A Conversation About What’s Wrong With America

My roommate from Denmark was locked out of his room the other day and waited in the kitchen for the landlord to deliver a spare key. I cooked dinner in the meanwhile and we got to talking. At some point he asked me, “Why are you here?”

“Everyone keeps asking me that and I wish I had a quick, powerful answer, but it comes down to two things: wanting to explore, something I think most men want to do, and wanting to get away from the American way of life. I really can’t say which one motivates me more to be here.

“In America you go to college, which you’re told is supposed to be the most fun years of life, and then you get a job taking orders from some pencil dick in this grand mission to chase money and accumulate stuff. I don’t need stuff—all I need in life is a laptop and good speakers. I’ll be happy anywhere because it’ll keep me busy. I can write, read, listen to music, stay in touch with friends and family… I don’t need more than that. Now I date girls young enough who think that type of lifestyle is ‘cool,’ but if I ever want to have a family some day I’ll probably have to make some changes.

“I don’t want to work 40 hours a week doing the same thing to be insulted with a 3% raise and a pat on the head every year. I don’t want to count down the days to the weekend where I punish my liver because my week was so lifeless. I don’t want to wait until Saturday to take a book to a coffee shop and lose track of time. In college they should sit you down on your first day and say: ‘Ladies and gentleman, your mission in life is to make the days of the week irrelevant.’ What day is today? I don’t know. Days of the week are bar and club names for me now, places I know are good. Sunday: Casa Rosa. Wednesday: Casa da Matriz. Thursday: Democratica. Saturday: Rio Scenarium. I feel like I’ve made it because I don’t care what day it is.

“Americans are lazy but they’re not. When it comes to money they’ll work like fucking mules. You’ll never see someone put in as many hours as an American, kiss ass like an American. They’ll do anything to make that extra dollar to get that plasma television or dine in some frou-frou restaurant that got a good review by some idiot on the internet. They’ll grin and take it in the ass when the boss asks them to stay in on Saturday morning a month before performance reviews are due. They will work and barely complain when you tell them they can’t take a long vacation. Hell, even if you give them a lot of time off they wouldn’t know what to do with it. They’ll take a trip to the Caribbean or some pre-programmed cruise to be trapped with a bunch of whales, one handshake from projectile diarrhea.

“When it comes to anything else Americans don’t want to lift a finger. I mean look at heath care. Americans think it’s pills and MRIs. Why aren’t many people connecting the dots between the American diet and health care? Americans eat like pigs, look like pigs, get sick with diabetes, heart disease, god knows what else, and then complain that health care is too expensive. Their lifestyle makes it expensive. Don’t get me wrong I believe the government should provide free health care for its citizens, but exercising four times a week is my health care. Eating vegetables, cooking all my meals, avoiding junk food, drugs, stress—that’s my health care. I probably spend more hours a week on my health than on making money. Americans don’t cook or simply take care of themselves because they’re too tired from making money. They want to pop pills with side effects to keep eating ‘comfort’ food and sit on their asses. After putting in a tough eight hours or more with the man that’s all they have the energy to do.

“And the women… ‘I don’t need a man. I’m independent. I don’t need a man, I got my own money, my own job. I don’t need a man.’ The result is that an American girl thinks it’s weakness to show a man how much she needs him. I don’t know if you had a corporate job in Denmark, but dating an American woman is like dealing with coworkers. They’re very careful with what they say. Every laugh is meticulously orchestrated—she must’ve laugh too hard now or you may think she thinks you’re funny. Every word’s use was analyzed and judged—she mustn’t show too much interest because that’s weakness. ‘Shit I just showed too much interest I have to be cold now—let me make fun of him about something.’ I’m lucky I’ve spent enough time down here to know that that simply isn’t real. That’s not how women, as in women of the human race, really are. Those American girls are basically programmed to be more distant than their nature. And they wonder why they’re so unhappy. Nature is a powerful thing, and you’ll always lose when you go against it.

