What I’ve Learned About Women From My Long-Term Relationships

I’d like to share some things I’ve learned about women from the relationships I’ve had. A lot of that experience comes from Eastern European girls, who are more feminine than American girls, but I believe the true nature of women is the same no matter where you go, lurking underneath regardless of outward presentation and behavior.

1. They lie a lot

Men assert their interests through logic, dominance, and physical strength. Women assert their interests through beauty, guile, and deception. A girl has self-interest in a relationship that may not overlap with yours, and will use her strengths to maintain that interest. Lying is one of the ways she steers the relationship into her desired destination, and this is often done unconsciously to the point where she may actually believe the lies she is telling you.

Girls who are more moral or “good” compared to others can still lie by omission. Because they feel some guilt with bold face lies, they instead craft narratives that leave out damaging facts which may cause her to lose power or standing in the relationship. Lying by omission requires a careful editor within their minds that are meticulous about removing details that can cause problems, especially in their encounters with other men.

For example, imagine a a girl asking her man what he did during the day. He replies, “I ran into a girl I knew today and we had a cup of tea.” He was walking home from work, suddenly recognized a girl he went to college with, popped into a cafe to talk about old friends for twenty minutes, and then gave her a handshake goodbye without any suggestive touching or flirting.

Now imagine a man asking a girl the same question. She replies, “I ran into a guy I knew today and we had a cup of tea.” The event happened in the same way as the man, right? Wrong. What actually happened was an old flame contacted her on Facebook, they exchanged several dozen suggestive messages that included kiss emoticons, he asked her to meet at a specific time in front of a cafe, they went inside and talked for two hours, their legs touched underneath the table, they reminisced about a past drunken hookup, they went for a walk to a nearby lake where more incidental touching happened, and then finally they said goodbye with the guy failing to get a lip kiss and having to settle for a playful grab of her ass.

What she told her boyfriend about the event was not a lie in her mind, but he thinks the event happened in the same way if he recounted it to her. As you can see, asking a girl to narrate an event will not get you close to the truth, because the truth would damage her standing in the relationship. The truth can only be uncovered after asking specific questions.

  • How exactly do you know this guy?
  • Did you hook up with him in the past?
  • How long were you at the cafe?
  • Did he try to touch you?
  • Where did you go after the cafe?
  • What exactly did you talk about?
  • How did he say goodbye to you?

This is exhausting for you to perform, but may be prudent if you are suspicious about a certain encounter. If she hesitates at an answer, you are witnessing her editing mechanism at work, and can assume she has gone from lying by omission to outright lying.

2. They’re time vampires

The late comic Patrice O’ Neal, who dropped reams of red pill relationship advice on the Black Philip Show, called women “time vampires.” He described how for men, the actual sex act is the most pleasurable part of being with a woman, but for a woman, merely having a man spend time on them is the sex. They like being taken out, doted on, entertained, and so on. This explains why they will go on dates with men they don’t even like, because the act of going out and being “hunted” by a man is so extremely validating.

Men just want sex, a bit of intimacy, a companion to eat or watch movies with, and space. Women want sex, cuddling, and endless hours of conversation about nothing important. She wants her man to be a problem solver, psychologist, warrior, and punching bag all in one, and even if you satisfy those needs, she will always want more, because it’s in her nature to keep extracting value.

For whatever reason, a woman finds it impossible to be alone. They’ll spend time with someone they hate, or who they are intensely jealous of, than be alone. A woman rather have a gaggle of gay friends, and hear them constantly talk about butt sex, then watch documentaries or read old books. Their primary fear in life is being alone, something that many men actually desire. A man would not spend time with someone else he dislikes from fear of being alone, because it’s during his alone time that he can recharge his batteries and process his experiences.

When a girl identifies you as a romantic boyfriend, what she really has found is a “time friend,” someone who can now spend dozens of hours a week with her, just so she doesn’t have to be with her own mind. For men who do value their alone time, this causes the bulk of relationship conflicts, but since pussy feels so good, we continue making the sacrifice, as we have been doing for millennia.

3. They have nothing going on in their lives


Waiting in line for a little cupcake

Time vampires need other people’s time because they have nothing going on in their own lives. Men have peculiar interests and hobbies that can occupy them endlessly. I’ve gone days without human contact while working on a particular book project or web site, and didn’t feel particularly pained.

Women don’t have hobbies or interests that are not external projections of how they wish to see themselves. Their primary life interest is men, because only men allow them to construct an image to others of who they want to be seen as: a good girlfriend, a girl in love, a girl who another man greatly desires, a sexy woman, an honorable woman, and so on. The man is a needed accessory in this manipulation, which is why it’s so common for a girl to dive into a long-term relationship, and profess her love for a man, only to cheat on him from the weakest of impulses. The relationship merely serves as validation of how she wants to be seen, not who she really is. The gap between who she wants to be and who she actually is gets taken care of by her advanced rationalization mechanism that prevents her from accepting she is rather clueless and makes grievous mistakes.

It’s her relationships with men that give her definition to her life, because outside of it, she has nothing but Facebook news feeds, Instagram, pop trends, a mind-numbing job, and friends who mainly talk about other men, gossip, text messaging, and feminine hygiene. Besides work, which she pursues partly to have more leverage in her relationships with men by not needing their money (compared to many men who actually enjoy their jobs), she has no identity that she can call her own, no interests to ground her, no passions that are unrelated to men and being seen as attractive by them.

The above is a nice way of saying the following: if women were judged by how they judge men, they’d be losers. Put a dick on just about any woman you know and watch her instantly transform into a loser, one who is addicted to social media, overpriced restaurants, toxic entertainment, and endless validation from strangers. The biggest male loser is as accomplished, talented, and skilled as the biggest female “winner,” and the only reason very few girls are seen as losers is because they have a pussy, and just about all pussies feel good, regardless of who it’s attached to.

4. They are unable to perceive their own hypocrisy

Women will hold you to a standard, at the threat of dumping you if you break it, when she herself is not holding that standard. They do the very things they wouldn’t want you doing, and rationalize it by saying that what she’s doing is actually different, when in all likelihood it’s even worse. They remember every thing you said, even from years ago, but can’t see a behavior they did just last week that contradicts her standards for you.

Women have no objective standard or morality, and thus no way to identify if they are right or wrong about anything. Instead, they use pure emotion to guide their behavior. If they feel good then it must be just. If they feel bad then it must not be. Since emotions can twist the perception of any event, she will simply do what she wants to do and find an emotional path or false strain of logic to convince her it was right.

The most amazing behavior I’ve seen in women is denying something that you caught them doing. You can show them evidence, right to their face, and they will deny it, and then find a way to blame you for it. I have been warned about this before, but was skeptical until I experienced myself. She is such an unreliable “witness” to her own behavior that there may be no point to ever getting an explanation from her about anything. If you don’t know the facts about something, and need her side of the story to get the facts, you’ll never get the facts.

5. It takes a village to keep a woman monogamous

I don’t care how much of an alpha male you are, or how tight your game is, but if you are the only positive influence in your girlfriend or wife’s life, and everything else around her is pushing her to feed her primal need of pleasure, fun, and higher status men, you will get burned. You will not provide an “oasis” of tradition and monogamy if everything else is programming her for feminism and promiscuity. You may be able to keep it together for a few months, a few years, and maybe even a decade, but eventually it will collapse.

I’ve learned that having game is only half of the component to maintaining a healthy relationship. The other half is having her in an environment that tells hers to “cherish your man, be faithful, have children.” Otherwise you will lose. We’re all products of our environment, whether we want to admit it or not, but this impacts women even more because they operate on the consensus of others.

If everyone started jumping off a bridge tomorrow, she would too, because it’s the social proof which convinces her that it’s an activity she would feel good doing. On the other hand, men operate on hierarchy, and we only follow the top dog. If everyone is jumping off the bridge, but our leader doesn’t, we do not jump off the bridge. A man will not follow a crowd of weak men because they are numerous, unlike a woman, who thinks that participating with the majority will make her feel good by lowering her chance of being rejected or ostracized from a group.

For one of my relationships, I tried to create a serene bubble of patriarchy and goodness, and it worked for a while, but eventually I lost out to Facebook, her promiscuous friends, her enabling relatives, and to the degenerate majority. By dating one girl, you date the world around her, and if that world is sick, a negative outcome is inevitable.

6. Red flags are red for a reason

If a girl has done what you consider a red flag, you know she will not be suitable for a long-term relationship. But when you really like a girl, and emotion starts to cloud your logic, you find a way to transform a red flag into a yellow flag. You ignore the advice of your friends, ignore your own instinct, and start looking for insignificant green flags as counterweights to justify the relationship until it all falls apart.

A woman’s actions do not lie. I repeat: a woman’s actions do not lie. Her words are an unreliable witness and must be ignored. The way she acts and behaves is who she is, not what she says. If her actions tell you she’s not quality material, don’t make her a wife. The problem is that men get so caught up in a girl’s beauty and pussy that they actively try to turn the ho or feminist into a housewife.

I can now see the futility in asking a girl how many partners she has been with. You won’t ever get the truth. A girl has the most incentive to lie about this, along with other features of her past, so look at her actions instead. How comfortable with sex is she? How flirtatious was she with you in the beginning? How slutty are her friends? From these observations, you will be able to surmise a number, even if she tries to lie about her actions by playing hard-to-get with you specifically. If a girl couldn’t resist your game, she also can’t resist the game of many other men.

Conclusion

When it comes to relationships, my standards are impossibly high, and I will be the first to admit that, but it’s based on the logic of modern relationships and the fact that I don’t want to experience a divorce like my parents did. If a woman marries the wrong man, divorce is easy for her. She gets the children, house, monthly payments, and community support for being so brave. If a man marries the wrong woman, his life is ruined. He gets depression, destitution, suicidal thoughts, and children that are programmed to hate him. Who has to be more careful about any decision to enter a long-term relationship that may result in children?

I have high relationship standards because the stakes are high, so I will use my knowledge of the true nature of women, which I’ve spelled out here, and then use logic to determine which woman may be the mother of my children. If I ignore that true nature, I may enjoy bliss for maybe a few years (if I’m lucky) until the hammer comes down on me, and I’m left in a miserable position compared to an ex who is galloping away with my property and children. I’m at the point in my life where I wouldn’t mind having children, but I am also a man who can accept being alone. The latter is surely a better option than being a victim to something I could have predicted would happen.

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Petruccio
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Roosh, you are wrong about how she “wants her man to be a problem solver”. She wants drama, conflict, and the man to be an emotional tampon. Solve the problem at hand (as we men do) and the drama ends. Women want problems to alleviate their boredom. Men want less bullshit, therefore we solve the problem, and thus never satisfy the woman.

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Truest words.
“Women want problems to alleviate their boredom.”
That’s why they are in favor of mass migration and why they are traveling to South Africa and India.

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they’re travelling to south africa and india?

i thought they’re travelling to jamaica and morocco

GRock
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English women are literally traveling to Africa, screwing tribal Africans who carry HIV for the “thrill” of “good sex.” Mental disease now spreading deadly disease. Risk? Who cares.

Kwokka_54
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good, maybe these broads will get weeded out by Darwin then.

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Fuck, I hope!

R Sagan
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They should STAY in Africa, then.

LIVE FREE OR DIE
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While they’re gone: LEAVE.

Take The Red Pill
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They’re also alleviating their ‘excitement’ fix by supporting the ‘immigration’ of Muslim ‘refugees’ into the West.
And they’re now enjoying the results of their actions in Sweden, Britain, Germany, and France…

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Fake News Story.

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Girls do not want verbal solutions to their “problems”, as you say, they want you to be an emotional tampon. But, they do want you to solve their real problems, they often won’t tell you what they are though.

Pretend “Problem” : ” I’m supposed to be meeting so and so later, I don’t feel like it”
pretend answer – ” don’t you babe? Tell me about it…”

Real problem: ” I’ve got nowhere to put this new lamp I’ve bought ”

Answer: put a shelf up ( demand a blow job minimum )

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and they like trick questions such as “Which one do you prefer, blue or red ???” Doesn’t matter how many valid arguments you present, you’re always wrong.

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yes, or where do you want to eat, it’s almost cliche that she wants you to figure out where/what she feels like eating.

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Even if you don’t want to eat anything, and she “doesn’t care,” not eating out is NOT THE RIGHT ANSWER.

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I’ve been chastised in an LTR for us “doing what you always want to do.” However, with limited time, and female indecision consistent, I make the plans.

Funny bitch, instead of thanking me for actually being able to make a fucking decision without wasting half the weekend, which commonly provides new experiences for one or both of us, you come back after the fact and use it as a anchor point for a fight and drama. Stupid cunts.

It really becomes to much waste of time and resources, jsut for a wet dick and a little companionship.

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She’ll typically pout and let me have it for days afterwards if we actually go somewhere that (apparently only) I actually wanted to try.

Patrick Henry
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Her: I don’t like that place
Me: that’s where we’re going then.
Her: Why can’t you tell what I’m feeling like? You’re such a dick.
Me: Don’t ask the question if you don’t like the answer. Say what you want or learn to cook.

Take The Red Pill
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Don’t forget their favorite: “do these pants make my butt look big?”

Even poor ‘Honest Abe’ couldn’t get away from it:

Brutus Maximus
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the answer doesn’t matter they’ll give you shit either way.

Patrick Henry
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I always say yes.

GRock
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That’s when I say:”Red, it reminds me of your bloody haunches.” That usually ends it.

Petruccio
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So what makes the difference between spit and swallow?

Baby Shoes
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Demand! Ha ha

Brutus Maximus
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Great truth. It’s a constant tension-release situation.
Never ever answer the question “Honey do you think I’m fat ?”

Petruccio
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Or, never give a direct answer. Answer a question with a question.

Patrick Henry
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Is the catholic church full of pedophiles?

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When was the last time you heard of a muslim cleric suffer any negative consequences of his sodomy with young boys?

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I’m always like, goddamn right you are, get that cottage cheese butt on the stairmaster or hit the road, jackass.

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Exactly. Shut that shut down fast. Be gentle but candid (if you like her) If she responds to your honesty with an eagerness to please you and impress you than she’s a keeper. If she responds with anger than she’s trouble

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I just tell ’em they’re fat.

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I disagree, the problem-solver part is definitely there, sometimes to the point (in my case) of her attempting to foist on you any decisions which carry risk whether or not you’re qualified to make them, in which case you can be the punching bag when the decision is wrong.

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I had a crafty bitch for 14 month run who even softly sold herself as the “trouble free” partner who I’d probably not find “very exciting” because she’s “drama free.” We all know the translation, just reverse of everything she claimed ultimately. It took a good 11 months or so before little spouts arose. In fact right on que from my estimated chronology. Ever hear this?:

“You just don’t understand women!” Naw slut, I understand them too well.. you know it, I know it, and you can’t keep winning with your b.s. which is why it’s over.

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I concur.

Women don’t want their problems solved. They’d rather bitch about a problem endlessly, feeding their emotional brain centers, than have a capable man solve the problem for them. I see it from my mother’s generation (80+) all the way down to this year’s crop of barely legal bikini butt babes.

Drama is dopamine for the female brain. Everything in our culture is geared towards providing that to women via mainstream and social media.

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I experienced the “anger” from my ex a few times until I told her flat out if she had a problem she could keep it to herself (worked out surprisingly well).

We were driving home from dinner and she launched into this huge problem that she needed to ask “advice” for. So naturally like most men I gave her a solution and half way through my solution shes like “baby, I dont want to you SOLVE my problem, I just wanted you to listen.” It was at that point I had to ask her if she knew how stupid she sounded with that statement.

