Thanks for this. I completely agree on treatments, especially for cancer. I have yet to see a family member saved by them, but have seen all of them suffer in their last days. Except for possibly a cousin who had cancer, was suffering but still surviving, and then passed away after receiving the coronavirus vaccine. Yet another stain on the medical industry I suppose, giving a stage 4 cancer patient a vaccine to "protect" against a souped up cold "virus." They're really just a hair away from burning chicken bones and chanting incantations around the fire, aren't they?

I look forward to the day, hopefully soon, where we all see the current medical system for the barbarism that it's always been since the Rockafellers took it over.

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I have to say that I disagree with using Died Suddenly as a basis for discussion. It's not a serious documentary, as it contains so many flaws (inadequate footage, extrapolations to stuff like big foot at flat earth, regardless of what you think of those concepts themselves), that it almost seems like a psyop to ridicule antijab opinions. A lot of footage of the clots being removed were just post mortem clots filmed before the Coof thing started.
It's clear that the shot is very risky and has a lot of negative outcomes, but I'm not sure to what degree the calamari clots are part of it. The factor of demonic activity is one I believe in and take seriously, but who knows the long and medium term consequences of that will be.
I'd also like to mention that I'm not biased in favor of the jab being harmless.
In fact, if it was more visibly harmful and deadly, the mere vindication I'd feel over that would make me feel less like a loser who checked out of his career ambitions because he couldn't deal with the mass hysteria taking place in the world. Then again, even thinking like that probably indicates that I am myself subjected to demonic intentions, and thus don't deserve better than being caught up in my current despondency.

All info I have thus far gained, outside of the health drawbacks of the jab clearly outweighing its benefits, seems rather vague and nebulous as to what the shot really does. So far, none of the jab fanatics from my immediate environment have dropped dead or gotten seriously ill. Some people seem to get sick more, but I cannot really contextualize that as a data point.
To play the devil's advocate, is it possible that some of the more grave consequences aren't particularly well attested to but quickly bought into, out of the desire to make our suffering throughout the last years seem more worthwhile outside of the purely spiritual point of view?

I'm absolutely open to arguments and new facts. I didn't really do much research into the jab since the lockdowns were ended. Actually SEEING those consequences would also do more in terms of making a reckoning for the medical sector more likely.

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I think it has to be number three. I think the vaccine mRNA tech was supposed to act as experimental gene therapy. I think HIV was probably an early experiment in retro-transposition as well.

The vaccine delivers MRNA in a highly stable nano-lipid proprietary technology that is in my opinion specifically designed to deliver the MRNA into the cell nucleus via retro-transposition which occurs because the lipid formulation bypasses the cell's innate defense mechanisms like a trojan horse. The body is unsuspecting. When this happens the person is going to become a toxic spike protein factory in certain cells because some cells will begin to express the protein which we know causes covid-like disease (clotting, heart disease).

I think vaccinated people, more than unvaccinated, are at risk of this DNA integration. Unvaccinated are likely at risk of this too if they had covid multiple times but it's likely a smaller risk (other viruses like EBV, HSV, HIV etc can be integrated and passed onto subsequent generations as well.)

Both vaccinated and unvaccinated have to deal with spike proteins. Vaccinated people or people who have integrated the code into their genome will be expressing spike at some constant level and shedding it via saliva, sweat, etc. So thus being in contact with them will cause some low level of inflammation which can build up since spike proteins can hang around for 6 months to a year and are extremely difficult proteins to degrade. A lot of the spike proteins that are manufactured will be recognized as foreign and be bound up in immune complexes which themselves might become a problem after some time, and I think there is also other "autoimmune" reactions at play as the body attacks spike-producing cells. Maybe the cells that integrate the MRNA into the DNA will be killed but then the next cell in line will still produce the protein and thus be attacked and killed. So this process will likely cause autoimmune disease and cancer eventually. Not to mention fertility problems and problems in subsequent generations born with this malicious code.

We still don't know how long the lipid MRNA persists in the body after vaccination but we know from studies (Fertig et al.) that it is at least 15 days and the curves don't decline. It looks like they stay constant. So we don't know how long someone who has been vaccinated is potentially spreading the lipid nanoparticle via saliva and other excretions. Even if they are no longer excreting the lipid MRNA, we know that casual contact can still transfer "regular" form MRNA and DNA. There is probably an extraordinarily low chance of integrating this since our cells have complicated defense mechanisms normally to prevent retro-transposition. So, if you live with someone who was vaccinated, there is a good chance you got "vaccinated" as well. Basically the unvaccinated may have been contaminated already and it may be too late for many of us.

