How essential are women in the labor force? How critical are the job functions they perform when compared to men? I wondered about these questions while the American establishment uses the might of their bullhorns to persuade everyone that having women in higher education and corporate positions is absolutely essential for society. A simple thought experiment, however, can definitively show the opposite: women are not at all serving critical or important job functions at a level above men, and society is better of with them not participating full time in the labor force.

One way to approach this problem is to look at job statistic numbers that quantify how many women work in a particular field while also measuring the quality of labor they contribute. The problem with this method is that it doesn’t clue us in on how essential a woman’s production is. Women can be 20% of the electrical engineering force, for example, but such a number does not explain the contributions they’ve made to engineering and what would happen if that number was decreased or increased, especially when they are working alongside productive men who get the job done regardless of their failures.

I instead propose a simple thought experiment that will offer a clear and instinctual answer to even those who are firmly on the side of “equality” (i.e. the disempowerment of straight men). Imagine that a new law is about to be passed that forbids one particular sex from engaging in any type of employment or labor. Which of the following would lead to the greatest amount of economic harm to the country?

  • Men are forbidden from working, and are forced to tend the home
  • Women are forbidden from working, and are forced to tend the home

If women stopped working, there would be measurable harm to the economy overnight, because they make up a significant part of the service sector, especially in fields related to PR, marketing, education, waitressing, and human resources. The absence of women in most jobs outside of day care and nursing, however, could not only be replaced by a man, but one that is at least comparable to her ability, and not inferior to a significant degree, especially if you gave him the training and time to improve. The less communicative skill that men have to “read body language” and be a “people person” would be balanced out by massive productivity gains from a lack of office gossip, sexual harassment trainings, female sick days related to the menstrual cycle or irritable bowel syndrome, pregnancies, and distracting interoffice affairs.

Any economy that prevents women from working would in my estimation recover in 4-10 years once currently idle men are enticed by a sudden increase in job salaries and benefits along with the opportunity to work in male-only environments where their every statement is not placed under the microscope of the HR gestapo that is overeager to blacklist men for daring to make a politically incorrect statement.

On the other hand if men stopped working, there wouldn’t be enough talented and skilled women to take over their positions, even with dedicated training. You could give it a full generation of time, but it still wouldn’t provide enough women to cover even a minority of the positions lost, especially in STEM fields where strong analytical and logical ability is needed to even begin a rigorous education. The programs that have sprung up in the past two decades to encourage women to study fields they are not good at (science, computer programming) have barely caused their participation to increase, and not at all stopped women from dropping out entirely for reasons that can often be summarized as “YOLO” or “it was boring.”

In the scenario preventing men from work, manual labor jobs in construction could not be filled unless we dose women with testosterone. The safety of communities would decrease as only women became policemen and firemen. We’d have to increase the salaries of garbage men to over half a million dollars per year to entice women to work in them, possibly leading to diseases caused by bad sanitation not seen in centuries. A shortage of specialist surgeons would decrease the life expectancy rate. The all-female media would provide stories and news entirely based on feelings and emotions instead of facts. Any field you pick besides day care, nursing, and education would not be able to recover even 50% from a lack of men not working. Take a minute to try imagining all female farmers, truck drivers, and mechanics. A film depicting this scenario would start off as a comedy before quickly turning into doomsday horror.

No matter what society managed to do to train the all-female workforce, the economy would never recover, and this only concerns the economical effects. In terms of the societal effects, birth rates would certainly plummet or, if women insisted on having the occasional baby, there would be such a critical shortage of labor that basic functions of society wouldn’t be fulfilled. There would be food shortages so severe that two-hour Soviet bread lines would be seen as utopian.

While the door could be open to any female immigrant who was willing to plug the gaps, it’s unlikely they could fulfill even the most basic jobs above working as a bartender, because the issue with female employment is not one of quantity but quality. In spite of our best efforts to encourage women into science by giving them two legs up in the system, they still prefer easy majors that don’t involve any math, and even women who pursue medicine pick the easiest specialty like dermatology because she covets time off more than having to play real doctor by being on-call in the middle of the night when a patient has an emergency.

If men were prevented from working, the family unit would have to invert to something that has never been sustainably done in human nature. Women would have to sacrifice their natural role for a new role that wouldn’t come close to sustaining the economical or social basis of society.

Imagining all these scenarios in your head couldn’t lead to a more vivid result. Forbidding men from working would lead to a definite economic and demographic collapse of a nation and fast accession to third-world status while forbidding women from working would lead to only short-term economic harm while quickly increasing the demographic status of a nation that would then require less third-world immigrants. The likelihood of a cultural collapse would be eliminated. The economic basis of the economy would be strengthened in the long term as a tighter supply of labor prevents the corporate elite from keeping wages depressed while shuttling profits to overseas accounts, which has been steadily happening in America since the 1960’s.

Therefore a man’s labor, when measured collectively, is essential for society, while a woman’s labor, outside of the home, is not. While there are three or four women who have made great contributions to science and human resources over the past century, the absence of those women would not have led to a societal collapse, while the absence of all the men who made great contributions certainly would have. Extending this argument further, it doesn’t take much effort to conclude that besides working in niche fields, women are not needed to participate in the labor force on the level we currently have in America. Forcing themselves to do so is perhaps the greatest misallocation of resources that the Western world has seen since World War 2.

The results of this thought experiment displays the set of naturally given sex roles of the human species. Men are the mules of the species, with an analytical mind and focused determination that facilitates their constant labor. Women are the nurturers of the species, with a more sociable and cooperative mind that facilitates maintaining the hearth and raising children. I’m not making the argument that men are “superior” to women, but that men have strengths over women when it comes to the labor required to maintain at least the economic basis of any society that ensures its proper functioning and even survival. Women have strengths over a man when it concerns other duties that are just as essential to a society’s survival, but it is not working in offices and doing a man’s job to a fraction of the capability and competence that he could do with the same encouragement and training.

Civilization did just fine before women starting working en masse starting in the middle of the 20th century. Most advances since then have come from improvements in medicine, hygiene, transportation, and communication, all of which men were essential in creating while women primarily serve as the end users of those benefits instead of innovators who advanced them. The big steps backwards we’ve taken have been cultural, based on forcefully pushing women into roles that they are not naturally made for, all to benefit the parasitic elite who enjoy cheaper labor and easier population control thanks to diminished family and nationalist bonds.

Western society is actually engaging in a soft version of the thought experiment I’ve proposed, where women are encouraged to work and are given preferential treatment over men in the labor market while men are increasingly shamed and discouraged to work in a way where their merit and effort is rewarded.

Since the current society we now have is one that goes halfway towards the harmful experiment I’ve conducted here, that means we will see severe economical, societal, and cultural problems that would not have come about had we not inverted traditional roles by denying men the roles they naturally excel at while encouraging women in roles they naturally don’t excel at. Until this grotesque societal experiment ends, one that no historical civilization can vouch for, the only result of a nation that takes it on is a complete economical and cultural collapse.[culturewar]

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351 Comments

  1. T. Lightler October 21, 2015 at 9:14 am

    All ideas rightly to weaken the political power of females, will fail unless one thing occurs.

    Remove the vote from women. It was awarded by men, it shall be removed by men.

    1. BlueBot22 October 21, 2015 at 9:14 pm

      There is no way you could possibly vote the vote away from women…nor would any politician suggest such an unpopular idea.

      There would have to be a revolution for this to happen.

      1. zaqan October 21, 2015 at 10:05 pm

        Of course you can: get almost all men and a few women to vote for it. Incidentally, about 10-25% of women would vote away their voting rights.

      2. me October 21, 2015 at 10:06 pm

        Good luck persuading male shitlibs to vote our way…

      3. zaqan October 21, 2015 at 10:21 pm

        They will eventually. And there are always other methods.

      4. Reason And Believing October 22, 2015 at 4:22 pm

        You are right, It requires a method used to establish a people’s vote in the first place…….Revolution.

      5. xtc October 22, 2015 at 8:31 am

        On the contrary. The vote is being removed from everyone. We just maintain a charade to keep folks quiet.

      6. jbird669 October 22, 2015 at 10:52 am

        it’s already been removed. It’s been a charade for some time.

      7. BlueBot22 October 22, 2015 at 4:23 pm

        When do you think it turned into a charade?

      8. jbird669 October 23, 2015 at 10:22 am

        1913

      9. Fataess Neguh November 4, 2015 at 2:14 pm

        Ahh… the almighty Federal Reserve.

      10. Mayz August 8, 2017 at 8:23 pm

        I’ll go to war for my right to vote. Literally, I’d be willing to kill.

      11. Nightowl2548 October 25, 2017 at 8:27 pm

        Just get most men to agree that feminism has got to go and women have no business involved in voting or politics and the whole regime instantly becomes Illegitimate. It’s legitimacy will be the same as “Emperor” Maximillian of Mexico once the French pulled out.

    2. rationalize November 1, 2015 at 1:40 am

      Here’s the secret — societies where women are feminine, and men are masculine do not allow women to vote … actually, they don’t let anyone vote.

      Look at any non-democracy, any communist country (SE Asia / China), any war torn country (middle east) .. and you find none of the female degeneracy we have in the west.

      Democracy gave us divorce laws, child support, feminists, and promotion of rabid homosexuality.

      Dictators, communists and warlords are corrupt .. but they are real men.

      1. Hejsssaa November 10, 2015 at 11:18 am

        Many things are not going great In the West, the West lost. But the muslim World is fucked up even more!!!!!!!!!!

      2. Harris Naseem December 11, 2015 at 8:27 pm

        Well, we had Dick Cheney who essentially pushed Bush to attack Iraq, so US also had dictators in a way.

    3. Sangelia March 27, 2016 at 12:49 am

      Many men use their household member’s vote(s) to increase the vote to where they believe the votes go to.
      And that not only includes their significant other(wife, fiance, lover). But in some cases, their daughter(s)(the ones who live at home). As well as any sons they might have.

  2. TeamEdwardJace October 21, 2015 at 9:23 am

    Besides your post being biased and sexist in many areas (as you think Early childhood education is a female only job) if parents (not just women or females )feel they can’t work due to not being able to find quality care for their child , it could hurt the economy. It could possibly be the same for post secondary students who struggle for a school,work and life balance

    1. Tom Arrow October 21, 2015 at 9:36 am

      Oh, oh, she dropped the nuclear sexism bomb. Shield your eyes.

      Darling, if women stayed at home and took care of the kids, there would naturally be no need for kindergarden. Of course Roosh’s vision is a bit one-dimensional, but still, I can imagine a kid prefers to grow up knowing that it is loved by its mother and family than to be disposed of to a handful of bitches who may not even like or bond with it. I certainly would.

      The economic impact? Consider the economic impact of generations of males and females that grow up without a functional family and all the psychological damage from that. Such a person can hardly be called well-functioning or contributing to a healthy economy.

      1. chloe October 26, 2015 at 2:25 pm

        I agree with there being no need for kindergarden if women took care of their own kids. However, kindergarden is the least important job that women are heavily involved in and is a bit of a bad example. How about nursing, midwifery, obstetric care and gynecology? What about care of the elderly or disabled when relatives are not around or struggling? What about female police officers? Don’t women get searched, questioned and arrested by the police too? What about female prison wardens in women’s jails? What about female teachers and principals in girl’s schools? (I believe school should be gender segregated and having male teachers in girl’s schools and vice verse is very inappropriate) Women are badly needed for these jobs. I think to eliminate women completely from the workforce would have a negative impact on society. Women do a lot of hands on care work and work in the medical field. Without women these jobs would be lost and female patients would be at a huge disadvantage only having access to male doctors, gyneas and might have to be taken care of by a male nurse or have a man help them give birth or touch private parts of their body. I am somewhat of a traditionalist and believe that women with children should be at home, but I think there will always be women who marry later in life, remain childfree or are left at home with little to do when children are older. Society benefits from such women working in the jobs I mentioned.

      2. Tom Arrow October 26, 2015 at 2:31 pm

        You raise some good points. Yeah, why not. In my view, it would be enough to just let each girl choose what she really wants without pressuring her into some ideology and the outcome would likely be as you describe, apart from the occasional outlier.

        I am not a great fan of public schooling, though. On the other hand, it may be suitable for women, as they seem to like repetitive bullshit.

      3. Sangelia October 26, 2016 at 10:52 pm

        And what do you think most jobs are in many cases? Good portion are just repetitive bs. Be it advertising, janitorial, farmer, factory, etc…

      4. Tom Arrow October 26, 2016 at 11:35 pm

        Yeah, but some jobs still require you to use your brain a little.

      5. Sangelia October 27, 2016 at 8:27 pm

        Yep. Thing is, some positions in those various jobs do have the person using one’s brains. Like in a factory job. The supervising jobs like line lead, area supervisor, quality control, the crib(small parts warehouse room) all need the person to be able to do math as well as having the knowledge of how to lead folks. As well as how to do proper paperwork. Along with having the wisdom of how to deal with problems, both small and large.
        Thing is, women have been part of the workforce for thousands of years. A farm is a business. She has to be wise to know how and when to help her man out.
        Heck, even in the Bible it has where a woman has not only earned her own cash, ran her own business, but also deals in her own land ownership. All requiring brains.

      6. Tom Arrow October 27, 2016 at 8:33 pm

        Maybe. Is that the overwhelming majority of women tho?

      7. panait ciprian February 15, 2018 at 1:39 am

        female police officers are incapable of doing their job. there are tons of videos with women trying to imobilize men. 3 female cops cannot imobilize 1 skinny man. female wardens are the same unless in an all female prison.Female medics are mostly generalist and there are plenty of men to replace them easily. I agree somewhat with female genycologists being better but men are better doctors in all other medical fields. About female school teachers is a bad idea. As bad as having mixed gender classes before college. Boys and girls need different teaching strategies at that early age. If you mix classes either the boys or the girls would be at disadvantage. Or both.

      8. Sangelia March 27, 2016 at 12:52 am

        Actually kindergarten and preschool these days are used to teach kids what used to be taught in the elementary grades 1- 3. As in math, reading, etc…. So the teachers can concentrate in those grades in getting the kids ready for computer based education.

      9. Sangelia October 26, 2016 at 10:49 pm

        If you stop in a school today. 99% of the teachers on staff K – 12 are women. They are not just in kindergarten. Heck, women have been teachers for at least two centuries. Many of them were those in one room school houses.

    2. AlFromBayShore October 21, 2015 at 10:08 am

      Okay, the post is sexist and biased but your counterargument fails to address any of his points. Your examples are, at best, paltry and thin.

      1. TeamEdwardJace October 27, 2015 at 3:16 pm

        While I acknowledge that I could have perhaps described my examples better , I’d be wasting my time in conducting reseach for counterarugments . It would also be needlessly tilt consuming and moot to bother typing a better response to this article to address all of hid stupidity .

        This URL does better depict one of my points:http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/economic-impact-of-child-care/

        Furthermore, I was trying to point out that there are working parents and/orc who are also post-secondary students (e.g. Those trying to pursue undergrad degrees for a better career )may also experience similar challenges,

        They may feel they can’t work or pursue higher education for better jobs if there is no proper environments or caregiver to place the child is during the day

      2. TeamEdwardJace October 27, 2015 at 3:18 pm

        I think you could do a great job debunking roosh’a claim (with empiricial data or other resources to support your position when needed ) 🙂

      3. I'm a cat therapist October 28, 2015 at 3:41 pm

        Hey everyone, she said “empiricial” ! She must
        be educated and have a liberal arts degree! That means she’s right and you’re wrong!

        By the way darling, you misspelled empirical.

      4. TeamEdwardJace October 28, 2015 at 6:00 pm

        1.Yes I am educated and currently in the process of obtaining my degree (upon earning a diploma )which is not a liberal arts degree . Not every degree falls under that type . Futhernore by no means, did I suggest that by having a degrees makes you better or more intelligent than those who do not or right on every subject matter . I wax however raised by educated industrious parents and by many professionals who do not have archaic or bigoted beleifs(some even being religious ) my friends , family and colleagues also had a positive influence into shaping me into being a decent and human being who’s not a bigot with asinine logic . what I’ve learned from various literature and experience helps make the person I am too.

        2. I knew the definition of empirical data and what research studies and a basic comprehension of how they were before entering my degree program though it is being expanded upon as I am conducting a small research study with a partner for assignments.

        For the record , the spelling error you clearly felt the pathetic need to point out in a condescending manner , was a typo generated by autocorrect . But you can point out typos that anyone could . Do you want a gold star for your futile efforts?