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I was wrong about solving “the problem at hand…and the drama ends”. That particular drama ends and she starts new drama.

George ironthumb
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You must create “problems” via the classic “Dread”

Petruccio
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Unfortunately, I’m all too good at dread game and asshole game. They just come naturally to me. I’ll just blame the matriarchy. Heheheh!

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Visual proof of YOU being in the field and clearly demonstrating these tasks is now required. Show us exactly the process or retract your assertion.

Petruccio
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Are you shit testing me, Anti-Gnostic? I suspected you of being a woman, but women usually don’t gve Third Grade shit tests.

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These punks are keyboard trolls. You won’t find any logical regular reader in Roosh who will just flare out like that and start an argument when no argument is taking place. I was just referring to a logical approach that everyone does to LTR Dread, and all time favorite – the Agree and Amplify. Those shit really work I think we lasted 11 years (since 2006). To be honest it doesn’t get old. I remember one time I bough a sim card and have my female office mate call my LTR’s number looking for me and then just hung up.

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My original point about asshole and dread game is that I sometimes can be too good at it to my own detriment. I have little patience for nonsense and call out bullshit when I see it or hear it.

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Dude, put up or shut up. You talk shit, now back it up. Again, record yourself in the field actually employing those two techniques. Post it here. No editing. The entire filming session. It’s called a challenge, bitch.

Petruccio
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Do you really expect me to dox myself? Nice try cunt.

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No, I expect you to man up and show everyone how good you are at asshole and dread game. Any dude can make a boast on the Internet. You talk shit, now back it up, gamma.

Patrick Henry
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Don’t talk to your father that way.

Patrick Henry
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So your asking for a dick pic?

George ironthumb
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Oh Holy hell – Let’s just drink to that! But the point in hand – “Dread” works no doubt. And this single post, I remember, was what I read back 6 years ago (I think) that got me into this whole manosphere thing – without this, I would have been ignorant all this time http://www.rooshv.com/top-15-game-tips-for-long-term-relationships

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Show us how “Dread” works for you. YOU field test it. Record it for all to see to prove you are not full of shit.

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Personally, I dumped punks who act in this manner. Very draining and they are glaring head cases. Playing games is for school School children.

George stink thumb has probably never made it to first base..

George ironthumb
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I have ab LTR since 2006. We already have 3 children. You can check my Facebook account (George Frederick Romasanta) if you want proof, you punkass schoolboy

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If she puts up with your games – your woman ( duly noted she is not your wife) is a complete and utter fool. More so for pooping out your likeness. You POS

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What’s a POS?

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“Piece of shit”.

Patrick Henry
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Tits or GTFO.

George -Ironthumb- Romasanta
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Then show us a “Field Test” on how you dumped “punks” who act in this manner – something tells me you have actually been bedded by more “badboys” than nice guys

George ironthumb
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@Anti-Gnostic I dont know if that is directed to me or to Petrucio?

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It was actually directed at Petruccio.

George -Ironthumb- Romasanta
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okay…

Baby Shoes
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That’s absolutely correct and I have no patience and tolerance for such behavior.

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Remember this?

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They just don’t get that the world is hard and evil.
Alle women do is select and consume.
-IJ

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You can tell a lot about people by the shows they watch, books they read, etc. Remember that women love watching TV shows and movies about women creating drama.

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LMAO emotional tampon… And you are not wrong either

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As a man you want to be left alone and don’t want drama or conflict.

This actively is used against you by your woman.

Every time you let her get away with a demand and don’t put up a fight, you lose by default.

This causes her shit testing and resentment to build over time.

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Roosh is a middle-aged loser who wants all other men to be losers just like him. Be skeptical of his “advice.”

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LOL. Not losers have women, children, are happy. Losers hate women, play, betray, lie.

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You’re right. Whenever you pose a practical solution for a problem to a bitch, it is outright dismissed if it is even heard. They want “babble”, they want to be listened to, they want they want they want…and in the process take up so much of your time there is nothing left for you. Let them play dolls with themselves. The worst inventions ever conceived were all those aimed at making the drudgery of housework easy; that freed them to pursue absolute useless pastimes like SHOPPING, listening to the brainwashing phlegm of daytime TV and, of course inventing their own rendition of daytime soap operas like SCREWING THY NEIGHBOR.

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You have to live through some of these points to understand how true they are. Well done article.

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… I was really hoping that this (all of these things) was not true of all women, because I’ve really had about enough.

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Well… plenty of women like time alone. But there’s 24 hours in the day, so they still need at least 6-8 hours a day of your attention.

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About 80-90% of truly swallowing the red pill is experiencing the epiphany that you’ll never be able to trust any individual woman, or women as a whole.. more than maybe 80-90% of the time about any topic or event. About 7 years ago I entirely quit believing them, all ages. I clumped in guys I know who are easily led around by women, essentially women in their own mental capacity. It’s improved my life.

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Point #5 is what my own personal and subconscious insight warned me about. In my mind it was expressed as the thought that, no matter how superior I was, I couldn’t defeat the whole world if it was against me, and I saw that it was in fact against me. The way I express my attitude now is, I’m not afraid of women, but I am afraid of the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, the Marine Corps, the Coast Guard, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the Marshall Service, the Secret Service, the Forestry Service, the Department of Commerce, the Department of Labor, the Department of Agriculture, the State police, the Highway Patrol, the Sheriff’s Department, the local P.D., and the local dog catcher.

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And don’t forget the Human Resources Dept! Or maybe that’s Human Remorses.

Aulus Plautius
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and the IRS

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God! HR are such C¥NTS!

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That’s the real problem. There are no more “Villages” or true “Communities” anymore. In fact, the worst facades masquerading as such have multiple female “leaders.” To think men, who themselves, have had their lives up-ended by the very system they defend – divorced cops, military, et al – have no problem for a paycheck forcing other men to become wage-slaves for a nation of whores, proves 1) the almighty paycheck is king now, and 2) there’s a shit-load of beta males indoctrinated into powerful positions where only a corrupt government can allow their existence. For as many “honorable” servicemen as I know, 2-5x that many bitch servicemen exist I’m afraid.

Savannah Landry
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I live in a good community. It is a smaller southern city. I think larger cities are toxic

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If the big cities all burned to the ground, the country would instantly be a better place.

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what about the Gestapo, ths Stasi, Savak, Al kaeda, bin laden’s shade und Interpol? Those fuckers are all over everything, they’d tax our shit if they can figure out how.

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I feel a bit of MGTOW in this article…

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It’s time to remove the stigma from the MGTOW acronym, which at it’s heart simply means a man who carves his own independent path through life; A man who generally gives a finger to feminism, MSM lies and any other forces that would attempt to exploit him.

MGTOW does not mean virgin loser who lives in his parents’ basement. But unfortunately a small subset of MGTOW are exactly that and external forces (Feminists, the MSM and some in the manosphere) have succeeded in labeling *all* MGTOW as such. Time to reclaim the label.

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I’m pretty sure that they got that stigma because they wouldn’t stop attacking the game community.

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Can you prove it was all of them? More than likely it was 20-30 people.

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You mean not all MRAs are like that? k. But Paul Elam was a few years ago (no idea where he stands now).

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No, MRAs are feminized bitches begging for shit. MGTOWs by and large just want to be left alone from the ones I’ve met.

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My bad in conflating the two.

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No big deal, the MGTOW forums are cancer though, maybe where you got that view…

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MGTOW is, to me, a possible outcome to an entirely rational cost:benefit analysis to pursuing relationships with women.

Namely, is the juice worth the squeeze? At my age, increasingly not.

Time vampires indeed.

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Excellent piece.

Lying

Women only care about two things(especially young girls): Their image, and getting their way. Notice how ‘image’ can be anything the girl wants it to be. Honesty, straight-forwardness, straight talk, and reason hinder her goals.
They are burdens to be alleviated from. When she utilizes these traits, it’s merely coincidental, it just so happens to aid the travel down the path she desires. This is why their brain has the ability to hamster, it’s the ultimate adaptive machine. This is what you witness when you back a woman in a corner logic wise and she’s desperate to retain the image of ‘the winner’, she will conjure a new past (a lie). The system rewrites the narrative via omission by redacting her involvement in its own ‘logical destruction’ from the archives, because to have knowledge of the plot would invoke a sense of responsibility. This memory overwrite is used to expel an internal sense of agency and accountability, the fracturing of the foundation on which her special privilege stands upon. If it wasn’t her fault, it must have been an outside force. If it wasn’t her fault, it’s okay to do it again!

Somewhere between an excuse and a lie, she found something to
believe

She re-frames the situation in a way that portrays herself as the victim of unknown circumstance and intentional wrong doing, justifying rebellion and ignorance, but most importantly, absolving her of all guilt. The idea behind this process is to retain the feelings of before, then redirect the blame. Her quest now becomes righteous. She can now proceed to pursue her
self-interest with conviction (read more: here )

It gets better. When all else fails, you didn’t fall for her lies, and she can’t come up with anymore, the woman will escalate the situation and direct the blame on you, regardless if it’s true. The purpose of this escalation is to force you ‘top her’, and get you all amped-up and in an emotional state. If other people witness this, regardless if you were right the whole time, you look like lunatic
and big bad misogynist being ‘violent’ towards a poor poor woman.

To a non-experienced/blue pill man, her conviction and reluctance to
back down throws him off guard and makes him question himself. “Maybe
I was wrong in some way. She wouldn’t be so confident if that weren’t true”. This is also a great example of the male hamster. When he believes the pussy in front of him is driving away, he lowers his standards, rearranges his life, and reframes situations such that she will remain in his life (at least that’s what he believes). She’s using male psychology against himself. This is textbook gaslighting. It’s a psyche attack. Women use language as a weapon , something you never witness with a girl struggling to speak your language.

The worst part of it all is that most women’s lies are white lies. They’re subtle, which is why betas and society go apeshit when you discuss this subject. You give off the image that they’re violent, abusive tyrants with fangs, but the reality of it isn’t anything remarkable. She says it with a straight face, there’s no dramatic music in the background. Nothing much. THIS IS THE WHOLE POINT. Powertalk and subtlty provide plausible deniability for her (social
image), it allows other people’s hamsters to fill in the vague portrait she has painted.

Don’t bother arguing with women. You’re wasting your time. She knows better or can’t help herself. Women’s well-being is dependent on lies and manipulation because they are not physically and mentally capable of doing things themselves, or if they are, they’re too lazy.

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Excellent. Very amusing article.

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I am over 40 and have ZERO desire for marriage, kids or time vampires. I have a dog if I need a companion. To me, at this point all that women offer is SEX. It is easier and less of a hassle to rent a woman.

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Anyone who wants kids, esp in the manosphere, has been duped by the culture they try so hard to rally against.

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Unfortunately, you are an enemy to Western Civilization. You have a duty to sire 5 or more white offspring rather than be a drain on our society. Failure to meet this responsibility subjects you to a life of loneliness and cats.

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By all means, go ahead and create 5 more victims to throw into the this cultural mess by deluding yourself into thinking you have a chance at winning this thing.

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Marriage and children are “cultural messes”? Talk about delusion.

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What a stupid, dishonest reply. I guess it would be pointless for me to point out that she disn’t write that children are cultural messes, but would be victims of the cultural mess.

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Don’t be an ass. Children being born are not going to be victims of this “cultural mess”.

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I know you’re from pol. Like most there, you are red pilled on race, but not women.

Marraige has become a tool to control men. Jews use propaganda to control women. Therefore, marraige is a tool used by jews to control white men. He has already had three children, more than your autistic ass has done to save the white race.

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What is “winning?” Dying alone in your feces-strewn game room? The nice thing about a family is you create your own culture.

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You guys all whine and pout about how the west is in trouble/collapsing and in order to prevent yourselves from sinking into depression have come up with the idiotic idea that having a few kids will change things. I bet you guys believe in a christian god as well. Go ahead, carry on with your delusions.

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I prefer White repatriation from countries like South Africa, Mexico or Argentina, rather than pressure on Whites living in White majority countries to have children, I am White living in Mexico and I wanna be out from here, it doesn’t make sense that my ancestors prefered to live here than in Europe, damn.

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You know it’s summer when the newfags come around.

Show some situational awareness.

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so you’re an evolutionary dead-end and you don’t care.

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Why should anyone care about serving evolution? Is he your relative or something? If it’s about ‘serving humanity’, is the best way you can do this by passing on your particular configuration of genes (most of which are passed on through your relatives), or by your actions during your life?

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5 and 6 are good advice, the other points I found subjective, after all.

For 5 there is even a fitting saying in German: “Tinder oder Kinder” (Tinder or children). That’s why I find overuse of smartphones, epitomized in the eternal swiping gesture, more offputting in women than smoking. It immediately raises my suspicion about a Fakebook addict or, worse, a F*ckbook slut, but at least an unsecure person who gives too much on the opinion of others.

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And where exactly do you find German women, or Western women in general, that are not smartphone addicts?

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You can’t. German women are useless for partnership.

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Great article!

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I wouldn’t expect that your parents are divorced, since you talked about their traditionalism. The best way to internalize the red pill wisdom is to see how the female mentality pervades even your closest family members, including mother and sisters. When I noticed that, I fucking woke to reality. AWALT.

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My ex has decided to stay in contact with my mother and sister, both aged-adults of course. After inquiring to my sister if she’d heard from the ex her fucking response was;”Yea, we’ve talked a few times, just because you two are split up doesn’t mean I have to stop contact with her.” I clump my own family members right in the same bin as ex-lying-2-faced-hoes. Sad but reality… there is no respect or decency among females across the board.

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Why can’t they still like her even though you’ve split up? Wouldn’t it be a bigger lie to pretend they are not friends?

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Your ex dumped you didn’t she? Why else were you curious about her? Maybe she had good reason. And possibly your female family members are privy to your being a turd. Good for them for seeing that. If the people closest to you are not taking your side on this one maybe- just maybe the problem is you.

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Keep banging!
Fuck marriage or children! Clone yourself!

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great post roosh.
having game is only half of the component to maintaining a healthy relationship. The other half is having her in an environment that tells hers to “cherish your man, be faithful, have children.” Otherwise you will lose.
spitting absolute fire my G

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Lucid insight Roosh. I agree with everything 100%. I think the best measure of suitability for a potential wife/mate/baby mama is mental health. My best LTR was with a girl who was reasonably sane. Looking back on it, I was crazier than she was and that’s what led to the end of the relationship (I cheated). If her mental health is relatively good, she won’t suffer from extreme boredom and seek drama so much. The factors that I look for to indicate good mental health are:

1) She was raised by both parents in a healthy marriage

2) Her mother is a good role model

3) Her father is masculine

4) Her family is Christian

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The jaded side of me has observed that none of the really attractive women I’ve known have simultaneously been sane.

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Roosh: error in #4, 1st paragraph

“and rationalize it by saying they what she’s doing is actually different”

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There’s a severe disconnect in this article if you’re going to arrive at the conclusion that “you wouldn’t mind having children.” Why, so they can experience the world you break down in the paragraphs above? Or are you so deluded that you think you can protect them from the degenerate culture?

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You’re an idiot. Just because you recognize that the culture is fucked up and most women are sluts, you don’t have to relegate yourself to becoming an evolutionary dead-end (not to mention dying alone).

If you don’t have kids because “the culture is fucked up,” then you are letting the fucked-up culture win. You are basically surrendering to the globalist culture and accepting that you will never pass on your genes (while believing that you are somehow winning).

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How is passing on your genes a sign of winning? That just makes you a slave to evolution. In your books, was Genghis Khan the greatest winner in all of human history?