“The other night I went out with this Brazilian girl. Very cute girl, a few years younger than me. It was our second date and we went out to some gringo bar and after our first drink she looks at me and says, ‘If you were leaving back to America right now, I’d come with you. I’d take a chance and do it.’ Other Brazilian girls have done and said similar ‘weak’ things, and Colombian girls as well. And that’s real, because the nature of a woman is she needs a man. These girls here understand that. They don’t hide it, and I don’t punish them for it. A girl that knows she needs a man, that that’s the point of her existence, will treat men very well. She’ll pleasure him, make him happy, hold onto him a little tighter at night. You think an American girl will ever say something like that?! If I tell an American girl some of the things that the girls down here have said to me, she’ll be shocked, ‘But but that goes against the book! They’re showing too much interest! They’re showing weakness!’

“You remember that American girl I brought back a couple weeks ago? Okay I know I’m in Brazil and fucking an American girl looks bad, but truth is American girls have become perfectly designed for easy, meaningless sex. It’s like one step above jerking off… no emotions, just business—like getting with a prostitute. It takes just three hours to get them in bed, and you’re fucking her for the first time and she says cunt this, cock that, like she’s in a porno movie, because she watches that too. I just met the bitch and she’s moaning that she likes how much I’m beating her pussy up! Look that’s fun, like how jerking off with your left hand is fun, but it’s not normal. A normal girl will be quiet the first time, will be self-conscious, will wonder if she’s pleasing you properly or not.

“The Western culture has broken the women. A girl wakes up and she’s 30 and has no man and no hope for a man, yet she already passed on several who didn’t give her the tinglies or butterflies in her stomach or whatever the fuck term she uses. Because of course the culture gave them this sense of entitlement as well, to think that with mediocre looks and ten extra pounds they can get a hot stud like they see in the magazines in line at the grocery store. And then they get old and have to compete with younger and prettier girls. They can’t win. They won’t. So what do they do? They throw themselves on young guys who still value older women as ‘experienced’ and ‘mature.’ But those guys age and get a clue, and then you see the woman going on 40, working hard at the gym, desperately trying to fight the sag, bragging that she fucked this college guy. What a miserable existence.

“My parents aren’t American but in the end I’m a product of that culture and it takes a lot of time and effort to fight the programming —to do what nature intended you to do. Unfortunately I think I’ll always be tethered to America. My family is there and I can’t even talk to my mom on the phone without her guilting me into coming back and taking care of her, even though she doesn’t need taken care of. I don’t know… I’m going to go back and the first month is going to be great with my family, and my friends, and then after that they’ll be nothing for me. I don’t fit in there, and I don’t exactly fit in anywhere else either. What am I going to do in the States—get an American girlfriend? Get a 9-5? Fuck that. I don’t know what I’m going to do.”[culturewar]

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Anonymous
Anonymous
10 years ago

Roosh, as per your last line, have you thought about a business somewhere in another country? You might have long days for a few years, but it could be fruitful. I’m not sure what type of business would be good for you to run, just a thought.

Paul
Paul
10 years ago

I’m going to go back and the first month is going to be great with my family, and my friends, and then after that they’ll be nothing for me. I don’t fit in there, and I don’t exactly fit in anywhere else either. What am I going to do in the States—get an American girlfriend? Get a 9-5? Fuck that. I don’t know what I’m going to do.”

This line hit me like a truck.

Seriously- Good stuff- you raise important questions.

I don’t know the answer, but I do know that you’ve just illustrated a big fucking problem for everyone like you and me

OG Sally
OG Sally
10 years ago

So, what was Denmark doing there?

I’m always amazed by how quickly Americans are willing to trash their own country. Do they think doing so will ingratiate them with foreigners? I’ve never heard any other nationality hate so hard on their homeland. I have had several people in Northern Europe ask me why I left America, because they would love to be able to live over there.

