. Those cabinets can be a bit high.

  13. CanadianSamurai November 25, 2015 at 10:57 am

    The way of nature is; the Man leads, and the Woman follows. In order to “force” women, us men need more power, which we right now HAVE NOT. Most of the male population needs to be red pilled for this to occur =(. The only way now is to appeal to female intrinsic desire to nurture, which I disagree with ROOSH on; will have an effect, and supersedes her stupid social engineering protocol. Unfortunately, women are terribly evil when it comes to wielding power, far worse than men. They wield the sword clumsily, without any training and sever the heads of the innocent. They definitely will NOT let go of their welfare state, and Corporate protectorates.. Definitely propaganda is the only route. Force won’t work right now.

    1. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 11:19 am

      Propaganda requires much funding. Feminists will get much more funding than men’s movements will. The force part will be when the society/economy collapses. Most people (and especially women) are corrupted useful idiots who are going to get us all in suffering and then we all get dead. They also enable a weak society where their lifestyles are based on exploiting others in third world countries for the basic necessities of life we import from such places. The men may be dire, but the women are much worse (and it should be easy for them to be useful! All they have to do is produce a couple of children and help men!). Arguably, most western women somewhat deserve to get dead. And sadly, it is inevitable they will get dead as they do not reproduce and are enabling a society that is devouring its own – they will be devoured too.

      1. iBooB November 26, 2015 at 12:09 am

        Be positive. Enough with the negative bullshit. Roosh had the whole country of Canada on blast and got FREE publicity. Everybody knows him in Canada now after winning. He WON. No funding needed because the media is so easily manipulated as has become apparent after he visited.

      2. jared thompson November 26, 2015 at 9:00 am

        Hmmmm.. he won a battle but the war is lost. Its not so much negativity he posts rather than perhaps the truth; our society cannot survive much longer in its current form and the only way we will make it is if many people are excised from the planet; they’re too corrupted by social engineering and evil leaders.

      3. iBooB November 26, 2015 at 12:52 pm

        True it was only a battle and I was talking about YOUR bullshit.

        Tomorrow if the world doesn’t survive Roosh can look at himself and say he stood up and fought for what he believed in. That is what being a man’s all about.

      4. Joseph Goebells November 29, 2015 at 5:36 am

        Yeah, until he says something you don’t like, correct?

      5. iBooB November 29, 2015 at 9:22 am

        No pictures, please

      6. Joseph Goebells November 29, 2015 at 4:38 pm

        Such a maddeningly clever response

    2. jz95 November 25, 2015 at 1:10 pm

      Wait til ISIS gets here. Force’ll work REAL good then.

  14. NightRider101 November 25, 2015 at 11:00 am

    The worse offenders are clueless men who think men and women are equal. And if you disagree, you are called misogynist and sexist.

    The useful idiots ==> women in general but worse are the men who also believe in media indoctrination. These suckers often fall the hardest later on.

    Remember they taught you 2 + 2 = 4 at school. Well they neglected to tell you. Men /= (NOT EQUAL TO) Women.

    MEN > women.

    1. CanadianSamurai November 25, 2015 at 11:06 am

      Hey Night. I think we ought to give men some slack here. I grew up in Toronto, and was under indoctrination control for 27 years :/. It was only my experience, and willpower, as well as choice which had the Guts to attempt to free his mind. It is like the Matrix when Neo, Meets Morpheus, remember? That is my favorite movie and my favorite scene, this is all about that. I do agree with you only for those men who know of what is happening and coawrdly kneel down with their limp penis in their hand as slaves to the system. That is not a man, a man fights what is wrong, even if it means his death.

      1. john malonoy November 25, 2015 at 11:18 am

        the brainwashing is strong in the west, agreed

      2. NightRider101 November 25, 2015 at 12:39 pm

        well if you grew out of your indoctrination, then congratulations to you. Now there are genuine good men out there that believe in protecting women. That’s fine.

        When you treat a women like a women and not your equal (like telling the women to shut up and get on her knees when she acts like a bitch) and you see those “OMG gawk” faces that other men make. These are the men I’m talking about. They look at you like you committed a war crime.

        Like most men here know that when women act out of the line, it’s your job to put them back to their place. The men who think that men are equal to women wouldn’t dare do that and would criticize and shit on you for doing that (putting women back on her place when she acts up).

        I will give example. Long time ago, I had a girl who just acted up for no reason from time to time. Maybe she was trying to shit test me which is possibility. One day she was acting very rude to a male cashier and I had to stop her and told her to stop acting like that. I didn’t know who the male cashier was and didn’t really care but I didn’t want her to act up for no reason when it wasn’t the male cashier’s fault. I stood up for him because I didn’t want to put him in awkward situation (given chance that he might have gotten fired if he stood up for himself).

        Most guys in that situation wouldn’t have cared and would have enjoyed seeing their girl rip some dude like that. These are the coward dudes. If they let a girl disrespect and get out of line, at some point she may do that to you as well.

        So anyways as we drove back home, I kept telling her not to act like a bitch. She tried to argue and throw questions like … “Why are you so mad?”, “He was doing this, I was on my period… I’m just so tired..” making excuse.. I didn’t answer her question or fall into her trap like that so I kept reiterating “don’t act like a bitch” continuously over and over in stern and serious tone by looking at her in the eyes until she said “sorry I won’t do that again”. Ever since then she never threw a fit at someone in public (at least when I was around her). And she treated me MUCH BETTER after that incident.

        I’m not trying to insult anyone or your intelligence. Just giving you my own input story.

        Unfortunately men who are brainwashed to think that men and women are equal have got it wrong of course. The problem becomes when these men try to shove their messed up thoughts to other people (knowingly or unknowingly) and it’s not their fault which is why we’re here to wake this up to people even if it might sound mean.

      3. CaptainObvious November 29, 2015 at 7:45 am

        White knights amuse me now. I find it absurd their inclinations. They are lost in a solipsistic reality just like females.

        I work security and just two nights ago a white knight got beat up and arrested. All because he tried to posture on the staff for telling this Russian chick we needed her chair, because we take all the chairs on the main room when the dj plays. Said white knight gets aggressive with us for daring to tell a woman something. I then move to escort him out at which point he resists and fights us, punched one of my guys and ends up getting beat up. He calls cops and they end up arresting him for public intox, tresspassing and assault.

        This is the fruit of the white knights labor.

      4. NightRider101 November 29, 2015 at 8:52 am

        lol hahahah

        He deserved to get beat up.

