Why Is Working For A Corporation So Awful?

Except for start-ups in Silicon Valley that let you use scooters indoors, it has come to be common wisdom that corporations are horrible places to work. It shouldn’t be like this. A regular salary with benefits in an environment that puts you in constant touch with other humans shouldn’t cause misery, but in reality corporate work is one of the most soul-destroying activities you can do. Why?

1. It makes you helpless. The knowledge that you can be laid off, transferred, or snubbed at any time makes you feel like you have no say in your destiny. You’re at the mercy of the invisible bureaucracy, of layers of people who have control over your livelihood and the final say on your future.

2. It makes you fake. When a stripper goes to work, and has to give lap dances to fat men for money, she puts on a smile and pretends that she’s enjoying it. You do the same when you have to work in a corporation. You put on a fake smile and adopt a shielding personality to deal with people you would never choose to deal with in your spare time. This levies a significant blow to your self-identity.

3. You have to deal with Human Resources. Promiscuous women who graduated with a bogus degree now got you by the balls. Assuming you get through their dating interview process, you still have to comply with their rules and regulations, and you must be cheerful when they pimp slap you for stepping out of line or suffer one of their 90-day probations where you have to supplicate to their whims. You have to be alpha with your work but beta and subservient to the HR gals and all your other insufferable coworkers. Otherwise you’ll be written up and punished like you were in elementary school.

4. It makes you do things you hate. Your day-to-day tasks involve doing what makes the corporation money, not what you want to do with your life. The odds that a corporate position perfectly matches your passions are just about zero. Enjoy all the meetings, the Kaizen training, the diversity seminar, and the writing of TPS reports.

5. You receive low pay. You’ll never make as much as you bring in. Once Uncle Sam takes his cut, and you account for commuting,  you’ll always be selling yourself short. When your yearly review comes, you have to beg like a dog for a 4% raise that barely keeps up with inflation by telling your master all the wonderful things you did in the past year that made the company money. It’s humiliating.

The answer to this sad existence is to start your own business. It’s a tough challenge that will take time until you start bringing in income, but you’ll work on your own terms, control your destiny, be able to choose your customers, and not have to work with ditzy women who have power over you. Most importantly, you’ll be able to follow your passion. I wouldn’t have it any other way.

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While the overall message is true for “average” jobs starting in a competitive field has significant advantages.

Ex: finance/management consulting/law

You get killed for a couple of years but you learn what hard work really is. Then your debt is gone. Then you realize… If I put this much effort into a business….

If you’re working 9-5 getting paid nothing, move on.

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What a load of tosh. Unless you are a revenue generator i.e analyst, PM etc. you don’t make much in finance. And revenue generators are just 1% of the entire industry, You have averagely intelligent people trying to prance around acting important when they know, they are dispensable, disposable and don’;t matter AT ALL. Maybe you are some hot shot revenue generator on Wall Street. Law is a joke and with Management Consulting you can only go so far and your pay starts to stagnate.

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Worked for several small, mid, and large corporations in Silicon Valley until about the year 2000 – sucked the life out of me to say the least. That indoor scooter may be nice but you still have to put up with the hypocrisies and indignities of corporate culture. I frankly hated every single day of it – couldn’t wait to get out and do my own thing.

As a side note – the food culture they try to force upon everyone is one of the other characteristics of cubicle life I absolutely despised. Almost every single fucking day they schlepped in pizza, cakes, cookies, everything but a friggin’ vegetable. That was supposed to be one of the selling point when they hired you – all that free food. In reality they just didn’t want you to leave the office – it’s cheaper for them to have you snarf up cheap empty calories (that will make you fat) in front of your screen while you are working.

And don’t get me started on those sanctimonious conceited bitches who are running HR – unless you’ve experienced it it’s hard to believe they let those cows roam free. Suffice to say I got canned several times for speaking my mind.

Fast forward a decade – now I run my own online business and happily live in Spain – so much more content here and life is cheaper! Not on the worst day would I ever go back to working for corporate America – it’s slow death.

