Why Homosexual Marriage Matters For Straight Men

I’ve been seeing a lot of comments from men wondering why allowing homosexuals to marry in the United States in such a big deal. “Let them do what they want, it doesn’t affect us,” they say. I wish that was the case. Not only is the legalization of gay marriage a full frontal attack on heterosexual men, it is part of a larger war to remove legal rights and behaviors that you are currently able to enjoy without state or mob interference.

Legalizing gay marriage is one phase of a degenerate march to persecute heterosexuals, both legally and socially, while acclimating young children to the homosexual lifestyle. The Supreme Court ruling in June 2015 allowing gay marriage doesn’t affect your life one hour, one day, or one month after, but it is part of a long war that will eventually criminalize or socially forbid certain aspects of heterosexual behavior at the same time it over-sexualizes young children in order to introduce them to homosexuality. I absolutely guarantee that your life will be negatively affected from the fallout of this ruling within a 5-10 year timespan.

The reason for this is simple: the societal reorganization that is necessary to allow gay marriage automatically elevates homosexuals to a special class of citizenry. To hoist one class you must demote another, meaning that heterosexual men are by default the enemies and oppressors of homosexuals. It is a foregone conclusion that these oppressors, which includes both straight men and women, must be ordered to give tribute, benefits, and submission to the “victim” class. You will eventually kneel whether you like it or not.

Masculine and straight behavior will be more aggressively modified through social shaming and re-education in schools, where young boys will be enthusiastically taught the superiority of homosexual lifestyles and the shameful privilege of heterosexuals, especially concerning the types of relationships that lead to nuclear, stable families. In addition, straight men will be forced under the barrel of the state’s gun to pay taxes for the AIDS drugs of gays, their impulsive sex changes, their mental and medical treatments resulting from sleeping with hundreds of partners, and also the salaries of politicians that continue to vote against traditional family values and basic morality standards. Your tax money already goes to Planned Parenthood and pharmaceutical companies to sterilize the female population so what’s a few more billion more to empower gays to continue their bathhouse behavior?

I’m also certain that gays will be exempt from dystopian divorce laws. Men’s rights activists genuinely think that allowing gays to marry will somehow put the spotlight on straight men getting raped in courts by women, but nothing of the sort will happen. Instead, courts will use two separate books. Gay marriages will be dissolved in an equal manner right down the middle while straight men will continued to be screwed by the system. We’re already seeing this dual-book approach with yes-means-yes rape laws that are entirely focused on persecuting men for consensual sex while letting women off the hook for sleeping with drunk men (1, 2, 3). Theoretically, yes-means-yes laws should apply to women just as equally, but we all know it won’t, as any man who gets physically assaulted by a woman in public already knows how dangerous it is to fight back to defend himself. Due process was long ago eliminated to favor women, and now it will favor homosexuals.

The increasing limits on heterosexual free speech was clearly shown in my Berlin lecture this summer. I had to hide the venue until the day before to prevent the sort of left-wing censorship that a month later led to thousands of Canadians trying to ban me from the country. On the day of the Berlin lecture, one block away from the hotel, there was a massive gay pride parade where half-naked men under the influence of alcohol and drugs were dancing and humping each other like they were in a nightclub. They dressed up at least one midget as a gimp and put him on a leash. Their hypersexual displays was done out in the open, in full view of families who picked the wrong day to go for a walk in the city, while a group of forty men including myself had to conceal their own behavior and essentially hide in one room, even though the content of my entire speech was more family friendly that witnessing even one minute of the homo display.

Within all the work, school, or co-ed social groups you’re a member of, denigrating the nuclear family or masculinity will not get you ostracized or fired. You can make a comment about “toxic masculinity” at work and not get written up by human resources. You can make fun of “lame pick up artists” in your co-ed social circle and get pats on the back. But what happens if you say that homosexuals are degenerates who are spreading HIV to the general population? What happens if you say gay marriage is state-sponsored anal sex? What happens if you say that children should be raised in a nuclear family? You already know the answer. It won’t be long until you will be forced to declare your allegiance to the homosexual lifestyle to retain your job, to pretend that you’re a believer in social justice just to keep bread on the table.

Even more sinister than modifying our speech and behavior is that the homosexual agenda aims to convert children by sexualizing them at a young age. The media normalizes homosexuals as loving and lively characters by showing their lifestyles as exciting, adventurous, and fun instead of the disease-ridden cesspool of drugs and medical horrors that it really is. Millions of boys who grow up to experiment with “cool” anal sex thanks to the propaganda will grow up to lead sterile and disturbed lives because of it—if they’re lucky enough not to avoid getting abused through adoptions by homosexual men.

Child abuse and pedophilic sex rings will skyrocket, but I hope you’re not expecting this abuse to be covered by the media. Instead, they will push fantastical new rape hoaxes that try to portray straight men as evil. Crimes by homosexuals will be not be pursued or publicized while false crimes done by heterosexuals will be manufactured. Homosexual crimes won’t even be properly recorded by government bureaucrats—statistics on abuse will conveniently stop recording the family makeup of the abuse victim once it becomes clear that homosexuals perform abuse at greater rates than heterosexuals. You just need to close your eyes and remember homosexuals “love” just like heterosexuals.

Once heterosexuals such as yourself are persecuted and shamed for preferring vanilla sex, and children are converted to bisexuality or homosexuality with the aid of a gay and transsexual obsessed media, marriage will decline from its already pathetic rate, birth rates will plummet, and society itself will collapse… unless we find some third-world shithole where we can keep importing immigrants to further destabilize what remaining social fabric is left. Along with feminism, abortion-on-demand, and birth control for all healthy women, gay marriage is a necessary step for destroying American society, and so the man who claims that “gay marriage doesn’t affect me” is like the child who doesn’t understand that eating ice cream every day is a bad idea that will put his future health in jeopardy. It is already affecting your freedom of speech and soon it will affect your sex life and employment.

The dust from gay marriage hasn’t even settled before the establishment has begun forcing transsexual acceptance down our throats with ABC, ESPN, and Starbucks leading the charge. The media has also started attempts to promote pedophilia as a reasonable alternative lifestyle. While I don’t even want to think of what comes next, I do know that if this degenerate march is not halted, we will see a complete inversion of American society where most masculine behaviors are made illegal and the traditional family becomes a relic of the past. Homosexual marriage will only embolden the degenerate forces that have power in America today. Unless they are stopped, I fear great catastrophe, not only for us men, but the country itself.

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Laguna Beach Fogey
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Catastrophe…as in civil war? Because that’s where this country is headed. And I don’t think it’s a bad thing. We need open, honest conflict.

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I think when war comes, in Europe and/or America, it will be truly savage. Millions of young (and not so young) men have nothing to lose.

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Hard to imagine a bunch of liberal millennial cucks fighting a “savage” battle. If it came down to right vs left, straight vs gay, Christian vs Godless, my money would be on the traditional side, not the limp-wristed fairies and their academic enablers.

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The fairies have all the hi-tech military toys with them, though.

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If/when war comes, I’m sure the movement will have backing by others with toys.

There are plenty of angry men, in every niche, who are waking up to the reality.

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Most of us troopers in the Combat Arms are masculine and straight as hell. They don’t call us drunk wife beaters for nothing.;-)

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I can’t wait. I’m always on edge just dreaming about ending this degenerate worthless country. Please someone start a war that I can join.

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We’re working on sending the first detachment of the European Volunteer Guard (EVG) to Germany later this year.

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I hope FBI is monitoring and able to trace you , before some more innocent people die like number of times before by nut-cases similar to you.

Snowden
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Maybe they can just use a drone to murder me. Isn’t that what we do now?

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Well some innocent people may die, … technology yet no there as we can see every day.
Just go out and enjoy , some beautiful things around (Ugly as well but it is your choice where to focus you attention)

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Lord forbid I try to focus on children in this modern degenerate shithole.

Maybe some feminists can come back in here and attack me again.

Feminism is child abuse and they are the worst people I’ve ever had the displeasure to meet. Horrible busted sluts who hate children, and their gay paedophile allies.

Nope.

You’re coming for our kids? I’m waiting for you. And I’m armed.

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So true man… I want kids as well, but before I bring a life that i’m gonna have to raise and nurture; damn hell I better be 1000% sure that I can do it, because this world a fucking shithole!

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Give me a break. Just have kids.
Dont wait. All the fucken idiots dont wait. its the intelligent people who are always waiting and most never do hence why were screwed.

But first find a woman of high genetic value. Not just someone whos “cute”. intelligence, longevity of ancestors, reisitant to disease, strength etc.

