What A Time To Be 17 Years Old

My little brother is a senior in high school. When I was his age, it was a no-brainer to go to college. At a cost of about $4,000 a year, it turned out being a wise investment because once month after graduation I was fully employed with a good salary.

Times are different now. Tuition at my old school, the University Of Maryland, has more than doubled to $10,000 a year, and jobs for graduates are scarce but for a few specialties. My brother was planning on coasting in college and not declaring a major until the last moment, but I told him how dangerous that would be for him. If he coasted into the wrong major, which is what coasters tend to do, he would face a debt load of at least $40,000. I told him that a lot of kids are graduating with marginal degrees and no job prospects, becoming slaves to the system.

“If you want to go to college,” I told him, “pick a major where there will be a job waiting for you.” My advice was simple, but among high school guidance counselors and parents of his peers, it’s blasphemy. They still have the belief that “everyone must go to college no matter what.” Even my dad, who is well aware of deteriorating economic conditions, stubbornly clings to this holy mantra, pushing my brother into attending college without accounting for what he wants to study.

For the past year, I’ve been trying to help my brother find interests or passions that could translate into a career. The problem is that he was born in the age of distraction. His brain is wired for the internet, Youtube, and Facebook, so it’s hard for him to focus on difficult tasks without wanting to check his internet accounts and get the dopamine hit of something new but insignificant. Nothing is more interesting to him than the computer or television screen.

I told him that a STEM degree would be his best bet if he went to college, even though I know it’s not bulletproof. He would have to be the best at what he attempts. He initially told me he may want to be a computer programmer.

“Have you ever programmed before?” I asked, already knowing the answer.

“No.”

“Well, do you want to pay $40k and 4 years to find out if it’s something you want to do for the rest of your life?”

I bought him a beginners’ programming book and told him to try it out for half an hour a day. He did, for two weeks.

“There are a million kids programming right now, writing apps and making web sites, and they aren’t even old enough to go to college. How will you keep up with them and earn a good income if you don’t want to learn in your spare time?” So programming was out.

Then he declared an interest in writing. I told him to create a blog and start writing. You definitely don’t need to go to college for that. His writing is strong for his age, and he seems to enjoy it, but after three posts, the blog went dormant.

Instead of experimenting with new things to find his passion, he rather play video games over the internet with his friends that live just a couple blocks away. He looks forward to graduating high school not to enter the adult world, but to play more games. I can’t blame him, because I definitely wasn’t motivated at 17, but it’s not 1997 anymore. There’s no more room for loafers to succeed. I had to tell him what was in store.

“Right now everything is provided for you. Dad pays for food, shelter, and internet. You have air conditioning, laptop, tablet, X Box, smart phone, everything. You don’t understand that these things require money and therefore work. You’re thinking that once you graduate, life gets easy and you can enjoy your toys, but it will get much harder, and it will stay hard for many years until you establish yourself. You want to graduate high school to relax, but you’re actually relaxing right now, and it won’t get any easier.

“One of two things will happen. First is you get into college, pick a good major, study for four years, then get a job. Second is you pick a manual labor job that you may not like and stick with that until you figure things out. Problem is Dad won’t let you sit around the house all day and play games, so no matter what you will have to work hard.

“If you truly don’t know what you want to do, which seems to be the case, put college on hold. Don’t go unless you are sure, because otherwise it could be the biggest mistake of your life when in four years you will be no closer to knowing what you want and then become a slave to the banks paying off a 20-year loan. It’s better to get any job, even one that you hate, than to be a slave.

“It’s not fair that you have to make this decision now, but life, as you will learn, isn’t fair. If you don’t know what you want, experiment as cheaply as possible before making a big investment in your future.”

Even if my brother majors in computer programming, and does well in it, how will he be able to compete with the low-priced foreign guys on Elance that I hire myself? How can he know which job won’t be outsourced to Bangalore or which upcoming technology won’t render him position obsolete?

“It seems that the only jobs that are safe,” I said, “are ones that require your body and hands to be present. These are jobs like plumber, electrician, mechanic, truck driver, mover, oil rig worker, construction worker, and taxicab driver. In knowledge economies like ours, the safest job is one which can’t be transmitted over the internet. Simply look back 50 years to see which jobs existed. If they still exist today, even after the internet, that means they are insulated from technology. They have a good chance of existing in the next 50 years. Your life won’t be glamorous with these jobs, but at least you can eat and put a roof over your head instead of depending on me, dad, or the government.”

When I look at my little brother, I see myself. I see a kid who is doing well in school just to please his parents. I see a kid who doesn’t know what he wants to be and who wants to finally finish high school to have fun. The biggest difference is that I was lucky to graduate during a time when a university education was cheap and jobs were plentiful. I could afford to make what turned out to be a career mistake, but he can’t. He has to grow up a lot faster than I did, and I can only wonder what will become of him as he embarks on this difficult journey.

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randomsurf
randomsurf
6 years ago

Nice post.

A PROgrammer
A PROgrammer
6 years ago

Good post but don’t scare him away from a CS degree. Even with outsourcing programmers are still in high demand, especially on the east coast.

Jens
Jens
6 years ago
Reply to  A PROgrammer

That’s the impression I’ve had too. If you look at dice.com you’ll see tons of jobs and a lot of people in the business just adviced me to take the degree because of raising demands (which I probably will).

