Due to living abroad for over a decade, I’ve been to dentists in half a dozen countries. From my cumulative worldwide experience, I can proclaim that my worst dealings with dentists have occurred in the United States. American dentists are overly aggressive with treatment and have practices that I believe are more likely to harm your long-term health.

I had a serious problem with cavities until adulthood, which I attribute to a combination of bad teeth genes and high sugar intake. Even as a young adult, I would dread going to the dentist because I would have a “small” cavity every other visit, often multiple small cavities. The response was always to drill—the sooner the better.

I remember one visit when a dentist found seven small cavities at once, including a couple of “microcavities.” I think he needed a microscope to see them. I had no teeth pain or discomfort from these cavities, yet he wanted to drill and fill them all over the course of two visits. Foolishly, I consented.

The dentist used a different kind of drill that I hadn’t experienced before—my entire head felt like it was vibrating. A week later, I developed a massive migraine that would randomly come and go. Not connecting the migraine to my dental treatment, I thought I had a brain tumor and would soon die. The migraine eventually went away but it had caused me a lot of anxiety. I later read numerous reports online from other patients that had also experienced headaches after receiving dental work.

Before leaving for Europe in 2010, I received recommendations from two American dentists to crown my back teeth. If I didn’t do so, I was told, the teeth may suddenly go bad and require “emergency” treatment. By this point, the only emergency I had with my teeth was the migraine caused by aggressive treatment, so I passed on the recommendation.

I moved to Europe and noticed that their dentists were different: they never X-rayed my mouth… not in the eight years I lived on the continent. A couple of times I asked why and they’d say, “We don’t do X-rays unless something is wrong because it exposes you to radiation.” Let’s compare that to America, where they insist on a yearly X-ray. Some want to X-ray you every six months!

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Let’s put a yearly X-ray through the smell test. If you live to the age of 85, that means it’s recommended protocol in America for you to receive approximately 70 X-rays within the small confines of your mouth (starting from when you’re an adolescent). How does that seem even remotely sensible? And don’t give me the bologna that it’s a “tiny amount of radiation.” If it’s going through your flesh to reveal a picture of your bone, it’s too much radiation. If you have to wear a ten-pound lead apron, and the dental assistant has to leave the room when the X-ray is taken, it’s too much radiation.

But wait, there’s more. Not satisfied at X-raying your mouth once a year, American dentists have recently started pushing the “panorama X-ray” of the entire lower half of your skull that requires an even higher dose of radiation. The reason as told to me? “To make sure everything is okay and you don’t have any tumors.” So they use the fear of cancer to convince you to get more X-rays which can cause tumors! And of course this X-ray is very expensive (around $250). It’s another income stream for them. By the time you reach the end of your long life (made less likely by their X-rays), an American dentist will hit you with up to 100 X-rays. How is this at all justifiable?

The second thing I noticed about European dentists is they’re not eager to drill healthy teeth. Whenever I had a small cavity, they’d say, “Let’s watch it, but you don’t have to do anything right now.” American dentists, on the other hand, sternly recommend immediate action. Drill, baby, drill! That healthy segment of tooth around the cavity must go (to help set the filling). And they use scare tactics to get you to agree, by saying that it could go “deeper” and cause “bigger problems” down the line, maybe even requiring a root canal, a controversial procedure.

Perhaps you’re wondering, “How did the European dentists treat you without X-rays?” With the eyes that God gave them! They would do all their treatment with eye vision only. That’s not enough, you may say. Well, in the near-decade I lived in Europe, I have not had one major tooth problem. I actually came to enjoy going to the dentist, because it would leave my teeth squeaky clean, and by squeaky clean I mean totally eradicating my mouth’s natural microbiome. And what about those crowns I needed in my back teeth, that would cause an “emergency” upon failure? Ten years later and they’re fine! Let’s hope for another ten years!