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Didn’t realize I was required to procreate in order to live a valid existence. Unfortunately, I’m all out of fucks to give.

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Lol. You give so few fucks that you took the time to respond to a month-old comment.

And yes, for most people (normal people at least), procreation and raising a family is important and absolutely necessary in order to live a “valid” (or meaningful) existence.

Your ancestors would be very ashamed of you if they found out that their bloodline (or at least that part of their bloodline) ended with you.

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When you say stupid shit on the internet and a month later someone comes across it and comments on it; that doesn’t mean they give a fuck about your opinion. It just means they think you’re stupid and they happened to have a moment to let you know.
My ancestors are dead, so I doubt they give a fuck whether or not I procreate and I frankly wouldn’t care if they did. They’re not the ones who would have to bring children up in an overpopulated, shallow, selfish world.

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I’d be ashamed if you were my son.

“My ancestors are dead, so I doubt they give a fuck…”

With comments like that, you might as well be pissing on their graves.

I don’t really care what you do in your life (whether you procreate or not). I don’t know you, and frankly, based on your idiotic comments, the rest of us are probably better off if you don’t.

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You seem to care as you made a blaket statement to the effect of “if you don’t procreate, you’re life is worthless”. Fuck off and mind your own god damned business.

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You’re right, I did make a statement to that effect.

However, I don’t care if you live a worthless life because I don’t know you, and you don’t seem like the type of person I would want to know, either.

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“They like being taken out, doted on, entertained, and so on. This explains why they will go on dates with men they don’t even like, because the act of going out and being “hunted” by a man is so extremely validating.”

Geez… it’s so true, waste my money but don’t waste my time
Last year I had 1 particular girl go on a 2nd date with me. No escalation. Clearly, she just wanted to waste my time & see me out the moves on her.

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Many good points, although I am bit skeptical about the lying aspect. Not because women don’t lie much – they do – but men score higher in the dark triad, including Machiavellianism. In other words they are even more manipulative on average. Men value truth and honor more overall, but he also is hypergamous AND produces sperm 24/7-365. How many men haven’t been unfaithful and lied about it? How many haven’t got horny just about anytime?

Believe me, my girlfriend is very attractive, but there is always some other girl here and there that is somewhat differerent and I wanna bang every now and then. Or they might even me about the same, even slightly worse face-wise, but then they show their legs in summer time and my divine snake (the Devil?) will be petrified within 5 seconds.

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Lots of those issues can be solved by motherhood in a healthy marital relationship if laws were not undermining that.

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It’s amazing how many manosphere types are suckered into thinking that things were so good back in the good old days, when society wasn’t against us. Have you not read an ounce of history?

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The old days are far superior in comparison with our day. I don’t deny problems. But they were minimized. And more easily solvable.

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They were not minimized, they were covered up. I’m sure you watched Mad Men, which was a hit in the manosphere due to alpha Don. Sorry pal but things were no better in the good old days.

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Mad Men was fiction.

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How are they covered up? And no I am not talking about technology but social technology.Chesterton’s fence are you familar with? And no there is no such thing as perfection. Only better. The old days were better socially speaking compared to now.

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A lot of fucked up shit went on back then and nobody talked about it. A lot of child molestation happened, maybe even more than now. Nobody talked about that. Hell no! Bullying and racism was completely acceptable and even encouraged to a point. Just because there were more single income households doesn’t mean people weren’t fucked up.

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We don’t know unless there is documentation. Because anyone can make the claims you make.

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In addition “traditionalism” especially Patriarchy is quite recent 10000 compared to the countless years of stone age existence . It is a new artificial social technology that helped build civilization. The fact that its so easily torn down shows its fragility and the struggle to maintain it generation after generation.

“Garbage generation ” PDF is a good resource on this.

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Smart phones alone completely trump that thought, and that’s just a device, add in the social media and dating apps… and I have to ask, are you being serious? Life was physically harder, but the rewards when gained were more steadfast, and concrete. As late as 1930s women were being sent to insane asylums for marital adultery… in the history books.

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Titan000 is a deluded fool, like most.

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Long term monogamy does not work for women and much less for men and it has never did despite the idea you guys have of the supposedly perfect 1950’s American family.

I agree with the rest of the article 100% but I don’t understand why so many red pill men still believe or look for a monogamous LTR knowing it’s impossible. I’m sorry but that’s as blind as getting married knowing the chances of a divorce rape.

I believe in family as the the primary and most important social block but we need to act based on reality.

Hypergamy/serial monogamy and polygamy are the female and male sexual strategies and they are far, far away from long term “forever” monogamy no matter what.

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These guys are wishing upon a star that things can return to the glorified 50s or 60s, when in truth those times were no better. But it just proves the point that both men and women are delusional. Delusion is the way of the human.

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It takes a person of high moral standard and integrity, but yes, it is certainly possible and really not all that uncommon.

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When I say it has never worked I mean it.

Back in the “good old days”, long term monogamy and perfect families only seemed to work fine every Sunday at the church. When people went back to their homes, that was a different story.

Moral standards and integrity play no role in this, people have cheated since the very first marriages were arranged the day after the invention of farming. At least back in the day people knew marriages were nothing more than business between families, nothing more. No one can seriously say it makes sense to spend 40 years having sex with just one single person and claim that it’s fine. it doesn’t work and millions upon millions of attorneys, “lovers” and hookers could say a thing or two about this.

Back in the day, I insist, people pretended that everything was going by the book. Far from it.

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Looks like we have a sock puppet here–CSR and Rmax GenActive Pua Mgtow.

“Back in the “good old days”, long term monogamy and perfect families only seemed to work fine every Sunday at the church. When people went back to their homes, that was a different story.”

Specific evidence to back up your assertion?

“Moral standards and integrity play no role in this, people have cheated since the very first marriages were arranged the day after the invention of farming.”

If people cheat outside of marriage, moral standards and integrity do play an integral role here. You make it appear that cheating was widespread and rampant. Again, if you are going to make this claim, you better have proof.

“At least back in the day people knew marriages were nothing more than business between families, nothing more.”

People knew marriage was for business purposes AND to cement their relationship with God.

“No one can seriously say it makes sense to spend 40 years having sex with just one single person and claim that it’s fine.”

Of course people can say this seriously. You just refuse to believe it to be true.

Your line of thinking is irrational. Clearly, you hate the world and yourself. Feel free to live your life in the dark. Leave the world building to us white men.

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“Specific evidence to back up your assertion?”

Yes. It’s called sexual strategy. Lifelong monogamy is completely artificial. Sexual monogamy is not the cornerstone of the Western civilization. Families are.

Having a family is completely unrelated with being forced to have sex with absolutely only one person for the rest of your life. That’s ridiculous and delusional.

“You make it appear that cheating was widespread and rampant. Again, if you are going to make this claim, you better have proof.”

Proof: prostitution has existed since the dawn of mankind. Mix that with the fact that people got married even before being 20 years old.

“People knew marriage was for business purposes AND to cement their relationship with God.”

Religion was meant as a population control system. As you can see, now that it is not needed it has become completely irrelevant. Marriage, to arrive virgin at it, adultery forbidden: all of this was invented to avoid non legitimate kids, that is: birth control and avoid inheritance conflicts. Condoms and contraceptive pills were invented historically one second ago.

“Of course people can say this seriously. You just refuse to believe it to be true.”

They can believe whatever they want, the facts and reality say otherwise.

“Your line of thinking is irrational. Clearly, you hate the world and yourself. Feel free to live your life in the dark. Leave the world building to us white men.”

You have a serious delusional issue. Take the stupid religious and Disney bullshit out of your head and then talk about being rational.

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“Yes. It’s called sexual strategy. Lifelong monogamy is completely artificial.”

Lifelong monogamy is the normal standard in any civilization. Left unchecked, the marriage market would become unbalanced by monopolists, resulting in large numbers of unmarriagable men; and such men tend to become a hazard to themselves and to others. From an evolutionary standpoint, monogamous societies are better equipped at preserving the gene pool.

“Sexual monogamy is not the cornerstone of the Western civilization. Families are.”

No. Families by which there is one man as head of the household and one woman, his bride and helpmate.

“Having a family is completely unrelated with being forced to have sex with absolutely only one person for the rest of your life. That’s ridiculous and delusional.”

It is absolutely related. The stability of a family depends upon the strength of the union between a man and a woman and their commitment to sexual fidelity. From an evolutionary and historical perspective, the attention to properly taking care of children is significantly reduced when a man or a woman is heavily invested in securing sex outside of their bond. The rates of depression and juvenile delinquency among children in particular increase when one parent or both parents are focusing on meeting their most base urges.

“Proof: prostitution has existed since the dawn of mankind. Mix that with the fact that people got married even before being 20 years old.”

Just because there is prostitution does not mean that it lead to widespread and rampant cheating. You have to clearly establish this connection. Men may be single or divorced and secure the services of whores, What is the overall percentage of American men who use prostitutes?
What are their reasons? Then you could start making the argument if this number is relatively high.

“Religion was meant as a population control system.”

Religion is for people to achieve salvation for oneself and others, and to render due worship and obedience to God. Christianity was the prime conveyor of Western Civilization by facilitating conversion. Certainly through this process would it behoove its adherents to have children.

“As you can see, now that it is not needed it has become completely irrelevant.”

Religion is still very much relevant today.

“Marriage, to arrive virgin at it, adultery forbidden: all of this was invented to avoid non legitimate kids, that is:”

“They can believe whatever they want, the facts and reality say otherwise.”

You are making up things as you go along.

“You have a serious delusional issue. Take the stupid religious and Disney bullshit out of your head and then talk about being rational.”

All your lies are belong to us.

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“Lifelong monogamy is the normal standard in any civilization.”

Normal, standard and civilization, ergo as artificial as a skyscraper.

“Left unchecked, the marriage market would become unbalanced by monopolists, resulting in large numbers of unmarriagable men; and such men tend to become a hazard to themselves and to others.”

That’s why marriage, that is forced long term monogamy (or at least faking it) was invented. Congratulations, you are beginning to understand the subject. Change unmarriagable by sex starved and here you go.

“From an evolutionary standpoint, monogamous societies are better equipped at preserving the gene pool.”

Or, at least we could say these societies are sustainable.

“No. Families by which there is one man as head of the household and one woman, his bride and helpmate.”

Again, nothing to do with sexual monogamy.

“The stability of a family depends upon the strength of the union between a man and a woman and their commitment to sexual fidelity.”

Remove sexual fidelity and there you go. It’s the man that has to be alpha enough to make sure he has at least a few sexual options besides his wife. This is not the 1950s anymore. And yes, it’s much more difficult than ever. As a man you are pretty much required to be as alpha as possible because societal programming no longer protects you.

“From an evolutionary and historical perspective, the attention to properly taking care of children is significantly reduced when a man or a woman is heavily invested in securing sex outside of their bond. The rates of depression and juvenile delinquency among children in particular increase when one parent or both parents are focusing on meeting their most base urges.”

Who says you need thaaaaat much time? It doesn’t have to be a sex orgy 24/7. Plus, if the man is alpha enough, the woman will have much less need of finding other partners. Remember they have 10 times less testosterone.

“Just because there is prostitution does not mean that it lead to widespread and rampant cheating.”

Prostitution is not the cause but the effect. And I didn’t say widespread. A little action on the side from time to time is more than enough.

Nothing else to say about religion, irrationality is your problem, not mine.

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“Normal, standard and civilization, ergo as artificial as a skyscraper.”

Nope. People forming civilizations is a natural occurrence.

“That’s why marriage, that is forced long term monogamy (or at least faking it) was invented. Congratulations, you are beginning to understand the subject. Change unmarriagable by sex starved and here you go.”

Monogamy was not “invented”. It is a natural process by which civilization sustains itself.

“Again, nothing to do with sexual monogamy.”

Sexual monogamy is the crux for Western Civilization.

“Remove sexual fidelity and there you go. It’s the man that has to be alpha enough to make sure he has at least a few sexual options besides his wife. This is not the 1950s anymore. And yes, it’s much more difficult than ever. As a man you are pretty much required to be as alpha as possible because societal programming no longer protects you.”

Men are not required to be an alpha to secure a woman and remain faithful. It’s called self-discipline.

“Who says you need thaaaaat much time? It doesn’t have to be a sex orgy 24/7. Plus, if the man is alpha enough, the woman will have much less need of finding other partners. Remember they have 10 times less testosterone.”

Again, men do not need to be “alpha enough” to be in a committed one to one relationship. You are not fooling anyone here.

“Nothing else to say about religion, irrationality is your problem, not mine.”

Because it is easy for you not to be held accountable for your actions. Your kind is a danger to Western Civilization.

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Traditional values: “a little action on the side”.

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Anti-Gnostic, while I agree with your points, I find your constant demands for ‘evidence’ and ‘proof’ to be annoying, distracting, and out of context for a comment section on a blog, This isn’t a college thesis paper or a legal brief, it’s an internet debate. Lose the academic bearing and debate within the context of the venue.

Read this:

Critical Thinking & The Citation Needed Fallacy

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Well, it worked for my parents and it’s working for me. And I am very happy. It really depends on the individual and their values. Plus some of us can control ourselves when faced with temptation… while others cannot. Sex is not the most important thing in life for everyone. Cheating happens because people feel emotionally tied to their partner but are otherwise really not interested in them anymore, and they either lack the courage to break off the relationship or else they’re tied up with other obstacles such as children (which they should have been more responsible about having to begin with). But it certainly is possible to find one person who you’re willing to spend the rest of your life with, have a family, and grow old together, faithfully. Is it “meant” to be that way? There is no right or wrong answer. Again, it depends on the individual. You are free to live your life how you choose but you can’t decide what’s right for others.

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“Well, it worked for my parents and it’s working for me.”

You have no idea if they have cheated or not. Don’t confuse “still together” with “they have never cheated on each other”. Completely different concepts. And it applies to your relationship too. Keep adding years and we’ll see. And you’ll never know if she has already cheated on you if she doesn’t want to be caught because women are much better liars.

“It really depends on the individual and their values.”

No, it depends on biology. Societal pressure can delay the inevitable a little, nothing more. And in today’s western countries, societal pressure is negative: hypergamy out of control. They are telling women to cheat and dump the current loser at the slightest opportunity.

“Cheating happens because people feel emotionally tied to their partner but are otherwise really not interested in them anymore”

You are describing 1:1 a serial monogamy system, which means basically the female sexual strategy. A man doesn’t work like this at all.

“But it certainly is possible to find one person who you’re willing to spend the rest of your life with, have a family, and grow old together, faithfully.”

100% agreed except the “faithfully” part. It’s only possible with a very, very, very low sexual drive couple but that’s very, very rare.

“You are free to live your life how you choose but you can’t decide what’s right for others.”

I’ve said nothing about right or wrong. I repeat there’s no morality or “rightfulness” involved here.

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Morals are definitely involved because you know what happens when two people mate… they have children! You see it isn’t all about our selfish, sexual desires. You want to talk about biology… we are actually programmed to take care of children, yet they suffer when brought up in a non-monogamous environment. (Unless it is done in a controlled manner and is kept hidden from the child). But naturally, no child wants to see their parents split up or screwing around with other people. This is why people stay together, and remain faithful, because they value their children, and their spouse. For some, keeping the family together is more important than sexual impulses. I’m not going to bother trying to justify how well I know my parents, since I don’t think it will have any effect. But for my own marriage, I can assure you that I don’t remain faithful due to societal pressure. I do this because I hold myself to a very high standard, as I do those around me. And it’s a non-issue when you pick a partner who you’re compatible with… sex drive has nothing to do with it, and you can still have a very good sex life in your older years, though it takes a lot of work to get to that point (something most people couldn’t be bothered with). But I agree with you about western culture and it’s impact on women. I actually believe that feminism is primarily responsible for the division we see between men and women.