  15. CryptoReporter November 25, 2015 at 11:09 am

    Roosh, I appreciate this article as it has arrived at an interesting time in my life. Ive been married 10 yrs. Ive always wanted kids, but my wife has tried to plan everything for her masters degree and career. I had no problem with this plan the first couple years as I was busy too, but I grew tired of it and pressed for kids. Her career took over and she salivates with every new pay raise looking for the ultimate goal of $250K a year reaching partner level in her firm.

    I had to man up recently and tell her enough is enough. I want her to ease back on her career so we can have kids. She is nothing but a ball of stress from her job with her health starting to decline and I dont even want to be around her anymore. I moved out the other day. Its been tough, I wont lie. 10 years with someone is a long time (at least for me!). But its up to her now to make changes in her life or keep going with her career. Either decision I fully accept. Im not an expert on RP theory and practice, but without it I would have never kicked my butt into the best shape of my life and put my foot down to her.

    Thanks man!

    1. Elmer T. Jones November 25, 2015 at 11:47 am

      Tell her a man wants a wife, not a co-worker.

      If she chooses her career over having children and you end the relationship, the absolute worst blow to her will be when you have children with another woman.

      From what you are saying and what I have observed, she will encounter a devastating health issue that will terminate her wonderful career. After radical surgery she will go home to an empty apartment instead of a home filled with children who love her.

      For her sake she had better wise up before it’s too late.

      1. iBooB November 25, 2015 at 11:34 pm

        Children are an investment. How it pays off will depend on how we raise them. Traditionally, children were the ones who took care of their parents when they got older. There were no after care facilities. I sure as fuck would not want to go there after seeing how the elderly are treated. It’s hard to tell if you’re in a seniors home or a mental/prison ward with some them. I’d rather do my best on being the best traditional father I can be and have my kids take care of me in my old age.

    2. Marshallaw November 25, 2015 at 11:54 am

      Get the hell out of there and get a younger more feminine model. Women and regular office “careers” lead to cats. If there something more family friendly she was willing to pursue fair enough. Sounds to me like she’s too far gone. I was 6 years with a bird, paid for everything, house, car, restaurants, all the rest. All she could think about was the next holiday, blah, blah. Had no notion of kids. Never made me as much as a sandwich. 10 years is way too much to waste on this woman. I don’t know maybe she makes you eyes spin when she sucks your cock. Otherwise I don’t see any reason to hang around……

      1. CryptoReporter November 25, 2015 at 12:10 pm

        Ive had better sex for sure. In fact, I had more sex with my previous GF in 3 months than this entire marriage 🙂

        It really started to sink in around year 5 when she kept telling me “one more year and we’ll have kids”. Five years later its the same song and dance. I also paid for her second bachelors and masters (previous she had a bachelors in another country). And same deal with me… its always 2 or 3 vacations a year. I even renovated half the house and built a fireplace/chimney myself all which turned out awesome and she wasnt thrilled with it since I spent half her money.

        Looking back on my parents who were married 50+ years, they had 5 of us kids, rarely took vacations, and my mom was in tears when my dad renovated their kitchen.

      2. Marshallaw November 25, 2015 at 12:15 pm

        Tears of joy I take it….. the peculiar thing about many men’s experience with women these days is how similar they are. 50 years ago the similarity was men and women had defined roles in life. Now it’s all over the place and women and men are walking in different directions instead of hand in hand towards a mutual goal…. family…..

      3. spicynujac November 25, 2015 at 3:44 pm

        They just take so much shit for granted these days. I watched the premiere episode of The Price Is Right on youtube.. one of the women there won a dishwasher and she was jumping up and down in tears… Finally no more washing dishes by hand. Fast forward to today and if your dishwasher doesn’t have a stainless steel front and your granite counters are the wrong shade, the woman will be demanding a kitchen makeover. How did this happen!

      4. Marshallaw November 25, 2015 at 4:49 pm

        A kitchen makeover and she can’t even cook…..

      5. yup November 25, 2015 at 8:36 pm

        I hope that it will work out for you, and I hope she will come to her sense’s, I recommend Pray to God for Help.

      6. greyghost1 November 25, 2015 at 3:08 pm

        Get out of that marriage yesterday. No kids and her big career it won’t cost you shit. There is no loyal pay off waiting in the end.

    3. spicynujac November 25, 2015 at 3:41 pm

      Take any advice from strangers with a grain of salt, but I salute you for moving out and say if you are not fully dedicated to this particular woman, leave her and find another. Guys can recover from mistakes like this far easier than women, and although the dating scene is a clusterfuck, you have lots of options, especially if you just want to get a foreign traditional woman who will be your partner and help you raise a family with zero interest in getting rich.

      Honestly, what would 250k a year buy that would make your life better? I live on a fraction of that and I go abroad for a month every year. I bet your wife can’t do that. I’m guessing her 250k would come with a whole bunch of attached stress. I love being free to do what I want when I want, and have a goal of being debt free within a decade where I’ll only have to work when I want to, as the basic necessities are rather cheap.

      Hit the gym, flirt a bit, maybe even go out on a date. Think about what you really want out of life, and decide if this person can offer it to you. There are lots of societies still raising women to be traditional mothers and they will take care of your children a lot better than a career woman will. What does your wife bring to the table? Try to think about it objectively. I know that is hard, because of the emotions involved, but try to step back and analyze the relationship from a distance, pros and cons.

      If you’re like a lot of guys in the west, you may not have ever experienced what a real feminine woman is like. It’s a mind blower. I’m a pale white man, and have never even been to Brazil, but recently saw this documentary which sums up a lot of my feelings on American vs. foreign traditional women. I highly recommend checking it out. And see the comeraderie and positivity and unity that these men exude:

    4. Cadders November 25, 2015 at 3:54 pm

      And if she does what you ask, takes a step down and has kid(s)….what then?

      I suspect you will then never hear the end of the sacrifice she made and the opportunities she lost because you ‘pressured’ her to have children.

      Or maybe she will become a doting devoted mother, drop the career and live for her family. But from what you say, this doesn’t sound very likely. Only you truly know the odds.

      My 2p – in the modern world a man who wants kids as much as you appear to is an increasingly rare commodity. Find a women worthy of you.

      You can build a better life for yourself than this.

    5. Graft November 28, 2015 at 12:59 pm

      “looking for the ultimate goal of $250K a year reaching partner level in her firm.”

      You might want to wait a little before you start arguing! Don’t get the short end of this stick!

  16. James November 25, 2015 at 11:57 am

    great article again

  17. Joe Shanley November 25, 2015 at 12:02 pm

    I have a sudden urge to be a loving mother to beautiful children.

    1. yup November 25, 2015 at 8:30 pm

      Grade-A propaganda Man!