Last year, I moved back to the United States and made an appointment with an American dental office. I arrived to my appointment and immediately they wanted to give me multiple X-rays, both panoramic and bite-wing. I said, “I rather not. You can just use your eyes to see if there’s a problem.”

“We need to take X-rays so we can see what’s going on,” the dental associate said. “It’s standard policy.”

“But I don’t want X-rays. I don’t want the radiation.”

“It’s also a liability issue. If you have a condition, and we don’t diagnose it, you could sue us. There may be something wrong that we can’t see.” Again with the fear tactic, but what does their fear of getting sued have to do with my health? It was clear to me that the X-ray policy is driven more by money than matters of health.

I said, “I waive all liability for you. I just want you to scrape the plaque. I don’t have any problems.”

“We can’t treat new patients without an X-ray. If you have a previous X-ray from another dentist, we can accept that.”

I didn’t want the X-ray, but now I’m thinking that I’ll have to go through this silly charade anywhere I go. Well, I haven’t had an X-ray in a decade—maybe this X-ray won’t give me cancer after all. I relented, more out of laziness to make another appointment with a different dentist. Besides, this dentist got great reviews online.

I got zapped with the X-rays and then the dentist came to do his work. I must say he was quite professional. He made sure I was comfortable and the background office music was soothing.

“Everything looks good,” he said. “Only one issue is you have a cracked filling that I recommend you repair.”

“Would you have to drill healthy teeth to repair it?” I asked.

“Yes.”

“Then I rather not.”

“It’s better for the strength of the tooth. I recommend you do that.” Drill, baby, drill! My first visit back and they’re already coming at me with the X-ray and the drill!

“Maybe next month,” I said, politely. The next month came and, of course, I did not make the appointment.

I went back to him for a cleaning about eight months later and told him with a smile that the chipped filling is holding up just fine. He tried to X-ray me again but I declined. After the cleaning, I stated that I didn’t want any more X-rays unless I was experiencing a problem. He told me that he could no longer treat me, and stated that he doubts any other dentist would treat me either. This is the first time in my life that I’ve been refused medical care.

I have better dealings with car mechanics than dentists. An honest mechanic will tell you to keep driving a car if the engine is making a little noise, but a dishonest one may insist on a complete rebuild. American dentists never have a wait-and-see attitude, and use just about any pretense to whirl up the drill. The cynical part of me wants to believe it’s a money grab, since dentists don’t exactly drive beat-up Honda Civics to work, but if you account for the years of improper schooling that all of them must go through, it will be hard to find a dentist under the age of 50 who will pass on any excuse to operate on your mouth.

It looks like I will have to find a dental assistant and pay him for underground treatment in a basement somewhere, all so I don’t get zapped by X-rays. Or maybe I’ll just plan a yearly European vacation and get treatment done that is much more sensible, without worrying about any long-term side effects. I don’t look forward to traveling in a post-coronavirus world, but if it means I don’t have to visit an American dentist, it just may be worth it.

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I had a friend who married someone in the dental profession. He had an issue with an overbite. His wife convinced him to undergo an absolute insane procedure because of a concern that his front teeth would break down overtime. So, he got braces for two years, had his jaw surgically broken, then had it reset, then had braces for another two years. Haven't spoken to him in a while, so I don't know how the procedure went, but man, if you don't fight back against dentists, they will never stop mutilating you.

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Good stuff. I got a filling many years ago on a molar. 1 year later the tooth cracked because of the filling. Then they wanted to crown the damn thing. Instead I opted for a filling and things have been fine since. They still want to sell me on the crown. Nope.

Don't even get me started on the Flouride scam.

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Well said, Roosh. I also went a long time between dental visits and when I finally did go the demands that I do a panoramic scan made me upset. The 50-something catlady operating the machine was rough with my neck so finally I nope'd out of the scan.

Don't even get me started on the Flouride scam.

It's terrible. I think they use it to detect "conspiracy theorists" by gauging your reception to fluoridation.

I hear that dentistry is cheap in Mexico but I don't know about the quality.