Futhermore, how many different cities in America have you lived?

boston66
boston66
10 years ago

mabee its all in your mind.

Virgle Kent
10 years ago

Dude, you went extra hard on this post and body slammed it and then jumped on it’s new couch. My favorite line among many…..

“Because of course the culture gave them this sense of entitlement as well, to think that with mediocre looks and ten extra pounds they can get a hot stud like they see in the magazines in line at the grocery store. And then they get old and have to compete with younger and prettier girls.”

Yeah man, thinking they can pull a George Clooney when they can’t even pull a curious George.

I suspect you’ve actually caused an American girl to commit suicide by now after reading this manifesto

Living Dead Bachelor
Living Dead Bachelor
10 years ago

The rat race portion really hit home for me…actually all of this did.

I know those 40 year old women…I know those mediocre looking women with ridiculous standards for men…I know those ass-kissing co-workers….I know those work-obsessed people bragging about the new stuff they bought….I know it all….I know it all too well.

Anonymous
Anonymous
10 years ago

what exactly did you say to that Brazilian girl who wanted to go back to America with you. You probably told her how ridiculous that is. So women should put themselves out there…to be shot down by guys like you just looking for a notch? That is supposed to be how the world works?
You may hate american women because they are the only ones with a semblance of female-game.

Aside from everything you say about women, the parts about healthcare and careers does resonate.

Will
Will
10 years ago

This was one of your best posts, which is saying a lot.

Typical BS
Typical BS
10 years ago

You want to talk about how bad Americans lifestyles are when it comes to health and how they work so hard to make money, then you say the government should give free health care to everyone. I’m working hard for my money so people like you can say I should give it away so others can have free health care.

Thats the typical liberal BS mindset. Oh this is so bad, this sucks, poor them, but lets give them free stuff. All that does is make them expect more in the future, there not held accountable for their actions.

Roosh, your smarter than that. In the long run throwing free money at everyone isn’t going to work. People like me are tired of paying higher taxes year after year to fund this welfare state.

j r
j r
10 years ago

for the most part i dig this blog, but i’ve got to call bullshit on this post. if you don’t want to take part in the rat race that’s your prerogative, but don’t pretend like it’s some damning indictment on the whole country. it’s a pretty sweeping generalization to say that people work hard or take shit just to accumulate baubles. some people work hard to provide for their families, put food on the table, educate their children, and so on. and if some guy wants to sit on his couch and watch a football game or a movie on a plasma TV, so what?

also, you should realize that your ability to “drop out” of the rat race is only made possible by the fact that there is a rat race in the first place. without all those people working forty plus hours a week you wouldn’t be able to live the way you live. in economic terms, you’re a free rider. does that make you a bad person? no. in one way or another we are all free riders. we all live lives made possible by the hard work of someone else. and that should at least make you think twice before dismissing the very things that make your life possible.

The Rookie
The Rookie
10 years ago

I agree with this when it comes to women. I disagree though w/the pursuit of $$. Isn’t it hot in Brazil w/out an AC unit? Is it so bad to want to work extra for more comforts in life? Is it fair to judge our parents and grandparents because they wanted to provide more comforts for us? I don’t think so. Especially of those who went through the Great Depression, something that the rest of us never experienced. None of us experienced unemployment facing starvation, homelessness, and lacking all of the comforts that today’s unemployed still have if they haven’t been evicted. That kind of desperation led my grandpa, who studied economics in college, to STILL keep money stashed under his mattress. It’s the kind of desperation that my own dad grew up in, where he ate the bones of chickens because there wasn’t much else to eat. And yeah, he worked extra long hours so me and my mom and siblings wouldn’t have to do the same thing. God knows I don’t want to work the amount of hours my dad worked (and still works) but I can’t pass judgment on him or anyone else who puts in extra work to gain the comforts we can purchase. Stuff we take for granted, like cruise control in cars. My grandpa told me of how they’d take 14 hour trips w/out it back in the day. Is it wrong to work extra so you can fly somewhere instead? This is a surprising post from someone who’s visited other countries where people work long hours just to have enough money to eat.