  18. Hank Davis November 25, 2015 at 12:21 pm

    I like that Roosh uses the word propaganda. The goal should be to manipulate, shame, silence, brainwash. So much energy is wasted on the right in the mistaken belief that logic and facts will somehow win the day.

    1. jz95 November 25, 2015 at 12:59 pm

      Sad but true, I suppose.

    2. spicynujac November 25, 2015 at 3:52 pm

      Propaganda is really just directed, focused narrowbeam information. Read up on Edward Bernays and propaganda. He literally wrote the book on propaganda. It’s not about false information, but more about using information to create the power to shape thoughts, values, and tastes.

      Propaganda didn’t even have a negative connotation at the time the book was written–it simply meant pushing your point of view. An example of propaganda is terism. Think of all the media coverage, energy, money, efforts, and public attention has been dedicated towards this issue. While sure, there have been lies told, the majority of the propaganda on this issue was just continually shoving it in our faces, making it much more of an important issue than it objectively is. (The TSA, for instance, has created more deaths than it solves because it has pushed more to drive versus fly and the statistical chance of dying in an auto accident is rather high). If all the resources spent on the TSA were spent on, say, tracking down unsolved murders, one can imagine the murder conviction rate would be far higher than it is today. Is murder a bigger issue than Iraq? Propaganda is what answers that question. It shapes our priorities and values.

      There are many other issues the government could have spent $600 billion on and gotten a greater return than on terism. Setting Obamacare aside, the government could have paid our health insurance premiums for the rest of our lives, giving all Americans free health insurance, for the same cost as the wars in the middle east. What am I likely to be confronted with at some point–a trip to the hospital or an Iraqi?

      Propaganda is a way of shifting the focus and the narrative and changing values. I would encourage Roosh or anyone else interested in this field to look at Bernays and his writings on propaganda.

  19. Elmer T. Jones November 25, 2015 at 12:57 pm

    For this one just used the “paintbrush” function in Gimp :

  20. Libertas November 25, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    A strategy for this would also be to send infiltrators to establishment outlets and dominate the space from within.

  21. McDougal the Brave November 25, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    For the consideration of the new empowered working women;

    You go girl! There was a reason men died younger than women and you are about ready to find out why. Work. The stress, the hours, the commutes, the loss of freedom, and the attending bad health habits of drinking and smoking to relieve the stress and fill the hollow hole in the soul left by a pointless job for just another shit-box company. You’ll pay 30% right off the top in taxes to support people that despise you. If you buy a massively overpriced home, you’ll pay another 5-10% of your income in taxes alone to the state/county/city. You will need a good car, tires, gas, a wardrobe, and higher priced, pre-made food so you can get to, work, put in long hours, come home and sleep. All those things carry a high price in sales and excise taxes. When you’re done, you will have about 30-35% of your income for yourself to pay for the big mortgage, BMW, and expensive corporate wear.

    I’ll be at home learning how to really cook (a timeless skill worth a great deal outside the home) reading, and studying subjects that truly interest me.I’ll go on afternoon hikes (love hiking). I’ll push the button on the washer to start the auto-wash. Dishes..same. Work is minimal (thank you inventive white dudes). I’ll get involved in local activities as I’ll be fully refreshed from my afternoon nap. Might even have a fling with the neighbor. No worries, you’ll be busy at work, and if you find out and divorce me, I’ll get half your stuff and imputed income. I’ll try to find employment, but it won’t be easy now that all of you ladies have taken over. Alimony is a bitch girl. I’ll move on, thanks to the generous payout of 50% of your assets now given to me. Did I mention the alimony?

    You’ll wake up one day, with no kids, and the inability to have any without real risk to you and the child. The risk of birth defects climbs at a rapid clip after the age of 30(talk to any doctor about this). Your most productive and youthful years now behind you, all given to a company in exchange for a few bucks that have bought you little, and taxes that you have paid for another useless war, a parasitic class that hates you for your “privilege”, and the crony corporations and useless government departments that suck up the rest of the tax supported, government cheese. The regret that you traded your only finite life for this will hit you like a ton of bricks

    1. spro23 November 26, 2015 at 3:18 am

      finite life and even more finite beauty years.

  22. Kratistos November 25, 2015 at 4:31 pm

    Articles like this make me disagree with you Roosh. You should let women do whatever they want. Pick Up is supposed to be about improving yourself and getting girls, not about changing how women are.

  23. BlueBot22 November 25, 2015 at 5:08 pm

    Let me think. Means of propaganda:
    -Internet memes

    -Internet comment sections

  24. BlueBot22 November 25, 2015 at 5:28 pm

    I wonder if there are any musicians/song writers/singers in Roosh Nation. Music is an excellent medium for propaganda.

    1. Mike November 30, 2015 at 5:58 pm

      I’m thinking about making a Red Pill album

  25. Thorverine November 25, 2015 at 5:48 pm

    The propaganda would work better if the career woman was portrayed by a fatty

  26. Durandel Almiras November 25, 2015 at 6:29 pm

    Amen Roosh. Let’s do this

  27. Duke November 25, 2015 at 6:49 pm

    Imo love is a subjective term. I would probably equate “pair bonding” as love. And the guy who said that real love exists with a girl that is two points less than you is not that far off the mark. He kept getting ignored because nobody wants to hear that shit. Plain looking girls make really good girlfriends, but it’s hard to sacrifice looks to get companionship. We tend to want both. I think the best way to do it, is get the best of both worlds. Have an average looking chick as girlfriend but still bang hotties on the side. That seems like the best thing anyone can do. It won’t be easy but it’s doable.

    Edit: meant to put this in the other thread.

  28. Han Solo November 25, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    Very good post on how the elites use the media, laws and various other tools to then shape what women want who then shape what most non-elite men have to put up with.

    1. Han Solo November 25, 2015 at 7:59 pm

      Most men are pussy beggars and so they do whatever it takes to get some. That’s why it’s so important to control the “female herd’

  29. yup November 25, 2015 at 8:22 pm

    Very Good. I believe woman can be Molded to any Idea, before women’s Lib women were Good and Loving and wanted a family, and after women’s lib they Despised those Ideas, if there is any proof a woman can be molded to an Idea it is the success of women’s Lib, therefor as Roosh says we reverse this by spreading Truth and with enough Truth, women can Mold to a happier state.

  30. yup November 25, 2015 at 8:28 pm

    It always fascinated me how women could be mislead into accepting Feminism, when Feminist Leaders are Fat, Useless and Lonely, it’s like searching for advice by scraping the Bottom of the Barrel.