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“You see it isn’t all about our selfish, sexual desires.”

They are not selfish, they just “are” and these urges are inevitable. You can correctly manage them but trying to suppress them is impossible. If we knew the real statistics we wouldn’t believe the huge amount of de facto non monogamous couples out there, either by cheating (lying) or by an open agreement, regardless of what they say to others.

Men have evolved to be loyal to the mother of their children (loyal, not sexually faithful). Women are evolved to jump off the wagon to the next better available man (hypergamy). You can not avoid that and you can not expect a woman to be loyal the same way you are, that’s delusional and you don’t have the gigantic societal programming that was up un running a generation and a half ago. Not in the west.

“(Unless it is done in a controlled manner and is kept hidden from the child)”

Well said. See?

“This is why people stay together, and remain faithful, because they value their children, and their spouse.”

Again: family is different than sexual monogamy.

“And it’s a non-issue when you pick a partner who you’re compatible with… sex drive has nothing to do with it”

Please, are you serious?

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people like 666 are too invested in their “religion” to see the truth. they’re no different than the religious who believe in a particular god and worship him

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There are estimates that a good third of all people have different fathers than they believe to be theirs.

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“Long term monogamy does not work for women and much less for men and it has never did despite the idea you guys have of the supposedly perfect 1950’s American family.”

Considering that Western Civilization was built in large part on monogamous marriages AND that hundreds of thousands of couples have been faithful in their union for decades–until death due us part, your assertion is horrifically false.

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Wrong, western civilisation for over 10,000 years was built on polygamy & paganism, while monogamy less then 800 years. Christianity even less.

You christian illiterates need to stop lying about history, & stop pushing your deranged monogamy on society.

Forcing people to have sex with one person for over 40 years, has never worked, not even in the 1950’s.

Nothing more then typical christian lunacy …

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“Wrong, western civilisation for over 10,000 years was built on polygamy & paganism, while monogamy less then 800 years. Christianity even less.”

Patently false. The uniqueness of Western Civilization is that its culture and traditions are separate from the backwards civilizations (spelled correctly here) found in Asia and Africa. Heterosexual, monogamous marriage is a defining feature of the West, its special status guaranteed because of its critical importance in creating and nurturing (white) children.

Have you sired at least five white offspring, or you a biological degenerate who is a vampire feeding off what real white men have built?

“You christian illiterates need to stop lying about history, & stop pushing your deranged monogamy on society.”

We live in a society where citizens create norms and rules. Feel free to break them at your peril.

“Forcing people to have sex with one person for over 40 years, has never worked, not even in the 1950’s.”

When you use the term “never”, all it takes is a simple fact to destroy your assertion. Millions of couples have willingly chosen to remain monogamous over the centuries. Your position has been effectively neutered.

“Nothing more then typical christian lunacy”

Your line of thinking is irrational. Clearly, you hate the world and yourself. Feel free to live your life in the dark. Leave the world building to us white men.

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In short you cant dispute the facts, keep trying cucked tard

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I employed dialectic. You need to respond in kind rather than resort to your default button of idiocy. Repeating “cucked tard” only demonstrates your lack of ability to muster up a cogent response. It is other than masculine.

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I’ll tweak your words just a tad by pointing out that things aren’t normal in the white western world right now. We’re in a demographic nosedive and intact families will be in survival mode soon.

Specifically red pill white men should seek two white women to breed by whether or not they are registered by the state. The state can fold but the blooldine never dies. I’m not talking polygamy which is vaguely defined as more than one spouse, but specifically polygyny (one man – two wives).

‘Three is a magic number’. A polygynous union is the strongest structure next to the synthetic diamond and is the hedge the white man needs to throw off the anti family forces. No nanny state proselytizer can get their foot in your door when the sisterwives always watch each other’s back. Small tight clan sisterwives rarely defect and abandon the nest. All matters are settled at the table and the man never has to worry about leaving the lone monogamous woman at home for 8 hours with a screaming newborn only to return home and find a note that reads “gone to my mother’s to get some space”. The flaking is reduced 90% when two gyno rhinos are pulling the reigns on the home front. ALSO two breeders is better than one and damn if the white race doesn’t need to step things up.

THE ARGUMENT that you’re stealing wives from other men is a moot point since the hapless sub betas and omegas are perfectly satisfied with robots, prostitutes and some schlub betas even wife up prostitutes and then divorce them, thus rotating the dumb whores around like a library book.

BUT THE VIRTUOUS and righteous whites demand better. TWO PURE VIRGINS tamed and domesticated is the answer. So REV UP that baby machine girls. “boom bam one two boom chicka bam one two” repeat.

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Survival mode. And during stable times, raising a family with two domesticated wies is 200% easier for all three since down time for the man is eliminated. ‘Down time’ is where the man has to leave work when the water breaks or he has to lose sleep and race on bald tires and 1000 mile sludge oil at 1:00am to fetch diapers. With two wives, the roof is always fixed and even the 67 Chevelle sparkles in the garage alongside the tractor. Whereas the ruffled and harred monogamous man sweats as he fumbles the kitchen drawer for a butter knife to fix the vacuum cleaner as the monogamous wife screams and threatens to drown their lone white toddler in the tub because he knocked the box of tampons into the water. Does a man even need to be there? A sister wife would handle it all and make lovely chicken salad out of that kind of situation. DOUBLE IT UP white man!!

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It is evident that MCGOO, Rmax, and CSR are the same poster.

“I’ll tweak your words just a tad by pointing out that things aren’t normal in the white western world right now.”

It’s not about the “white western world”, it’s about humanity and how it is charting its course in light of political and social upheaval.

“We’re in a demographic nosedive and intact families will be in survival mode soon.”

White men and women, despite your protestations, are marrying and having children. They are other in “survival mode”. Perhaps not in the prescribed numbers you personally find satisfying, but nonetheless this phenomenon is observable.

“Specifically red pill white men should seek two white women to breed by whether or not they are registered by the state. The state can fold but the blooldine never dies. I’m not talking polygamy which is vaguely defined as more than one spouse, but specifically polygyny (one man – two wives).”

You assume that all white men must act and think in a prescribed manner. Instead, we have always taken our own path, mindful of the social norms we created.

‘A patriarchal polygynous union is the strongest structure next to the synthetic diamond and is the hedge the white man needs to throw off the anti family forces.”

In reality, such relationships lead to sexually transmitted diseases, infertility, and mental health complications. Moreover, this arrangement tends to be characterized by frequent jealousy and internal competition. If you want to live this lifestyle, go right ahead. But your insistence that the society you live in ought to adhere to this

“ALSO two breeders is better than one and damn if the white race doesn’t need to step things up.”

Assuming that the end all and be all of the white race is to make babies and look out for their “own kind”. Most white men and women do not subscribe to your point of view. Again, feel free to live in this manner you personally feel comfortable with.

“THE ARGUMENT that you’re stealing wives from other men is a moot point since the hapless sub betas and omegas are perfectly satisfied with robots, prostitutes and some schlub betas even wife up prostitutes and then divorce them, thus rotating the dumb whores around like a library book.”

You are resorting to mischaracterizing men to suit your own narrative.

“BUT THE VIRTUOUS and righteous whites demand better. TWO PURE VIRGINS tamed and domesticated is the answer. So REV UP that baby machine girls. “boom bam one two boom chicka bam one two” repeat.”

No, YOU believe that whites deserve better. YOU believe it is the answer. But in the end we will make our decisions in the best interests for our society. If you seek to extricate yourself, be our guests.

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I like your out of the box hardcore approach

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Ok, so just give up, and accept that you will be an evolutionary dead-end and die alone. No skin off my back.

The guys in here pretending that they don’t need a woman are the deluded
ones. It’s kind of a “sour grapes” situation. Since you have not found a good woman worthy of marriage, you are now saying “I never wanted to get married anyway. I don’t want children.”

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Solution to her lack of purpose is motherhood.

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`I don’t pay prostitutes for sex, I pay them to leave`

Wise words.
(Not that I tend to see prostitutes)

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This is very true. I am also trying to figure out ways of protecting my assets and investment property if i get a wife one day. In australia a man can work his whole life and if his girlfriend lives with him for only one year she will get half of what he owns if she takes him to court. If it took you thirty years to accumulate $10 million. She gets five. Million. For one year. Of doing nothing. She will get even more if there are kids involved. Absolute craziness. Wickedness even.

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It is pure evil. The evil of feminism and leftism. It is a creed of death and destruction.

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Imagine the progress that could be made if all the filched assets from men, by women, were added up and put into business ventures to further humanity ! I wonder how many trillion that equates to..

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Frivorce was all a shit test to see if the citizens wouldn’t raise above the level of cuckery to lop the heads off the enablers, promoters and enforcers of nannystatism/feminism. If the shit test was failed, then the next phase is drowning the culture in non western boat people. Get ready with a life raft whether you’re single or not.

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Great article! Thanks

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Roosh V, I think you have mommy issues. Haha. What a sorry ass loser. If you’re so big, tough, and alpha…there is no reason not to score your dream wife who doesn’t exist. Where is she? You’re still a single, hairy, ugly loserrrrrrrrrr. Hahahahahaha.

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You sound extremely intelligent. Are you an author or a poet?

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Out of curiosity, what interests would you deem suitable for a young single woman? Yoga? Baking? Photography? Rock climbing?

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Baking’s a step in the right direction

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Yoga could be good, too – if they focus on the stretching and flexibility part and leave out all the mumbo-jumbo and virtue signalling. Probably impossible.

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The bottom line is all anyone does is on this planet is try to delude itself into the idea that it’s accomplishing something, when in reality no one has ever accomplished anything, men and women alike. We’re all the fools of DNA’s replication game.

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How myopic. It’s not your fault you frame the game like that. The MANFRAME sees beyond. You lack the BEARD, the BRAINS and the BEEFSTICK, that’s all. Sit on man’s shoulder my little furby and you can see civilization is the grasp of our species.

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Sit and hold my beard while I adjust my balls. I did say civilization.

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Civilization here we go. If you can interface with the MANBRAIN then get ready and hold on to my BEEFSTIIICK – –
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Wait. I thought you were that other chick. Sorry dude. No skin. . .

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I thought you were a chick. My bad.

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The best hobby for a single woman, virginity & keeping your legs shut

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“I don’t want to experience a divorce like my parents did”.

This.

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Divorce is painful. The women propagating it are the ultimate child-abusers, government second. Funny how those who give birth ruin the very lives they create in mass. Great “society” we’ve made.

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Well-stated. You have no idea how many women I’ve encountered who are just horrible mothers. It disgusts me to no end. Using their children as an excuse to take selfies, paying attention to their iPhones instead of their kids, and basically putting everything ahead of their kids: their friends, their jobs, their egos… and meanwhile they are creating monsters

I am one of the few people whose parents are still together. I can’t fathom the pain a divorce brings to a family

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Here’s my observation.

The male is the host/master/leader. The female is the parasite/slave/follower.

Hence the animal world had alphas, queens, betas and whores. But this internal conflict in society made it highly unstable for survival.

The human world implemented a solution: marriage.
Both males and females were expected to become men and women by committing to the husband-wife relationship and learning from each other’s strengths. Building block of every great society.

Whenever this solution has no longer been implemented, sex driven betas (puas and cucks) and hypergamous whores (sluts and princesses) have managed to ruin society.
Gays and lesbians and whatnot are dysfunctional lesser solutions.

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Marriage is more an imposed contract allowing the state to impose rules and police the union. I think it’s pair bonding that needs highlighted here. Pair bonding is basically the paleo root of coherent civilization. Whores cannot pair bond. State licenced marriage today is nothing but a form of marriage-lite that has been boobey trapped with ambiguous penalties and litiguous subversion. Wheras the attraction and cohesion of pair bonding is primarily chemical and exists aloof and superior to state cannon law.

Whoredem runs deeper than the skin. Whores lack the chemicals to pair bond so the label ‘whoremonal’ fits. Whereas a virgin is hormonally, pheromonally and chemically fit to pair bond. A virgin is chemically sound to POUND if you seek lengthy loyalty and service. As with domesticating any animal or work beast, ripping into a fresh virgin and then properly training and managing her can provide years of loyal service. No family court has to enforce anything and a marriage certificate is but a scrap of unnecessary paper. Body chemicals and hormones do the policing.

The state could never single handedly prop up civilization and the family unit. The state only taxes, polices, regulates and stifles creativity. It is nature and chemicals that form the family unit and it is a collective of families of refined bloodlines that civilize on their own and that spread and proliferate civilized life by the example they set. No one belts and prods a refined bloodlne to create and develop or to move foreward and civilize. The propensity is in their refined blood. And conversely hut squatters will be hut squatters – or they will be borrowed for a moment to be tobacco leaf pickers. And beavers will build dams.

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Since the hippie elites in modern times have corrupted the term “marriage”, you are more than welcome to differentiate from it by using “pair bonding”.

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“Marriage is more an imposed contract allowing the state to impose rules and police the union.”

You do realize that the states is composed of citizens who agree to be governed by specific rules they come up with, right? We made these regulations and live by them. Attraction and cohesion notwithstanding, a society survives and thrives due to people establishing norms.

“As with domesticating any animal or work beast, ripping into a fresh sweet smelling virgin and then properly training and managing her can provide years of loyal service. No family court has to enforce anything and a marriage certificate is but a scrap of unnecessary paper. Body chemicals and hormones do the policing.”

Please inform us how you have engaged in this particular process. Offer visual evidence as to how and why your wife is at your beck and call or retract your odious statement.

“The state could never single handedly prop up civilization and the family unit. The state only taxes, polices, regulates and stifles creativity.”

Considering that numerous human civilizations have been built in part based on the stability of governmental institutions, your assertion is horrifically false.

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Registering and recording your union by having a state seal of approval on your marriage isn’t what it used to be. It puts too many kill switches into the hands of the woman and it makes ambiguous the tools and methology you can use to keep your bloodline consistant and the woman as a happy and given servant to the patriarch.

A master of long term family game finds the state marriage proposal to be punitive at every turn and a treacherous nuisance. Say you’ve got your virgin wife gamed down good into the first quarter. She’s a pattern-fucking cooking machine, cranking out offspring, flipping and rotating like a fertile Iowa field but the state has a million infractions they can throw at you. In an area of societal dynamic zoned for bombing and takeover by the nanny state, they could get you for spousal rape alone. What an open ended law. With cross examination, “did you confirm “yes” three times as big daddy Bob re entered the room to deposit his load?” . . “why no he had to run get his boogey wipes from the bathroom. He sneezes right before he blasts” . . “so you didn’t restart the process of the ten basic confirmations is that correct. Was there intimidation?”

See, the system will go against the woman’s will if they have to, forcing her hand against the man. It’s a hostile intrusion into the patriarchal family unit with the goal of atomizing bloodlines and forcing nanny state control in the form of state insurance.

Insurance racketeers (the protection people) are ruthless underdogs in every corrupt state. Pay your dues to them by surrendering your soverignty to govern your clan and no one gets hurt. That’s not protection and women’s advocacy is exactly that farce.

No man who properly games his wife or wives needs any help from the state. A state marriage at best might keep a few betas from pursuing a weak whore wife in social settings but that’s about it. “Uuh Larry she’s got a ring on but she lifted her skirt at me and she got no panties.” “Better not if she’s got a ring Hank. Let’s order another pitcher”. A whore wife doesn’t even need that ‘protection’ from the state policing racket. A state marriage is still a complete imposition on a man who knows how to properly game and control his woman. A well spun hamster is always happy, always spinning back like a yo-yo, and always ready to be ‘spousally raped’. If a woman is high maintenance, losing her shit if you leave her for half a day on her own two feet, then we all know of the water dunking tricks that cure unnecessary needy bouts and return her to sewing and tit feeding. But the modern state would hang a modern man for pulling any of the old tricks out of the pre feminist era bag.