UncleElmer
UncleElmer
6 years ago
Reply to  A PROgrammer

It is imperative for the aspiring compooterist to couple programming skills with expertise in a specialty area like finance or physics. Otherwise you will be sucking ass at Encorpera while fending off attacks from up-and-coming lady STEM co-workers.

A PROgrammer
A PROgrammer
6 years ago
Reply to  UncleElmer

Good point. Domain knowledge (in whatever field you happen to work) is what takes a programmer from useful to indispensable.

TJ
TJ
6 years ago

Software will continue to eat the world and automate everything. I would scratch truck and cab driver off that list. Experiments in robotic truck driving fleets are already happening. Google is also working on robo-taxis.

http://www.overdriveonline.com/robotic-trucks-set-to-push-drivers-out-of-a-job/

http://www.ctvnews.ca/autos/report-google-to-build-a-fleet-of-robo-taxis-1.1427735

lolz
lolz
6 years ago

He could also become a looser like you,run away abroad,teach english for 2€/hour and get ocassional 6 1-2 times a year.

UncleElmer
UncleElmer
6 years ago
Reply to  lolz

Sure beats working with “software engineers” at Encorpera.

Jeb
Jeb
6 years ago
Reply to  lolz

Get a dictionary and learn how to spell. Roosh earned a science degree and worked in his chosen field until he decided to break free and live abroad, where he writes and teaches for a living, travels, meets a variety of people, and beds high-caliber women. He has learned several languages, acclimated himself to a number of foreign cultures, continued his self-education, kept himself in shape, and dealt with loneliness and homesickness. He’s admirably self-motivated and self-sufficient. I don’t know of many guys who have the cojones to undertake any of the above.

What do you do?

andrewjude
andrewjude
6 years ago

If your brother goes to an Ivy it doesn’t really matter what he studies even if it is a soft subject i.e arts/humanities/social sciences.

In all honesty you are correct though, he doesn’t need to rush his decision in the event he genuinely doesn’t know.

UncleElmer
UncleElmer
6 years ago

Excellent post Roosh and exactly what I have been trying to tell my sons Shemp and Hermann.

As an older man I face the same forces and have only survived through developing marketable skills and the salesmanship to acquire work. Frankly it’s even worse for me as I get “age discrimination”. Attempting to find work through standard channels of resumes and HR interactions is a humiliating waste of time so I have to sell my craft directly to the real players. I describe the methods in my Spearhead essay “Employment Game”.

peteonrails
6 years ago

Guide him into a field where he can start a business that he will be successful with. Plumbing is fine, but not if you’re going to be a plumber for 40 years. Own the plumbing company. Working your ass off so that someone else can get all the money is still a kind of slavery.

UncleElmer
UncleElmer
6 years ago
Reply to  peteonrails

I hired a plumber to lay some pipe for me. He charged $100/hr.

But his legs were covered with horrible purple splotches that he said were the result of breathing pipe dope for 20 years.

UncleElmer
UncleElmer
6 years ago
Reply to  peteonrails

I hired a plumber to lay some pipe for me. He charged $100/hr.

But his legs were covered with horrible purple splotches that he said were the result of breathing pipe dope for 20 years.

thecaptainpower
6 years ago
Reply to  peteonrails

I doubt there are any unemployed accountants in the DC metro area. Accounting is boring but almost guaranteed employment. H&R block hires thousands of workers every tax season with barely any creditentials

WayneEarl
WayneEarl
6 years ago

you would be wrong.

of all knowledge workers, accountants are the easiest to replace. it’s called Microsoft Excel

thecaptainpower
6 years ago
Reply to  WayneEarl

no way….My old man is an accountant and half of my friends. Accounting ain’t going anywhere..

Pablo Martin Podhorzer
Pablo Martin Podhorzer
6 years ago
Reply to  WayneEarl

You always need a chump to sign all those fake books. Ask the guys in Goldman Sachs if they feel poor.

Chase Steel
Chase Steel
6 years ago

The military, especially a relatively easy job, is the credited option for a high school graduate now. You will get out in 4 years and then go to college on Uncle Sam’s dime; you’ll be older than the other students, but not so much older that you’ll be out of place. Military service on a college application, not to mention taking the SAT as a 22 year old, is a huge admissions advantage over the typical 18 year old. And if he did actually like it, he could then go the officer route after 4 years of fucking around in college for free assuming no stupid mistakes.

Slashfund
Slashfund
6 years ago
Reply to  Chase Steel

Fighting the war against “sexual harassment” of empowered female soldiers

TheOverwatch
TheOverwatch
6 years ago
Reply to  Slashfund

This is the route I went. I served 5 years, got out, went to community college for a year(to be sure it’s what I really wanted) and then applied to the “big” universities in my home state. As a veteran with good grades from community college, I got accepted into everywhere I applied. I figured, the universities knew I could pay(GI BILL) and the grades were probably a secondary consideration. A lot of schools these days have relaxed admissions standards because they want to get a hold of those federally subsidized education loans.

Patrick Henry was Right
Patrick Henry was Right
6 years ago
Reply to  Chase Steel

I want you to know I respect enlisted men and most officers. But the leadership at the top in the Mitary are a bunch of Harvard and Georgetown socialists who would sell their mothers to the Illuminati Zionist bankers they work for.

