Why Feminism In America Will Die

Worrying and complaining are inherent human traits. Some cultures lean more to the worry side while others lean to the complainer side. Americans are hardcore worriers and complainers, something that you can perhaps trace back to the makeup of those who founded the country several hundred years ago. For whatever reasons you can come up with, we are naturals at both.

In many poor countries I’ve been to, the worries and complaints that I hear are usually tied to survival:

  • “It’s hard to make money.”
  • “I can’t afford to buy good things for myself.”
  • “I’m scared of crime.”
  • “Food is too expensive.”
  • “My employer has not paid me in two months.”

Those in the third world spend most of their energy into merely eeking out a reasonable survival. They don’t get upset that their iPhone has lost internet connection because they don’t have an iPhone. They don’t stress out about traffic because they don’t have a car. I met a female engineer in Eastern Europe whose standard of living was lower than an IHOP waitress back in the States.

Americans don’t understand how high their standard of living is. A bus ride through the suburbs will provide evidence of this when you see urban youth who don’t even have full-time jobs sporting the latest smart phone technology and designer fashions. Only in America can “poor” people have what only rich people own in other countries.

Most Americans no longer concern themselves with matters of survival. While the current economic situation is changing that, I guarantee I don’t have a single reader who is not sure where he’s going to get his next meal. There is not much fear of being homeless or gunned down. Since you still have the human need to worry and complain, they will be centered around things that don’t necessarily improve your standard of living. You will never complain less in life, no matter how happy you are—you will only complain about other things that would seem absurdly trivial to someone who is struggling to survive. In the West, the process of addressing problems that are not in the radar of most people of the world—that are beyond the scope of basic human rights—is called “progress.”

American women, the most skilled worriers and complainers, are no longer concerned about survival. For the past few decades they have been able to focus all their energy into improving their gender’s power and status over men. They’ve achieved their goals because the powers-that-be indulged their demands for whatever reason (to gain money, pity sex, power, and so on). They are making more money than men, are more employed, are more educated, and even have the ability to destroy a man’s life with one false accusation.

But thankfully no more progress will be made for their cause. The American empire is struggling. More people are hungry, poor, and long-term unemployed. Americans are becoming more concerned with survival than fixing problems that don’t improve their standard of living. When everything was going smoothly, a feminist invention such as “sexual harassment” was a red alert emergency that changed policies and laws in a short amount of time. We put our energy into it because things were otherwise going well. But look at how the new feminist invention, “street harassment,” is slow to make progress. They’ve been at it for years, screaming about the “perverted” men who objectify women on the sidewalk with their cat calls, but it’s not getting mainstream support, just token recognition from law enforcement who say that “existing laws” can be used to combat it.

The truth is no one cares. Times are tough now and no one wants to put the required energy into indulging some overweight women who are faux offended when a Hispanic man whistles at them. Even Rush Limbaugh has not suffered any lasting consequences from calling a feminist a “slut” on radio. When Don Imus made similar comments a few years back, he immediately lost his job.

I won’t care that a commercial depicted girls as loving pink toys if I’m eating cans of beans and corn every day.

I won’t care if a pharmacy is giving girls a hard time about buying Plan B if I have no money.

I won’t care about some “rape culture” protest on a college campus if I’m already late on my rent.

In fact, I’m going to hate them for complaining about something so trivial when I’m broke and eating beans. I will say they are crazy and deluded.

Feminist progress is entirely dependent on a strong economy. A great example is Brazil, which is seeing incredible economic growth. With that, the feminists are achieving massive gains in power. For every GDP percentage that economy grows, I swear I see an uptick in hater comments on my older Brazilian writing. On some weeks, I get more feminist hate from Brazilian women than American.

While I would never wish for a country to struggle just so the feminists can’t make gains, the factors present in America, Brazil, and Scandinavia dictate that their economic success will equate to feminist success. This is not so in Colombia, Argentina, Eastern Europe, and countries in Asia. I don’t exactly know why this is, but I know that when America struggles, so will feminism.

Since our oligarchy is hellbent on sucking all the wealth out of this country through their wars and banking scams, that leaves only one outcome for the American brand of feminism: death. Within our lifetimes, without us doing a damn thing, it will lose significant power and strength. The feminism you know today will never get stronger as long as America gets weaker.[culturewar]


  1. beta_plus June 13, 2012 at 9:19 am

    Since discovering this site, I’ve long wondered why a few most developed countries still have at least somewhat decent women in attitude (not talking about looks here) like France and Japan, while Anglo and Scandinavian countries took their somewhat different dives into the deep end of feminism.

    What made those cultures different?

    1. Sam July 25, 2015 at 4:06 pm

      You’re exactly right. And the reason is that women held on to their gender roles and didn’t indulge in overeating. Simple as that.

    2. Stoic101 November 8, 2017 at 2:15 am

      Speaking of Japan, not to get too off topic or anything. But this guys youtube channel (from the video below)* has some pretty real insights into Japanese life. If you look past the obvious language barrier and stereotypes I think you’ll see how the west (USA in particular) could’ve or should’ve become like Japan. It shows how when a society is hyper insulated how cultural marxism doesn’t infest them the same way, if at all.

      Something major worth noting in all of this is if you watch this guys videos and look at the people walking around you’ll see tons of guys leading their girls walking with girlfriends in tow. How often do you see a girl leading his girl in the USA, ha, never. Not to say Japanese men are more ‘alpha’, but for their society its expected. I think America would’ve become like Japan if not for the mass melting pot of cultural marxism and the obvious flawed outcome of feminism.