I hate to be pessimistic but as a healthy, unvaccinated young person who just got a blood clot in my leg (had covid twice but last time was over a year ago), I have become quite paranoid myself. I read that nattokinase and NAC are good ways to degrade spike protein. Of course that doesn't solve the underlying problem if it has become integrated into your genome.

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It seems that thrombosis is the real cause of most heart disease, and not plaque by itself. The Masai have a lot of plaque, but they don't have heart disease as an example. The mRNA vaccine increases clotting via it's effects on the smoothness of the endothelium, which causes immune activation/inflammation, which in turn affects the stability of said arterial plaques.
Paul mason describes the general mechanism well here;

Another thing about thrombosis is that hypoxia activates endothelial cells and triggers the clotting cascade. I wonder if covid/spike protein somehow triggers hypoxia by interfering with normal red blood cell function. Just speculating on the mechanism...

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I have to say that I disagree with using Died Suddenly as a basis for discussion. It's not a serious documentary, as it contains so many flaws (inadequate footage, extrapolations to stuff like big foot at flat earth, regardless of what you think of those concepts themselves), that it almost seems like a psyop to ridicule antijab opinions. A lot of footage of the clots being removed were just post mortem clots filmed before the Coof thing started.
It's clear that the shot is very risky and has a lot of negative outcomes, but I'm not sure to what degree the calamari clots are part of it. The factor of demonic activity is one I believe in and take seriously, but who knows the long and medium term consequences of that will be.
I'd also like to mention that I'm not biased in favor of the jab being harmless.
In fact, if it was more visibly harmful and deadly, the mere vindication I'd feel over that would make me feel less like a loser who checked out of his career ambitions because he couldn't deal with the mass hysteria taking place in the world. Then again, even thinking like that probably indicates that I am myself subjected to demonic intentions, and thus don't deserve better than being caught up in my current despondency.

All info I have thus far gained, outside of the health drawbacks of the jab clearly outweighing its benefits, seems rather vague and nebulous as to what the shot really does. So far, none of the jab fanatics from my immediate environment have dropped dead or gotten seriously ill. Some people seem to get sick more, but I cannot really contextualize that as a data point.
To play the devil's advocate, is it possible that some of the more grave consequences aren't particularly well attested to but quickly bought into, out of the desire to make our suffering throughout the last years seem more worthwhile outside of the purely spiritual point of view?

I'm absolutely open to arguments and new facts. I didn't really do much research into the jab since the lockdowns were ended. Actually SEEING those consequences would also do more in terms of making a reckoning for the medical sector more likely.

Its human nature to have doubts when confronted with massive amounts of conflicting information, and social pressures.

You say "none of the jab fanatics from my immediate environment have dropped dead or gotten seriously ill".

OK. But ask yourself this. How many people in your immediate environment dropped dead from the "disease" the jabs are supposed to be the answer for?

I dont pretend to "know" whats in the vaxx. But I dont need to.

What I do know with absolute certainty is that the "response" in terms of policy, hype and rhetoric was galactically out of proportion to the actual "health crisis". There was no emergency. No piles of dead bodies. No "World War Z" level event.

Why?

Hence no need for an "emergency" vaxx program.

No emergency to solve means no benefit to a "solution"

No benefit means no point.

So even if you doubt the mountains of anecdotal evidence of widespread adverse effects, you can rest assured that not taking the jab(s) was the right call.

It definitely wasnt the wrong one

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There is probably an extraordinarily low chance of integrating this since our cells have complicated defense mechanisms normally to prevent retro-transposition. So, if you live with someone who was vaccinated, there is a good chance you got "vaccinated" as well. Basically the unvaccinated may have been contaminated already and it may be too late for many of us.

A "good" chance? From the rest of your post I'd rather think it's a low chance. Very low. The nanolipids, and I'm now going mostly by what I remember from the debate around the biodistribution study, seem to get stuck in the tissues of internal organs, for the most part. At the time, nobody could know exactly what they are up to in there, but I remember distinctly that Vanessa Schmidt-Krüger mentioned that if you think "nanoparticles" and "ionized" in the same sentence, you next association should be "cancer".
Apparently, it took those particles a couple of weeks to get stuck there, so maybe right after the injection they could get expelled from the body and get into somebody else's body, but otherwise it seems as if they just stay in the injectees organs.

The other reason I don't believe in shedding is a spiritual one. The injection was a very clear cut matter of decision. Making the decision against it required significant sacrifice on a personal level, but seemed very much doable for pretty much everyone. Orthodox don't believe in prosperity gospel or anything like that, but there is a connection between your decisions and what happens to you. If trying to maintain contact to the jabbed people around us or loved ones, or trying to convince others of the truth, would get you the same punishment as them, then that would indeed have very weird implications, from a religious perspective.

