Women In Their Prime Prefer Sex With Damaged Men

For the sake of your sex life, I hope that your mother didn’t love you when you were a child. I hope your father abused you. I hope you had several dark periods while going through puberty which lead to ideations of hurting animals or other people. I hope that you currently suffer from depression and rage. I hope all these things because you’ll have a far easier time meeting women and getting laid than a man who is emotionally balanced with a clear head on his shoulders. Your natural game, a result of legitimate abuse you may have faced, will be perfectly suited to attract the modern woman.

If you’ve been studying game, you would have noticed that a big chunk of it is learning to be apathetic, uncaring, and aloof. You’re taught not to put pussy on the pedestal, not to be overly affectionate and complimentary, and not to give clear signs that you like a girl more than she likes you. The reason you’re taught this is because it’s the most reliable way to attract and keep a Westernized woman who seeks exciting men instead of providers. Even a married man who got a woman to legally agree to be with him for life must remain ever so emotionally distant from his bride so that she doesn’t get bored and fuck a guy much hotter than him after only a 15 minute session on Tinder.

I had to learn all this training from scratch when diving into game at 22 years of age. Before that, I had a mother who would incessantly say she loved me and that I was her special boy. I had a father who, while much less affectionate than her, made sure all my needs were attended to. Even though they divorced when I was 8 years old, I spent every weekend with my father and was never short of parental love. Neither of them abused me or left me with any damage I can identify, and when I compare my upbringing to that of my peers, I’m downright lucky to have my parents. Any flaw you see in me is undoubtedly due to my peculiar genetic construction instead of purposeful harm levied by them.

I came out on the other side educated, personable, empathetic, and strongly wanting a loving relationship with an attractive girl. It took a year of game training in order to land her, but because I was too nice, and because she was too pretty, I lost her before I had her. I learned quickly that being nice was not a quality that women wanted, so I began to play the clown just to secure intimacy with desirable women. I definitely overshot the mark with my quest to accumulate sex without meaning, but my subconscious made that decision because it was more logical to pump and dump for fun than to try to get into a relationship with a woman who didn’t value family or monogamy.

I want you to now feel sympathy for me that my parents helped raise a man with low marks on the dark triad scale. I want you to feel sorry for me that I have to pretend I’m not interested in a girl even if I actually am, that I must take my time responding to a girl’s text message when I’m eager to talk to her, and that I’m forbidden to compliment her during the most intimate moments we experience in bed. All of that goes against my natural instinct.

If you want to be sexually successful, you have to simulate the behavior of men who were emotionally abused as a child, who have stunted development and who fail to properly connect and relate to human beings compared to those with normal upbringings. You have to take on sociopathic traits, put girls on an emotional roller coaster of abuse, and ensure that you view females with great disdain. It’s no secret that they prefer the dark triad man over a nice guy who would fail to get even a second glance from a psychiatrist.

If you are a nice guy who refuses to learn game or put on the clown mask, I have some great news for you: once a girl is done fucking a dozen or two bad boys in her prime, once her vagina is properly stretched out and primed to secrete maximum lubrication to only bad boy cock, and once the container of her eggs becomes nearly empty, she will gladly accept you into her life for biological reproduction, not because you were her first choice, but because those bad boys could not see her as anything more than a wet gash. Your best option is to be Plan Z after twenty five other men. During your happy marriage she’ll often be “tired” to have sex with you when not a few years prior she eagerly begged men who saw her as disposable to gape her anus.

I’ve been on both sides of the coin. I’ve been the nice guy who couldn’t secure the attention of girls and I’ve been the bad boy actor for over a decade, securing sex for as long as I can wear the mask. The problem with pretending to be the bad boy when you’re nice at heart is that it’s impossible to respect the girl as someone you could have a relationship with since you know she has spread her legs for so many guys before who play-acted just like you. You lament that she has lost her reproductive imperative and sees men as nothing more than sources of entertainment to improve her soulless existence of having to attain a meaningless education to labor in an insignificant office job, and that because of her rejection of the feminine nature given to her at birth, you are even more qualified to take care of children than she is. Her mind and body has been utterly ruined for anything but a fuck buddy relationship.

How I pity the normal man. He’s either doomed to a life of no sex or sex with women who are not suitable for more than a few lively pumps. Some men may get lucky and find the unicorn who wants to have a family before the age of 25, but for the most of you, your best option is to tattoo the bad boy mask on your face to at least have some semblance of a normal sex life. The toxicity of the West is spreading at such a rate around the world that being the emotionally damaged man, or at least simulating his behavior, is the best option for having any intimacy with women at all, no matter how deficient they are as compared to the days of our grandfathers. I guess you can say that this is not a good time for normal men to be living in.

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“If you want to be sexually successful, you have to simulate the behavior of men who were emotionally abused as a child, who have stunted development and who fail to properly connect and relate to human beings compared to those with normal upbringings. You have to take on sociopathic traits, put girls on an emotional roller coaster of abuse, and ensure that you view females with great disdain.”

Did just that. And it works unfortunately.

“compared to the days of our grandfathers. I guess you can say that this is not a good time for normal men to be living in.”

Society is no longer normal. Everything across the board including the world economy has been turned upside down.

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yes. You are correct.

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This article belongs in the Roosh hall-of-fame. Excellent piece of writing. The truth is brutal. Expect a lot more cases in the (near) future of guys who simply can’t take their sexless and utterly disenfranchised existence anymore, and go on a rampage. You have to wonder how much longer a sexual market place this skewed and this diseased can be sustained.

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It’s a damn pity that we have to go through these games. Maybe the old ways are the best ways.

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Nature intends for the “sexual market” to be skewed anyways. Many, sometimes even most males, shouldn’t get to procreate (and that means having sex). That’s for the best of all species, including the human. Only a smaller portion of (youthful and beautiful/strong) males have desirable/viable sperm that should be used for procreation, and females of all species know how to choose them like nothing else.
A diseased sexual market, evolutionary speaking, would be one where most males, including the less desirable, get to impregnate (have sex with) females, and where females have multiple children from only one male. Not even “monogamous” females do that – they will “cheat” on their partners to get younger, stronger males’ sperm, even when they are already older females themselves, which doesn’t matter as much as females are the ones who choose.
Monogamy is man made and does no good for the strength, healthy and evolution of the specie – genes ARE important, extremely important.

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If these women really do know how to choose the most suitable partners then why do they often end up as single moms?

Doesn’t seem like a smart choice to me, that is in the Darwinian context you’re arguing.

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The problem is that you’re seeing the process of procreation as just mating. Rather the act of raising a child is much much more influential than his genes, generally speaking that is. So the concept of monogamy is based on the maintenance of the nuclear family… something that very much gives one child an edge over another in terms of survival of the fittest. That’s why ultimately it’s in society’s best interest (as it has been in the past) to institute social controls and regulations that essentially regulate the sexual market and keep it from being a free for all. That used to be called evolution. I’m all for an embracing of man’s animal nature… I think we deny ourselves that way too often today. But embracing it so we can maneuver it so that it functions in humanity’s best long term interests. I’d argue monogamy is in man’s best long term interest… and the current sexual market we have now is not.

The real challenge there… is that as a man we have sexual needs. Those needs don’t go away or stop rearing their head because the marketplace and society has changed. For a man to fulfill those needs today he has 3 choices… 1) find a virtuous wife and begin a monogamous relationship (the ideal and what most of us want… also the most unicorn of the 3)… 2) find an unvirtuous woman and have a monogamous relationship (the classic wifed up beta… the worst outcome possible)… or 3) pump and dump. 1 is almost impossible to achieve anymore… 2 is not something any self respecting real man would tolerate… he would rather die alone than submit to that… 3 then is what most men who can today default to.

When I find myself engaging in the pump and dump routine… it’s not out of choice. It’s not because monogamy is “not natural” and I want to live like a hairless ape. It’s because if I want even the chance of getting laid… there’s really no way to get it done.

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NO WRONG, we are HUMANS not a bunch of ass scratching apes.