      This video is not only kind of funny, but it shows a pretty deep divide and insight into society, people, men and women. I remember somewhere on this website Roosh mentioned Japanese girls are too ‘giddy’ I think was the word he used. I don’t remember exactly what the context was. And while obviously ‘like attracts like’ – white guys naturally lean towards white girls etc, the point is less about the actual race difference, and more to do with the actual society structure and the natural human bio aspect involved. Too western men Japanese men get the often inaccurate stereotype of appearing effient, womanly, etc..and yet their women are still being kept in tow (in line, so to speak) and gender roles are still being played out imo more accurately. I’ve never been to Japan, but the more I learn of the culutre and people the more I’m convinced they are simply a massive melting pot of how real normal people act, which will seem like a paradox on the outside probably at first. But theres tons of ‘tell tell signs’ so to speak. They have a triabl group mentality, they follow strucutre and order, but they also are pretty damn normal as far as I can tell. Honestly people in America might think Japanese are weird, but its really the other way around. A good example are tattoos; Japanese aren’t into them. It’s a totally different mindset.

      Anyways this guys youtube channel is pretty enlightening if your interested in seeing what America should’ve become I would take a closer look at Japan.



      1. Stoic101 November 8, 2017 at 2:35 am

        Japanese in my opinion are more natural than westerners and actually less socialized (which again seems like a paradox considering their massive infrastructure and weird fascination with tech, cartoons, etc). Porn is a good example, porn is something ‘not real’ – its something [for the Japanese] which as you can tell in the video is used as more of a supplement rather than as the actual ‘endgame’ so to speak. Point is it’s understood that its weird and not normal, and same goes with tattoo’s, and countless other things culutral marxism has brianwashed us into believing. The reaosn Japanese are more normal is because they have an ‘accepting’ (for lack of a better word) attitude towards weird shit.

        Point being, if something is fuckin weird, than they know it’s not normal, and so it’s seen as ‘entertainment’. The best way to think about it is like maybe American movies might be a good metaphor for what I’m trying to describe. Every (almost) person in the USA thinks of movies as simply entertainment and everyone for the most part simply indulges in ‘popcorn’ movies. I suspect in Japan this is the same ‘acceptance’ that Japanese have with anything which is ‘not Japanese’ – which is almost everything. If you look up a brief history of Japan you see how their culture assimilated pretty much every modern idea in a very very short period of time. Point is I think the culture tried to adapt to the 20th century as fast as it could and it didn’t ‘shape’ or mold the people which a slow globalization of cultural marxism would appear to do, like in the USA for example.

        Its kind of like if your family had traditional roles and normal human families, and then literally the next day all of those people in the tribe were bombarded with every cultural relativistic idea out there. Their initial family values and traditional roles wouldn’t immediately change because a family isn’t going to just change overnight just because they are thrown every idea at them (figuratively speaking). Point is Japanese shows many many signs of traditional roles and values and a lot of it has to do with their vast culutral assimilation and also their vast xenophobia. They do NOT ‘like’ other tribes. Watch a few of these videos, its not that Japanese are racist, not at all, they are simply keeping their tribe mentality in tact. It’s how you keep people normal. Anyways, hope this is somewhat enlightening or helps anyone who might pass by and read this. Good website Roosh, keep it up.

      2. Stoic101 November 8, 2017 at 2:46 am

        Obviously globlization and culutral marxism is a ‘slow burn’ so to speak. You can see how some Japanese are ‘accepting’ of tattoos on others (because they don’t want to seem like they are judging osmeone – God forbid*), but they also wouldn’t get a tattoo themselves.

        The point being that normal behavior is the norm in Japan. They seem eccentric on the outside because its all for entertainment purposes mostly, similar to USA and popcron movies etc I would think. From what I can tell I don’t disagree with hardly any Japanese in hardly any videos. The only times I disagree with them is when they start to sound like they aren’t being ‘too judging’ – like again with the whole tatoos thing. They don’t want come acorss like they are judging people and so they say, “hey I think they look cool or are for fashion, but I wouldn’t want them” – this would be a typcial normal response in the USA from a typcial normal person. Although I think in the USA currently if you asked about tattoos, half the people would have them. Anyways. Thats a rap.

      3. Stoic101 November 8, 2017 at 2:55 am

        I guess as one last thing, I can’t get over the honesty some of these guys have, especially in the porn video, like straight up they wish they had bigger dicks and were ‘better looking’ – I mean, to me thats really refreshing to see and hear. People in America are so fucking vain man. Theres nothing wrong with healthy self-confidence, but holy fuck, its on the verge of unnatural over here. The women especially. Talk about night and day.

        Girls in Japan may not be the hottest or whatever, but at least they act like girls. I would always tell one of my friends that when you ask out a girl, if she’s not shy or slightly embarrassed in someway when you ask her out than she’s a slut. Plain and simple man. If the girl isn’t literally genuinely surprised and has an OBVIOUS reaction of surprise that she’s being asked out than that bitch isn’t worth your time. She should be genuinely surprised that your asking her out. And I don’t mean like she’s unaware your hitting on her, I mean that she’s genuinely embarrassed in some way, or genuinely happy and it shows. There should be SOME KIND of reaction, SOMETHING, ANYTHING. I’ve asked out so many fuckin girls in the last few years with cold-game and shit, and fuck man, stone cold slut faces everywhere I turn seems like. So rare a girl is surprised. I mention all of this cuse I bet most Japanese girls would have a ‘giddy’ reaction and an actual human response to being asked out by a guy who was interested in her. That my friends, is rare these days in the USA. Good luck out there all.

