How essential are women in the labor force? How critical are the job functions they perform when compared to men? I wondered about these questions while the American establishment uses the might of their bullhorns to persuade everyone that having women in higher education and corporate positions is absolutely essential for society. A simple thought experiment, however, can definitively show the opposite: women are not at all serving critical or important job functions at a level above men, and society is better of with them not participating full time in the labor force.

One way to approach this problem is to look at job statistic numbers that quantify how many women work in a particular field while also measuring the quality of labor they contribute. The problem with this method is that it doesn’t clue us in on how essential a woman’s production is. Women can be 20% of the electrical engineering force, for example, but such a number does not explain the contributions they’ve made to engineering and what would happen if that number was decreased or increased, especially when they are working alongside productive men who get the job done regardless of their failures.

I instead propose a simple thought experiment that will offer a clear and instinctual answer to even those who are firmly on the side of “equality” (i.e. the disempowerment of straight men). Imagine that a new law is about to be passed that forbids one particular sex from engaging in any type of employment or labor. Which of the following would lead to the greatest amount of economic harm to the country?

  • Men are forbidden from working, and are forced to tend the home
  • Women are forbidden from working, and are forced to tend the home

If women stopped working, there would be measurable harm to the economy overnight, because they make up a significant part of the service sector, especially in fields related to PR, marketing, education, waitressing, and human resources. The absence of women in most jobs outside of day care and nursing, however, could not only be replaced by a man, but one that is at least comparable to her ability, and not inferior to a significant degree, especially if you gave him the training and time to improve. The less communicative skill that men have to “read body language” and be a “people person” would be balanced out by massive productivity gains from a lack of office gossip, sexual harassment trainings, female sick days related to the menstrual cycle or irritable bowel syndrome, pregnancies, and distracting interoffice affairs.

Any economy that prevents women from working would in my estimation recover in 4-10 years once currently idle men are enticed by a sudden increase in job salaries and benefits along with the opportunity to work in male-only environments where their every statement is not placed under the microscope of the HR gestapo that is overeager to blacklist men for daring to make a politically incorrect statement.

On the other hand if men stopped working, there wouldn’t be enough talented and skilled women to take over their positions, even with dedicated training. You could give it a full generation of time, but it still wouldn’t provide enough women to cover even a minority of the positions lost, especially in STEM fields where strong analytical and logical ability is needed to even begin a rigorous education. The programs that have sprung up in the past two decades to encourage women to study fields they are not good at (science, computer programming) have barely caused their participation to increase, and not at all stopped women from dropping out entirely for reasons that can often be summarized as “YOLO” or “it was boring.”

In the scenario preventing men from work, manual labor jobs in construction could not be filled unless we dose women with testosterone. The safety of communities would decrease as only women became policemen and firemen. We’d have to increase the salaries of garbage men to over half a million dollars per year to entice women to work in them, possibly leading to diseases caused by bad sanitation not seen in centuries. A shortage of specialist surgeons would decrease the life expectancy rate. The all-female media would provide stories and news entirely based on feelings and emotions instead of facts. Any field you pick besides day care, nursing, and education would not be able to recover even 50% from a lack of men not working. Take a minute to try imagining all female farmers, truck drivers, and mechanics. A film depicting this scenario would start off as a comedy before quickly turning into doomsday horror.

No matter what society managed to do to train the all-female workforce, the economy would never recover, and this only concerns the economical effects. In terms of the societal effects, birth rates would certainly plummet or, if women insisted on having the occasional baby, there would be such a critical shortage of labor that basic functions of society wouldn’t be fulfilled. There would be food shortages so severe that two-hour Soviet bread lines would be seen as utopian.

While the door could be open to any female immigrant who was willing to plug the gaps, it’s unlikely they could fulfill even the most basic jobs above working as a bartender, because the issue with female employment is not one of quantity but quality. In spite of our best efforts to encourage women into science by giving them two legs up in the system, they still prefer easy majors that don’t involve any math, and even women who pursue medicine pick the easiest specialty like dermatology because she covets time off more than having to play real doctor by being on-call in the middle of the night when a patient has an emergency.

If men were prevented from working, the family unit would have to invert to something that has never been sustainably done in human nature. Women would have to sacrifice their natural role for a new role that wouldn’t come close to sustaining the economical or social basis of society.

Imagining all these scenarios in your head couldn’t lead to a more vivid result. Forbidding men from working would lead to a definite economic and demographic collapse of a nation and fast accession to third-world status while forbidding women from working would lead to only short-term economic harm while quickly increasing the demographic status of a nation that would then require less third-world immigrants. The likelihood of a cultural collapse would be eliminated. The economic basis of the economy would be strengthened in the long term as a tighter supply of labor prevents the corporate elite from keeping wages depressed while shuttling profits to overseas accounts, which has been steadily happening in America since the 1960’s.

Therefore a man’s labor, when measured collectively, is essential for society, while a woman’s labor, outside of the home, is not. While there are three or four women who have made great contributions to science and human resources over the past century, the absence of those women would not have led to a societal collapse, while the absence of all the men who made great contributions certainly would have. Extending this argument further, it doesn’t take much effort to conclude that besides working in niche fields, women are not needed to participate in the labor force on the level we currently have in America. Forcing themselves to do so is perhaps the greatest misallocation of resources that the Western world has seen since World War 2.

The results of this thought experiment displays the set of naturally given sex roles of the human species. Men are the mules of the species, with an analytical mind and focused determination that facilitates their constant labor. Women are the nurturers of the species, with a more sociable and cooperative mind that facilitates maintaining the hearth and raising children. I’m not making the argument that men are “superior” to women, but that men have strengths over women when it comes to the labor required to maintain at least the economic basis of any society that ensures its proper functioning and even survival. Women have strengths over a man when it concerns other duties that are just as essential to a society’s survival, but it is not working in offices and doing a man’s job to a fraction of the capability and competence that he could do with the same encouragement and training.

Civilization did just fine before women starting working en masse starting in the middle of the 20th century. Most advances since then have come from improvements in medicine, hygiene, transportation, and communication, all of which men were essential in creating while women primarily serve as the end users of those benefits instead of innovators who advanced them. The big steps backwards we’ve taken have been cultural, based on forcefully pushing women into roles that they are not naturally made for, all to benefit the parasitic elite who enjoy cheaper labor and easier population control thanks to diminished family and nationalist bonds.

Western society is actually engaging in a soft version of the thought experiment I’ve proposed, where women are encouraged to work and are given preferential treatment over men in the labor market while men are increasingly shamed and discouraged to work in a way where their merit and effort is rewarded.

Since the current society we now have is one that goes halfway towards the harmful experiment I’ve conducted here, that means we will see severe economical, societal, and cultural problems that would not have come about had we not inverted traditional roles by denying men the roles they naturally excel at while encouraging women in roles they naturally don’t excel at. Until this grotesque societal experiment ends, one that no historical civilization can vouch for, the only result of a nation that takes it on is a complete economical and cultural collapse.[culturewar]

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T. Lightler
T. Lightler
5 years ago

All ideas rightly to weaken the political power of females, will fail unless one thing occurs.

Remove the vote from women. It was awarded by men, it shall be removed by men.

BlueBot22
BlueBot22
5 years ago
Reply to  T. Lightler

There is no way you could possibly vote the vote away from women…nor would any politician suggest such an unpopular idea.

There would have to be a revolution for this to happen.

zaqan
zaqan
5 years ago
Reply to  BlueBot22

Of course you can: get almost all men and a few women to vote for it. Incidentally, about 10-25% of women would vote away their voting rights.

me
me
5 years ago
Reply to  zaqan

Good luck persuading male shitlibs to vote our way…

zaqan
zaqan
5 years ago
Reply to  me

They will eventually. And there are always other methods.

Reason And Believing
Reason And Believing
5 years ago
Reply to  me

You are right, It requires a method used to establish a people’s vote in the first place…….Revolution.

xtc
xtc
5 years ago
Reply to  BlueBot22

On the contrary. The vote is being removed from everyone. We just maintain a charade to keep folks quiet.

jbird669
jbird669
5 years ago
Reply to  xtc

it’s already been removed. It’s been a charade for some time.

BlueBot22
BlueBot22
5 years ago
Reply to  jbird669

When do you think it turned into a charade?

jbird669
jbird669
5 years ago
Reply to  BlueBot22

1913

Fataess Neguh
Fataess Neguh
5 years ago
Reply to  jbird669

Ahh… the almighty Federal Reserve.

Mayz
3 years ago
Reply to  BlueBot22

I’ll go to war for my right to vote. Literally, I’d be willing to kill.

Nightowl2548
Nightowl2548
3 years ago
Reply to  BlueBot22

Just get most men to agree that feminism has got to go and women have no business involved in voting or politics and the whole regime instantly becomes Illegitimate. It’s legitimacy will be the same as “Emperor” Maximillian of Mexico once the French pulled out.

rationalize
rationalize
5 years ago
Reply to  T. Lightler

Here’s the secret — societies where women are feminine, and men are masculine do not allow women to vote … actually, they don’t let anyone vote.

Look at any non-democracy, any communist country (SE Asia / China), any war torn country (middle east) .. and you find none of the female degeneracy we have in the west.

Democracy gave us divorce laws, child support, feminists, and promotion of rabid homosexuality.

Dictators, communists and warlords are corrupt .. but they are real men.

Hejsssaa
Hejsssaa
5 years ago
Reply to  rationalize

Many things are not going great In the West, the West lost. But the muslim World is fucked up even more!!!!!!!!!!

Harris Naseem
Harris Naseem
4 years ago
Reply to  rationalize

Well, we had Dick Cheney who essentially pushed Bush to attack Iraq, so US also had dictators in a way.

Sangelia
Sangelia
4 years ago
Reply to  T. Lightler

Many men use their household member’s vote(s) to increase the vote to where they believe the votes go to.
And that not only includes their significant other(wife, fiance, lover). But in some cases, their daughter(s)(the ones who live at home). As well as any sons they might have.

TeamEdwardJace
TeamEdwardJace
5 years ago

Besides your post being biased and sexist in many areas (as you think Early childhood education is a female only job) if parents (not just women or females )feel they can’t work due to not being able to find quality care for their child , it could hurt the economy. It could possibly be the same for post secondary students who struggle for a school,work and life balance

Tom Arrow
5 years ago
Reply to  TeamEdwardJace

Oh, oh, she dropped the nuclear sexism bomb. Shield your eyes.