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spot on about HR…another Toxic layer that is a complete waste of revenue, yet they are always getting training and are given the best office space… they are rewarded for producing nothing, always at lunch or in “Important meetings” they think they are upper management, hence their arrogant strutting
And these women decide if your a “good fit” for the bullshit culture they benefit from….WTF
The only way to get past these insufferable stone walls is to mirror their vanity, tell them they are wonderful and beautiful , what a waste of Human existence……..Vulture Culture

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Starting a business is not realistic for most people. Corporate life is soul-crushing because our generation has unrealistic expectations.

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I get it. Expect to be miserable and then there won’t be a problem.

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Which “unrealistic expectations” are you speaking about ?

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I would start my own business, but my country will punish me for even trying. I’m not kidding. As soon as I have founded a business, I have to make monthly payments to the government for “pension and health contributions”, even if my profit is 0 – and even if my REVENUE is 0! Seeing how most businesses aren’t earning much during their starting phases, you can see what a noose around an entrepreneur’s neck it is.

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Let me guess: Germany?

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This is mostly applicable to being Joe Average at Megacorp. If you have leverage by way of high demand skills, or are at a small private company, it’s really not necessarily like this.

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Even working in an average soul crushing job you’ve described, wouldn’t living frugally, learning how to politic and setting up side investments let people leave this job and get another one that isn’t as well paid but more fulfilling within a decade or so?

My take is that people fill the void of these jobs by blowing their money on distractions, then once they realize they’ve been squandered their potential wealth it’s already too late. They’ve been laid off or they’re so close to their pension that they “can’t possibly leave now.”

If it’s possible, why not game the system? A common trope in the manosphere is how the average population don’t want to work hard. They feel entitled. They also have probably never sat down to plan out where their life is heading and consistently review it monthly.

Surely, it could be done with the correct mindset. It would just take work.

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Pension? Hahahaha

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Yeah this is true for average jobs, but when you graduate from somewhere like Oxford you can pick and choose from most any competitive jobs in a field which you’re passionate about.

It’s not possible for most of the people who read your blog cause let’s face it they went to shit universities, but for the few that actually worked hard in their youth to graduate from somewhere really prestigious the concept of working a meaningless corporate job does not exist (as long as you have your wits about you).

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just because you worked hard doesn’t mean you’ll get into Oxford…plenty of valedictorians who were captains of their sports teams and whatever else is necessary now to be “competitive” college applicants get into those top rated schools. Add on top of that the obstacles of funding yourself for the tuition levels of those top notch schools. It’s easy for rich kids who can “buy” their way into top notch schools to be so out of touch with the everyday person who actually probably worked harder, but end up with less opportunities. This is also why many middle managers are to blame for the deterioration of the corporate structure- there’s not sense of empathy or real talent in managing people.

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well, I know plenty of people working for investment banks as traders, risk analysts and software developers, and they certainly didn’t “buy” their way to prestigious schools.

I went to a British university, so I know in the first hand that there is no way anyone can buy their way into Oxford/Cambridge, unlike the Ivy League universities in the U.S. where it accepts alumni donation as a way in for their kids to get into them…

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don’t get into those schools*

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Let me correct you’re arrogant baloney. You didn’t mean “work hard in their youth”, you meant “had rich parents with connections”

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The rich are working hard in the U.S. to commoditize everything so even their dumb children have all the doors thrown open ahead of them…

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Like OldHornDog, I did my tour of duty in Silicon Valley. It’s exactly how they describe it. There’s a veneer of “we’re so cool” with free food, casual dress, riding your scooter in the hallway and bringing your dog to work. But that crap doesn’t really matter, and after that it’s no different from working for some insurance company in the midwest.

The worst part was after I became a manager. California state law requires all managers to receive eight hours of “sexual harassment training” every two years. My God, I hated that. Every time it came up I didn’t go when I was supposed to, and didn’t do it until my manager or HR called me out on it. My God, I’d rather to get a root canal.

Almost exactly one year ago I left the United States. I do consulting work for guys I built relationships with while I was in Silicon Valley. I am presently living in Russia. I get up when I want, I take days off when I want, I say what I want. I just get my work done and it’s all good. Racking up “face time” is no longer of any relevance.

