Will She Keep The Baby?

Previously: Thoughts On Ejaculating Inside A Girl

There are two questions I ask a girl when it’s time to ditch the condom.

First Question: “Are you on the pill?”

What’s the point of having a main squeeze if you can’t have unprotected sex? If she wasn’t on the pill and were to start it the next day, remember it takes at least a month for the infertility to kick in. Unfortunately I estimate that only 20% of casual dating relationships reach the one month mark.

The second question is a little more involved, and I try to find a moment when she’s likely to answer truthfully because my future well-being may depend on it.

Second Question: “If you got pregnant right now, what would you do?”

Note the phrasing of the question. I don’t want to lead the witness with my desired answer. I’m searching for the truth here.

There’s two components to her answer that you must take care to note: her actual words and the time it takes for her to answer. You probably guessed that the less important part of the answer are her words, which most of the time will be along the lines of “I’d take care of it.” Sure, at that moment in space time when she’s talking to you she wouldn’t consider having the baby, but a real pregnancy can change a woman’s mind. Flashbacks of teenage years spent babysitting, thoughts of baby showers and shopping for baby clothes, and ongoing nagging from mom have strong effects on a woman.

The least she could say is she’d take care of it. If a girl says she would “think about it” then she might as well be planning to have a baby with you. The best possible answer for me is when a girl describes how an unexpected little Rooshy would ruin her plans for a more successful career, future travel plans, better furniture, a larger condominium, and sexier shoes.

The time it takes for her to answer your question tells you if she has given serious thought about getting pregnant or not. If she answers quickly with something that feels like a prepared statement then you can place strong weight into her answer. But if she takes just a couple seconds to reply that means she is searching not for the real answer but probably the one you want to hear. Or it could be one of the girls that I recently dated, who said she’s keep the baby and not tell me. She said it would be “none of your business.” I kid you not.

Even if you never ejaculate inside a woman go ahead and ask her anyway because how about if your pre-jizz is so potent that it has enough sperm to create life? I think that’s a myth, by the way, but I don’t really have any scientific evidence to prove it (i.e. please don’t take my word for it).

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isn’t it a bit contradictory to say you prefer to date and bareback with a woman that you’d personally abhor for her american materialistic/career-centric values?

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As far as the myth of pre-cum:
Pre-cum does not have naturally have sperm in it, but often there can be sperm that had been in your urethra from your previous ejaculation. It only takes one sperm to make a baby, and pre-cum could have thousands and thousands. Solution: pee after sex.

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Beat me to it. Assuming he has peed since the last ejaculation he is good.

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Wow. I’ve dated a couple of guys who I’d thought if I got pregnant I would have to have it and not tell them. It was not because it was none of their business though. Maybe she has done the calculation of what you’re worth and concluded that you might actually use a child to glom onto her. Not that you would but women are funny.

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I am going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the decision to keep a baby is a bit more complicated than desiring a baby shower.

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Although sex is one hundred times better unprotected, it is general idiocy for most men to bareback it. Given the rate of out of wedlock births, unwanted children, and studies saying that a significant percentage of women aren’t trying to get pregnant, but wouldn’t mind if they did either, why would you roll the dice on this?

And women who want “[a] successful career, future travel plans, better furniture, a larger condominium, and sexier shoes” are not guaranteed to get an abortion. I’d surmise a great number of them feel alone/hollow/’incomplete’ and would relish the attention/drama that a pregnancy would give them.

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Lemmonex: I am going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the decision to keep a baby is a bit more complicated than desiring a baby shower.

Maybe in a perfect world Lemmonex.

A HUGE number of women do get pregnant for the attention, the presents, the baby showers and the cute baby “stuff” they now get to go shopping for. Some get pregnant to tie down a reluctant fiance, to save a marriage or because their friends are all pregnant. Some get pregnant by accident and are just too lazy to do anything about it.

Do you honestly believe the majority of people on this planet were born to people who carefully thought out their desires and actions, deliberately planned to get pregnant and did so for the sheer joy of having a child?

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The same reason many get married.

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all right, folks, the term of art is “rawdog”, not bareback.

i learned this before critical social faux pas was made.