Darling, if women stayed at home and took care of the kids, there would naturally be no need for kindergarden. Of course Roosh’s vision is a bit one-dimensional, but still, I can imagine a kid prefers to grow up knowing that it is loved by its mother and family than to be disposed of to a handful of bitches who may not even like or bond with it. I certainly would.

The economic impact? Consider the economic impact of generations of males and females that grow up without a functional family and all the psychological damage from that. Such a person can hardly be called well-functioning or contributing to a healthy economy.

chloe
chloe
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

I agree with there being no need for kindergarden if women took care of their own kids. However, kindergarden is the least important job that women are heavily involved in and is a bit of a bad example. How about nursing, midwifery, obstetric care and gynecology? What about care of the elderly or disabled when relatives are not around or struggling? What about female police officers? Don’t women get searched, questioned and arrested by the police too? What about female prison wardens in women’s jails? What about female teachers and principals in girl’s schools? (I believe school should be gender segregated and having male teachers in girl’s schools and vice verse is very inappropriate) Women are badly needed for these jobs. I think to eliminate women completely from the workforce would have a negative impact on society. Women do a lot of hands on care work and work in the medical field. Without women these jobs would be lost and female patients would be at a huge disadvantage only having access to male doctors, gyneas and might have to be taken care of by a male nurse or have a man help them give birth or touch private parts of their body. I am somewhat of a traditionalist and believe that women with children should be at home, but I think there will always be women who marry later in life, remain childfree or are left at home with little to do when children are older. Society benefits from such women working in the jobs I mentioned.

Tom Arrow
5 years ago
Reply to  chloe

You raise some good points. Yeah, why not. In my view, it would be enough to just let each girl choose what she really wants without pressuring her into some ideology and the outcome would likely be as you describe, apart from the occasional outlier.

I am not a great fan of public schooling, though. On the other hand, it may be suitable for women, as they seem to like repetitive bullshit.

Sangelia
Sangelia
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

And what do you think most jobs are in many cases? Good portion are just repetitive bs. Be it advertising, janitorial, farmer, factory, etc…

Tom Arrow
4 years ago
Reply to  Sangelia

Yeah, but some jobs still require you to use your brain a little.

Sangelia
Sangelia
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

Yep. Thing is, some positions in those various jobs do have the person using one’s brains. Like in a factory job. The supervising jobs like line lead, area supervisor, quality control, the crib(small parts warehouse room) all need the person to be able to do math as well as having the knowledge of how to lead folks. As well as how to do proper paperwork. Along with having the wisdom of how to deal with problems, both small and large.
Thing is, women have been part of the workforce for thousands of years. A farm is a business. She has to be wise to know how and when to help her man out.
Heck, even in the Bible it has where a woman has not only earned her own cash, ran her own business, but also deals in her own land ownership. All requiring brains.

Tom Arrow
4 years ago
Reply to  Sangelia

Maybe. Is that the overwhelming majority of women tho?

panait ciprian
panait ciprian
2 years ago
Reply to  chloe

female police officers are incapable of doing their job. there are tons of videos with women trying to imobilize men. 3 female cops cannot imobilize 1 skinny man. female wardens are the same unless in an all female prison.Female medics are mostly generalist and there are plenty of men to replace them easily. I agree somewhat with female genycologists being better but men are better doctors in all other medical fields. About female school teachers is a bad idea. As bad as having mixed gender classes before college. Boys and girls need different teaching strategies at that early age. If you mix classes either the boys or the girls would be at disadvantage. Or both.

Sangelia
Sangelia
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

Actually kindergarten and preschool these days are used to teach kids what used to be taught in the elementary grades 1- 3. As in math, reading, etc…. So the teachers can concentrate in those grades in getting the kids ready for computer based education.

Sangelia
Sangelia
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

If you stop in a school today. 99% of the teachers on staff K – 12 are women. They are not just in kindergarten. Heck, women have been teachers for at least two centuries. Many of them were those in one room school houses.

AlFromBayShore
AlFromBayShore
5 years ago
Reply to  TeamEdwardJace

Okay, the post is sexist and biased but your counterargument fails to address any of his points. Your examples are, at best, paltry and thin.

TeamEdwardJace
TeamEdwardJace
5 years ago
Reply to  AlFromBayShore

While I acknowledge that I could have perhaps described my examples better , I’d be wasting my time in conducting reseach for counterarugments . It would also be needlessly tilt consuming and moot to bother typing a better response to this article to address all of hid stupidity .

This URL does better depict one of my points:http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/economic-impact-of-child-care/

Furthermore, I was trying to point out that there are working parents and/orc who are also post-secondary students (e.g. Those trying to pursue undergrad degrees for a better career )may also experience similar challenges,

They may feel they can’t work or pursue higher education for better jobs if there is no proper environments or caregiver to place the child is during the day

TeamEdwardJace
TeamEdwardJace
5 years ago
Reply to  AlFromBayShore

I think you could do a great job debunking roosh’a claim (with empiricial data or other resources to support your position when needed ) 🙂

I'm a cat therapist
I'm a cat therapist
5 years ago
Reply to  TeamEdwardJace

Hey everyone, she said “empiricial” ! She must
be educated and have a liberal arts degree! That means she’s right and you’re wrong!

By the way darling, you misspelled empirical.

TeamEdwardJace
TeamEdwardJace
5 years ago

1.Yes I am educated and currently in the process of obtaining my degree (upon earning a diploma )which is not a liberal arts degree . Not every degree falls under that type . Futhernore by no means, did I suggest that by having a degrees makes you better or more intelligent than those who do not or right on every subject matter . I wax however raised by educated industrious parents and by many professionals who do not have archaic or bigoted beleifs(some even being religious ) my friends , family and colleagues also had a positive influence into shaping me into being a decent and human being who’s not a bigot with asinine logic . what I’ve learned from various literature and experience helps make the person I am too.

2. I knew the definition of empirical data and what research studies and a basic comprehension of how they were before entering my degree program though it is being expanded upon as I am conducting a small research study with a partner for assignments.

For the record , the spelling error you clearly felt the pathetic need to point out in a condescending manner , was a typo generated by autocorrect . But you can point out typos that anyone could . Do you want a gold star for your futile efforts?

Marshallaw
5 years ago
Reply to  TeamEdwardJace

Dug any ditches recently?

GetItGoing
GetItGoing
5 years ago
Reply to  Marshallaw

… And boom. Point made!

anne_sprinkler
anne_sprinkler
5 years ago
Reply to  Marshallaw

last week actually. manual labor isn’t really all that hard.

Marshallaw
5 years ago
Reply to  anne_sprinkler

Yea sure you did. Next thing you’ll be telling me you know how to work an excavator. Ha ha ha….. and manual labour is hard only if you’re doing it correctly.

anne_sprinkler
anne_sprinkler
5 years ago
Reply to  Marshallaw

really? so if the hole i dig is as big as yours but you suffered and i didn’t, the work isn’t the same? sounds like you are doing it wrong, not me.

i haven’t needed an excavator, but if it is like most of the machines i’ve used it takes about an afternoon to get the hang of things. this isn’t fucking rocket science, if you are a strong and capable human it doesn’t really matter what you have between your legs, you can just build shit. it’s not hard, and it isn’t a big deal, and i’m not even a dyke.

anne_sprinkler
anne_sprinkler
5 years ago
Reply to  Marshallaw

really? so if we both dig a hole the same size and you suffer and i don’t then somehow i did it wrong? i’m not sure that checks out. if you actually know what you are talking about you know as well as i do that it is all about pacing, how you lift, and protecting your back.

as for the excavator, no, i haven’t had the need to run one yet (next year though, when i put a pond in) but if it’s like any other machine i’ve used it will probably take about an afternoon to get the hang of. this isn’t rocket science and it isn’t a big deal, and you know it.

shit, and i’m not even a dyke. lolololol

Marshallaw
5 years ago
Reply to  anne_sprinkler

I won’t be suffering if I dig a hole the same size, thing is I’ll dig mine and I’ll dig yours too in the time it takes you to dig one. So you feel no strain on any muscle in your body after digging a ditch? Ha ha, not a clue, whatever about your back your arms and legs should feel the strain. Pacing? I ain’t got time to pace….. too much else to do.
Take you an afternoon? Maybe but you’ll end up doing a shit job. Anyone that knows anything about machinery knows you need 100’s of hours of experience to become proficient.
Why don’t you have man to dig your hole? Oh……

anne_sprinkler
anne_sprinkler
5 years ago
Reply to  Marshallaw

is the “oh” supposed to imply that i don’t have a man? sorry, try again.

you can barely string those words together in a cohesive form but it seems like now the speed at which this imaginary ditch we are digging is a factor too…interesting. except that it isn’t because pacing is important in everything, so while you may have gone faster, maybe even dug 2 (because after all you’ve turned into quite the hero here), but i’ll still get a ton of “too much else to do” done too even if i take my time. i can out work all of the men on my team which is how i ended up in charge of them in the first place. it’s the same reason i don’t need 100’s of hours to become proficient with a machine i need for one day to dig exactly one shitty pond.

it’s amusing how fragile you all are, so delicate, so very easily threatened and bruised. so butt hurt over a real ditch i dug and 2 fake ones you imagined you did. lololololol.

but you go on and get the last word now, i know you need it, and i have stuff to build and a bunch of guys to boss around while you cry about women on the internet.

see ya!

Femghazi
Femghazi
5 years ago
Reply to  anne_sprinkler

Hey troll, how you doing? Dig those ditches day in and day out for 40 years and get back to us, till then, shut ya trap!

anne_sprinkler
anne_sprinkler
5 years ago
Reply to  Femghazi

well i still got 20 to go but so far so good.

TeamEdwardJace
TeamEdwardJace
5 years ago
Reply to  Femghazi

Did your brain (that’s smaller than a peanut ) hurt after you formulated that asinine reply?