If marriage is a contract, then it is a vow that you and your spouse make with God almighty above and not the state. Fuck the state. If a woman doesn’t stand by you, no piece of paper from the courthouse means shit. Let God rain down chemicals and happy pheromones upon your family.

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“It puts too many kill switches into the hands of the woman and it makes ambiguous the tools and methology you can use to keep your bloodline consistant and the woman as a happy and given servant to the patriarch.”

The kill switches are found in the hands of men and women. Get it straight.

“A master of long term family game finds the state marriage proposal to be punitive at every turn and a treacherous nuisance.”

YOU find it punitive. Hence, you are not married and are a biological dead end.

“Say you’ve got your virgin wife gamed down good into the first quarter. She’s a pattern-fucking cooking machine, cranking out offspring, flipping and rotating like a fertile Iowa field but the state has a million infractions they can throw at you. In an area of societal dynamic zoned for bombing and takeover by the nanny state, they could get you for spousal rape alone. What an open ended law. With cross examination, “did you confirm “yes” three times as big daddy Bob re entered the room to deposit his load?” . . “why no he had to run get his boogey wipes from the bathroom. He sneezes right before he blasts” . . “so you didn’t restart the process of the ten basic confirmations is that correct. Was there intimidation?”

Cool story, Bro. You ought to write fiction. Contact Castalia House.

“Insurance racketeers (the protection people) are ruthless underdogs in every corrupt state. Pay your dues to them by surrendering your soverignty to govern your clan and no one gets hurt. That’s not protection and women’s advocacy is exactly that farce.”

Wow, your parents divorce really did a number of you.

“A state marriage is still a complete imposition on a man who knows how to properly game and control his woman.”

It’s put up or shut up time. Show us how you run your game. Visual evidence mandatory.

“If marriage is a contract, then it is a vow that you and your spouse make with God almighty above and not the state. Fuck the state.”

That’s not how life works, my friend. No wonder you are so upset, you have difficulty adhering to the norms of our society.

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Anti-Gnostic: Do you ever make an original post stating points that come from your own thoughts? Because all you do is annoyingly quote other people’s posts, then attack and ridicule them. You have a lot to say, all of it negative.

You brought up Castalia House. Maybe you should spend some time on Vox Day’s Alpha Game Plan blog and do some research on Gamma male behavior; you’ve displayed a ton of gamma tells in this comment thread alone.

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“Anti-Gnostic: Do you ever make an original post stating points that come from your own thoughts? Because all you do is annoyingly quote other people’s posts, then attack and ridicule them. You have a lot to say, all of it negative.”

There are obvious falsehoods that need to be corrected.

“You brought up Castalia House. Maybe you should spend some time on Vox Day’s Alpha Game Plan blog and do some research on Gamma male behavior; you’ve displayed a ton of gamma tells in this comment thread alone.”

Your statement reeks of solipsism. Go make that designation to someone who actually cares about such labels.

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Solipsism! Ha!! Keep going – your ranting is a great object lesson for the rest of us in gamma male behavior and how NOT to behave. Plus, it’s hilarious!

You are a piece of work.

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Are you a single person or a consortium. You went through my symphonic work paragraph by paragraph so quickly. You do admire my grammar right? It’s smooother than a newborn white baby’s butt I know.

Well, I’m not a biological dead end and have bred by two women. Neither married by the state. Figure. Both are honorary marriages and the honor is gladly mine to propogate my bloodline. I teediously tippy toe around the suggestion that I should haul myself into a courthouse and apply for a marriage licence, the same courthouse that sends out socialist workers out the west entrance to collect child support blood money from divorce raped dads and then sends out deputies from the east entrance to serve papers to vacate structures here and there that are one month delinquent on a mortgage balloon payment. What a bunch of rats.

Heh . . I should take my wife’s old gerbil aquarium and put real pet shop rats in it and then decorate it like a courtroom with judges bench, the bailiff’s corner, some tattered state flags. I’ll wait until it is full of rat turds and the flags and bill of rights are chewed up and then I’ll post a pic. I will title it “Where’s the Judge”

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“Are you a single person or a consortium. You went through my symphonic work paragraph by paragraph so quickly. You do admire my grammar right? It’s smooother than a newborn white baby’s butt I know.”

It was easy to cut through your line of bullshit.

“Well, I’m not a biological dead end and have bred by two women. Neither married by the state. Figure. Both are honorary marriages and the honor is gladly mine to propogate my bloodline. I teediously tippy toe around the suggestion that I should haul myself into a courthouse and apply for a marriage licence,”

Violating social norms is your standard operating procedure.

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Gnostic, violating certain social norms is sometimes necessary not just for personal survival, but also for survival of the bloodline when your creed is under attack. You say “one loyal wife” and “mongamy”. I half agree with you. White men need TWO WIVES. Why? Because one single wife won’t build up your sandcastle of progeny high enough before the BROWN TIDE sweeps in. YOU should have two white wives. Every red pill Englishman should have TWO white breeder women under their belt. Yes What YOU NEED Gnostic my bloody Englishman . . . . is TWO WIVES.

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That’s TWO white pussies cranking out offspring like a mad out of control baby machine. RAINING DOWN white offspring onto the great green western pastures. TWO WHITE BITCHES consigned under loyal matrimony, pumping and grunting, frontwards and backwards, up and down like a like a see-saw with YOU THE WHITE DADDY MAN serving as the fulcrum. YOU Gnostic should have two white wives like the American cowboy above.

Contrary to popular assumptions about polygyny (one man – two wives), it’s not like you’re stealing white women away from other men. Omega white men go MGTOW or prefer robots . . so figure. Where does that leave the scores of leftover white women? Right. If you’re red pill enough with the right game, that extra white woman will dance right into your lap. You bring one of those those extra white women back into your fold. Besides, that extra woman would likely stray if not hegemonied and honeymoonied under YOUR BEARD, YOUR BRAINS and YOUR BEEFSTICK. That extra woman you take will otherwise end up on ‘the dock’ if not claimed early and virgin by a big white BEEFSTICKMAN. She’ll likely get snatched up by some ebono fauna alpha:
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Too late now. Which one would you have stolen if you could turn back the clock to her a 16 and virgin? I like the blonde. But there she went, herded off to some state protectorate nigerbreeder. – It actually looks like some Budweiser commercial.

Now back to the ‘societal norms’. Great Britain’s white replacement rate is choking – on it’s own vomit even what with all the abortion mills and stick in the mul working career women.

BUT ONE BRITISH MAN Adam Lyons, a former PUA has finally decided to settle down and begin breeding with TWO, that’s right TWO of his closest smoking girlfriends. He has them sealed in loyal commitment and breeds them both. GB doesn’t legally allow for two wives proper but may soon. Go Adam! So for now on paper at least, they’re only his girlfriends. He just beat the cuck system.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/13/11/27844D6E00000578-3036709-Happy_families_Adam_Lyon_pictured_with_his_girlfriend_Brooke_She-m-35_1428919375273.jpg

So get that 5:00 stubble and nurse it into a real powerbeard Gnostic. Keep your dickhead sharp and your brain will climb from the slime like a beast from the lagoon. Get on your BEARD, BRAINS and BEEFSTICK. Then game it. PULL those two wife women under your wing. PULL THE RIP CORD on that two banger set like a two stroke Stihl chainsaw. “renn-nenn-rennn-grrr-rrr-POP” (backfire) . . heh heh . . Get it? “POP?” . . see, two strokes can’t backfire . . good two-banger joke huh? Well, have a good one Gnostic and happy bloody English double-banging. Quit quoting so much, shut up and BREED English motherfucker. Good day!

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“Gnostic, violating certain social norms is sometimes necessary not just for personal survival, but also for survival of the bloodline when your creed is under attack.”

Assuming that one’s creed is under attack. See, it’s easy to go against the system when you justify in your mind that the system is on life support. In reality, the system while having its bouts of sickness, is relatively healthy.

“You say “one loyal wife” and “mongamy”. I only half agree with you. White men need TWO WIVES.”

No, white men may choose to have two wives, but given the acute problems it entails (as I had listed in a prior post), it is other than natural.

The rest of your post is the same theme, different words. Again, show us visual proof that you are actually involved with two women at the same time. Real names, not just identities culled from the Internet. If you are that proud, you will demonstrate to the world your dedication to the cause here. Otherwise, you are a poser.

“Too late now. Which one would you have stolen if you could turn back the clock to her at 16 and virgin? I like the blonde and/or the cherry redhead. But there she went, herded off to some state protectorate niggerbreeder. – It actually looks like some Budweiser commercial.”

Fundamental to the stability of a society is a person’s liberty. Should a white woman, for example, want to have sex with “darkies”, so be it. Her decision does not directly impact your life. It appears that you want to control a situation that ultimately is not under your domain.

“Now back to the ‘societal norms’. Great Britain’s white replacement rate is choking…”

Your fixation on whitedom is duly noted. Meanwhile, the rest of us real men will focus on humanity and human beings.

“BUT ONE BRITISH MAN Adam Lyons, a former PUA has finally decided to settle down and begin breeding with TWO…”

He has one child. And this situation is other than the norm. Moreover, there will always be those men and women who have the same line of thinking on an issue–in this case, it happens to be a guy and two ladies who, for now, are committed to a relationship as a threesome. The question remains, will it last a lifetime?

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Aieeh . . your hardwiring is pretty thick. The “see-saw” analogy, the two-banger joke, the ‘machine gun mantra and I still can’t trespass your loop thinking. Strict disciplinarian Praetorian guard guard parents I presume. Well good man pop a viagra, cup of kratom tea, dim the lights and re-read my posts 3x a day and call me. smile

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Your sockpuppeting has been acknowledged, McGoo/CSR/Remax.

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No, white men may choose to have two wives, but given the acute problems it entails (as I had listed in a prior post), it is other than natural.

So what if it’s other than natural? Not sure about your species but we humans can always choose and at times can even transcend & surpass our “naturalness”. If natural is the only way to go then no human would be wearing any clothing since naturally all humans are born naked, new info for you no doubt.

Your fixation on whitedom is duly noted. Meanwhile, the rest of us real men will focus on humanity and human beings.

Not sure what it’s like at your planet of origin but here on this giant blue orb called earth, whitedom is a part of humanity and whites are human beings too.

Fundamental to the stability of a society is a person’s liberty. Should a white woman, for example, want to have sex with “darkies”, so be it. Her decision does not directly impact your life. It appears that you want to control a situation that ultimately is not under your domain.

As long as there’re mutual consents, if white men wanna bang oriental chicks or MGTOW dudes wanna be biological dead-end like Jesus and George Washington 1st POTUS or the Johns wanna hire prostitutes then no one else including the state should have any issue with it…….oh, wait….

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“So what if it’s other than natural? Not sure about your species but we humans can always choose and at times can even transcend & surpass our “naturalness”. If natural is the only way to go then no human would be wearing any clothing since naturally all humans are born naked, new info for you no doubt.”

Word salad alert.

“Not sure what it’s like at your planet of origin but here on this giant blue orb called earth, whitedom is a part of humanity and whites are human beings too.”

OK. Your point?

“As long as there’re mutual consents, if white men wanna bang oriental chicks or MGTOW dudes wanna be biological dead-end like Jesus and George Washington 1st POTUS or the Johns wanna hire prostitutes then no one else including the state should have any issue with it…….oh, wait….”

Cheap whiskey really kills your brain cells. Lay off the sauce.

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Word salad alert.

Solid argument, dude.

OK. Your point?

*YAWN* whitedom is a part of humanity and whites are human beings too, is this concept so hard to grasp for you thus it bears repeating? Or do you simply deem that whites aren’t human beings? You be waycease, dawg!

Cheap whiskey really kills your brain cells. Lay off the sauce.

You’re projecting again, astaghfirullah!

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So you have kids with two women you are no longer with?

Congratulations, your kids are being raised by single mothers. Good job. You’re a GREAT father.

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LOL

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what is killing me the most is that how girls do not want to blame yourself for their action…my ex broke up with me because she doesnt feel anything bla bla bla… and after a few weeks she fucked a few guys and still blaming me that I do not care about her feelings…

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“I don’t care how much of an alpha male you are, or how tight your game is, but if you are the only positive influence in your girlfriend or wife’s life, and everything else around her is pushing her to feed her primal need of pleasure, fun, and higher status men, you will get burned”

Exactly why I never married, and even then my ‘relationships’ are fluid affairs – I could take them or leave ’em. And the best way to keep her in line is by having other females interested in you.

“If everyone started jumping off a bridge tomorrow, she would too, because it’s the social proof which convinces her that it’s an activity she would feel good doing”

Exactly. And if, for example the politicians started importing a bunch violent, aggressive sharia apes from shithole countries, she would too because this is also the social proof which convinces her that it’s an activity she would feel good doing…… oh wait, that’s already happening.

Honestly, today the so-called ‘husband’ has been nothing more than the mere useful idiot in a female’s life, and now the so-called ‘boyfriend’ is not much better. I’ve had too many skags who were either married or in a relationship hit on me to even consider settling down with someone.

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“Exactly why I never married, and even then my ‘relationships’ are fluid affairs – I could take them or leave ’em. And the best way to keep her in line is by having other females interested in you.”

Exactly why Western Civilization is falling. Little boys like you remain.

“Exactly. And if, for example the politicians started importing a bunch violent, aggressive sharia apes from shithole countries, she would too because this is also the social proof which convinces her that it’s an activity she would feel good doing…… oh wait, that’s already happening.”

Unless you are able to trace your ancestors directly from England, you are not an American. Rather, coming from a barbarian culture, you are incapable of understanding the Rights of Englishmen. Furthermore, you do realize that Roosh comes from the same region you labeled as “sharia apes”. So why do you give him a social pass? Does he have dirt on you?

“I’ve had too many skags who were either married or in a relationship hit on me to even consider settling down with someone.”

In the end, you are a pariah to our society. You have to go back.

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Typical cucked retard …

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All your memes are belong to us.

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lol even your comebacks are retarded, cucked tard

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Thanks for sending me your selfie. OMG gurl…..ur like…….so hawt!!!!!!comment image

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You and Rmax are typical in how you approach discourse. Rather than defend your points, you put up sophomoric photographs. Exactly why you remains single. Again, let the real white men build our society. Just stay out of our way.

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Your cucktard replies indicate you’re not too bright. Take the sophomoric photographs as your cue to fuck off and die.

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If this were my blog, the gamma male Anti-Gnostic would’ve been banned by now.

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“If this were my blog, the gamma male Anti-Gnostic would’ve been banned by now.”

Seconded.

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>How exactly do you know this guy?
>Did you hook up with him in the past?
>How long were you at the cafe?
>Did he try to touch you?
>Where did you go after the cafe?
>What exactly did you talk about?
>How did he say goodbye to you?

Show me on the Dolly where he touched you

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Also Patrice O’neal was so far ahead of his time man. Those 6 episodes of black phillips contain enough wisdom you could probably get red pilled by them alone

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> She is such an unreliable “witness” to her own behavior

You’re going to crack up at this but…

“And get two witnesses of your own men, and if there are not two men then a man and two women such as you choose for witnesses – so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her … “

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Sounds like sharia law…4 male witnesses

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Great advise: judge her by her actions not her words. Judge her by the company she keeps. Also, take a long look at her parents and siblings.