Another thing to think about it that metal in your body is said to pick up EMF radiation and re-emit it, basically acting as an amplifier for any exposure. If you have metal fillings your brain gets more zapping.

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I have never drunk soda my entire life. I religiously floss (with scrubbing action), brush my teeth with a "dentist approved" technical toothbrush multiple times per day, and use cavity-preventing fluoride mouthwash every night.

Last time I went to the dentist, he told me I had a small cavity that was just past the point of "wait and see" (and instructed me that I need to start flossing and should stop drinking soda. See above lol!). The unwarranted condescension notwithstanding, I consented to having it filled, even though it wasn't causing me any pain or discomfort at all.

Ever since having that tooth filled, I have had frequent pain in that tooth. I have had to start using Sensodyne toothpaste as a salve. I have not been to the dentist since (this was years ago). I have been thinking of scheduling a cleaning, but I am paranoid of hearing what cavities I have. Now the X-ray thing is added to that paranoia!

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I am an American expat and dentists outside the US have only ever required me to have an initial X-ray for new patients. The US is the only place where I have been requested to have a regular update X-ray.

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I used to always decline the dental xray, but Im not surprised it has become a requirement. I always found it an odd way of examining teeth. After my last dentist died and the new guy doubled the rates and cut down on the cleaning time, I began looking elsewhere.

My advice is to either get dental cleanings done abroad when traveling, or look into your local dental school. I am a patient at my dental school, and while they do require an initial one time x ray (after all they are teaching the students, who will one day be pushing x rays on their patients all the time, so they at least need to be able to read the x-ray films) they do not ever ask again. The main benefit is you will get excellent cleaning by someone who is methodically taking their time and the cost is very low. Plus you are not directly supporting the for-profit health care system which I have a big problem with.

The health system in the US is first and foremost a sickness management system which tries to treat symptoms. I think the worst thing about the system is its "fee for service" model which means the more services one performs (drilling teeth, taking x rays, doing pap smears, colon screenings, blood tests, flu shots, covid tests) the more money someone makes. This isn't a critique of the doctors as much as the institution itself, which has been corrupted like so many others in our nation. You get what you pay for, and if you pay by the service, you will get a lot of services.

Why would you reward a health worker that way? Most other countries do not.

I had a friend who was in school to become a doctor. What he absolutely loved more than anything was working as an emergency medic in an ambulance. But working the emergency room in the hospital, doing the same work he was doing in the ambulance, paid about 6 times as much money. As he earned his credentials, he started phasing out the ambulance work because while it was his passion, he couldn't afford to make that his career. I believe he earned around $12 an hour. For saving people's lives. And he was paid this flat (low, but flat) salary when the stipulation that "during this shift, you will save each life that you can." That flat fee or salary is the opposite of the fee for service pay model, and it is how we hire life saving medics throughout the country.

I've had doctors try to push me into an expensive and life-altering surgery that I somehow had the mental clarity and strength to decline, but I've gotten to the point where I often cannot trust medical advice from a doctor because he has a financial conflict of interest. So I do medical tourism abroad or go to the dental school.

Dentists are not immune to this conflict. If a dentist charges $60 for an x-ray and sees 16 patients a day (one every half hour), he can bill an extra $4,800 a week just by requiring them all to get x-rays. That's $250k a year. And the dental industry tells them it's a safe procedure, so they can tell you it's harmless.

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Curious if Activated Charcoal is a good option to brush your teeth or it destroys enamel?

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Interesting topic. I know of someone that works at a dental office as a hygienist and if they can push their office's revenue over $200,000 per month they get additional pay/bonuses. So not only is the dentist incentivized to push procedures but the hygienists and dental assistants too.

I can imagine about half way to 2/3 through the month they are pushing hard procedures that are borderline or not even needed to reach the magical $200k number.

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I had to remove my own braces with wire snips, they just wouldn't stop milking my parents for years!

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Woah. And you dissolved the glue (?) they use to attach the clamps to your teeth?