Femghazi
Femghazi
5 years ago
Reply to  TeamEdwardJace

Wow, my reply must have given you the best VTs yet! You’re welcome!

yup
yup
5 years ago
Reply to  anne_sprinkler

Woman’s definition of Manual Labor: “Oh jeez i’m so tired from this…Let me see if I can find a Strong young Man who will do it for me..”

orlean
orlean
5 years ago
Reply to  yup

And what only serves to prove a point is that men are dumb enough to be manipulated into digging the aforementioned hole.

Sangelia
Sangelia
4 years ago
Reply to  yup

You should have seen the factory where I worked. The women worked harder than the men at the same jobs. Be they assembly, paintshop, silk screening, etc….

panait ciprian
panait ciprian
2 years ago
Reply to  Sangelia

Sangelia maybe but who produced more results? If I can only carry 5 kg and someone else can carry 10 kg it is logical I would work twice as hard for the same result. Does this mean my work values more?

Sangelia
Sangelia
2 years ago
Reply to  panait ciprian

Not always panait..

Plus, in the factory I worked in. If something heavy needed to be moved. Like the Gaylord boxes or even the finished products ready to send to the customers. Both genders used what is known as a pallet jack. Or what ever was used in a certain section of the factory. Like in Silk Screening. They used metal racks to hold the parts as they were drying.

The bosses didn’t care if you were male or female when it came to dealing with heavy things. You did your job as they required it to be done as.

Many of our parts were shipped to us in what is known as a ‘gaylord’ box. Many times the support areas like Paintshop, Silk Screening, Metalizing would also use them to store the parts they had finished in them.

The term Gaylord box is commonly used in the shipping industry and has evolved over the years from being just one type of box to being a term that encompasses a range of box products.

Simply put, a Gaylord box is basically a bulk-size corrugated box. Traditionally, Gaylord boxes are large or bulk size and allow for the shipment of products in a large, single container or on a pallet. Normally about 3 feet by 4 feet and about 3 feet tall.

Most of the work like working on the actual assembly lines were mainly done by the women. Be it wire connections, quality control, packing the signs into the individual boxes for shipping, etc. And depending on the item being built, Every line had a base quota to fill.

panait ciprian
panait ciprian
2 years ago
Reply to  Sangelia

My point was that women and men are different due to testosterone. Men are stronger and can resist stress and anxiety and harsh work conditions much longer than women due to how this hormone affects the human body. As a result women will work more to obtain the same quota. It is mathematical. Now if you say that women produced more than men at the end of the day I would say it is possible but highly improbable. That would mean the men were slacking off

Dr Anon
Dr Anon
2 years ago
Reply to  panait ciprian

It is certainly possible the women did more work than men on any given day. What isn’t possible is for those women to recover as quickly or maintain that volume of production for as long as a man would be able to. It isn’t like men have a little more testosterone; they’ve got 20x the testosterone and all the physical benefits that come with it. One would have to possess a head full of mush to think women can perform manual labor jobs with the same vigor as men.

Femghazi
Femghazi
5 years ago
Reply to  TeamEdwardJace

Gosh, wow, just wow! I can’t even…

spicynujac
spicynujac
5 years ago
Reply to  TeamEdwardJace

Agreed–families with children would be much better off under the care of a parent, not a stranger.

TeamEdwardJace
TeamEdwardJace
5 years ago
Reply to  spicynujac

Do you that once the child and parent or caregivers becomes familiar with quality early childhood educators, that the ECEs are not strangers to them ? Second When in quality learning environments, that children benefit

Titan000
Titan000
5 years ago
Reply to  TeamEdwardJace

Sexism is being realistic dear.

TeamEdwardJace
TeamEdwardJace
5 years ago
Reply to  Titan000

The pruning of your brain neurons must have gone horrendously awry if you truly subscribe to that dogma

panait ciprian
panait ciprian
2 years ago
Reply to  TeamEdwardJace

TeamEdward I hated that SOB and wanted him to die. Also I am sorry biology is sexist but if we men could bear children and produce milk we would not need women anymore. period.

Tom Arrow
5 years ago

Any economy that prevents women from working would in my estimation recover in 4-10 years once currently idle men are enticed by a sudden increase in job salaries and benefits along with the opportunity to work in male-only environments where their every statement is not placed under the microscope of the HR gestapo that is overeager to blacklist men for daring to make a politically incorrect statement.

You sound like a politician. Is there any reason to consider this an informed guess or did you just intuit that number?

Harris Naseem
Harris Naseem
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

Well, I think he has a point. Like the menstrual leave and cramp laws for women do cut into the time spent doing work. If say Boeing decides to have a 60% of their 15000 workforce be female who on average make $25 an hour with an average of 5% of the female workforce leaving for menstrual “cramps” and pregnancies, then you would lose (based on if the leave pay is $200/day) approx $3,000,000 per month (or $360,000,000 per year). This is assuming that exactly %5 or 750 employees that make $48,000 a year leave every single month at the same time for the same timeframe.

That is essentially losing a 787-1000 every year on already low profits made on the 787, which could lead to further quality control issues along with a possible end of the Company as we know it within 15 years (+/- 2 years), having further “domino” effect on their partnered manufacturers due to delays in productions that will arise due to that minority leaving every month. On the other hand, if 60% were male, chances are less likely to be that catastrophic to the firm as men don’t need to leave for menstrual cramps or paternity leave as they are the breadwinners of a household. Periods are just that, periods. They are essentially natures way of giving females breaks for child caring.

Tom Arrow
4 years ago
Reply to  Harris Naseem

Cool. But you made a calculating mistake there. 750 * 48,000 is 36,000,000, not 360,000,000.

Harris Naseem
Harris Naseem
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

My bad, I was off by a zero 😛

Tom Arrow
4 years ago
Reply to  Harris Naseem

No big deal with such tiny sums, never worry.

Harris Naseem
Harris Naseem
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

My bad, misread my calculator 😛 But you got the point, 750 workers being paid 36,000,000 for doing jack shit is some serious cash where the end user and the suppliers will then have to take the burden of the losses incurred. That being said, it can vary, depending on how the situation unfolds in regards to the feminine issues that may arise as theoretically all 60% of the workforce can have cramps in one month and cause a surge of cash deficit in Boeing’s and affiliated manufacturer’s accounts….. Bottom line, women are a burden on the workforce in that sense…

Tom Arrow
4 years ago
Reply to  Harris Naseem

Let us not talk around the issue: Women are shit.

Harris Naseem
Harris Naseem
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

Exactly, but I just needed to put some mathematical analysis out there so any feminist reading it can go and cry a river….

Sangelia
Sangelia
4 years ago
Reply to  Harris Naseem

Actually I would say that you meant a feminazi.

Harris Naseem
Harris Naseem
3 years ago
Reply to  Sangelia

same thing. Feminism is only about putting women above men.

Sangelia
Sangelia
3 years ago
Reply to  Harris Naseem

True feminism is putting men and women as being equal to each other.
feminazism is putting women above men..
There are extremists in any group. and those who are feminazis are the extremist.
Iit is the extremists that are in that group that gives that group it’s bad name. Be it gender, religion, etc.

disappointed
disappointed
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

Wow. I just love this freaking world.

Michelle Green
Michelle Green
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

Just stick to screwing other men then and leave women be if you despise them so much

Tom Arrow
4 years ago
Reply to  Michelle Green

Witty.

Haha
Haha
3 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

Your mother beat you? It’s okay hunny 😂

Tom Arrow
3 years ago
Reply to  Haha

Fuck off.

Sangelia
Sangelia
4 years ago
Reply to  Harris Naseem

What you refer to as menstrual laws is a set of religious laws for a group of folks.
There are no laws set by the govt about such things. Heck, for cramps, most gals just take a aspirin and go about their day.

jzak95
jzak95
5 years ago

Roosh, you keep writing articles like this, and you are absolutely hitting the nail on the head. But what do you propose we do about it? Do we fight back, run away or simply give up hope? What should younger guys like me do? How do we fight back in a culture that is so far up the leftist narrative’s ass it will likely never right itself again? What point is there to running away if by the time guys my age become financially independent traditional nations have become hardcore carousel nations? How do we move forward as men, especially younger men, in a world that is becoming incredibly more hostile and a future more bleak by the day?

Tom Arrow
5 years ago
Reply to  jzak95

For a few moments in the past months, I considered joining ISIS or something like that. I do not see a point trying to rectify the current state. What for, anyway? The law is a mere symptom of the character of most of today’s men. You can not change a law without changing the people first. So that is what you would need to do first.

Joining a strong nation would appal me for religious reasons and for having to submit to their vision of god and their rules. But at least that may have a future. This weakling nation is bound to be eaten up eventually.

On the other hand, one may just wait until the global super state falls apart and then join the strongest gang. Like with the fall of the Roman Empire, as I heard about it, it is not really so that everything just ends, rather the big thing fades away and the big nation splits into little territories.

jzak95
jzak95
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

I agree with just about everything you say. Personally, I feel that if Donald Trump wins the presidency we have a chance, albeit a very small one, of at least beginning to turn things around in this country. However, I’m not getting my hopes up. I believe the fate of the United States will fall into one of two categories:
1) Conquest by Islam
2) Will split into smaller countries (Likely the east and west coasts will form liberal nations and the states in the middle of the country will become a more conservative country)
Either way, I am convinced that I will witness the collapse of western civilization in my lifetime, and by the time I am in my seventies the United States will have completely ceased to exist.

Tom Arrow
5 years ago
Reply to  jzak95

You may be right. I try to see it in the good light: Life honors me by being able to be a part of something as epic as the death of the society that I am a cog of. Who knows, maybe that is what I signed up for in my ‘soul contract’.

jzak95
jzak95
5 years ago
Reply to  zaqan

Or that. Perhaps it’s for the best.

spicynujac
spicynujac
5 years ago
Reply to  jzak95

The more I travel, the more differences I see across America, the more it baffles me how it is able to operate as a single nation.

America is a large enough behemoth that one man can no longer change things. Trump is no angel, but even if he were, he would lack the power to defeat all the corporate interests and power elites who have taken over the reigns of power in this country.

Re: Islam — I really don’t see this happening. It’s the current worry, like killer bees from Africa were in the 90s. The trend is moving away from religious and superstitious beliefs, and if governments didn’t fixate on it so much, I believe the movement would die a faster death. After all, the ISIS movement in the ME is less a religious movement than a social / political one.