    3. Marshallaw October 21, 2015 at 4:30 pm

      Dug any ditches recently?

      1. GetItGoing October 22, 2015 at 8:13 am

        … And boom. Point made!

      2. anne_sprinkler October 22, 2015 at 3:46 pm

        last week actually. manual labor isn’t really all that hard.

      3. Marshallaw October 22, 2015 at 5:28 pm

        Yea sure you did. Next thing you’ll be telling me you know how to work an excavator. Ha ha ha….. and manual labour is hard only if you’re doing it correctly.

      4. anne_sprinkler October 22, 2015 at 6:48 pm

        really? so if the hole i dig is as big as yours but you suffered and i didn’t, the work isn’t the same? sounds like you are doing it wrong, not me.

        i haven’t needed an excavator, but if it is like most of the machines i’ve used it takes about an afternoon to get the hang of things. this isn’t fucking rocket science, if you are a strong and capable human it doesn’t really matter what you have between your legs, you can just build shit. it’s not hard, and it isn’t a big deal, and i’m not even a dyke.

      5. anne_sprinkler October 22, 2015 at 7:04 pm

        really? so if we both dig a hole the same size and you suffer and i don’t then somehow i did it wrong? i’m not sure that checks out. if you actually know what you are talking about you know as well as i do that it is all about pacing, how you lift, and protecting your back.

        as for the excavator, no, i haven’t had the need to run one yet (next year though, when i put a pond in) but if it’s like any other machine i’ve used it will probably take about an afternoon to get the hang of. this isn’t rocket science and it isn’t a big deal, and you know it.

        shit, and i’m not even a dyke. lolololol

      6. Marshallaw October 23, 2015 at 9:42 am

        I won’t be suffering if I dig a hole the same size, thing is I’ll dig mine and I’ll dig yours too in the time it takes you to dig one. So you feel no strain on any muscle in your body after digging a ditch? Ha ha, not a clue, whatever about your back your arms and legs should feel the strain. Pacing? I ain’t got time to pace….. too much else to do.
        Take you an afternoon? Maybe but you’ll end up doing a shit job. Anyone that knows anything about machinery knows you need 100’s of hours of experience to become proficient.
        Why don’t you have man to dig your hole? Oh……

      7. anne_sprinkler October 23, 2015 at 12:37 pm

        is the “oh” supposed to imply that i don’t have a man? sorry, try again.

        you can barely string those words together in a cohesive form but it seems like now the speed at which this imaginary ditch we are digging is a factor too…interesting. except that it isn’t because pacing is important in everything, so while you may have gone faster, maybe even dug 2 (because after all you’ve turned into quite the hero here), but i’ll still get a ton of “too much else to do” done too even if i take my time. i can out work all of the men on my team which is how i ended up in charge of them in the first place. it’s the same reason i don’t need 100’s of hours to become proficient with a machine i need for one day to dig exactly one shitty pond.

        it’s amusing how fragile you all are, so delicate, so very easily threatened and bruised. so butt hurt over a real ditch i dug and 2 fake ones you imagined you did. lololololol.

        but you go on and get the last word now, i know you need it, and i have stuff to build and a bunch of guys to boss around while you cry about women on the internet.

        see ya!

      8. Femghazi October 22, 2015 at 7:10 pm

        Hey troll, how you doing? Dig those ditches day in and day out for 40 years and get back to us, till then, shut ya trap!

      9. anne_sprinkler October 22, 2015 at 7:35 pm

        well i still got 20 to go but so far so good.

      10. TeamEdwardJace October 27, 2015 at 2:44 pm

        Did your brain (that’s smaller than a peanut ) hurt after you formulated that asinine reply?

      11. Femghazi October 27, 2015 at 3:58 pm

        Wow, my reply must have given you the best VTs yet! You’re welcome!

      12. yup November 9, 2015 at 8:19 am

        Woman’s definition of Manual Labor: “Oh jeez i’m so tired from this…Let me see if I can find a Strong young Man who will do it for me..”

      13. orlean November 15, 2015 at 7:20 pm

        And what only serves to prove a point is that men are dumb enough to be manipulated into digging the aforementioned hole.

      14. Sangelia March 27, 2016 at 12:54 am

        You should have seen the factory where I worked. The women worked harder than the men at the same jobs. Be they assembly, paintshop, silk screening, etc….

      15. panait ciprian February 15, 2018 at 1:43 am

        Sangelia maybe but who produced more results? If I can only carry 5 kg and someone else can carry 10 kg it is logical I would work twice as hard for the same result. Does this mean my work values more?

      16. Sangelia February 16, 2018 at 7:11 pm

        Not always panait..

        Plus, in the factory I worked in. If something heavy needed to be moved. Like the Gaylord boxes or even the finished products ready to send to the customers. Both genders used what is known as a pallet jack. Or what ever was used in a certain section of the factory. Like in Silk Screening. They used metal racks to hold the parts as they were drying.

        The bosses didn’t care if you were male or female when it came to dealing with heavy things. You did your job as they required it to be done as.

        Many of our parts were shipped to us in what is known as a ‘gaylord’ box. Many times the support areas like Paintshop, Silk Screening, Metalizing would also use them to store the parts they had finished in them.

        The term Gaylord box is commonly used in the shipping industry and has evolved over the years from being just one type of box to being a term that encompasses a range of box products.

        Simply put, a Gaylord box is basically a bulk-size corrugated box. Traditionally, Gaylord boxes are large or bulk size and allow for the shipment of products in a large, single container or on a pallet. Normally about 3 feet by 4 feet and about 3 feet tall.

        Most of the work like working on the actual assembly lines were mainly done by the women. Be it wire connections, quality control, packing the signs into the individual boxes for shipping, etc. And depending on the item being built, Every line had a base quota to fill.

      17. panait ciprian February 17, 2018 at 4:15 am

        My point was that women and men are different due to testosterone. Men are stronger and can resist stress and anxiety and harsh work conditions much longer than women due to how this hormone affects the human body. As a result women will work more to obtain the same quota. It is mathematical. Now if you say that women produced more than men at the end of the day I would say it is possible but highly improbable. That would mean the men were slacking off

      18. Dr Anon April 23, 2018 at 3:45 pm

        It is certainly possible the women did more work than men on any given day. What isn’t possible is for those women to recover as quickly or maintain that volume of production for as long as a man would be able to. It isn’t like men have a little more testosterone; they’ve got 20x the testosterone and all the physical benefits that come with it. One would have to possess a head full of mush to think women can perform manual labor jobs with the same vigor as men.

    4. Femghazi October 22, 2015 at 7:08 pm

      Gosh, wow, just wow! I can’t even…

    5. spicynujac October 23, 2015 at 1:57 pm

      Agreed–families with children would be much better off under the care of a parent, not a stranger.

      1. TeamEdwardJace October 27, 2015 at 2:42 pm

        Do you that once the child and parent or caregivers becomes familiar with quality early childhood educators, that the ECEs are not strangers to them ? Second When in quality learning environments, that children benefit

    6. Titan000 October 23, 2015 at 8:49 pm

      Sexism is being realistic dear.

      1. TeamEdwardJace October 27, 2015 at 2:38 pm

        The pruning of your brain neurons must have gone horrendously awry if you truly subscribe to that dogma

    7. panait ciprian February 15, 2018 at 1:30 am

      TeamEdward I hated that SOB and wanted him to die. Also I am sorry biology is sexist but if we men could bear children and produce milk we would not need women anymore. period.

  3. Tom Arrow October 21, 2015 at 9:29 am

    Any economy that prevents women from working would in my estimation recover in 4-10 years once currently idle men are enticed by a sudden increase in job salaries and benefits along with the opportunity to work in male-only environments where their every statement is not placed under the microscope of the HR gestapo that is overeager to blacklist men for daring to make a politically incorrect statement.

    You sound like a politician. Is there any reason to consider this an informed guess or did you just intuit that number?

    1. Harris Naseem December 11, 2015 at 8:46 pm

      Well, I think he has a point. Like the menstrual leave and cramp laws for women do cut into the time spent doing work. If say Boeing decides to have a 60% of their 15000 workforce be female who on average make $25 an hour with an average of 5% of the female workforce leaving for menstrual “cramps” and pregnancies, then you would lose (based on if the leave pay is $200/day) approx $3,000,000 per month (or $360,000,000 per year). This is assuming that exactly %5 or 750 employees that make $48,000 a year leave every single month at the same time for the same timeframe.

      That is essentially losing a 787-1000 every year on already low profits made on the 787, which could lead to further quality control issues along with a possible end of the Company as we know it within 15 years (+/- 2 years), having further “domino” effect on their partnered manufacturers due to delays in productions that will arise due to that minority leaving every month. On the other hand, if 60% were male, chances are less likely to be that catastrophic to the firm as men don’t need to leave for menstrual cramps or paternity leave as they are the breadwinners of a household. Periods are just that, periods. They are essentially natures way of giving females breaks for child caring.

      1. Tom Arrow December 11, 2015 at 9:09 pm

        Cool. But you made a calculating mistake there. 750 * 48,000 is 36,000,000, not 360,000,000.

      2. Harris Naseem December 12, 2015 at 12:17 am

        My bad, I was off by a zero 😛

      3. Tom Arrow December 12, 2015 at 12:40 am

        No big deal with such tiny sums, never worry.

      4. Harris Naseem December 12, 2015 at 12:22 am

        My bad, misread my calculator 😛 But you got the point, 750 workers being paid 36,000,000 for doing jack shit is some serious cash where the end user and the suppliers will then have to take the burden of the losses incurred. That being said, it can vary, depending on how the situation unfolds in regards to the feminine issues that may arise as theoretically all 60% of the workforce can have cramps in one month and cause a surge of cash deficit in Boeing’s and affiliated manufacturer’s accounts….. Bottom line, women are a burden on the workforce in that sense…

      5. Tom Arrow December 12, 2015 at 12:40 am

        Let us not talk around the issue: Women are shit.

      6. Harris Naseem December 12, 2015 at 12:42 am

        Exactly, but I just needed to put some mathematical analysis out there so any feminist reading it can go and cry a river….

      7. Sangelia October 26, 2016 at 10:54 pm

        Actually I would say that you meant a feminazi.

      8. Harris Naseem February 10, 2017 at 1:07 am

        same thing. Feminism is only about putting women above men.

      9. Sangelia February 10, 2017 at 8:11 am

        True feminism is putting men and women as being equal to each other.
        feminazism is putting women above men..
        There are extremists in any group. and those who are feminazis are the extremist.
        Iit is the extremists that are in that group that gives that group it’s bad name. Be it gender, religion, etc.

      10. disappointed January 4, 2016 at 9:04 am

        Wow. I just love this freaking world.

      11. Michelle Green February 13, 2016 at 11:56 am

        Just stick to screwing other men then and leave women be if you despise them so much

      12. Tom Arrow February 14, 2016 at 4:09 am

        Witty.

      13. Haha March 16, 2017 at 8:24 pm

        Your mother beat you? It’s okay hunny 😂

      14. Tom Arrow March 17, 2017 at 12:28 pm

        Fuck off.

      15. Sangelia October 27, 2016 at 8:31 pm

        What you refer to as menstrual laws is a set of religious laws for a group of folks.
        There are no laws set by the govt about such things. Heck, for cramps, most gals just take a aspirin and go about their day.

  4. jzak95 October 21, 2015 at 9:39 am

    Roosh, you keep writing articles like this, and you are absolutely hitting the nail on the head. But what do you propose we do about it? Do we fight back, run away or simply give up hope? What should younger guys like me do? How do we fight back in a culture that is so far up the leftist narrative’s ass it will likely never right itself again? What point is there to running away if by the time guys my age become financially independent traditional nations have become hardcore carousel nations? How do we move forward as men, especially younger men, in a world that is becoming incredibly more hostile and a future more bleak by the day?

    1. Tom Arrow October 21, 2015 at 9:48 am

      For a few moments in the past months, I considered joining ISIS or something like that. I do not see a point trying to rectify the current state. What for, anyway? The law is a mere symptom of the character of most of today’s men. You can not change a law without changing the people first. So that is what you would need to do first.

      Joining a strong nation would appal me for religious reasons and for having to submit to their vision of god and their rules. But at least that may have a future. This weakling nation is bound to be eaten up eventually.

      On the other hand, one may just wait until the global super state falls apart and then join the strongest gang. Like with the fall of the Roman Empire, as I heard about it, it is not really so that everything just ends, rather the big thing fades away and the big nation splits into little territories.

      1. jzak95 October 21, 2015 at 10:20 am

        I agree with just about everything you say. Personally, I feel that if Donald Trump wins the presidency we have a chance, albeit a very small one, of at least beginning to turn things around in this country. However, I’m not getting my hopes up. I believe the fate of the United States will fall into one of two categories:
        1) Conquest by Islam
        2) Will split into smaller countries (Likely the east and west coasts will form liberal nations and the states in the middle of the country will become a more conservative country)
        Either way, I am convinced that I will witness the collapse of western civilization in my lifetime, and by the time I am in my seventies the United States will have completely ceased to exist.

      2. Tom Arrow October 21, 2015 at 10:30 am

        You may be right. I try to see it in the good light: Life honors me by being able to be a part of something as epic as the death of the society that I am a cog of. Who knows, maybe that is what I signed up for in my ‘soul contract’.

      3. jzak95 October 22, 2015 at 10:18 am

        Or that. Perhaps it’s for the best.

      4. spicynujac October 23, 2015 at 2:04 pm

        The more I travel, the more differences I see across America, the more it baffles me how it is able to operate as a single nation.

        America is a large enough behemoth that one man can no longer change things. Trump is no angel, but even if he were, he would lack the power to defeat all the corporate interests and power elites who have taken over the reigns of power in this country.

        Re: Islam — I really don’t see this happening. It’s the current worry, like killer bees from Africa were in the 90s. The trend is moving away from religious and superstitious beliefs, and if governments didn’t fixate on it so much, I believe the movement would die a faster death. After all, the ISIS movement in the ME is less a religious movement than a social / political one.

        Re: Splitting into multiple nations: while that would be an improvement, I don’t see the problems of this country being liberal vs. conservative. The overarching problems I have with our government and society are much larger than liberal or conservative, and I can’t say I would care much which of the two I lived in. The issue is much bigger than this.

      5. Harris Naseem December 11, 2015 at 8:56 pm

        Islam ain’t the issue, the Issue is that the US funds Wahhabis who are against nations that don’t want US Hegemony in the region….. You call Gulf Arabs “Muslim” when they enslave non-Arab Muslims to make those shiny buildings in Dubai? Please cry to the KKK… BTW, The Wahhibis fund Feminism, so give it a second before bringing prepositions about Islam to the discussion.

      6. Guy Chauhan October 21, 2015 at 12:26 pm

        “You can not change a law without changing the people first. So that is what you would need to do first.”

        That is a great insight. this’s what we should be working on, correcting the social realities. keep sharing (Y)

      7. Tom Arrow October 21, 2015 at 12:30 pm

        In the end, you really only have to wonder why you believe that bullshit and you will know why most do. Now, how many people watch parliament sessions for entertainment? Exactly. It is the media that really rules.

      8. Skoll October 21, 2015 at 3:23 pm

        You and I have the same thoughts.

        Our whole ‘civilization’ is rotten to the core and collapse is the only desirable (and eventual) outcome. Until then, us men are merely wasting our prime masculine years of our youth. We were designed to be warriors, not some wage slaves in a feminist society.

      9. Tom Arrow October 21, 2015 at 4:31 pm

        Concerning warriors, I saw the movie ’13 Assasins’ yesterday. The new one. Absolutely love it.

      10. zaqan October 21, 2015 at 10:31 pm

        *knock knock* Partyvan

      11. Tom Arrow October 21, 2015 at 10:35 pm

        yes?

      12. Rhyme Or Reason October 23, 2015 at 1:54 am

        “rather the big thing fades away and the big nation splits into little territories.”

        Then if we really wanted to be on the same page, we’d all start migrating towards a single region, like the white nationalists always talk about the Pacific North west.

      13. Tom Arrow October 23, 2015 at 2:29 am

        Yeah, makes sense.

      14. Rhyme Or Reason October 23, 2015 at 2:41 am

        since there are no real plans for this sort of thing, means we probably have a ways to go

      15. Tom Arrow October 23, 2015 at 2:42 am

        What do you mean?