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How does it take “long term relationships” to see the red flags, learn
the women is a liar, craves attention, is a gold digger, etc.

I can understand maybe one bad relationship, which you would learn from.

But those are generally things that you pick up on the first date.

Either the writer’s standards aren’t as high as he claims, or he really just isn’t very bright.

The fact a person could say such bad things about past partners, is more telling of their own judgement and character.

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No one wants to see your Colorado pictures, dude.

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You cant sign up for the newsletter anyway, you’re a chick … lol

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Well, my N is nowhere near Roosh’s, but I do have three ex-wives.

Nothing in my life experiences with women are the least bit at odds with this essay. Bull’s. Eye.

Here’s my essay: a man NEVER really knows a woman….until he has divorced her.

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“By dating one girl, you date the world around her, and if that world is sick, a negative outcome is inevitable”.

Now that is a pearl of wisdom!

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One of the best summations of MGTOW. Roosh is awesome …

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People said this about in arranged marriage cultures like forever.

You dont marry the girl you marrythe family.cousins aunties uncles etc..prepare for dramma if u cant hack em

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Monogamy is biologically incorrect, an invention of the corrupt jewed vatican. Prior to christ cucks & babylonian greece, the entire world including europe practised polygamy, the male preferred form of reproduction.

Polygamy is the biologically correct form of reproduction, precisely because its the male preferred form of reproduction.

Women love polygamy, because it keeps sluts & whores off the streets, & more women get access to an alpha male. While it allows High I.Q men to out reproduce low i.q retards …

Low I.Q retards out reproducing High I.Q men, has been an ongoing problem since the 12th century, precisely because of monogamy, & all europe has suffered as a result.

Only a cucked idiot thinks forcing men to fuck a 40,50 year old woman for the rest of his life, is the height of western civilisation …

If you wanted proof christians are loony tunes, monogamy is sheer cucked bullshit. No wonder christians push this shit, they literally hate males …

Christians just like SJW’s also cant stand competition, which is why they push monogamy, monogamy turns a country into cucked retards, through dysgenics alone …

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If monogamy is biologically “incorrect” then why do children always suffer when not in a stable, loving family. Why do people, both men and women, experience jealousy? Why do some people have successful monogamous relationships, are happy and find it rewarding? You post a bunch of drivel to justify your behavior when really you should just admit that you have no self-control and sex is the most important thing for you. I’m not saying everybody needs to get married and have one partner their whole life, do whatever you want. But look at those who sleep around forever, who have multiple kids/broken families, STD’s, burned bridges, etc. Didn’t work out so well for them did it.

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Learn to read … shitstain lmao …

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Perhaps you should take your own advice. Read a book, it may expand your vocabulary past cuck, retard and idiot.

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Or you could learn to read the comment, before spewing your emotional nonsense, woman …

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Why would someone use the handle “shitstains?”

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“Monogamy is biologically incorrect, an invention of the corrupt jewed vatican. Prior to christ cucks & babylonian greece, the entire world including europe practised polygamy, the male preferred form of reproduction.”

No. Throughout human history we see that the “commoners” generally practiced monogamy while the upper crust of society practiced de facto polygyny.

“Polygamy is the biologically correct form of reproduction, precisely because its the male preferred form of reproduction.”

Not “biologically correct”, but a biological form. Not “male preferred”, but preferred by some males.

“Women love polygamy, because it keeps sluts & whores off the streets, & more women get access to an alpha male. While it allows High I.Q men to out reproduce low i.q retards …”

First, most women prefer monogamy. They do not want to be “passed around”. Second, the issue with “alpha male” is that men have varying definitions as to what it entails. While some men are “superior” in certain physical and mental attributes compared to other men, the ranking system has a tendency to be subjective in nature and reeks of confirmation basis. Third, human reproduction is other than predicated on “high IQ men outproducing low IQ retards”. It is the liberty of a man to sire offspring. It’s NOT your call to make.

Finally, demonstrate with visual evidence that you are an “alpha male” with an high IQ who has many women and has many children. Real name. Real harem. It’s put up or shut up time.

“Low I.Q retards out reproducing High I.Q men, has been an ongoing problem since the 12th century, precisely because of monogamy, & all europe has suffered as a result.”

All your lies are belong to us.

“Only a cucked idiot thinks forcing men to fuck a 40,50 year old woman for the rest of his life, is the height of western civilisation …”

“Cuck” and “cucked” are vastly overused terms. They observably mean nothing to most men.

“If you wanted proof christians are loony tunes, monogamy is sheer cucked bullshit. No wonder christians push this shit, they literally hate males …”

“Christians just like SJW’s also cant stand competition, which is why they push monogamy, monogamy turns a country into cucked retards, through dysgenics alone …”

Christian men get the most quality tail. They are the true “alpha males”. Again, let us real men do the heavy intellectual lifting and build society.

Again, demonstrate with visual evidence that you are an “alpha male” with an high IQ who has many women and has many children. Real name. Real harem. It’s put up or shut up time.

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Are you retarded? Are you yourself a result of said low IQ reproduction. Yes we can clearly see how successful polygamy has been for Islamic culture. They have built such beautiful civilizations… full of advancement.

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When you think about it, Game is founded on the fear of men to be stabbed on the heart. But what came first, these stone cold feminist bitches or fearful men? It’s a chicken or the egg situation to me…

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Not really….feminism took off in the late 60’s. The manosphere did not come around until the 90’s, nearly a generation later. Men (and women) were lied to, and the destruction of the family resulted. But, because the lies appears to favor the women, they are much more willing to hold onto them. Ironically, women can and are being hurt far more than men by the feminist movement.

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Maybe the manosphere just needed internet to emerge, but the fear was already there… Sometimes I think it has always been there, but the manosphere just put a name to it. Feminism was always there and it just needed the political conditions to emerge… Women are being hurt because fear causes isolation. And isolation is always painful for everyone, including men…

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could be, men tend to be isolated more as it is because of work, and there needs to some medium to get together. In the 1950’s, there were various clubs, but those have been attacked and have died out.

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This article is pure gold and full of hard truths that were gained through much personal struggle and suffering.

Men must really understand two things:
1) Re #1 women lying and #4 their hypocracy: Women run on a different operating system than men. While there are differences between “good” vs “slutty” girls, all women will lie, without even perceiving that they are being bad or sinful or harmful. They will cheat, and then blame you for it, without ever admitting they cheated. This is not simply because they are “bad” as men view right and wrong–they literally do not acknowledge that they cheated.

2) No matter how good a job you are doing at maintaining frame, working on the relationship, picking a good girl from the right background, and applying the rules learned from game and the Red Pill, as stated in #5, a system of patriarchy reinforcing social rules and norms is absolutely required to keep a woman’s behavior tolerable. The only regions left in the world that still have a social system controlling women’s unrestrained desires are a few countries in the Mideast that the west is destroying through wars for (((democracy))), and a few countries in the supposed “Axis of Evil.” The Christian church was the last vestige of female control in western civilization and it is all but obliterated.

I’m not sure women are even capable of acknowledging blame or harm, because they cannot feel empathy, just as they cannot experience true, “agape” style love. The only hope is to understand the points above, and reinstitute a system to constrain the destructive urges of women. The alternative is the permanent loss of a society and civilization.

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“…all women will lie, without even perceiving that they are being bad or sinful or harmful. They will cheat, and then blame you for it, without ever admitting they cheated. This is not simply because they are “bad” as men view right and wrong–they literally do not acknowledge that they cheated.”

In reality, men and women lie, both of whom believe they are not bad or harmful or sinful in the process.

“a system of patriarchy reinforcing social rules and norms is absolutely required to keep a woman’s behavior tolerable.”

In reality, a society will create its own norms regarding what is tolerable and intolerable for its citizens. Regarding patriarchy, that system is LONG gone, with most modern, well-adjusted men saying “good riddance”.

“The Christian church was the last vestige of female control in western civilization and it is all but obliterated.”

The Christian Church remains vibrant.

“Remember that marriage itself is a Christian covenant, and was an arrangement between two men to join families by offering a virgin bride. Anything not containing these components is NOT traditional marriage.”

Traditional marriage in a religious sense, indeed.

“I’m not sure women are even capable of acknowledging blame or harm, because they cannot feel empathy, just as they cannot experience true, “agape” style love. The only hope is to understand the points above, and reinstitute a system to constrain the destructive urges of women. The alternative is the permanent loss of a society and civilization.”

In reality, men and women are at times incapable of assuming blame or harm. And our society and civilization need not be required to “turn back the clock”.

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In reality, men and women lie, both of whom believe they are not bad or harmful or sinful in the process.

True, that’s why if you’re a man, MGTOW is the way to go.

In reality, a society will create its own norms regarding what is
tolerable and intolerable for its citizens.Regarding patriarchy, that system is LONG gone, with most modern, well-adjusted men saying “good riddance”.

Very true. The only downside is that currently women’s words aren’t held as sacrosanct as they used to be. Back during the dark days of patriarchy, it was tolerable to lynch Tyrone at the nearest tree or lamppost in no time flat after Elaine said that he raped her.

The Christian Church remains vibrant.

Indeed, that’s why today the western Christians still stands steadfast against Islam as if the current year is 1683 AD Vienna where no Muslims could freely set a foot onto any part of the Christendom without first conquering it.

In reality, men and women are at times incapable of assuming blame or harm. And our society and civilization need not be required to “turn back the clock”.

No turning back the clock, marriage is as obsolete as last year’s used tampons. NSA sex, sexbots and clonings are the future, insha’allah.

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In reality, men and women lie, both of whom believe they are not bad or harmful or sinful in the process.

True, that’s why if you’re a man, MGTOW is the way to go.

In reality, a society will create its own norms regarding what is tolerable and intolerable for its citizens.Regarding patriarchy, that system is LONG gone, with most modern, well-adjusted men saying “good riddance”.

Very true. The only downside is that currently women’s words aren’t held as sacrosanct as they used to be. Back during the dark days of patriarchy, it was tolerable to lynch Tyrone at the nearest tree or lamppost in no time flat after Elaine said that he raped her.

The Christian Church remains vibrant.

Indeed, that’s why today the western Christians still stands steadfast against Islam as if the current year is 1683 AD Vienna where no Muslim could freely set a foot onto any part of the Christendom without first conquering it.

In reality, men and women are at times incapable of assuming blame or harm. And our society and civilization need not be required to “turn back the clock”.

No turning back the clock, marriage is as obsolete as last year’s used tampons. NSA sex, sexbots and clonings are the future, insha’allah.

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“True, that’s why if you’re a man, MGTOW is the way to go.”

A man who acts like a juvenile, yes.

“Very true. The only downside is that currently women’s words aren’t held as sacrosanct as they used to be. Back during the dark days of patriarchy, it was tolerable to lynch Tyrone at the nearest tree or lamppost in no time flat after Elaine said that he raped her.”

Even during patriarchal rule, is was other than tolerable to lynch people. There were laws against such things.

“Indeed, that’s why today the western Christians still stands steadfast against Islam as if the current year is 1683 AD Vienna where no Muslim could freely set a foot onto any part of the Christendom without first conquering it.”

Human beings progress.

“No turning back the clock, marriage is as obsolete as last year’s used tampons. NSA sex, sexbots and clonings are the future, insha’allah.”

No, marriage is still critical to the maintenance of a civilization. Perhaps those things are in YOUR future.

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A man who acts like a juvenile, yes.

Juvenile?? Dafuq??

Yaw dawg, more than 2.5k years ago, Buddha aka “the enlightened one” was a crown prince who could get all the hottest bitches on the land and guaranteed that he won’t be cucked unless that bitch had a death wish. Back then, no femcunts nor whiteknight politicians could’ve saved any bitch who dared to cuckold a princeling, let alone the crown prince. Also, Buddha didn’t have to bust his royal ass in order to make a living, he could have lived both idyllic and luxurious life with hottest harems at his beck & call. Despite all of those, what Buddha did? He realized that bitches ain’t shit but hoes and tricks hence he dumped ’em all and sought to become the Buddha he ultimately became. Was Buddha a juvenile man because he went his own way? Yes according to you & your ilk, no doubt.

And let’s not forget the greatest MGTOW that ever lived and from whom the very ẃord of Christianity derived. He was a biological dead-end juvenile manchild too for failing to wife up some wall-bound bitch, heck, JC couldn’t even score a date with post-wall bitches! JC was both a juvenile and a creepy loser who couldn’t even get date, no doubt according to you & your ilk. Am I wrong or am I correct?

Even during patriarchal rule, is was other than tolerable to lynch people. There were laws against such things.

*GASP* You mean there was still some semblance of order under the dreaded evil dark lord of patriarchy?? As opposed to total chaos, backward savagery, and rampant mass rapes n’ pussy-grabs of Muslim girls by mobs of Trump voters?? Say it ain’t so!!!

Fact is fact, BTW. Some of those trees and lampposts where the likes of Tyrone and Jamal used to be dangling by the necks prolly are still standing today. Laws mean jackshit if they were not enforced or when the people decided to rebel against what they deemed to be unjust laws. Thomas Jefferson said it best “If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.”

Human beings progress.

Ah I see now, you’re one of those “progressives”. Yeah, human beings do progress, Barrack Obonger and Hitlery progress, and they’re human beings as well. *YAWN*

No, marriage is still critical to the maintenance of a civilization. Perhaps those things are in YOUR future.

LOL! What does marriage have to do with maintaining a lemonade stand, let alone maintaining a civilization? FFS, western civilization was massively influenced by Christianity whose founder was an unmarried son of man as He liked to call Himself. Ah….I know…I know….you’re a true belieber of Justin Bieber and the Da Vinci Code now aren’t you? JC down on His divine knees and proposed to Mary Magdalene before He banged her good that night? LOL

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“Yaw dawg, more than 2.5k years ago, Buddha aka “the enlightened one” was a crown prince who could get all the hottest bitches on the land and guaranteed that he won’t be cucked unless that bitch had a death wish.”

Buddhism is about the middle way, not about harem building.

“Back then, no femcunts nor whiteknight politicians could’ve saved any bitch who dared to cuckold a princeling, let alone the crown prince. Also, Buddha didn’t have to bust his royal ass in order to make a living, he could have lived both idyllic and luxurious life with hottest harems at his beck & call. Despite all of those, what Buddha did? He realized that bitches ain’t shit but hoes and tricks hence he dumped ’em all and sought to become the Buddha he ultimately became. Was Buddha a juvenile man because he went his own way? Yes according to you & your ilk, no doubt.”

You have a revisionist history of Buddha. He did not act in the manner you prescribed. In other words, you are making shit up.

“And let’s not forget the greatest MGTOW that ever lived and from whom the very ẃord of Christianity derived. He was a biological dead-end juvenile manchild too for failing to wife up some wall-bound bitch, heck, JC couldn’t even score a date with post-wall bitches! JC was both a juvenile and a creepy loser who couldn’t even get a date, no doubt according to you & your ilk. Am I wrong or am I correct?”

Utterly wrong.

“LOL! What does marriage have to do with maintaining a lemonade stand, let alone maintaining a civilization? FFS, western civilization was massively influenced by Christianity whose founder was an unmarried son of man as He liked to call Himself. Ah….I know…I know….you’re a true belieber of Justin Bieber and the Da Vinci Code now aren’t you? JC down on His divine knees and proposed to Mary Magdalene before He banged her good that night? LOL”

Thank you for your clown show.

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Buddhism is about the middle way, not about harem building.