The US military serves now to make private corporations rich in the name of American ideals. Read marine Corps Major general Smedeley D. Butlers book ‘War is a racket’ it was a rip off back even in WWI and all this crap- the income tax, fiat money printing Federal Reserve, bogus wars AIPAC started are all Zionist NWO Illuminati games carried out by shabbus goy
Masonic leaders and ill informed snowed over grunts. Read the blog
My name is Joe Cortina for an education for a combat vet spec opsOfficer business man turned Political blogger for the who’s and why of this bs game today.

Adrian Johnson
Adrian Johnson
6 years ago

I would try and instill into your younger brother the importance of picking a rigorous major in the STEM area. While it doesn’t guarantee a job (being able to sell oneself is) STEM degrees are a sign of intelligence and can net him a job somewhere that may have everything or nothing to do with what he learned.

The point is, tell him to avoid the pointless liberal arts degrees and to find a niche where he enjoys what he does and happens to also make the most amount of money. I’d suggest going into IT and the like. I’ve programmed and find it interesting, but it’s not my cup of tea. He should go down the comp sci route only for the ability to land a decent paying job out of school.

And teach him game. Game helps you sell yourself. Getting a job is a lot like dating.

thecaptainpower
6 years ago

I recommend accounting or medicine. Times have definately changed. My senior year of college (2001) i worked part time for 6 an hour plus tips, and used to go joy riding in my car with 1.25 a gallon gas. 16 years later gas has tripled, tuition up 5x and nyc tolls up 3x. I dont know how kids can survive. Also get ur brother into the gym, and throw him a couple hundred for spring break if his grades are good.

Stephen
Stephen
6 years ago

Yeah, go into medical school. Instead of 40k in student loans he will have 150k. Brilliant captainpower!

thecaptainpower
6 years ago
Reply to  Stephen

Do you know of any unemployed Doctors? Graduate school cost me $35K, but I got a $15K raise…..Tuition costs aren’t everything if you can justify it.

drkennethnoisewater
drkennethnoisewater
6 years ago

Has Obamacare kicked in yet? Doctors will either end up working for a pittance or, if they’re exceptional enough to still have a private practice, stop taking insurance of any form and work for cash.

Read Frotz Springmeiers Books
Read Frotz Springmeiers Books
6 years ago

If this County still had a spine we’d tell the Republiscum HMOs on their corporate welfare and Demoncrap party’s Obummer care/ socialist death panels to go jump in the lake. We need freedom and because we love XBox more than fighting for our rights- we don’t have many freedoms left. Always remember its khazar ‘Jewish’ Illimunati finance that’s behind it and their shabbus got Mason errand boys. Read Fritz Spring meiers Bloodlines of The Illuminati and Anything by Texe Mars.

Ps- any Doctor with hf a business model ought to make $350k/ yer or double or triple that (basic office 350 internist 700 plastic surgeon 1mil).

Ara
Ara
6 years ago

I’m wondering what are these death panels you speak of? And what is Obama care, can you elaborate? I know I could look it up, but I want to hear it from someone who knows what he’s talking about.

fearsometycoon
fearsometycoon
6 years ago

HMOs were introduced in the Clinton administration IIRC.

Westsider
Westsider
6 years ago

A decrease in medical compensation would mostly be a good thing.

There is no reason doctors should make 4-40 times median income, if not for the AMA’s artificial restriction on the number of spots in US medical schools.

There would be plenty of doctors originating from the [hint: disproportionately AAPI, of which I am one,] population of California, and its public university system alone, if not for the interference of the AMA in the market for a US medical education.

gaoxiaen
gaoxiaen
6 years ago
Reply to  Westsider

The AMA is little more than the doctors’ labor union so, of course they are a barrier to market entry. It’s interesting that the Marines were sent into Grenada to rescue American medical students.

Slashfund
Slashfund
6 years ago

Rather suspicious when college grad “knowledge workers” recommend manual labor to others. Resource extraction and the building trades are certainly useful, but they are physically demanding and subject to tight demand and boom-bust cycles. Professional drivers will be decimated in the near future by robot vehicles. If he’s not dedicated to STEM I’d recommend a cozy government job like police, an overpaid position where men are still respected, and which will teach moral flexibility beneficial for Game.

Roosh_V
Roosh_V
6 years ago
Reply to  Slashfund

You’re right, it is suspicious that someone who spent 10 years in microbiology stopped doing it for a career that didn’t need a college education. Manual labor is a good avenue for those who are unsure of what to commit to while also giving you the liberty to pursue other interests.

Anon
Anon
6 years ago
Reply to  Roosh_V

Roosh my younger sister is 16 and will be a senior next fall. I’m going to pick up a copy of worthless for her and suggest something similar. Since she’s a girl though, I doubt she can decide what she wants to do while doing manual labor.

How about serving or bartending (the latter brings up some questions though) until she decides what she wants to do?
In the meantime, she can intern or shadow in different industries to get a low risk picture of what the field is like.
Another idea is to get an associates from community college out of the way, take a break if she still doesnt know, then go to college later.

College brah
College brah
6 years ago
Reply to  Roosh_V

Oh how jealous I am of people in Murka who don’t get paid $0.95 an hour for manual labor… It might sound that job prospects are shitty, but you are guys have it way easy bro.