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It’s not for u to decide when I have kids. Its for me. DO what u want with ur own shit man.

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Someone speaks universal logic, and you reply with personal feelings? Apparently you’re a leftist female samurai. Give the man a break. Please admit, “I’m too fearful of that” rather than attacking the objective wisdom shared.

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First of all, having children is a matter of feelings, far more than Logic. When you love a woman and children its not about logic at all right? Secondly, dump your ego out the trashcan. Because you have an opinion about something which is highly personal like this does not make it factual logic. It’s your opinion. Most especially when this is not an equation you can call a logical thing. I tell you mind your own business about reproduction and you have the audacity to yet still tell me what to do with my god given choice and right. Serious ego maniac man, think coz u speak its universal logic? I think your universal windbag.. peace

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totally disagree. i do not relish the prospect of child rearring; it is my logic of knowing propagation is the meaning of life, that pushes me toward it.

P.S. THANK YOU For ANONYMOUS POSting, ROOSH. we need to take back the internet. this is my first post on your site.

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I wish if that is easy as In Middle east or south Asia where Arranged marriages can guarantees you one like that. In Middle ages, Different European tribes preserved their existance by intermarrying with their cousins and kinsmen only and so preserved their unique characteristics. Now, Europeans are destined to be wiped out as race because of European men portrayed as feminine and gay by Most media and white women as mischievous whores and booty hunt for black men and other immigrant. The only solution to the problem is taking control of your family as patriarch and control your family and kids and form your own tribe. Teach your kids importance of family values and make gayism and interracial marriage as bad as gross as dead corpse covered with diarhea.

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I’d like to support what you say, sounds great, but very difficult, speaking from some experience here.

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Lol… How bytch how? 😝 😝

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Its always been the Jews and their lies. Look at how many whites the kike ran Soviets killed.

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No one’s innocent, that’s only the first mistake you make, you’re a stupid statist order following foot soldier, a useful idiot enforcing the status quo, you make me sick.

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legal last time I checked and you totally said something the hive-mind wouldn’t like. I’m sorry my friend you’ve been voted off the island. They always come for you one by one, they get less resistance that way.

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There are several groups of men trying to form themselves into communities. Sure we’ll be under attack for having morality that isn’t determined by the state.

I’m just not ok with enjoying the decline. And throwing away 2000 years of my ancestors fighting to take everything that everyone is busy trying to steal.

The biggest problem we face, IMHO, is that they have weaponized our own women against us. You would think that the fathers of daughters who find the manosphere would be different. They are not. They can’t wait to send their little girls off to slut training academies to be desouled and turned into a sex object.

It’s going to be a long hard fight. We are in the stage where we can only prepare. I’m ready to marry a fat girl, now, who can pump out babies for me and hold down the fort at home. I’ve fucked enough hawt chicks in every way I wanted.

Now?

Now I prepare for the future with like minded men. It’s all we can do until the “peaceful” progs come to try to take everything else we build. Since all they can do is take and destroy.

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“I’m ready to marry a fat girl, now, who can pump out babies for me and hold down the fort at home. I’ve fucked enough hawt chicks in every way I wanted”

No offense, man, but what kind of shit logic is that? Last thing I want to do as society collapses is be staring at some fat dung heap of a female. There are no points in heaven simply by bring a few more white kids in the World. The demographic evolution unfortunately is already set.

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Very true. Still I don’t like to give up. I’ve been trying to set a very hard patriarchal frame with girls for awhile. Very red pill frame. It’s hard to try to pull a girl into harsh truths of life. I’m too old for this shit.

I need a purpose. And my purpose with a woman is primarily, now, to have some kids I can actually raise. I’ve got a kid, already. A little boy lost as fuck. There’s little I can do with a smart crazy ex. Just refuse to let her use him as a weapon.

Still. With the shit I’ve seen, done, and know is around me? I’m just gonna keep drawing a hard frame, right from the start, and try to keep it up as long as I can. I don’t like how things are but this is the best I can figure out.

There are a lot of fat girls around me desperate for my attention. Some of them have started to ask me out in their girl ways. Buying me shit and doing dumb shit to always be talking to me. I already tried to fuck a fat chick in a dry spell, though, and I just can’t do it. They make me sick.

So I’m not even sure how I could get one of them pregnant. Viagra? Fuck if I know.

There are epiphany phase wall hitting sluts, as young as 28, depending on how hard they are hitting the wall, that are trying to find their beta. At 35 I keep meeting them. Right now still chatting with this ballet instructor busted slut at 29. Still a good hb8, slick liar, typical daddy issues busted slut.

Trying to be a more honest person myself I throw the harsh truths of life down at girls. Which includes a put out or get out mentality. It’s getting old though. I set out to see if love was real. That’s all. Just to see, because the shit I’ve seen tells me otherwise. But, that fantasy, from childhood dreams. Ha. Then my feminist married women friend tells me I’m a player, calls me a pua, and tries to cheat on her husband with me!

Fuck all. Married girls are constantly trying to cheat with me.

Not really sure what to do. Draw a hard frame, make it strong as iron, and brook no compromise. Always be ready to live alone, but be ok with taking a girl along for the ride.

Busted 29 year old ballet instructor slut? I think she might be ok take along for the ride. There’s just not much better around. Surrounded by busted sluts. Modern male problems.

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Bang the married sluts. I have and you are probably doing their husbands a favor by accelerating the demise of their sham marriage.

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I have already banged a bunch of them. Mostly because during my divorce I wanted to see if I could bang these dumb married sluts. Found that married girls are the easiest girls around.

I’m just not ok with no morality. Not anymore. This shit is horrible for children. I’m more interested in trying to create some type of hope for their future.

Also I’ve found a really good way to make sure nobody ever fucks my wife again. I just won’t get married. Marriage was the worst thing that ever happened to me. Worst time of my life.

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Yeah, nice implicit threat, from a total poseur. Good job! Or, not, and maybe you should just STFU, kiddo.

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You can’t think that way my friend. Negativity is poison to your soul. I know shit sucks, but we got to find a way to turn this thing around and focus on uplifting ourselves and those we care about, as well as our civilization.
Personally speaking, I’m focused on making money right now. I know thats not the answer for everybody and it seems kind of empty, but at least it keeps me positive. Besides, power follows profit!

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Make $$, create a legacy for yourself… Good call

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You sound incredibly unstable. INCREDIBLY. Seek help. Right away. I am not joking. It would be in this country’s best interest, your town’s best interest, your family and friends best interest. I hope people like you don’t ruin this country.

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I just can’t believe the elite’s end goal is civil war. I mean that is what they are going to get here sooner or later, but why is that what they want? Do they think they are going to fare well in it? Maybe delusionally they do. Maybe they think it is their excuse to reduce the population to a “manageable level”?

If their plan is to cut the population down by 70-80% I can’t even contemplate the logistics necessary to achieve that. What method do you use to deploy termination? How is the clean up conducted? What are the environmental impacts from mass corpse disposal? How do you do this while still maintaining some semblance of a market based economy (I mean the executioners are going to need a supply chain to sustain them).

If they do have such a plan I will tell you what. I want to meet that devious mastermind who managed to engineer it.

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The Jews end goal is to rule over a global Communist government likely with China serving as their new main seat of power. Thats the NWO conspiracy in a nutshell or rather JWO ie Jew World Order or “Pax Judaica” as it is sometimes referred to as. The Jews not only want a second civil war in America but according to Thomas Chittum author of Civil War II the elite (Jews) want a nuclear war with Russia and China and are actually insane enough to think they can win it.

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Nothing said like an internet thread in which the opening is “The Jews…” Not saying you might not be right. Just saying “ahh the internet”.

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Want to see something that will really blow your mind? Google image search kosher symbols then go look on the food boxes and canned items in your house for them. The reason they are there is not just as a Jewish tax on the goyim but to alert Jews of which foods are tainted/slightly poisoned and which are not. The Jews don’t care that we goyim buy and eat kosher food at times as the non kosher food that we also unwittingly buy and consume makes sure that we are poisoned regardless. Plus remember to buy kosher food is also a Jewish tax on us so Jews benefit regardless even from the few goyim who wake up to this aspect of the Jewish conspiracy and then begin buying kosher food exclusively.

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Every morning, the sun rises … after what? The motherf’ing night, that’s what! The sun is behind all darkness!

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or you could grow your own food

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Sure if you can find non Monsanto non GMO tainted seeds at this point…but even then who the hell knows what the Jews are loading those chemtrails up with? Even with healthy seeds we are likely getting poisoned nonetheless via various slow kill methods.