      16. Rhyme Or Reason October 23, 2015 at 2:51 am

        maybe i’m going off the rails a bit, but lets think about this.

        we all know that we can’t “vote” our way out of this mess. It’s far too late for that, even if Trump were to get elected. the cultural rot has progressed to a point where democracy is ruined for generations to come. Politics is downstream of the culture…and once people are debased to the degree they are now, there’s no reversing it. Maybe if they all “accept jesus” or some shit but that aint happening, obviously.

        It really comes down to relativism and spiritual nihilism. Nobody cares about the loftier concepts, experiences, and lessons being human has to offer. No, it’s all about pop science and pseudo intellectual nonsense to make them feel like part of the in crowd. The modern human is spiritually bereft.

        What i’m trying to say is, there is no fixing this.

        So what’s the logical next step? Do we just live out our lives, fucking random chicks, getting drunk and wait for the collapse? If so, fine. But if we really wanted to do something we would set up networks with the purpose of real resistance. Note i said resistance and not activism.

      17. Tom Arrow October 23, 2015 at 3:22 am

        Seriously, dude, the more free my mind gets, the more I love the idea of actual resistance.

        I had a dream tonight, where I swam in a river that was occupied by stronger guys than me. One of them put me under water. I thought he did not care further and tried to dive away. But he kept after me and that is when I realized how intimate a fight really is. He did not let go while I was approaching my last breath. I resisted the idea of drowning, but when I woke up, I think I integrated the experience. A fight to the death. A worthy way for a man to die.

        For now, I am content with living my own life, though, and eventually getting to the point of fucking random chicks.

      18. spicynujac October 23, 2015 at 2:00 pm

        What about joining a weak nation? You know a place where you are just free to be you, and the state doesn’t have any overwhelming power to spy on your communications, drone you, or spend significant resources harassing you? I have not yet travelled enough to make recommendations but Costa Rica with its lack of military, good economy, and environmental preservation outlook (25% of the country is preserved wildlife) seems like a good choice for me if I were moving today. People want to attack strong nations. Rome made itself a target for hundreds of years until it was finally brought down. But who wants to invade Switzerland? Not even Hitler did. He went straight for powerful Russia.

      19. Tom Arrow October 23, 2015 at 2:16 pm

        It is a somewhat charming idea. But a land that never goes to war seems like a place of people who are not used to the pleasures of warfare and violence. Just conjecturing, of course, but I am a warrior and rebel at heart and I wonder if that would not be a bit boring. In the end, it is not about the nation. It is about the people that you are going to surround yourself with.

      20. spicynujac October 23, 2015 at 2:18 pm

        Go play an aggressive soccer match with the locals. To me that’s more aggressive and violent in a masculine way than playing drone killing video games from a CIA base in the desert.

      21. Tom Arrow October 23, 2015 at 2:22 pm

        Hah. Yeah, drones are boring. I am more into intimate face-to-face combat. Frankly, technological warfare takes all the joy out of it. I like sparring. Someday, I will hopefully fight in a cage.

      22. spicynujac October 23, 2015 at 2:26 pm

        I haven’t been to asia, but with all the samurai stuff and kung fu temples and ninja movies, they seem to value the warrior class. I would recommend planning a trip to the orient… join one of those ninja training groups like they had in You Only Live Twice.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpSpWqbP5yc

      23. Tom Arrow October 23, 2015 at 2:32 pm

        Haha. I read a book about Muay Thai. For some in Thailand, it translates as honor. Just imagine the joy of being in a fight restaurant for dinner, seeing a dangerous man and respectfully challenging him without shame. What a great and wise tradition.

    2. Roosh October 21, 2015 at 12:39 pm

      These are difficult questions I’m trying to answer myself.

      1. pbw11 October 21, 2015 at 1:19 pm

        Roosh you are doing a fantastic job so far — really making people think.

      2. ShepardSays October 22, 2015 at 3:01 am

        You gotta understand first how women got enticed into the workforce and how they’ve been kept in the workforce for decades now.

        The first mass hiring of female employees was by IBM during the Great Depression. Guess what they did? They got a government contract for the IBM 77 Collator for collecting data for Social Security. Thus setting us on the Welfare path. More women got into the workforce and were hired into ‘Rosie the Riveter’ job by factories with government contracts.

        http://www.wired.com/2012/06/how-social-security-saved-ibm/

        But after the war most of those women either returned home or pursued office jobs. Not necessarily jobs men would have wanted considering they were lower paying than working labor jobs or on the factory line.

        By the 1970s, especially after the Nixon Shock and the 1973 Oil Embargo, the U.S. economy started to see another slow down with inflation. Paul Volcker was brought into the Fed Reserve under Jimmy Carter and raised interest rates to 19%.

        This effort to put the economy back on track saw a need to monetize more labor hours. This is where women in droves entered the workforce again. The 1970s feminism was a push to monetize female labor hours.

        “Back in the 1970s during one of those periodic debates about full-employment, legendary humorist Art Buchwald proposed a sure fire way to double the GDP and do it instantly. That was in the time that most women had not yet entered the labor force and politically incorrect discussion was still permitted on the august pages of the Washington Post.

        Said Buchwald, “Pass a law requiring all men to hire their neighbor’s wife!” That is, monetize all of the cleaning, cooking, washing and scrubbing done every day in American households and get the monetary value computed in the GDP; and, in the process get homemakers factored into the labor force and their contribution to the economy’s real output in the labor utilization rate.”

        Female labor hours have long been used to hide the real employment rate of the country. Every economist will say World War II lowered the statistical unemployment rate. But this is not true. It was women entering the workforce aided by government all along.

        “At the present time, there are 210 million adult Americans between the ages of 16 and 68—to take a plausible measure of the potential work force. That amounts to 420 billion potential labor hours, if we accept the convention that all adults are at least theoretically capable of holding a full-time job (2,000 hours/year) and pulling their share of society’s need for production and work effort.

        By contrast, during 2014 only 240 billion hours were actually
        supplied to the US economy, according to the BLS estimates. Technically, therefore, there were 180 billion unemployed labor hours, meaning that the real unemployment rate was 42.9%, not 5.5%!

      3. Sangelia October 26, 2016 at 10:58 pm

        Actually women have been part of the workforce for centuries, if not thousands of years.
        Be they teachers, shopgirls, and the biggest field of amount of women working was in the domestics. As maids, cooks, governesses, etc, as in working for a noble and or rich families.

    3. Simon October 21, 2015 at 1:43 pm

      2 choices as I see it:
      – leave and go to somewhere like Russia or Japan
      – make yourself the best man you can be. Read old books written by great thinkers. Lift weights. Unplug from mainstream media. Stop eating junk food. Strive for financial independence. Stop chasing low quality sluts. Be moral and honourable. Inspire other men around you to do the same. Create communities based on masculine ideals with like-minded individuals.

      The second option is by far the harder. But if you don’t want to leave your country it’s the only way to create change, from the ground up.

      1. FrmCanadian October 21, 2015 at 2:05 pm

        1. I’ve left Canada 7+ years ago, moved to Russia and then to Ukraine, never looked back or regretted my decision for 1 second.

        2. Making myself the “best man I could be” didn’t work in Canada. All Canadian women dream about selling themselves to the highest male bidder on a dating market. I’ve read a lot of books and I’m well educated, I’m a lot into sports, I teach water sports in fact and I’m an athlete myself, I’ve never followed any mainstream media, I’ve never eaten much of a junk food, I’ve had some money and savings (guess not enough by North American standards) and I’ve always dared to differ, to have my own opinion, to stand up and be counted and to lead by example.
        The problem is that Canada as a society does not need those who are different, who dare to be a personality with an own opinion and who care to lead by example! Canada needs robots, slaves and puppets, controlled and manipulated by the mainstream media!

        I’d say that Canada and USA are indeed lost. You ain’t gonna change them no matter how hard you are gonna try.
        Thus packing one’s bags and getting the hell out of North America is the only viable option left.

      2. DeCode October 21, 2015 at 5:58 pm

        why do guys keep trumpeting Russia and Japan. Are you that ill informed. BOTH of those countries are far worse for males.

        In Japan your only option at freedom is to be a otaku (their version of a basement dwelling kneckbeard) or a hard core MGTOW who does not interact with females at all…or if you’re ‘bitch-made’ a herbivore.

        The second option IS viable, but the GOV is already hard at work with legislation to force men to marry or loose valuable resources through fines and taxes for being single. Plus, the women kinda suck. They are only promiscuous and free with foreigners. They treat their own men like sh#t once married…generally.

        In Russia the system IS broke. As a man all you have to look forward to is hard living, hustling and dealing with hypergamous women on a level we can only imagine. Never mind the system is OPENLY corrupt from top to bottom. I guess a little peace can come from knowing that it’s an “blatant and open” type of corruption.

      3. spro23 October 21, 2015 at 8:32 pm

        what are all the bachelor taxes you can think of?
        obamacare, divorce laws, co-habitating laws……I’m trying to make a list of taxes on single men

      4. DeCode October 22, 2015 at 7:50 pm

        Social security and medicare are two big ones in the States that are often over looked. Also singles do not get a tax credit like married couples.

      5. Anonymous October 22, 2017 at 12:05 am

        You do realize that it effects not just men that are single, right…

      6. jzak95 October 21, 2015 at 8:14 pm

        Don’t see why both choices can’t work in conjunction.

      7. John Galt October 22, 2015 at 1:12 am

        Japan.. You need to marry to stay or have legit skills in demand to get PR. You will always be treated as a foreigner and will be stuck teaching English for peanuts. Wages are low and being a foreigner isn’t anything special there anymore. No more auto-lays with quality women.

      8. me October 22, 2015 at 9:52 am

        Depends where in Japan. Stray from the major cities, and foreigners are still an exotic sight for locals.

        This is even more true in China. Near the coastal trade hubs you’re just another bloody foreigner. But in smaller cities deeper inland you’re a minor rockstar just for being white.

      9. Simon October 22, 2015 at 3:48 am

        To clarify, I wasn’t touting option 1 as a free lunch – anyone that thinks he can turn up somewhere in the world with little money and employable skills, having not worked on himself, and be entitled to hot women is lazy and delusional.

        The fact remains however that the 2 countries I mentioned are more traditional societies with less degeneracy (for now) and higher quality women, Japan especially so being still essentially patriarchal in nature. They represent a better option to try and start a family than the West, if that’s what you want to do.

      10. DeCode October 22, 2015 at 7:59 pm

        NO NO NO, talk to a few guys who have dealt with REAL relationships with Japanese women, or have been married to one. Also, ask a Japanese man what marriage is like in japan and the culture and laws supporting it.

        Japan is just as bad if not worse than the US in this regard. In fact the US is heading in the direction of japan.

        http://www.returnofkings.com/38058/the-ugly-reality-of-dating-japanese-women

        http://www.city-data.com/forum/relationships/1085755-american-men-married-japanese-women.html

      11. Simon October 23, 2015 at 3:34 am

        “NO NO NO” – you sound like a petulant child throwing a tantrum. I would suggest attempting to communicate in a fashion more befitting a grown man.

        You first assume I do not know anyone who has a relation with Japanese women – I do. I have also been to Japan myself.

        You secondly then cite 2 pieces of poorly written anecdotal evidence as “proof” of your point of view. On that city data forum, even the first respondent tears down the OPs post.

        By the way: putting RANDOM words in your PUERILE rant in CAPS doesn’t make it ANY more correct.

    4. me October 21, 2015 at 2:18 pm

      Whatever needs to be done, it will require a lot of manpower to pull off. Right now we need to wake up as many men as possible to the red pill truth. When the time is right and our forces are strong, there will be a way towards victory.

      Men never give up hope. Defeatism is for women.

    5. Quintus Curtius October 21, 2015 at 9:04 pm

      At this point, you need to be doing the following:
      1. Identifying the problem.
      2. Identifying who is responsible for the problem.
      3. Keeping your knife sharp and your mind prepared for anything.
      When the time is right, you will know what to do.

      1. Julius Streicher October 22, 2015 at 4:42 am

        We all know where the road leads, to the ‘brothers of the cut’. Oy vey!

    6. rationalize November 1, 2015 at 1:53 am

      Take the Red Pill .. and treat western women like the vapid sluts they are.

      While we all have ideals of family life — a house, kids, 9 to 5 job — this is no longer a good deal for the western man.

      The odds are she will get fat. She will become whiny and irritating as she ages. She will financially zero-you-out when you call her out on her sloth.

      So what can a young man do in the west?

      Take that Red Pill .. Abandon your naive biological intuition of the ideal family life (yes, it is hard to do).

      *Recognise that the family court system hates you, and is built to harm you, because you are a man*

      So what can you do? You can coax them, humour them, bang them, and ditch them -before they can claim two year co-habitation de-facto relationship status and take your wealth-.

      Western women have little more to offer than regular vaginal access.

      To quote Day Bang — “While I’m not saying you should hate women, my initial impression of them is that they’re lubricated holes that exist mostly for a man’s sexual pleasure.”

      That is seeing the world for what it really is.

  5. Tom Arrow October 21, 2015 at 9:40 am

    Roosh, I do think that your ideas are a little too extremist. Here is why.

    Why should all women stop to work? As long as a woman has no man, there is nothing for her to do. And what about the mentally ill, fat, deformed, ugly women whom no man will want to marry? Will you force men to marry those? I think that work, especially in the female professions, is quite a suitable thing for those who are not occupied with being a wife.

    Yeah, I am being somewhat cruel, but it is what it is. I would prefer a world where women can indeed work, but with the limitation that nobody forces men to employ them. And how would that work? Well, you would – in the first place – need men who are willing to stand behind their words. You would need to reeducate men.

    This kind of legislatin will never pass in the near future. It is a ponderable concept for the intellectually brave, but it is not something you can easily sell to the masses. And somebody has to vote that shit in.

    Now, nothing against your vision of a perfect world, but you would be more convincing if you were a bit more realistic.

    1. me October 21, 2015 at 1:56 pm

      He didn’t say that all women should stop to work, but rather compared two hypothetical scenarios: only women and only men working – to show which is more essential to a functioning society.

      1. Tom Arrow October 21, 2015 at 1:59 pm

        Fair enough. Got carried away by the headline.

      2. me October 21, 2015 at 2:08 pm

        Ha! You’re right, the headline is misleading. Then again, clickbait titles are the bread and butter of ad supported websites, so I stopped paying attention to them years ago.

  6. Theodore October 21, 2015 at 9:48 am

    We’re at the crossroads and yes I think the collapse is near. We have seen how transhumanism is pushed by corporations and the media, especially with younger generations. With tech, women could be physically “improved” therefore capable of doing hard men work. But then, if we’re heading towards more tech, robots will do our work so we can all relax and get fat. We will no longer need engineers, scientists and builders for our cities or at least just a few (men of course). That’s the kind of nightmare they’re preparing for us. The western world is dumbing down, a person with an average IQ today could become a genius tomorrow. We have already seen how mediocrity is hailed today, the inept is king, we’re accustomed to very very low standards. They’re all symptoms of a feminized society and it’s a f….. disaster. Are we past the tipping point ? Is it too late to reverse the insanity ?

    1. advancedatheist October 21, 2015 at 10:44 am

      Arthur C. Clarke in one of his novels published back in the 1970’s portrays as a utopia a technologically advanced society with settlements on several planets and on the moons of the gas giant planets like Saturn’s Titan, full of racially mixed, mostly bisexual people. He didn’t anticipate that the browning of the world would result in lowering the median IQ below the threshold necessary for creating these technological advances and then maintaining them afterwards.

      1. Marshallaw October 21, 2015 at 4:23 pm

        Wasn’t he a paedo?

      2. Brutus Maximus October 22, 2015 at 10:21 am

        Clarke is connected to CIA, that’s a fact.

    2. advancedatheist October 21, 2015 at 10:50 am

      I have an uncomfortable relationship with “transhumanism” these days. Guess who coined the word “singularitarian”? Ray Kurzweil credits me with that in an end note in The Singularity Is Near.

      I also coined the verb “to cryocrastinate” around the same time, and now I’ve seen both of these neologisms coming into use.

  7. ActionJackson23 October 21, 2015 at 9:55 am

    “To the woman he said, ‘I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.’

    To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’ “Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.” — Genesis 3:16-19

    And so it has been ever since, until feminism convinced women to unwittingly take on men’s curse as their own.”

    1. Tom Arrow October 21, 2015 at 9:57 am

      Seems kinda ironic in the age of McDonalds.