  31. Girl in the World November 25, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    I imagine the most direct route of communication is for men to shift the rewards of their time and attention from the degenerate YOLO types to women of sincerity and depth.

  32. 66Scorpio November 25, 2015 at 11:18 pm

    It is a lost cause because it falls on only a small number of red pill men in their late twenties to forties to advocate this, The din that is feminism and the mainstream drowns out the message.

  33. 66Scorpio November 25, 2015 at 11:27 pm

    Actions speak louder than words or jpegs. Stop fucking sluts and find a girl who wants this, either at home (good luck with that) or abroad. Feminism will be crushed if me refuse to be crushed by it.

  34. iBooB November 26, 2015 at 12:31 am

    Sounds good to me. What exactly are these websites we should infiltrate?

    Suggestion – What if we joined forces with the Submissive Wives sect of Christianity?

    There is a movement online which seems to be growing and there are ONLY good things to be said from the women who are living true Christian lives as submissive women. By having women who support the manosphere cause and ROK should undoubtedly legitimize this movement like nothing else. Their movement will benefit by having leaders like Roosh who know how to execute plans of action and WIN.

  35. akita November 26, 2015 at 7:38 am

    I’m a 24 year old female and completely agree with your post. I am attractive and feminine and attract many men. They end up abandoning me though so that they can sleep with other women. The last person I was seeing left me because he wanted to go travelling and he said men have too many options as we live in London. Another left me because he thought I was a virgin! I am not into casual dating, and am still waiting but won’t settle. I feel it is quite rare though.

  36. Katharine Di Cerbo November 26, 2015 at 10:37 am

    I completely agree with the basic premise here – that pro-family behavior should be incentivized. It certainly can’t be forced.

    But I think any “propaganda” would have to have a few important properties in order to be effective.

    a) It couldn’t recall images of the classic 1950’s housewife because too many people associate that time and role with a complete lack of opportunity for stimulation and development. (In fact, that is false, because institutions like the Rotary Club and other community organizations gave women plenty of opportunity to participate in society, but those institutions are gone and not coming back).
    However, we live in a time where it is feasible for a woman to prioritize family life and still participate in society through interesting part-time and/or flexible and/or freelance work, thanks to the internet. So, a more modern image of family life + societal participation would have to be depicted based on today’s conditions.

    b) It would have to give women an opportunity to accrue status independently from her husband. Women will always vie for status, and when a woman’s husband isn’t providing it adequately (even if she chose very well this can happen for circumstantial reasons), she might be motivated to abandon the relationship if she feels powerless socially. I think the best candidate is the elevation of character development and non-religious self-sacrifice as a bragging right. Achieving happiness through meaning-making (like feeling proud to endure life’s difficulties) could become the next thing to compete around. The benefits of meaning-making and gratitude are starting to be well-documented empirically, so that’s a good jumping off point. Better than many alternatives.

    1. CanadianSamurai November 26, 2015 at 11:02 am

      You know Kath, I passed by a school today with a day care. I saw a bunch of happy youngsters being herded by their four female caretakers. I felt, that I hated this, because It felt wrong. I went back to when I was a kid and how bad it was for me, and my sister as well. To be suddenly discarded from your mom, and tossed in with strangers, whom I honestly believe form their conduct are very good at controlling children. I Do not believe they are any good at loving them, which is precisely what young kids need, and do not usually get.

      Back in those 1950’s era you speak of, everyone used to walk to school, and young kids came home for lunch, prepared by her mother. Next she would tend to her house and get plenty of exercise, socialize with other mothers all kinds of stuff, that you don’t do anymore. Basically the Family was nurtured and grown very much by the mom, and then came school. School was very close extension of the home, and teachers would have a strong rapport with their students mother.

      I just read a book on Mind,body healing . SHe confirmed in two instances that children grow without love are going to be degenerated, stunted and retarded. One study was of a home for orphans which was totally clean but one nurse per eight infants, after 4 years most died, couldn’t walk, had cognitive reduction and emotional idiocy. In a separate study conducted with prison inmate mothers, kept in dirty conditions, proved the opposite. The mothers were allowed yo lavishly tend to their children for three or four hours a day. The children in the prison turned out completely fine.

      We cannot casually allow for women to leave their place, their chief place. The Feminine becomes the dominant in the household by the way. Actually her masculine form is in the house, or caring for her family. That is where the Latin word DOMINA of the house came from. Men would be all too happy to submit to a woman in many ways, when she cares for his child…

      Trust me on this, women cannot be encouraged, halfheartedly that it is okay, to have a baby and a career of equal importance. The Baby must always be first, the career is an option… I personally have no issue with my woman not working at all.. Her other job is more important. Each women knows this in her bones… But are more pliable than men, seemingly able to find the most optimal way to co-exist under the corporate elite rule. Perhaps because that is the most optimal reproduction strategy? and women are natural growers. We men the FECUNDATO.

      1. Katharine Di Cerbo November 26, 2015 at 11:06 am

        I don’t disagree that caring for children should be of primary importance. But women like adult-stimulation. They also like a back-up plan and skills in the event that their husband dies or leaves. I don’t think scaled-down work while children are small is incompatible with a happy family life. Lots of women actually do currently do this effectively.

      2. CanadianSamurai November 26, 2015 at 11:13 am

        That is good Kath. I definitely want women to be quite free. In riposte to the 50’s where women were very repressed. I also understand the perils of female sexual repression now a days. Its all a big rotten nasty mess. So long as back up plan, doesn’t mean back up man, as so many women do. I hated being treated as a plan B or when a woman had a plan B man for me before. I wont do that again.

        IN Europe many women do this, as you said. They have career plus family, so I have read. 😀

      3. Genie November 26, 2015 at 12:12 pm

        “Trust me on this, women cannot be encouraged, halfheartedly that it is okay, to have a baby and a career of equal importance.”
        Basically true. See it all the time where women are burning out/feeling guilty trying to balance the same level of work commitment after having children. Unless the father steps up and changes his work commitment, its challenging. Some fathers do this, in cases where the mother has the higher paying job. But typically its the mother who has to make changes.
        Just want to add that fathers should have a very active role providing nurturing care to their children and not be one of those absent fathers, seen briefly in the evenings and out the door in the mornings before their kids wake up. Children should have loving attention and affection from both parents.
        My fear is that if women were to not work outside the home, men would be forced to work long hours to make up for the lack of two incomes, which as it stands is required to function comfortably in western society.

      4. CanadianSamurai November 26, 2015 at 8:18 pm

        Yeah Genie. When I am a dad. I’ll take very good care of my kids. To be a father is an honour.