Re: Splitting into multiple nations: while that would be an improvement, I don’t see the problems of this country being liberal vs. conservative. The overarching problems I have with our government and society are much larger than liberal or conservative, and I can’t say I would care much which of the two I lived in. The issue is much bigger than this.

Harris Naseem
Harris Naseem
4 years ago
Reply to  jzak95

Islam ain’t the issue, the Issue is that the US funds Wahhabis who are against nations that don’t want US Hegemony in the region….. You call Gulf Arabs “Muslim” when they enslave non-Arab Muslims to make those shiny buildings in Dubai? Please cry to the KKK… BTW, The Wahhibis fund Feminism, so give it a second before bringing prepositions about Islam to the discussion.

Guy Chauhan
Guy Chauhan
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

“You can not change a law without changing the people first. So that is what you would need to do first.”

That is a great insight. this’s what we should be working on, correcting the social realities. keep sharing (Y)

Tom Arrow
5 years ago
Reply to  Guy Chauhan

In the end, you really only have to wonder why you believe that bullshit and you will know why most do. Now, how many people watch parliament sessions for entertainment? Exactly. It is the media that really rules.

Skoll
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

You and I have the same thoughts.

Our whole ‘civilization’ is rotten to the core and collapse is the only desirable (and eventual) outcome. Until then, us men are merely wasting our prime masculine years of our youth. We were designed to be warriors, not some wage slaves in a feminist society.

Tom Arrow
5 years ago
Reply to  Skoll

Concerning warriors, I saw the movie ’13 Assasins’ yesterday. The new one. Absolutely love it.

zaqan
zaqan
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

*knock knock* Partyvan

Tom Arrow
5 years ago
Reply to  zaqan

yes?

Rhyme Or Reason
Rhyme Or Reason
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

“rather the big thing fades away and the big nation splits into little territories.”

Then if we really wanted to be on the same page, we’d all start migrating towards a single region, like the white nationalists always talk about the Pacific North west.

Tom Arrow
5 years ago

Yeah, makes sense.

Rhyme Or Reason
Rhyme Or Reason
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

since there are no real plans for this sort of thing, means we probably have a ways to go

Tom Arrow
5 years ago

What do you mean?

Rhyme Or Reason
Rhyme Or Reason
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

maybe i’m going off the rails a bit, but lets think about this.

we all know that we can’t “vote” our way out of this mess. It’s far too late for that, even if Trump were to get elected. the cultural rot has progressed to a point where democracy is ruined for generations to come. Politics is downstream of the culture…and once people are debased to the degree they are now, there’s no reversing it. Maybe if they all “accept jesus” or some shit but that aint happening, obviously.

It really comes down to relativism and spiritual nihilism. Nobody cares about the loftier concepts, experiences, and lessons being human has to offer. No, it’s all about pop science and pseudo intellectual nonsense to make them feel like part of the in crowd. The modern human is spiritually bereft.

What i’m trying to say is, there is no fixing this.

So what’s the logical next step? Do we just live out our lives, fucking random chicks, getting drunk and wait for the collapse? If so, fine. But if we really wanted to do something we would set up networks with the purpose of real resistance. Note i said resistance and not activism.

Tom Arrow
5 years ago

Seriously, dude, the more free my mind gets, the more I love the idea of actual resistance.

I had a dream tonight, where I swam in a river that was occupied by stronger guys than me. One of them put me under water. I thought he did not care further and tried to dive away. But he kept after me and that is when I realized how intimate a fight really is. He did not let go while I was approaching my last breath. I resisted the idea of drowning, but when I woke up, I think I integrated the experience. A fight to the death. A worthy way for a man to die.

For now, I am content with living my own life, though, and eventually getting to the point of fucking random chicks.

spicynujac
spicynujac
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

What about joining a weak nation? You know a place where you are just free to be you, and the state doesn’t have any overwhelming power to spy on your communications, drone you, or spend significant resources harassing you? I have not yet travelled enough to make recommendations but Costa Rica with its lack of military, good economy, and environmental preservation outlook (25% of the country is preserved wildlife) seems like a good choice for me if I were moving today. People want to attack strong nations. Rome made itself a target for hundreds of years until it was finally brought down. But who wants to invade Switzerland? Not even Hitler did. He went straight for powerful Russia.

Tom Arrow
5 years ago
Reply to  spicynujac

It is a somewhat charming idea. But a land that never goes to war seems like a place of people who are not used to the pleasures of warfare and violence. Just conjecturing, of course, but I am a warrior and rebel at heart and I wonder if that would not be a bit boring. In the end, it is not about the nation. It is about the people that you are going to surround yourself with.

spicynujac
spicynujac
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

Go play an aggressive soccer match with the locals. To me that’s more aggressive and violent in a masculine way than playing drone killing video games from a CIA base in the desert.

Tom Arrow
5 years ago
Reply to  spicynujac

Hah. Yeah, drones are boring. I am more into intimate face-to-face combat. Frankly, technological warfare takes all the joy out of it. I like sparring. Someday, I will hopefully fight in a cage.

spicynujac
spicynujac
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

I haven’t been to asia, but with all the samurai stuff and kung fu temples and ninja movies, they seem to value the warrior class. I would recommend planning a trip to the orient… join one of those ninja training groups like they had in You Only Live Twice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpSpWqbP5yc

Tom Arrow
5 years ago
Reply to  spicynujac

Haha. I read a book about Muay Thai. For some in Thailand, it translates as honor. Just imagine the joy of being in a fight restaurant for dinner, seeing a dangerous man and respectfully challenging him without shame. What a great and wise tradition.

Roosh
5 years ago
Reply to  jzak95

These are difficult questions I’m trying to answer myself.

pbw11
pbw11
5 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

Roosh you are doing a fantastic job so far — really making people think.

ShepardSays
5 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

You gotta understand first how women got enticed into the workforce and how they’ve been kept in the workforce for decades now.

The first mass hiring of female employees was by IBM during the Great Depression. Guess what they did? They got a government contract for the IBM 77 Collator for collecting data for Social Security. Thus setting us on the Welfare path. More women got into the workforce and were hired into ‘Rosie the Riveter’ job by factories with government contracts.

http://www.wired.com/2012/06/how-social-security-saved-ibm/

But after the war most of those women either returned home or pursued office jobs. Not necessarily jobs men would have wanted considering they were lower paying than working labor jobs or on the factory line.

By the 1970s, especially after the Nixon Shock and the 1973 Oil Embargo, the U.S. economy started to see another slow down with inflation. Paul Volcker was brought into the Fed Reserve under Jimmy Carter and raised interest rates to 19%.

This effort to put the economy back on track saw a need to monetize more labor hours. This is where women in droves entered the workforce again. The 1970s feminism was a push to monetize female labor hours.

“Back in the 1970s during one of those periodic debates about full-employment, legendary humorist Art Buchwald proposed a sure fire way to double the GDP and do it instantly. That was in the time that most women had not yet entered the labor force and politically incorrect discussion was still permitted on the august pages of the Washington Post.

Said Buchwald, “Pass a law requiring all men to hire their neighbor’s wife!” That is, monetize all of the cleaning, cooking, washing and scrubbing done every day in American households and get the monetary value computed in the GDP; and, in the process get homemakers factored into the labor force and their contribution to the economy’s real output in the labor utilization rate.”

Female labor hours have long been used to hide the real employment rate of the country. Every economist will say World War II lowered the statistical unemployment rate. But this is not true. It was women entering the workforce aided by government all along.

“At the present time, there are 210 million adult Americans between the ages of 16 and 68—to take a plausible measure of the potential work force. That amounts to 420 billion potential labor hours, if we accept the convention that all adults are at least theoretically capable of holding a full-time job (2,000 hours/year) and pulling their share of society’s need for production and work effort.

By contrast, during 2014 only 240 billion hours were actually
supplied to the US economy, according to the BLS estimates. Technically, therefore, there were 180 billion unemployed labor hours, meaning that the real unemployment rate was 42.9%, not 5.5%!

Sangelia
Sangelia
4 years ago
Reply to  ShepardSays

Actually women have been part of the workforce for centuries, if not thousands of years.
Be they teachers, shopgirls, and the biggest field of amount of women working was in the domestics. As maids, cooks, governesses, etc, as in working for a noble and or rich families.

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  jzak95

2 choices as I see it:
– leave and go to somewhere like Russia or Japan
– make yourself the best man you can be. Read old books written by great thinkers. Lift weights. Unplug from mainstream media. Stop eating junk food. Strive for financial independence. Stop chasing low quality sluts. Be moral and honourable. Inspire other men around you to do the same. Create communities based on masculine ideals with like-minded individuals.

The second option is by far the harder. But if you don’t want to leave your country it’s the only way to create change, from the ground up.

FrmCanadian
FrmCanadian
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

1. I’ve left Canada 7+ years ago, moved to Russia and then to Ukraine, never looked back or regretted my decision for 1 second.

2. Making myself the “best man I could be” didn’t work in Canada. All Canadian women dream about selling themselves to the highest male bidder on a dating market. I’ve read a lot of books and I’m well educated, I’m a lot into sports, I teach water sports in fact and I’m an athlete myself, I’ve never followed any mainstream media, I’ve never eaten much of a junk food, I’ve had some money and savings (guess not enough by North American standards) and I’ve always dared to differ, to have my own opinion, to stand up and be counted and to lead by example.
The problem is that Canada as a society does not need those who are different, who dare to be a personality with an own opinion and who care to lead by example! Canada needs robots, slaves and puppets, controlled and manipulated by the mainstream media!

I’d say that Canada and USA are indeed lost. You ain’t gonna change them no matter how hard you are gonna try.
Thus packing one’s bags and getting the hell out of North America is the only viable option left.

DeCode
DeCode
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

why do guys keep trumpeting Russia and Japan. Are you that ill informed. BOTH of those countries are far worse for males.

In Japan your only option at freedom is to be a otaku (their version of a basement dwelling kneckbeard) or a hard core MGTOW who does not interact with females at all…or if you’re ‘bitch-made’ a herbivore.

The second option IS viable, but the GOV is already hard at work with legislation to force men to marry or loose valuable resources through fines and taxes for being single. Plus, the women kinda suck. They are only promiscuous and free with foreigners. They treat their own men like sh#t once married…generally.