      4. Stoic101 November 8, 2017 at 3:22 am

        One last semi-important note* – I’m well aware that I’m sure you can find sluts in Japan, just like anywhere else in the world, maybe even more so in some ways. I bet a hardcore PUA from America could slay girls in Japan. I think Roosh made a good point about girls taking the shape of the society they live in like water, but at the same time girls I think have natural reactions, simply because of their gender, obviously different reactions than men. And so the point is simply that I think there’s tons of Japanese girls while potentially are sluts (just like anywhere else in the world) it appears on the surface at least that they are more normal compared to American girls; i.e. ask out an American girl and get no reaction because shes fed constant emotional attention, compared to a Japanese girl who I’m sure when she get’s asked out probably has a reaction of surprise and amusement. Simply trying to clarify the difference. Sluts can exist anywhere, obviously, but I think even girls hypergamy is snuffed out in a lot of way in Japan. Point is simply I think Japanese girls aren’t as whore-ish, and if they are it’s in a different way altogether than American girls. Every girl has the potential to be a whore, the point is less about THAT specifically and more about the appearance they give off. I think Japanese girls appear to have genuine surprise in their reactions (a genuine naivety and innocence) which is more characteristic of more natural girls in nature, than a stone cold slut in the USA who doesn’t even flinch when you call her gorgeous.

  2. z June 13, 2012 at 9:23 am

    Yeah, and feminism is like the parasite that kills it’s own host. Freedom and affluence leads to decadence, which leads to decline. Feminism is the social force that tries to equalize the sexes, making the women more masculine and the men more feminine… in the end neither is doing what comes naturally. Which undermines the vitality of the culture. In medicine don’t they call this a “self-limiting infection” or something?

    We had a nice country for a minute there.

  3. Mojo June 13, 2012 at 9:26 am

    Great post.

    Perhaps why it takes root in certain places (America, Britain, Scandinavia) and not others is the cultural heritage of the former countries. Formerly puritannical (and especially Anglosphere) cultures seem to be fertile breeding grounds for ‘progressive’ social movements including feminism. Not sure about Brazil though.

  4. Jim June 13, 2012 at 9:27 am

    You have to see that feminism is within the bigger picture of leftism itself and realize that the whole structure is unsustainable. The votes in California in regards to union pensions is telling of where the nation is heading. And women are of course a huge part of that government system. It’s all coming to head and the end sum of it will be a huge surplus of female labor with no place to go and even more telling, of men who will not be around to make up for it. Many men will not support women in any way, shape, or form. They’re pissed as they should be.

    What’s more important is that any male of any race or origin who votes for leftist, and they are in the right side of the “two” party system, is voting against his own best interest. We don’t need a republican or democrat party; we need a male centric one that keeps government as far away from the private sector as possible. Male interest, and beta male at that, is in the best interest of the nation and that rationale has to be part of the equation. Note this doesn’t mean going back to the dark ages, it simply means righting a whole bunch of wrongs.

  5. Anonymous June 13, 2012 at 9:53 am

    great analysis

    however there is an ‘american way’ of **not** complaining openly: when asking someone how he or she is doing, the default (often false) response will be “great!” (even if the person feels like shit), while elsewhere people will give a more honest response to that question (when they feel like shit they will say s)

  6. NYCBachelor June 13, 2012 at 10:08 am

    Going to have to disagree with you Roosh.

    Women make excellent submissive and compliant slaves. They are interested in only the vapid and superficial and have no inheriant sense of justice or curiosity. Women are no threat to the status quo- they don’t understand it, don’t want to understand it- let alone rebel against it (rebellian is in and of itself contrary to the nature of woman- woman’s nature is submission to the dominant power, not contesting it to become dominant).

    By “empowering” women they are really making a class of overseers to distract and control the the real threat to their power. Men.

    Every man that is struggling to find a high quality job, make ends meat while paying child support and alimony, being harassed by family courts is a man too busy and distracted to notice and change the status quo. Even his anger will be misdirected towards the patsies the powerful have put in place instead of the people who set it up; anger towards the taxman instead of the Emperors and Senators.

    Long story short- Feminism is too useful a tool to the powerful to let go. You’re going to continue to see it pushed by the media, even if the latest idiotic of the “leaders” of the movement are ignored and mocked. One only needs to look at the latest summer movie lineup to see this is the case.

    Snow White and the Huntsman

    Two movies off of the top of my head that feature “strong” warrior woman protagonists; I’m sure there are more if you dig but a little deeper.

    The truth points to itself.

  7. AlphaTravel June 13, 2012 at 10:10 am

    “Americans don’t understand how high their standard of living is. A bus ride through the suburbs will provide evidence of this when you see urban youth who don’t even have full-time jobs sporting the latest smart phone technology and designer fashions. Only in America can “poor” people have what only rich people own in other countries.”

    You don’t need to be rich to live in the third world and have a smart phone. I’ve seen countless people in Asia and South America who had low paying jobs and were always complaining about how little money they had, how they couldn’t afford their rent or to eat yet they had a fancy smartphone, something which I don’t even have.

    Prime example is a bunch of Burmese guys I know working in Bangkok. They get paid less than $200 a month for working 12hrs a day and only one day off a month, they often get paid weeks late if the buiness didn’t make much money that month yet I saw them all with expensive iphones and blackberries etc. I watched one of them buy an iphone 4S for more than he got paid in a month.

    It’s not solely an America thing. People the world over waste their money on things they don’t need and can’t afford. People are obsessed with possessions and want the latest technology because they genuinely beleive they can’t live without it or need it for status. I don’t buy into all of that shit and don’t care much for gadgets and possessions.

    Feminism…well don’t even get me started on that.

  8. moses June 13, 2012 at 10:26 am

    Good post.

    I live in SE Asia. The GDP per head here is less than 1/10 the USA.

    I watched first with amusement, then with repulsion as story after story on CNN bemoaned how bad things were and how people were “suffering” during the financial crisis and housing meltdown.


    So, dumbasses who bought more McMansion than they could afford were losing their houses to foreclosure. So what? They’re fine. They’d just get a modest apartment or house somewhere. It’s not like they are dying or starving.

    Same for people who lost their jobs. 99 weeks of unemployment? Again, please.

    I went to visit my folks recently. The parking lot at Wal-Mart was packed full of late-model sedans and SUVs. Hurting?