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trust me you can find it, you just have to spend some time and research. for now they still exist. yes they are using many methods but that doesn’t preclude us from fighting back the best way we can. growing your own is one of those methods. best of luck.

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hitler was nuts, too……..you need to get a life

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Away with you Jew.

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well, no, i’m a christian farm boy, who probably knows more about gmos than you ever will………any stupid fuck who thinks he can effect real change by ranting on some pua site has got to be dumber than a sack of fucking hair………..you have MUCH bigger problems in this world than jews (try the massive debt we owe china)………get lost yourself, you babbling, mis-directed, mouth breather

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Same thing as simply being a Christ fag makes you a de facto Jew. In anycase you fucking idiot airhead selfie taking trend following bimbo Kardashians fan, before any real change can be had a public consensus has to be formed and one of the best places these days to go about doing that is (you didn’t guess it!) on the internet!! which is a venue where you don’t have to fear losing your job or being socially ostracized or having any other nasty tricks played on you for speaking out about this or that issue which badly needs change. Now back to your reality TV slop you low rent gutter trash.

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kardashian’s?? just what the fuck tangent did you drift off on? go ahead and sling your drivel, hiding behind your computer……the rest of us are in the real world, getting shit done, you little cabbage-eared freak-fuck…..shut the fuck up

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Drivel? Thats your Buy Bull you dumb broad. Now back to Honey Boo Boo reruns with you.

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come out from behind your computer, queer…..i’ll stomp a mudhole in your faggot ass………now shut the fuck up

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You’re the type of trash I see in porno movies with a toilet seat around your head and a guy’s footlong stuck in your idiot mouth. This needs to happen again for you soon so that you can no longer speak and keep the world from only wondering whether you’re an idiot or not.

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Kelley I think you’ve had one too many Buy Bull’s dropped on your head. Go get a different imaginary friend you utter moron you.

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you’re right……arguing with a little piece of shit is beneath me……go away, little toad

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There is no master plan. Get two people to agree and I am impressed, three and you can give MLK a run for the money.

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Some open conflict would be a nice compared to all this behind the scenes bullshit where people are out to get you fired and otherwise ruin your livelihood.

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War changes men, the whole biker culture came about because men weren’t able to reintegrate after the war.

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Yea no shit. Imagine the biker gangs organizing to put an end to some of this (as J Thorpe mentioned resultant from past wars), or some sort of preexisting underground faction. That would charge the situation and flush the bullshit into the open.

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In so many ways I wish I could accelerate the inevitable stand off between Lefty Progressive Liberal imorality, and those of us ready to fight the good fight. There’s bad ass acting fucks, then there’s real true badass mofos. I’m confident the latter is what resides on this forum. I’d just like to be part of the fight in my lifetime, because I fear the potency of our breed will wane when it finally happens. Some real Nostradamus going on lately in the world, surely it will only exponentially increase. Get ready.

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More like as in “Gulag Archipelago”.

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Yeah. We need open conflict. Exactly right. Nothing can be changed here without the Iron Fist.

I believe though, more importantly, we need the guts to fight… Emasculation of men takes their balls, and turns them into female/societal drones. A horse who turns when he is whipped by his rider. Clearly men are not, on average, trained to fight this… That’s another battle entirely. Its kind of like training for the war, understand my meaning? Possibly… this is the beginning, as more and more men begin to wake up!

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America’s lack of conflict since 1945 has been a leading factor in its demise. The 60s couldn’t have happened if we were at the time facing war or financial depression. Liberals are the first to condemn the “spoiled rich kid”, and the last to admit that the label applies to them.

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You softies in California cant fight-all the fighting men are in the Rockies, PNW, and South, You guys may be better body builders and MMA fighters but when it comes to room to room slayin’ with M4s and wilderness combat you’d be hard pressed to beat Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Colorado, Idaho, Kentucky, Tennessee, etc.

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This is a great article. It’s basically everything that I’ve been thinking but haven’t quite been able to put into words.

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Yes, another brilliant piece from Roosh.

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The logo at the top of the article is most appropriate. Read the book THE PINK SWASTIKA by Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams. One of the top 20 of all-time shocking-yet-factual books I have ever read, and ever since I threw a brick through my TV and punched out the cable guy, I tend to read a lot.
Here is a link to the book, but you can get the book at other places as well:
http://www.thepinkswastika.com/

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Nazis murdered homosexuals, idiot.

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Once again the failure to have the conversation under the conversation has been our undoing. I’ve been asking or years, “Do you think the left supports gay marriage because they give a damn about gays?” Hell, no, gay marriage is a nice solid club that can be used to get those throwbacks in the flyover states to tow the line (Eich, Davis, Idaho wedding chapel, Indiana pizza parlor, Colorado baker). Through a one two punch of social pressure on companies and legal pressure through lawsuits they’re doin their best to materially harm Christians for believing Christian things.

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In the the business sense, it could force those who want to do business “their way,” into tax evasion, non-reporting, extreme loop hole exploitation. Businesses may need to open somehow “within” a non–profit church structure to protect their beliefs and maintain moral operations – OR – go black market << which isn't likely for anything resembling retail.

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This is another best of all time piece by Roosh. Ties many themes together.

Modern society is like a big daycare centre where no one stops the kids from playing with their own shit.

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I totally agree Clark, this one struck loud. The government / corporate duo-screwo goal, is to make incremental changes, so the sheeple don’t feel the hit all at once. Review that past 10 years.. just 10 years man, and massive change has already occurred, but no one recognizes it because their microcosm of self-fulfilled realty star social media has kept them especially more blinded in blue-pillville than the previous 10 years could ever had.

No one is capable of a macro-view point, except for their career, marriage, kids, etc… all of which could be heavily affected by this type of shit. Following the safe path most commonly followed, and get royally fucked in the end.

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“daycare” or “gaycare”?

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Agree again clark.. Modern society just lets people kids etc do what the fuck ever. Consequently people are stupid, incompetent and sad.

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An eye-opener for me. Roosh demonstrates time and time again he is not just a doer but a thinker as well. Even if I had millions and retired tomorrow I doubt I’d be able to critically think and write about issues like this. I’m far too naive to be able to predict the consequences of what I thought was a distraction at most.

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“The reason for this is simple: the societal reorganization that is necessary to allow gay marriage automatically elevates homosexuals to a special class of citizenry. To hoist one class you must demote another, meaning that heterosexual men are by default the enemies and oppressors of homosexuals. It is a foregone conclusion that these oppressors, which includes both straight men and women, must be ordered to give tribute, benefits, and submission to the “victim” class. You will eventually kneel whether you like it or not.”

This is the linchpin of the article, but it’s a non sequitur. E.g., legalizing different-race marriage wasn’t a “demotion” or “oppression” of white folks or same-race marriages, nor did it inexorably lead to that.

The article is somewhat paranoid. There are certainly things the gay rights lobby has done recently that I disagree with, but gay spouses being treated by the government the same as straight spouses isn’t in itself a threat to anyone.

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Comparing racial issues to homosexual agendas and topics is apples vs. oranges. Nevertheless, clearly there is an agenda in place at the minimum, and perhaps an even larger one in motion. Regarding “gay rights” (special rights, protected class) & marriage: you can’t have societal changes without consequences.

You can’t see the forest for the trees.

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I think the mark of a strong, secure, masculine man is not caring whom other people marry. Instead of writing a long paranoid freakout.

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It’s not a freak out you fucking idiot. Just because I carry a gun doesn’t make me paranoid, it means I’m not a naive idiot. I dont give a shit what some faggots want to do in their own homes. Obviously it’s destroying society, so it has nothing to do with letting other people marry whoever.

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You don’t like gays. Fine. They’re still not coming after your ass, though, so let’s all be calm and put away the guns.

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Real men have convictions and standards. You are a shit-lib.

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You and I don’t want to or have to fuck other guys. That’s a standard. You and I can believe in our and other guys’ rights to love and marry whom they want. That’s a conviction.

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But you didn’t start your argument that way. You preached the value of non-judgmentalism and how it’s important to not care about anything.

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Until every other person getting married is of the same sex. Then it’s the mark of a beta moronic pussified faggot who let his society turn into a shit pile, when he had the scruples to change it in the past. Key here is NOT relying on 20/20 hindsight. Some things are nearly impossible to reverse with out violence. Note the SJWs violence against Roosh. Was he paranoid then?

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“Until every other person getting married is of the same sex. ”

I’ve never seen any evidence that the proportion of homosexuality in the population has ever gone up. Have you?