I should have done it sooner. If you ain’t the lead dog, the view never changes.

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Right on.

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A lot of people aren’t creative, they get a job in which they trade time for money as a result. This is so common that even creative people have followed suit by influence or social conditioning.

Creative people need to break the rules, otherwise they end up in the corporate world where they will suffer the most as they’re aren’t wired for that type of work.

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HCE,

Who says you have to start a business inside the US? Look what greenlander did.

Become an economic refugee. Go elsewhere where hard work is rewarded. You’ll have to move outside your comfort zone, but it’ll be worth it.

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I started out working class and attended a regional state university, earning excellent grades. I thought this was my best option to the middle class. Where did I get such an idea? After trying to shop such a degree around major and minor metros, I was only able to land very low level jobs. I am now stuck back in my home town where fat moms with no degree period get the office jobs with benefits. My lifestyle is minimal and I could live like a king on such a job, but that is a no go. I am stuck competing for jobs I worked straight out of high school, but having to disguise that I have degrees and a brain in order to fit in at this level too. At the moment, I am implementing the Captain Capitalism plan, but coming old age and poverty worry me. When the time comes, I may have to work up the courage to off the self, while these fat moms such public tax coin for benefits & salary in their unneeded jobs. I hope Rome burns.

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spot on, man. I would not have any other ways too. My business went well for 3 years and now it’s sucking cock, really bad. But I still could never revert to work for someone else. The downside is that you really are on your own. If it works, it’s great, if it doesn’t, you are done for

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Just reading the humorous and sad commentaries here. Just reading these makes me uncomfortable, yet I worked for corporate shops and had my own business as well where I had to contend with employees who would steal or threaten to sue you. Have a graduate degree from a top-rated school and tried for years to obtain a govt job. Pre-screening with tests and essays took two to three hours to finish. Then the interview was with a panel of three interviewers who gave rapid fire questions one after another. I was never politically correct I guess, and I retired from it all finally. Obviously, I never figured it all out.

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i worked for Glaxo Smith Kline for a year. easily the worst working year of my life. clocked in every morning to a gated compounded that felt like prison.. complete with a staff cafeteria to ensure you didnt leave the area for a good 9 hours. horrible backstabbing culture, smiling as you carry out mind numbing tasks locked in rooms with soul dead people, some of whom had worked in that exact place for 30 years. horrible..

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Oh my god that sounds like my current company. They are everything I don’t want to be.

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ah ah Roosh I think you’ll like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUq_T_Bhau8

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this is not true at all. Maybe if you suck and have no unique skills and are just jow aerage cog. You do have the choice to pick something you love, be very talented and skilled at, be in high demand as well as build and be valued by a company – its not like your forced to do all of this shit. I agree lowe and mid level people with universal skills just serve a purpose of plug and play but get serious dude – if you are smart and telented the company will want you and make things awesome for you!

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Highborn smoke blower comment.

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Bobby Brown (Frank Zappa)

Oh God I am the american dream
I do not think Im too extreme
An Im a handsome sonofabitch
Im gonna get a good job n be real rich

(get a good
Get a good
Get a good
Get a good job)

Womens liberation
Came creepin across the nation
I tell you people I was not ready
When I fucked this dyke by the name of freddie
She made a little speech then,
Aw, she tried to make me say when
She had my balls in a vice, but she left the dick
I guess it’s still hooked on, but now it shoots too quick

Oh God I am the american dream
But now I smell like vaseline
An Im a miserable sonofabitch
Am I a boy or a lady…i don’t know which

ah ah Roosh this is THE perfect song about all you dislike

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Corporations and the office environment in general are quite toxic for men. It requires you to become a pathetic beta male just to survive in that politically correct atmosphere.

Now that college degrees have become basically worthless, best choice is for men to learn some trade like electrician, plumbing, repairman, etc. The benefits are, you will always be in need, since people will always need repairmans, plumbers, electricians, etc, and generally you’d be working around other men. And you’d probably end up making just as much money as you would working an office job, anyway.