Orthodox don't even believe in multiple spoons. Like, specifically, they canonically don't believe in that. The jab is a similar situation, but in reverse. If fundamental decisions like our refusal ultimately didn't matter, then literally nothing would matter, in terms of significance.

I know, some people might argue "God works in mysterious ways" and I shouldn't project my limited understanding of justice onto God, but on the other hand, justice isn't removed from what we perceive noetically. I've been skeptical of the concept of shedding very much from the beginning, because it seemed like a way to infuse the Christians with the same panic that the NPCs felt.

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I have to say that I disagree with using Died Suddenly as a basis for discussion. It's not a serious documentary, as it contains so many flaws (inadequate footage, extrapolations to stuff like big foot at flat earth, regardless of what you think of those concepts themselves), that it almost seems like a psyop to ridicule antijab opinions. A lot of footage of the clots being removed were just post mortem clots filmed before the Coof thing started.
It's clear that the shot is very risky and has a lot of negative outcomes, but I'm not sure to what degree the calamari clots are part of it. The factor of demonic activity is one I believe in and take seriously, but who knows the long and medium term consequences of that will be.
I'd also like to mention that I'm not biased in favor of the jab being harmless.
In fact, if it was more visibly harmful and deadly, the mere vindication I'd feel over that would make me feel less like a loser who checked out of his career ambitions because he couldn't deal with the mass hysteria taking place in the world. Then again, even thinking like that probably indicates that I am myself subjected to demonic intentions, and thus don't deserve better than being caught up in my current despondency.

All info I have thus far gained, outside of the health drawbacks of the jab clearly outweighing its benefits, seems rather vague and nebulous as to what the shot really does. So far, none of the jab fanatics from my immediate environment have dropped dead or gotten seriously ill. Some people seem to get sick more, but I cannot really contextualize that as a data point.
To play the devil's advocate, is it possible that some of the more grave consequences aren't particularly well attested to but quickly bought into, out of the desire to make our suffering throughout the last years seem more worthwhile outside of the purely spiritual point of view?

I'm absolutely open to arguments and new facts. I didn't really do much research into the jab since the lockdowns were ended. Actually SEEING those consequences would also do more in terms of making a reckoning for the medical sector more likely.

I haven't watched the documentary, but I see your point because a lot of the evidence is anecdotal. I'm not an orthodox christian, nor can I even say I believe in christianity other than as a moral guidebook, but that being said I do think murdering babies is wrong and I don't want anything to do with it. I think what Roosh said is right in the sense that there is an evil magic surrounding the concept of using dead babies as a way to make others healthy. Even the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, which is not (officially atleast) an mRNA jab, is still grown off dead fetal cells. So are many vaccines such as certain rabies vaccines.
Also, I know that if the globalist government ( who also promote baby murder, child genital mutilation, gun control, and many other evils) is telling me to do something, I probably shouldn't do it, I think that alone is enough to vindicate my opinion.
But another aspect is that the jabbers (the phsrmaceutical corporations and their useful idiots) say that the jab only affects mRNA but not DNA. But what researchers at Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia, PA discovered in 2021 is that polymerase theta, a polymerase located in many mammal bodies' including humans, is capable of transferring mRNA into DNA and in fact is especially efficient at doing so. Yet the government-media-pharmaceutical complex refuses to address this new scientific discovery which came the year after the jab was first rolled out, I can only assume this is because they have something to hide.

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A "good" chance? From the rest of your post I'd rather think it's a low chance. Very low. The nanolipids, and I'm now going mostly by what I remember from the debate around the biodistribution study, seem to get stuck in the tissues of internal organs, for the most part. At the time, nobody could know exactly what they are up to in there, but I remember distinctly that Vanessa Schmidt-Krüger mentioned that if you think "nanoparticles" and "ionized" in the same sentence, you next association should be "cancer".
Apparently, it took those particles a couple of weeks to get stuck there, so maybe right after the injection they could get expelled from the body and get into somebody else's body, but otherwise it seems as if they just stay in the injectees organs.

The other reason I don't believe in shedding is a spiritual one. The injection was a very clear cut matter of decision. Making the decision against it required significant sacrifice on a personal level, but seemed very much doable for pretty much everyone. Orthodox don't believe in prosperity gospel or anything like that, but there is a connection between your decisions and what happens to you. If trying to maintain contact to the jabbed people around us or loved ones, or trying to convince others of the truth, would get you the same punishment as them, then that would indeed have very weird implications, from a religious perspective.