    2. Graft November 28, 2015 at 12:45 pm

      “Women will always vie for status, and when a woman’s husband isn’t providing it adequately (even if she chose very well this can happen for circumstantial reasons), she might be motivated to abandon the relationship if she feels powerless socially.”

      This is a tough pill to swallow. Women need to feed their starving egos so badly that they’ll ruin families to obtain status through corporate wage-slavery.

    3. Puccalove69 November 29, 2015 at 8:09 am

      Nice pic, I’ll give you a 6 on the Roosh scale.

    4. Pick Up Dat Soap December 1, 2015 at 10:07 pm

      Your post is an indication of why the decision making is best left to men. Your second point (point “b”) illustrates the inherent inability of modern western women to choose wisely and put family first (insert the phrase “abandon her family” for your phrase “abandon the relationship”), and it also illuminates the dangers of unchecked hypergamy to societal stability.

      Virtuous men do not mold their viewpoints to “fit” with the current societal norms, rather, we attempt to mold society to fit our standards. And men do not discard the notion of reconstructing the so-called “1950’s lifestyle” simply because it may signify “lack of opportunity” for women.

      Many women today believe that more opportunity leads to “happiness”, but they are misguided. Many studies show that women were happier in times of supposed “lack of opportunity”.

      Most of us are here to do what must be done, not to compromise and create an image that satisfies the current state of degeneracy.

      1. Katharine Di Cerbo December 2, 2015 at 10:08 am

        So then you don’t like the “propaganda” idea and prefer the force route? Is that what you’re saying?

        Because otherwise achieving buy-in from women is part of the process.

      2. Pick Up Dat Soap December 2, 2015 at 6:28 pm

        Well Katharine, over the last 100 years (give or take), men have slowly but surely attempted to please, pander to, and gain “buy-in” from women on everything from social to economic issues. For example, over the last 100 years, we’ve attempted to do what women SAY THEY WANT in order to “satisfy” women’s whims by doing the following:

        1.) Giving them the right to vote and own property.

        2.) Developing birth control pills and allowing the sexual market place to become deregulated. (

        3.) Incentivizing women to participate in STEM and other areas of rigorous college studies, thus squandering the years of peak SMV and fertility.

        4.) Helping women enter the work force by creating special positions and part time positions. (such as HR departments and a variety of “social services” and other fluff)

        5) Structuring the legal system and family court system in a way that heavily favors women.

        The list could go on… There are many other ways in which men have pathetically attempted to “satisfy” women by listening to what they SAY THEY WANT and get them to “buy in” to certain things – but these attempts are futile because they ignore the true nature of women and what they ACTUALLY DESIRE.

        So, to the uninitiated man, the fact that women are becoming unhappier, unhealthier, and more degenerate as their freedom and opportunities increase seems paradoxical; but, there is nothing paradoxical about it if men are educated and told the truth about how to truly satisfy a woman.

      3. Katharine Di Cerbo December 3, 2015 at 8:47 am

        I get that you are frustrated with the current state of affairs, and I don’t disagree with many of your points.

        But there is a big difference between pandering and getting buy-in. The best leaders always achieve buy-in. And they certainly don’t pander nor are they pathetic.

        So the fact remains – women would have to feel inspired to take certain actions as members of a free society. Again, the alternative is force, which is hopefully unacceptable to you.

    5. Jones December 2, 2015 at 2:23 am

      Smart comment.

  37. Troy November 26, 2015 at 11:06 am

    So are we ok with paying double the taxes? Or are women still expected to pay the same taxes in a society where they have less options?

    1. Cadders November 26, 2015 at 11:42 am

      That’s the thing though isn’t it? Huge amounts of tax are being used to provide women (in a far more sub-standard fashion) with the benefits that come automatically with a traditional husband (provisioning, protection, security and guidance etc). Things that after 50 years, women, as a group, have proven they are unable to to do for themselves (we wouldn’t have the enormous State apparatus in place to transfer wealth from men to women if they were able to do these things for themselves).

      Even larger quantities of tax are used to try to mitigate or treat the consequences of the feminist dream – failing children, impoverished divorcees, broken men, the explosion in mental health issues (especially in women), male suicide, a whole host of social pathologies that didn’t exist before Feminism.

      Men won’t have to end up paying double taxes. Those extra taxes won’t be needed. The male response to feminism and ‘female empowerment’ is already in play; disengagement.

      Increasing numbers of men are already arranging their lives so that they make enough just for themselves. The State is being starved. And it becomes ever less able to fund women’s ever increasing demands – for funds to replace yet another function that men traditionally performed but no longer do. What can’t continue, won’t. Sooner or later the State will have to decide between funding female entitlement or saving itself.

      This day is coming. Women will be faced with a choice; start doing these things for themselves, or try to find ways to get a man to do it for them.

      I’m betting on the second option. And in a world without a generous State women will fall back on their feminine wiles to achieve this. And start acting like women again.

      1. Marshallaw November 28, 2015 at 6:53 am

        Don’t hold your breath…..

      2. Cadders November 29, 2015 at 4:15 am

        This isn’t going to happen in one momentous ‘big bang’ event. It happens over time. It is happening now. From a recent EU Policy document; ‘Elderly Women Living Alone; An Update of their Living Conditions’


        “Trends in the living conditions of elderly women living alone.

        In 2013 36.3 million women were living alone (with no dependents) in the EU28 with a share out of the total female population rising from 14.2% in 2010 to 18.4%; lone men numbered 27.9 million, accounting 15.1% of the total male population (10.8% in 2010). Elderly women represent the largest proportion of women living alone (54.6% in 2013 compared to 54% of 2010) reaching 19.8 million in the EU28.
        Due to the gender gap in life expectancy and general population ageing, the share of elderly women (aged 65 years and over) living alone in the total population is expected to increase in the EU-28 from 10.7% in 2014 to 16% of the total population by 2060 (and from 20.8% to 31.6% of the female population). There is also a secondary ageing process underway: the ageing of the aged. The proportion of elderly women aged 75 and over is expected to reach 10% by 2060 (as compared with the 5.5% of 2014).”

        This was in 2013. When I look around today and see the numbers of women in their 40s who are either unmarried, divorced, single or in uncommitted relationships I suspect the above projections for the increase in elderly women living alone to be extremely conservative.

        And then we get to the rub;

        “People living alone often rely on a single source of income and accordingly are more fragile in coping with socio-economic risks.”

        Let’s guess what that ‘single source of income’ is? In a world where, even after two generations, ’empowered, successful’ women are STILL far less likely to have provided for themselves in their old age, and where fewer and fewer are able to benefit from divorce theft, for most the most likely source of their income is going to be the State.