So yea, let the stupid bitches waste their life getting their dumbass psychology, sociology, and feminist degrees, because in the end, they will end up unemployed, and 50,000 dollars or more in debt. Best if we men avoid college since it is a useless waste of time anyway, and go get some real world training and knowledge which we can use in real world and useful professions. Get a MAN’s job, and you won’t have to deal with all this feminist/PC bullshit.

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Roosh,

First, disclosure: I am a smartass. And I’m currently drunk, because it is Friday.

Second, what you wrote about the corporation and strippers is sublime. I know that because I once worked for the corporation, and quit, and have got to know a few strippers in my time. And yes the parallel is perfect.

Third, you Roosh want to be LOVED like every man does. Yes we all watch tail but what we all want is the LOVE of a beautiful woman. We don’t just want to fuck, we want to be loved and to love. I think you should address this in your blogs, or reply to me and tell me I’m right. Because deep down Roosh I know you cry at night, you want tits and vagina because you want to be close to someone. This Bang shit isn’t really you. You want wife and kids in the home that you made, quit crying into your drink and your whore and tell me yes man you are right.

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PS. After reading all of the comments here, I’d just like to add:

To all of you guys trying to justify working in a corporate/office type of environment, please excuse most of us. Most of us never got the chance to go some high profile university like Yale or Princeton or Harvard. Also please excuse most of us, since most of us are just “halfwits” since we can’t function properly in such an artificial atmosphere.

Frankly, I found the arrogance and elitist tone of a couple of the commenters here to be pretty disgusting.

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I completely agree…what is sad is that they are most like the middle managers who create the environment of hell in corporate America. Thanks to their “lucrative University degrees” that their parents paid for them to get- I find that many managers who came from such an elitist background are so out of touch with the average employee they manage and this is a huge problem with management in Corporate America now.

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I might be stepping on some toes with this, but the massive influx of women in higher education and the workforce has amounted to nothing but a huge sink of productivity and creativity. In these days, it seems normal to throw away the babies, but retain the bathwater. Think of grade school, college, graduate school, corporate life.

Some here ask ‘why not game the system’? It’s not worth the effort. For us men, there are only three options for the future: 1. go your own way, 2. try to unite with similar-minded people and give the system the finger, and 3. be a corporate ‘galley slave’ completely subjugated by legions of irrational HR women.

“Now listen to me, all of you. You are all condemned men. We keep you alive to serve this ship. So row well, and live.” – Quintus Arrius, Ben Hur (1959)

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At #18, ERM.

I think you’ll need to go do your Magnolia fantasy of “psychologically dismantling a PUA” crap somewhere else.

Yea, we men want love and a good woman. Good women no longer exist in America and the Western world, UK, Canada, Australia. If you’re a man and looking for a long term relationship with a woman, get a woman from East Europe, Russia, South America, Asia, India, or whatever. Anywhere EXCEPT the USA, Canada, UK, and Australia.

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Am I the only one that works somewhere with all male HR? haven’t seen any problems, so might be something to look for in a corporate overlord
course this is in wood products, so there is a masculine bent to the whole organization

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Welcome to the new new new new new world order, nWo 4 life, caused it’s just TOO DAMN SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juqm94sUV_E

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More than one way to skin a cat my dude, Not everyone has the innate ability to venture out and become an entrepreneur or start their own business. Considering we’re the “instant” generation I bet you 99% of the cheerleaders don’t have the gusto to put in the work to start and run a successful business.

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The worst part of the corporations I’ve worked for is that they value obedience over productivity; you aren’t even able to get the satisfaction of doing a good job, of having made a difference in the world at the end of the day.

Working at a fast food restaurant sucks, but at least you’re giving people something they want (I worked at subway as a kid, it’s fairly healthy); at the corporation you get into major trouble for pointing out that the hoops you’re jumping through are utterly pointless, and a decently-crafted program could replace everybody on the floor.

Sometimes I wonder if we’ve hit post-scarcity and the corporations are designated make-work to keep the proles in line.

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This is true for most corp job.