    The reality is there is very little suffering in America compared to the rest of the world.

    I stopped watching all TV news. It’s all propaganda and doom and gloom all the time. That’s what sells. It’s crap.

    1. Driver July 25, 2014 at 6:37 am

      Good points here…I’d like to add to a couple of them.

      People who couldn’t afford homes or better homes (not strictly McMansions) were the ones losing out because they were financially irresponsible. Anyone making the same household income two years earlier knows what they can and can’t afford…yet no one took responsibility (bank or home owner).

      The extension on unemployment is needed to keep ‘the people’ at bay. The reason: we’ve watched good paying jobs leave this country over the last couple of decades. We are, now, seeing the ’cause and effect’ of those jobs leaving: many unemployed, no good jobs and it’s something to keep them from storming the capital.

      I do agree. Americans need to change their lifestyles. Many have no idea how to separate a ‘want’ from a ‘need’.

  9. Mr. Magic June 13, 2012 at 10:41 am

    @nyc bachelor I have to agree with you, it is clear as day for all to see the “modern” society and I do use that term very loosely is a war on the man and the family for that matter, because the “man. if you will that controls government and so called elected leaders behind the scene those not want his power threatened so he puts in “mami” over the man who is his potential competition, maybe not today but eventually he sees these potential “masses” of men as there potential competitors who will eventually come for his power. So feminism, the nanny state, woman being promoted over man to literally crush the man and destroy the family is all in attack on man in this global plantation. As Hitler was quote saying “first you get the woman, then come the children so come along the man”

  10. chris June 13, 2012 at 11:03 am

    I think feminism sows the seeds of its destruction for one main reason.

    Idle men revolt.
    Busy men don’t.

    By pushing for women to have careers and financial independence they have ensured that economic provision by men no longer increases a man’s mating success. Instead men will expend their mating effort on other aspects that increase their mating success.

    What’s the other area trait that increases a man’s mating success? Dominance. How to obtain dominance? Power and violence.

    In dad societies, men are too busy to war against the state. In cad societies, warring against the state will make you sexier and get you laid.

    In dad societies, men are busy.
    In cad societies, men are idle.

  11. jesse June 13, 2012 at 11:16 am

    feminism is a middle class phenomenon.

    while you point out that there are no feminists among the poor, the same holds true for the very rich. male money and power are what get women on both ends of the economic spectrum.

    you could also make the broader argument that a free market democracy is the essential ground for feminism (and for all progressive movements and the existence of a middle class).

    the idea that free market democracies are antithetical to cultural traditions such as family, community, etc. was laid out eloquently by Joeseph Schumpeter. shit will blow your hair back.

  12. intajake June 13, 2012 at 11:18 am

    Reader here who doesn’t know where his next is coming from ,I’m skint ,I have £5 left ,two weeks left tenancy for this room I rent and no job.In my early 20’s.

    reading online at public place,as I don’t even have a laptop/or internet connection.

  13. intajake June 13, 2012 at 11:19 am


  14. Jim June 13, 2012 at 11:27 am

    But, but this nation was never intended to be a democracy. It’s a republic that specifically meted out the PRIVILEGE of voting to land owners. I know the white male blah, blah BS might pop up because of that statement but in today’s world, everyone has the opportunity to become a land owner. It should be the biggest factor in deciding who should vote because it shows the ability to be responsible and most all, the ability to think in terms of holding the government underneath you. As was always intended.

    The free market is not the root cause of decline. A “democracy” where welfare recipients and government workers participate in the election process is. Capitalism is not the root of the decline either. A government that seeks to twist the free market around to give people equality is though. The housing bubble is a creation of government intrusion. The student loan bubble is a creation of it as well. As is everything else that seeks to set out equal outcomes instead of equal opportunity.

  15. Ian Ironwood June 13, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    While I’m not going to disagree with Roosh’s analysis, I do think it’s incomplete.

    Feminism isn’t going to die any more than Marxism or Christianity are going to die. What will happen is that as there are fewer and fewer men working the high-level service sector positions in private industry and the public sector, a lot of the wind from corporate feminists sails is going to die. After all, when middle-management is mostly-female, it’s going to be hard to scare up enough dudes for “diversity training” and other feminist thrill-rides. When it’s all girls in the office, “the Patriarchy” is mysteriously absent.

    But what WILL give feminism a sucking chest wound in America is simple demographics: feminists require a new crop of daughters to indoctrinate every generation, and as the scourge of hypergamy has caused men to wise up and delay, postpone, and even give up on marriage as a lifestyle option, so there will be fewer corporate feminists who will breed. In fact, the baby-rabies-inspired tizzy among “strong, independent career girls” because they’ve only got a half-dozen eggs left and not even a DATE — much less a husband — is indicative of this trend.

    Face it, feminism is no longer a viable mating strategy, if it has every been. Without the active cooperation of an ever-decreasing pool of gullible males to fund and provide sperm for their offspring, there will be fewer and fewer little feminists. Plenty of single female worker drones desperate for male companionship and validation of their battered femininity, but not many little feminists, outside of the academic circles of the Northeast and Far West.

    So, gentlemen, that’s the key to defeating feminism: quit fucking them.

  16. B June 13, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    Happy birthday ROOSH and welcome to Sweden the kingdom of misandry.

  17. Anonymous June 13, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    You finally made the link.

    What you have mentioned also applies for the “feminist movement” here in the UK which only seems concerned with the aspirational middle class, women as corporate board members, women as monarchs or the general right of wealthier women to hold position over the poor (most of which ironically are women).

    It is decadence, the excess of capitalism as is homosexuality.

    Even on Wall Street itself, Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein has lately portrayed himself as a great humanitarian. As proof, he doesn’t cite any willingness to acknowledge financial-sector crimes. Instead, he cites his decision to become the Human Rights Campaign’s national spokesman for gay marriage.