And job security FYI is being in the top 15% in whatever field you choose to do. People are NOT entitled to a job just because they have a bachelors from some random school with a 2.5 GPA. There’s a reason no University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign computer science grad with a 3.2 GPA can’t get a job paying less than $70,000 right after graduation.

Takeaway: develop self discipline and work hard to be in the upper regions of your pyramid. You are only as good as your credentials and skills.

anon1
anon1
6 years ago
Reply to  Slashfund

>a cozy government job

exactly part of the problem.

people get so fucking disillusioned they give up and give a good old suck of the corpogovernment teet because it seems to be an excellent short term fix to an inherently long term problem

TheOverwatch
TheOverwatch
6 years ago

I too have a brother who’s a junior in high school right now. All the things you describe, I see in my own brother. Life is one endless house party, with school and the occasional chores interspersed. He doesn’t have a clue what he’s going to do after high school. I was much the same way. Luckily I stumbled, really, into the United States Marine Corps.

In my opinion, all fresh high school graduates with average to below average grades, should NOT attend a major university. They should first go to community college to really find out if they want to do 4 more years of academics. I met a lot of students at my university(University of Connecticut) that came straight from high school, attended for 3 semesters, flunked out, and then were saddled with $10,000+ in student loans. They ended up with a large bill and no degree. This happens a lot, and the universities hide it.

Robert K.
6 years ago

A suggestion for your dad.

He should tell your brother to find a part time job and ask him for a monthly rent to help with food and stuff… The rent should be symbolic but high enough for your brother to not waste away what he will earn from his after school job.

Your brother will learn from the working experience. He will also learn that what he now takes for granted has a cost in real life.

Your father should save the money he gets from your brother and give them back to him the day he will leave the nest. Of course your brother should not know this.

anon1
anon1
6 years ago
Reply to  Robert K.

>Your father should save the money he gets from your brother and give them back to him the day he will leave the nest. Of course your brother should not know this.

i’ve known of many a man thats doing just this idea, its a great motivator.

if i ever have kids, i think i’ll do the same with them about starting up a business in summer vacations.

they’re given a set amount that they need to make bigger, if they try and fail, no biggie, they learned and are accountable, they get the same amount next summer to try again.

if they take the money and do fuck all? no money the following summer.

the biggest mistake my admittedly awesome Dad did was think that college/uni solved everybodies problems [and that we’d all get jobs].

nope you gotta work, you gotta strive, you gotta be ballsy and take calculated risks. thats how improvement is made.

no one especially in this day and age is going to hand a young man a silver platter of money or make them into a rent boy [fucking disgusting in my opinion] for hire of some older woman.

The second biggest lie i was ever told was to work smart not hard.

bullshit. smart is endgame stuff. most of the time we dont try enough things out to be capable of developing smarts. we have mental theoretical constructs [more commonly known as mental masturbation] of success, women, riches, everything, but we make no hard and fast steps towards that.

we’re a lazy generation [the 20 somethings] and each successive generation is getting even more lazier. technology has innoculated the mind from hard effort and striving in something noble. its much easier to jack off all day to kink.com and play gta V than to develop a craft, skill, business or go out and find pussy to fuck.

its a sad state of affairs, we’ve exchanged our freedom ot thought and creativity for a no longer steady pay cheque, huge credit and luxury bullshit goods.

hard work first. get used to it as the fucking default, then go crazy with smarts. most of the time when people say they’re working smart, they’re actually not working at all and just doing a bunch of pseudobullshit that doesnt help.

protect and innoculate your mind from bullshit and force yourself to do some hard work in something noble with an endgame in mind.

Nemo V
Nemo V
6 years ago
Reply to  Robert K.

Never would I think that my own brother posts about me! I do have an internship, in which i get paid $9 bucks an hour. Unlike how i’m described in this article, this year i’ve gained so many volunteer hours, as well as ties to the community. About my dad, though, is that he tends to be hypocritical. I’ve approached him several times in the past 3 years about job offers all over our area, but he shot me down because “It’s not for you”. I get called out on being lazy when my parents actually prevent me from being productive, citing my “safety” is a priority. Being boxed up is no way to live. The reason i’m on the web so often at home is because i dont want to hear a lecture of how if i’m not careful, i can end up in a street gang. Regarding my future: with my brothers help, i feel like no matter what path i choose i’ll be fine for the most part.

Thanks for your suggestion!

fearsometycoon
fearsometycoon
6 years ago
Reply to  Nemo V

Sounds like you’re on your way to ending up in a street gang. j/k

wargasm
wargasm
6 years ago

As a recent college grad, I have seen what choices have lead to success for my peers and I with regard to college major and career choice.

The majors that lead to gainful employment were engineering, finance, accounting, and supply chain management. Almost all other majors are either useless to job acquisition or require further education beyond a bachelors.

As far as career choices go for college-educated men, the military and police are two good choices. You don’t need to necessarily be in a combat position in the military, and you will automatically start off as an officer with a good salary. You will also be hired preferentially as a veteran in any job you apply to after the military.

Also don’t forget to take languages in college. Its one of the few things you’ll learn there that will stick with you, and it’ll be much easier to learn in college than afterwards on your own and in your limited free time.