In Russia the system IS broke. As a man all you have to look forward to is hard living, hustling and dealing with hypergamous women on a level we can only imagine. Never mind the system is OPENLY corrupt from top to bottom. I guess a little peace can come from knowing that it’s an “blatant and open” type of corruption.

spro23
spro23
5 years ago
Reply to  DeCode

what are all the bachelor taxes you can think of?
obamacare, divorce laws, co-habitating laws……I’m trying to make a list of taxes on single men

DeCode
DeCode
5 years ago
Reply to  spro23

Social security and medicare are two big ones in the States that are often over looked. Also singles do not get a tax credit like married couples.

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  spro23

You do realize that it effects not just men that are single, right…

jzak95
jzak95
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Don’t see why both choices can’t work in conjunction.

John Galt
John Galt
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Japan.. You need to marry to stay or have legit skills in demand to get PR. You will always be treated as a foreigner and will be stuck teaching English for peanuts. Wages are low and being a foreigner isn’t anything special there anymore. No more auto-lays with quality women.

me
me
5 years ago
Reply to  John Galt

Depends where in Japan. Stray from the major cities, and foreigners are still an exotic sight for locals.

This is even more true in China. Near the coastal trade hubs you’re just another bloody foreigner. But in smaller cities deeper inland you’re a minor rockstar just for being white.

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

To clarify, I wasn’t touting option 1 as a free lunch – anyone that thinks he can turn up somewhere in the world with little money and employable skills, having not worked on himself, and be entitled to hot women is lazy and delusional.

The fact remains however that the 2 countries I mentioned are more traditional societies with less degeneracy (for now) and higher quality women, Japan especially so being still essentially patriarchal in nature. They represent a better option to try and start a family than the West, if that’s what you want to do.

DeCode
DeCode
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

NO NO NO, talk to a few guys who have dealt with REAL relationships with Japanese women, or have been married to one. Also, ask a Japanese man what marriage is like in japan and the culture and laws supporting it.

Japan is just as bad if not worse than the US in this regard. In fact the US is heading in the direction of japan.

http://www.returnofkings.com/38058/the-ugly-reality-of-dating-japanese-women

http://www.city-data.com/forum/relationships/1085755-american-men-married-japanese-women.html

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  DeCode

“NO NO NO” – you sound like a petulant child throwing a tantrum. I would suggest attempting to communicate in a fashion more befitting a grown man.

You first assume I do not know anyone who has a relation with Japanese women – I do. I have also been to Japan myself.

You secondly then cite 2 pieces of poorly written anecdotal evidence as “proof” of your point of view. On that city data forum, even the first respondent tears down the OPs post.

By the way: putting RANDOM words in your PUERILE rant in CAPS doesn’t make it ANY more correct.

me
me
5 years ago
Reply to  jzak95

Whatever needs to be done, it will require a lot of manpower to pull off. Right now we need to wake up as many men as possible to the red pill truth. When the time is right and our forces are strong, there will be a way towards victory.

Men never give up hope. Defeatism is for women.

Quintus Curtius
5 years ago
Reply to  jzak95

At this point, you need to be doing the following:
1. Identifying the problem.
2. Identifying who is responsible for the problem.
3. Keeping your knife sharp and your mind prepared for anything.
When the time is right, you will know what to do.

Julius Streicher
Julius Streicher
5 years ago

We all know where the road leads, to the ‘brothers of the cut’. Oy vey!

rationalize
rationalize
5 years ago
Reply to  jzak95

Take the Red Pill .. and treat western women like the vapid sluts they are.

While we all have ideals of family life — a house, kids, 9 to 5 job — this is no longer a good deal for the western man.

The odds are she will get fat. She will become whiny and irritating as she ages. She will financially zero-you-out when you call her out on her sloth.

So what can a young man do in the west?

Take that Red Pill .. Abandon your naive biological intuition of the ideal family life (yes, it is hard to do).

*Recognise that the family court system hates you, and is built to harm you, because you are a man*

So what can you do? You can coax them, humour them, bang them, and ditch them -before they can claim two year co-habitation de-facto relationship status and take your wealth-.

Western women have little more to offer than regular vaginal access.

To quote Day Bang — “While I’m not saying you should hate women, my initial impression of them is that they’re lubricated holes that exist mostly for a man’s sexual pleasure.”

That is seeing the world for what it really is.

Tom Arrow
5 years ago

Roosh, I do think that your ideas are a little too extremist. Here is why.

Why should all women stop to work? As long as a woman has no man, there is nothing for her to do. And what about the mentally ill, fat, deformed, ugly women whom no man will want to marry? Will you force men to marry those? I think that work, especially in the female professions, is quite a suitable thing for those who are not occupied with being a wife.

Yeah, I am being somewhat cruel, but it is what it is. I would prefer a world where women can indeed work, but with the limitation that nobody forces men to employ them. And how would that work? Well, you would – in the first place – need men who are willing to stand behind their words. You would need to reeducate men.

This kind of legislatin will never pass in the near future. It is a ponderable concept for the intellectually brave, but it is not something you can easily sell to the masses. And somebody has to vote that shit in.

Now, nothing against your vision of a perfect world, but you would be more convincing if you were a bit more realistic.

me
me
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

He didn’t say that all women should stop to work, but rather compared two hypothetical scenarios: only women and only men working – to show which is more essential to a functioning society.

Tom Arrow
5 years ago
Reply to  me

Fair enough. Got carried away by the headline.

me
me
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

Ha! You’re right, the headline is misleading. Then again, clickbait titles are the bread and butter of ad supported websites, so I stopped paying attention to them years ago.

Theodore
Theodore
5 years ago

We’re at the crossroads and yes I think the collapse is near. We have seen how transhumanism is pushed by corporations and the media, especially with younger generations. With tech, women could be physically “improved” therefore capable of doing hard men work. But then, if we’re heading towards more tech, robots will do our work so we can all relax and get fat. We will no longer need engineers, scientists and builders for our cities or at least just a few (men of course). That’s the kind of nightmare they’re preparing for us. The western world is dumbing down, a person with an average IQ today could become a genius tomorrow. We have already seen how mediocrity is hailed today, the inept is king, we’re accustomed to very very low standards. They’re all symptoms of a feminized society and it’s a f….. disaster. Are we past the tipping point ? Is it too late to reverse the insanity ?

advancedatheist
advancedatheist
5 years ago
Reply to  Theodore

Arthur C. Clarke in one of his novels published back in the 1970’s portrays as a utopia a technologically advanced society with settlements on several planets and on the moons of the gas giant planets like Saturn’s Titan, full of racially mixed, mostly bisexual people. He didn’t anticipate that the browning of the world would result in lowering the median IQ below the threshold necessary for creating these technological advances and then maintaining them afterwards.

Marshallaw
5 years ago

Wasn’t he a paedo?

Brutus Maximus
Brutus Maximus
5 years ago
Reply to  Marshallaw

Clarke is connected to CIA, that’s a fact.

advancedatheist
advancedatheist
5 years ago
Reply to  Theodore

I have an uncomfortable relationship with “transhumanism” these days. Guess who coined the word “singularitarian”? Ray Kurzweil credits me with that in an end note in The Singularity Is Near.

I also coined the verb “to cryocrastinate” around the same time, and now I’ve seen both of these neologisms coming into use.

ActionJackson23
ActionJackson23
5 years ago

“To the woman he said, ‘I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.’

To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’ “Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.” — Genesis 3:16-19

And so it has been ever since, until feminism convinced women to unwittingly take on men’s curse as their own.”

Tom Arrow
5 years ago

Seems kinda ironic in the age of McDonalds.

zaqan
zaqan
5 years ago

Isnt it funny how men stupidly listened to women back then too? What could go wrong

DeCode
DeCode
5 years ago
Reply to  zaqan

Agreed. I always chuckle to myself when I hear ‘Red Pill guys who hate on the bible. It is outlined repeatedly – in the Old and New testament – that a woman’s place is to serve man…period. And a woman who is operating outside of this role in her family and relationship WILL bring destruction to that relationship and family, as well as contribute to trouble in the church:

1 Tim 5:14 “13At the same time they also learn to be idle, as they go around from house to house; and not merely idle, but also gossips and busybodies, talking about things not proper to mention.14Therefore, I want younger widows to get married, bear children, keep house, and give the enemy no occasion for reproach; 15for some have already turned aside to follow Satan”

Yet more plain and obvious wisdom on the behavior of women and how deal with them. The problem is not women per say. It’s the men and how we have let them get out of control. Modern men go out of their way to enable the worst in women. Then act surprised when she – like some loose cannon in the hold of a storm tossed ship – proceeds to wreck and destroy everything around her.

Taryn Lichenstein
5 years ago
Reply to  DeCode

I’ve been saying for some time that men could put a stop to all this nonsense, and probably in a short amount of time, if they would stand up to women and refuse to back down no matter what. It makes me sad that, rather than reclaim their rightful place as rulers of their own homes and society, men choose to simply give up, even though I understand why they do.

Taryn

Hubert Cumberdale
Hubert Cumberdale
5 years ago

Female police, firefighters, and military personnel are completely inferior to their male counterparts. And how many female aircraft maintenance technicians, bridge builders, welders, plumbers, electricians, locksmiths, glaziers, or just general hard labourers do you know?

VITAL JOBS for a functioning society that women don’t want to touch with a ten foot pole. They would rather take vanity jobs like “marketing” in some unnecessary product or being a typist for lame articles in Thought Catalogue.

And worst of all, HR. They think they are the queen bee in a totally unnecessary job where they think they can boss around the men and terminate their employment at their whim.

Clark Kent
Clark Kent
5 years ago

They’re called dykes.

Cat5krusher
Cat5krusher
5 years ago
Reply to  Clark Kent

There are only so many diesel dykes though. Not enough and to “fill the void” so to speak. They dont have the emotinal control that men have to handle thinking on the fly under pressure .

DarthHideous
DarthHideous
5 years ago

Yeah, it’s ridiculous. I have a buddy who was in the Navy and he said that good guys were being pushed out of their jobs or not even considered for promotions because the Navy “needs more women.”

spro23
spro23
5 years ago
Reply to  DarthHideous

we need a hard, bloody war

Dutch_pride
Dutch_pride
5 years ago
Reply to  spro23

Not before women have to sign up for the draft and do actual combat tasks. War = men dying for women. Think about it.