Basically, if your job is revenue generating then you’ll be compensated accordingly, if not then someone else will. However, most jobs are support roles and as a result are viewed as a cost center.

Once people realize this fact, they won’t get “surprised” when they get laid off after 10+ years of loyalty to the company.

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John Rambo

Not really. I live in Eastern Europe and fuck local woman for my hobby. But I’d prefer to be happily married to a beautiful woman, with no fear of being cheated on, and faithful, and a dad. So would you.

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I like my gig working for a multinational. I’ve got two worthless liberal arts degrees from a flagship state school, because that’s what middle class kids from my hometown did after high school. I started off in a corporate environment much like you describe in your list above, used it to build a work history and resume that has allowed me to create my own position with my current employer. Since joining, I’ve never seen HR in the flesh. They screen resumes, but the people who are going to be working with a new hire handle the actual interviews with applicants. My boss is far too busy to micromanage, and I like and am liked by both my coworkers and clients. I’ve worked for and with companies with very different business cultures. The list above paints with too narrow a brush, and much of the fear over losing your job is alleviated by not being a slave to debt, regardless of the type of employment you have.

Roosh, how many corporations did you work for? One, IIRC from reading your blog? There are fulfilling corporate gigs out there, just takes some work to find them. I can’t imagine doing so is considerably harder than starting a successful business from scratch.

The bit about begging for a raise at review time is a tell you don’t really know how the corporate world functions. If you want to make more money, you need to change jobs, or at a minimum, secure an offer and ask your current employer to match it or meet you half way. The lack of loyalty is a double edged sword. You’d better make use of the sharp bit that isn’t pointed your way.

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Humiliating indeed.

There is a rising trend taking place. This trend may put women behind, even if they think they are getting ahead with more and more following the corporate gig way.

So yes, more women are going to university than men. However most of these women are taking useless degrees that will at best result in a basic corporate job. Nobody would argue nothing has lots its value more since the 70s than a university degree (aside from the value of pussy). You can’t just do with one university degree, particularly one in liberal arts.

Meanwhile, don’t discount men. Maybe they are seeing how devalued a degree has become. Going your own way is the answer. The government needs more of that as well. Investment and innovation is what will grow an economy out of the doldrums. Not large corporations hoarding cash.

You don’t need a degree to be an entrepreneur, but you do need to take risks. Women are inherently extremely risk averse. That’s why a university degree and basic corporate job suits them just fine. But this will not improve society or grow the economy.

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I said the government needs more of that entrepreneurial spirit, not that they encourage that.

One other thing. Laws of supply and demand. Too many people with similar education and applying for the same jobs. Nothing wrong with no education and applying for jobs where there are no applicants (plumbing, electrician). Make no doubt about it, men can see value better than women in my experience.

No education + $50,000 / yr > Debt-fuelled education + $50,000 / yr

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If you think working for a corporation is bad, try working for the government—at any level. If you do anything good, something that helps the public or benefits taxpayers, you will be punished, and/or your efforts and ideas attributed to someone else. You will learn to do the least amount possible or face big negative consequences.

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It’s only with easily replaceable individuals that corporations have the upper hand.

If you have exceptional skills you can get the corporations by the balls. They will need you as badly as you need them – possibly more – AND they need to keep you out of the hands of their competition.

Also, you will never build a spaceship or a supersonic aircraft unless you work for either a corporation or a government … & governments are worse.

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Fuck corporations.

They are the true parasites in the United States.

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So funny you mentioned this, Roosh. A friend posted a related article today on Facebook: http://www.ariseindiaforum.org/nurse-reveals-the-top-5-regrets-people-make-on-their-deathbed/

Also the point about HR was right on. I’ve worked for years as a government contractor here in DC. The HR folks (girls and guys) are some of the stupidest people I’ve ever met. Almost every mid-level government person is insanely stupid and lazy. I always found myself asking “How the hell did you get hired?!” Anyway I’m now focusing on getting off the treadmill and getting the hell out of DC (and I’m a DC native. Sad I have to leave it to yuppie interns).