        “Elderly women living alone (and also men living alone) have on average twice the probability of experiencing poverty than elderly women living in couples, even if the risk has declined since 2008. The share of elderly women living alone reporting difficulties in making ends meet is particularly high (58%) and they have to cope with conditions worse than those reported by other elderly women and lone men.
        Recent developments in the living conditions of elderly lone women also show that the differences between people ‘living alone’ of both sexes and those ‘not living alone’ are increasingly significant, and for women living alone this situation depends more on the events of life, such as separation, divorce, widowhood, than on choices.”

        As an aside, I love that even in an official EU document they present divorce and separation as just ‘happening’ to women and not their choice. Where’s all this female agency they keep promoting?

        Any way, living alone, unsupported, can suck for both men and women, but men are used to leading lives where no-one really cares about them. Women, not so much.

        Men will tend to suck it up and deal with it – we build and own our lives because if we don’t, no one else will do it for us. Women will moan about it and expect someone (read; men) to fix it for them. The difference is that now, fewer and fewer people or organisations care, or are even listening. Many women are getting their first taste of what it is like to live life as a man – ironically, in other words, true equality. They don’t seem to be taking it too well.

        The report also points out that;

        “The current cuts in public services and welfare provisions are likely to have a greater impact on women than men as women are largely employed in the public sector and use public services more than men.”

        For 50 years female empowerment has been funded not by the efforts of the women themselves, but mostly by the State – 75% funded by men. And now the State, and men, are tapped out. More significantly, many of the younger cohort of men are living lifestyles that are vastly less productive than their forebears. There is little new treasure coming down the line for the State to take.

        My point is that there is a childless spinster epidemic on the way. The misery and loneliness of their lives will be reported on and lamented on even as the funds to support them are not there.

        This will not be missed by the younger cohorts of women. The MSM will continue to extort the ’empowered women’ narrative for as long as they can. But when younger women see where that leads – to the hoards of alone, impoverished, childless spinsters all around them, I’m betting women will do what women have always done – whatever it takes to obtain a man’s support. And they all know, deep down, that means behaving in ways that men value – behaving like a women.

        There is no need to hold our breaths. This dynamic is already in play. At this point I don’t think it can be stopped. Interesting times.

      3. Troy March 30, 2016 at 12:06 am

        Aren’t single mothers a product of deadbeat fathers? I know plenty of women who are forced to be sole caregivers, and yet, instead of praising them we insult them like it’s their fault. I doubt most women choose scraps of social assistance over the comfort of being provided for.

      4. Cadders March 30, 2016 at 4:11 am

        Only if you subscribe to the view that women bear no responsibility for anything ‘bad’ that befalls them. It’s not surprising that you provide an example of transferring the blame here onto men – this is after all the trope that feminism has foist upon society at large.

        It is ironic that at it’s heart feminism relies on the most sexist attitude of all; that women have no agency. For you cannot take the position that women are always the ‘victims’ of men unless you believe they are not able to hold their own ground, you cannot continually transfer blame onto men without believing that women are unable to shoulder it themselves, you cannot say that single mothers are the product of deadbeat fathers (for example) without pre-supposing that the mass of women are unable to find within themselves the strength to rise above their ‘victimhood’. All of these feminist tropes, have, at their core, an implicit assumption that women are, in some way, ‘inferior’ to men.

        The truth of course, is that there is enough blame to go around for everyone – men and women. And to understand why you need to take several steps back to see the bigger picture.

        So, why are so many women having children with deadbeat fathers? Well, simply because they can. It has been recognized since the earliest civilizations that left to themselves women will tend to mate with the men who provide the tingles rather than men who will provide for a family. Restrictions were placed on women’s behaviors and freedoms to restrict their options and fathers were charged with vetting their daughter’s suitors. Now, in the name of freedom, those controls have all gone. Women are free to follow the tingles again and men have no authority to advise or police women’s choices. And when those choices go bad women are absolved of any responsibility for the outcomes. Cries of ‘blaming the victim’ drown out any appreciation of how complicit the ‘victim’ was in her problems.

        And on the other side, why are so many men ‘deadbeat’? Well, simply because they can be. Men, broadly, will do whatever it takes to get sex. In a world where the price of sex was marriage and the price of marriage was to be a good provider, most men worked hard and got married. In a world where the price of sex is to provide the biggest tingles many men are no longer ‘preparing’ themselves for marriage. Why should they, they don’t want, don’t have to and are actually in a better position should the relationship dissolve if they have few assets and no marriage license. In weaponising divorce, feminists have ensured that for a man having less, being a ‘deadbeat’ as you put, results in more freedom to walk away. And whether the man is at fault or it was the women’s behavior that caused the relationship to fail, it is almost always the man who is ‘blamed’.

        In fighting to remove the ancient restrictions on female behavior we have unleashed the true feral nature of women. But we have also removed the ancient obligations and expectations on men. Women exercising their new freedoms are cast as ’empowered’ but men exercising theirs is cast as ‘deadbeat’. This is unsustainable and is unraveling in the ways I described above.

        Both men and women’s sexuality need to be controlled for society to thrive. When you control women’s, you automatically control men’s. Right now we have released all controls on women’s whilst trying to put more and more controls on men’s. And always, always, finding ways to blame men for any poor outcomes. There is enough blame to go around. Until women start accepting their fair share, the outcomes for men, but increasingly for women will only get worse. I’m not holding my breath that women, as a group, have the strength to accept responsibility for the part they play in this.

  38. Ace FAce November 26, 2015 at 11:56 am

    Altough your ideas look great in your blog i´m must give you some pills of my country´s reality:

    – It´s impossible to build up a family with only one income.

    – It´s too risky to have only one family member in the labor market due the current economic situation.

    -In case you divorce, you will have to cash up your former wife because she is a housewife, and you are going to do it for lifetime.

    With this scenario why i would like to marry a housewife?

    1. rationalize November 27, 2015 at 8:21 am

      This is a real risk.

      Big male income + housewife = Severe divorce-anal-gang-rape for the man.

      Male househusband + Big Feminist Income = Divorce gets the man *paid*.

      I say .. marry a successful corporate feminist, stay home and take care of her kids, bang the hawt young nanny all day .. and dare the wife to divorce you.

      Remember, in a western divorce, the laziest party gets paid.

      1. jz95 November 28, 2015 at 11:55 am

        I have to say, if all else fails this may be the only way to go moving forward. When/if the east becomes fully westernized/feminized, the only solution may be to simply marry a carousel riding career woman, mooch off her and bang young sluts. You’d also be protected from divorce rape. That may simply be the way of the future, sad though it may be.