Pablo Martin Podhorzer
Pablo Martin Podhorzer
6 years ago

Or he could leave the country and go to a First World nation where he can study whatever his hearth desires and still find a job.

Brave Jew World
Brave Jew World
6 years ago

Really…
Telling Team AmeriKa to piss off doesn’t sound like that bad of an idea.

He might as well live in France where he can get longer vacations and not have to deal with jack boot thug ‘Patriot’ Act Gestappo treatment.

That’s what’s sick about the USSA- were socialist all but in name sans the corporate welfare and self protecting pemof legislative dung the corporations and their lobbyists create to have no competition as a their blue blood Fortune 1000 in feeding Illuminati crowd.

Remember in Americastan-
You can say your free just don’t act like you’re free.

awakened
awakened
6 years ago

The only problem is the countries you describe will never let a first world foreigner be included in the socialist system. Amerika is the only country on earth that allows that except amerika only allows third world turds to immigrate. An ameriikan simply can not move to switzerland and get a job and become swiss.

Pablo Martin Podhorzer
Pablo Martin Podhorzer
6 years ago
Reply to  awakened

Not to Switzerland (a notorious difficult country to emigrate), but yes to others. Not to speak of the crazy opportunities Third World countries´ stockmarkets offer. This month the main electric company of Argentina tripled (TRIPLED) its stock value. The past month another energy company from here doubled it. Rinse and repeat.

I have triple citizenship, so I really don´t think too much about “escaping” somewhere since I can go to lots of places just with a ticket.

awakened
awakened
6 years ago

I think you are talking out of your ass a little bit. All European countries are very difficult for an American to emigrate to and become a citizen. Your example of France offers nothing over the USA. France is 100% NWO just in case you haven’t noticed. Tax rates in France exceeding 100% for upper income earners? You do read the news don’t you?

Pablo Martin Podhorzer
Pablo Martin Podhorzer
6 years ago
Reply to  awakened

Such luck that I am not an upper income earner then. Have you been to France? Outside certain suburbs, it is bourgeois paradise there. Every little thing is beautiful. I prefer Spain for the lifestyle (well, not right now), but France is an amazing country, where most of your needs are covered since the moment you are born, and then you are free to pursue other things outside of money, like, mmm, interests.

NWO, what is that? Because if that is “New World Order”, well, the French are very nationalistic.

Disabuse
Disabuse
6 years ago

While college many not be a good value and provides far fewer income guarantees compared to a few decades ago… what is the alternative? Menial jobs are no more secure, and wasting a few years subsisting on low-end jobs with no career prospects won’t get one far either. We’re living in more uncertain times overall.

Those menial jobs requiring your body and hands to be present are very likely to be automated within a few years. Taxi driver? Are you serious? Google already has a working prototype of a self-driving car, once it hits the market (within 10 years unless there are legal obstacles), that line of work is history. Other menial jobs like plumber or oil rig worker may hold on for some time due to less investment in automation (compared to driving), but they’re hardly a safe 40-50 year career choice (note that retirement ages will rise).

Programming is still a fairly safe choice. Of course, you need some natural aptitude for it, which most people do not have. While you’re in competition with 3rd world freelancers, many of them are not particularly competent, have communication issues… and ultimately, due to global marketplace/demand, good ones are not all that cheap. In addition, there’s not much preventing an American programmer from moving to a place with lower cost of living to remain more competitive (abroad if need be).

Sign It
Sign It
6 years ago

This is interesting-

The system sucks, the prices the charge for group speak bureaucracy aka eduction is criminal, and we need a revolution to get the bankster crime syndicate of our backs.

My suggestions-
1) what’s the dudes birth sign? If your an Aries your probably in your face intense (make a good military guy or private security) a Gemini ( your smart charming intelligent good salesman, creative writer, etc) a Virgi (carig and smart- a social
Worker, teacher, self help guru, psychologist, preacher), a Scorpio (methodically obsessively analytical- scientist, photographer) a Taurus (clever and charming- financial advisor, lawyer).

anonymous
anonymous
6 years ago
Reply to  Sign It

Are you trying to run astrology game on the commenters here, brah?

Or do you have a vagina yourself?

Play It
Play It
6 years ago
Reply to  anonymous

Not at All.

Maybe your a repressed homo talking that kind of silliness. I’m a thinking man and I guarantee if I know someone’s sign I can predict their behavior.

If you saw me in person you wouldn’t talk that nomsemse because I don’t think I know I’m in the upper echelon of physical skills. My good friend was ranked 4th in Miami kickboxing in his weight class and knows he couldn’t likely
Take me.

But your a hater and you don’t matter. Your a keyboard jockey. This pathetic garbage would never happen face to face. I know this.

awakened
awakened
6 years ago
Reply to  Play It

Don’t talk shit about being a badass and then call someone a keyboard jockey. That makes you a keyboard jockey numnuts.

Your badass “upper echelon” physical skills are easily negated with a hot slug of lead so chill the fuck out and read some astrology books between kickboxing death matches.