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So far this is true, despite Leftists’ best efforts to create a society of ass-scratching apes with smartphones.

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True Dat

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For humans, having two parents is extremely important in order for a civilization to survive. Even prior to civilization, a man fucking and leaving would ensure the death of his offspring because welfare did not exist

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i guess i can say the best thing is – if you have money to travel – go to regions that are easier to get laid, as some articles of Roosh say… :/

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That photo is just weird. It looks like my brother, who has informed me that I am the spittin image of Christian Bale. My son even gave me an axe as a gag Christmas gift because of that scene in the American Psycho movie. He roars with laughter when watching a Christian Bale movie because it’s like watching his dad. In previous decades people compared me to Remington Steele and other Hollywood personas.

So I am damn handsome, so handsome that I never developed any “game” because women have approached me throughout my life instead of the other way around. And I just as quickly dried up their twats with my easy-going beta attitudes and watched them walk away with some other clown. Or worse, the number of married or committed women who have tried to initiate affairs with me. Of course they are going to go for a pretty boy to validate their beauty. It’s enough to make one weep.

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Why cry about it?

Be a man of action and pragmatism like Roosh or 20 Nation and vote with your feet. That’s my goal. Putin and the boys have got it right over there that’s why there’s American influencers trying to destroy EE right now in the Ukraine which will make their women Christian Grey reading, Frappucino sipping, carousel riding corporate cubicle drones as well as opposed to traditional, sweet, and reasonable human beings who are focused on producing and raising future generations of decent people. You see Wall Street and Tel Aviv need more slaves for the big plastic globalist machine of tyranny. I hope Putin kicks their asses bunch of Khazar Marxist fiat money usurer scum.

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A gal in my high school invited me to her house and I declined. She ended up in a “Hustler” magazine centerfold. Am I not entitled to lay awake at night drowning in angst over what might have been? I am only human.

PS I have a ForeignBride, as seen in “A Man Wants a Wife, Not a Co-Worker”.

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Americans “trying to destroy”Ukraine?Are you f mad?
The Ukraine is being destroyed,quite literally,by Russians.By russian tanks,russian artillery and russian soldiers masquerading as “militia”.And with regards to carousel riding and capuccino sipping you obviously don’t know russian city girls.

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It’s okay Ruslan, calm down, you have successfully convinced that you have, quite literally, sucked all the neoliberal propaganda that is there to be sucked. You may proceed in peace now. Amin.

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You obviously believe what you see on the billionaire glow list news. Check out Gordon Duff of Veterans Today.com

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+1 to this.

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VeteransToday is great. As is GermarRudolf.com. And RedIceCreations.com

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Globalist news and the sites veterans today.com infowars.com and rense.com are two others to look at. Man I don’t trust the mans version.

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Infowars and Rense are controlled opposition designed to obscure Jewish hegemony. They are cover up artist shills. As is Chomsky.

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I deplore the censorship propagating in the Great White North. Freedom of thought is impossible without freedom of speech. Hosers like Irving and Zundle have an absolute right to speak their minds, whatever it is that is in them. Then, we can tell them to get lost, eh?
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Russia diden`t do anything until the EU tried to force the Crimeans into beeing part of it`s hopelessly indebted and failing union. Which they visely reject.

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jesus what a mess in your head. Crimeans?You mean ukrainians and tatars living in Crimea?EU forced? Ukraine joining EU is not even a point of discussionIt is unlikely to ever happen.The only thing Ukraine did was to sign a FTA with EU,like Marocco,Tunisia or even Chile did.
Putin started this war because he wants to control Ukraine and the puppet government ruling Ukraine previously brought Ukraine to a political and economic collapse thus causing riots and disintegrating shamefully.

Meanwhile Putin neglects russia and russian people.Here are the photos of a center of a largee industrial russian city (Ufa).Enjoy: http://zyalt.livejournal.com/1316723.html

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Why do you show me pictures of a city ravished by many decades of Marxist rule. It makes no sense what so ever.
Russia has gradually taken steps in the right direction, but you have to remember that the country was left in ruins by what I just mentioned.
I agree that it might not happen that the Ukraine joins the EU, because the EU member nations are mostly broke, and the union will fail eventually, but that is most certainly what the Western block is pushing for.
You seem like an average mass-media consuming socialist zombie, busy blaming all the failings of Socialism on the free-market. Life is to short to debate people who can`t think.

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You honestly think the US gives a rat’s ass about Ukraine? They have an annual GDP that’s less than two weeks of ours. Adding you to our economic wagon would be like putting a lawn mower wheel on a Lamborghini; if anything, Ukraine would be the poor relative who comes over for the holidays with his hand out. What do we get out of that? A raided pantry and seat cushions that smell like pickled herring.

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You are severely deluded if you think the US economy is a Lamborghini. As I pointed out in another post, the national debt included Government unfunded liabilities is totally out of control, and can never be paid back in an honest fashion.

This is about influence and power, not economic exploitation. And its mainly the EU in this case as I said. But the western nations act more like single unit now a days. A single Marxist/feminist unit that is.

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You’re deluded if you think that any economy anywhere else is better. Our debt is less than 1 year’s GDP; it could be paid off in 10 years. We were on our way in the late 90s, but for the idiocy of the Republicans. Anyway, the point is Ukraine is not that important.

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Were not talking about everywhere else, but Russia vs the US. I agree that Europe for example is for the most part as bad. Russia/China however is in a very different position.
The US is not in any position to pay of any debt at all.
In fact even the slightest increase in interest would destroy the US economy. With Yellen in charge you will see low interest rates and money printing ad infinitum. Eventually you will experience very high or even hyperinflation in the US. The dollar will lose it status as a reserve currency, replaced by the Yuan, Ruble, other Asian currencies as well as precious metals.
Republicans and Democrats have the exact same policy.
Only a true Libertarian candidate could turn this around.
But that will never happen so….

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Same shit talk every year. Russia’s prosperity is pegged to oil (good luck with that) and China is quickly shifting to a consumer-based economy, but it can’t feed itself. Good luck with that, too.

So, whom does that leave? You claim that the US economy is on a shaky foundation, but the rest of the world is dependent upon that foundation and neither China nor Russia could supplant the US in that position. The EU? Are you fucking kidding? The “economic miracle” of Argentina? If you suggest that, I will recommend you go to detox for whatever you’re sniffing.

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You sure jump from subject to subject without any depth or understanding at all. If you want to find some truth you must isolate.
“The EU? Are you fucking kidding? The “economic miracle” of Argentina?”
Don`t know what your talking about here at all.
Both examples of big Government gone awry, as I said in my previous posts.
Russia has oil which is good, as well as many other resources, and little debt.
The US practically lives of the Chinese worker, but China has an enormous domestic market, an will let its currency float eventually. They will enjoy the fruits of there labour and leave the US in the shit.
If you respond, please concentrate on one thing man.
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Yeah, I’m sure you’re a real economist. Anyway, you go off and beat your erasers. I’ve given this more attention than it–or you–deserve.

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Hard to deal with facts.
Better to live in an illusion.

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OK, a lawnmower wheel on an old Ford pickup.

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They all lie. I think the bankers/Illuminati/Masons/ and Vatican? Are all behind this corrupt global political culture aka NWO.

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“Putin started this war because he wants to control Ukraine”. Of course! And he wants to conquer Canada and Mexico too like NATO that has been progressively encircling Russia in order to destroy and dominate it for the last decades…
Troll clown…

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Nope. Actually, he is a great leader, which is why we like him. Putin is standing up to the West, and sadly, Ukraine is currently ruled by a NATO puppet regime. Do not worry, the Ukrainian rebels will liberate you though.