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Some women get pregnant because they *gasp* want children?! And there are even some men in this world that *gasp* want children! Some people ven plan their pregnancies and try very hard for lots of years. The do it not for the attention of pregnancy or a shower, but because it is totally normal to want to procreate and have a family. You people are really disgusting. Seriously.

I wonder how many of those South American ladies that Roosh is so hot for would trash their Catholic upbringings and abort a baby for him. Just remember, latinas are more fertile than their American counterparts so you may want to consider that next time you bump crotch juice encrusted uglies with una mamacita.

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Do you honestly believe the majority of people on this planet were born to people who carefully thought out their desires and actions, deliberately planned to get pregnant and did so for the sheer joy of having a child?

No, I do not, JM. I am not naive. Just trying to be a female voice on this forum. Maybe guys shouldn’t bang women who live in an alternate universe where they would havea baby for some onesies.

I know it happens, for sure. But a huge number? I think not. I cannot think of one female friend of mine who would procreate for such a reason.

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i refust to believe that i’m the only guy out there who just doesn’t mind wearing a condom. as far as i’m concerned, sex feels pretty damn good with a condom. whatever added pleasure there is to doing it the way the ol’ dirty bastard liked it, is negated by the accompanying worry.

eddie murphy said it best, having sex these days is like throwing your dick on the craps table. why take the power to protect yourself out of your own hands?

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ps – if some of the stories i hear from women are true, some of you dudes ought to be wearing two condoms just to keep yourself from cumming in three minutes.

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Get off your high horse Rajia. Of course there are people who plan their pregnancies.

Those infertile couples you cite are frequently the very ones who are more focused on the pregnancy than the baby. The people who “try very hard for lots of years” would after a reasonable amount of time and intervention, just adopt IF what they wanted was a baby to love.

Any woman who plans a home delivery is putting the “experience” ahead of the baby. Women who march in to their OB with a 6 page birth plan are doing the same.

Guys really should assume that their reproductive rights end the second they ejaculate and not be surprised by what any woman might do.

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Unprotected sex feels great. Having the ability to control and spend all of your money feels much better. Unless you are a father, or have been burnt, you have no idea what you are risking by rawdawgin.

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I understand why guys take the risk to go in raw. You have to use your head though, the one on your neck that is. Not all women are equal risk. I’ve been seeing a girl since February that I fully trust . I feel completely confident in her telling the truth about her history. She’s extremely low risk. The first time I ever put it in with nothing on all I could think was, “Oh my God! This feels SOOO different!” Condoms are a necessary evil these days, but I think if you have a low risk partner, why not live a little? FYI, I’ve found the Okamoto Crown condoms to be the closest thing to having nothing on.

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You are delusional. How did it work out for you?

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Why the hell would you trust a woman on her say about the pill?

If she has the baby, you will pay for it, she will be a mom on freeride.

Some things your write Roosh, make sense, but man this is incredibly stupid of you…

and you think you can detect dormant herpes, hepatitis, hpv, AIDS etc by looking at the girl’s face?

Guys c’mon,

5 seconds of cumming freely aint worth paying 18 years of child support…. Having to rise up to the responsibility.. or pissing fire for two weeks.

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We need that rumored male pill already!

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Hey, JM, I happen to be one of those “infertile couples” that you mention. Are you an infertile couple? Is that how you know what we all think or want? Just curious.

My desire is to have a child with my husband, and he desires the same. There is nothing wrong with that. Adoption isn’t free. It also isn’t a guarantee. And there are requirements which not all people can meet. So perhaps YOU should come down off of your high horse and quit pretending you know everyone’s intentions. You just make yourself look ridiculous.

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Nobody gives a fuck what you think. Piss off, princess.

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I’m with Lance and Dick (hmm, that sounds homoerotic). I don’t mind sex with a condom, and the pleasure gained of the safety of controlling my own destiny best I can far outweighs any lost pleasure in sex. I used to rawdog it in college and I look back and shudder at how stupid I was.

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Thank you for proving my point Rajia, although I’m sorry you are having fertility issues. Best wishes.