Name callings for the playgrnd
Name callings for the playgrnd
6 years ago
Reply to  awakened

What do you think I have with me Girl Scout cookies- yo don’t
Have a monopoly on force jerk. Why you hating on Astrology on here anyway? I won’t respond further to a silly jerk like you. You aren’t worth the time-
If
You were t hating on people’s ideas none
Of this hate talk would be going on. Recognize and learn something your tone sounds
Like your from a Alabama trailer park. Rednecks are morons who use terms like mum it’s so go watch some NASCAR and leave the thinking to the adults because name callig is for the playground.

awakened
awakened
6 years ago

“yo don’t” is not coherent english. Neither is “hating on”. Your urban miami latin american english is disgusting. Remember English is still a first world language. I know it is far more complicated than your native tongue but try to learn the basics so you don’t sound so goddamn stupid.

See you wednesday and try not to leave grass clipping on my driveway. Also tell the guys on your landscaping crew to quit trying to steal my stuff.

g ron
g ron
6 years ago
Reply to  awakened

This is laughable on so many levels. My Cubans friends would laugh you out of Westchester.

You know there are so many Latin millionaire businessmen here and on regular streets too-my friends mom, his brothers, the neighbors-all millionaires-all down to Earth-all loyal to each other and their friends, and la gente.

Iv’e seen when gringos make it-most of them would sell out their own Mother or Kids to have it all. THe pride and racism of the gringo is why things like La Raza and Azatlan will take over this Country from you arrogant land grabbing theifs and liars.

Personally, I don’t know how black men tolerate you-if I was black i’d make Malcom X look like a 1st Grader my hunger from your injustice would be so strong.

As a Latin, me and my family have dealt with so many silly prejudice Gringos over the years. Me and all my cousins have at least busted the face and ground and pounded one evil, hating racist gringo a piece with all that sick racist crap they spew out. Most of you don’t have the courage to say racial slurs, those that do usually lose. Look at pro fighting boxing and MMA its all blacks and Latins with belts in almost every division, and you gringos sit around and worship NFL which is like a black athletes WHo’s Who. I guess you can always dream, huh?

Another thing is you gringos are experiencing a sociological phenomenon right now-you work for the Elite global Khazars from Georgia between the Black and Caspian Sea who call themselves Jews and are really just Eastern Europe con men like the Rothschild Illuminati family, and youv’e lied and betrayted Asians, Latinos, Blacks, and even each other all on your arrogant, disgusting ego ride for selfish control.

As a Latin man I and most of the World are sick of your selfish, evil tyranny.And taking God’s name in vain like you did is miserably sick. You need spiritual help and repentance.

As far as lawn boy Latins-there are plenty of Mexicans in SoCal in places like Chino Hills who do that who are good, hard working family people, Iv’e been to the barrio there, and you and I both know you’d never talk that way to their face like that. If anything you’d probably have your lips quivering and secretly envy how they are more masculine than you are when you spoke to them. At least the Cubans would be nicer and just laugh at you for your ignorant hateful clown talk because they’d be busy day trading, writing an academic research paper, or running their successful office like so many of them do.

I bet you hate black people too. Iv’e got several black friends and I know an ignorant, hating racist like you would never talk that lame gringo Brooks Brother, wearing, detestable “Nigger and Spic” crap to any of our faces. The truth is wer’e better athletes, come from beautiful, sunny places, are loyal to our people, and mind our own business. You gringos should take a clue- we have the beaches, women, and culture all the gringos come to if not abroad in Latin America or Europe than to Miami, Vegas, So Cal, and Texas. You gringos deceitful ways wont last forever. Your population is shrinking while we grow. I’m here to communicate and learn. I hope you’ll learn to genuinely respect and appreciate other cultures instead of spew ethnic slurs out of hatred.

GrammerNazi
GrammerNazi
6 years ago

What the? Did you outsource this post or something?

There are like 5-6 grammatical errors. I don’t even think the first paragraph makes any sense at all.

Morrison
Morrison
4 years ago
Reply to  GrammerNazi

“There are like 5-6 grammatical errors. I don’t even think the first paragraph makes any sense at all.”

That’s because you’re a retard pretending to know you’re talking about.

Tron
Tron
6 years ago

I was a junior when the recession hit. It single handedly destroyed my dads job in the housing business. Now due to that and his poor financial decisions, hes living in a small condo with barely enough to get by. This scared the shit out of me. There were no jobs in my town and I was starting to realize that college was a dumb idea especially since I didnt know what I wanted out of life. I joined the air force and its probably the best choice I could have made. I am doing a lot better off than my peers and the money im saving from each check will help me when I decide to get out and figure out what my next route is.

anonymous
anonymous
6 years ago
Reply to  Tron

You were a junior in high school or a junior in college?

If college, then I hope you completed the college degree. By that point, one more year of study and another $10,000 in loans is worth it to complete a degree so you can qualify for all sorts of positions (military or civilian) that give you credit for the piece of paper.

Tron
Tron
6 years ago
Reply to  anonymous

high school

To Little Brother
To Little Brother
6 years ago

The college game is such a rip off. It’s Expensive Orwellian indoctrination for wage slave Alavert at best.

The best game
Going is an MBA or finance degree from Harvard Vanderbilt
Stanford Wharton etc. honestly it would be worth it to sit on your butt fir a year or two and get a through the roof ACT and GMAT score to go somewhere like that as opposed to roting in mediocrity at State U. The contacts from upper echelon schools alone could establish you and since you guys are Middle Eastern play the race card too man.