    2. zaqan October 21, 2015 at 11:28 pm

      Isnt it funny how men stupidly listened to women back then too? What could go wrong

      1. DeCode October 22, 2015 at 8:15 pm

        Agreed. I always chuckle to myself when I hear ‘Red Pill guys who hate on the bible. It is outlined repeatedly – in the Old and New testament – that a woman’s place is to serve man…period. And a woman who is operating outside of this role in her family and relationship WILL bring destruction to that relationship and family, as well as contribute to trouble in the church:

        1 Tim 5:14 “13At the same time they also learn to be idle, as they go around from house to house; and not merely idle, but also gossips and busybodies, talking about things not proper to mention.14Therefore, I want younger widows to get married, bear children, keep house, and give the enemy no occasion for reproach; 15for some have already turned aside to follow Satan”

        Yet more plain and obvious wisdom on the behavior of women and how deal with them. The problem is not women per say. It’s the men and how we have let them get out of control. Modern men go out of their way to enable the worst in women. Then act surprised when she – like some loose cannon in the hold of a storm tossed ship – proceeds to wreck and destroy everything around her.

      2. Taryn Lichenstein October 24, 2015 at 3:25 am

        I’ve been saying for some time that men could put a stop to all this nonsense, and probably in a short amount of time, if they would stand up to women and refuse to back down no matter what. It makes me sad that, rather than reclaim their rightful place as rulers of their own homes and society, men choose to simply give up, even though I understand why they do.

        Taryn

  8. Hubert Cumberdale October 21, 2015 at 10:04 am

    Female police, firefighters, and military personnel are completely inferior to their male counterparts. And how many female aircraft maintenance technicians, bridge builders, welders, plumbers, electricians, locksmiths, glaziers, or just general hard labourers do you know?

    VITAL JOBS for a functioning society that women don’t want to touch with a ten foot pole. They would rather take vanity jobs like “marketing” in some unnecessary product or being a typist for lame articles in Thought Catalogue.

    And worst of all, HR. They think they are the queen bee in a totally unnecessary job where they think they can boss around the men and terminate their employment at their whim.

    1. Clark Kent October 21, 2015 at 10:16 am

      They’re called dykes.

      1. Cat5krusher October 21, 2015 at 5:57 pm

        There are only so many diesel dykes though. Not enough and to “fill the void” so to speak. They dont have the emotinal control that men have to handle thinking on the fly under pressure .

    2. DarthHideous October 21, 2015 at 11:37 am

      Yeah, it’s ridiculous. I have a buddy who was in the Navy and he said that good guys were being pushed out of their jobs or not even considered for promotions because the Navy “needs more women.”

      1. spro23 October 21, 2015 at 8:29 pm

        we need a hard, bloody war

      2. Dutch_pride October 22, 2015 at 1:12 pm

        Not before women have to sign up for the draft and do actual combat tasks. War = men dying for women. Think about it.

        Look at WW2. Thousands of nameless John’s died on the shores of France, yet women are praised for playing Rosie the riveter: “We can do it” “We can do it”.
        I’d rather make bombs for five years than come back from war with a trauma and without an arm and a leg. Or, in a coffin of course.

        http://img04.deviantart.net/9be4/i/2009/220/2/f/rosie_the_riveter_by_tamasgaspar.jpg

      3. DarthHideous October 25, 2015 at 9:26 pm

        Send the feminists in the first wave.

    3. Brutus Maximus October 22, 2015 at 10:27 am

      Where I work, there’s a whole team of women whose sole task is to create one page powerpoint with ten lines per day. The rest of the day is spent gossiping in corridors. They just laid off 10 male engineers but kept these powerpoint monkeys in the name of equality. Where are the SJWs ?

      1. Rude Man October 22, 2015 at 3:12 pm

        If you want to help change the system, document this by gathering evidence at the company while working there.

        Create a website (anonymously) where you publish all the documentation of this travesty.

        Write an article on ROK on the subject with a link to your website.

        Use SEO techniques so your website has high rankings when the company is searched.

        Send a link to all men who were fired.

        Reach out to writers or men’s activists with strong twitter followings and ask them to check out your website and link to it through twiiter and /or write an article about it.

        See if you can get a hashtag going with the company’s name.

        Cover your @ss and make yourself termination proof by filing a sexual harassment lawsuit against the company alleging wrongdoing by a female employee.

        Post a review on company review websites like glassdoor where you outline the unfriendly male work environment.

        Post a phony story from a woman’s point of view on thoughcatalog or tumbr where you describe how awesome it is to work at this company where women are given preferential treatment and the work load is minimal.

        If you are fired, send a company wide email from an anonymous account with a link to the website and a warning to all male employees to begin to look for other jobs ASAP.

        In the meantime take as much advantage of the company as you can.

      2. Conrad Stonebanks October 23, 2015 at 6:52 am

        “Where I work, there’s a whole team of women whose sole task is to create one page powerpoint with ten lines per day. The rest of the day is spent gossiping in corridors.”

        Sounds like academia.

      3. Elton November 2, 2015 at 8:18 am

        Its the same shit where I work as well, I’ve only been here 6 months and made a big deal about it via my attitude. The Ex. VP showed up and yelled at everybody and for about 2 days they pretended to work, afterwards back to normal, email’s unanswered, phone calls missed etc. Now when some of the pretty ones see me in the cafeteria their roll their eyes with a face of contempt. Men are digging their own graves by treating these parasites like this.

      4. Brutus Maximus November 3, 2015 at 12:27 pm

        I noticed that men who stick around these incompetents are big manginas. Event the tone of their voices is modified working with women, highly pitched and over dramatic. Like this chick who came back after pregnancy, showing pictures of her baby, the few guys working on their team were like “oooooh aaaah cuuuuute”. Unbearable experience. And bingo : these guys are mostly the unmasculine skinny fat type. No alpha would scream like that. Being around women too much accelerates the physiological feminization process.

    4. DeCode October 22, 2015 at 8:19 pm

      Agreed, I worked Aircraft MX for years in the Air force. NEVER met or witnessed a female crew chief, engine mechanic, age worker, or any other subsystems specialist who was worth a damn. ESPECIALLY if she was in any way attractive. If just 1-2 guys thought she was worth a quick f#ck, she was using it to her advantage to get out of work.

      And generally their problem solving and trouble shooting skills as a rule were absolute garbage. Next to no mechanical intuition.

      Wait, I take that back! There was one. But she for all intents and purposes was more of a living embodiment of what a troll would look like in real life. Short, fat, hairy, and dirty. But she could turn a wrench like nobodys business and was quick to get out and pound around on the fligh-line…she was also a lesbian *shrug*.

    5. Anti_Femastasis October 23, 2015 at 8:01 am

      Female police, firefighters, and military personnel are completely inferior to their male counterparts.

      B-but anon, men and women are equal
      http://i.imgbox.com/2HhX1zC8.jpg

      And worst of all, HR. They think they are the queen bee in a totally
      unnecessary job where they think they can boss around the men and
      terminate their employment at their whim.

      http://i.imgbox.com/D4eVzeRw.jpg

      1. Taryn Lichenstein October 23, 2015 at 11:18 pm

        Wow that picture you shared looks like me whenever I stand next to anyone! O.o

        In all seriousness, though, what will it finally take for the preferential treatment afforded to some to finally end? These unfair policies prevent our best and brightest from reaching their full potential, the full consequence of which I fear we may live to see.

        Men and women are not equal, nor should we be. I still fail to understand exactly WHY this is such a horrible thing. I guess some people are just never going to be satisfied. I say we give up trying to placate these incompetent cretins and start trying to reverse the incredible damage they’ve inflicted on society (if indeed this is possible at this point. I hope it is).

        Taryn

      2. Tom Arrow October 24, 2015 at 12:19 am

        As for the WHY, likely shame.

      3. Taryn Lichenstein October 24, 2015 at 12:53 am

        Perhaps you are right, though there is no shame in not being a man’s equal. I don’t want to be a man’s equal. The end result of any attempt to be such means that I cease to be myself in all my uniqueness and that any talents I may possess are ultimately wasted while I try and force myself to be something I was never created to be. That would be a huge waste. In the end, if I want to be happy and retain my psychological integrity, I can only be myself. It’s obvious that hard core feminists are beyond miserable. They are a sad sight.

        Taryn

      4. Tom Arrow October 24, 2015 at 6:04 am

        Not that kind of shame. I mean precisely shame for who you truly are.

      5. Taryn Lichenstein October 24, 2015 at 7:02 am

        Oh. Sorry I misunderstood.

        They should be ashamed. They have nothing whatsoever to be proud of. They should be begging men’s forgiveness, not that the stupid little skanks are entitled to it. Ugh. Feel my blood pressure rise. Grrrrrrrrrr.

        Taryn

      6. Tom Arrow October 24, 2015 at 9:01 am

        It is a true achievment for both of us to generate misunderstanding twice.

        My point is: They feel ashamed of their femininity and suppress it. A whore is all that is left.

      7. Taryn Lichenstein October 24, 2015 at 9:52 am

        Oh geez. You’ll have to forgive me. I haven’t slept much or well the last few days so it’s not surprising that what you meant went totally over my head. Sorry about that.

        Taryn

      8. Tom Arrow October 24, 2015 at 9:59 am

        Please, do not feel ashamed.

      9. Batman3.0 October 26, 2015 at 7:04 pm

        Damn she would not even have to get on her knees.

      10. Batman3.0 October 31, 2015 at 1:17 pm

        Seriously I could spin that chick the entire weekend without getting tired. What is she protecting and serving? BJs and reverse cowgirl… LOL!

    6. chloe October 26, 2015 at 2:57 pm

      If we had only male police, then one could argue that women should no longer be effected by the law and should no longer face the possibility of being arrested. Would it not be grossly inappropriate for a male officer to manhandle or search a female suspect? I think the rest of the jobs you mention could very easily be completely filled by men, but we do need female police officers unless society intends to bring back a completely patriarchal society and make women exempt from breaking the law again. It is only actually in recent years that women have been arrested or faced jail for breaking the law.

  9. Tom Dane October 21, 2015 at 10:25 am

    Finally, was waiting for this. This will start a new hate storm

    1. GetItGoing October 22, 2015 at 8:17 am

      Let’s hope so. I do love seeing the overreaction when white middle class females have their jimmies rustled.

  10. zbyszek October 21, 2015 at 10:29 am

    In the past, I used to like Roosh’s writings about game and self-improvement, but this blog is recently becoming a complete nonsense, and today’s post is a prime example.

    Where did I miss the transition from “male work is more essential to the economy than female work” argument to “women shouldn’t work” argument?

    Economy would recover in 4-10 years? Where is that number taken from? One of the most serious explanations for Japan’s chronic stagnation since early 1990s is that the economic oppression of women had eased out over there, leading the country to fall behind foreign competitors.

    Civilization did just fine before mid 20th century? If the objective is merely to survive then yes it did. Most people however (men included) would rather live in a world with less wars and violence, even if it comes at the cost of dealing with office gossip.

    1. Simon October 21, 2015 at 11:13 am

      Please tell me you’re female.

    2. Cat5krusher October 21, 2015 at 6:04 pm

      Japan has chronic stagnation because the “men” refuse to grow up from video games and tentacle porn and the women have no interest in dating thes super betas. The women are working but they spend their money on clothes, toys and eating at restaraunts.Why dont they send all those fucking muslim immigrants that are destroying europe over to Japan so they can die from Fukashima fallout.Its a win win.

      1. DeCode October 22, 2015 at 8:27 pm

        The “men” refuse to grow up, because there is nothing in it for them. It has NOTHING to do with immaturity. It’s advanced MGTOW culture.

        Japan IS the US within another generation.

        Get ready!

    3. spicynujac October 23, 2015 at 2:14 pm

      It’s not an argument; its a method used to examine which sex’s contributions are more highly valued. Remove one sex, what remains is only the other. It doesn’t mean anyone is advocating to ban women from working. It’s a way of logically proving an theory. I agree the 4-10 year part was arbitrary, but I was thinking it would take far less time.

  11. advancedatheist October 21, 2015 at 10:37 am

    If you think about it, gynecology has a lot in common with veterinary medicine. Men had to develop health care for both women and animals because women and animals couldn’t do this for themselves.

  12. JuanPeron October 21, 2015 at 10:54 am

    Women in the workforce can be a positive thing in some cases, but women have gotten too far along strictly based on gender. As part of the perceived notion that they are battling the “Glass Ceiling” many have been put in positions where they did not earn the rite of passage or have enough experience to get the job done. I come across women in companies who actually scream and cry in meetings; complain that if others don’t agree with them its because they’re a woman; in some cases I have had women openly complain that there were “too many white men in suits” in a particular meeting. Recently, I’ve been assigned a new client project that is ALL women. Their behavior is reprehensible! They act like a bunch middle school girls. They have cost both my company and their own a lot of money due to lost time and bad decisions. I’m a big fan of having the best person in a position based on merit and experience and NOT gender, ethnicity or sexual preference. The call for “Diversity” is the death knell of Corporate America.

    1. Roosh October 21, 2015 at 12:46 pm

      “The call for “Diversity” is the death knell of Corporate America.”

      This is by design. Once you work from that presupposition, things start making more sense.

      1. FrmrCanadian October 21, 2015 at 12:47 pm

        Diversity, political correctness, affirmative action, quota hiring, tolerance and multiculturalism!

      2. spicynujac October 23, 2015 at 2:16 pm

        Not sure I understand this. Most of what I perceive shows corporations gaining and expanding their power, even above that of governments. Why would these powerful institutions take on something like feminism and diversity that would destroy them? I see it more as corporations using diversity to increase their power and as a means to an end.

        Who is destroying corporate America and why? What is going to replace it? I see things moving towards more corporate domination, not less.

      3. Better Dead Than Red October 24, 2015 at 4:55 am

        Corporate = governenment.
        Bailout = taxes + printing money.

  13. Vegard Johansen October 21, 2015 at 11:40 am

    No need to ban women from working.
    Let`s just have a free market instead of big-government, socialist, croony-capitalist rule, and resources, including HR, would allocate themselves where most needed.
    In reality, this would mean that most women would do the blunt of their work in the context of the family/home, while still allowing for women who are outliers to have the oppurtunity to pursue a career competing on equal terms with men.(which extremely few women are capable of.)

  14. DarthHideous October 21, 2015 at 11:44 am

    I can’t take anything the feminists say seriously, especially having worked in the service industry.
    My female coworkers and I got paid the same and I did way more shit than they did. I made deliveries in the rain and snow, lifted heavy shit and brought it to the basement, set up the rugs, swept the floor, made the food, washed the dishes, worked the grill when needed, and took down orders
    The females only made the food, counted cash, barked out orders, and worked the register: things I also know how to do and am capable of doing. And they still think shit is unfair for them?
    On another note, one of the female coworkers used to flirt with me, complemented me on certain body parts, and touched me quite a bit. Another dude tries flirting with her and touches her and she cries “sexual harassment.” Dude gets the boot. I don’t fucking even…

    1. GetItGoing October 22, 2015 at 8:20 am

      Also when 5pm comes who do you think is the first out the door ALWAYS? Hint: not male

      1. DarthHideous October 22, 2015 at 2:30 pm

        Too true.

    2. Rude Man October 22, 2015 at 3:20 pm

      You should have banged the girl who flirted with you OR gotten her fired for sexual harassment if you weren’t into it.

      Both if you are a real edgelord.

      1. DarthHideous October 22, 2015 at 11:33 pm

        She was younger than me and had a kid. I wasn’t going to get wrapped up in that mess. Though, there was this cute Asian chick with a Hispanic body…

  15. just a human October 21, 2015 at 11:53 am

    Great post! In my country (eastern europe) most man are dirty workhorses and often recieve less money than women who mostly do some so called “women jobs”-for example-be a secretary and answer phone calls. Total injustice ..no one speaks about this ..Thanks Roosh!

  16. Anonymous October 21, 2015 at 11:57 am

    Something like this has been in my mind for a while. Now I have seen the light. Just took someone with a better understanding of how society works to put these thoughts into a coherent discourse. Here is hoping some of the great minds of our time will eventually arrive to the same conclusion and changes in this direction will eventually be introduced. Feminist icon Emma Watson can rest assured her work is essential, though. We are not going to turn cinema arts into Kabuki performances any time soon.

  17. slack October 21, 2015 at 12:04 pm

    We need that movie!

  18. Guy Chauhan October 21, 2015 at 12:21 pm

    feminism is an ugly offspring of socialism. both’re unnatural and actually are threats.