Look at WW2. Thousands of nameless John’s died on the shores of France, yet women are praised for playing Rosie the riveter: “We can do it” “We can do it”.
I’d rather make bombs for five years than come back from war with a trauma and without an arm and a leg. Or, in a coffin of course.

http://img04.deviantart.net/9be4/i/2009/220/2/f/rosie_the_riveter_by_tamasgaspar.jpg

DarthHideous
DarthHideous
5 years ago
Reply to  spro23

Send the feminists in the first wave.

Brutus Maximus
Brutus Maximus
5 years ago

Where I work, there’s a whole team of women whose sole task is to create one page powerpoint with ten lines per day. The rest of the day is spent gossiping in corridors. They just laid off 10 male engineers but kept these powerpoint monkeys in the name of equality. Where are the SJWs ?

Rude Man
Rude Man
5 years ago
Reply to  Brutus Maximus

If you want to help change the system, document this by gathering evidence at the company while working there.

Create a website (anonymously) where you publish all the documentation of this travesty.

Write an article on ROK on the subject with a link to your website.

Use SEO techniques so your website has high rankings when the company is searched.

Send a link to all men who were fired.

Reach out to writers or men’s activists with strong twitter followings and ask them to check out your website and link to it through twiiter and /or write an article about it.

See if you can get a hashtag going with the company’s name.

Cover your @ss and make yourself termination proof by filing a sexual harassment lawsuit against the company alleging wrongdoing by a female employee.

Post a review on company review websites like glassdoor where you outline the unfriendly male work environment.

Post a phony story from a woman’s point of view on thoughcatalog or tumbr where you describe how awesome it is to work at this company where women are given preferential treatment and the work load is minimal.

If you are fired, send a company wide email from an anonymous account with a link to the website and a warning to all male employees to begin to look for other jobs ASAP.

In the meantime take as much advantage of the company as you can.

Conrad Stonebanks
Conrad Stonebanks
5 years ago
Reply to  Brutus Maximus

“Where I work, there’s a whole team of women whose sole task is to create one page powerpoint with ten lines per day. The rest of the day is spent gossiping in corridors.”

Sounds like academia.

Elton
Elton
5 years ago
Reply to  Brutus Maximus

Its the same shit where I work as well, I’ve only been here 6 months and made a big deal about it via my attitude. The Ex. VP showed up and yelled at everybody and for about 2 days they pretended to work, afterwards back to normal, email’s unanswered, phone calls missed etc. Now when some of the pretty ones see me in the cafeteria their roll their eyes with a face of contempt. Men are digging their own graves by treating these parasites like this.

Brutus Maximus
Brutus Maximus
5 years ago
Reply to  Elton

I noticed that men who stick around these incompetents are big manginas. Event the tone of their voices is modified working with women, highly pitched and over dramatic. Like this chick who came back after pregnancy, showing pictures of her baby, the few guys working on their team were like “oooooh aaaah cuuuuute”. Unbearable experience. And bingo : these guys are mostly the unmasculine skinny fat type. No alpha would scream like that. Being around women too much accelerates the physiological feminization process.

DeCode
DeCode
5 years ago

Agreed, I worked Aircraft MX for years in the Air force. NEVER met or witnessed a female crew chief, engine mechanic, age worker, or any other subsystems specialist who was worth a damn. ESPECIALLY if she was in any way attractive. If just 1-2 guys thought she was worth a quick f#ck, she was using it to her advantage to get out of work.

And generally their problem solving and trouble shooting skills as a rule were absolute garbage. Next to no mechanical intuition.

Wait, I take that back! There was one. But she for all intents and purposes was more of a living embodiment of what a troll would look like in real life. Short, fat, hairy, and dirty. But she could turn a wrench like nobodys business and was quick to get out and pound around on the fligh-line…she was also a lesbian *shrug*.

Anti_Femastasis
Anti_Femastasis
5 years ago

Female police, firefighters, and military personnel are completely inferior to their male counterparts.

B-but anon, men and women are equal
http://i.imgbox.com/2HhX1zC8.jpg

And worst of all, HR. They think they are the queen bee in a totally
unnecessary job where they think they can boss around the men and
terminate their employment at their whim.

http://i.imgbox.com/D4eVzeRw.jpg

Taryn Lichenstein
5 years ago

Wow that picture you shared looks like me whenever I stand next to anyone! O.o

In all seriousness, though, what will it finally take for the preferential treatment afforded to some to finally end? These unfair policies prevent our best and brightest from reaching their full potential, the full consequence of which I fear we may live to see.

Men and women are not equal, nor should we be. I still fail to understand exactly WHY this is such a horrible thing. I guess some people are just never going to be satisfied. I say we give up trying to placate these incompetent cretins and start trying to reverse the incredible damage they’ve inflicted on society (if indeed this is possible at this point. I hope it is).

Taryn

Tom Arrow
5 years ago

As for the WHY, likely shame.

Taryn Lichenstein
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

Perhaps you are right, though there is no shame in not being a man’s equal. I don’t want to be a man’s equal. The end result of any attempt to be such means that I cease to be myself in all my uniqueness and that any talents I may possess are ultimately wasted while I try and force myself to be something I was never created to be. That would be a huge waste. In the end, if I want to be happy and retain my psychological integrity, I can only be myself. It’s obvious that hard core feminists are beyond miserable. They are a sad sight.

Taryn

Tom Arrow
5 years ago

Not that kind of shame. I mean precisely shame for who you truly are.

Taryn Lichenstein
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

Oh. Sorry I misunderstood.

They should be ashamed. They have nothing whatsoever to be proud of. They should be begging men’s forgiveness, not that the stupid little skanks are entitled to it. Ugh. Feel my blood pressure rise. Grrrrrrrrrr.

Taryn

Tom Arrow
5 years ago

It is a true achievment for both of us to generate misunderstanding twice.

My point is: They feel ashamed of their femininity and suppress it. A whore is all that is left.

Taryn Lichenstein
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Arrow

Oh geez. You’ll have to forgive me. I haven’t slept much or well the last few days so it’s not surprising that what you meant went totally over my head. Sorry about that.

Taryn

Tom Arrow
5 years ago

Please, do not feel ashamed.

Batman3.0
Batman3.0
5 years ago

Damn she would not even have to get on her knees.

Batman3.0
Batman3.0
5 years ago
Reply to  Batman3.0

Seriously I could spin that chick the entire weekend without getting tired. What is she protecting and serving? BJs and reverse cowgirl… LOL!

chloe
chloe
5 years ago

If we had only male police, then one could argue that women should no longer be effected by the law and should no longer face the possibility of being arrested. Would it not be grossly inappropriate for a male officer to manhandle or search a female suspect? I think the rest of the jobs you mention could very easily be completely filled by men, but we do need female police officers unless society intends to bring back a completely patriarchal society and make women exempt from breaking the law again. It is only actually in recent years that women have been arrested or faced jail for breaking the law.

Tom Dane
Tom Dane
5 years ago

Finally, was waiting for this. This will start a new hate storm

GetItGoing
GetItGoing
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Dane

Let’s hope so. I do love seeing the overreaction when white middle class females have their jimmies rustled.

zbyszek
zbyszek
5 years ago

In the past, I used to like Roosh’s writings about game and self-improvement, but this blog is recently becoming a complete nonsense, and today’s post is a prime example.

Where did I miss the transition from “male work is more essential to the economy than female work” argument to “women shouldn’t work” argument?

Economy would recover in 4-10 years? Where is that number taken from? One of the most serious explanations for Japan’s chronic stagnation since early 1990s is that the economic oppression of women had eased out over there, leading the country to fall behind foreign competitors.

Civilization did just fine before mid 20th century? If the objective is merely to survive then yes it did. Most people however (men included) would rather live in a world with less wars and violence, even if it comes at the cost of dealing with office gossip.

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  zbyszek

Please tell me you’re female.

Cat5krusher
Cat5krusher
5 years ago
Reply to  zbyszek

Japan has chronic stagnation because the “men” refuse to grow up from video games and tentacle porn and the women have no interest in dating thes super betas. The women are working but they spend their money on clothes, toys and eating at restaraunts.Why dont they send all those fucking muslim immigrants that are destroying europe over to Japan so they can die from Fukashima fallout.Its a win win.

DeCode
DeCode
5 years ago
Reply to  Cat5krusher

The “men” refuse to grow up, because there is nothing in it for them. It has NOTHING to do with immaturity. It’s advanced MGTOW culture.

Japan IS the US within another generation.

Get ready!

spicynujac
spicynujac
5 years ago
Reply to  zbyszek

It’s not an argument; its a method used to examine which sex’s contributions are more highly valued. Remove one sex, what remains is only the other. It doesn’t mean anyone is advocating to ban women from working. It’s a way of logically proving an theory. I agree the 4-10 year part was arbitrary, but I was thinking it would take far less time.

advancedatheist
advancedatheist
5 years ago

If you think about it, gynecology has a lot in common with veterinary medicine. Men had to develop health care for both women and animals because women and animals couldn’t do this for themselves.

JuanPeron
JuanPeron
5 years ago

Women in the workforce can be a positive thing in some cases, but women have gotten too far along strictly based on gender. As part of the perceived notion that they are battling the “Glass Ceiling” many have been put in positions where they did not earn the rite of passage or have enough experience to get the job done. I come across women in companies who actually scream and cry in meetings; complain that if others don’t agree with them its because they’re a woman; in some cases I have had women openly complain that there were “too many white men in suits” in a particular meeting. Recently, I’ve been assigned a new client project that is ALL women. Their behavior is reprehensible! They act like a bunch middle school girls. They have cost both my company and their own a lot of money due to lost time and bad decisions. I’m a big fan of having the best person in a position based on merit and experience and NOT gender, ethnicity or sexual preference. The call for “Diversity” is the death knell of Corporate America.

Roosh
5 years ago
Reply to  JuanPeron

“The call for “Diversity” is the death knell of Corporate America.”

This is by design. Once you work from that presupposition, things start making more sense.

spicynujac
spicynujac
5 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

Not sure I understand this. Most of what I perceive shows corporations gaining and expanding their power, even above that of governments. Why would these powerful institutions take on something like feminism and diversity that would destroy them? I see it more as corporations using diversity to increase their power and as a means to an end.