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Been brushing my teeth with baking soda for the last two years and haven’t had any dental problems to speak of.

Funnily enough, when I was using (((fluoride))) toothpaste I was experiencing all sorts of issues, and was talked into a root canal by my overzealous dentist. I think I have a filling now but I’m honestly not too sure what they did under the hood.

Suffice to say, after reading Roosh’s report, I’ll be skipping my annual dentist visit in the states. Only when an issue arises will I seek their council, and even so, I’ll be wary of their “fee for service” sham pushing model. Sounds like Europe is better for this type of thing.

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This is creepy. I just had a a set of bitewing x-rays taken the other week and now I keep seeing articles like this. I then recall all the orthodontic x-rays I had as a young child on top of yearly dental x-rays. Wouldn't be surprised if I had a meningioma or two growing after all this.

At the latest appointment I even refused the x-rays twice. "There's no safe dose of radiation," I said, but the blonde girl with the tattoo behind her ear doing my routine cleaning said "Oh, totally, I get it! Just let me ask someone about it." So she brings me this fat mexican broad who said "It's only a little radiation, you get more from your cell phone or standing in from of the microwave."
When I responded that I don't use a cell phone and that phones and microwaves don't emit ionizing radiation the brilliant response was: "...it's just a little bit of radiation, it'll tell us if there's anything wrong." It was then that I realized I was talking to an idiot. Yet, because I didn't want to fight with strangers and seem "unreasonable" I pathetically said fine and got the x-rays, which apparently revealed a small cavity despite me never feeling anything. So, I had to go back and pay for a filling despite having less than a thousand dollars to my name. I swear, you could convince me to have both of my feet amputated if you made me feel like I was being unreasonable.

America's reckless "healthcare" culture and its various forms of unnecessary mutilation absolutely disgusts me and I hate that my boomer parents just assumed that everybody shilling these services knew what they were talking about and actually had your best interests in mind. The braces, the wisdom teeth removal, the years of SSRIs, the vaccinations, after it all it's clear my well-being has been consistently raped by people that were supposedly there to help me. When I look back into my memories, I clearly recall the gradual decline of my quality of life starting with that big series of "booster" shots I had when I was four or five. After that I started being really reserved and anxious and it never went away so they just threw Zoloft at a ten year old and the rest is history. Scarcely a day goes by without me thinking about the man I could've been had other people not been sabotaging my mental and physical health.

I've already long divorced myself from Establishment media and social dogmas, but now I'm entirely fed up with doctors and dentists. I literally do not care what they say anymore. I bought my own plaque scraper. I can order blood tests on the internet and interpret the results myself. I'll continue to sift through the mountains of available research and come to my own conclusions. I wish it didn't have to be like this, but every interaction I have keeps proving to me that members of the professional class are just flawed deluded people like everybody else, who are often not even very good at their jobs. That's not to say I'm a genius or anything, but if I'm going to be messed up, it's going to be my fault and only after an earnest attempt at health, not because some apathetic health bureacrat is following a protocol.

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There are remineralization powders I've bought and used inconsistently. Not sure how reliable any of that is.

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Weston Price, I believe, found that stone age tribes as long as they had proper nutrition, had healthy teeth. In short, butter, ghee (grass fed in both cases) and fish oil - the key to so much core health issues!

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but now I'm entirely fed up with doctors and dentists.

My guiding principles are - doctors are for bone setting and acute emergencies - Western medicine is very good at healing trauma - diseases of lifestyle, nutrition and mindset, not so much. Most of our ills are autoimmune/inflammation based. That's not tackled with big pharma or Frankenfoods, but also the global-homo lifestyle: Sedentary consumption of media, drugs, alcohol ( i believe alcohol is ok in traditional social situations -for example wine at Sardinia family dinners but not for 'entertainment') , nihilism and pleasure seeking.