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to all those saying “not everyone can start their own business and be successful”; while you are obviously right about “everyone”, beware of the apex fallacy.

You don’t need to be “successful” in absolute terms, to have a better life working on your own terms than someone elses. Corporate gigs tend to be located in expensive areas. Because they need proximity to lots of potential employees, trading partners, services and possibly customers. And for those making decisions about where to locate, the executives, the cost of living is irrelevant. While non executive employees get stuck with moderate pay in expensive areas.

By setting the “success” bar high enough to be comfortable in Silicon Valley, or Manhattan, or West LA, lots and lots of people who could drop out of the ratrace are artificially holding themselves back. If you start a fairly location independent business, which lots of one-person/few-person businesses are, live in a cheap, nice place. Where the bailed out classes are not around to drive up home prices, taxes, regulatory burdens etc.

Also, when working on your own, what you do compounds over time. You make contacts that broaden the scope of people who will call you when they need help, and pitch you ideas. When you are just a cog, even a “skilled” one, those contacts will be earned by someone higher up.

There are many such effects that conspire to make working for yourself, or with a small group, vastly more beneficial in the long run than simply putting in work for someone else. And, given the cost structure of most corporations, they are not nearly as efficient and fearful competitors as their size may indicate.

So, just live cheap, and you can probably make enough money on your own to get by, until you start making some more. And at least, you won’t be subsidizing some HR department.

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I’ll never forget my first 1 hour in my very first and only corporate job. The HR girls managed to tell me
-This upcoming weekend I’m going to *** with my fiance!
-I’m sorry I’m late! I had to visit my PRO Football Player boyfriend who played a game in Texas this weekend and my plane was late

The other HR woman had fake titties so you know, she was too busy pushing them out to tell stories.

Corporations are evil. You’re right, you have to put on a fake face and can’t be yourself.

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Hahahaha @ Mohammed Chang

(I’m assuming that comment was a well written satire on Indian and Asian conformity)

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You mean Satya Nadella and Sundar Pichai !!??

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I’m getting disturbed by reading the pro-corporation comments above that aren’t jokes.

Ok…At my old corporation there was a group of men and they were amazing. They were the men who make the world turn. And I asked my boss, who was also super smart, “Why don’t these guys take their ideas and do it themselves because all of this work they are doing will belong to the corporation and not them” and my boss was like “They need the consistent income to live”

My boss was right, but that’s the flaw of the corporate structure.

Isaac Newton and those guys were all farmers and they had tons of free time. There’s something to be said for an intelligent, (hopefully non foreign labor hiring) upperclass, landed aristocracy that has free time to start business or think of ideas. We don’t have that anymore in our current ‘corporate’ system.

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This posts explain why John McAfee goes crazy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McAfee

Roosh is the prophet and McAfee the follower. lol haha.

It would be cool a post about McAfee and his adventures outside America, and him discover of real life.

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@ erm, #27

“But I’d prefer to be happily married to a beautiful woman, with no fear of being cheated on, and faithful, and a dad. ”

Your first part is correct. I actually am married to a good girl, an indian girl, who was raised in a village and has no connection or conception with the evils of the modern western world.

There was a very very wise statement I once read from an indian spiritual leader. He said “A man who has never been married before thinks that getting married will make him happy. While a man who is married is thinking “Why didn’t I stay single, I could have stayed free?””

It’s a real catch 22. If you’ve never been married before, you don’t realize how boring and unsatisfying it is. But most men have to get married to understand that reality.

If I had come in contact with the MRA movement just a few months before I had, I probably would have given up on marriage entirely. See, another trap is thinking that foreign women are better than western women. Yes, they are, but even still I would not recommend marriage to ANY kind of woman, foreign or western.

Marriage is fucking misery, any way you look at it. I’m honest enough to admit that. A lot of married guys will never admit that.

I just wish I had waited a couple more years before even thinking about marriage. By that time, I would have realized how pointless it is and probably decided to never marry. So, cheers to all of the men who ARE intelligent enough to never get married, guys like Roosh and so on.