Look at superstar athletes, rappers, and others who put in hard work just to get out of the hell-hole they were in. Emmitt Smith grew up eating ketchup and mustard packs for dinner! And yet working as hard as he did at the one skill he knew is somehow wrong? Come on man. Hating on those who take advantage of the opportunities this country affords? What about immigrants, who work 2 jobs just to send money back to their families in poorer countries like Mexico? Or those who work extra hard to take care of those with life-long medical issues like down-syndrome, autism, or someone who’s suffered a serious head injury? Are you pretending to know the experiences in peoples’ lives that pushed them to working harder?

I’m not pretending to know how you grew up, but I wonder if you’re taking a lot of stuff for granted. I’ll use myself as an example though. I grew up in a place w/out public transportation. So a car was necessary, necessary, if I wanted to go to college, which was 30 mins away. My first car was a piece of shit. The windows kept falling down, especially when it was raining. The heater stopped working in the winter. Hmmm… work harder to get a better car? Duh. I couldn’t just get by on a laptop, especially when I couldn’t afford one at the time. Work longer so I could afford one? Duh. My point is that people have all kinds of motivations for working harder to get that extra $$. You might not have those motivations, but to hate on those who do in such a general way just isn’t fair.

URF
URF
10 years ago

#9: “People like me are tired of paying higher taxes year after year to fund this welfare state.”

What welfare state? You pay higher taxes year after year to fund a trillion $ plus war among other things.

Everyone works hard, and nothing is for free. You’re already paying for emergency rooms that have to serve people without health insurance.

The employer-based heath insurance system hasn’t worked. It helped bankrupt GM, and moreover families who work very hard, work full-time jobs, etc can’t afford their private insurance plans. And their employers cannot afford to provide it for them anymore either.

“Oh this is so bad, this sucks, poor them, but lets give them free stuff. All that does is make them expect more in the future, there not held accountable for their actions.

Sounds like you’re talking about bankers.

mulhollanddriven
mulhollanddriven
10 years ago

Women’s entitlement in America is beyond ludicrous. I don’t care what any of them want anymore. It is irrelevant and pointless.

It’s funny reading the females get angry in the comments. They just know deep down what cunts they are.

mulhollanddriven
mulhollanddriven
10 years ago

URF-

Great post. Especially the part about crybaby banker bitches looking for a handout. They lined up with their hands out faster than Ol Dirty Bastard in line for food stamps.

I don’t remember the last time the crackhead down the street that gets food stamps gave herself a million dollar bonus.

Virgle Kent
10 years ago

AWWWWWWW SHITTTTT, I guessing this post gets at least 60 comments!

@ #7. And how do you know Roosh and this girl aren’t dating right now still together and happy?

Virgle Kent
10 years ago

*I’m*

I know the haters are gunning

URF
URF
10 years ago

“The Western culture has broken the women.”

I’d think you’d have more pity for them. You know that the same could be said about the men

We’re all in the same boat.

Chris
Chris
10 years ago

The “typical BS’ guy is typical of a person with average to low intelligence waxing about a complex subject that he/she knows nothing about, other than what he/she is taught to think. Its a shame that that is representative of the majority of the voters in the USA. Its ironic that he criticizes the intelligence of Roosh.

Here’s some cursory education. Just look at the human development index, which is the only real measure of the quality of life in each country. The USA is 13. Most of the 12 countries ahead of us have free health care. This is only one, albeit a large one, of the ways in which their societies are better run than ours. Your a complete idiot if you think that so called “free health care” takes out of your pocket more than it puts in, in terms of preventing poverty, crime and other societal malaise that affects your wallet and quality of life. Saving your social services dollar, by not applying it toward socialized healthcare, is precisely like biting off your nose to spite your face.