But you’re right, lefties are out of hand. Don’t see why that means we have to shit on all gay people, though. (Are you advocating violence against gay people?)

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“I’ve never seen any evidence that the proportion of homosexuality in the population has ever gone up. Have you?”

That’s an interesting question. I think human sexuality is more fluid than we like to believe. Let’s not forget in antiquity (Ancient Greece and Rome, for example) homosexual sex between males wasn’t really taboo and was actually considered a rite of passage and normal and healthy. And even though science seems to indicate male sexuality is a lot more rigid than female sexuality, there is still room there for some adaptability. As cultural norms and society changes to normalize homosexuality, it isn’t paranoid or far-fetched to predict a rise in homosexuality or bisexuality in males.

I think Roosh has missed some other major problems with the ludicrous notion of putting homosexual marriage on the same plane as heterosexual marriage. For one, it can never be foundational institution like heterosexual marriage.. because it cannot produce offspring except for through surrogate females. This opens a whole can of worms and complications for potential children.. who will be denied knowing and being raised by both biological parents, which is what is best for the child. Why are the “rights” of gay men allowed to take priority over the right of a child to know and be raised by his or her biological parents?

Secondly, while I don’t see heterosexual marriage being affected that drastically in the short term as a result of normalizing and legitimizing gay marriage, over the long term, it’s just another crack in the institution of marriage.. and cheapens it.

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I think the government should GTFO of the marriage business altogether. There is a point where the IDGAF attitude is a sign of apathy or ignorance, rather than strength and security.

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Regardless of how strong or secure a man is, he definitely should care if societal changes are going to erode what we have.

Nothing is accomplished by standing by and watching America slide down into the garbage. Pretending major changes in society will have no consequences is very naive.

It’s not paranoid when there is clear evidence supporting someone’s concerns.

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Those who desired interracial marriage were not numerous or cohesive enough to be a good example of a “class.”
A better analogy would be the general desegregation measures of the ’60s and ’70s. The forced elevation of blacks did require demotion of their white working-to-lower class counterparts. Desegregation orders effectively abolished many rights of freedom of association and local governance for white homeowners, employers, civic organizations, and government institutions. To this day, non-elite whites remain the designated whipping boy for black social pathology and the failures of the civil rights and equality movements.

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Wait, you mean my local Chrysler Plant’s 3 shits and 2 lines of completely minority status floor workers represents an etching out of non-minorities? Sarcasm. Absolutely true where I live btw.

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I honestly cannot see how desegregation laws are a better analogy to marriage laws than…other marriage laws.

By the way, I too am against antigay discrimination laws. If you or anyone else doesn’t want to hang around gay people, including at your business, that’s you’re right. So I really don’t agree with everything the gay rights lobby is pushing. But they’re not mustache-twisting movie bad guys… notwithstanding Roosh’s apocalyptic fantasy. (Which I doubt he fully believes.)

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“Gay marriage” is not comparable to interracial marriage. To begin with, there was little question that marriage across race lines was possible in the absence of legal restraint; this was why laws had to actively prohibit it. The nature of marriage as a lifelong and sexually exclusive union of male and female was not changed by the presence or absence of such laws.

In contrast, “gay marriage” is a contradiction in terms unless one uproots “marriage” from the thousands of years of tradition, theology and law that recognized it as an natural institution existing apart from the state.

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Interracial marriage isn’t a perfect analogy to gay marriage, but it’s close enough to demonstrate that Roosh’s contention — that when you liberate one class of people you necessarily oppress another — is of course not true. Your points are valid re: tradition but they don’t really get at the point I’m making.

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Not entirely. Women’s suffrage has negatively impacted men. Even if we pretend women are as rational as men, by definition, given them the vote dilutes the male vote. Given we know women vote for bigger government and will sacrifice liberty for security (and free stuff), the negative impact is obvious.
‘Gay marriage’ is a ridiculous concept given the lifestyle of the average homosexual (75% have had over 100 partners and ‘open’ marriage is standard). Factor in that homosexuals have been elevated to a protected class (contrary to popular belief, they were not ‘persecuted’ as a ‘class’ since most were – and are – middle and upper class. They are better educated than the average, earn more money and have better jobs than the typical heterosexual male. Quite simply, they have always had influence.
Now, they no longer wish to operate in the shadows. By legitimizing their deviant behaviour, society drops its guard and homosexuals have easier access to adolescent boys.
They are dangerous as a group and it will be society that suffers the consequences.

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Change the marriage laws. Ok… well, not really OK, but understandable in a way as people lead different lives. Push this shit on TV, at schools, in public, and you’ve got a whole new fucking story. And both those components in tandem, legislation + indoctrination, is a wicked combo.

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Another naïve or idiot. Comparing racial issues to the homosexual-feminist agenda, as some poster said is comparing oranges vs apples. They are using already all their means to shut men (and anyone else opposing them) up and you think they will not use this chance to do so while they indoctrinate children and convert them (or try damaging them regardless) into sterile homosexuals. A mark of a strong, secure masculine man is not stupidity.

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I don’t agree with everything in the article but having same sex marriage goes against 6000 years of human civilization. Perhaps putting homosexuals on the same level as heterosexuals does not demote the latter, but it changes the nature of the entire institution.
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But more generally, gays have more rights and privileges than straights. As a straight (white, abled, notionally Christian by default) guy, I cannot use my status to beat people over the head when they slight me. If someone attacks me because they don’t like me, they can go to jail, but attack a gay guy because you don’t like them then it is a hate crime and the perp will do more time and face double jeopardy when the feds prosecute them as well.

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“Perhaps putting homosexuals on the same level as heterosexuals does not demote the latter, but it changes the nature of the entire institution.”

I’d say it’s more of a matter of the law catching up to the fact that civilization has already changed. Even if there was reason to legally suppress homosexuality in the past, at this point in time it doesn’t do much if any good, and it makes a lot of innocent people’s lives shitty.

Although I agree that lefty victim-worshiping politics are out of hand.

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“Even if there was reason to legally suppress homosexuality in the past,
at this point in time it doesn’t do much if any good, and it makes a lot
of innocent people’s lives shitty.”

Maybe.. but at what cost do you want to normalize and legitimize homosexuality? It may be politically incorrect to state t his.. but it is a fact that gay men are incredibly promiscuous and the gay population has statistically much higher rates of HIV than the heterosexual population. Homosexual men are literally disease vectors. Many of these highly promiscuous homosexual men are also bisexual and sleep with women.. and are able to infect the heterosexual population. One can make a very rational and utilitarian argument without invoking religious condemnation of gays that it is a society’s best interest to not encourage and legitimize homosexuality at the very least.. if not outright condemn it. It carries a cost, I understand.. but so does encouraging and legitimizing homosexuality.

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The law (ie. a clutch of activist judges and legislators) is leading the civilization. I haven’t done a tally lately, but compare the number of places and times where same sex marriage was imposed by the judiciary (or in the case of Prop. 8, kept the road open), to the number of times elected representatives passed legislation. Then in the latter case, there are lame ducks desperately seeking votes (Canada’s Paul Martin), a few honestly debating the issue to a conclusion, and the case where they followed a plebiscite on the issue.
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Again, there is nothing about trying to “legally suppress” anyone: domestic partnerships and civil unions have been on the table for years but the activists turned their nose up at those and set their eye on marriage.

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the illogical comparison of race to deviant sex behavior.

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In 1815, women had no rights. In 1915, women fought for some rights. In 2015, women are always fucking right! Go figure it

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Prior to the 20th century the life expectancy of women was lower than that of men. With advances in medical technology that reversed itself and now in every industrialized nation women live about 4 years longer than men. That gap has been narrowing as feminism advances and women have to put up with the same shit that men have put up with since the dawn of civilization.
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Still, what other objective marker can you use to measure who is the privileged gender other than life span?

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Absolute classic post, it’s sad that some of this is already evident in our day to day lives in the west. The future looks rather grim. Move abroad men of the West.

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Don’t let your kids go outside. They are going to get ZAPPED by the gay gun!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1b6ko1I00A

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And if you are a straight white male who is also Christian, they will doubly be coming for you.

This is only the beginning of the persecution.

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Everything happens in a context. Sure, on the individual level, I don’t care what Jack and Johnny do; I don’t care that Susie’s putting peanut butter on her cooter for Fido. But it’s never *just* about the issues with these people, the issues are only pushed for their most degenerate outcomes, to harm the greatest number of people.

Context is everything.

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This. The second homo marriage got passed they started going after small Christian owned businesses. Progs will never leave you alone.

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That line about the gay parade in Berlin being out in the open while men speaking about traditional masculinity had to hide really illustrates the point quite well.