I’m a 28 year old guy, so if there’s any advice I would give to men under the age of 30, it is this:

Do NOT get married. Once you hit age 30 or so, you’ll realize how fruitless the whole endeavour is, and then you will hopefully give up all desire to ever get married. You may THINK that marriage will make you happy, but it won’t. Even marriage to a super submissive humble foreign girl. Otherwise, if you get married and then realize too late that marriage is a trap for men, you’ll end up just like me. Drinking his life away to a bottle of alcohol, trying to speed up his own death.

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Don’t do it Rambo! This time, we get to win.

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@ Rael, #32

“Also, you will never build a spaceship or a supersonic aircraft unless you work for either a corporation or a government … & governments are worse.”

I guess my life is a complete failure since I am not smart enough to know how to build a fucking spaceship.

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Agree which is why having an independent consultant mindset works well for me. Make good coin, save, travel and have fun. Switch jobs for more pay until one can expat and start an online business. Me, I want to fly jets, scuba dive and give tours.

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@greenlander – Hey mate – glad to hear you got your ass out of there. If you ever come to Spain look me up – I’m in Valencia. You’ll love the poon here and if you look half way Russian they’ll eat you up (despite what Roosh says – I’m having fun over here – ahem).

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The answer to this sad existence is to start your own business. It’s a tough challenge that will take time until you start bringing in income, but you’ll work on your own terms, control your destiny, be able to choose your customers, and not have to work with ditzy women who have power over you. Most importantly, you’ll be able to follow your passion. I wouldn’t have it any other way.

I’m 52 and have worked in nine different industries. This post is Marcus. Fucking. Aurelius.

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Good points. I am rolling in the money right now and eventually plan to start my own investment firm. There are some advantages depending where you work. I work in banking and interact with a lot of women. I am a minority as a man. They are forced to dress nice and while there are a lot of hogs, there are also a nice group of 7,8,9’s who are DTF. http://www.rooshv.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/bigsmile.gif

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I have what one would consider a soul-killing job. On the other hand, it can be considered a dream job. I mostly have my own autonomy. I don’t get micromanaged. Big office. Don’t deal with HR at all, even though they are women. Yes my bosses (plural) are women who are in the dark ages with technology. I am in direct contact with 18-40 y/o women customers all day everyday. The average day I may do 2 hours worth of work in an 8 hr shift. It’s really not that bad. Guess where I work.

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Guessing a bank?

You hear the joke that as a single, white, 30-something male you are never the minority.

I took a job here and 90% are women all the way up the chain until you get to the executives. The manages based off feelings and emotions and because of this the company is a fraction of what it could be. I quickly learned that my “go get em” attitude and “improving the system” did nothing but put me in a negative spotlight.

Now I avoid any unnecessary contact with any of them work 2 actual hours in a day and spend the rest of it on blogs and building my business again.

At first I felt bad not being productive on the company’s dime, but fuck them. They handicap the entire company with their lack of actual experience and they gained their positions of leverage by spending more than 1/2 their life working at this company. What secretly they know is they are lucky because they have no marketable skills and to subside this feeling of worthlessness they show their “superiority” making pointless demands that do nothing but retard the ability of their staff to increase profit.

Fuck them. I’ll suck this tit while being paid to build a business as long as I can until I can walk away from these chains and be the professional business alpha I know I am but they are afraid to realize.

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Unfortunately I currently work for a Corporate. However, I am saving furiously & am not too faraway from having enough in the bank to tell them to shove their job up their ass. You know what amazes me about Corporates…..they actually think we give a fuck about their KAIZEN training, their “pro-active” meetings, and all the other corporate propaganda crap they try and mesmerise you with. Roosh is right – it is humiliating, and it will be a special day when I leave the cunt of corporate place that I work.

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Interesting timing on this post for me, I just got snubbed 2 weeks ago, total political bureaucratic b.s. move by the VP. He’s a chump, I’m not, so he eliminated me after tripling his business in 18 months for our biggest profiting product/service. I can’t stand corp America, what a f-ing joke it’s become. Little bitch-boys/women, holding positions of authority over real men. Sad condition.