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Ukraine is not ruled by a NATO puppet regime.The president of Ukraine,as the ruling parties, has been voted in by a democratic election.You cant deny this.NATO cant even get its act together and start supplying weapons to Ukraine. I am a russian speaker from Eastern Ukraine,just 150 km from Donbass and I am increasingly worried that russians will be moving further and will turn my city into the shithole they made from Donetsk (Transnistria,Abkhasia etc..everything russians touch turns into a shit). No amount of heroism can stop russian troops when weapons are old.Yet,neither NATO nor USA show any interest in suppliying weapons (while they do this to camel shaggers in the middle east).
Putin does not “stand up”to the west.Putin stands up to the rule of law.Mainly because putin is a thief of gigantic prioportions, a russian mugabe, who has lost any touch with reality.Simple.Russia is a sad,poor,boring place where men hardly live beyond 60 and where sopme places dont have electricity yet.Tell this consipracy crap to those people.

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Actually, US diplomatic cables provided by WikiLeaks show Poroshenko has been working for the US since the mid 2000s. Also, he is simply doing their bidding, as he has proven. Everything NATO touches turns to shit (Middle East, some of Africa, Ukraine, etc). Russia is a great place, unlike Ukraine, which needs Russian oversight in order to not destroy itself like it is now. This is further evidence that Russian cause is a righteous one. Tell your propaganda bullshit to someone else, no one buys that shit here.

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“Ukraine is not ruled by a NATO puppet regime.The president of Ukraine,as the ruling parties, has been voted in by a democratic election.”

Once you violently oust the democratically elected leader of a country with Nazis, any “elections” held thereafter, with the Nazis counting the votes, aren’t valid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWkfpGCAAuw

“I am a russian speaker from Eastern Ukraine”

Then you’re a traitor. Hell, you’d be a traitor even if you didn’t speak Russian and lived in Banderstan. Enjoy your failed state.

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Dude, are you Jewish?

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I am a russian speaking ukrainian.Not a gram of J blood

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Nice try, Russian propaganda troll. Just to clarify, I am not angry with you. I understand you must make some money in poor Russia to survive.

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Its not a question on feelings, but of facts.
Russia did not all of sudden invade that part of the country. They are in fact protecting the segment of the population that identify as Russian rather than European or Western. Had the “world community” not pushed it, there would be no conflict in the first place. Like in Syria, like in Iraq, like in Afghanistan….
Germany is not that well of by the way, if you factor in debt and vast unfunded liabilities of the Government.
Russia has little debt.

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You don’t get it, do you?

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Yes this is true but the Ukraine’s military is being run by the US and it has allowed Nazi militants into there ranks. Which are raping and killing impure Ukrainians.

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Name at least one please

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Lolz no it’s being destroyed by KHAZARIANS (ashkenazi jews) like Poroshenko and Nuland, you dumb ass. They want their “country” back.

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All russian oligarchs and Putin’s friends are jews.

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Russia’s actions toward Littlle Russia (Ukraine) are quite similar to those of the United State toward the Confederate States. Way back in the 1950s when Ukraine was a part of the Soviet Union, Khruschchev granted Ukraine a degree of local semi-autonomy that most Soviet republics (provinces) did not have. But with the breakup of the USSR, Ukraine seceded and became an independent country, which it never had been before.
The Russian empire began with Kyiv (Kiev), the capital of Kievan Rus. It was much later that St Petersburg, and then Moscow, became the Imperial capitals.
Tsar Vladimir IV Putin wants to restore the old Russian Empire. Ukraine is resource rich, and is the “breadbasket” of Russia. It is on the Black Sea, an icefree coast. We way over here find it difficult to imagine the importance of Ukrainia to Russia.
Further, if Russia can obtain hegemony over the countries bordering the Black Sea, it can be made a Russian lake and other navies kept out. This would be an immensely valuable coup for Russia. All shipping to and from Black Sea ports would be under the control of the Kremlin, as would fishing and undersea petroleum reservoirs throughout the seabottom.
The Kremlin would feel better if Turkey would wirhdraw from NATO. The Turks are very Westernized, with a “Protestant” brand of Islam predominating. This makes Russia nervous. Imagine Canada and Mexico allied with Russia to give you some idea of Russia’s uneasiness.

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The Ukraine was taken over in an illegal coup d’etat by Zionist JEWISH banksters and their lackeys bolstered by the global media stranglehold they have to determine the consensus reality. The Russians are not the problem, it’s Jewish American Zionists and Rothschild Zionism.

See JimStoneFreelance.com and his analysis of the plane being shot down by the Ukrainians.

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That sums it up nicely but you forgot to mention that slime George Soros.

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“Putin and the boys have got it right over there”

How did I not know this was a satirical website>?

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Whatever is wrong with the US isn’t anything imitating Putin will fix. However bad our country is, it is paradise compared to the imploding Russia. Outside of oil and arms, they have no economy. Their population is imploding, vodka fueled or not. The ruble has dropped half its value in six months. This is not a model to follow.

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This is not the place for self-pity.

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I was also deemed as being unusually attractive growing up, and this can be worse than being ugly if you have no game at all.

If you’re ugly you don’t get teased or your hopes up or your time wasted.

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Roosh
As I was reading I think there are a few more things that should be discussed/discovered by you in future works-
All the ways modern Western women have betrayed/rejected/compromised their feminine natures.

A book or article on 87 ways spoiled young American women would get all the leftoid idiots fuming like Don’t Bang Denmark did.

A book on ways women fail themselves/ their children Or future children and husbands/ the history of women/ and society due to the elites brainwashing would be brilliant. Expose the mans lies and show ways to correct it.

Porn is a creation of the elites because full sperm count young guys are blasting big loads to airbrushed models instead of up a chicks poosy- this is unnatural and population control method like corporate jobs, public schools k-Ph.D., and Ziomedia brainwashing like Sex In The City or 50 Shades of Grey- all toxic bullshjt to destroy a healthy civilization.

One of your works of fiction that illustrates the inner thoughts/mindset of the bad boy/clown/sociopath and how this person really views himself inside and how he perceives the reality of the nature of women and what this guys thinking while he’s talking to a girl.

The psychology of why prime fertile women choose clowns/sociopaths during their reproductive prime.

A breakdown of how the elites game the masses into rejecting traditional values, convince women to ride the carousel and work for their corporations as opposed to procreating and having a family etc with ideas on how individuals can stand up to elites and resist their toxic lies and social control.

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I agree about porn as a tool for population control. Recently received a book on my mom’s Utah Mormon genealogy. Some of the photos are astounding, a man surrounded by his 14 children. I am tempted to post one in the manosphere with the title : “This is what happens to men with no access to porn.” My mom had 11 siblings. Explains why she was so livid over my having any access to porn magazines back in the day.

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“I guess you can say that this is not a good time for normal men to be living in.”
-Roosh V.

“In an insane world a sane man must appear insane.”
– C. William King

In baseball parlance, you hit that one out of the park Roosh!

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“We were decent men in an indecent time.”

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I have been saying since my early teens I was born in the wrong place and era. The discovery of this side of the internet just confirms it.

This is one of the most beautifully written articles by Roosh. Not only do you have intelligent content, but some exquisite word choice as well.

Live long and prosper.

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You may have been born in many places and in many eras.

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There is another way instead of faking it. I had more less stable parents and upbringing. I strive more or less to even advance spiritually.

But ever since knowing Game I let go of my dark side, my anger more often. It is always controlled and I never do something stupid. Still – knowing that it even helps me with women makes me accept the Dark Side more readily. Most men have that – just go with it gents. It becomes somewhat liberating to embrace it frankly:

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…that picture is meant to say you prefer orgies where the number of men is higher than the number of women (5 men x 3 women there)? I don’t get it lol.

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On a side note, here’s a good quote by Karl Denninger (market-ticker.org)

“Resolution requires that we, as ordinary Americans, evict the
“Social Justice” people from our lives and economic decisions. Being
one of “those folks” is not a protected class and thus there is utterly nothing unlawful about shunning them in all respects.”

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you da man.
the sad state of affairs being what it is, and the government having become the surrogate husband/father, it is a time of sink or swim.

hopeless betas will take the burden and some will go on a killing spree, taking out innocents with them.
those in the know will enjoy the benefits.
the only thing the alpha male cannot enjoy from this day on is a stable unified family life.

then again, why would you want to be wed to a woman who won’t want to fuck you after a few years, anyway?

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Are a lot of alphas sociopaths?