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I attended the Toronto (Mississauga) event and while it was declared a victory, the cloak and dagger nonsense for 50 guys to hide in the basement and have a chat is testament to how wrong society has gone.

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A good book to read on this topic (not the most masterfully written, but still) is The Homosexual Agenda published in 2003. There was also a similar book published in the 90’s basically predicting what has come to pass. I can’t remember the name of it but I do remember reading it in college.

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Good thing they’re bad at reproducing or we’d really be screwed.

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Unfortunately faggots aren’t born. They’re made. And any dipshit that doesn’t see all the empirical evidence pointing to this fact needs to waje the fuck up.

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Exactly, there is no gay gene. It’s the environment (society) that’s the culprit.

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Wrong. The evidence points at the “gay gene.” It might not be enough to fully explain the sexual orientation because there are other factors involved, but as of now it can be scientifically claimed that sexual orientation is primarily genetically determined. That’s why the legalization of gay marriage will probably lead to a decline of the homosexual population. It’s just a matter of time.

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“The evidence points at the “gay gene””

Then provide some examples of studies that show there is a gene coding for homosexuality.

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http://www.sciencemag.org/content/346/6212/902.full
Papers at
http://www.gaybros.com/updates.html
Particularly http://www.bmj.com/content/330/7498/1033.1.full
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/346/6212/902.summary
http://www.livescience.com/7056-mom-genetics-produce-gay-sons.html
Book: Gay, Straight, and the Reason Why: The Science of Sexual Orientation, by Simon LeVay
and
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/the-end-of-gays-gay-marriage-and-the-decline-of-the-homosexual-population/
for the specific topic about the legalization of gay marriage that will probably lead to a decline of the homosexual population.

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Having followed your links, the common theme is that the evidence is weak and far from conclusive.

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Simon LeVay’s work was massively flawed. Read the criticisms of his work. I remember it. http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/homosexual-brains/
The fact is, if the works cited were legitimate they would be pushed more aggressively rather than ‘experts’ and media merely saying ‘they are born that way’. The evidence is weak at best and false at worst.
Social factors, family structure, childhood trauma, societal attitudes (especially permissive societies), exposure to homosexuals (and especially their lifestyle), education, media, entertainment, etc.. all are influential (in a complex way) in ‘creating’ homosexuals.

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May I suggest you look further than the FRI (Family Research Institute, originally known as the Institute for the Scientific Investigation of Sexuality (ISIS!!!), which is on a notorious mission to bash faith-based arguments, like creationism and intelligent design into the minds of the zombies in order to further support the christian-right political debate.
Anyway, the distillation of it all the scientific research in the field of the origins of homosexuality up until now points to the fact that the genetic cause of homosexual behavior has to be considered valid.
Of course you have to take into account societal, familial, and educational influences, this is true for any expression of the human behavior: and that does not invalidate the genetic component.

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The gay gene is unfalsifiable. The weight of evidence is that hormonal imbalance in utero affects brain development. Being gay can be a biological fact, but it is not genetic. No gay gene has been identified and probably won’t be until every last gene is identified. Even then there are genetic theories about interactions among genes and triggers that bring about particular effects that are so convoluted that you can’t put your finger on which gene does what.
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Gays are about 2% of the population or less. Liberals like to float the 10% figure but that extra 8% are men who experimented at one point or another but are not exclusively gay. It is obvious that there is no hard-wired or genetic component for the majority of men who engage in gay sex. It is nurture, not nature.

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Research with twins prove that it is not genetic at all.

Also there is a strong correlation between child sexual abuse(boys) and this deviated same sex orientation.
Majority of them were abused, the ones that remember.

The theory that gays have a feminized brain is also wrong as it does not show to be similar to female brains..

Lesbianism is very false too, but that is another topic…

etc.

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Wrong read the research. (See below).

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I cant see nothing relevant. And it is well known that there is no science supporting homosexuality.
Gays constantly speculate, while affirming they were born like that, even though they can’t possibly remember their first years.
– There is a vulnerability that affects some people more than others. But nothing about being truly gay. And think, Why it is so hard to find clear evidence ? But we see evidence of child abuse, indoctrination, bad relations with their fathers, bad influence from their mothers, etc.
– Twins, make it evident that there is no specific gay gene. It is over. The best they might find is a series of genes that makes them prone to develop this disorder due to social influence.

– There are far more evidence that homosexuality is not real, than the opposite, and more logic, for example, there is no clear evidence of true homosexuality in animals, but they use it also as an argument.
I saw others referring to some old “huacos” pottery, of people having sex, some looked like gay sex, but it turned out to be ugly women, and even then it would not prove anything. What I’m saying is that these people are obsessed to prove themselves as normal before society.

What I can’t tolerate is children being indoctrinated which correlates with gayness being a mental sickness, because they show not to be responsible but degenerates that do not care about anything but perverting society, so to be accepted, included.

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With Roosh’s biology background, it’d be interesting if he posted an article on the gay gene topic.

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No one knows for sure but the research doesn’t rule out a gay gene.
That doesn’t mean society can’t urn a straight person gay though.

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Look at Bill Whatcott. He is something of a nutjob but he went from being a gay prostitute to becoming an anti-homosexual, anti-abortion crusader. I don’t think there is anything genetic in his actions.

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I have a problem with the idea that somewhere in the genome, there is a single region that specifically codes for homosexuality. As I explained a while back, the idea that genes operate in isolation and code in a one-to-one correspondence for traits is part of genetic determinism, which is dogma of times past. It doesn’t even consider epigenetic mechanisms. Some people might come up with a list of studies showing all sorts of vague correlations, passing them as conclusive evidence, but I’m not buying it.

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So u think homosexuality is completely learning?
I’m not convinced yet either way.
I get what you’re saying about the one-gene thing but to my limited understanding there are genetic markers that show up in certain animals with homologous behaviours.
Take the FOX-P2 gene for example only found in animals that have speech-like learning abilities (humans and certain kinds of birds).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOXP2

I think this is just a difficult question to answer kuz there might be a grey area. Both learning and genetic predisposition could play a role. And there theoretically could be genetic gays and guys who learn to be gay.

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No, I’m in the grey camp as well. Surely there is an interplay between the environment and the genome, I’m not contesting that. I just call bullshit on the one gene for gayness some commenters seem to claim.

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After his “evolution doesn’t apply to modern humans” article, it would be interesting indeed.

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Unsubstantiated speculations, please see my above comments.

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Yeah Im looking at the twin data, seems strong evidence although they have an association of around 11% for men, so that isn’t independent variables either. I know the more male sons a woman has the more likely she will give birth to a gay son. I was wondering if it might be something of a genetic game, like if a male gene is able to promote male offspring too much, the female punishment response is a non fertile male.

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Again, your unsubstantiated speculations do not pass the test of the scientific evidence regarding the “gay gene.” If you really had done your research on the topic you would agree with the conclusions of sound scientific research. As for mental sickness, it is everywhere, and it starts with constructing fantasies and believing in them out of fear instead of having the courage to accept reality’s evidence and simply working with it.

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It is not my speculation, but experts talking:
I already told you, that this is not about science for gays this is about emotions. I already read studies like those you quote, and none of them prove anything. But nothing I could say will convince you or any other gay, and I do not intend that either, for me this issue is clear:

– Read what this expert says, he explains it better:

Identical twins have the same genes or DNA. They are nurtured in equal prenatal conditions. If homosexuality is caused by genetics or prenatal conditions and one twin is gay, the co-twin should also be gay.

“Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%,” Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. “If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women.”

Because identical twins are always genetically identical, homosexuality cannot be genetically dictated.“No-one is born gay,” he notes. “The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.

”Dr. Whitehead believes same-sex attraction (SSA) is caused by “non-shared factors,” things happening to one twin but not the other, or a personal response to an event by one of the twins and not the other.

The first very large, reliable study of identical twins was conducted in Australia in 1991, followed by a large U.S. study about 1997. Then Australia and the U.S. conducted more twin studies in 2000, followed by
several studies in Scandinavia, according to Dr. Whitehead.

“Twin registers are the foundation of modern twin studies. They are now very large, and exist in many countries. A gigantic European twin register with a projected 600,000 members is being organized, but one of the largest in use is in Australia, with more than 25,000 twins on the books.”