  18. Anonymous June 13, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    Sorry to continue about Banking but its worth noting the German Central Bank buried a report that showed women actually take more irrational risk as Bankers.


    Bank’s would employ monkey’s as Bankers if it would make them money. Making money is their bottom line. The fact they won’t employ women just goes to show they lack appropriate judgement yet this won’t stop the cry of “injustice” from these shameless hags.

  19. Moose June 13, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    Feminism won’t die. But as said above, it’ll die out as a movement. What I think will happen is that while we’ll never return to 50s-style patriarchy, we’ll “settle”. Men will return that role partly, but not fully. Women will again become feminine, though never to the same amount. We’ll turn back the clock maybe 20, 30 years on feminism and it’ll get balanced again. Feminism is strong in university-educated women, but amongst the poor (a surprisingly large amount of the country) it has no real hold.

  20. Psychonaut June 13, 2012 at 12:39 pm


    Learn how to deal sunshine and other happy stuff. Check out this website: blackmarket.com. And choose the product of your preference.

    Don’t let anyone fuck with you and you will be alright. Now you are warring against the state.

    “In dad societies, men are too busy to war against the state. In cad societies, warring against the state will make you sexier and get you laid.”

    Chris is so right. Wish you the best m8.

  21. Psychonaut June 13, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    Hey Roosh, 生日快乐 Happy Birthday. Your generosity will return to you. Karma is real.

  22. Anonymous June 13, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    “They’ve achieved their goals because the powers-that-be indulged their demands for whatever reason (to gain money, pity sex, power, and so on).”

    The reason was SEX. As someone who worked in the Square mile I can tell you rich men like Bankers created feminists.
    Bear in mind women can never go backwards in lifestyle yet after being pumped and dumped by her nth banker boyfriend and him tiring of her or her being too old to find another banker, these girls now look to legislation and the state to provide them a pump-and-dump pension.

    I’ve observed Bankers who have created this cycle of pumping and dumping middle class girlfriends who they can keep in a life of supreme luxury until they get bored of them.

    So many of these girls use their vaginas as ATMs around these guys. Aborting a child whenever she suspects he won’t wed her or that she can do better.

    This creates an expectation that has permeated throughout society.

  23. Jon June 13, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    the reason why Colombia, Venezuela and Asian countries don’t have the same level of feminist bullshit as they grow richer is because the men don’t put pussy on pedestals. Here in Asia, all men know that women look at men in terms of utility as much, if not more, as personality. So men don’t worship women like goddesses like American men do. They know the contract and more men think it’s a bad deal, so women have far less power.

  24. WestCoast June 13, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    I liked the analysis here but have to disagree due to the rules of global power. If the US economy declines? Colombia/Brazil/Mexico etc all get hit even harder. Much much harder.

    Second argument is our “debt” this is a bit like having debt to the Russian Mafia… sure the Russian Mafia has your $$… You really gonna try to take it from them? Didn’t think so.

    Big irony here in my view is the “complain and worry” seems like lots of stuff i have read on here is “complain and worry about feminism”. There will always be feminists out there, just as there will be ugly and fat girls, ignore them – Avoid the unhappy and unlucky, a feminist is both.

  25. Charisma Cat June 13, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    Inglehart came up with a concept called postmaterialism which is just like this – when citizens have their base needs met they then campaign for things like feminist causes, gay marriage etc.

    Anyway I hope this is a false dichotomy you’re presenting Roosh. I wouldn’t want to choose between starvation and ultrafeminism. I want to be able to have my Starbucks and still flirt with a girl without the enticing promise of a possible sexual harassment lawsuit!

  26. outlaw josey wales June 13, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    Feminism is a luxury, and it can also effectively attacked as racist. It is the purview of middle and upper-middle class women. Think about all the “name brand” feminists. Which of them is black? Which of them is hispanic?

    Diversity can be used to attenuate feminism. Why don’t we hear the view point of the black woman in the ghetto? Are her views less valid simply because she is poor and black? How does the slut walk benefit her or emancipate her? The attacks write themselves.

  27. Markool June 13, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    Feminism needs a strong, wealthy state in order to survive. The state becomes a male substitute, providing welfare (enabling and even encouraging single motherhood) and protection through laws (gender quotas, maternity leave, non-discrimination), police (you know) and courts (assraping divorces, feminist judges and juries, absurd “harassment” laws). No wonder they scream “we don’t need a man!” – if the state gives them money and protection from danger, they actually don’t. Unfortunately this is not what nature intended, and will ultimately cause their own neurotic undoing, but doesn’t change matters. The feminism virus is here to stay, and once one host dies or becomes too weak, it will simply find another.

    So maybe the explanation is quite simple: wealth or lack thereof. Without money you can’t have a strong state, and without a strong state feminism becomes absurd, as women HAVE to rely on men for survival, and antagonizing them could mean death, not to mention social shunning.

    As soon as a country gets its shit together women suddenly shed their feminine personas and start crying for more rights & fair treatment. See: Brazil.

  28. green crayons June 13, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Here is an example, in an upcoming film, about a woman (who is barely a 4 on a scale of 1 to 10 and who therefore ought to be as happy as a runaway slave she has a (hipster) dude husband at all, even then, feels entitled to more. So she has an affair. Thing is, most tatooed, unshaved “wannabe” hipster chicks from Williamsburg to Adams Morgan will imagine themselves in the same context. they wish. ha. the meme continues.


  29. Stuki June 13, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    As NYCBachelor hints, “the problem” lie not in women, but in men. By recruiting women as buffers between themselves and potential competitors, a subsegment of men has been able to increase their own share of society’s output, beyond that which they contribute themselves.