    1. Heinrich von Geobbels October 22, 2015 at 10:51 pm

      Feminism is also the ugly offspring of a society that has a lot of free time on its hands.

      Explode a thermonuclear device 200 miles above Kansas City or let a solar flare hit us full force and the resultant EMP will shove us back to the late 19th century immediately and eliminate feminism from the cultural landscape within 24 hours.

      It will be like that really odd Old Testament verse I read many years ago:

      Seven women will grab hold of one man at that time. They will say, “We
      will provide our own food, we will provide our own clothes; but let us
      belong to you–take away our shame!” (Isaiah 4:1, NET Bible)

      1. Guy Chauhan October 23, 2015 at 5:15 pm

        The verse you mentioned actually has lot of weight. clearly the “man” in this verse implies to “Real Man” of today as there’re many of “Politically correct” version.

  19. Slashfund October 21, 2015 at 12:33 pm

    Crazy that countries like Japan with shrinking populations think that the solution is to get more women into offices. Maybe if they ban birth control so that their bosses repeatedly impregnate them…

  20. FrmrCanadian October 21, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    Oh, come on… Banning or stopping anyone from doing anything has never led to any positive results or impact on folks around.
    It ain’t about WOMEN, it’s all about the system of modern values and priorities!
    It’d about political correctness, tolerance, multiculturalism, affirmative action, quota hiring and other preferences women are given in the workforce and society in general.
    Take that away and you’ll get a society based on education, professional experiences, knowledge, willingness to work, specific skills acquired for this or that job. What’s wrong with female teacher, nannies, office workers, bartenders, waitresses for example? Ain’t it nice to enter a diner and see waitresses in mini skirts and high heels running around, taking orders and serving plates?
    I do not feel uncomfortable dealing with females at passport office, bank and other organizations? Why should those positions be limited to “males only”?
    Dare to see the roots of the problem and not what’s on the surface!! Women ain’t the problem, the system of values and laws of the modern society is!

  21. pbw11 October 21, 2015 at 1:17 pm

    Roosh never implied banning women from work. His main argument is attempting to bring women into the workforce to achieve equality in reality is the disempowerment of straight men. Reality is most women do not want to work – especially doing the risky trades that men do – and would prefer staying home and raising children. For the women who really want to work and not have kids, men have always helped them in the work force.

    1. themaharajah October 21, 2015 at 3:35 pm

      Exactly, most jobs are either Dangerous, Hard, Mundane or provide no status boost whatspever. Women are only in it for the perceived status boost and independance, which in reality for 95% doesn’t ever actually materialize, it’s just boring and hard work for not enough money. Even for those who it does materialize for, it’s HARD work and a lot of them bail on it or else end up depressed old childless hags.

      Women must hate standard garden variety Betas that much, they just want to be independent so they don’t have to fuck one of them for life, certainly not whilst they are young and hot.

      1. Marshallaw October 21, 2015 at 4:28 pm

        Also do people really believe governments are in it for the “equality”? Its bullshit. Just more worker bees for the tax take buying shit they don’t need breeding latch key kids popping Ritalin like smarties……

  22. BANGER October 21, 2015 at 2:20 pm

    Dude you keep hitting your brain with this crap. I’m not saying there isn’t any truth in wath you mantain but man, what kind of crusade are you bringing on? You will end up taking on your boat just losers and bitter betas. Do you really think that what you state will make the world a better place? Things will not change, dude, accept it. They’ll probably move still further in the direction you are trying to stop. With all the rapes happening in India and in the islamic states on war, do you really think the establishment will stop making laws that favour women? They won’t, bet your ass on it.

    1. themaharajah October 21, 2015 at 3:23 pm

      Except Europe is being invaded by Islamic types and south Asians as we speak. The west either bucks up it’s ideas and institutes some kind of more moderate, civilized, (much)whiter version of Islamic ideals. Or they will be conquered by the rapists you are talking about.
      You really don’t have your finger on the pulse do you buddy? look how much debt we are in since feminist/socialist ideas took a footing, the state of the economy, and the hordes taking over Western society. The west either fixes up sharpish or dies, Roosh is on the right side of the line, truthfully there is no other side, the other side is even further on the Roosh side of the line, it’s called Sharia, or even worse Genocide/death.

    2. Julius Streicher October 22, 2015 at 5:34 am

      You think the rapes in India is something new? Just because the lyingpress writes about it now does not mean it’s something new. The marxist agenda is being pushed.

  23. A.W.E.S.O.M.-O October 21, 2015 at 2:42 pm

    I work with a bunch of women. They’re actually talented, but I need a guy on my team for fucks sake.

    1. FormrCanadian October 21, 2015 at 2:48 pm

      I’ve never cared who I work with as long as the job is done properly and safely.
      One can always hang around “with boys” after work. 😉

    2. Marshallaw October 21, 2015 at 4:29 pm

      Any hotties?

      1. greyghost1 October 21, 2015 at 6:24 pm

        Yeah man what do they look like.

      2. Julius Streicher October 22, 2015 at 5:33 am

        Yeah bru. Tell us any 10pointers?

    3. Conrad Stonebanks October 23, 2015 at 6:49 am

      Talented at what? Following orders and backstabbing their colleagues?

  24. Cadders October 21, 2015 at 3:27 pm

    I’ve done this thought experiment in the past, and even attempted to quantify the cost of women in the workforce in dollar terms. I’ve come to much the same conclusions as Roosh.

    The problem comes when you ask yourself the next question; if modern women aren’t working in paid employment, if they are tending hearth and home…..what are they actually doing?

    Because modern appliances and technology mean women would only have around 2 hours worth of tasks to perform each day (much less if they had no children). Would anybody – men or women – be able to cope with so much *enforced* leisure time?

    Which then leads on to the next (much more disquieting) question; if women aren’t necessary in the working world, and aren’t much needed in the domestic sphere, are unwilling to offer men what men desire in a woman and aren’t keen on having children……what is the point of women?

    This leads to a very dark place. But I sometimes wonder if the tenacity with which women cling to feminism is rooted, at an instinctive level, to the understanding that in reality it is not men who are no longer needed but women. Or more properly, women who don’t breed.

    I fear our technology leaves us in a place where we have no choice but to get the women working. I can’t figure out how else to keep them occupied.

    1. greyghost1 October 21, 2015 at 6:23 pm

      You comment scares the living hell out of a lot of people. And much is done to always avoid the thoughts you have displayed.
      BTW this gay marriage thing and the surrogacy men are using to have children with out women is going to really sting the libs and feminist when the statistics of male headed families start to come out vs female headed families.

      1. me October 21, 2015 at 9:52 pm

        What statistics? You think anybody will be allowed to collect statistics? Statistics are only allowed when they can be expected to match the PC line.

      2. Cadders October 22, 2015 at 1:33 am

        Christ – ain’t that the truth.

        I remember reading the statistics that something like 40% of households in the US now have a female breadwinner. This was part of the ‘End of Men’ and the ‘rise of women’ narrative.

        When you unpicked the data, the vast majority of these female ‘breadwinners’ were single mums on benefits / alimony. A lot were working, but not making anything like enough to provide for themselves, let alone their kids. They were ‘breadwinning’ in the sense that they were ‘winning’ handouts from their ex-husbands or the government (i.e. mostly the mass of men).

        When you looked at the data more closely the percentage of women genuinely breadwinning – i.e. supporting themselves, a husband and kids was exactly the same percentage as in the 1950s – 4%.

      3. Cadders October 22, 2015 at 1:25 am

        TBH my comment scares me to a degree.

        The relationship between men and women is naturally antagonistic. It seems to me that it has to be this way – the antagonism is what drives us as a species forward – hypergamy is there for a reason, after all.

        But this antagonism needs to be kept broadly in balance for optimum results. Feminism has effectively co-oped modern tech to force the pendulum so far in women’s favour that the results are awful for the mass of men, terrible for children and now, is generating more and more miserable, dysfunctional women.

        It will be interesting to see how this will swing back – and it will swing back. I have favoured the idea of some sort of reset, maybe a financial or social disruption of some kind – nothing Mad Max style, just a period of relative chaos and impoverishment on the way to the next overtly patriarchal society. Before the whole sorry rise of female empowerment eventually starts again.

        But I wonder – just as women co-oped tech to swing the pendulum in their favour, will men co-op it in response? At this point an artificial womb and sex-bots / VR sex would replace almost all of modern women’s scant remaining value. And all these things are under development.

        What scares me is how the pendulum would ever swing back from that.

      4. DeCode October 22, 2015 at 8:46 pm

        Maybe with the surrogate thing. But the statistics are in on Gay parents vs hetero. It nearly mirrors single motherdom, with the exception of far higher molestation rates.

      5. greyghost1 October 22, 2015 at 10:18 pm

        I didn’t expect much from the fags being as with out pussy they simulate being women with irrational behavior and shrug off any masculinity. The point is they are males with children and normal masculine men don’t have to be childless to be MGTOW.

    2. Simon October 22, 2015 at 3:55 am

      Yes it’s interesting to note that it was the advent of domestic technology like vacuum cleaners and washing machines that freed women up to enter the workforce in the first place. Smash them all?

      I think the stay-at-home wife model can still work, and keep a woman fully occupied, but only in cases where there are a large number of children. Even with domestic appliances, looking after 5 kids and a husband is always going to be a full time job.

      Agree it’s not going to work with just 1 or no kids.

      1. Cadders October 22, 2015 at 6:39 am

        Raising a large brood – properly – would most likely consume most of the mother’s free time. But the problem then is that very few men can provide enough to support a large family. Mostly because women entering the workforce en-mass has massively depressed the wages of everyone, men and women.

        So we now find ourselves in a place where women having the ‘choice’ to work has been replaced by an obligation to do so, even as the overwhelming majority of the work they do is either unnecessary or required as a direct or indirect result of other women going out to work. It’s truly bizarre.

        Far from this being the age of the ‘End of Men’, we are really living in a time when technology has rendered women’s traditional skillsets mostly superfluous and feminism has offered them little more than the ‘freedom’ to be wage slaves. And of course the freedom to destroy their remaining value (to men) by slutting it up. They dress it up as empowerment, but the huge numbers of women on psychiatric medication puts the lie to that.

        At the root of this, I think, is most women’s inability to find contentment within themselves. Most men would be able to enjoy extra leisure time, filling it with hobbies and interests. Women, its seems to me, cannot find this place and soon need external stimulation / validation to stop becoming bored. Women with time on their hands will soon start causing mischief. Not directly, mostly via manipulating clueless men. Women cannot be trusted to police themselves, and most men are too blue-bill to understand this, so we have to find something to keep them occupied. For the moment work will have to do.

        Maybe it’s just the market meeting demand; pointless jobs for pointless women, as it were.

    3. Rude Man October 22, 2015 at 3:45 pm

      What would women do if they weren’t working full time jobs? Stuff like:

      1) raising kids

      2) joining ladies gardening clubs

      3) meeting for ladies luncheons

      4) volunteer work

      5) part time work

      6) cleaning the house

      7) gardening in the home

      8) gardening in community flowerbeds and gardens

      9) taking educational classes

      10) working out

      11) taking care of basic household finances

      12) decorating

      13) small home maintenance projects

      14) attending community and civic events

      15) community improvement projects

      16) tutoring (their children and others)

      17) grocery shopping

      18) preparing healthful meals

      19) giving or taking music lessons

      20) hobbies

      21) taking children or pets to Doctor’s appointments

      22) tennis

      23) working out

      24) tanning or relaxing by the pool

      25) read

      26) use new information to improve the household and family

      27) visiting and/or taking care of sick relatives or friends

      28) waiting for the cable/plumber/repairman

      29) see to teh emotional health of her family

      30) maintain the social calendar

      31) plan parties and events (birthdays, anniversary)

      32) get involved in charities or charity fundraisers

      33) laundry (wash. dry. fold. put away and repair when needed

      34) sewing

      35) make outfits and costumes for the kids

      36) clothes shopping for herself and the kids (maybe husband too)

      37) adhering to household budgets

      38) plan vacations

      39) evaluate and choose school situations

      40) evaluate and choose summer camps and school break activities

      41) be a den mother or other such involvement in children’s extracurriculars

      42) drive kids to school

      42) help choose extracurriculars such as sports, music, arts, acting etc for children and take them there

      43) attend PTA meetings

      44) make sure children are excelling in schools and other activites

      ….

      The list could go on a long time. There is a lot to do for a stay at home Mom if she’s doing it right. And a lot of it can be fun and a lot of it rewarding. Women turning away from such a great situation is mainly a result of current MSM and school brainwashing.

      1. DeCode October 22, 2015 at 8:53 pm

        So basically women would do what they USED to do.

        Just about every modern “stay at home mom” I know of, struggles to cook dinner once a day, never-mind clean the house, or all of the things you mentioned. Women now SUCK. They are almost beyond help. And when I see friends raise their “princess” daughters and encourage them in their complete ignorance of domestic duties – never mind actual adult responsibilities – I just face palm and wish there were regular rockets to some off world colony. Earth and by extension, mankind, is done…stick a fork in this bitch.

      2. Snowden October 22, 2015 at 9:20 pm

        Women’s group at church.

      3. Taryn Lichenstein October 24, 2015 at 2:56 am

        I was never so busy as when I was raising my kids as a SAHM. I was able to drop out of the full-time workforce when my second child was born (I have three kids), and I didn’t go back to work full-time until they were all grown. I have never felt that I in any way “missed out” by taking that time off, but rather viewed those years as a blessing in spite of the occasional hardships brought on by my decreased financial contribution to the household. A couple of times I was able to take on a part-time evening job so that he was home when I was working. We may not have been wealthy, but we never lacked the necessities. I am thankful that I had the opportunity to stay home with my kids and wouldn’t change that if I had to do it all over again. It’s always better for one parent to stay home (preferably mom) with the kids when they’re young, rather than warehousing them in some daycare center where they catch all manner of illnesses and learn bad manners and other undesirable habits. Even better is the home school option, which we also did for a time. Wouldn’t trade those years with my kids for anything in this world. <3

        Taryn

    4. DeCode October 22, 2015 at 8:43 pm

      I had this Epiphany when I actually looked at what the net benefit of my wife for 10+ years was. Except for birthing 3 awesome sons…NOTHING.

      She IS NOT a good companion.
      She IS NOT a good help mate.
      She IS NOT a good partner.
      She IS NOT an economical contributor (in fact she has been nothing but a constant net drain)
      She IS NOT sexually satisfying

      She IS little more than a adult sized, sometimes sex object, that more often than not conducts her self like an unruly, irresponsible, annoying, argumentative, child.

      And even worse, she is actually better than most women I know, or have had relationships with!

      Modern women are indeed worthless to society and men. Except for having babies, most are of no use what so ever.

      I don’t say this as an indictment against woman as a species. I say this as a warning to modern western females. You are – by your actions – destroying everything that makes women tolerable or even attractive as a species!

      Stop before it’s to late.

      1. spicynujac October 23, 2015 at 2:31 pm

        So… are you dumping her?

      2. DeCode October 25, 2015 at 8:41 pm

        HELL NAH!

        Like the song says, It’s cheaper to keep her.

      3. Dutch_pride October 26, 2015 at 1:02 pm

        If she really was a pain in the ass you would divorce her. You have to ask yourself if you can live with this person, but the answer probably is: yes.

      4. Dutch_pride October 24, 2015 at 10:06 am

        You divorced her? Because it sounds you don’t need her. Or is this a case of: “cheaper to keep her”…

      5. DeCode October 25, 2015 at 9:18 pm

        Like the song says…Cheaper to keep her!

        Besides, Real talk, my “happiness” will gladly take a back seat to family stability for my kids. Frankly, once you have kids, it really isn’t about you and your spouse anymore. Anyone who thinks otherwise has been reading to much “it’s all about me” pseudo empowerment books and advice columns.

      6. Rainbow fart sprinkles. December 31, 2017 at 1:04 am

        Maybe you should find a man to satisfy you.

    5. spicynujac October 23, 2015 at 2:29 pm

      The sick answer which hits me right in the face is consumerism. After the stay at home woman finishes cleaning the house and washing dishes, ironing the clothing and preparing the evening’s meal, what can she do but… shop!

      Of course in the old days she would hone some skill or talent, paint, play the piano, or develop some other creative outlet, which would be not only rewarding for her, but provide pleasure to others, but you don’t see this much anymore.