      2. rationalize November 28, 2015 at 6:03 pm

        You could also use the money she gives you to buy hookers from time to time – just for the irony.

        Big career woman’s cash used to buy sex for the man.

        If she divorces him because of this, she has to pay him to leave.


  39. Ace FAce November 26, 2015 at 2:40 pm

    How can you build up a family with only one income???? Dealing???? Sounds really good to have a loyal housewife cooking for you and taking care of the kids, but i have no ideahow to afford it in my country.

    Non english speaking
    20% unemployment
    1.000 € average wage
    600€ average rent

    any idea?

    1. Puccalove69 November 29, 2015 at 8:05 am

      This is actually a really good point. Having a parent stay at home is a luxury lots of people can’t afford.

  40. Fred Bishop November 26, 2015 at 8:17 pm

    i just want to have sex with them…

  41. Sam November 27, 2015 at 2:04 pm

    I think what we should be doing is advocating for taxes on sweet foods/drinks, banning crap food from schools, banning gmo food like monsanto, and hell if possible limit fast food restaurants to a much smaller number. I mean, it’s been put in place in England. If you make everybody thin, men will have options and women won’t get away with being cuntish. That or actually pray for an economic collapse to happen sooner in usa, which should improve the dating game for men.

    1. Marshallaw November 28, 2015 at 6:34 am

      Why? These days anyone that indulges in that shit deserves what they get. If anything the individuals that avoid junk ,exercise and eat clean stand out from the crowd of fatties with bad skin and hair.
      I haven’t had a booze in 5 weeks. I feel good, don’t even want a booze now. Diet isn’t 100% but getting there.
      The only thing I see as a problem is taxes going to pay for these ham planets when they end up in hospital. If there was a tax on these foods it could go to pay for their bad eating decisions but I doubt taxes would come down elsewhere. They never do…..

  42. lunacy November 28, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    Why did Reuters published a report about Putin´s daughter 3 days before Bataclan atacks:

    Could it be some sort of pressure on Putin? Mentioning his daughter is quite low.

    About latest James Bond movie, there´s a talk about new world order, microchip being implanted to control Bond and the coincidence the movie had the name of Barbara Lerner Spectre, founding director of Paideia, the European Institute for Jewish Studies in Sweeden.

  43. Joseph Goebells November 29, 2015 at 6:16 am


    Honestly, I don’t see much of a difference between this smaller group and the milieu they criticize. The ideas usually expressed seem to just about plagiarize all of the core tenets of the status quo: Self sacrifice, collectivism, new age spirituality, the idea that there is no right and wrong, no good or bad (I’ve had a lot of sex and I consider that good), arguments from authority, “it’s this way because I say so and accept it or drown in your lifestyle “choices”…

    I think if you asked a feminist this same question, she would definitely say about the differences, “It’s not big at all. It’s actually funny how small it really is.”

    Sometimes i need to read something more intelligent than “shut your mouth when you’re on a date”, “other people’s happiness is more important than your own”, or “love your enemy and let him do whatever he wants with no boundaries or reasonable, justified defense and retaliation”

    Why should I listen to you? What can your websites do for me? How will your words improve my standard of life? What gives you credibility? And of course, what makes your ideas any different at all from the sentiment that you claim to be against?

    There are a few things I have seen that have been applicible and helpful to my selfish pleasure, but the above mentioned similarities have been much too dramatic and at times frankly, even laughably stupid (yoga?).

    I don’t expect for you to modify the website. Whatever changes you have made to your business have obviously yielded a substantial profit, which is a good thing. However, I find it very hard to take this group seriously when they say things like what I have mentioned in a negative light.

    As long as you don’t try to wage war against those of us who are selfish, I would see no reason to fight against this movement.

    Just a small, tiny query.

  44. Puccalove69 November 29, 2015 at 8:00 am

    I agree, but your actions are counter to your aims. You’ve effectively banned us, women, from the Manosphere. I think if any guy responds to this comment he gets banned. I don’t think I’m ‘allowed’ to comment on ROK. Not that you can ban us because the Internet is a public space so trying is kind of dumb. The only reason you even know my gender is because I’ve told you.

    I took the redpill a few months ago after getting dumped. Which is an excellent time to take it. Since then I’ve read all sorts of Manosphere blogs and have even started my own. I love the Manosphere and have found it very helpful and inspiring. I try to respond critically without descending into ‘Shut up! You make me feel bad.’. But there are three things that grate;

    1) Shaming

    2) Misogyny

    3) Hypocrisy

    This blog is an excellent example of the first. I don’t think shaming is an effective tool for getting people to listen or change their behaviour. Also there is something audacious about moral judgement coming from someone like Roosh. If the Dalai Lama wants to judge maybe I’ll listen but it isn’t compelling coming from a cheating, disease spreading, man whore.

    ROK is a better example of the second. I don’t think there is anything inherently misogynistic about examining gender relations from an evolutionary perspective. I don’t even think there is anything misogynistic about pointing out female weakness. But still the misogyny does pervade. I think it’s actually very counterproductive. By claiming we are weaker, dumber and morally vacant you give us an excellent excuse for our bad behaviour.

    This is exactly what we want you to think. Playing dumb and weak gets you to do things for us. A woman’s weakness is her strength. But I do think women are capable of rationality and moral responsibility. Although our current state of development could be likened to a teenager who wants to party all night but have their Dad pick them from the club at 3AM because they ran out of money for a cab.

    Finally the Manosphere is full of hypocrisy. I could give countless examples but since I’ve already ranted in true female form I’ll give one I’ve already discussed, shaming. You hate shaming language. There are whole blog posts and possibly even whole blogs dedicated to the shaming tactics of feminists. You don’t like being called pussies that can’t get laid yet your happy to call us fat sluts. Let’s try not to stoop to the level of feminists, yes?

    REMEMBER: Nothing sells until a pussy gets behind it.

    1. Jones December 2, 2015 at 2:28 am

      I don’t know about that last sentence, but there’s no doubt that there’s some misogyny and some hypocrisy in the manosphere. And it couldn’t hurt to actually get women who agree with the message on board.

      But there are a lot of men who are deeply hurt by the existing system and struggling and want to vent their frustration. I don’t think it’s completely justifiable but I get it. In fact I have been doing it myself.

  45. Rob November 29, 2015 at 11:28 pm

    Roosh, do you have a plan to implement this counter-propaganda or are you developing one?

  46. Maple Curtain November 30, 2015 at 12:39 am

    First, men need to savagely ridicule, for a period of about two decades, all claims that women have “careers” in their non-productive resource destroying jobs.