Chris
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Alpha is relative. What was alpha in 2008 actually is different than what is alpha now in 2015, just 7 years later.

men are constantly falling in and out of being the most desirable to women.

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alphas are not sociopaths.
alphas (2015 versions, as the man said) have no need to go on a killing spree.
it is the castrated betas who cannot find vaginas to bang that kill, out of frustration and feelings of belittlement

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Alpha and beta is evolutionary Darwin bullshit. If everyone had a Glock and was out to kick some ass in a shtf or teotwawki or apocalypse scenario swatting 500 lbs and banging 20 bar fly cheesy pussys in a year ain’t alpha- straight up killers would be alpha regardless of age, height, weight- a 60 year old Chinese man could be cock diesel in an environment like that arrogant clown and. Chill out with your Louis Farrakhan sounding labeling bull shit and Read a book- a sociopath is a liar or conman not a mass murdered.

10 year old boys have the motor skills and intelligence to hose down crowds with an AK-47- nothing alpha about mass murdering unarmed civilians with battle rifles as that’d be sadistic terrorism at best.

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Yes, it is not the alphas that murder, but the frustrated and marginalized betas.
Read my f’king post before you pound your keyboard with drivel

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Bro science bs.’go play with some Chinese dudes and see about that bro science crap and its viability on the street.

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apparently you are the one with the experience in playing with dudes. spare me your insufferable “teaching”, you demagogue

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You couldn’t write anything more intelligent than bogus homo innuendo?

These comment sections are useless.

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no more useless than your rantings, which are full of conflict and devoid of a point

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A kid I graduated from high school with did exactly that, went on a killing spree. Took out his ex he had a kid with and her sister or mom, while the third was shot but didn’t die.

The military trained him, he split for VA and the feds caught up to him in a cabin in the woods where he killed himself.

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they should make PUA/Alpha Male training mandatory everytime they train a guy to kill, so he does not take out the frustration of his sexlessness on innocents

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But don’t women aaalways want to fuck alphalfa men, even after years of marriage? Alpha males are only good for that anyways.

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Being damaged is obviously not enough if you consider what happened to Elliott Rodger. The basic formula is: dark triad + clown game. I myself need to work A LOT more on my clown game. Girls say I’m too quiet and serious because I don’t go on blabbering like a moron.

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I’m not too familiar with the Elliot Rodger case, but if I have to guess on some of the reasons he didn’t appear on girls’ radar:

– Lack of indicators of pre-selection (goes about alone, is never seen with other women or with friends, no social circle)

– His inability to reach their (contemporary girls) stimulus-response threshold as they have been conditioned to optimally -or even solely- respond to supernormal stimuli (think dark triad characteristics, acting like a clown, large amount of muscle mass, etc.). In other words: he couldn’t compete in the modern mating game.

– He exhibited odd behavior, due to social inexperience, lack of understanding of social cues, of the unwritten rules of normal social interaction, or simply due to some mental disorder.

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He just needed an occasional escort and a gym membership.

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Elliot Roger didn’t get girls because he was a bitch. He looked like a bitch and acted like a bitch. His “manifesto” is full of ramblings of him crying and being disappointed that women are not approaching him. He was a straight male with not enough manhood. As Roosh said, only Game and RedPill could have saved him, both which he adamantly rejected.

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He was short and Asian. Santa Barbara’s full of tall muscular all American white guys. Guys who make you think the whole country isn’t in decline (until you go into an inland Walmart then you say uh yeah it is in rapid decline). I could find a cast to a Beverly Hills 90210 type of show in 5-10 minutes walking around SB man- people look good there.

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Here’s the thing – game and success with game really only builds your testosterone a near negligible amount.

He was feminized in his blood. It’s a societal problem that many guys have extremely low T.

He would have benefited from a cycle of steroids just as much as he would from learning game. You can teach a man top-tier game but it won’t change the fact that his hormone profile can be barely described as a man.

We can expect to see more cases like this in the future; the elites have killed off the testosterone of the millennial male.

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Eliot Rodger killed innocent people. He’s not a hero. Maybe horrific events like this are a sign America needs something for sexually frustrated men who feel they’ve failed at life.

He was a kid in it of pain who never found solutions to his frustrations so he loaded up some guns and murdered innocent unarmed people. I don’t think prostitutions good at all but it would’ve been a better alternative than him going off on innocent people like that.

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VR Porn and talking Fleshlights.

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Anyone can pay prostitutes, he could have easily payed one if he wanted. But he wanted willing women who would actually feel attracted to him and in the end also love him. he wanted a girlfriend. A hot blond super model… yeah.

America needs to teach men they don’t have to be “sexually sucessful” to win at life, that their value isn’t based on that. That women are much more than their looks, that women aren’t blind and, if so, that it’s much easier if they would just stop with the bullshit about wanting a “hot” woman when you are a flabby/fat hairy dude with a fucked up face.

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Elliot Rodgers became damaged because he refused to learn game or accept the fact women didn’t like him despite him being a nice guy who put them on a pedestal. You’re exactly right about dark triad + clown game being what Western women are attracted too. Being a clown is my weakness too, I often get told I’m too quiet or serious but I have a natural emotional aloofness which serves me well.

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He wasn’t nice at all, actually. He was a racist, a “victim”, weird, emotionally damaged. He was also not that attractive.

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By nice I mean in his mind he believed how he treated girls was nice (before the rampage). He was definitely a weird emotionally damaged person.

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Got you, I though you meant he was indeed nice and all that.

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Maybe those men aren’t the damaged ones; in fact if women instinctively prefer them that kind of implies that they are more fit from an evolutionary perspective. Maybe its al these weak betas desperate to learn game that have been damaged by their coddled upbringing and “civilized” lives.

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exactly. the average guy is too pussy.

my mom didnt love me so I had to look out for myself at a young age. i feel like an old man at 18.

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The system needs compliant sheep to till the fields for the wolfs on Wall Street and on K Street. If you had a colonial era population full of bushcraft, high t rifle rotting barbarians like the revolutionary war you couldn’t have pinko commie fag international socialism. The masses are oppressed to serve the system and this beta behavior is a byproduct of that oppression. Conversely, if you’re a psycho alpha you might not have long longevity due to the high risks.
Bottom line- big Jew finance socialism/corporatism is everyone’s chief oppressor. The tv brainwashing has damaged men and women equally as have the “schools”- it’s all served its purpose to enslave in a global fiat bank world order aka NWO.

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But the higher-ups still breed, don’t they? How do they preserve the smarts and cunning necessary to keep the ship going (and not just the bloodlines) if present-day females actively shun the kinds of males that carry the characteristics necessary for preserving such a nomenklatura as potential sexual partners and mates? Arranged marriages? Partnerships of convenience? Some select ‘on the side’ action to keep the genes fresh? How is it done?

The sheeple may be compliant and lazy, but (functional) people are still not that dumb generally speaking, and they begin to take rightful offense when the thought control mechanisms used to keep them in check begin approaching insultingly absurd levels of simplicity and gullibility. I mean, how blatant can you get? I believe the elite may have overshot this one, as judged by the latest reactions to the ‘he for she’ and ‘it’s on us’ campaigns, as only two examples amongst many of people finally speaking out against such cheap Agitprop being shoved down their throats.

Or perhaps I am wrong and the mass of compliant drones really is large enough to drown out the voice of reason, even if this voice gets progressively larger and larger as we speak. And then people wonder how the various past crimes against humanity were ‘allowed’ to happen in the first place FFS.

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Some of those conspiracy theory blogs like rense.com think a military coup will happen that’s why Obama fired all those generals because the Goldman Sachs bastards Obama works for are scared of that very thing. Pitons another wildcard- if the Illuminati Jew money creeps keep using the American system to harass him he could go off man. Those whole thing is sick and it’s the Rothschilds (top Illuminati family and controllers of world finance) fault according to many.