      1. Taryn Lichenstein October 24, 2015 at 3:13 am

        I spent my mostly scarce free time teaching myself to crochet, painting the inside of the house, scrapbooking, reading, and working out. Then, when my Dad was diagnosed with cancer, it was my privilege to spend a huge amount of time getting him to his chemo, radiation, and doctor appointments. Then I started attending college part-time to complete my academic prerequisite requirements in order to prepare for application to nursing school. Once in a blue moon, I would take a nap….lol.

        Taryn

  25. Marshallaw October 21, 2015 at 4:20 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3280032/Women-lost-cooking-skills-says-Michel-Roux-Jnr-MasterChef-says-mothers-don-t-pass-more.html

    Michel Roux Jnr. Telling some home truths about women in the workforce.

    “The former MasterChef star said working mothers of today and those before them had failed to acquire cooking skills because their lives now revolve around the office rather than their families.

    ‘There have been at least two generations of mothers no longer cooking at home and no longer passing on their basic cooking knowledge,’ he told Radio Times. ‘That is part of the problem.’

    The knock-on effect is a growing dependency on what he calls ‘supermarket convenience foods’ which are often packed with additives, sugar and fat.”

  26. Imprevist October 21, 2015 at 4:35 pm

    Women are only empowered to put money in uncle sams pocket, that’s it. It has absolutely nothing to do with equality.
    1. The more women work the more taxes they pay.
    2. The more women work, the more money they spend since they are emotional spenders. Spending increases taxes. More money for uncle Sam.

    1. TyKo Steamboat October 21, 2015 at 10:52 pm

      Yes. Women drive the economy because they spend money on stupid shit that they don’t really need. Which is why divorce courts award women with large sums of a mans money because it will then get pumped into the economy.
      Solution = Don’t get married.

      1. Dutch_pride October 22, 2015 at 10:36 am

        If enough men won’t marry they will create some new legislation that will turn out negatively for men.

      2. TyKo Steamboat October 22, 2015 at 10:45 pm

        Well then. Make “them” pass some kinda legislation then. I’d like to see it justified. It can’t possibly be any more negative than now…
        How about there becomes more incentive for a man to get married. That could always be an idea… As for now, don’t get married.

      3. Dutch_pride October 23, 2015 at 7:25 am

        Can’t be more negative than now? Wait until you see that yes=yes law implemented globally. Or what about common law marriage, where cohabitation automatically has legal consequences. With feminists having a say, things can become worse than they are today.

      4. Better Dead Than Red October 24, 2015 at 4:53 am

        Exactly. It’s the power of the law. Read Bastiat.

  27. Michael_Augustus October 21, 2015 at 9:16 pm

    If men stopped working, the cities would literally clog up with shit and the toilets would cease to function. The land would go black because the electrical generators from the godly Tesla stop working. Nuclear power plants litter the land with radiation. The military would be nonexistent, allowing fighting cultures like the Muslims who wish to eradicate infidels to come and conquer like they are in Europe. The water systems would fail. Agriculture, our food supply would immediately fail. Cars would all eventually break down from lack of mechanics. The shipping services from cars, trucks, and planes would be non-existent. Cellphones would have no service. The mines, the place where we get all of our building materials for everything would no longer be excavated.There would be riots. Millions would perish from violence, thirst, and starvation. There would be absolutely ZERO feminists and indypydynt wimminz. Women would be handing over that pussy before you could say ‘patriarchy’.

    The problem is that construction and maintenance of civilization goes on in the background outside most people’s everyday lives. It’s hard to appreciate what you don’t see. Women will never understand or truly appreciate man’s contribution to society and their safety. That is why they shouldn’t be in positions of authority or vote.

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  28. George Nada October 22, 2015 at 12:02 am

    It would be impossible for an article to be more dead-on balls accurate than this one.

  29. anonymous October 22, 2015 at 3:10 am

    The most productive gold mining operation will be exclusively female if all of them were goldiggers!

  30. ShepardSays October 22, 2015 at 3:13 am

    Men stop working and the economy unravels further. Women stop working and the entire student loan debt bubble implodes.

  31. Simon October 22, 2015 at 4:03 am

    Let’s not also forget that in much the same way as women entering higher education, women earning a comparable wage to men is also harmful to society for the simple reason of hypergamy.

    Women always want to date/marry up – the more academic credentials they have, the more they earn, the smaller the pool of available men that outrank them, and then you end up with 10% of men getting 80% of the women during their carousel years of peak fertility in their 20s, when they ought to be having families.

    This in turn leads to bitter disaffected men in the other 90% who can’t get a woman, eventually settling for a washed up post-wall slut in her epiphany phase who they have kids with, and who then ends up frivorcing them. In turn leading to children being raised by single mothers, and another messed up generation of young men.

  32. Julius Streicher October 22, 2015 at 4:38 am

    Great article. This is what i have always been thinking since i woke up to the truth.

  33. xtc October 22, 2015 at 8:33 am

    The problem is that domestic work has become too easy. It just doesn’t fill the day. Most female work is make-work designed to keep them busy, and thus out of trouble. Little children require full time care, but before and after that phase, a home just doesn’t need that much looking after. What are women supposed to do all day?

    I support the ideas in this article, I’m seeking ways to apply them in practice. Education of women is a truly shocking misallocation of scarce resources. The number of women with higher degrees who only do half a dozen years of real work in their lives is horrifying.

  34. Dutch_pride October 22, 2015 at 10:18 am

    If men stopped working today, no toilet would flush tomorrow, the electricity would go out within 24 hours as well, and in about a week or so there would be no gas to put into your car because it’s pumped out of the ground by men and transported by men. We would be back in the dark ages within a couple of weeks. Maybe it would be good if women experienced the absence of the modern life men created for them. Because at the same time I guess no man would care for prestige if it wasn’t for pussy.

    1. Conrad Stonebanks October 23, 2015 at 6:46 am

      “Maybe it would be good if women experienced the absence of the modern life men created for them”

      Given the EU keeps importing the barbarians by the millions, they soon will.

  35. Brutus Maximus October 22, 2015 at 10:32 am

    Gee I wouldn’t trade my Shiatsu masseuse for any guy, oh the sweet hands 🙂

  36. Al Cibiades October 22, 2015 at 11:32 am

    Time for an national “Do it yourselves, bitches, er ladies” week where all men do absolutely nothing including first responders. That may finally get their attention and crush their illusions.

  37. dfdsf October 22, 2015 at 12:05 pm

    As long as we have affirmative action policies, legislation and policy making in favor of women and human resources departments, then continue to expect more men to be displaced in the workforce and turn into trophy husbands.

  38. DarthHideous October 22, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    There was some HuffPo article I saw on Facebook (yeah I really should get off it) saying something like “Studies Show Men are Threatened by Intelligent Women.”

    I just had to laugh. The comments were, predictably, a female circle jerk with all of them patting each other on the back for being so “intelligent,” “strong”, and how men who couldn’t “handle” them weren’t really men.

    Strong with the hamster, they are.

    1. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:48 am

      that was a pretty stupid article, and its dangerous this kind of stupid articles go viral under the guise of science in our society while others do not.

      1. DarthHideous October 26, 2015 at 4:11 pm

        Even when I dived into the Red Pill a year ago, I thought that the “man hate in society” thing might have been overblown and a bit of fear mongering. Now, I am convinced it’s real and getting worse.

        It might not be bad to the point that we see it and feel it every time we step outside our doors, but I believe by then it’ll be too late.

  39. Morrison October 22, 2015 at 1:51 pm

    “Western society is actually engaging in a soft version of the thought experiment I’ve proposed, where women are encouraged to work and are given preferential treatment over men in the labor market while men are increasingly shamed and discouraged to work in a way where their merit and effort is rewarded”

    It’s not exactly ‘soft version’ as I see it. It was soft in the 1970s but gradually it is progressively getting more hardcore.

    1. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:48 am

      its getting so hardchore that men are in most of the essential well paying domains.
      incredibly hard for men dont you think that they are so little encouraged to work as to work the most.

  40. Genie October 22, 2015 at 3:42 pm

    There are several vital professions that are primarily made of up a female workforce, nursing is a good example. I would also say social work, where the majority of social workers are females, also personal support workers who bath and dress isolated and frail seniors and people with disabilities, are mostly females. Yeah there are many careers that men are better suited for and vise versa, and I know he’s not arguing for a ban of all women working but he did state that if women were forbidden to work the economic affects would only be temporary and I disagree. Example: if there were no nurses and men didn’t want to do this job, whose providing primary daily care to patients, in health care settings and in communities (where nurses are increasingly caring for patients as a move to limit hospital admissions)? Whose bathing disabled adults who can’t do this themselves. Vulnerable people with no community supports will see a decline in health (think – the social determinants of health) and where will they go? To hospitals, bogging up the system there and costing tax payers/insurances companies, etc millions. When these vulnerable people can’t pay their medical bills where will they end up, homeless so there will be a pressure on social services to find money to open more shelters and provide community outreach to help these folks but wait, that’s what social workers do and well, those workers don’t exist anymore.

    It’s an interesting concept but fails to take into account professions and services that if not done by women, society would see a long lasting negative affect (unless men took up these jobs). How many men here want to bath a 95 year old obese woman who change the shitty diaper of a dementia patient? Anyone??

    And don’t say “fuck those people” because those people could be anyone of us any time, especially as we age. If you got into an accident tomorrow and could no longer bath yourself or use the toilet independently , and your harem of sluts deserted you, who would you rather have touching your genitals? Carl or Carla?

    1. Vivian October 24, 2015 at 5:36 pm

      The most rationale argument here. Most of the men agreeing with this article aren’t fully thinking things through.

      On a funny note- can you imagine these alpha he -men selling longerie and makeup to women. And doing nails, hair etc? Not to mention most men do pretty poorly at multitasking- my experience anyway. Yes the ramifications would be widespread and devastating to the society in which we live in more ways than one.

      1. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:45 am

        they wouldnt do this. They dont consider women are allowed to have their nails done or anything. they would keep them in the house dressed in rags.

  41. Rude Man October 22, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    Let’s have an annual men on strike day. A day where men all call in sick on the same day and then do whatever they want.

    Even if it doesn’t ever hit critical mass, it will cause many people to go through the thought experiment like Roosh did and realize that without the work of men, our society is really screwed.

  42. lalabamba October 22, 2015 at 3:53 pm

    Roosh makes fun of fields like sociology, but it’s basically what he is now doing for a living.

    1. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:44 am

      hes an incoherent retard.

  43. Femghazi October 22, 2015 at 7:04 pm

    The can has been opened, there is no going back now. Women made their beds, let them sleep in them, alone.

  44. Franciscanesta October 22, 2015 at 7:24 pm

    I always think that the husband /man should be the main breadwinner.
    From my point of view, feminism was first created to make women could get their education and knowledge properly to educate their children and support their families (helping their men to earn more money when the men can’t provide enough for their families).
    That’s what equality is… Although women and men have different roles in the family, they are helping each other (fathers work outside, mothers work at home raising good and educated kids) and both make the perfect family.
    At least in my country, we really respect women who have degrees but choose to be stay-at-home moms.
    With no social security, high prices of daily needs and high price of education, most of the time both fathers and mothers have to work so they can provide their children with good nutrition and good education. The impact is, the children don’t get enough attentions from their parents, they become wild children (drug abuse, sex under age of consent) and they don’t have any affection and respect towards their parents and anybody else in the family.
    So, a stay-at-home mom is like a God-sent angel… She can deal with children craziness and various kinds of tantrums (which I doubt I would be able to deal with), gives her children basic education ( mainly character), sometimes even working from home to support her family.
    How I wish my mom could do that for me when I was young, but she couldn’t coz she had to work to support the family too. I didn’t blame her, I knww she wanted to be a stay-at-home mom too but she couldn’t, atleast she tried to be there for us after office hours.
    I always don’t understand why feminism nowadays forces women to compete with men in everything, even for jobs.
    We are not made to compete each other, but to complete each other.
    Oh, but I’m just a “stupid asian” girl, who’s willing to be dominated by men (like most American girls say to me)

    1. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:43 am

      studies show kids from stay at home moms have as much problems as others.

      1. Franciscanesta November 7, 2015 at 10:56 pm

        Of course the problems will happen if the “stay at home” moms spend more time shopping and gossiping with her cliques rather than educate their children. I know many women who are “house wives and stay at home moms” who prefer to entrust their children to playgroups and baby sitters (nanny) so they are free to satisfy their shopping & spa habits, even gossiping with their fellow “stay at home moms” who never really stay at home.
        Children make problems at school and society coz they are craving their mom’s attentions.

  45. Terrance Kenallen October 22, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    We all know these points already. Most of what is said here is true. However men will never be told not to work in the workforce. Women will never take up the mantle of male labor 100% in our society. Doing so would be like telling a slave to stop working and sit on the front porch and sip lemonade while the master picks the cotton. Women like men doing most of the work and assisting were they can while demanding equal pay for it. They have the game the way they want it but since men on average contribute more to productivity they still make more money when averaged compared to women. The trick that feminists play is they want to make the public believe that women contribute equally and entitled to equal pay. Consider if we did pay women equal regardless of their contribution. Men would begin to disengage in the workforce due to a reduction in earning potential leading to a recession. As a response the Fed would lower interest rates, the treasury would print more money, and the increased pay that women just received would be severely devalued. In an attempt to recover the economy, industry would be forced to move back to traditional payroll structures and men would be re-hired at higher salaries than women so lure them back resulting in the same pay rates as previous. In essence, noting would change. It’s a free market and unless you institute communism it will not happen. And we all know how communism ends in failor.

    1. jzak95 October 23, 2015 at 11:32 am

      Of course Communism doesn’t work, but does that stop leftists? Judging by how popular Bernie Sanders is it’s quite possible we could be living in a Communist/Socialist nation before long.

    2. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:42 am

      you have a weird way of viewing things. You think men are entitled to most of the good of the earth, and women to much little.
      And instead of encouraging them to work more so to be entitled to more, you refuse to see their mother hood as deservant of an equal pay and also want to bar them from outside the house work.
      you just are acting in an unfair fashion.

  46. Lucky October 22, 2015 at 10:23 pm

    I’ve presented a similar thought experiment to people: Let’s ban men from the military and have an all-female force. Would that improve the military? What if we banned women from the military and had an all-male force. Would that make the military worse?

    1. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:39 am

      with todays technology, it would change absolutely nothing.

      1. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:40 am

        now wars are done with drones anyway, arent they,
        but even if we stick to ground combat, the only thing that could happen is slightly more deaths.
        otherwise wars are not won by the quantity of muscles you have my friend. far from it.

  47. Heinrich von Geobbels October 22, 2015 at 10:30 pm

    One other point I’d like to make:

    One good reason that women should not work is because they simply aren’t good at it. Though there are traditional roles that women have held for ages such as in nursing or the secretarial pool, in my line of work, putting women in leadership roles has been a disaster.

    I talked to ten men who operated as CEO’s in small businesses and asked them one simple question: what percentage of conflict in your business comes from each gender. Without exception, I was given a number between 85 and 95% of company conflict being started and promoted by women.

    Now do your own experiment. Go to where you work and take a look at your Human Resources Dept. Today I’m finding the majority of HR offices are being run by women and if you ask your coworkers how they feel about HR, you’re going to get an earful and an education. HR is responsible for recruiting, screening, interviewing and placing workers and women are not going to hire the best person for the job, but the person who shows affinity for their SJW worldview and if they have a choice between hiring a woman over a man, they will regardless of how well qualified the man will be.

    I also advise a number of 501(c)3’s (nonprofit organizations) and if I am forced to deal with a woman CEO, I know I’m in serious weeds. I once put together a full fundraising package for an exotic animal rescue group and explained in detail the simple step-by-step process by which they would secure debt reduction and an inevitable endowment that would fund them in perpetuity.

    After an hour, the woman CEO in front of the board thanked me and told me to leave. She had decided then and there to do her own fundraising by holding a “psychic fair.”

    I blanched, fought for and achieved emotional control, and calmly reminded them that any fundraiser should share the same theme as their organization.

    “Oh, no problem,” I was told. “We’re going to get a psychic to tell our visitors what the animals are thinking.”

    I was ushered off the premises, they had their psychic fair, and they went belly up in less than six months. I never was paid for that work or even got a thank you card.

    The other stories I could tell.

    Bottom line, I don’t work with women CEO’s. Life is just too short.

    1. spicynujac October 23, 2015 at 2:35 pm

      What area of the country do you work in? I volunteer with a nonprofit group in the SE USA facing a financial crisis and we are about to replace our CEO.