My advice to little man on the hippie track is-
1- maybe work for a cruise line or International Airline to travel and see and meet new kinds of people.

2- do a service oriented field in an exotic place like the Peace corp or a missionary or charity organization abroad.

3- if there’s a subcture he digs (trance music, indie rock, progressive metal, etc.) go and work in an artsy bohemian place like Portland,Or Seattle, Wa (for prog rock) Greenwich Village NYC (for indie rock) Berlin or London (for electronic dance music), Etc. I’m a musician so hanging in he prog rock environment wod serve me well as a guitarist of 16 years.
As much as he digs computers he should get some
logic X or Reason and make some cool Pa Van Dyk trance
Or G Unit rap if he can’t at play an instrument.

4) hobo around Europe and couch surf and that other site where farmers in Wine country will let you work on their farm for room and board. How cool would that be in the majestic mountains of Northern Italy or the coastal beauty of Southern Greece?

5-he shod pick a language, culture, country, or city he just really digs and do all be can go immerse himself in it. If he could get student loans or grants and go to college and Europe (Poznan- beautiful Slavic girl land) and learn about a new culture and be educated very well. I know a consultant who has a bachelors from Austria who makes way more than most Americans. He works in trusts and asset protection though.

6- if he loves nature he shod get a job centered around that. Ill never forget my time in Newport Beach, CA where I saw a guy who was a life guard late 30s ripped abs and a brown hair version of Spiccoli from Fast Times in Ridgemont High. The guy was happy to be alive, funny, relaxed, and his morning office situation was watching retires and tourists walk around on a balmy Pacific Beach. Think about how miserae and I creative most peoe are in Suburand USA by that age.

My point you g dude-
Seize the day. Follow your heart. You’ve got years to get brought that gray boring mind control maze that leads to suburban mediocrity called college. Go travel and see far lands. Forget about slumming it in suburbia at the price of your self worth. It took your brother and me tears to figure this out.

Ps- if you can save up 100k and sale
You could make more money installing flooring Kr doing kitchen renovations with your crew than most peoe who sit half a decade rotting in a class room to spen four decades
Wasting in an office. Live while you can your body is on your side right now.’screw the mass consensus as lit as bureaucrat colleges exist off of federal loans you could always get loaned up and go to school and can he your head high by adventuring and exploring right now as opposed to havig debt and job conformity at just he young age of 22 or 23 like most grads.

Roosh_V
Roosh_V
6 years ago

Great advice for young men.

Blessings To Little Brother
Blessings To Little Brother
6 years ago
Reply to  Roosh_V

I’ve lived it brother. I only wish younger guys haven’t felt the agony I have in my life. I hope he doesnt suffer like i have so inhope he will apply my advice. My next advice go to mass this Sunday. God is good. Those Latin and European gis are good women because the Carholic and Orthodox Church taught them to love God their famy and their fellow man. Peace be with you.

Blessings to Little Brother
Blessings to Little Brother
6 years ago

Ps-
I’ve seen what Feminist Americans do vs. other women
My feni ask mom left
My family after she ran through millions my Dad earned while my Carholic Brazilian grandma- my Dads mom bakes me muffins, prays for and with me every day, and wod take a bullet for us and I would her. Loyalty instilled by a love of God is priceless. Spoed materialist godless feminists are a living nightmare when they turn on you. My Catholic Brazillian grandma is an angel. This is a micro study of gringo feminist versus old school raised women when they age too. Woe to the Zionist monsters who created Communism and feminism.

Jeb
Jeb
6 years ago

Amen, brother. There are ways to survive, if you put your mind and energy into it. As a “useless” bohemian type, I parlayed my literature and philosophy BA into freelance technical writing, which has enabled me to travel, live abroad, and pursue my art. No society-sanctioned accoutrements such as ladder-climbing career, big house, expensive car, kids, etc., but rather well-paying work without office politics, great digs all over Europe and Asia, and very fine friends. Young guys, your youth is fleeting. That vast gray mediocrity of office and suburbia is deadly, and usually inescapable. Put down your gadgets and games and go get your lives.

The Quiet Rebel
The Quiet Rebel
6 years ago

Most young men go to college because they are worried about what the parents and rest of society will think of them if they do not go, and this whole “you gotta go to college” advocation is like a mental illness; nobody wants to admit that times have drastically changed in America. Lets also add in the idea that some guys are reluctant to take a profession that does not have the prestige that helps in getting them laid. Lets face it, when a skag asks a man what he does for a living, she’s interested in getting an idea of his income, as well as status. So being a carpenter or plumber may not fulfill the status requirement for today’s hormonal driven animal. The way around that is simply tell the chick you do not have a job because you recently just got out of prison. That will get her wet between the legs.

anon1
anon1
6 years ago

i agree with bonecrckers theory that the only women that get wet by criminality, are A) fucked up slaggy women in the first place [may look hot, but mentally damaged/broken home] .
B) in love with the romanticised idea of a badboy than the real life wifebeating, fuck’n’leave mentality.

Pablo Martin Podhorzer
Pablo Martin Podhorzer
6 years ago

Salamanca all the way. It is a center of the Erasmus (“orgasmus”) party scene.

sensible senior
sensible senior
6 years ago

MBA salaries are going down. You also need commensurate work experience or you are going to start at the BOTTOM in high paying but very unstable jobs.