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me “are you on the plill?”
her “what’s a plill”
me “it’s short for please be on the pill”
her (laughs)
me stare
she has to stammer answer now

later…
her (sweating) “omg, you are king of me forever”

hahahahaha

*if she is not on pill use natural lamb condoms for better sensitivity
**ultra thin man made if she is a real “active” person

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Which point am I proving? That it is normal to want to procreate? In case you hadn’t figured it out, species that don’t procreate cease to exist. I’m not sure where the problem is with that natural, carnal desire.

Some people also do not have the thousands and thousands, usually tens of thousands of dollars on hand that it costs to adopt.

Now if you could kindly tell me what the point of your point was, and how it relates to what Roosh has posted, or my point that some people get pregnant because they want a baby, not because they want to trap a man.

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Raija,

It took till 1900 for the world to hit the first billion in population. It is now just a century later and we’re heading toward 7 billion. I don’t think there’s any shortage of people on the planet. If anything there’s way too much procreating going on.

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yo Rajia, chill out. go find some “repeal roe vs. wade” site to grind out ur agenda. i’m sorry ur infertile but that’s just a roll of genetics/god. I agree it is genetically natural to want to procreate but it’s also culturally natural for a man to want to control his destiny. Advice for you guys wrap it up. Theres nothing worse than having a kid you don’t want. I know, the kid could grow up to cure cancer, but it’s more like he grows up to just be another screwed up kid w/ a single mom, raised to hate his dad who didnt wear a condom one night hahah. awful

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I agree w/ Chill out. some of us are born infertile, some of us get childhood leukemia or Cystic Fibrosis. It’s the way life is. Adopt a kid, it’s the easiest thing an american can do. No matter how poor you are, there’s a kid in uganda/china/nicaragua that would love to live with you in America.

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vital information for your everyday life. nice work roosh

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I am in the safest possible rawdog relationship:

a. My girlfriend is in college for a bio-engineering degree. She is very smart, and very career minded. Her whole life revolves around upward-mobility.

b. She is also an extreme left-winger …. almost in caricature really. She vocally rages against children, marriage, and families. She mocks women with children as trailer trash. Especially young women. She doesn’t leave any ambiguity …. she would not hesitate to abort.

c. I’m totally broke, I have never had a job in my whole life. I give blood and do occasional studies at the local university to make ends meet, and sleep on a mattress on the floor in a $50 per month rented room.

Needless to say I spunk inside and use no birth control. I’ll leave it up to her.

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Forgive me if I’m being naive, but why the HELL would a woman go through the entire process of actually bearing a child and willingly NOT tell the father?

I understand why girls would get an abortion and not tell the guy. But having a child? The reasoning behind that one is lost on me.

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I’m not infertile. My husband is. But WE are infertile as a couple.

I don’t have an agenda. I just don’t understand when it became passe to want a family, or to want to be a good woman who takes care of her good, respectful husband. To be in a happy marriage where both parties contribute financially, emotionally, etc. When did it become a violation of the hipster constitution to want stability and love in your life? It’s just sad for me to see.

By your reasoning, the only people who should procreate are those who accidentally get knocked up and don’t want their kids and shove them off onto society? The rest of us who are in a place where we can provide for our own family should just take care of their mistakes?

Scottie – I can understand why a woman would have a child and not tell the father, if she really wanted the kid and didn’t want to deal with some jerk trying to pressure her into aborting. I don’t think men can really understand the connection a woman feels to a life that is growing inside of her.

Also, as an FYI – I spent the majority of my early 20s ragging on women with children, marriage, etc. I swore I’d never get married, and never have kids. Then one day I grew up. So don’t think for a second that because your girlfriend today bitches about pregnant women and calls them trailer trash that she won’t want it someday too.

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Rajia: By your reasoning, the only people who should procreate are those who accidentally get knocked up and don’t want their kids and shove them off onto society? The rest of us who are in a place where we can provide for our own family should just take care of their mistakes?

No Rajia. He’s saying get over it. If you can’t get pregnant, adopt. FYI, a lot of states, like North Carolina, will allow you to adopt a state ward for FREE. The states will cover ALL costs.

Everyone has their cross to bear. Blind people will NEVER see a color, the ocean, their own face. Deaf people will NEVER hear music. Kids with all sorts of nasty diseases will die NEVER knowing what it is like to be an adult, be independent, be healthy.

If you want a child so that you can have a family, there are solutions, FREE solutions. But if you are hung up on giving your husband a child with his DNA, you have a different motivation going, don’t you? That’s the point.