      1. Heinrich von Geobbels October 23, 2015 at 6:11 pm

        I’m in the northeast.

    2. Batman3.0 October 24, 2015 at 2:44 pm

      “I talked to ten men who operated as CEO’s in small businesses and asked them one simple question: what percentage of conflict in your business comes from each gender. Without exception, I was given a number between 85 and 95% of company conflict being started and promoted by women.”
      It’s at least 95 percent.
      The thing is over 90 percent of these women do not work or have any focus. They come in late, gossip, drop the ball, blame others for their failures, and leave early.
      I don’t complain about it because the company get’s what they deserve for hiring and promoting these parasites over men. I go out of my way to not help them or the white knights in the office that serve them but I will help other men.
      Naturally men produce and women consume that’s why the career women experiment will never work.

    3. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:39 am

      except it aint true.
      People are more forgiving to conflict coming from men and dont name it as such.

    4. Elton November 2, 2015 at 8:24 am

      Yes how in line you are with their SJW worldview but also it helps you if you give off the idea that you are a bad boy or player time. It helped me land a job although I am not like that in real life… just plain cynical and very angry lately.

  48. KansasBred78 October 23, 2015 at 2:57 am

    Roosh has read “The Manipulated Man”. He knows that women, as theorized in this impressive work, are essentially lazy, parasitic creatures who have benefited through men’s largess throughout the history of our evolved simien species. We are forced to share the planet during our lives with these vastly inferior specimins and to oblige their infantile basket case existences because that is essentially all that we have.

    1. Tom McWonald October 24, 2015 at 7:06 am

      According to many modern studies of pre-historic societies (i.e. ‘hunter gatherer’), the role of females in providing nutrition for survival of the group has actually been vastly underestimated. And before you ask if this is a feminist anthropo-conspiracy, why don’t you ask whether the male-dominated science of 19th century has resulted in a male bias? Or is that too obvious?

      1. Vivian October 24, 2015 at 5:03 pm

        Nawp, we just sat on our asses eating Bon bons and watching “Caves of Our Lives ” lol

        Kansas bred is emotionally underdeveloped.. And that’s being kind.

    2. Vivian October 24, 2015 at 4:58 pm

      Women have always worked and contributed to society. In ancient times, we gathered while you hunted, often times supplying more food to the tribe than men did. True men did the hard labor, but women did the tedious time consuming jobs. We were never parasitic and lazy as you so foolishly assume.

      Ironically, during your first nine months on this planet you were a parasite that utterly relied on a woman for your very existence. You are pretty ungrateful there aren’t you buddy. ?

      1. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:37 am

        women hunted a lot of small animals, if not most of them, in ancient times. MEn went for the big show off animals that did not constitute most of the tribe’s nourishment but proved their rank,

  49. Zelcorpion October 23, 2015 at 5:22 am

    In addition to an economic and scientific collapse such a country could be easily invaded by their neighboring countries. Within years Mexico could simply march into the US and the all-female media starved for some testosterone would welcome them with open arms.

    Women are ridiculously stupid in that regard. They get something and then they realize belatedly that they hate it. You cannot leave those decisions to them.

  50. lalabamba October 23, 2015 at 12:56 pm

    Maybe you could argue that German nationalism is kept down thanks to Angela Merkel, and in some respects it is her demeanor that is keeping the EU together. If German pride resurges strongly, it could bode badly for the whole continent.

  51. A Room Without Windows October 23, 2015 at 5:42 pm

    Another point to add to this: Women’s massive amount of disability because their bodies aren’t cut out for even simple tasks. Look at all those women you see with those arm braces due to carpal tunnel. I remember reading something by Days of Broken Arrows on the forum about this.

    1. Tom McWonald October 24, 2015 at 6:42 am

      This must be why women on average live longer than men. Oh wait, now I’m confused…

    2. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:36 am

      tasks are made for men in our society. If society was made for women, there would be more tools and ways to alleviate hard physical work and stuff would weigh less.

  52. jq747 October 23, 2015 at 7:35 pm

    I understand the point of the article. However I will say this. Working in Tech, which of course is male dominated, it happened that I’ve worked with a disproportionately high number of women. I’ve also worked in film & TV, also alongside numerous women. I’ve even worked *for* women. In my experience, in those fields at least, women are neither more useful nor useless than the men I’ve worked with. Physical strength is a definite factor.. for example when building sets, handling materials and power tools.. but even here, the physical difference between an average man and woman is the same as between a big guy and a little guy. And the difference between a woman who’s never handled a drill and a guy who’s a carpenter, is the same between a guy who’s hard-working and a lazy ass clown. The kicker here is, if the woman is hard-working, she can be trained to use a drill.

    Don’t get me wrong.. if men all downed tools tomorrow, the world would quickly enter a dark age, and probably wouldn’t recover. But if women downed tools tomorrow.. Oh no, our leave and training would take a few days longer to get processed thru HR. The apartment might get messy and we’d have to get takeout, but find me a guy who wouldn’t prefer it that way anyhow. That doesn’t mean women are useless, it means men are undervalued in our feminist “you go grrl!!” society. As for nursing, I’ve no doubt that men could — and would — quickly step up to the role if the need arose.

    Oh BTW, you might want to take “farming” off your list of things women don’t do. Most farms, even large ranches, are mom-and-pop operations, with the women taking on tough physically demanding roles alongside the men.. if they don’t, no other bastard will. Google “jillaroo”. So if farming women downed tools, we may well be in danger of starving to death.

    1. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:34 am

      it doesnt mean men are undervalued, it means we don’t blame the underachievers for being kept from achieving in this society.
      Men liked to keep for themself the domains that are the most essential and have the most value, and present the qualities required to work in those fields as male to make women flee from them and keep their monopol.
      Inconsciously or consciously, they are doing that.

      1. jq747 October 26, 2015 at 5:45 pm

        This is a common refrain by feminists who go into Liberal Arts instead of STEM, then write papers complaining there are no women in STEM.. “because patriarchy!!” It does nothing to explain how domains which are not considered to have much value — like laboring, manufacturing, mining, or any dangerous/hard/life-shortening jobs — are also male dominated. Indeed, today there are far more women in high-value fields than crappy low value-fields, with domestic service and prostitution being the notable exceptions (and even then it’s mainly poor and/or migrant women lumbered with that shit).

        So feminists demand arbitrary gender quotas to fight this “fleeing of women”. But I noticed that gender quotas apply only to high-value high-paying fields, and never to low-status fields.. I wonder why that is? Could it be feminist groups are not interested in forcing women into fields which are physically tough, dangerous, low-paying and ultimately shorten their lifespans?

        Until feminist groups, and women in general, make a concerted effort to get equal numbers of women into *all* fields, including the highly undesirable ones, and not just the highly desirable ones, then articles like this will find their mark. And feminist apologists will have no valid argument beyond yelling “patriarchy, fuck face!!!!!”

        ps. Instead of wasting time spamming every post in the comments, maybe you should set a good example for women and get a job as a garbage collector, HV lines(wo)man, or bricklayer.

      2. zocli michael November 3, 2015 at 2:21 pm

        men have created these domains, women created shit and dare to say men keep them away from what they have created. maybe women should create their own stuff instead of wanting what men have made.

  53. Titan000 October 23, 2015 at 8:48 pm

    Men should be superior in rank naturally in accordance to their contributions and role in building civilization in the 1st place as well as the fact that the essential quality of masculinity that is dominance which ironically enough ensures balance with the feminine which will naturally dominate in “gender equal” societies. Men and women are complementary with unique strengths and weaknesses. Neither one can replace the other.

    1. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:32 am

      men should be superior as tribute for keeping women inferior for years.
      hahahahah arent you dumb.
      – plus if achievement was to be rewarded, the greatest one is having physically produced all humanity, and that is what women do in their body.

      1. Titan000 October 27, 2015 at 2:01 am

        Having sex and getting pregnant is not an achievement its the investment in children as they are growing up that is an achievement. And yeah, if the sexes are really equal how the hell did men subjugate women for thousands upon thousands of years?(which I think is bullshit narrative)

  54. Tom McWonald October 24, 2015 at 5:32 am

    If your funny little ‘thesis’ (hehe) is correct, it should be easy to validate. Let’s look at modern societies where women have little value other than child rearing and home care, and are prevented from education and paid work. We can determine if they are more stable, just and economically viable than those where the conditions for women are as described in the article. Let’s look at a country of origin for our friend Mr Roosh’s parents: Iran. By any measure, a country and society to aspire to! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    1. jq747 October 24, 2015 at 6:00 am

      Good point sir, but your comparison is incorrect. Even in today’s 1st world countries, a majority of the jobs which are necessary to keep the wheels of modern life turning are done by men. There’s a saying: Modern society is 3 square meals away from collapse and barbarism. If men were suddenly banned from doing their jobs, it would take a lot longer than 3 days for women to step up and fill those roles. Even during the world wars, when millions of women went into blue collar roles like labor and manufacturing, they still needed experienced older men as foremen and trainers to oversee the operations. OTOH, women dominate in fields like the service industry, ancillary white-collar office jobs, and child care.. jobs we could conceivably do without for a long while.

      1. Tom McWonald October 24, 2015 at 6:15 am

        Thanks for your polite reply. My point is not that men are obsolete from economic life, but that in general terms, GDP has increased in those countries where women are educated, free to vote, have access to childcare and maternity leave, and have access to equal opportunity employment. If in doubt, review the economic growth of nations where these conditions became the norm in 20th C. Employment of females is in general terms a result of corporate interests recognising that women are viable economic units, despite the interruption of childbirth. And governments recognise this fact by mandating paid maternity leave.

      2. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:30 am

        jobs that require talent attract men, because women are afraid by domains requiring talent, as they know people will consider them a danger and criticize any failings of them in an unjust fashion in these domains.
        It is hard to be strutinized on your talent that people don’t see in a job that requires talent.
        Women dont have confidence in their talent, and surely it will change.

  55. MCGOO October 24, 2015 at 12:45 pm

    Great article Roosh. Ancient societies formed with man being the head of woman. The societies all crumbled when hypergamy went unchecked. They fell short of making it to the stars when two things happened simultaneously: man exhibited his own form of ‘hypergamy’ before god as his women became disobedient before her master – man.

    Modern man again was poised for the stars but soon fizzled out on the launchpad. First wave feminism kicked off and went unchecked at the same time we entered the bustle of the industrial revolution. A vast comfortable prison borg was built with each notch accomplished toward the goal of reaching the stars and becoming ‘universe’ man. But we remained as only ‘world’ man amongst the enlightened albeit disobedient ‘worldly’ woman.

    Like the ancient societies, the model for woman to remain in service to man and man to remain in service to god was broken. Modern technological societies do something that the ancients never did. We now build amusement parks to pretend we’re flying in space, a dream forefeitted. Attempt after crash and burn attempt of loading spacecraft with eager men and we witness GOD’S LAW in action. A metaphysical law is broken when we attempt to export hypergamous culture elsewhere. HE made those laws too.

    WOMEN STAY HERE, SHUT UP AND TIT FEED. High flying women aren’t representative of God’s law. Putting a woman on a space shuttle is like packing a wedge of pork into a can of beans just to make it unkosher. At best we all now play like women and children at Earth’s amusement park. But any real attempt to venture beyond the surly bonds and GOD CAN SEE if the man wears the proper space suit OR if he comes as he has before, stumbling before his gates wearing a heavy COAT OF PUSSY. Nor can man become a real king donning a ROBE OF PUSSY. Nor can he have eyes to see with A VULVA HOOD obscuring his head down to his nose and moustache.

    Yes pussy is the lube of life BUT IT AIN’T ROCKET FUEL. Ancient ruins resemble our own ‘flying machines in pieces on the ground’. Our civilization still has a heartbeat though and there’s time to reclaim our women. Men buckling down and wresting control of woman IS THE ULTIMATE service to the Lord. He will reward us with the stars.

    And then there’s this absolutely loveable little spacegirl.
    https://youtu.be/wxDy9da6F9c
    We all know that her red space suit is only make believe pajamas. She awaits the return of her awesome space man. She’s holding a spatula behind her back if you look closely. The place sells quite fine kitchen wares. What man wouldn’t risk trecherous meteor showers to come home to that. MEEOW!

  56. Batman3.0 October 24, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    Amen Roosh!
    The points in this article should be drilled into the heads of every little boy and girl.
    Males and females are not the same and have their place.

    1. Vivian October 24, 2015 at 9:29 pm

      Do you really want to live in a third world economy? Have you thought of the long term consequences of taking women out of the workforce? What would happen? We would die a slow horrible death. The entire economy would collapse. That’s what. You really don’t look at the full picture do you?

      1. Batman3.0 October 25, 2015 at 9:05 pm

        The economy would not collapse, it would improve and so would the family structure.

      2. Vivian October 25, 2015 at 10:12 pm

        Working women contribute enormously to the economy. If you believe in capitalism of course. Retail would sink if it wasn’t for us.

        While I don’t think women should be hold masculine jobs( cop, firefighter, construction work, etc etc. ) we do make better nurses, secretaries, social workers., etc etc than men. Cause we are more intuitive, empathetic and better at multitasking. There are a few exceptions to this rule. But it is rare
        These jobs are an intrinsic part of a civilized society

        On a lighter note- Are you gonna work at the makeup counter? You gonna do my nails? You gonna examine my gi gi ? Well I would die of cervical cancer before I would let a man up my Coochie – coo- my husband is the only one allowed there.. (and I am thankful ever so much for female doctors being educated and allowed to practice along with their male counterparts)

        Cause while men are awesome and wonderful, women have a place in this world as well. And it’s not just in the kitchen.

      3. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:28 am

        women are not that better at services.
        It’s just that they are brought up facing discrimination and understand empathy better for that reason.
        But the same could happen to men with similar results.
        Men are very good psychologists and social workers.
        And women are very good at maths and physics – when they imagine themselves as typical risk taking males, studies prove.
        SHows that it is related to mindset.

      4. Vivian October 26, 2015 at 10:01 pm

        Sure some of the occupations I mentioned maybe gender neutral- men . But who in your opinion makes a better cop, firefighter , soldier

      5. Batman3.0 October 26, 2015 at 7:26 pm

        …but men are essential. If men stopped working the human race would go extinct in less than a decade.
        On a lighter note…you know each one of those jobs and businesses that cater to women has at least one male (that’s gay) that outperforms the other females. LOL!

      6. Vivian October 26, 2015 at 8:35 pm

        And so are women. For a civilized culture. And that is what we live in.

        And women were essential in the past as well. We were and are the vessels of the future. We gathered, (more food than you think) took care of the children, made your clothes.. Etc etc. And still you mock our contributions. Wanna stop this war? It is really simple. Stop demeaning us. Stop mocking what you perceive as women’s work. Stop saying humantiess survival relies solely on you- a cause it DOES not. It relies on both genders working in harmony together.

      7. Vivian October 26, 2015 at 9:02 pm

        On a fluffy note-Lol..gay males often get a free pass as many women seem to think they are over qualified in the beauty industry- due to their being well- gay. Case in point- two of my (very temporary) worst hairdressers were gay men. All my gfs thought these fellows were Gods gift to women-‘not so

        Why would you bring queers into th picture anyway. Thought we were talking “straight”😉😉😉

      8. Batman3.0 October 26, 2015 at 9:47 pm

        To prove a point.
        I thought Gods gift to women was a man that brings home the bacon and takes care of his family…not in America anymore.

      9. Vivian October 26, 2015 at 11:04 pm

        Well men still are the primary bread winners in a family type setting- women- married and single- contribute greatly to the economy – we work and buy stuff.. No big- Like I said, we need each other … Nothing can replace a man in a woman’s life. and vice versa. I am frankly tired of each gender trying to best each other.

      10. Vivian October 27, 2015 at 12:32 am

        In short we are Gods gift to each other. ..

    2. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:26 am

      exactly, and women’s place is being men servants isnt it?
      how convenient for a psychopath to think that.

      1. Batman3.0 October 26, 2015 at 7:11 pm

        You’re close but you forgot to include cooking, cleaning, and raising children. The man provides for his family.