Who is destroying corporate America and why? What is going to replace it? I see things moving towards more corporate domination, not less.

Better Dead Than Red
Better Dead Than Red
5 years ago
Reply to  spicynujac

Corporate = governenment.
Bailout = taxes + printing money.

FrmrCanadian
FrmrCanadian
5 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

Diversity, political correctness, affirmative action, quota hiring, tolerance and multiculturalism!

Vegard Johansen
Vegard Johansen
5 years ago

No need to ban women from working.
Let`s just have a free market instead of big-government, socialist, croony-capitalist rule, and resources, including HR, would allocate themselves where most needed.
In reality, this would mean that most women would do the blunt of their work in the context of the family/home, while still allowing for women who are outliers to have the oppurtunity to pursue a career competing on equal terms with men.(which extremely few women are capable of.)

DarthHideous
DarthHideous
5 years ago

I can’t take anything the feminists say seriously, especially having worked in the service industry.
My female coworkers and I got paid the same and I did way more shit than they did. I made deliveries in the rain and snow, lifted heavy shit and brought it to the basement, set up the rugs, swept the floor, made the food, washed the dishes, worked the grill when needed, and took down orders
The females only made the food, counted cash, barked out orders, and worked the register: things I also know how to do and am capable of doing. And they still think shit is unfair for them?
On another note, one of the female coworkers used to flirt with me, complemented me on certain body parts, and touched me quite a bit. Another dude tries flirting with her and touches her and she cries “sexual harassment.” Dude gets the boot. I don’t fucking even…

GetItGoing
GetItGoing
5 years ago
Reply to  DarthHideous

Also when 5pm comes who do you think is the first out the door ALWAYS? Hint: not male

DarthHideous
DarthHideous
5 years ago
Reply to  GetItGoing

Too true.

Rude Man
Rude Man
5 years ago
Reply to  DarthHideous

You should have banged the girl who flirted with you OR gotten her fired for sexual harassment if you weren’t into it.

Both if you are a real edgelord.

DarthHideous
DarthHideous
5 years ago
Reply to  Rude Man

She was younger than me and had a kid. I wasn’t going to get wrapped up in that mess. Though, there was this cute Asian chick with a Hispanic body…

just a human
just a human
5 years ago

Great post! In my country (eastern europe) most man are dirty workhorses and often recieve less money than women who mostly do some so called “women jobs”-for example-be a secretary and answer phone calls. Total injustice ..no one speaks about this ..Thanks Roosh!

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago

Something like this has been in my mind for a while. Now I have seen the light. Just took someone with a better understanding of how society works to put these thoughts into a coherent discourse. Here is hoping some of the great minds of our time will eventually arrive to the same conclusion and changes in this direction will eventually be introduced. Feminist icon Emma Watson can rest assured her work is essential, though. We are not going to turn cinema arts into Kabuki performances any time soon.

slack
slack
5 years ago

We need that movie!

Guy Chauhan
Guy Chauhan
5 years ago

feminism is an ugly offspring of socialism. both’re unnatural and actually are threats.

Heinrich von Geobbels
Heinrich von Geobbels
5 years ago
Reply to  Guy Chauhan

Feminism is also the ugly offspring of a society that has a lot of free time on its hands.

Explode a thermonuclear device 200 miles above Kansas City or let a solar flare hit us full force and the resultant EMP will shove us back to the late 19th century immediately and eliminate feminism from the cultural landscape within 24 hours.

It will be like that really odd Old Testament verse I read many years ago:

Seven women will grab hold of one man at that time. They will say, “We
will provide our own food, we will provide our own clothes; but let us
belong to you–take away our shame!” (Isaiah 4:1, NET Bible)

Guy Chauhan
Guy Chauhan
5 years ago

The verse you mentioned actually has lot of weight. clearly the “man” in this verse implies to “Real Man” of today as there’re many of “Politically correct” version.

Slashfund
Slashfund
5 years ago

Crazy that countries like Japan with shrinking populations think that the solution is to get more women into offices. Maybe if they ban birth control so that their bosses repeatedly impregnate them…

FrmrCanadian
FrmrCanadian
5 years ago

Oh, come on… Banning or stopping anyone from doing anything has never led to any positive results or impact on folks around.
It ain’t about WOMEN, it’s all about the system of modern values and priorities!
It’d about political correctness, tolerance, multiculturalism, affirmative action, quota hiring and other preferences women are given in the workforce and society in general.
Take that away and you’ll get a society based on education, professional experiences, knowledge, willingness to work, specific skills acquired for this or that job. What’s wrong with female teacher, nannies, office workers, bartenders, waitresses for example? Ain’t it nice to enter a diner and see waitresses in mini skirts and high heels running around, taking orders and serving plates?
I do not feel uncomfortable dealing with females at passport office, bank and other organizations? Why should those positions be limited to “males only”?
Dare to see the roots of the problem and not what’s on the surface!! Women ain’t the problem, the system of values and laws of the modern society is!

pbw11
pbw11
5 years ago

Roosh never implied banning women from work. His main argument is attempting to bring women into the workforce to achieve equality in reality is the disempowerment of straight men. Reality is most women do not want to work – especially doing the risky trades that men do – and would prefer staying home and raising children. For the women who really want to work and not have kids, men have always helped them in the work force.

themaharajah
themaharajah
5 years ago
Reply to  pbw11

Exactly, most jobs are either Dangerous, Hard, Mundane or provide no status boost whatspever. Women are only in it for the perceived status boost and independance, which in reality for 95% doesn’t ever actually materialize, it’s just boring and hard work for not enough money. Even for those who it does materialize for, it’s HARD work and a lot of them bail on it or else end up depressed old childless hags.

Women must hate standard garden variety Betas that much, they just want to be independent so they don’t have to fuck one of them for life, certainly not whilst they are young and hot.

Marshallaw
5 years ago
Reply to  themaharajah

Also do people really believe governments are in it for the “equality”? Its bullshit. Just more worker bees for the tax take buying shit they don’t need breeding latch key kids popping Ritalin like smarties……

BANGER
BANGER
5 years ago

Dude you keep hitting your brain with this crap. I’m not saying there isn’t any truth in wath you mantain but man, what kind of crusade are you bringing on? You will end up taking on your boat just losers and bitter betas. Do you really think that what you state will make the world a better place? Things will not change, dude, accept it. They’ll probably move still further in the direction you are trying to stop. With all the rapes happening in India and in the islamic states on war, do you really think the establishment will stop making laws that favour women? They won’t, bet your ass on it.

themaharajah
themaharajah
5 years ago
Reply to  BANGER

Except Europe is being invaded by Islamic types and south Asians as we speak. The west either bucks up it’s ideas and institutes some kind of more moderate, civilized, (much)whiter version of Islamic ideals. Or they will be conquered by the rapists you are talking about.
You really don’t have your finger on the pulse do you buddy? look how much debt we are in since feminist/socialist ideas took a footing, the state of the economy, and the hordes taking over Western society. The west either fixes up sharpish or dies, Roosh is on the right side of the line, truthfully there is no other side, the other side is even further on the Roosh side of the line, it’s called Sharia, or even worse Genocide/death.

Julius Streicher
Julius Streicher
5 years ago
Reply to  BANGER

You think the rapes in India is something new? Just because the lyingpress writes about it now does not mean it’s something new. The marxist agenda is being pushed.

A.W.E.S.O.M.-O
A.W.E.S.O.M.-O
5 years ago

I work with a bunch of women. They’re actually talented, but I need a guy on my team for fucks sake.

FormrCanadian
FormrCanadian
5 years ago
Reply to  A.W.E.S.O.M.-O

I’ve never cared who I work with as long as the job is done properly and safely.
One can always hang around “with boys” after work. 😉

Marshallaw
5 years ago
Reply to  A.W.E.S.O.M.-O

Any hotties?

greyghost1
greyghost1
5 years ago
Reply to  Marshallaw

Yeah man what do they look like.

Julius Streicher
Julius Streicher
5 years ago
Reply to  greyghost1

Yeah bru. Tell us any 10pointers?

Conrad Stonebanks
Conrad Stonebanks
5 years ago
Reply to  A.W.E.S.O.M.-O

Talented at what? Following orders and backstabbing their colleagues?

Cadders
Cadders
5 years ago

I’ve done this thought experiment in the past, and even attempted to quantify the cost of women in the workforce in dollar terms. I’ve come to much the same conclusions as Roosh.

The problem comes when you ask yourself the next question; if modern women aren’t working in paid employment, if they are tending hearth and home…..what are they actually doing?

Because modern appliances and technology mean women would only have around 2 hours worth of tasks to perform each day (much less if they had no children). Would anybody – men or women – be able to cope with so much *enforced* leisure time?

Which then leads on to the next (much more disquieting) question; if women aren’t necessary in the working world, and aren’t much needed in the domestic sphere, are unwilling to offer men what men desire in a woman and aren’t keen on having children……what is the point of women?

This leads to a very dark place. But I sometimes wonder if the tenacity with which women cling to feminism is rooted, at an instinctive level, to the understanding that in reality it is not men who are no longer needed but women. Or more properly, women who don’t breed.

I fear our technology leaves us in a place where we have no choice but to get the women working. I can’t figure out how else to keep them occupied.

greyghost1
greyghost1
5 years ago
Reply to  Cadders

You comment scares the living hell out of a lot of people. And much is done to always avoid the thoughts you have displayed.
BTW this gay marriage thing and the surrogacy men are using to have children with out women is going to really sting the libs and feminist when the statistics of male headed families start to come out vs female headed families.

me
me
5 years ago
Reply to  greyghost1

What statistics? You think anybody will be allowed to collect statistics? Statistics are only allowed when they can be expected to match the PC line.

Cadders
Cadders
5 years ago
Reply to  me

Christ – ain’t that the truth.

I remember reading the statistics that something like 40% of households in the US now have a female breadwinner. This was part of the ‘End of Men’ and the ‘rise of women’ narrative.

When you unpicked the data, the vast majority of these female ‘breadwinners’ were single mums on benefits / alimony. A lot were working, but not making anything like enough to provide for themselves, let alone their kids. They were ‘breadwinning’ in the sense that they were ‘winning’ handouts from their ex-husbands or the government (i.e. mostly the mass of men).