I have friends at HBS, GSB, LBS. The ones who did the best were the ones who:

a) Go to a TOP undergrad
b) Work for a great firm (industry is irrelevant)
c) Work for 5 years solid (no company change, only promotion)

THEN go to Business School.

The kids who did 2-3 years of work experience even if it is GS/McK can only find themselves moving up ONE level. Which they could’ve done without the MBA by just staying at work.

Please do not recommend MBAs. Going for a degree that puts you $150,000 in the hole, then forces you to take a job in banking/consulting to pay back those debts is stupid. I have friends at the top MBB firms, top ibanks, the real story is MOST leave after 2-3 years and have to trade down significantly or do something less well paying purely because NO ONE else will pay you six figures with two years of education. You are running a serious risk doing an MBA even at a top school and if the market crashes again you are completely screwed!

Sensible advice would be to focus explicitly on hard skills:

1) Programming – pick up several languages, build real stuff online, create a portfolio

2) Blog – write and do it consistently

3) Design – focus on digital, find a way to bootleg Photoshop and the adobe suit and start to practice early on

4) Sales – figure out a way to build up a track record in sales. Work in a job, start a business etc do something

5) Public Speaking – join toastmasters or a stand up comedy course. Go through the entire series will take you 2 years absolute max!

6) Mathematics – Focus on an applied area such as finance for personal and professional reasons.

Also, in this day and age, contacts cost $0.00 to make. If you want to make contacts even if you are in “bum fuck nowhere” you use linkedin you use twitter you learn how to contact and reach out to people online then get the conversation offline. OFFER value first then ask for help second. Always remember this.

Then you need to figure out who your biggest nodes (Contacts with large contacts) are and keep this relationship warm and strategically ask for help while continuing to add value!

I can actually point you in the right direction for help so message me

Atlanta Man
Atlanta Man
6 years ago

Make sure he does not go to law school unless he gets into a top ten program or be ready for life to really suck.

AmeriKastan=Gestappoville
AmeriKastan=Gestappoville
6 years ago
Reply to  Atlanta Man

Lawyers suck. Thu have the personality of a box of used dildos and torment productive people with endless bureaucratic hassles via the Americastan government courts.

How about if hose son of a bitches invented a computer chip, a bio product, or even a better way to shop or drink coffee (Amazon or Starbucks or Costco) instead of being the fecal matter they mostly are as a group.

One of my
Favorite sayings-
One useless man is a disgrace
Two useless men are a law firm
And three or more useless men are some form of legislative body ( state or the kings of being wortess turds Amuricastans Congress on Crapitol Hill)

gaoxiaen
gaoxiaen
6 years ago

They suck until you need one to stay out of prison.

BA
BA
6 years ago

The trades are looking better & better. If I was starting over, I’d go for HVAC. Take a local training course and hire out as a technician. It will suck at first but you’ll be learning a lot while getting paid. Try to get into the commercial side of it. After you get good & get all the proper licenses, you can do side work for residential customers. Then you can start your own A/C company or buy out a retiring guy’s company. Lots of money there but lots of risk too. Alternatively, you can start doing construction inspection/management. Easy work that takes advantage of your expertise CM firms typically pay pretty well and if you’re good, they’ll keep you on for various projects.

I’ve a buddy that’s been doing HVAC for decades and he’s really good. He works on the side most weekends for additional cash and has a 40 hour a week gig that pays well and has full benefits.

And regardless of the economy, people always find a way to keep the A/C and heater repaired.

Fearless
Fearless
6 years ago
Reply to  BA

I agree with the (skilled) trades completly. Big money to be made out west in the tar sands if you can survive out there for a yr. Downsides are rampant crime, long hours, dangerous work, etc… Upsides are $80,000 as a journeyman steamfitter.

Lemon
Lemon
6 years ago

Great article. I love the focus on advising young men.

I care more about that than advice how to chase pussy, although yes they are linked in many ways.

I have a 12 year old son. I am definitely worried about the world he’ll encounter.

Sean
Sean
6 years ago

Best to just get a STEM degree or an economics degree. Either degree translates to a lot of well paying career choices, but includes a ton of math classes that can translate into any corporate career with 6 months of traini

G Ron
G Ron
6 years ago
Reply to  Sean

Spot on follow the money man. This is good advice. I’ve know. Mathematicians who have lucrative corporate jobs. But corporate work- its kinda like selli g your soul isn’t it?

Matt
Matt
6 years ago

If he wants to go to college, the first thing he should do is start knocking out CLEP & DANTES/DSST tests. He should be able to start school with 60-90 hours of credit.

anonymous
anonymous
6 years ago
Reply to  Matt

Not so quick, buddy.

Many universities will not grant credit for CLEP and DSST exams. Before investing a lot of time and effort, you’d have to check the college catalogs for the schools you’re interested in, and see what sort of benefit you’ll receive (credit, course substitution, complete a pre-req, etc).

anonymous
anonymous
6 years ago
Reply to  anonymous

Also, a much better route would be to take Advanced Placement examinations in multiple subjects. Universities (especially public schools) are much more willing to grant both credit AND course substitution for a score of 4 or 5 on an AP test.

And you can take the AP test even when you’re not in high school, like say, during a gap year.