A significant twin study among adolescents shows an even weaker genetic correlation. In 2002 Bearman and Brueckner studied tens of thousands of adolescent students in the U.S. The same-sex attraction concordance between identical twins was only 7.7% for males and 5.3% for females—lower than the 11% and 14% in the Australian study by Bailey et al conducted in 2000.
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“Neutral academic surveys show there is substantial change. bout half of the homosexual/bisexual population (in a non-therapeutic environment) moves towards heterosexuality over a lifetime. About 3% of
the present heterosexual population once firmly believed themselves to be homosexual or bisexual.”

Even more remarkable, most of the changes occur without counseling or therapy. “These changes are not therapeutically induced, but happen ‘naturally’ in life, some very quickly,” Dr. Whitehead observes. “Most
changes in sexual orientation are towards exclusive heterosexuality.”

Numbers of people who have changed towards exclusive heterosexuality are greater than current numbers of bisexuals and homosexuals combined.
In other words, ex-gays outnumber actual gays.

The fluidity is even more pronounced among adolescents, as Bearman and Brueckner’s study demonstrated. “They found that from 16 to 17-years-old, if a person had a romantic attraction to the same sex,
almost all had switched one year later.”

“The authors were pro-gay and they commented that the only stability was among the heterosexuals, who stayed the same year after year. Adolescents are a special case—generally changing their attractions from
year to year.”

Still, many misconceptions persist in the popular culture. Namely, that homosexuality is genetic – so hard-wired into one’s identity that it can’t be changed.“The academics who work in the field are not happy with the portrayals by the media on the subject,” Dr. Whitehead notes. “But they prefer to stick with their academic research and not get involved in the activist side.”

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Oh the double entendre of that comment. haha

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“Good thing they’re bad at reproducing or we’d really be screwed”

Wait until the nano technology in medicine gets to the point where they start breeding humans in artificial means.

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Fifty years ago our fathers and grandfathers could freely call gay men losers.

Now gays have become the cool kids with institutional support and legal protection. If a public figure called gay men losers now, the social justice punishment machine would fall on him and try to destroy him.

Funny how this inversion of sensible values has happened in my lifetime.

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That’s because the left is actually evil.

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Most of the new young male actors, I can’t tell if they’re straight, gay, or bi anymore. Pardon me… add cis, pan, and all that shit in too.

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Nailed it.

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Lowering the birth rate/population, opening all the borders and banning free speech are three necessary steps for ushering in the one world government. I predict that we go to war with Russia in the near future(since Putin doesn’t want a one world government) and we’ll use “gay rights” as the excuse to get the US on board. When that time comes, we’ll see just how peaceful these so-called pacifist liberals are

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In the future, members of the resistance will not be wearing Guy Fawkes masks, but Roosh V masks.

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We just supplied the Syrian rebels more supplies today, some of same group Russians are bombing. Echos cold war revival, but there’s your open door.

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And of course the media tries to make it look altruistic, rather than admitting that they’re just thinning out Syria to make it easier to takeover the Qatar pipeline

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I am beginning to think there is nothing we can do except hide in rural areas until Rome falls.

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“America is a mistake.A big mistake.” -Zigmund Freud-

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Fags are nasty.

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Written nearly 2,000 years ago. The parallels between the US today and ancient Rome are astounding.

Romans 1:24-32

Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised.

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

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Good article

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roosh doesnt make a single valid argument. its all hyperbole and speculation. bizarre.

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ORLY? You obviously like government boot on your face.

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thats not an argument either. no reason to discriminate against homosexuals unless you just like to discriminate.

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It’s the end of the world as we know it, I feel fine.

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I pray that those bastards get their comeuppance. What a vile century we have ended up in.

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It’s true. The world is vile.

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Isn`t the real problem that Governments have the right to sanction what is marriage or not. Gays petition the State to ratify what is really a private religious cermemony. Had it remained only that, would they still be interested?
No attention, just a private religious cermomy. I doubt it.

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It wasn’t like you could know. How can use that as a source ?

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I dont know if I understand your question correctly, but I have never seen any gays demand less Government, even though it was the State that banned homosexuality in the first place.
Lets just get the State out of marriage and see what happens!
If you think it is really about a strong desire for Gods blessing, a God who opened the very face of the earth to swallow sodomizers(according to the Bible), I think you are gravely mistaken.
It`s about attention-whoring and nothing else.

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First of all,I’m not living in the US. So I couldn’t know less about State law.

Of what I understand,the US isn’t secular. I live in France for now,and it is,so marriage isn’t about religious things here. Like,at all. And I don’t think any gay people is looking at God’s approval to live their lives to be honest,so right.

And I would like to marry the man of my life without a fuss to be honest. I can’t care any less about people getting naked at pride parades bullshit. I just want to live my life,like anyone else. Spain got marriage 11 years ago and nobody gave a fuck after that. I don’t. If you’re looking to attention whores,go to tumblr to get demisexual polygender faggots. I’m talking about normal people. And,surprise,they don’t hide either. A law isn’t going to create homosexuals. The special snowflakes came a lot of time after that,and that’s extreme left shit. I agree with that. But I couldn’t care less to be honest. But saying I’m a public threat because I’m gay,seriously ? This is no better than buzzfeed level. The SJWs doesn’t respect males,Roosh is doing the exact same thing here. but hey,posting this the day after nationalcomingoutday,tell me that is,not attention whoring. Not because a jackass on TV who happens to be gay isn’t going to be a jackass even if he wasnt gay. Feminists also attacks gay men for not siding with them. Talk about God’s justice here.
If you want a better idea to attack,why not alimony. It still exists,and for nothing. And I won’t have this problem with my husband atleast.

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-Marriage is not about religion in France?
-Nationalcomingoutday, how many people have heard of that?
-If you do not seek the approval of a God, why get married in the first Place? Just live together.
-A Law creating homosexuals???
I think some things are lost in translation here!

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-No it isn’t. It’s just about money. You have religous marriage and .. well what you could consider state marriage. Both,are unrelated and completely independant,but the only worthy one is state. Religion doesn’t really matter here anyways. It used to be tho.
-It was trending on Twitter yesterday,press like huffpost posted shitload of articles about it
-The most beautiful day of your life,when you’re going to marry that one person in your life. I want that. I am able to do that here,so I don’t,or didn’t make a fuss about it.
-Sorry. I mentionned what roosh said in his ” homosexual public threat ” article.

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-Agree with your first point.
But that makes it worse I think. Tax benefits etc. have to be taken from other citizens wallets.
-You shouden`t read Huffpost:)
How many of these days are there anyway. Im sure today is “Kazakstani midget day” or something.

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Huh,i don’t. I used to read that,but today,that’s just madeup bullshit.
I didn’t really care about that day either. I don’t care about a lot of things

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The problem is the institution of marriage. It is time we let go of any kind of institutionalized marriage, just like it is time to let go of all religions. We do not need anybody sanctioning any “union.” We are free. We can decide on our own and walk with our own legs.

On the other hand, the legalization of gay marriage will probably lead to a decline of the homosexual population anyway (by diminishing offspring from mixed-orientation marriages and therefore the genetic pool of homosexuality).

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At this point, the feminists need marriage as a way for women to extract wealth from men. In Canada there has been a process of expanding “common law marriages” such that if you shack up for a couple of years you can get divorce raped despite never agreeing to be married.
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There might be a valid point in the argument somewhere but it always comes down on the guy being the one who has to take action while the women just sits quietly and lets the state take care of her.

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There is no “genetic pool of homosexuality”, as it is an acquired behavioral pattern. Also, have fun living among hordes of feral gangbangers raised in single mom households – as that is what happens in a society lacking socially sanctioned marriage structure.

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Study claims homosexuality is a choice. DUH!

University of California Genetic Study Confirms Gays Not Born That Way – See more at: http://www.washingtonstarnews.com/news/university-of-california-genetic-study-confirms-gays-not-born-that-way/#sthash.Onq8lufJ.dpuf

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Because homosexuality is just about fucking other dudes and spreading hiv on your face.
Jesus Christ. You’re much clickbait-y as Buzzfeed.

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You actually summed up homosexuality pretty well.

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I agree, he summed it up perfectly.

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I cosign that.

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That’s the great irony. He did. He left out pederasty though. A major part of homosexuality (2 sides of the same coin). Hence the drive to ‘educate’ the next generation.

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Of course it isn’t the case. What’s wrong with you ?

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Why do people keep lying about that Salon article. Saying that pedophilia is a mental disorder rather than a crime is not equivalent to legitimizing it. (legitimizing what exactly?)

The goal is to protect individuals who are damaged enough to get hard ons for kids but are unwilling to actually go there. That isn’t equivalent to justifying child rape. But then again, most people are not actually capable of rational thought.

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We’ve seen the playbook, Tommy. We know how it starts and where it goes. Check out Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”.