When you looked at the data more closely the percentage of women genuinely breadwinning – i.e. supporting themselves, a husband and kids was exactly the same percentage as in the 1950s – 4%.

Cadders
Cadders
5 years ago
Reply to  greyghost1

TBH my comment scares me to a degree.

The relationship between men and women is naturally antagonistic. It seems to me that it has to be this way – the antagonism is what drives us as a species forward – hypergamy is there for a reason, after all.

But this antagonism needs to be kept broadly in balance for optimum results. Feminism has effectively co-oped modern tech to force the pendulum so far in women’s favour that the results are awful for the mass of men, terrible for children and now, is generating more and more miserable, dysfunctional women.

It will be interesting to see how this will swing back – and it will swing back. I have favoured the idea of some sort of reset, maybe a financial or social disruption of some kind – nothing Mad Max style, just a period of relative chaos and impoverishment on the way to the next overtly patriarchal society. Before the whole sorry rise of female empowerment eventually starts again.

But I wonder – just as women co-oped tech to swing the pendulum in their favour, will men co-op it in response? At this point an artificial womb and sex-bots / VR sex would replace almost all of modern women’s scant remaining value. And all these things are under development.

What scares me is how the pendulum would ever swing back from that.

DeCode
DeCode
5 years ago
Reply to  greyghost1

Maybe with the surrogate thing. But the statistics are in on Gay parents vs hetero. It nearly mirrors single motherdom, with the exception of far higher molestation rates.

greyghost1
greyghost1
5 years ago
Reply to  DeCode

I didn’t expect much from the fags being as with out pussy they simulate being women with irrational behavior and shrug off any masculinity. The point is they are males with children and normal masculine men don’t have to be childless to be MGTOW.

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  Cadders

Yes it’s interesting to note that it was the advent of domestic technology like vacuum cleaners and washing machines that freed women up to enter the workforce in the first place. Smash them all?

I think the stay-at-home wife model can still work, and keep a woman fully occupied, but only in cases where there are a large number of children. Even with domestic appliances, looking after 5 kids and a husband is always going to be a full time job.

Agree it’s not going to work with just 1 or no kids.

Cadders
Cadders
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Raising a large brood – properly – would most likely consume most of the mother’s free time. But the problem then is that very few men can provide enough to support a large family. Mostly because women entering the workforce en-mass has massively depressed the wages of everyone, men and women.

So we now find ourselves in a place where women having the ‘choice’ to work has been replaced by an obligation to do so, even as the overwhelming majority of the work they do is either unnecessary or required as a direct or indirect result of other women going out to work. It’s truly bizarre.

Far from this being the age of the ‘End of Men’, we are really living in a time when technology has rendered women’s traditional skillsets mostly superfluous and feminism has offered them little more than the ‘freedom’ to be wage slaves. And of course the freedom to destroy their remaining value (to men) by slutting it up. They dress it up as empowerment, but the huge numbers of women on psychiatric medication puts the lie to that.

At the root of this, I think, is most women’s inability to find contentment within themselves. Most men would be able to enjoy extra leisure time, filling it with hobbies and interests. Women, its seems to me, cannot find this place and soon need external stimulation / validation to stop becoming bored. Women with time on their hands will soon start causing mischief. Not directly, mostly via manipulating clueless men. Women cannot be trusted to police themselves, and most men are too blue-bill to understand this, so we have to find something to keep them occupied. For the moment work will have to do.

Maybe it’s just the market meeting demand; pointless jobs for pointless women, as it were.

Rude Man
Rude Man
5 years ago
Reply to  Cadders

What would women do if they weren’t working full time jobs? Stuff like:

1) raising kids

2) joining ladies gardening clubs

3) meeting for ladies luncheons

4) volunteer work

5) part time work

6) cleaning the house

7) gardening in the home

8) gardening in community flowerbeds and gardens

9) taking educational classes

10) working out

11) taking care of basic household finances

12) decorating

13) small home maintenance projects

14) attending community and civic events

15) community improvement projects

16) tutoring (their children and others)

17) grocery shopping

18) preparing healthful meals

19) giving or taking music lessons

20) hobbies

21) taking children or pets to Doctor’s appointments

22) tennis

23) working out

24) tanning or relaxing by the pool

25) read

26) use new information to improve the household and family

27) visiting and/or taking care of sick relatives or friends

28) waiting for the cable/plumber/repairman

29) see to teh emotional health of her family

30) maintain the social calendar

31) plan parties and events (birthdays, anniversary)

32) get involved in charities or charity fundraisers

33) laundry (wash. dry. fold. put away and repair when needed

34) sewing

35) make outfits and costumes for the kids

36) clothes shopping for herself and the kids (maybe husband too)

37) adhering to household budgets

38) plan vacations

39) evaluate and choose school situations

40) evaluate and choose summer camps and school break activities

41) be a den mother or other such involvement in children’s extracurriculars

42) drive kids to school

42) help choose extracurriculars such as sports, music, arts, acting etc for children and take them there

43) attend PTA meetings

44) make sure children are excelling in schools and other activites

….

The list could go on a long time. There is a lot to do for a stay at home Mom if she’s doing it right. And a lot of it can be fun and a lot of it rewarding. Women turning away from such a great situation is mainly a result of current MSM and school brainwashing.

DeCode
DeCode
5 years ago
Reply to  Rude Man

So basically women would do what they USED to do.

Just about every modern “stay at home mom” I know of, struggles to cook dinner once a day, never-mind clean the house, or all of the things you mentioned. Women now SUCK. They are almost beyond help. And when I see friends raise their “princess” daughters and encourage them in their complete ignorance of domestic duties – never mind actual adult responsibilities – I just face palm and wish there were regular rockets to some off world colony. Earth and by extension, mankind, is done…stick a fork in this bitch.

Snowden
Snowden
5 years ago
Reply to  Rude Man

Women’s group at church.

Taryn Lichenstein
5 years ago
Reply to  Rude Man

I was never so busy as when I was raising my kids as a SAHM. I was able to drop out of the full-time workforce when my second child was born (I have three kids), and I didn’t go back to work full-time until they were all grown. I have never felt that I in any way “missed out” by taking that time off, but rather viewed those years as a blessing in spite of the occasional hardships brought on by my decreased financial contribution to the household. A couple of times I was able to take on a part-time evening job so that he was home when I was working. We may not have been wealthy, but we never lacked the necessities. I am thankful that I had the opportunity to stay home with my kids and wouldn’t change that if I had to do it all over again. It’s always better for one parent to stay home (preferably mom) with the kids when they’re young, rather than warehousing them in some daycare center where they catch all manner of illnesses and learn bad manners and other undesirable habits. Even better is the home school option, which we also did for a time. Wouldn’t trade those years with my kids for anything in this world. <3

Taryn

DeCode
DeCode
5 years ago
Reply to  Cadders

I had this Epiphany when I actually looked at what the net benefit of my wife for 10+ years was. Except for birthing 3 awesome sons…NOTHING.

She IS NOT a good companion.
She IS NOT a good help mate.
She IS NOT a good partner.
She IS NOT an economical contributor (in fact she has been nothing but a constant net drain)
She IS NOT sexually satisfying

She IS little more than a adult sized, sometimes sex object, that more often than not conducts her self like an unruly, irresponsible, annoying, argumentative, child.

And even worse, she is actually better than most women I know, or have had relationships with!

Modern women are indeed worthless to society and men. Except for having babies, most are of no use what so ever.

I don’t say this as an indictment against woman as a species. I say this as a warning to modern western females. You are – by your actions – destroying everything that makes women tolerable or even attractive as a species!

Stop before it’s to late.

spicynujac
spicynujac
5 years ago
Reply to  DeCode

So… are you dumping her?

DeCode
DeCode
5 years ago
Reply to  spicynujac

HELL NAH!

Like the song says, It’s cheaper to keep her.

Dutch_pride
Dutch_pride
5 years ago
Reply to  DeCode

If she really was a pain in the ass you would divorce her. You have to ask yourself if you can live with this person, but the answer probably is: yes.

Dutch_pride
Dutch_pride
5 years ago
Reply to  DeCode

You divorced her? Because it sounds you don’t need her. Or is this a case of: “cheaper to keep her”…

DeCode
DeCode
5 years ago
Reply to  Dutch_pride

Like the song says…Cheaper to keep her!

Besides, Real talk, my “happiness” will gladly take a back seat to family stability for my kids. Frankly, once you have kids, it really isn’t about you and your spouse anymore. Anyone who thinks otherwise has been reading to much “it’s all about me” pseudo empowerment books and advice columns.

Rainbow fart sprinkles.
Rainbow fart sprinkles.
2 years ago
Reply to  DeCode

Maybe you should find a man to satisfy you.

spicynujac
spicynujac
5 years ago
Reply to  Cadders

The sick answer which hits me right in the face is consumerism. After the stay at home woman finishes cleaning the house and washing dishes, ironing the clothing and preparing the evening’s meal, what can she do but… shop!

Of course in the old days she would hone some skill or talent, paint, play the piano, or develop some other creative outlet, which would be not only rewarding for her, but provide pleasure to others, but you don’t see this much anymore.

Taryn Lichenstein
5 years ago
Reply to  spicynujac

I spent my mostly scarce free time teaching myself to crochet, painting the inside of the house, scrapbooking, reading, and working out. Then, when my Dad was diagnosed with cancer, it was my privilege to spend a huge amount of time getting him to his chemo, radiation, and doctor appointments. Then I started attending college part-time to complete my academic prerequisite requirements in order to prepare for application to nursing school. Once in a blue moon, I would take a nap….lol.

Taryn

Marshallaw
5 years ago

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3280032/Women-lost-cooking-skills-says-Michel-Roux-Jnr-MasterChef-says-mothers-don-t-pass-more.html

Michel Roux Jnr. Telling some home truths about women in the workforce.

“The former MasterChef star said working mothers of today and those before them had failed to acquire cooking skills because their lives now revolve around the office rather than their families.

‘There have been at least two generations of mothers no longer cooking at home and no longer passing on their basic cooking knowledge,’ he told Radio Times. ‘That is part of the problem.’

The knock-on effect is a growing dependency on what he calls ‘supermarket convenience foods’ which are often packed with additives, sugar and fat.”