Buddhism is about rejecting marriage, detaching yourself from worldly desires, and forgoing materialistic lifestyle as much as possible in order to attain Nibbhana. OMG! Say au revoir to your expensive designer handbags and shoes, let go of your daydream about building a family with Trayvon Thundercock or with some billionaire hunk like that one from the 50 shades of Grey. Oh, and chill down on stuffing your face and bloating your body too! LOL

You have a revisionist history of Buddha. He did not act in the manner you prescribed. In other words, you are making shit up.

No, I’m not making shit up, it’s your hamstering female mind that’s projecting again. Buddha and I are fellow MGTOW, we both figuratively gave our middle fingers to marriage and we both certainly do not fall for “marriage is necessary for maintaining civilizations blabla hurr durr hee haw derp derp”.

Utterly wrong.

No, it is you who are utterly in denial that JC was a MGTOW and that He certainly also did not subscribe to “marriage is necessary for maintaining civilizations blabla hurr durr hee haw derp derp” like you do.

Thank you for your clown show.

Thank you for wasting every red pill men’s time here, now would you be so kind as to slither back to Huffpo or Jezebel? Who knows there might be some new rantings & ravings err I mean new articles about “where have all the good men gone” or “men are intimidated by strong independent women like me” or “why we must fight to get porn and sexbots for men banned”.

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Buddhism is about the middle way, not about harem building.

Buddhism is about rejecting marriage, detaching yourself from worldly desires, and forgoing materialistic lifestyle as much as possible in order to attain Nibbhana. OMG! Say au revoir to your expensive designer handbags and shoes, let go of your daydream about building a family with Trayvon Thundercock or with some billionaire hunk like that one from the 50 shades of Grey. Oh, and chill down on stuffing your face and bloating your body too! LOL

You have a revisionist history of Buddha. He did not act in the manner you prescribed. In other words, you are making shit up.

No, I’m not making shit up, it’s your hamstering female mind that’s projecting again. Buddha and I are fellow MGTOW, we both figuratively gave our middle fingers to marriage and we both certainly do not fall for “marriage is necessary for maintaining civilizations blabla hurr durr hee haw derp derp”.

Utterly wrong.

No, it is you who are utterly in denial that JC was a MGTOW and that He certainly also did not subscribe to “marriage is necessary for maintaining civilizations blabla hurr durr hee haw derp derp” like you do.

Thank you for your clown show.

Thank you for wasting every red pill men’s time here, now would you be so kind as to slither back to Huffpo or Jezebel? Who knows there might be some new rantings & ravings err I mean new articles about “where have all the good men gone” or “men are intimidated by strong independent women like me” or “why we must fight to get porn and sexbots for men banned”.

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“Buddhism is about rejecting marriage…”

No. In Buddhism, one can find all the necessary advice which can help one to lead a happy married life. One should not neglect the advice given by the Enlightened Teacher if one really wants to lead a happy married life. In His discourses, the Buddha gave various kinds of advice for married couples and for those who are contemplating marriage. The Buddha has said, “If a man can find a suitable and understanding wife and a woman can find a suitable and understanding husband, both are fortunate indeed.”

“Buddha and I are fellow MGTOW, we both figuratively gave our middle fingers to marriage.”

Buddha and JC are not MGTOW. You are making shit up again.

“Thank you for wasting every red pill men’s time here.”

Yet another useless meme, “red pill”.

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No. In Buddhism, one can find all the necessary advice which can help one to lead a happy married life. One should not neglect the advice given by the Enlightened Teacher if one really wants to lead a happy married life. In His discourses, the Buddha gave various kinds of advice for married couples and for those who are contemplating marriage. The Buddha has said, “If a man can find a suitable and understanding wife and a woman can find a suitable and understanding husband, both are fortunate indeed.”

Pray tell then, why didn’t Buddha follow his own advice on marriage and return to Yasodharā’s loving embrace and lead a happy married life with her? They sure seemed to be a match made in heaven, they were both royalties, they were both the same age and both of them were even born on same day in the month of Vaishaka. They even had a son together prior to Buddha’s red-pill awakening on the pervasiveness of Dukkha.

Forget Yasodharā, Buddha attained enlightenment at the age of 35 and lived up to the age of 80, that’s 45 freaking years to find a suitable and understanding wife. So, why didn’t he?

Blue pill idiots and women would say something to the effect of “Buddha was such an insensitive misogynistic jerk and a creepy juvenile manchild to boot. That’s why no woman wanted him.”

I’d say, imagine there’s a wise and compassionate man who can communicate with dung beetles. The man would be most happy to enlighten the dung beetles on the best way to locate and collect dungs. Heck, the man will gladly summon the dung beetles each and every time he defecated so the beetles can come to collect those fresh & warm turds. “Hmm what moist yummy yummy turd you produced, thanks bro” said the dung beetles to the man.

The man in the story is Buddha, all the dung beetles are humans who are still ruled by their own baser instincts. For Buddha to follow his own advice on marriage is tantamount to the man in the story to relish in turd the way the dung beetles do. If marriage life was truly the way of the Buddhas and Arahats then with no exception they all would have surely engaged in it like there’s no tomorrow but they don’t, for it is the way of the unenlightened.

Buddha and JC are not MGTOW. You are making shit up again.

I absolutely not, the facts are against you. Buddha, JC, MGTOW dudes even share two things in common, namely, they all have a dick and they all reject marriage.

Yet another useless meme, “red pill”.

You’re a woman after all, I can certainly understand why you feel the way you do regarding the noble red pill.

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“Pray tell then, why didn’t Buddha follow his own advice on marriage and return to Yasodharā’s loving embrace and lead a happy married life with her?”

Because he had a higher calling in life in teaching the masses how to center their life through marriage and children.

“I’d say, imagine there’s a wise and compassionate man who can communicate with dung beetles. The man would be most happy to enlighten the dung beetles on the best way to locate and collect dungs. Heck, the man will gladly summon the dung beetles each and every time he defecated so the beetles can come to collect those fresh & warm turds. “Hmm what moist yummy yummy turd you produced, thanks bro” said the dung beetles to the man.”

We are dealing with an eight-year-old here posing as a man.

“I absolutely not, the facts are against you. Buddha, JC, MGTOW dudes even share two things in common, namely, they all have a dick and they all reject marriage.”

Concerning those who remain unmarried so that they can do more in God’s service, Jesus told his disciples: “Let the one who can make room for it [singleness] make room for it.” (Matthew 19:10-12)

Jesus set the pattern for those who choose not to marry in order to devote themselves more fully to God.—John 13:15; 1 Corinthians 7:32-38.

Likewise, Buddha took the same path. You are making shit up.

“You’re a woman after all, I can certainly understand why you feel the way you do regarding the noble red pill.”

Much butthurt I sense. Cry like a bitch you should–Master Yoda

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Because he had a higher calling in life in teaching the masses how to center their life through marriage and children.

LOL! Absolutely not! The higher calling of Buddhism is to attain Nibbana, marriage is considered to be a hindrance to that, that’s why no Buddhas and Arahats involved in marriages. That’s why Buddha didn’t return to marriage life after he achieved enlightenment because he can clearly see that marriage will only fuck up his goal in attaining Nibbana.

Marriage IS indeed a higher calling in ISLAM, you got Islam mixed up with Buddhism. Back to elementary school, dear Watson.

We are dealing with an eight-year-old here posing as a man.

You’re a woman posing as a man on a man’s site and you have the gall to use your own projection for an argument? Literally OMG! I can’t even……

Concerning those who remain unmarried so that they can do more in God’s service, Jesus told his disciples: “Let the one who can make room for it [singleness] make room for it.” (Matthew 19:10-12).

You’re either mixed up again Islam with Christianity or you’re simply making shit up again for the umpteenth time, no where did the “do more in God’s service” was ever mentioned.

Matthew 19:10-12New International Version (NIV)

10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”

What does it mean that “not everyone can accept this teaching”? Does it mean there is a choice among Jesus’ followers to accept or reject the teaching? Does it mean that only those who can accept it can be Jesus’ followers? (That was the position of the early Syriac Christian Church who only baptized celibates for the first few centuries.) The second clause, “but only those to whom it is given,” might indicate that only some followers of Jesus can accept the teaching regarding marriage and divorce or that only those who have had this insight given to them – by God? – are fit to be Jesus’ followers. It is unclear whether all of Jesus’ disciples should be single or if some have a choice to be married. The linking of the eunuchs to the kingdom of heaven, though, clearly indicates that the ideal of the single and celibate state is the state of all disciples in the eschatological Kingdom of God.

In layman’s term, single and celibate is the way to go, as Jesus had demonstrated by His own example.

Jesus set the pattern for those who choose not to marry in order to devote themselves more fully to God.—John 13:15

LOL yeah in some revisionist Bible written by a feminist or an Islamist perhaps but not according to John 13-15 New International Version (NIV)

13 It was just before the Passover Festival. Jesus knew that the hour had come for him to leave this world and go to the Father. Having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end.

2 The evening meal was in progress, and the devil had already prompted Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot, to betray Jesus. 3 Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power, and that he had come from God and was returning to God; 4 so he got up from the meal, took off his outer clothing, and wrapped a towel around his waist. 5 After that, he poured water into a basin and began to wash his disciples’ feet, drying them with the towel that was wrapped around him.

6 He came to Simon Peter, who said to him, “Lord, are you going to wash my feet?”

7 Jesus replied, “You do not realize now what I am doing, but later you will understand.”

8 “No,” said Peter, “you shall never wash my feet.”

Jesus answered, “Unless I wash you, you have no part with me.”

9 “Then, Lord,” Simon Peter replied, “not just my feet but my hands and my head as well!”

10 Jesus answered, “Those who have had a bath need only to wash their feet; their whole body is clean. And you are clean, though not every one of you.” 11 For he knew who was going to betray him, and that was why he said not every one was clean.

12 When he had finished washing their feet, he put on his clothes and returned to his place. “Do you understand what I have done for you?” he asked them. 13 “You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and rightly so, for that is what I am. 14 Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet. 15 I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you. 16 Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him. 17 Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them.

BTW, were Jesus born a woman, her hypergamous instinct won’t allow her to deign herself to wash the feet of those whose social status are lower than her. “Eeeeeeww they’re all like, totally gross and literally outta my league! Don’t y’all creepy losers even realize that I am the daughter of God? WOW WOW just WOW OMG I can’t even…..”

; 1 Corinthians 7:32-38.

Just so you know, 1 Corinthians 7:32-38 was by Paul, not Jesus, both are MGTOWs though.

1 Corinthians 7:32-38New International Version (NIV)

32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— 34 and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. 35 I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.

36 If anyone is worried that he might not be acting honorably toward the virgin he is engaged to, and if his passions are too strong[a] and he feels he ought to marry, he should do as he wants. He is not sinning. They should get married. 37 But the man who has settled the matter in his own mind, who is under no compulsion but has control over his own will, and who has made up his mind not to marry the virgin—this man also does the right thing. 38 So then, he who marries the virgin does right, but He Who Does Not Marry Her Does Better.

Likewise, Buddha took the same path. You are making shit up.

What path Jesus and Buddha took? Celibacy aka rejecting marriage.
What path MGTOW took? Celibacy aka rejecting marriage.

Your constant projectings and cognitive dissonance are getting out of hand, seek help at the nearest insane asylum, posthaste.

Much butthurt I sense. Cry like a bitch you should–Master Yoda

Master Yoda rejects marriage too, he and I are MGTOW comrades.

A friendly advice, since you’re so gung-ho on marriage, better convert to Islam whose founder was equally crazed in consummating marriages. You and Muhammad PBUH (parishilton be upon him) are definitely kindred spirits, mashallah ameen ya rabbal alameen.

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Again, Buddha didn’t return to married life because he focused on helping people center their life through marriage and children.

“Concerning those who remain unmarried so that they can do more in God’s service, Jesus told his disciples: “Let the one who can make room for it [singleness] make room for it.” (Matthew 19:10-12).”

Dude, you passed off this explanation as your own. Plagiarist.

https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2015/11/06/scriptural-look-jesus-teachings-marriage-and-divorce

“What does it mean that “not everyone can accept this teaching”? Does it mean there is a choice among Jesus’ followers to accept or reject the teaching? Does it mean that only those who can accept it can be Jesus’ followers? (That was the position of the early Syriac Christian Church who only baptized celibates for the first few centuries.) The second clause, “but only those to whom it is given,” might indicate that only some followers of Jesus can accept the teaching regarding marriage and divorce or that only those who have had this insight given to them – by God? – are fit to be Jesus’ followers. It is unclear whether all of Jesus’ disciples should be single or if some have a choice to be married. The linking of the eunuchs to the kingdom of heaven, though, clearly indicates that the ideal of the single and celibate state is the state of all disciples in the eschatological Kingdom of God.”


Regarding Matthew 19: 10-12, Jesus listed three instances of men who will remain single—those who have a birth defect of the reproductive organs, those who were castrated, and those who will devote themselves wholly to God’s work. Otherwise, the expectation at that time were for men to get married and have children.

“Jesus set the pattern for those who choose not to marry in order to devote themselves more fully to God.—John 13:15”

Exactly. Not to chase poon as a single guy. But, should that man encounter a woman who is devoted to God as him, that man was bound by God to marry her. And for the love of Christ, Paul and Jesus were not MGTOWs.

Regarding Corinthians 7:32-38, context escapes you. There are circumstances in individual cases where a man devoted to Christ will not marry because it would impede his duty to the Lord. But this situation is the EXCEPTION, not the rule. It would be more desirable for the man to have a union with a woman and have children. In this manner, the word of the Lord spreads among families.

“What path Jesus and Buddha took? Celibacy aka rejecting marriage.”

Celibacy does not equate to rejecting marriage. A man or woman could be celibate and still be married. It’s called a sexless marriage. Yuck!

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Matthew 19:10-12 refers to only those men who are unmarried because 1) they were castrated, 2) there sexual organs are dysfunctional, and 3) they dedicated themselves to the work of the Lord by promoting marriage and offspring.

“What does it mean that “not everyone can accept this teaching”?…The linking of the eunuchs to the kingdom of heaven, though, clearly indicates that the ideal of the single and celibate state is the state of all disciples in the eschatological Kingdom of God.”

You plagiarized this analysis. You listed no source. What, you seriously thought you could pass it as your own words?

https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2015/11/06/scriptural-look-jesus-teachings-marriage-and-divorce

Corinthians 7:32-38 talks about how a man for pastoral reasons ought to remain single. Otherwise, it is his duty to marry and sire offspring. Remaining single and not marrying would anger God, for the man was put on this earth to serve him. This passage actually proves that Jesus was other than MGTOW in the modern sense.
Again, Jesus and Buddha did not reject marriage. They promoted it through their own work, in their own way, through a higher calling.

Furthermore, celibacy does not equal rejecting marriage. There are marriages in which there is no sex between the partners, which makes no sense to me. Regardless. your assertion is demonstrably false.

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Matthew 19:10-12 refers to only those men who are unmarried because 1) they were castrated, 2) there sexual organs are dysfunctional, and 3) they dedicated themselves to the work of the Lord by promoting marriage and offspring.

Matthew 19:10-12 New International Version (NIV)

10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”

Notice that no where did Jesus say anything about the promotion of marriage and offspring. What version of
Matthew 19:10-12 have thou been reading?

“What does it mean that “not everyone can accept this teaching”?…The linking of the eunuchs to the kingdom of heaven, though, clearly indicates that the ideal of the single and celibate state is the state of all disciples in the eschatological Kingdom of God.” You plagiarized this analysis. You listed no source. What, you seriously thought you could pass it as your own words? https://www.americamagazine

Yes I did plagiarize that just as I plagiarized the English language countless times now, for I certainly didn’t invent the English language.