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Mental disorders have been political footballs for decades. Gay sex was a crime, then it was a mental disorder, then it was not a mental disorder. Classifying pedophilia as a mental disorder takes personal responsibility out of the equation. Classifying alcoholism or drug abuse as a medical condition rather than a choice downplays the role of personal responsibility.
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It’s quite simple: don’t drink to excess, don’t shoot up, and don’t diddle kids. If you choose to do otherwise society should drop the hammer on you.

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Replace “pedophilia” with “sodomy” and your post could as well have been printed in a newspaper 40 years ago.

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A little too much “doomsday scenario”.

I personally hope more men choose that persuasion. The US has ratios more lopsided than Humpty Dumpty’s center of gravity.

If you woke up tomorrow, and 50% of the male population was truly gay (not bi or any of that Kinsey scale stuff), the situation would immediately be better for straight American men.

As for the schools, that is a good point, as this allows for non-stop queer indoctrination from a young age, but you’ll still have way more straight men, it’s biology the left wishes they could redress (lol) but cannot.

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Canada adopted those LGBT values and homosexual marriage long time ago. Canada is one of the countries that require recurrent immigration because they don’t produce enough population.

Mostly the things Roosh says in this article are happening here, right now. I’m immigrant here but I agree with the ” unless we find some third-world shithole where we can keep importing immigrants to further destabilize what remaining social fabric is left ” comment.

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I’m third generation and it wasn’t like this in the last generation.

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Not to mention this.

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Amazing reading !!

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Canada is fat and rich and kids are expensive. The Me Generation would rather have their vacations in Cuba and a downtown condo rather than bringing the next generation into the world.

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You know Roosh, I was just thinking today, there is no good argument I can think of to be against gay marriage,. I mean, yah, sanctity of marriage and all that, but lets face it, marriage has no sanctity. That’s been done away with a long time ago thru the family court sham.
Now, I can think of two reasons.
1. I dont want gays adopting/having kids. Nuclear family is best, and should be encouraged in every way possible. This is self evident.
2. The slippery slope is real. Like you said, the dust from gay marriage legalized hasnt even settled, and here we have bruce transjenner. Pedophilia is coming.
Thank you for verbalizing what many of us feel, please keep up the good work.

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Also, prepare your anus for ruthless persecution, like is happening for the last decade in Canada after a similar decision. THAT is the main argument.

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Pedophilia is next after they are done ramming trannies down everyone’s throat. Vox Day already pointed this out and explained that we will see the same arguments about “love”, “no harm”, and being against it because of a “sky fairy”. Ultimately every evil empire eventually comes for your children.

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Except I can’t see the feminists being pro adult men with little girls.

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It actually does make sense. You see their goal is *evil*. No matter what they say every action, every path, every excuse, and every argument ultimately leads there. That is the end goal. Islam is far more oppressive of women yet they have no issue with it as its not Christianity. It is only the Christian GOD they hate and all their work is directly opposed to him. Men buggering and sleeping with little girls? They’ll be all for that and if it involves blood sacrifice to Moloch while doing so they’ll demand it be a Constitutional right.

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Im 31. Most of my friends I watch sports with & lift with are 45-54. I keep several of these men close in my life for experience & advice. One of my better friends I have come to know for the last 8 years, he & I went out for a couple hours. One of the several topics we spoke of was homosexuality. Something that hasn’t bothered either one of us for man years (more for us type attitude) But it has now begun to seriously bother me.
The cities are almost entirely gay now. & Roosh, on your Q & A you did about 2 years ago, you said you will be vindicated before you die that nature as well as nurture creates these behaviors… I think you’re right. Although, my friend says its all nature. Animals can be gay, ect.
I believe that USA is just so dam gay now. We are way too fruity & it makes us a soft & weak country. It’s unacceptable for me. I remember that huge rainbow movement on Facebook. Disgraceful. The rainbow is a promise from God, not a symbol of pride.

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Time to take the rainbow back and give Isaac Newton, the man who discovered the light spectrum, his due respect.

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I’m 42 and agree that a disturbingly large portion of young men I see around the metropolis I live near are massive manginas. Manpurses, skin-tight pants that resemble capris (!), whiny voices, huge sunglasses, skinny, pasty, self-absorbed…WTF

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Even Arnold Schwarzeneeger had a rainbow on his FB cover photo-smh.

Were under a Communist-Zionist revolution-if the whole country was manly, armed, intelligent, and had strong and moral family ties theyd be facing Germnay in 1935 instead of their Golem like USSA satellite state for Israel Murica is now. Putins the only white leader left with any guts-the rest are worthless. May the Russian Bear rise!

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Great article as usual Roosh. Anyway Roosh and everyone else I beg of you all to either download the PDF version of the book Civil War II by Thomas Chittum or buy it on Amazon or wherever else you may find it. This book will give you all a good idea of when the next US civil war will occur and what to look out for as it gets closer. It also tells you where you’re going to want to be if you want to either get in on the fighting or avoid it entirely.

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Anybody who wishes to disabuse himself of simpleton ideas like “bu-bu-but homo marriage-LARPing doesn’t harm mehhhhhh” needs to read Pleasureman’s multiple outstanding essays on the topic, as well as the excellent discussions they spawned.

http://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/5549-homosexuality-and-gay-marriage/

http://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/69-the-nerd-sex/

http://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/8489-conflict-aggression-and-humiliation-in-modern-politics/

Further required reading:

http://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/6651-the-institute-for-advanced-homophobia/

If after reading all of this you still don’t get it, then there really is nothing to do about your HIV – my condolences.

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I’m holding out for a revival of Christianity, STRONG, uncompromising faith in God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and the Bible, not this watered-down feel-good all-inclusive nonsense that’s been a cancer on hapless white folks across America for decades. “Be fruitful and multiply” is just one of many commandments in God’s word that the degenerate agenda of materialistic Leftism wishes it could destroy, but probably won’t succeed.

Say what you will about the African and Latino communities, but they’re not going to readily accept homosexuality either. While I do not think it’s necessarily a good thing to commit violent acts on someone merely for being a homosexual, it’s reassuring that your typical ghetto-dwelling black or Mexican dude would sooner kill another man than perform gay acts with him.

All of this begs the question, how far is our government willing to go to push the LGBT agenda? Are they going to sic a SWAT team or the armed forces on crowds of people who aren’t going to accept the elevation of homosexualism and aren’t afraid to speak out against it in public? Sure, they’ve done a great job persecuting heteronormative business owners through smear journalism and a corrupt legal system. But even in those grim scenarios, there’s plenty of traditionalist support from the right-wing blogosphere, and even crowd-funding efforts which have pledged thousands of dollars to the legal defense of entrepreneurs who are brave enough to refuse to cater to gay weddings.

This is an exciting time to be alive; it sucks to see so many God-fearing men and women getting screwed over by a system which glorifies sexual deviancy, putting ideals before truth and feelings before facts. But on the other hand, we seem to be at a turning point, where more and more people are starting to wake up to the realities of homosexuals and leftists: that is, that our enemies won’t stop until they’ve seized total control of all institutions around the world and stripped away everything good and pure. If evil wants to triumph over good, they’re going to have to pull out all the stops, and turn countries like America and Canada into North Korea-like totalitarian dictatorships. If it comes to this, if they take away our freedom of speech and free information (via the internet), then I guarantee you there will be bloodshed, in the form of the most fiery revolution that white Europeans have seen in centuries.

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The only thing I’ve been able to find is a small group currently at;

http://www.mikraite.org

I’d like to see what roosh and co can come up with in neomasculinity.

We need something. Some tradition, some purpose, other then hedonistic despair.

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Thats the exact opposite of what we need as Christ insanity is a Jewish conspiracy to control whites and any other goyim dumb enough to fall for it’s lies. What we actually need is a white European pagan revival along with a revival of National Socialism. Then we can drive these Jews out of power for once and for all.

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the sad thing is, I don’t think you’re joking

go back to metapedia or stormfront or whatever closed-minded hellhole you came from. not all Jewish people are cultural marxists or leftist ideologues

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Why don’t you get lost instead? Roosh and I are trying to awaken everyone to the Jewish agenda and you (likely a Jew yourself) are trying to get in the way of our mission. So its you who really doesn’t belong here Rabbi. In anycase Jews are psychopaths that play both sides. Jews will pretend to be liberal Democrats on one side ie John Stewart (Liebowitz) and on the other pretend to be conservative Republicans Michael Savage (Wiener) but in reality they are on one side. Their own. The side of the Jewish people and will structure everything they do and say to fool and manipulate the gullible goyim (whites and other non Jews) for their end goals and purposes. So sure not all Jews push and promote cultural Marxism or liberalism or Communism but that doesn’t suddenly mean they are harmless and pro white. The Jews that seem to promote for white interests are simply manipulating whites to (falsely) believe that not all Jews are against them when that is just not the case. Jews are only out for #1 ie themselves and their own race/tribal group of people.