    It is apparent to all men with brains that that easy, do-nothing women-who-go-to-meetings jobs in big bureaucracies are not careers, and are very counter-productive to society as a whole in that they cause a massive mis-allocation of resources to unproductive female consumers and away from productive job-creating males.

    Until the entire female part of the population is shamed and ridiculed for a generation, the biggest growth industry in the West will continue to be nail salons and day spas.

  47. James December 3, 2015 at 10:50 pm

    but women can’t just be a mother because they have to make money too… The man often isn’t enough of a provider

    1. Steve Johnson August 4, 2016 at 4:14 pm

      Apparently you missed the part where Roosh explains that men can’t earn enough money these days because women flooded the workforce, thus dividing wages (and jobs)–and now it seems like a female dominated work-force running things, where a man (if he’s lucky enough to get hired at all) has to follow the exact political correct consensus at all times, lest he be fired by the mere words of a woman who doesn’t like him

  48. Loner December 7, 2015 at 5:49 pm

    I am reading an incredible book about feminism in SCIENCE called ‘Theory and Reality’ by Peter Godfrey. Women blame men for not being scientists! What a stupid load of crap!

    1. David December 10, 2015 at 7:38 pm

      …she point out the fact that: most men are not alpha males. only beta males see and feel the problem of masculinity (you reading this comment). Alphas just doing their own things without having problem of identity. That is kind of bad news for all people reading this comment. Another point at the end of her talk: if you (man) are not valued, you will become asocial. that makes sense for most of the readers here, right?

  49. hernandayoleary2 December 16, 2015 at 10:03 pm

    I understand where Roosh is coming from, but I can’t risk it, you have a stay at home mom, you are risking a girl fucking men behind your back AND getting divorced raped. I’d prefer she work them take care of the kids, so she is so busy, she doesn’t have time to fuck up

  50. Liam O'Neill December 30, 2015 at 12:11 pm

    For the young un’s the dichotomy of wanting to spread wild oats but hoping to settle in an environment of morality will be difficult to overcome. Roosh and the old boys may be done with their fun but there’s still gonna be a generation of horny bastards feeling the need to get it off their backs

  51. K Skop February 3, 2016 at 1:00 pm

    I am an old fashioned woman who was raised by a mother and father who believed and taught me that caring for your husband and family was paramount. I married young at 19 and had two boys at 23 and 26. I was forced to go to work because my husband only worked intermittently and we frequently could not pay our bills or food. My husband divorced me after 20 years of marriage when he met a younger woman. After 4 years of working outside the home as a single mom due to inadequate and infrequent financial support from my children’s father, I met a wonderful kind man 7 years my senior. He has supported me and encouraged me to remain at home. I care for him, keep a lovely home, prepare home cooked meals and provide him with devoted love and companionship. I could not be happier. Some of your sentiments are radical to me, but the idea of women being the nurturer of their partner and children instead of working outside the home seems more correct to me. Unless the woman has no interest in being a partner or mother in which case – why make herself and others miserable with her lack of feelings for a family? I apologize if my thoughts are unwelcome here, but after reading much of your material, I find your ideas to be quite interesting and thought provoking.

  52. Mirco Abramovitsxh February 9, 2016 at 4:39 pm

    At all points on the list “women” could be exchanged with “man” an the meaning is still true. So, whats your point? Because your “argumentation” is not logical at all.

  53. actuallythis February 13, 2016 at 11:44 am

    Actually, the Economic Policy Institute published in 2015 that the basic family annual budget it would take to support a two-person, two-child family in New York City is $98,722. Based on the average annual inflation rate, the 2016 number has likely exceeded $101,000

    The typical NYC jobs that many assume are logical routes for alpha males fall short of these numbers. According to Glassdoor, the average Bank of America Financial Analyst makes $73,000/yr, the average investment banking financial analyst makes $74,000/yr, and the average Advertising Account Executive salary is $70,000/yr.

    If you think New York is just a glaring exception, the average salary it would take to raise a two-child family in Washington, DC in 2015 is $106,493. Many of the cheaper areas of the country offer much lower salaries, as well as below-standard childhood education.

    So here is the issue that’s being weighed by my illogical little lady brain: I could either keep my job making over $125,000/yr and enjoy the comfortable life I’ve earned myself. Or, I could take your suggestion and quit my job, become a stay-at-home mother, and be doomed for a life of financial strain.

    My mother was an amazing stay-at-home mom that I love and respect. My dad inherited his father’s business which he vigorously worked 11-hour days to grow. His hard work made enough money to support us all and my family was extremely fortunate.

    But the undeniable fact is that even most intelligent, educated, and hard-working men are making less than what it would take to support a family. And financial struggle is just not “fulfilling.”

    1. Steve Johnson August 4, 2016 at 4:10 pm

      The reason men can’t make enough money to support a family is because women like you came along and filled their position.

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  55. person April 19, 2016 at 1:33 am

    Roosh. May the Lord bless you. You are a Hero and a freakin Genus. Just don’t,

  56. Cynthianna Sparre October 2, 2016 at 8:59 pm

    I support your idea in theory; however, I think that women wanting to work is such a complicated thing. I believe it has a great deal to do with the overall materialism of Americans (male and female). I think we need both husbands and wives believing that they can make do with less. If people would be satisfied to live in a smaller home, forgo the latest smartphone, shop their local thrift stores, etc., we would see more mamas at home with their kiddos. Unfortunately, women are trading those precious years for the ability to live their upwardly mobile lifestyles, and I think men are often part of the problem. Thoughts?

  57. Bean Noreen October 16, 2016 at 11:44 pm

    Go to sleep permanently that way u can dream about woman serving u with plates of food and making as many babies as u want and whatever u desire. It’s a win win situation we get what we want and u get what u want. Take at least 6 sleeping pills to experience this and if u take an extra 20 Advil ull get an even better experience.

    1. Penguin October 25, 2016 at 9:21 pm

      i’m such a tolerant progressive, it’s not bullying when i wish death on someone for not sharing my opinion! i’m so tolerant tee hee! grrl power!

  58. Sarah Armstrong December 12, 2016 at 2:37 pm

    LMAO you do know you are all lunatics on here, right? LOL

    1. AskingKnotSeaJoe December 12, 2016 at 2:48 pm

      Sure, woman. Go back to the kitchen

  59. B.E. K. February 2, 2017 at 10:01 am

    Nice Idea. Completely unrealistic, though.

  60. Alwaysyourway May 16, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Have you thought about a dating service for women who believe in our own inferiority? Do these already exist? I’ve recently had my eyes opened and I would like to have somewhere to go online or irl to meet like-minded people.