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In true evolutionary times… yes… women would pick traits that are more fit from an evolutionary perspective. We don’t live in those times anymore. A woman is provided for by the state regardless of her choice in mate… so she can afford to be hedonistic in her choices vs. pragmatic. Evolutionary fitness and selection are based on pragmatism… innate hedonistic desires yes but they subconsciously stem from a pragmatic place. Today that measure has been removed… so women just sex whoever gets their vaj wet. We’ve removed the concept of evolution from sex. It’s all recreation anymore… never about procreation. At least for women….

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Roosh,

I came to such realization years ago about women. That is why I have hobbies and personal goals outside of just chasing pussy. Once a man is past 45 like myself your sex drive drops and you want other things in life. Building a business, travel, learning languages, mad skills like aviation and scuba diving are more rewarding to me than a vagina. At least women in Russia and Brazil are still somewhat decent for dating and I’m glad that I’ve been learning thes languages.

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Agreed. I also think that “game” shifts when you are in that age bracket. You have enough social clout that you don’t need to play clown game. If some PYT pulls some shit, you just give her an amused look like “that’s cute” and let her pout it out.

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I disagree completely with Brazil. Full-swing carousel nation.

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As a Brazilian, I second that.

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Brazil’s really ghetto right? Like Crack heads and gangsters with AKs everywhere

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Kinda lol. Many great cosmopolitan places, too.

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Brown ghetto booties and favelas full of M16s- that’s 5 star living right there.

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learning russian and portuguese fulfilling in and of itself. if it helps with the ladies, all the better.

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I hope you are right. I am 38 and still crave the (young) vagina, although I wish it was not so.

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It’s true, I’m nearly 45 and now I have a natural tendency to behave as if I have abundance. I’m in good health and very active so my physique is not typical of a 44 yo. I could get lots of young girls if I really wanted but the desire is not so strong any more.

Don’t despair, the 40s are the golden years but it depending on the person they could also be the beginning of a sharp descend.

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Roosh,
What do you think about writing a piece about how the real Roosh would treat his woman if he lived in a world where women were attracted to men who were always themselves. It would be fascinating to hear about the man in love without game. I heard men invented romance. How would you show love to your ideal woman without fear of her leaving you?

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You’re the girl in Germany with the older lover right?
I’ll translate your post to what you really want to say-
Roosh your blog makes me tingle. Please contact me. I look pretty good. Tell me in a new blog entry how you would fall in love with me and act if you had never been rejected, humiliated, or wronged by women in your lifespan.

I’ll translate my post-
Guy who lives in a boring place and should get back to work instead of wanting to play female translator aka saying what a woman really means as opposed to what she says on the surface.

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Actually your witty comment has the potential to make women tingle. Good for you. Now that you mention it, I would want Roosh to contact me regarding the possibility of me writing for his RoK blog. Although I find Roosh attractive, I would never hit on him because he doesn’t like older women.

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Women don’t write on ROK.

You think that by asslicking through comments an exception will be made for a complete stranger on the internet?

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Thanks for the insight. Obviously I know he currently doesn’t have any women writers and also know that red pill men 1. Don’t care about what women have to say and 2. Don’t think women can write worth a damn. But I’ve been reading his blogs and I humbly think I might be a good addition to his intelligent, down to earth, and pragmatic readership. If not, I’m thinking about starting my own blog. Lastly, I hardly think that sharing my views here has been ass kissing. I honestly enjoy his work. He cracks me up, opens my eyes, and awakens my empathetic self with his words.

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How old are you? You are aware that he considers women 26+ to be “old”? Which is hardly what the average man considers old.

Andrea
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Yes I know. Thus I’m almost a granny by his standards. I’m 34.

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I am 38, so I must be almost fossilized by his standards. Roosh himself should therefore be heading towards granny age quite soon.

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The day your publish your first article will be the day I stop coming to this blog.

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it’s funny though. Here in Denmark you suddenly see so many of those 20-24 years old couples pushing a pram around, and the man is a typical beta provider. Often hipster with no muscletone at all. I’m starting to think that there is hope for Denmark after all. Social Security has been greatly reduced last couple of years perhaps that has something to do with it.

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“Here in Denmark you suddenly see so many of those 20-24 years old couples pushing a pram around”

Are there statistics to support that observation? Even in New York City you can often see young mothers with kids, but the stats don’t show a resurgence in them reproducing.

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Well every couple needs at least 2-3 kids for the birthrate not to drop on the statistics. Having 3 kids is an enormous job here in Denmark if both man and woman work. So I think most are happy with having 1-2, except the Muslim population. But the couples are getting younger, from what I can see.

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I wouldn’t get too happy and full of hope in your place. It’s more probable that the carousel is ending (thus, beginning too) at a younger age and much more realistic that the young couples you talk about will just evaporate within months. Don’t get too weirded out, you know that the neoliberal hypersexualization is getting out of hand (since at least a decade ago).

You make it sound like a revolutionary utopia, 2013 they’re the biggest sluts on the continent, next year they are loving houseviwes.

I live in Norway but am croatian, I feel like Hulk Hogan on a brony convention, so I guess I know what I’m talking about since I know several (ex) couples that seemed perfect and everlasting with their babies, dogs and newly acquired mortgages just to witness it all collapse like Building 7 within 2-4 years.

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Just saying what im observing.I cant go to all of these couples and ask them how it all works out or if the woman was a major carousel rider. In general I think that the new generation has more resistance, or perhaps indifference, to feminism. The “sex and the city” generation, and the generation after, is probably lost. But time will tell.

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The reproductive rate is 2.1 child per female. And there is no tendency towards younger first births, its pushing towards 30 years in many Northwestern European countries.
Your casual observations are hardly accurate.

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And neither do the stats support your claim that Scandinavian girls are particularly fat. Anecdotal evidence based on casual observation should be taken with a grain of salt.

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Same in Holland.Most of girl I know have bought a house with a boyfriend by the age of 25,and are very conservative (no more thn 2-3 boyfriends in a lifetime) and tend to have kids by 27-30 max.I know only one dutch girl who falls under the description of above and she is a..feminist (duh) and…lives in New York lol.
The rant is hardly applicable to most of north western european countries.Very applicable to the UK though.Also,Spain,strangely enough.

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Well duh, Roosh is an outsider. He is limited to very low end women. See: http://travelwhiz.org/women-of-poland.html

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Agree 100%.His views of women I know well suggest he is scoungering the lower end of the spectrum.

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Average age of mother at first-birth is 29.1 in Denmark (per 2012). But I think it`s trending towards later and later. https://www.cia.gov/Library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2256.html

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I know. Im not saying it suddenly dropped to 18, like Burkino Faso or something.

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I severely doubt it. Immigrants have children younger – some of those immigrants are from EE. 50-100.000+ young Polish women have for example kids early in the UK – something which they would not have in Poland, because social security and child support is strong enough there in comparison to their homeland.
Non EU-women will have an even greater incentive to get pregnant fast. I don’t see the young generation settling down faster anywhere in the West. But one thing is clear – lowering of state help & social security will make women settle down earlier. However – how long those bonds last is hard to tell. After divorce such women usually have more money than before.

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This is brutally honest and true.

I wish it wasn’t though, as I too once wanted a loving relationship with a young lady, only to have her run off with a Harley McBadboy. I just wish Roosh would have been around 20 years earlier.

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Thing is man, I was the Harley McBadboy in my relationships, and they still chase every tingle they feel.
Doesn’t matter if you’re beta or alpha, as soon as their is a bump in the road, she is gone. Pretend to be a psycho all you want, eventually you will start to focus on more mature things, and that is when trouble starts.

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They are always on the lookout for the bigger, better deal. The novelty of unexplored cock. To boldly go where no girl like her has gone before (or so she thinks). A relational “bump in the road” is quickly spun into an opportunity to re-indulge herself on the sexual market place.

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Until they invariably overshoot and hit the wall. Happens so predictably now that it is not even painful to watch anymore.

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“The novelty of unexplored cock.”
I think I’m going to write a poem with this title.

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The trouble starts with janitors.

Once the broad sees the “Danger – Slippery When Wet” yellow and black device holding the door to the ladies’ room open, and steps inside anyway, she’ll never be the same.