Orthodox don't even believe in multiple spoons. Like, specifically, they canonically don't believe in that. The jab is a similar situation, but in reverse. If fundamental decisions like our refusal ultimately didn't matter, then literally nothing would matter, in terms of significance.

I know, some people might argue "God works in mysterious ways" and I shouldn't project my limited understanding of justice onto God, but on the other hand, justice isn't removed from what we perceive noetically. I've been skeptical of the concept of shedding very much from the beginning, because it seemed like a way to infuse the Christians with the same panic that the NPCs felt.

The MRNA nanolipids are not just in organs, they are in the plasma and bloodstream, saliva and excretions. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35884842/. Here is the chart of the vaccine MRNA in bloodstream detected after vaccination.

You can also take a look at Dr. Senef or McCullough's theories on shedding but it is likely real.

To be clear, I think shedding of MRNA and spike proteins absolutely occurs. What I said was a low chance is retrotransposition after casual contact with regular non-lipid spike MRNA or DNA. But again we don't know how long the vaccine lipid nanoparticle MRNA lasts in the blood stream, it seems from the data that it can persist for quite some time. Up to 15 days in blood (but curve was not going down) and was tested at 60 days in lymphnodes. So during this time frame after someone is vaccinated, I think it is possible one could be second-hand vaccinated. Of course I hope I'm wrong I am just looking at these studies.

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"I’ve lost complete faith in the medical industry, faith I should never have had in the first place. That faith was shattered when, before I became an Orthodox Christian, I saw what the cancer doctors did to my sister with their poisonous concoctions. From my perspective, their treatments accelerated her death."

I'm sorry for your loss, Roosh. I lost my father to cancer in 2017. He was diagnosed in August and started chemo in September. He died less than 2 months after starting chemo. I think he also got one dose of Keytruda.

I have a very healthy disrespect for the medical community, and in the future I would only consider seeing a doctor if I am literally in dire straits. Besides, fasting and healthy eating can fix nearly every health problem. And fasting is free :cool:

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Steve Kirsh presented numbers that around 1 in 1000 that die from the vaccine. That's quite significant and results in millions of deaths at the rate people are getting vaccinated. Many more suffer from vaccine injuries (and yet don't even know it's from the vaccine). Nonetheless, the vaccine is not a vaccine or a medicine in any modern sense.

I was referring only to suffering the effects from shedding, not the vaxx. No disagreement there.

Although I will say that Steve Kirsch partly gathered his data by surveying his twitter followers, which doesn't seem to be the most solid method to me. Ron Unz criticized him for that, but he himself came out with very low numbers, which I think he took from the various national agencies that collect adverse events data. In Germany, they are at 1 in 10 000, which I think is complete bogus, plus there have been many reports of doctors refusing to report experiences by their patients (for obvious reasons), and who knows how the data is manipulated afterwards.
Either way, we have no solid way to tell at the moment. My gut tells me Kirsch's numbers are closer to the truth though.

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"I’ve lost complete faith in the medical industry, faith I should never have had in the first place. That faith was shattered when, before I became an Orthodox Christian, I saw what the cancer doctors did to my sister with their poisonous concoctions. From my perspective, their treatments accelerated her death."

I'm sorry for your loss, Roosh. I lost my father to cancer in 2017. He was diagnosed in August and started chemo in September. He died less than 2 months after starting chemo. I think he also got one dose of Keytruda.

I have a very healthy disrespect for the medical community, and in the future I would only consider seeing a doctor if I am literally in dire straits. Besides, fasting and healthy eating can fix nearly every health problem. And fasting is free :cool:

My condolences on the loss of your father Kentucky Gent. How sad he died so soon after diagnosis.

My Dad died when they stopped chemo. The tumour was growing back, he wasn't strong enough for another surgery to remove this regrowth and surprisingly, they admitted the chemo was a toxin they couldn't continue giving hiim... ethically(20 months of it after the first try of radiation((after the 90% removal surgery))

Within days of stopping chemo pills, we moved him into palliative care in a section of an old folks' home.
It looked like a hospital room, but with cameras facing the bed in two spots.
He thought he was getting a second surgery and that's why he was there. Heartbreaking and maddening. So pitiful. Insane how helpless and angry I felt.

Sometimes it is a blessing? a comfort? to lose them so fast.
They don't suffer as long.

My Dad couldn't eat near the end. He basically starved to death. He always encouraged us to keep a little extra weight on in case we get sick.
Well, his extra weight bought him 3 weeks of more life.

If we were all practicing Christianity better, this longtime degradation and suffering wouldn't have happened maybe.

I pray for him that God has him in heaven. To please consider this for my father, a good man.

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