    Hence, “the solution” lie not in endlessly tying to get women to “become feminine” or some such hogwash, but rather in facing those motivating the women head on. Salafist Islam is by far the most notorious movement along those lines right now, and it is working, but need not be the only one.

    Decent men, and women, need to recognize that they are getting the short end of the stick not just in “our system”, but in any system where simultaneously there are mechanisms for involuntary wealth redistribution, and women have any kind of say in the redistributing government whatsoever. As soon as those conditions are present, whoever happen to be the most powerful males will, with the uncritical support of women (who after all are hardwired to swoon for powerful males), use these mechanisms to redistribute benefits to themselves, making themselves even more powerful. Which makes women swoon even harder for them etc., etc. Until we arrive at America anno now, aka Dystopia.

    Also, redistribution is not simply about money. AT least as important is access to military technology. If “the government”, aka powerful males with broads in thrall, can limit that to insiders and fellow travelers, wealth redistribution can never be far behind; since after all, what is to stop the guy with the gun from taking from the guy without?

  30. Francis June 13, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Hey reminds yesterday, I seen a “Women abuse” billboard while driving. But I gave it the middle finger in my mind. Really why would I care about that when I’m surviving off chicken burgers and potatoes rice for all my nutritionally needs? Sorry matriarchy control scheme, your not going to get any symphony or power out of me. lol

  31. Brandon June 13, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    It would seem there’re more reasons to leave America other than low grade women. Like inevitable poverty, destruction and death.

  32. Joey June 13, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    What a load of crap. Stick to writing about pussy. It’s the only thing you know a lot about.

  33. Odds June 13, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    happy birthday Roosh.

    thanks for writing about something other than pussy.

  34. Bogart June 13, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    If you want to have some fun making a feminist stutter and stammer to come up with an answer, ask her why feminism took root during the most prosperous period of the most prosperous nation on earth (USA during the 50s/60s), where women had it better than any other women in history, while it still fails to gain any traction at all in the places where women truly are abused and disenfranchised, such as Saudi Arabia or Cambodia.

    But then, why would you want to talk to a feminist at all (unless she is your sister or mother)?

  35. Brianmark June 13, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    @8 AlphaTravel – I agree w/ you about poor people in 3rd world countries buying expensive toys to impress their friends. I’ve seen some that have them, but other girls have shitty phones unless the foreign BF bought it for her. My ex-Ukrainian GF though nothing of buying a long leather jacket that cost more than a years salary. She didn’t get it but wanted it. Russian women are so into fashion, they starve to buy clothes and a way to Russian girl’s heart is clothes!

  36. MaMu1977 June 13, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    American women are fat for one reason: they’re lazy. That’s it, end of story. I’ve lived in Eastern and Western Europe and if there was one major difference between their women and Anglo women, it was the fact that it was a rare European woman who would use a car for all of her travel needs (even if, shock and awe, her lifestyle would have accomodated using a vehicle for short trips.) It was interesting to realise that the decidedly rural women in my German town saw nothing amiss with *walking* 2 miles in each direction (3+ times a week) to go grocery shopping.

    It goes hand in hand with the “obesity crisis” in Western civilisation. According to statisticians, Europeans are getting fatter by the day (by BMI.) True, but those Europeans (especially in the Western countries) are buttressing their weight with muscle instead of fat, unlike Americans. An American women who’s 5’5″ and 160lb of pure (fast food created) fat looks a lot different from a (for example) Norwegian woman who’s 5’8″ and 175lb of toned muscle. Both women are “overweight”, but the Nordic beauty is more likely to have a proportional waist and thighs that grip your own waist with fuck lust, whereas the American woman’s legs are too weak to get a solid grip. My favorite partner in my last year of living in Europe was 6’2″, 195lb. She was essentially a blonde, smaller armed Serena Williams. In comparison, I had to work with an American woman who was 5’6″, 180lb of lard, who had the temerity to call me out for ragging on BBWs. Her favorite thing to say was, “How are you gonna call out us ‘big girls’ when that bitch weighs a dozen pounds more than you?” I took note of the fact that my girl had

    1. A visible waist
    2. Eating habits that didn’t involve fast food for every single meal
    3. Enough stamina to walk 10 miles in a day (instead of complaining about soreness after 1 klick
    4. A functional libido

    And ignored the delusional hater.

  37. the passanger June 13, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    The feminism was not caused by a wealthy society.
    Look at Japan. The richest country on the globe when it comes to personal spending. And very rich state, with lots of social benefits or government jobs. Do we have feminism there? Certainly not.

    There is a specific culture in Japan and women are part of it. American culture is all about money, power, chest pumping, dominance.

  38. Howard June 13, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    I don’t think feminism is a consequence of prosperity, I think it’s a consequence of big government. Singapore is very prosperous, but I doubt its a bastion of feminism. It’s pretty simple, when women can get money from the government for jobs (teaching, health care (funded by gov)) and all kinds of entitelements, then they don’t really need men and can be strong “indepndent” women. Yeah, what a joke. Independent of men, not the government.

  39. the passanger June 13, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    MaMu- exactly, the root of their psychic side is in chemistry they ingest. Brain chemistry is very sensitive. It can be altered by a bit of sun, darkness, touch, sound, words, smells, food you eat and drink and smoke. When a girl constantly bombards its body with poisons, dead foods, toxic waste like fluoride – no surprise that she will start feel and behave badly.

    Realize this bitchez, i mean SERIOUSLY: american women don’t even know what and how a human being should eat.
    Imagine what she would do to her children.
    Once this is the case, she can be manipulated in every way- by PR, Marketing experts, politicians, social networks, mass media, TV sitcoms,etc.
    Her whole being, soul and mind is not in a natural state.
    And even the girls who eat healthy, still are subject to media/corporate brainwashing which has gone so deep, they often don’t even recognize it.