Door closes, bent over sink and stall, on knees, what have you.

Sink and paper towels, no one will ever know, and thus a cock craving ho’ is made, not born.

How do you think Mr. Clean became so beloved of horny housewives?
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Why do you suppose Dark Triad traits are arousing to women? Western socialization can only work with women natural physical and hindbrain arousal cues.

Agreeableness and humility in men are negative predictors of sexual partners.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0029265

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Then why do so many mothers, even those who played the modern woman in their twenties seem to want their perfumed prince of a son to exhibit those very traits of agreeableness and humility, not to mention “treating women with respect and as individuals, not sex objects”?

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Simply put: the last thing your modern young woman wants to do these days is “settle down.” Women have degrees to earn, careers to build, passports to stamp, and a laundry list of exciting and worldly shit to experience so they can look back and feel like they’ve “had it all” and are thoroughly cultured, well-traveled, experienced – and above all else – independent. Therefore, guys who show those kind of “safe” and long-term settle-down-y kind of traits are completely incongruent with what modern women want. Women these days want excitement, adventure, and some danger and drama to go along with it.

If you want to get laid given the average pool of females – you have to adhere to their common desires. It’s a necessary evil I s’pose

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After viewing just a dozen Tinder profiles of fuckable women, your claims can be legitimized by simple reading their cues.

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Last thing a women wants is a guy who doesn’t give her tingles that’s what it comes down too.

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Who else was raised really religious? My parents were very religious but we actually talked about sex a lot. The message I consistently heard was that sex and a happy marriage was the reward a man got for being a virtuous person, working hard, serving his community and god. It was the biggest lie anyone ever told me…

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I was raised in a socially conservative religion. Parents should never teach their sons that sex and love are the same thing. This kept me a virgin throughout high school and the first years of college. I had girls interested in me, but I didn’t “love” them so I never fucked them.

The biggest lie: thinking that unconditional romantic love exists and that women are capable of such love. I should have fucked those girls since they wanted to be fucked.

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Women think that their pussy magically heal any emotional wounds that damaged men have. lol

isn’t it Tylor Swift who sings “I can make bad guys good for a weekend”?

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You can find plenty of men who think like that, actually. Go to any manosphere bullshit site… some men over there even believe men would kill themselves and commit crimes much less if women would just “be generous” and fuck them lol.

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It’s a classic beta misconception to think that Western women only fuck psychopathic criminals. Think of Scandinavian girls, who will bang pretty much any dude at the end of the night if they were looking for it, even a beta. Not many psychopathic criminals in Sweden either. Swedish men are the opposite of masculine and they still get laid, usually with the girls escalating on THEM.

It’s also a mistake to think that it’s Western culture that creates attraction to dark triad traits. Alpha males are dark triad in the state of nature, that is biology. It’s actually Western socialization for men to want to treat women nicely, it’s not the natural state in the slightest. Many should think of how they treat their little sisters, there is no impulse to treat her “nice”, usually as kids your natural state is treat your little sister like shit and take the piss like crazy. A man who is truly comfortable with women and hasn’t been destroyed by feminine socialization should actually ENJOY taking the piss out of women, and generally being aloof. An alpha in the state of nature has a harem of girls, he has no DESIRE to be overly affectionate with a particular girl. Try masturbating before a date, you get that feeling many men get after sex of “get the fuck off of me”. THAT is the natural alpha state.

You DON’T have to behave like an utter psychopath because that is actually counter-productive. You do need the alpha traits, every woman universally wants an alpha male who behaves as if he has abundance, but being alpha is just one component of game. There are some times when it pays to do something that wouldn’t be traditionally “alpha”, there is such a thing as being too alpha.

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Americas toxins have caused emotional warping- it’s not rocket science.

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Give this man an award! A+

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I cannot confirm this to be the case for Sweden. Which Scandinavian country are you referring to?

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Outstanding! A ++

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Alpha males are usually degenerates. Even in nature many times they get killed by their own groups. They treat females, males and the young ones like shit.
You’re wrong. In general, it’s a rule for males in nature to try to please females and treat them nicely, even more when they want to copulate with them. Most males are just fine and know how to behave.
Not all species live in groups nor most species that do will have an exclusive “alpha” who keeps a “harem”, why spreading so much bullshit? Females need many “ideal” males so they can copulate and have any oofspring from a different ideal male existent, for better genetical abundance.

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Keep telling yourself that. Every anon. said was biologically accurate, don’t believe him then explain why prisoners have twice the fertility rate of normal men. Explain why sociopaths, psychopaths, and narcissist bang more girls than nice guys in ALL cultures. Explain why only 4% of the animal kingdom practice any form of monogamy with none being exclusive. Explain why males in all species with higher androgen levels score more women than males with lower levels (East Asian men being the prime example in humanity.)

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Very good stuff. Best of Roosh !

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enough real to me. Have a good day gentlemens smile

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Do you like Phil Collins?

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If I need something full of cheesy synths and retro pop loops he’s my go to guy.

He’s done well for a high school drop out.

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I’ve been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn’t understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins’ presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group’s undisputed masterpiece. It’s an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don’t you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I’ve heard in rock. Phil Collins’ solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds.But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

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HAHA.
Christy, take of your robe.

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Sabrina, don’t just stare at it, eat it!!!!

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I have to return some videotapes.

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AS is considered to be an outstanding critique of consumerism, yet it’s also post-modernism whose author is sexually ambiguous, to say the least. A cultural Marxist victory, or a red-pill forerunner?

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” I want you to feel sorry for me that I have to pretend I’m not interested in a girl even if I actually am, that I must take my time responding to a girl’s text message when I’m eager to talk to her, and that I’m forbidden to compliment her during the most intimate moments we experience in bed. All of that goes against my natural instinct.”

This is exactly where I am at and I hate it.

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Stop chasing low value western women and your problem goes away.

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True! Nice guys are hot in rural Mexico. Even men of my age get hit on by women in their 20’s/

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This was a good one Roosh…..

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This is simiiar to what I’ve told people before. It seems like today if you weren’t raped by your parents or had some other physical or emotional trauma in your life then YOU are the oddball. LOL!

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The question lies in; Is it easier to play asshole, or actually be one? It’s a tough act if you’re not. Or is it easier? I’ve always found it more difficult, with my job for instance, to half ass something rather than do it right the first time. Once you find out the “doing it right” with women just means being a apathetic doofus with a few witty moments, followed by aggressive wargasm sex, life gets a lot easier.

Ironically, the most “natural” players I know are kind of dumb, don’t pay attention to detail of shit they do, half-ass many things throughout life, happy go luckily stumble along, and seem to have the world land in their lap. It really is a clown act.

We should quit worrying about loving women right, it’s more about the ways disregard them, even hate them that counts in their dramatic minds.

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This story, from 1996, is an appropriate piggy back.

Dorren Lioy, who married serial killer Richard Ramirez in prison. In her own words, “I saw something that captivated me.” Lioy stated the her reasons for loving Ramirez were “inexplicable, even to me.”

And this is why the Manosphere exists – to explain basic human concepts to the educated elite, the tone deaf media, and to modern womyn who are ignorant about their own nature.

http://articles.latimes.com/1996-10-03/news/ls-49781_1_richard-ramirez

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I think that’s absolutely true. In an Italian forum (I’m Italian), talking about DV, I described the abusive behavior of my ex-lover, a richer and older woman: I cohabited with her when I lived in Sweden, in my 20s (now I’m 42 yo). Then I described the fact I really enjoy to live alone (even if I have two unserious relationships). Now, due that, a 23 yo girl is stalking me: she wants meet me. The girl is even beautiful, but it seems the kind who is ready to throw false accusations, also she lives 400 kms from me.
Suggestions and thoughts, Roosh?

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Don’t stick your dick in crazy.