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JM – I guess my question is – what is wrong with that? What is wrong with wanting to give my husband a child with his DNA? What is wrong with wanting to experience pregnancy and giving birth? It’s a natural function of womanhood. I’m not sure why this is considered selfish. Do you think if there was a procedure to allow a blind person to see, they wouldn’t find a way to do it at all cost? Do you really think that? Or should they just “get over it” and accept their lot in life.

You also understand that adopting a foster child can mean adopting a child with a host of issues beyond normal childhood issues.

By the way, if anyone in your family or group of friends ever suffers from infertility, I would hope you have something more constructive to say to them than “get over it”. Otherwise my guess is you’ll soon lose that person in your life.

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you’re really acting like theres no risk of having an emotionally damaged child from your own gene pool…sorry but like the dude above said, if IVF doesnt work for ya, you’re not gonna be able to have a kid, no matter how much internet sympathy you garner. Adopt a kid, change a life. I witnessed a civl war as a 5 yr old and wuz pretty screwed up emotionally. After adoption, my new family has changed my life and now i’m doing fine.

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Who said we had done IVF? If we don’t have the money to do adoption, we certainly don’t have the money for IVF. I’m not looking for sympathy. I’m essentially anonymous anyway so what good would it do me. I just think it’s sad that wanting to have a child has somehow become a “bad” thing among a certain, fairly identifiable group of people. And that people really believe some of the crap they’ve posted here.

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31. anonymous/ Rajia?

1. I never said wanting your own DNA is wrong. We were discussing motivation for getting pregnant/having a baby. You were reluctant to agree that people can have a whole lot of different motivations. I have not said any one motivation is good or bad.

2. I didn’t say attempting IVF was right or wrong. What I said was that after a REASONABLE period of time and intervention, if a couple couldn’t get pregnant and wanted a child they would adopt.

3. If, as you claim, you are not infertile, then why would you need IVF? You would only need IUI or ICI. Much cheaper. Like $2-4k.

4. Of course I would assume a blind person would attempt to regain vision, but that same person at some point has to accept their lot in life or they will be miserable/unhappy/unsatisfied until a cure is found.

A person can wallow in misery or come to terms with their burden and decide to be happy despite it.

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Not to beat a dead horse, but IVF is necessary because we need PGD, according to two reproductive endocrinologists. We’ve been pregnant twice through IUI, but his sperm and my egg do not produce good embryos. So we need selective implantation. I’ve been tested for every possible known defect, and come out clean as a whistle. Our problem is in his count/morph.

My original contention was against the insinuation that massive numbers of women are getting pregnant so they can be showered with attention and gifts. I just don’t believe that. I think women want to experience pregnancy and childbirth because it’s a natural urging. The other couples I know who have struggled with infertility would sign a contract today that they’d never get a single baby gift and have to live in solitary confinement for the next 9 months if they could have a succesful pregnancy. Women got pregnant and loved their babies before baby showers existed.

And my husband and I are still happy. We love life and each other, and we will no matter what route we take to create our family.

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going back to the post.
If you do not care about if she is having a orgasm or not, why would you bother if decides do not tell you about having a baby, except if the girl in question it’s your cute next door, you wont be able to find out about it.

Better for you, right?

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I think that’s a myth, by the way, but I don’t really have any scientific evidence to prove it (i.e. please don’t take my word for it).

That is no myth

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Lance said: whatever added pleasure there is to doing it the way the ol’ dirty bastard liked it, is negated by the accompanying worry.
Most men just don’t get it but you do.

eddie murphy said it best, having sex these days is like throwing your dick on the craps table. why take the power to protect yourself out of your own hands?

Exactly

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I think this^^^ may qualify as an oxymoron.

In my experience, the women who ride other women for wanting children usually go on to become the most obsessed with having children..

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#27 planetary xpress

so, what redeeming qualities does this girlfriend of yours have?

given your last point, i’m going to assume, or at least hope, that she pays some or all of your bills. otherwise, what’s the point?

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Roosh, you’re not even an asshole. You’re just evil to the core. Calling you an asshole would be a complement.

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I also think it’s a myth. And a scare tactic. If it weren’t I would have about 20 kids by now.