  40. The G Manifesto June 13, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    “when I’m broke and eating beans”

    Is this another Chipotle reference?

    – MPM

  41. moses June 13, 2012 at 6:32 pm


    “Pump and dump pension” – brilliant!

  42. Linanati June 13, 2012 at 7:52 pm


    Most American cities are planned to facilitate travel by car, not walking. In the one small town I used to live in where the poorer people would walk to the store (because they didn’t own a car), there were pedestrian deaths due to insufficient sidewalks. There was also a case of a child who slipped through an unsafe-for-walking bridge, but was fortunately unharmed. Her mother was unable to grab her in time because she had groceries in her arms.

    I don’t blame obese American women for driving to the store, but I do think they need to eat healthier and exercise in other ways. It’s amazing how many women with children manage to pork out. How do they do it? I expend a ton of energy (think: calories) running after my active children. How can women manage to shovel down enough food to get fat when they have young children to run after? Are they neglecting the children?

    BTW, I also eat a healthy, plant-based, whole foods diet, with the occasional consumption of animal protein, usually a small amount of dairy or fish. I’m thin, and my husband’s happy. It’s impossible to be morbidly obese unless you are stuffing your face with processed foods and/or too much meat and dairy. The lack of exercise adds to the problem as well. Lack of exercise shouldn’t be an issue for women with young children, but based on how many mothers are absolute behemoths, it is.

  43. Knockers June 13, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    As always Roosh man, top notch!!

  44. Nigel June 14, 2012 at 1:19 am

    Another great thing about a struggling economy, at least in America, is that more will will have to eat cheaper food (McDonald’s) and get fatter. The extra stress will also make them fatter. As it is, I’m fucking fat bitches in Walmart parking lots, fucking their faces in McDonald’s and Burger king. I don’t want to go to heaven when I die, this is better than heaven. Fat women are bleeding pussy juice and it tastes like gravy. Praise the Lord.

  45. Francis June 14, 2012 at 5:13 am

    Most American cities are planned to facilitate travel by car, not walking.

    Also will be shattering blow to USA, when oil is too costly and entire infrastructure is invested into fossil fuel vehicles; The American suburbs will be the next 3rd world. People say all cars can be replaced with electric of hydrogen. Btu I dont believe it. A average car takes about 50 barrels of oil in energy to create and get to the showcase floor. 300 million cars x 50 = 15 billion barrels of oil needed to replace all cars on usa roads. But that exceeds total known reserves of oil. TLDr: There is not enough energy left to rebuild the vehicles, and redo infrastructure. Countries following Usa city design is doomed.

  46. Morpho June 14, 2012 at 9:25 am

    Happy Flag-Day Roosh – hpe you get another flag today!

  47. Mage June 14, 2012 at 9:38 am

    I have a theory that Feminism is a natural abortion process created by God/Nature to abort civilizations that reach high technological understanding while choosing to live in ignorance about the moral laws.

    Its natures way of saying: If you become wicked you will suffer, die and you will have to start it all over.

    I mean its obvious there is a master plan and evil does get punished in the end.

    I speak this while not belonging to any religion. The purpose of religions is to ward civilizations off the self-destructive path, but they all remake these objective laws of Nature in mysticism and then end up sounding like fairy tales, then they start not believing themselves and then lose all power.

    1. zcrx901 May 31, 2015 at 11:08 pm

      thats a deep way of thinking about it

  48. tru June 14, 2012 at 10:22 am

    You American men are pretty husky yourselves. And not as athletic or sporty like European men. Also, you could have better dress sense.

  49. 20th Level June 14, 2012 at 10:44 am

    The more economic opportunities a female society has the less feminine they become because they don’t need to rely on attracting men to get ahead.

    But the problem of ever increasing feminist public policy is not them, the problem is us. Or to be more specific, the white knight half of us.

    Elected officials will go where the votes are. 80% of the women vote plus 50% of the male vote is 65% of the voting public. If we can get that 50% mangina rate down to 19%…poof! Feminism is gone.

  50. AlphaTravel June 14, 2012 at 11:08 am

    @Brianmark. Sure some of the girls have been bought those expensive phones by foreign boyfriends. I met this girl in Cambodia who earned $80 a month and had an iphone 4S and a blackberry and openly admited stupid foreigners have given them to her BUT many of the guys out there have fancy phones and things too and there’s no way they’ve got a sponsor. People the world over have things they can ill afford and have their priorities seemingly all wrong. Why struggle to eat and survive all for the sake of an iphone.

    “American women are fat for one reason: they’re lazy. That’s it, end of story. I’ve lived in Eastern and Western Europe and if there was one major difference between their women and Anglo women, it was the fact that it was a rare European woman who would use a car for all of her travel needs”

    American women may be lazy BUT so are many Asian people. I’ve travelled extensively in SE Asia and lived there too and one thing I notice is that people never walk anywhere. You ask any local how far something is and they always say it’s very far and you need to take public transport or a taxi even when it’s a 10 minute walk. They want to take taxis everywhere rather than walk a short distance, always complaining it’s too far or too hot. Yet most Asians are thin…..

  51. Sheesh June 14, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    “They want to take taxis everywhere rather than walk a short distance, always complaining it’s too far or too hot. Yet most Asians are thin……”

    At least most people still eat right in Asia. Americans have very bad eating habits AND very little physical activity. Only a minority in the US knows how to lead a healthy life.

  52. AlphaTravel June 14, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    There’s a lot of deep fried food in countries like Thailand and vegetables aren’t all that common in most dishes. People eat a lot of rice and meat mostly. It’s not unhealthy but they aren’t exactly super healthy either. A lot of people can’t afford to eat a balanced diet…yet still they are thin.