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Meaning? I should avoid the girl? Funny thing is: there are three messages by her exactly now, sent this night. I admit I’m confused: I have unserious relationships with a 36 yo postal clerk and a 47 yo dentist, both good look (especially the first) for their age, but that girl is quite another thing…last time I fucked a girl so (and even better) it was before my marriage and…well, also during first years of marriage (my ex-wife and some girls before her I mean – others were not so beautiful). On the other hand there’s a clear risk involved, and also the old player I was twenty years ago is screaming in my head: “800 kms just only to fuck a girl? Ludicrous! That would be really humiliating!” .

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Make the girl come to you, not the other way around. If you travel 800 kms for a fuck, you are the one doing the chasing.

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Come on, this is so bogus and over the top and reads like another set of convenient excuses for not being where you’d like to be with women. Obviously you need to come from abundance and not get overly invested too early, but having some abusive shtick is only going to be optimal on a subset of damaged women.

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Who’s out riding the carosel at cheesy bars and clubs- healthy balanced individuals?

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Roosh is claiming you need to be that way to be “sexually successful.” Just because the “bad boys” happen to have some good qualities, like being non-needy and hard to pin down, it doesn’t at all follow that you should also take on the more extreme traits of a damaged pscyho, including abusiveness. Conversely, just because most nice guys are also needy bitches, it doesn’t at all follow that being nice in itself is a game killer.

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This^

Roosh has been exceedingly over dramatic and bitter in his posts recently (probably because that’s what gets views from whiny manosphere guys). Do girls want a little excitement and dominance from their men these days? Of course they do, and they always have. Their just not forced to settle down anymore with a boring beta schlub. Instead of being the boring beta dork, why not work on improving yourself and becoming a dominant man. This doesn’t mean becoming a deadbeat criminal like Roosh is saying. It means becoming a cultivated man and not giving woman too much of your valuable attention.

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It’s possible I’m just in a weird scene.
The deadbeat criminals that I know have a hot new girlfriend pretty much every month.
Where I am the formula for getting girls seems to be the following.
Social Dominance + Money + Drugs + Dark-Triad behaviours.
If you are a criminal you can get all of those.
I work as a barback in the nightclub scene and I see this every weekend. It’s possible that I need to change my environment, and that is what I’m working towards.
But to say that women are not sexually excited by psychopathy in males contradicts my personal experience. Published scientific research supports this observation.

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Where you at? Around here they go more for the simpy yet still somehow professionally functional doofus, and carefully avoid any semblance or glimpse of natural wholesome masculinity like the plague. You can literally see the dysgenics in action. If it were not for make-work jobs and the welfare state in general, these people would simply not survive the next drop in ambient temperature beyond what the human body can normally tolerate.

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lol
I’m in North York Toronto but I work downtown.
It depends on the area you’re right… In the Annex area girls tend to gravitate towards skinny fat feminist betas who have drugs.
In the clubbing area and sketchy parts of the city girls go for criminal drug dealer types. If you can DJ though that might work for you.
And other than that it is a mix-up because of how multi-cultural the city is, but more or less first-gen immigrants stick within their clans. I do occasionally see Asians with white-guys though.
I’ve stopped dating natives here and exclusively spend my time on international students and girls who just moved into the city. I prefer more down to Earth kinds of girls… or sporty intelligent girls…
I’ve just had bad ROI with Toronto girls. If they’re friendly and datable there is always something fucked up about them that I’ll find out later.

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Drugs seem to be the common denominator. The girl will stick around if the guy has valuable resources.

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Where women have everything they need and men are just clowns I’d say it comes down to things like that.

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Get ouutta here. There aren’t hundreds of thousands of drug dealers in Toronto cool enough to bang all of the hot girls. And as far as the fat or successful dealers you can’t rule out it being an escort of some sort of financial arrangement. As a dealer you are inherently popular with a large social group so it’s a confounding variable to their success that you’re clearly not giving enough credit to. The finance or tech nerd who works with a bunch of men might make just as much but doesn’t have the same access and probably not enough time to get social status somewhere else.

A lot of the cool down to earth single women in western cities can rely on social groups to meet quality men and don’t need to do the public singles scene. Once that happens it starts to devolve into a loser sausage fest as quality men also give up on it, making it even less appealing to quality women (has definitely happened to some degree in Montreal). From what I hear Toronto isn’t an exception.

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Your analysis is correct.
Of course not every guy with a girl is a drug dealer. The social environment is as you describe it, you need to become part of a social clique.
As I said somewhere on this thread, being a drug dealer gives you the appropriate mix of traits to be attractive to women. It is not only the appeal to getting high, but the kind of drama that orbits around that lifestyle.
I knew a dealer who was murdered in TDot 3 years ago and his girlfriend moved onto his best friend a week later. No one questioned it. Everyone made a spectacle out of it, but is there any encouragement to live a healthier lifestyle? Are you joking? That is the highest quality drama there is.

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“As I said somewhere on this thread, being a drug dealer gives you the appropriate mix of traits to be attractive to women.”
Most women aren’t criminals, and so they won’t be attracted to and won’t get close to criminals; a drug dealer won’t be necessarily handsome and socially smart; most women don’t do drugs, so their drugs are pointless.

For real, guys aroung here must live in hell, be criminals themselves, or are just too stupid/emotionally retarded and see only what they want to see.

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Here’s my theory on the pro functional dufus. While I can’t easily imitate his retarded ways, I’ll usually out wit him, have a physique that’s competitive, and probably out fuck him in the bedroom… because well, he’s a dufus after all. A dumb bitch will obsess over a dumb guy, it’s a natural pair bond. But a smart guy with many of the dark-triad qualities the dufus has, and the ability to adjust them at will, unlike the dufus whose unequipped, has a competitive advantage. Exploit that until you increase your quality of women to your desire. One thing I most definitely don’t do, is fear the competition in any way. Rather, I chuckle now.

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In theory you should be correct. In practice, however, the females here also avoid any guy who becomes a bit too smart or perceptive for his own good. It’s not just a matter of combining dark triad qualities with smarts and a decent physique. It actually boils down to (female) control, pure and simple.

Whether a drug dealer or a successful professional, the ultimate litmus test seems to invariably involve checking off the final criterion of (reasonably) easy control and manipulation over the male mate. I could accept this and even appreciate it if the ‘game’ was played at a rather high level of seduction and sophistication, but nooooo. They demand nothing less than submission to literal canine-training levels of behavior modification. I mean, Pavlovian reflexes as the grounds for a ‘relationship’? Really?

It would be greatly amusing if it were not simultaneously so insulting and down-putting to any minimally sophisticated and self-respecting guy. And the worst part of it all is that, if you ‘fail’ the so-called test, your punishment consists in complete banishment from the sexual marketplace. Female group think, preselection, and the herd mentality pretty much guarantee it. And that goes for average AND smart girls alike.

I swear any culture that actively encourages and supports pair bonding amongst the (non-wimpy) smartest and brightest is going to replace this ‘civiliation’ within a generation by way of sheer wit, cunning, and productivity alone. Can’t keep the old guard in place forever once your brutish pack mule descendants become outflanked and outmaneuvered by the new Spartans.

Can’t wait to see it happen.

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In the words of triumph, you sound like a super bionic nerd, made up of parts from lesser nerds. You also don’t know what you’re talking about. Poor dumb couples massively outnumber the “witty” educated couples and they have far more children then successful professionals, so your theory about intelligent people taking over in numbers is comically misinformed.

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My preliminary observations regarding pair bonding based largely on a male’s controllability by the female are quite correct as far as I can tell. You must be either wilfully blind, still young, or a closet mangina not to see it. I attach no value judgment to this phenomenon (outside some understandable frustration), as it simply is the way our species evolved.
That said, you may be right in your assessment of “poor dumb couples massively outnumbering the “witty” educated couples” and outbreeding them overall. Depends on where you live and what you see around you. Here it is not so bad (yet), but the winds are definitely blowing in the steady direction of idiocracyville for the native population at least. The freshly minted immigrants from more robust and mature cultures: not so much. They will inherit the earth, with the leftist progressives taking on the eventual role of Morlocks (with lesser Morlocks bred to protect the new Eloi from serving as food this time around).

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Maybe these women are mostly all criminals and/or psychopathic as well? You know how psychopathic women use to act… they many time choose a man who will do most of the dirty work for them and just stay behind the curtains.