Go get some real education on the subject, policy expert. Fucking idiot.

phoenix
phoenix
10 years ago

This post reflects exactly what I have been seeing around me day by day in the US and why I am planning to live overseas indefinitely.

Roosh you really knocked this one out of the park, don’t listen to the haters and keep up the great work!

Typical BS
Typical BS
10 years ago

#12: Yes we payer higher taxes because of the war, I agree. Your the delusional type who’s argument against free health care is to change the subject to the war.

Get over it, we are in the war, we have been in the war, and it will eventually end. Both democratic and republican Presidents have agreed that we cant get out now. Your point of bringing up the war when I’m talking about health care is not valid.

“The employer-based heath insurance system hasn’t worked. It helped bankrupt GM.”

The unions, who gave the GM workers insane control, along with failed business practices, such as faulty loan practices in GMAC, helped the failure of GM. The big corporations like GM are going to be the ones being taxed the most to pay for everyones “free” health care.

“moreover families who work very hard, work full-time jobs, etc can’t afford their private insurance plans. And their employers cannot afford to provide it for them anymore either.”

So you are going to tax the people and the already hurting companies, who cant afford to provide insurance for their employees, more? How is that going to work.

Yes, the system is broke but there has to be other ways to improve it. Some people still say we have the best health care system in the world. If this is the way, in the long run the national debt will soar causing us to start all over again.

Paul
Paul
10 years ago

Seriously Roosh, this is a great post.

Everyone who doesn’t agree with you is stupid.

oh. and fuck american women – god has a special place in hell for them

the end

CC
CC
10 years ago

This was high-level complaining. And poignant too, including the part about mom.

wayfarer
wayfarer
10 years ago

Here’s some cursory education. Just look at the human development index, which is the only real measure of the quality of life in each country. The USA is 13. Most of the 12 countries ahead of us have free health care. This is only one, albeit a large one, of the ways in which their societies are better run than ours.

GDP, while not a direct measure of anything real or meaningful, does tend to follow quality of life related indices with predictable certainty. Living in a country with a lot of money actually does mean that you tend to be happier. This is not meant to be in support of the american lifestyle, but social services are not the panacea that you’ve been led to believe. Money matters. Shit.

Brandon
Brandon
10 years ago

One thing I have to say about the whole americans working a lot. I work A LOT. Some weeks I work 60 hours a week. My job is pretty chill though. I also fill in for people all the time when they can´t work because I want to make that dough. The reason I work like this though is so that I can work for 9 months and spend 3 months traveling and doing whatever the hell I want to do without worrying about work or anything else, just having fun. I almost work all night shifts, during the day I spend most of my time snowboarding, which I love to do and keeps me sain while working the long hours during the week. For me, this is fine. I don´t mind working the long hours because it keeps me from spending money that I would like to save to travel. And I´m also doing my favorite thing in the world during the day. My days consist of snowboarding, which is almost always an awesome adventure, whether learning a new trick that day or riding in waist deep powder. I get done riding, hop in the shower, and go to work for 8-10 hours sitting in the back of the office half the time watching movies or hanging out on the internet. On the weekends when I dont have to work, I go out on the town with friends, find something fun to do or women to meet, and repeat the process until I have enough money to go on a 3 month vacation. This lifestyle is alright with me.

Typical BS
Typical BS
10 years ago

Chris a more valid argument for your HDI rankings is it has a 95% correlation rate with the rankings on average income. Not your argument of, some of the top countries have free health care. Cutting in to peoples income by taxing more will hurt your “rankings.”

There is no possible way a trillion dollar bill can save people money. If he is going to cut other programs that are useless. Then he should do it now, and quit using these useless government policies for ammunition to pass his political agenda.

Hes playing politics with people like Chris, who just don’t get that there is not an unlimited supply of money.

[editor: i removed some unnecessary language. tone it down]