      2. 123 March 4, 2016 at 2:32 pm

        Show me where are men who provide ))) Men are afraid so much for their money. Not all of course. Kind of paranoia.
        Woman tells ” I love you”
        Man answers ” No, you want my money. I will not give you anything” )))

      3. 123 March 4, 2016 at 11:23 am

        luckily not all men are psychopats 🙂
        Men require:
        1. Woman has to cook
        2. Has to provide herself but some men want women don’t work. Question maybe men can teach us to print money?.Because at the same time they don’t like if we work. Lot of men have
        psychological complex that women want from them only money. In general such kind of men are single, they are persuaded all women are so bad but they are best men in the world.
        3. Men are obsessed with idea that woman should be a submissive. Maybe they all read “50 shades of grey”))) In this case you have to read it one more time very attentivly.
        4. They want attractive nice women but they think the beauty is an obviouse thing and don’t think how much efforts women makes in order to look good.
        5. Men hate feminists but at the same time some men are so lazy that even dont want to work.
        So dear women we have to earn money in order men don’t spend on us, to make sex with them straight away after first date, to cook for them, to be always in a good mood, to make children with them, to make house work…Keep it in mind ))))

        I respect men and more than that i like men . I could continue this list of men’s requirements but i would like to ask . Men what can u give or propose to woman in order women sutisfy your requirements?

        The conclusion is: With man i want to feel and live good, to live bad i can without man. More than that i am not a feminist ))))

  57. Andrea October 24, 2015 at 9:41 pm

    I had a viceral reaction to this article and a lot of the comments. Pretty depressing to know this is how some men feel about us.

    1. sasha October 26, 2015 at 4:25 am

      don’t worry my dear, they are crazy and a small minority. I am not saying they are not dangerous, but the more dangerous are those, more numerous, that believe things similar to this just less worse but still bad.
      Still those this completely blind are a very small minority.

    2. I'm a cat therapist October 28, 2015 at 3:47 pm

      I’m sure you can cook a mean pancake breakfast, fresh from the box. That is if you’re accustomed to waking up before 11am. There is hope for you.

      1. Andrea October 28, 2015 at 7:41 pm

        Thanks. I feel so much better now.

    3. Words Don't Come Easy November 5, 2015 at 4:32 pm

      I’m sure you can’t cook round chapatis.

      1. Andrea November 5, 2015 at 9:20 pm

        I’m sure you can’t cook chiles rellenos.

      2. Words Don't Come Easy November 6, 2015 at 10:23 pm

        That’s not my job. It’s yours. xD

      3. Andrea November 7, 2015 at 3:37 pm

        What’s your job again?

  58. Challet B. October 26, 2015 at 2:21 am

    I really like this blog. Each time I come here to read an article or two, I feel like I’m time travelling like a hundred years ago. Thank you for making this possible.

  59. chloe October 26, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    My only problem with eliminating women from the workforce is that women are actually needed for certain jobs. Women are the main force in jobs like midwifery and community care of the elderly, children and the disabled. It’s also very important that we have female doctors and women working in gyneacology and obstetric care. We also need women working in female based establishments, like female schools and prisons and women are needed as part of the police force to handle and search females. Females also make up most of the nursing profession. The nursing profession would sink badly without women in the workforce because a majority of men are not going to manually feed and bathe people, help people go to the toilet and clean up people’s bodily secretions. I think to completely remove women from the work force would have a bad effect on society. Don’t get me wrong, I think if a woman has children, her family should be her main focus. Ideally she should be at home with the children. However, there are always going to be women who remain childfree and women who are older and whose children don’t need them around all day, and society really benefits from these women working in certain fields.

  60. chloe October 26, 2015 at 2:48 pm

    “and even women who pursue medicine pick the easiest specialty like dermatology because she covets time off more than having to play real doctor by being on-call in the middle of the night when a patient has an emergency”

    This is a complete lie. Women in the medical field usually work very hard and take really good care of their patients. Here in the UK we don’t have OBs but we have midwives and they work extremely hard on maternity units. Many of them work overtime and have to attend births at any time of day or night. Nurses are also similar working overtime and attending to patients even when their shift is supposed to be finished and working day and night. Nursing is a very stressful and demanding job. I agree with some of what you said in this article, but having women in the medical field is crucial and women in the medical field often understand very well what their duty of care is to patients and they do work hard. I think you are underestimating them. How do you suppose we appropriately take care of female patients without women working in the medical field? Do you suggest for example that all gynecologists and obstetric doctors and midwives and nurses should be men? Such a call would be grossly inappropriate and many women would refuse to seek treatment out of fear and embarrassment if they could not see a female. Not to mention the potential for sexual abuse of patients if all these staff were male. I have known several women and children who have been outright sexually abused by male doctors and I will not see one for any sort of physical medical examination. You know and I know the biological differences between men and women and men are a lot more likely to be sexual predators than women are. For the most part I agree with you when it comes to some of your traditionalist views but women do not have to be completely eliminated from the workforce. There will always be women who are not currently caring for young children and who society could benefit from having in these jobs.

  61. no no no October 27, 2015 at 12:56 am

    the right to work has nothing to do with the natural order, it’s about choice. if a woman would like to be economically independent then so be it, if she prefers to not be economically independent and put forth effort as a household leader/caretaker, that is fine too, and same goes for men. your analysis of “contribution” is also contrite; what do you expect to come out of people who were outlawed from doing anything for thousands of years? humans aren’t stuck on the darwinian paddleboat anymore, the human species is capable of so much more than this squabbling over whether or not men and women deserve rights. it’s pretty basic: without either gender, there is NO humanity. without the variations in between, there is NO survival. EQUALITY is not about giving up power, it is a COOPERATION of all people to the betterment of everybody instead of the DESTRUCTION of other human beings under misguided and outdated social contexts. if you cannot understand that, then you really must believe that we are doomed as a species.

  62. Bashar October 27, 2015 at 11:45 am

    You guys can whine and whine and whine like children, but in general, most women will NEVER and don’t care to go back to being the submissive motherly housewife you want them to be. The 1940’s are over and time goes forward, not backwards. Accept this reality and grow up. If you hate independent well-traveled hard-working women so much, instead of whining on the interwebs, go out and find the virgin submissive housewife you wish to marry. No one is stopping any of you.

    1. Elmer T. Jones October 30, 2015 at 10:05 am

      I did exactly that and published a popular essay about my experiences on The Spearhead titled “A Man Wants a Wife, Not a Co-Worker”.

      Sadly the Spearhead is no longer active but a copy the essay exists on this very forum :

      https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19401.html

  63. greek god October 27, 2015 at 1:33 pm

    My favorite math problem to do is the following;

    Throughout the course of a lifetime the average American will have over 10+ jobs in their “career”. Seems like there is quite a bit of instability here. If you have three children, your happiness skyrockets, and your investment unfolds before your eyes along with paying you back almost daily.

    It is so very interesting that feminism targets the mid to upper middle class girl who will go to college and have enough intelligence to be a “productive member of corporate America” but doesn’t go after the low socioeconomic or elite what so ever.

    Meanwhile, the lower end of the society breeds like crazy and is subsidized by the corporate drone.

    Just another measure of population replacement.

    1. Etc October 29, 2015 at 1:30 pm

      All very true. However, what do you mean by “population replacement”?

    2. Elmer T. Jones October 30, 2015 at 9:55 am

      This infographic encapsulates your comment :

  64. Etc October 29, 2015 at 1:29 pm

    Roosh, gave you past this idea through your mother? What does she think?

  65. Lalitaditya Muktapida October 30, 2015 at 2:57 am

    Welcome to the Islamic Emirates of America

  66. Elmer T. Jones October 30, 2015 at 9:52 am

    Roosh, at the risk of being forward I am posting a link to an overview of my recently published book Employment Game, which provides practical workarounds to the challenges men encounter while searching for work in the feminized economy. I would be interested in penning a ROK essay on my publishing experience which would be focused on the production aspect of writing a book.

    You can download the 60-page preview here :

    https://employmentgame.wordpress.com/2015/10/30/employment-game-preview-download/

  67. Cara October 30, 2015 at 4:50 pm

    Taking away women’s voting rights is one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard and doesn’t even pertain to the message of this article.

    Most men don’t share your traditional views that women shouldn’t be in the work force. They feel like women should have to make an equal effort in contributing financially to the household.

    As a woman, I disagree. Biologically men and women are designed to handle stress differently. I study medical science in university and work in the service industry at the same time. I hate it. It stresses me out. I would much rather stay at home and raise children, but finding a man who doesn’t have the expectation that I work is extremely difficult.

    If women were simply given the option to be stay at home mom’s without the negative stigmas, more would.

  68. Cara Huggett October 30, 2015 at 5:42 pm

    Taking away women’s voting rights is one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard and doesn’t even pertain to the message of this article.

    Most men don’t share your traditional views that women shouldn’t be in the work force. They feel like women should have to make an equal effort in contributing financially to the household.

    As a woman, I disagree. Biologically men and women are designed to handle stress differently. I study medical science in university and work in the service industry at the same time. I hate it. It stresses me out. I would much rather stay at home and raise children, but finding a man who doesn’t have the expectation that I work is extremely difficult.

    If women were simply given the option to be stay at home mom’s without the negative stigmas, more would.

  69. C.darcy October 31, 2015 at 1:19 am

    Tho there are some valid points in this article, I dont believe that u have any actual facts to back up your statements. And it is unfair to say that they are meaningless in the workforce I am a tradesman and we work very hard and labor intensive. Saying that I have worked with quite a few women how can’t most certainly pull there weight.

  70. Daniel Barger October 31, 2015 at 2:40 am

    Don’t forget that even if ALL women were removed from the workforce there would still be gay men to rock the boat and stir up trouble.

  71. Nick Peter November 2, 2015 at 7:55 am

    I agree with you Roosh. I used to be pro-equality kinda guy before marriage. But after my (arrange) marriage with this girl who happened to be a typical “I wana climb the corporate ladder” type of girl… my views have drastically changed. I dont know whether women realize this or not, but corporate world strips women of their femininity. I hate to say this but sometimes when Im dealing with my wife i feel like im dealing with a man… like a competitor. It’s so against mother nature.

  72. Hejsssaa November 10, 2015 at 11:04 am

    The poorest countries are where girls are not Allowed Education and work.

  73. Hejsssaa November 10, 2015 at 11:05 am

    If girls are given a chance…

    TO STAY IN SCHOOL,
    GET ACCESS TO HEALTH SERVICES,
    DELAY MARRIAGE AND CHILDBIRTH,
    … it’s not only them who benefit – so do their children, families, communities, and countries.

    The girl effect.

  74. Hejsssaa November 10, 2015 at 11:06 am

    IF YOUNG NIGERIAN WOMEN HAD THE SAME EMPLOYMENT RATES AS YOUNG MEN, THE COUNTRY WOULD ADD US$13.9 BILLION TO ITS GDP ANNUALLY.

    Stop talking like this Rooshv until you visit a nigerian ghetto. You are lucky you live In the West.

  75. Hejsssaa November 10, 2015 at 11:08 am

    When a girl is better educated, has access to sexual and reproductive healthcare information and services, has access and control of economic assets, is safe from violence and exploitation, and has the capabilities and confidence to make positive choices, she can break the cycle of poverty.

  76. KyukiYoshida December 22, 2015 at 3:23 pm

    i can’t imagine how frail the ego and small the penis is amongst a group of men that believe women having equal rights is the equivalent of “dis empowering white men.” Even more sad the fact that hundreds of women have contributed to society, creating everything needed for a computer to function including coding and language, the rocket propulsion system, and all of our communications technology needed for phones and Internet to work plus many more. Yet somehow the fact that a woman created ground breaking technology that led us into new eras is somehow worth less, and less important than a man making them. That’s completely asinine. What’s even more sad is that with 8 billion people with individual talents, needs, and personality you’re self centered enough to think men, even useless, whiny, bitchy ones, are the most important and the only ones that matter. No self respecting woman would ever give the time of day to a bunch of dudes that only view her as a walking orifice and nightly depository, rather than thinking, breathing individuals with feelings, goals and talents. But that’s the problem in the grand scheme of things isn’t it? You’re self entitled fee fees are hurt by capable women. But instead of looking in the mirror and gripping the reins of your own lives. You’re too busy trying to take the rights of other humans away. If men were truly strong, capable and logical, they wouldn’t be so threatened by women, and wouldn’t spend their days trying to enslave half the population.

  77. James January 4, 2016 at 9:02 am

    Isn’t it just lovely how people think they should be able to control your life. I mean come on, women have dreams and ambitions just as much as men do, who says its someone else’s right to be able to determine who gets to follow those dreams. Things may have been better for men when women stayed at home, but what about women, (like my great grandmother) who all her life dreamed of something more, but couldn’t achieve it because of the sexist views that women were incapable of anything other than cooking, cleaning, and child care.

  78. Lady Ruin January 11, 2016 at 4:27 pm

    Wow, the amount of hate towards women in this comment section is appalling.

    All I got from this article is that the jobs that women typically do are not as essential to society as the ones that men typically do. Like it or not, it’s the truth. Women prefer easy work with flexible hours so they can continue to have a life outside of their job.

    I’m not exactly sure how a woman having her own money is damaging to a man. Is it a fragile ego? Perhaps the “need” (which is more of a want, really) to be better than everyone else? Constantly comparing yourself to others is the surest way to end up perpetually unhappy.

  79. char January 31, 2016 at 7:45 am

    I’m a woman. 100 percent AGREE with this article. When i was a kid, all i wanted to do was be a mum when i grew up. I played with dolls and played imaginary games of “families”. When i was a teen i still wanted to be a mum and a wife when i “grew up”. I wanted to raise my kids, clean my house, have beautiful gardens and cook wholesome meals for my family. I wanted to treat my man like a king because he had worked so hard all day while the kids were at school and i was at home cleaning or running errands.
    But age 17 came along and my teachers are telling me that home duties isn’t a career and that i need to think of a real career and higher education. I completed year 12 and studied beauty therapy as it was the only thing that i thought i would enjoy. Nope i hated it. Got a job in retail and would see all the mums and bubs come into my shop and i just knew, everytime that i saw them, that i just wanted to be a mum.

    12 years on and I’m a mum to 3 kids. But society is making it very hard for me to continue to stay at home with them. I wanted to be at home helping them with homework after school, having dinner prepared, coming home to a spotless house..
    I don’t think its going to happen and they will probably be in afterschool care.

    Thanks alot you hairy feminists

    1. Rainbow fart sprinkles. December 31, 2017 at 1:20 am

      You chose your life. The only person you have to blame is yourself!! It’s not women’s fault for you making poor choices. Own up to what you did and grow the heck up!

  80. Juan February 11, 2016 at 4:28 pm

    Ho – lee – shit.
    Is this for real?

  81. Dave_Hudson February 19, 2016 at 9:10 am

    You my friend are stuck in 1906. I’m sure your argument will get you very far.

    Have a good day.

  82. Brian March 4, 2016 at 8:33 am

    Roosh has an intantion to annihilate all women.LOL.
    My wife doesn’t work. We have 3 children. No time to work.
    If you men are able to provide your woman in the right way do it. Choose the right woman! You will discover how much more you can get.
    I am thoroughly persuaded that plenty women in the world could refuse to work. What a man can offer? In 21century men do not want to pay for women even in restarants but from another hand men dream about feminine women.
    I am a very successful man. My family has a stable base.
    I don’t care why my wife wants to change curtains that cost 2000$ or why she buys hundredth pair of shoes if it makes her happy. I know she is a perfect mother, wife. I am damn happy man, I love my wife. If one day she decides she wants to work i will uphold.

  83. Sangelia March 27, 2016 at 12:47 am

    Better have a solution for those males who believe that the woman should support them.
    As well as a solution for those males who run off on their woman. Especially if she is the mom of his offspring.
    Too many males are peter pans. They either think that the woman should be the one with the main paycheck and or they abandon the family.

  84. Sangelia October 26, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    And what do you propose about those moms who end up being single moms. Be they raped and got pregnant, or they were abandoned by their husband(either he walked out on her, or died). Or those who were sweet talked into having sex by some eff faced jerkwad who used that gal as a ‘dumpster’.

  85. Avantika December 27, 2016 at 5:19 am

    You can have an opinion- narrow or progressive. But you can’t take away human rights. The basic right to have a choice. I will forever pray that your wishes/opinions/hypothesis never come true. You keep your opinions and I will keep mine. Good day.

  86. me January 12, 2017 at 11:32 pm

    Since when are women not good at science and logic?

  87. Primal February 12, 2018 at 8:09 am

    This is a great [and predatory] harvest. Collectivists won’t make it.

  88. panait ciprian February 15, 2018 at 1:27 am

    How about they work part time only? I think this would make more sense.