Seriously, the sole reason I listed no source because the analysis was made by a Catholic, I wanted the analysis to be judged on its own merit rather than “Well, I’m a Jehovah’s Witness/Episcopalian/Westborough Baptist/Church of Satan/ hence anything that deviates from my denomination can’t possibly be right.”

Corinthians 7:32-38 talks about how a man for pastoral reasons ought to remain single.

Thank you! I knew it all along that all those married Reverends are actually Godless impostors masquerading Moloch priests.

Remaining single and not marrying would anger God, for the man was put on this earth to serve him. This passage actually proves that Jesus was other than MGTOW in the modern sense.

1 Corinthians 7:32-38 New International Version (NIV)

32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— 34 and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. 35 I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.

36 If anyone is worried that he might not be acting honorably toward the virgin he is engaged to, and if his passions are too strong[a] and he feels he ought to marry, he should do as he wants. He is not sinning. They should get married. 37 But the man who has settled the matter in his own mind, who is under no compulsion but has control over his own will, and who has made up his mind not to marry the virgin—this man also does the right thing. 38 So then, he who marries the virgin does right, but He Who Does Not Marry Her Does Better.

No where does your ludicrous claim that “Remaining single and not marrying would anger God, for the man was put on this earth to serve him” can be found? What version of 1 Corinthians 7:32-38 have thou been reading?

Again, Jesus and Buddha did not reject marriage. They promoted it through their own work, in their own way, through a higher calling.

I do admire thy Wonderwoman-like zeal in championing marriage, so much so that you’re willing to employ convoluted sophistry and Themysciran mental gymnastics. Alas, action speaks louder than words, Jesus and Buddha did reject marriage FOR THEMSELVES in the most glaringly obvious way possible – by not engaging in it.

Furthermore, celibacy does not equal rejecting marriage.

Forgive me Father for I have sinned, yes I do confess that I was wrong all along. You see, Jesus and Buddha are vehemently pro marriage….FOR OTHER PEOPLE, otherwise they would have been married themselves now wouldn’t they? Similarly, MGTOW are fiercely pro marriage FOR OTHER PEOPLE i.e. all those blue-pill chumps must invariably wife up all those surplus wenches lest there’d be shotgun weddings and riots on the streets. LOL

There are marriages in which there is no sex between the partners, which makes no sense to me. Regardless. your assertion is demonstrably false

Does it make sense to you that there are women marrying themselves? Google sologamy.

On a second thought, perhaps Jesus and Buddha aren’t MGTOW after all because they were indeed married…..to themselves! LOL

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“Notice that no where did Jesus say anything about the promotion of marriage and offspring. What version of Matthew 19:10-12 have thou been reading?”

It’s called context, something that escapes you.

“Yes I did plagiarize that just as I plagiarized the English language countless times now, for I certainly didn’t invent the English language.”

One does not plagiarize the English language, one USES it.

“Seriously, the sole reason I listed no source because the analysis was made by a Catholic, I wanted the analysis to be judged on its own merit rather than…”

Dude, you got busted out. Your gamma excuse is pathetic.

“No where does your ludicrous claim that “Remaining single and not marrying would anger God, for the man was put on this earth to serve him” can be found? What version of 1 Corinthians 7:32-38 have thou been reading?”

Again, it’s called context.

“Alas, action speaks louder than words, Jesus and Buddha did reject marriage FOR THEMSELVES in the most glaringly obvious way possible – by not engaging in it.”

They did not reject marriage, Jesus was married to God and Buddha married to philosophy. But through their devotion they actively promoted marriage and children.

Furthermore, celibacy does not equal rejecting marriage.
As I stated correctly, there are marriages in which there is no sex between the partners.

“You see, Jesus and Buddha are vehemently pro marriage….FOR OTHER PEOPLE, otherwise they would have been married themselves now wouldn’t they?

Regardless if they didn’t marry for themselves, they were pro-marriage give their status and stature. Isaiah 52:13–53, Peter 1:19–20, and Luke 18:31–33) discuss that Jesus knew if He married, He would leave behind a widow and a child, which would cause unbearable suffering, for He clearly understood His limited time on Earth.

Does it make sense to you that there are women marrying themselves? Google sologamy.

“Similarly, MGTOW are fiercely pro marriage FOR OTHER PEOPLE i.e. all those blue-pill chumps must invariably wife up all those surplus wenches lest there’d be shotgun weddings and riots on the streets.”

The only chumps are those who are not married and have offspring. They are the true alpha males.

“Does it make sense to you that there are women marrying themselves? Google sologamy.”

Irrelevant.

Are you done here?

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It’s called context, something that escapes you.

Heh, now you sound like a Muslim. Context is indeed important, nay, critical when reading the Qur’an, for the verses are jumbled up unchronologically and strike out incoherently out of no where.

Examples:
Surah Al-Kafirun 109:1-6 “To You Your Religion and To Me Mine”.
Surah Al-Baqara 256 “There is no compulsion in religion”.

Who said those 2 verses? Safe to assume that it was Muhammad, but why did he say what he said? Because he was responding to a question or to an act of aggression or to an erotic wet dream?

And to whom did he say those 2 verses to? To his underlings or the pagan Arabs or the Christian Arabs or the Jews or the Byzantines or the Sassanid Persians or the BLM activists or the La Raza crowd or Donald Trump or Gal Gadot? Or perhaps Muhammad simply screamed those 2 verses on top of his lungs at a passing-by camel or a grazing goat and one of his lackeys overheard and subsequently wrote them down in the Qur’an?

When did he say those 2 verses? When he was lecturing his blood-thirsty-followers or when he was at his deathbed or when he was having one of his epileptic seizures or when he was snuggling with his child bride Aisha?

Where did he say those 2 verses? In Mecca or Medina or Khaybar or Mordor or Jerusalem or Dearborn Michigan or Mount Olympus or Planet Zorg?

Unlike perhaps 99% of the Quranic verses which contexts can’t be understood without resorting to Ibn Kathir’s Al-Sira Al-Nabawiya, the Ahadith, and the Bible even; the context of Matthew 19:10-12 and 1 Corinthians 7:32-38 of the New International Version (NIV) are clear and clearly do not support your ludicrous assertion. Granted that mayhaps you’ve been reading your own versions of Matthew 19:10-12 and 1 Corinthians 7:32-38 then it’d perfectly makes sense as to why you asserted what you asserted.

One does not plagiarize the English language, one USES it.

So when I use other people’s opinion on some site, I merely use it too? Instead of plagiarizing? YAY! I go girl! Also, you mean when I wear my pants below my scrotum and talk in Ebonics, I merely use the culture? Instead of appropriating it? Shhheeeeeeeeeiiiittt………..

Dude, you got busted out. Your gamma excuse is pathetic.

Pathetic is merely your subjective opinion, that was my real reason. As opposed to what, do you think? My real reason was to win an internet argument with an anonymous nobody….err I mean a hot young popular female celebrity like yourself? *WINK WINK* LOL

They did not reject marriage, Jesus was married to God and Buddha married to philosophy. But through their devotion they actively promoted marriage and children.

Jesus, Buddha, Master Yoda, MGTOW dudes do ñot reject marriage as long as it is other people doing it. Jesus was married to Yahweh, Buddha was married to Buddhism, Master Yoda is married to the Force, MGTOW dudes are married to their lives & hobbies. I’m a MGTOW and I encourage each non MGTOW dude to wife up at least 20 women and have 500 children by the minimum since the earth is so sparsely underpopulated from its ideal number of 969 trillions inhabitants.

BTW, Buddha named his only son and descendant as Rāhula which means ‘impediment’, for Buddha realized that the Rāhula could be a tie that bound him to his wife. Later on, Buddha even encouraged Rāhula to become a monk like himself and thereby effectively ending his genes on this realm we’re living in, so much for your “…..through their devotion they actively promoted marriage and children”.

Regardless if they didn’t marry for themselves, they were pro-marriage give their status and stature. Isaiah 52:13–53, Peter 1:19–20, and Luke 18:31–33) discuss that Jesus knew if He married, He would leave behind a widow and a child, which would cause unbearable suffering, for He clearly understood His limited time on Earth.

MGTOW dudes are ferociously pro marriage, too bad that virtually all of them aren’t exactly bullet-proof let alone bomb-proof. If they got hit by one of those “nothing to do with Islam” incidents courtesy of the ISIS dudes then they will leave behind a widow and a child, which would cause unbearable suffering. You see, MGTOW dudes perfectly aware that they’re not as invulnerable to harms as Hulk and Superman are, so………

The only chumps are those who are not married and have offspring. They are the true alpha males.

I concur, people who left no offspring were either losers or cowards or both. It’s high time that we erase from our collective consciousness of cowardly childless loser people such as Plato, George Washington First POTUS, Beethoven, James Buchanan, Herodotus, Buddha, Jesus, Peter the disciple, Paul the apostle,Copernicus, Da Vinci, Descartes, Francis Drake, Händel, Immanuel Kant, Newton, Tesla, Amerigo Vespucci, Wright brothers, Wyatt Earp, Katharine Hepburn, Oprah Winfrey, Jennifer Aniston, etc etc.

Irrelevant.

Don’t count out sologamy just yet, it could be your future if the sisterhood refused to share a husband with you due to lack of prospect, thanks to MGTOW. LOL

Are you done here?

Are you?

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“Context is indeed important, nay, critical when reading the Qur’an, for the verses are jumbled up unchronologically and strike out incoherently out of no where.”

Red herring. Stick to the topic at hand.

“Jesus was married to Yahweh, Buddha was married to Buddhism, Master Yoda is married to the Force.”

Yet they all promoted marriage and having children.

“I concur, people who left no offspring were either losers or cowards or both.”

Hepburn, Winfrey, and Aniston are grrlz. They can’t be alpha males.

“MGTOW dudes are ferociously pro marriage…”

Not today’s version. They generally are about themselves.

Keep flailing…

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Red herring. Stick to the topic at hand.

Definitely warranted and absolutely necessary in order to point out and correct the ludicrous notion that the Bible verses don’t have contexts already built into them.

Anyway…so…I presume you’re still working on rewriting the Christian Bible to your own liking?

Yet they all promoted marriage and having children.

Ah, I see that you have commenced rewriting the Buddhist Scriptures and the Star Wars Bible as well.

Hepburn, Winfrey, and Aniston are grrlz. They can’t be alpha males.

Yes, they are old grrlz who can’t have progeny.

Not today’s version. They generally are about themselves.

Which is perfectly fine & dandy.

Keep flailing…

Right back at ya….

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All your lies are belong to us.

Bavieca
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I’m a MGTOW, MGTOW don’t lie.

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You’re an idiot.

Bavieca
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*YAWN* How predictable, female logic 101 “Any man who disagrees with any woman is an idiot or a misogynist or both.”

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Don’t waste your time arguing with and giving a platform to drama queens and/or men who are emtionally driven like a woman.

It’s a waste of your time.

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You are really working overtime for that White Knight Badge, as well as that Projection Certificate, from Gamma University.

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Mid-east is the douchebag way of keeping women in line. An alpha provider in the west sets a much better example of how to do it. The muzzies are the bad boys of the male tribe.

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I’ve drawn exactly the same conclusions as you. Too many facts and observations in real life support exactly your points.

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What caught me off-guard in the past is that this applies equally to dumb and smart girls.
Their survival instinct is to lie and create confusion.

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Smart girls (women) are just dumb girls with a better additional layer on top.

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One of your all times best articles.
Looking forward to expand on the red flags part.
“What a woman says…and how she behaves…are two different things” Mystery

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“Their primary life interest is men, because only men allow them to construct an image to others of who they want to be seen as: a good girlfriend, a girl in love, a girl who another man greatly desires, a sexy woman, an honorable woman, and so on. The man is a needed accessory in this manipulation, which is why it’s so common for a girl to dive into a long-term relationship, and profess her love for a man, only to cheat on him from the weakest of impulses. The relationship merely serves as validation of how she wants to be seen, not who she really is. The gap between who she wants to be and who she actually is gets taken care of by her advanced rationalization mechanism that prevents her from accepting she is rather clueless and makes grievous mistakes.” << So spot-on it's foolishly simple in hindsight. I believe years ago Roosh called this the "Rationalization Hamster and the Justification Monkey."

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The problem with no name actually does have a name, along with a voice and two XX chromosomes.

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Roosh,
What are your thoughts on Blackdragon’s approach to life, women and relationships? I’ve been following him and he appears to be a lot happier than you (respectfully stating my opinion here). Is happiness important to you? He describes you as an Alpha 1, do you agree?

Finally, I’m saddened that you failed to mention the more positive qualities of our “true” nature. I’m sure that if you think of your mother you can name some here to balance some of the hateful discourse that alienates some of your followers.

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Shut the fuck up bitch! If you don’t like Roosh, then why the fuck are
you on his blog you fucking, feminazi whore! You fuckin fenminazi
infilitrator! You should kill yourself bitch! Waste of oxygen fucking
whore.

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I love you too.

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And they say that the manosphere isn’t a bunch of misogynistic guys! Wow I can’t believe I am reading this shit. So much opposition. So much offence. The girl is talking about Blackdragon, another PUA!!! She knows more about PUA than you ‘fuck you whore’. Coming from another PUA, I’m so sorry about this. From what I see you are a pretty cool person.

My general comment about the article is that I’m pretty sad that #3 may actually be true. I’m hoping that NAWALT in this case.

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Well Roosh is honest with us describing his thoughts, it’s up to us to draw conclusions. But he should read the critical comments, it should get him to take better conclusions, because now he is indeed rather negative.
Blackdragon looks interesting with his polygamy , but how would you feel to be one of the multiple partners Andrea?

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As long as he is following BDs rules to minimize drama and he is completely honest, I would consider it.

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He has rules to prevent drama, that alone is interesting.
Honesty is key of course, but there will probably be a favorite.
And the FB, I doubt honesty is possible there.

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Why do you think honesty is not possible in regards to the FB?

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It’s already hard to be friends. Let alone with benefits.
One of the 2 will always be wanting more than the other is willing to give.
So the truth will be untold until that one will find out there will be no commitment (the question will come eventually) or finds someone else that commits.

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Have kids with a shitty woman and hammer her in court to get custody is essentially my mantra, Roosh. It is not a path for everyone and has some drawbacks for the kids, but is a hell of a lot better than “marriage” in this culture.

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And a mantra that is best left to juveniles such as yourself.

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#1 the lying is what continues to grind at me.
In an LTR.
Pick up? Short Time? — Amused mastery — neging/teasing… and ignore.
But, day after day, week after week in an LTR — there is no escape from the lying…and it grinds you down —
Thinking my only option as I age (in my 50s) is sell up and travel cheap in Asia…

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Remember the Maxim: Watch what a woman DOES, disregard what she SAYS.

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We’re going to have to upgrade Facebook use from being a yellow flag to a red flag, I’m afraid. This has popped up in too many stories as being a vector of narcissism, cheating, and many other relationship-killers.

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Wow.Nathan..umm obvious mail order bride- this goes well with your positive spin on slavery..

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This article is pure gold.

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Fuck you and your relationships with these crazy creatures. Marriage is a past time. Sad to see that you are breaking. “I want kids now because I am approaching 40 years old”

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Divorce is easier for women. A few years ago, at my workplace, a female colleague (teacher) announced that she was now free because she had divorced her husband over the summer. The room of 150 teachers erupted in applause. (I work in a school).

They were celebrating the “strong woman” who “must have been through a lot”.

I wonder if I would have gotten that support and applause had I, a dude, announced I had divorced my wife and was free.

I think it would all have been seen as a comment “in bad taste”.

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If it weren’t for double standards, women would have no standard at all.