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Weston Price, I believe, found that stone age tribes as long as they had proper nutrition, had healthy teeth. In short, butter, ghee (grass fed in both cases) and fish oil - the key to so much core health issues!

I would not listen to WAPFers about the fish oil. They're still shilling fermented cod liver oil despite several of their members dropping dead from it.

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I would not listen to WAPFers about the fish oil. They're still shilling fermented cod liver oil despite several of their members dropping dead from it.

I don't know about fermented but what evidence do you have that they 'dropped dead' from it? Cod -fish-krill oil is one of the single most important supplements you can take and has been so in Europe for centuries. Funny the guy you link to is a raw milk advocate.. something mainstream health officials object to on the same grounds.

There are plenty of other advocates - that : healthy diet=healthy immune=healthy teeth

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This is creepy. I just had a a set of bitewing x-rays taken the other week and now I keep seeing articles like this. I then recall all the orthodontic x-rays I had as a young child on top of yearly dental x-rays. Wouldn't be surprised if I had a meningioma or two growing after all this.

At the latest appointment I even refused the x-rays twice. "There's no safe dose of radiation," I said, but the blonde girl with the tattoo behind her ear doing my routine cleaning said "Oh, totally, I get it! Just let me ask someone about it." So she brings me this fat mexican broad who said "It's only a little radiation, you get more from your cell phone or standing in from of the microwave."
When I responded that I don't use a cell phone and that phones and microwaves don't emit ionizing radiation the brilliant response was: "...it's just a little bit of radiation, it'll tell us if there's anything wrong." It was then that I realized I was talking to an idiot. Yet, because I didn't want to fight with strangers and seem "unreasonable" I pathetically said fine and got the x-rays, which apparently revealed a small cavity despite me never feeling anything. So, I had to go back and pay for a filling despite having less than a thousand dollars to my name. I swear, you could convince me to have both of my feet amputated if you made me feel like I was being unreasonable.

America's reckless "healthcare" culture and its various forms of unnecessary mutilation absolutely disgusts me and I hate that my boomer parents just assumed that everybody shilling these services knew what they were talking about and actually had your best interests in mind. The braces, the wisdom teeth removal, the years of SSRIs, the vaccinations, after it all it's clear my well-being has been consistently raped by people that were supposedly there to help me. When I look back into my memories, I clearly recall the gradual decline of my quality of life starting with that big series of "booster" shots I had when I was four or five. After that I started being really reserved and anxious and it never went away so they just threw Zoloft at a ten year old and the rest is history. Scarcely a day goes by without me thinking about the man I could've been had other people not been sabotaging my mental and physical health.

I've already long divorced myself from Establishment media and social dogmas, but now I'm entirely fed up with doctors and dentists. I literally do not care what they say anymore. I bought my own plaque scraper. I can order blood tests on the internet and interpret the results myself. I'll continue to sift through the mountains of available research and come to my own conclusions. I wish it didn't have to be like this, but every interaction I have keeps proving to me that members of the professional class are just flawed deluded people like everybody else, who are often not even very good at their jobs. That's not to say I'm a genius or anything, but if I'm going to be messed up, it's going to be my fault and only after an earnest attempt at health, not because some apathetic health bureacrat is following a protocol.

Great post. I often wonder how many of my problems are due entirely because of "modern medicine" before I even had a chance to consent: fertility drugs given to my mom when she pregnant, c-section when I was born, circumcision when I was born, vaccines before I could speak or walk. Then you add all the "treatments" I was provided as a child: braces, dental surgeries, antibiotics, fluoride treatments, x-rays. Then you add all the "treatments" when I was young adult but still bought into globo-homo: anti-anxiety medications, anti-depressants, wisdom teeth removal.

I sometimes become angry thinking about all the unnecessary mutilation done to me over the years by the medical gulag.

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I haven't been to a dentist since I had my wisdom teeth extracted over 20 years ago. I brush, floss, use mouthwash and my teeth are shiny white with no problems. Everyone I know who goes to the dentist always is told they need work done.

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