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lol i bet you’ve had at least one potential girlfriend stolen by a tall built Jew. shut the fuck up with that “Roosh and I” garbage, as if you’re his right-hand man or something. Roosh isn’t even Anglo, he’s Middle-Eastern, most white supremacists I’ve seen online hate him. Anyway…go kiss David Duke’s ass some more, clown, and don’t walk near a thunderstorm while wearing that tinfoil hat of yours…

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Duke is one of your agents. You keep him for yourself kike boy. As for tall built jew lol where? You’re all scrawny, weak, effeminate parasites with frizzly hair. In anycase only “whites” on your controlled dissent site Stormfront are against creating alliances with like minded non whites against Jewish evil. Intelligent whites like myself however welcome all races to wake up to the Jewish threat and take down Jewish power. I even hope for more self hating non psychopathic Jews like Bobby Fischer to come forward in this effort.

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If you were an “intelligent white” you’d have something better to do than post on blogs like RoK about how much you hate Jews. And that’s exactly why you’re useless to the cause of whites: you don’t actually care about your fellow whites, you just hate everyone who isn’t white, and use WN as an outlet for that hate.

That being said, you’re a pathetic piece of trash until proven otherwise. Wake up or kill yourself.

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If my posting on ROK wasn’t effective or thought to be effective a kike like you wouldn’t be here whining about it. Seriously though you kikes are on all sites whining and crying and trying to shut down dissent wherever you find it. Its you who needs to fuck off and kill yourself. Infact you should go do that right now. No, seriously go do it right now. Skip the planned metzizah b’peh ritual and spare some poor child of being molested and just off yourself you sick kike fuck.

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you’re gay lol

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Ugh. You again? Get lost kike.

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As white people what we don’t need is the Jewish Christ cult in our lives, Jew Communism, Jew capitalism or any other Jew isms. What we need is complete freedom from Jewish control of our lives, minds and bodies. What we need is the 110th and hopefully final Jewish expulsion from white societies.

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All you have to do is substitute Black for homosexual and that’s what’s been happening since 1965. It won’t stop there until White Christian Males are put down, then these lampreys will find another target.

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Stop linking National Socialism with everything bad, especially the homo agenda. It is historically false (exactly opposite in fact) and is a lamestream Jews media tactic. ROK should be above the mainstream false propaganda. This kind of intellectual dishonesty (or ignorance) ruins otherwise good articles.

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jews want to give the gift to goys!!!

https://youtu.be/v_tHrCFnrGs

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The gay agenda is just more cultural marxism. All these appendages of cultural marxism,whether it’s gays, radical feminism, ect are used as weapons to destroy the traditional nuclear family, the building block of civilization. In the end the marxists won’t win. They are parasites, and like any parasite, they will perish when they can no longer feed off the host they’re attempting to destroy.

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I am ok with people being gay. I don’t understand it: guys are ugly, I am surprised that women want to have sex with us at all. I can’t fault homosexuality on some moral basis: I have done things with and to women that would shock even Roosh.
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Where the problem comes is when politics comes into it, in the form of government intervention. At that point it is no longer live and let live but rather mobilizing the state apparatus to one end or another. If some shithead at a bakery does not want to make me a cake, I take my business elsewhere. I would never think that I was entitled to sue them for $10,000 or $50,000 or $135,000.
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If someone offends me with bad jokes, I leave rather than suing them. I do not expect to be exempt from obscenity or public indecency laws because I have a “lifestyle”.
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One Halloween I dressed as a lion tamer and had my girl in a cat suit and lead her about on a leash, with a whip in hand. That was Halloween: I don’t need a “pride” day and I don’t expect to be taken seriously or put that out as a way of life that society must approve of, or to sponsor some parade to the tune of $100k of city money, or be able to sue to city into giving it to me.
I don’t think that S&M should be taught to primary school children and I don’t think that homosexuality should be taught either (see Ontario and their new curriculum).
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As for marriage, gays have been offered equal rights time and again in the form of domestic partnerships and the like. A number of gays are actually opposed to gay marriage on the basis that they will “ape the breeders”. The issue was hijacked by a bunch of activists and straight, guilt-ridden liberals. They would not take yes for an answer.
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For thousands of years, marriage has been a bond between men and women. Sure, some societies at some times condoned gay relationships and even formalized them, but they were never marriages nor a substitute for them. The “if two people love each other” argument only really came up in the 20th century. Before that, marriage was a way to enclose heterosexual sex, and provide a structure for creating a family, expanding the population, and passing on your estate to the next generation.
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The effects of gay adoption are no better researched than the effects of eating GMO corn and such. And yet, the “precautionary principle” rules the left on the latter issue but goes out the window regarding the former.
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Seven years in Vancouver rid me of anything that could reasonably be called “homophobia”. It’s the politics that I hate.

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Its not going to get this bad, because the real men left are going to stand up and fight. First we gotta teach men about the red pill and the truth about women. Then we can smash the social degeneration project we live in…

Free one man from The Matrix at a time

Never surrender.

Fight to the death..

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Roosh has gone from insightful to paranoid. Living a life where you interact too much with feminist crazies, mangina keyboard warriors, Tumblr crazies etc has clearly rubbed off. Nothing wrong with being a cynic as such, but it does make me questions whether he truly has a balanced perspective anymore. These comments though……go outside you freaks!

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Not that I am onboard with the whole Red Pill thing anyways, but you are really barking at the wrong tree here. Metaphorically speaking. Gay males en masse have no more interest in abolishing masculinity than straight males. I do not have many gay acquaintances, but they are all a lot more concerned about appearing masculine than I am.

People who drive social change towards demasculinization of boys are, ultimately, feminists or other female control-freaks. Because masculinity is something they neither have nor can control. And it drives them batshit insane. They want all the power for themselves and they are eager to slander and damage either physically or psychologically anyone who stands in their way. And it were heterosexual males who implicitly game women the right to be moral judges and critics of male behavior.

Also no one can really be indoctrinated into being gay. That’s just crazy talk. No matter how acceptable one finds other people’s sexuality, it will not change their desires. They might suppress it if said desired are ostracized by the society or punishable by law, but it is not the same as suddenly becoming straight or gay. Seriously, with the following exception of classical cases of bisexuality, there are no examples of such miraculous transformations.

I believe that same-sex marriage should be as legal as heterosexual marriage, because I abhor the idea of government giving advantages to a single class of people over others and thus exercising power over their free will. I do not want married people to enjoy exclusive rights and privileges based on the fact that they are married. On the other hand, I believe that in contemporary society the institution of marriage is fucked up beyond repair anyways.

P.S. On the off chance you wonder what the fuck I am even doing on this site, well, Google thought I might be interested. And since I spoke my mind on Mary Sue (posts promptly deleted by the moderator, of course), why the hell shouldn’t I do the same here.

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Single mom I know says all the kids she encounters are bisexual already. Everyone is bi-curious, or tri-sexual (as in, they’ll try anything).They are deliberately confusing children, messing up their minds early on for this agenda.
Soon to bring forth a generation of effeminate male consumers and bossy, butchy women with a huge wang everywhere but between their legs – eh who am I kidding, we got that going on right now

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Living in Toronto, fag pride parade, and assfuck hole, C.N. tower up your ass, enema, you have no idea the non-quality of the boy-man wannabe Mangina Fags here… I CANT FIND MEN MY AGE WHO WANT TO BE FUCKING MEN. Men are starting to ‘turn’ queer because the women are 99% not worth it. Well fuck damn hell. It seems the shadow of evil has already covered this cesspool of inhuman, abominate and unnatural, slime bog of filth that is THE MULTICULTURAL FAG PARADISE!!!!! MY generation males = ALL FUCKING BOYS. I don’t wanna move because I grew up here… but shit !!!! I might just leave, before some gaylord gang comes up from my behind.

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You have a huge problem.
You can still run for your life I guess.

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“You have a huge problem”

“you can still run for your life i guess”

Thanks! But i don’t give a shit about ur worthlessly shallow words.

U have actually said absolutely nothing!

NICE TRY! Asshole

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Yes mom

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If I was ur mom then u wouldn’t need me to put u in line…. I woulda done that 20 years ago! hah