  53. Josh June 14, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    Happy Birthday!

  54. Bianca June 14, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    They are thin because they eat small portions or only one big portion through the day, although some things might be fried and greasy, they have their fair share of healthy rice and veggoes, sodas are not the norm and deserts are small and mostly fruit based. Americans eat big portions of calorie dense foods several times a day coupled with sugary drinks and deserts that can be considered a meal on their own.

  55. Mike June 14, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    American women are lazy, if they can get someone else to do even the easiest of tasks they will, usually a guy.

    I could write a novel of all the things women in my life have asked me to do for them.

    Americans overeat also. People in others countries even with plenty of food do not eat like we do.

    My home town people judge places to eat on home much food they get! Instead of how good it tastes.

  56. Senior Beta June 14, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    Francis @ 51

    They said the same thing in 1977. Now we have North Dakota. And Canada. There is plenty of oil. The dunce in White House just doesn’t know it yet.

  57. Mike also June 14, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    Happy 33rd birthday to roosh. the age of jesus when he died

  58. Nick June 15, 2012 at 12:40 am

    Sto Lat Roosh! Hope your travels keep you growing and writing great stuff for many years to come.

  59. Anonymous June 15, 2012 at 7:25 am

    Its interesting to see what the role feminism is playing in politics in my native Greece right now with their over simplistic solution whilst usurping the role of men better qualified to solve this crisis.
    They’ve had their middle-class feminist lifestyles and expectation subsidized by a state Ponzi scheme for years and they are seeking to preserve that even at the cost of national interest.

    If Syriza do win on Sunday will the last person in Greece please turn out the lights !

  60. Cyrus June 16, 2012 at 4:33 am

    Score 1 for roosh: minha vita minha casa (spelling?) gives the ESTATE to the wife at divorce.

  61. PC Geek June 16, 2012 at 2:49 pm


    Not to spark a debate or anything…but if all religions are fairy tales, then why are certain things so moral, and how was feminism ‘created’ as a natural abortion process.

    Other than that you came up with a pretty original theory there…I like it.

    I kinda wish that the aborting just got itself over with though so a saner society could start up from the resulting chaos…

  62. Firepower June 16, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    Feminism will NOT die in America.

    Feminism will only go into a remission. The bulk of those below the Upper Classes will degenerate into N. America’s version of a Brazilian ghetto.

    Our version of The Ghetto has NO need of feminism because women already run most of it.

    Feminism will retreat to the upper echelons of elites who rule the country. It will be a replay of Lords n’ Ladies courtly behavior played out in official government policy and LAW.

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  64. Luis June 18, 2012 at 1:38 am

    I hope feminism dies and is shunned good thing mexico hasnt gone that route yet

  65. Father Marker June 28, 2012 at 11:03 am

    What this post proves is the hypergamous behaviour of women. A strong economy means lots of taxes which can now be doled out to women who don’t like their men any more. The government becomes their new rich sugar daddy/husband.

    As soon as the economy tanks those women will be latching onto the first thing that wears trousers given that their former husband/sugar daddy is no longer able to supply them with what they want.

    I hope you men have all got suitable stockpiles of iodine solution or salt to keep those leeches at bay.

  66. lucy September 17, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    You stupid men are jealous. I’m a career project manager and high flyer in my office. You men are unable to match the iq of women

    1. Yep October 25, 2013 at 10:54 pm

      Your idiocy is mind numbing.

  67. A Real Man October 16, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    End the welfare state, and most of these “feminists” will see pretty quick that men are in charge and that they need to fall in line or starve.

    1. gu June 11, 2014 at 1:31 pm

      “End the welfare state”

      Women vote. Parasitically.

  68. The Jerk October 22, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    You linked this to bashing feminism in another post, but really what I see is truth in the old adage that educating women will result in a strong country, but if the country is weakened then so will a women’s power.

    I think the only thing you’re missing is now women are USED to the idea of them being in power. If anything, more feminists will pop up and fight even harder for their rights when they realize they are being taken away.

  69. Johnny Cash November 18, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    On the Bill Maher show, a few weeks ago, Alicia Menendez, a democratic strategist, says most women are completely dependent on government subsidies now. She thought this was a really good thing.

    If you look at how much interest is going to service debt it is currently around 7% and rising. Most all of this debt is short term so it is at a very low interest rate .25% or less. Really it is almost like we are running an option arm loan on the entire public sector. We can do this because we issue our own currency. Obviously rates cannot be raised in a conventional way without a drastic changes in outlays. And because entitlements are a majority of the budget they will be affected. Entitlements are used to bribe women for votes.

    If the public debt servicing keeps rising at some point America is going to get called out and may be forced to take a strong dose of austerity. I don’t know if when or how this will happen as I do not know the future. I do agree the America masses are getting poorer. I think at lot of this has to do with lifestyle changes, the masses of single moms being the 300 pound gorilla everyone seems to miss. Simple put America is the sum of its parts, if more of it populace lives and advocates a ghetto lifestyle, in the end no politician cannot do anything to change the results of living this way. And as we know in the 3rd world feminism is pretty much irrelevant. There women expect they will have to work and struggle to survive.

  70. The man has spoken May 8, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    I was on youtube just now and typed in “a celebration of men’s acheivement.” and underneth it said. “Did you mean: a celebration of women’s achievement.”


  71. Kourosh February 12, 2016 at 2:26 am

    I really appreciate your eye opening articles. We need neomasculinity to end the feminism BS.

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  73. Roger Berens June 6, 2017 at 10:41 am

    With the advent of the internet and international dating, western men are leaving western-feminist women behind. Western women are losing the battle to control men. Western men are now realizing that there are alternatives to western women who have nothing to offer. Single western women, particularly older women, are now complaining about the lack of men for dating. Heterosexual women are also discovering that 3rd wave feminism is lead by socialist- lesbians, who do not share their values, and have nothing to offer them but bitterness and loneliness. Feminism will continue to decline as people wake up to it’s destructive affects.

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