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I’d bet money that guys who sell drugs or are DJs have a higher notch count on average than normal hard working Joes.
The women where I live are so coddled that the only men that stand out are dudes who have their own gangs and setups. Some of these guys do burn out rather quickly… but chicks where I live love getting high…
You should go to small town Manitoba if you want to see some really grungy shit.

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… I don’t think I should go there… but it sounds just horrible.

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There is a middle ground between being a boring beta schlub or being a deadbeat criminal or anti-social psycho but I guarantee the criminal or pyscho gets laid more than the the beta schclub. Plus the media, movies an even most women all brainwash men to believing the caring, nice beta is what women want, when in reality it isn’t. There’s always exceptions but that’s just what they are, exceptions.

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Nope, just like healthy balanced individuals aren’t the ones going after them, either.
The things is, even if some really damaged women would actually feel drawn to men with abusive behavior, it still doesn’t excuse abusing them. You would think people would be better than just use and abuse someone who is already down, too broken and too confused to see past it all.

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The upper echelon of men serial fucking all the hottest women with the betas on the sidelines isn’t a recent or western phenomenon. Also women being promiscuous isn’t new at all either. Female vaginas have been dumpsters of various men’s semen for hundreds of thousands of years. If all females paired off at a young age with like-value monogamous pairs we would all have little raisin testicles. Instead humans have enormous testicles and sperm evolved for intravaginal warfare.

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Tell us more bed-time science stories!

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This article is as good as when I first read your article about all men being clowns.
You come across as hyper-analytical Roosh, but it seems to me that deep down you are more the artist than the scientist.
I pray the world doesn’t follow in these footsteps but we’ll just have to see.
The way it looks, the future is the death of love. Hopefully there is another way.

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Funny you say “death of love.” The glimpses I see remain is after you’ve been with a girl a while, had to game her till the end, and finally leave her. You get to hear all their rantings about how they felt so deeply for you blah blah blah. Their egos are so emboldened as to not show this aforementioned love until you dump them.

I often want to ask, but never bother:”How many potentially good mates are you going to justify as unworthy of your false excellence before no more good mates want you bitch?” It used to be entertaining watching all women in the west follow the collective movement of women, now it’s just sad and unfortunate.

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Because the shit they follow is becoming more and more absurd.
Seems like they would rather go to the grave having failed at life than have one honest conversation and just fix this mess.

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In most relationship women show their true feelings for their loved ones just fine. I see that everywhere around me, family, friends, etc. The men will also show their love back, of course.

Men who attract/date damaged, cold and/or obnoxious women are: damaged, cold and/or obnoxious men themselves and/or men who are attracted to some of the other traits a woman like that will have.
I’ve heard of and know plenty of these guys who are super nice, gentle and devoted, but that ends up going after/being attracted to the most unrestrained, hysterical and obviously twisted type of women. And they do it over and over again and in the end complain and cry that no woman will take them seriously and that they will finish last.
Many of them will have a down to earth, smart girl interested in them from time to time, but they will just say “pass!” and keep going after the twisted girls… I wonder if many of these guys, deep down, aren’t just scared of commitment.

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Did you know that people who say they can spot a liar are the worst ones at correctly guessing whose truthful? The fact is even if you’re a compulsive liar yourself, or trained at spotting a liar, it’s very hard to nail down a good liar and say for certain. So guys end up wasting time, out of scarcity, 1-3-6-12 months or more “learning” if the person is lying or not, rather than acting on behavioral clues and sound circumstantial evidence. It isn’t necessarily a damaged or crazy duality of attraction as you state.

It’s called getting fuckin hoodwinked, fleeced, snookered. Just like women want macho alpha men, guys want sexy women who aren’t boring and super prude. Occasionally a guy finds a “down to earth, smart girl,” who by chance is a freak in bed, and it’s a win/win. And yes, sexual desire is very important. You know who the shadiest women I’ve met are? Religious (claiming, not in practice) Church Goers, career oriented, graduate degreed. That’s why guys fall for them. They seem to have everything in order, but often turn out to be the worst women available.

“I wonder if many of these guys, deep down, aren’t just scared of commitment.” << Let's make a deal. We go in business, half of my shit is yours. For no justifiable reason, you can break our deal and take half my shit. Is it really hard to figure out it doesn't take an Einstein brain to prove men are practicing risk aversion here that can save their entire life and all their dreams?

For what, A woman who dreams of Americanized tropical vacations, purses, shoes, or some hipster "save the planet" SJW cause. Men want balance. That's what life is supposed to be about for both genders. A majority aggregate of women have little balance to offer. There ya have it. Plus, the laws protect this thievery and immoral imbalance practiced by women. More men are starting to look at women as lose/lose.. well except for pussy. And women are looking at literally every man they see as win/win. Why wouldn't they, wtf do they have to lose

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Younger women these days prefer older lovers from sugar dating sites like tempted.com and hook up with successful men for mutually beneficial, fuck buddy relationships.

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Oh just FUCK OFF already!

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This is the sad truth of how it is in The West with women. This is a great article by Roosh.

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This is a seriously depressing article. Sadly, it is all true for 99% of women, who are only good for being worthless fucktoys. Thanks, feminism!

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Yeah, someone who talks about “99%” of any group of people are not hysterical, immature and in need of some intelect at all.
I don’t think “99%” of women will even see you as a worthless fucktoy dildo that they could use for a while, so they are still one step ahead.

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Agree 100%. At the moment i really like a girl but i cant show im too needy because she will lose interest in me.. I send all my txts to her at lunchtime and at long night intervals just to show im ‘busy’

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Brutal because its true.

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This is the best thing Roosh has ever written.

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Molested repeatedly at ages 6-7 by an older boy, parents divorced, african american/white mixed race with all white school, lots of half siblings, constant bullying and physical abuse in school. Assaulted an officer as a youth, got arrested a few times. Institutionalized 3 times now. Textbook definition of damaged. 0 natural lady skills, became game aware at ~20 and did my best to practice, but virgin until 24 when I met another super damaged individual in our grad math program. She had lived with her parents until age 33 (moved out shortly before we began banging) and had severe schizophrenia and would routinely start crying for no reason in the middle of classes. She hadn’t dated for 11 years prior, most likely a virgin when we met but I don’t know. Relationship lasted about a year, she eventually moved back with her parents ~30 minutes away at age 34 and left me shortly afterword as I was beginning a high paying job. It sucked. 2nd bang was 30 years old, recovering drug addict, and has 5 kids. I still have not had sex with a woman under 30 and my n count is 2 at age 26 now.

I disagree with this article. Being damaged definitely did not help me one bit in this arena. Didn’t help our boy Elliot Rodger much either. This is actually kind of insensitive to the truly damaged. Maybe you just mean lightly damaged like dad liked to have a few brews every night and missed a few football games?

plz respond.

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Also between 20-24 I made ~300 cold approaches, asked for phone number 60 times, got it 48 of those, and went on 8 first dates out of those, so yes I tried my ass off. The times I actually was successful in getting dick wet I did the opposite of what the game wisdom esposes; they were friends initially and it gradually evolved into something sexual.

The vast majority of the women I asked out were white and American, however of the 8 first dates, 7 were not raised in America (6 east Asians, 1 Costa Rican), so Roosh’s advice on foreign vs American women was on point for me at least.

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300 approaches should be done in 6’months not 4’years

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Simply brilliant.

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Another classic post from Roosh.

+1 for this.

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You’ve got your psychology mixed up I think. Troubled childhood doesn’t automatically give you these “desirable” traits, personality is genetic most of all. Then it matters too what kind of environment you live in, growing up with more brothers as opposed to sisters, makes you more desirable as a rule. But not so much how much trouble and drama you had growing up.

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This article is too black and white. Real life has many shades of grey. You must mix bad boy and provider characteristics. Seeking that pure virgin to mate with is just as ridiculous as settling down with a prostitute. There are many girls that want to have a nuclear family. Not being a supplicating beta does not mean you have to be a sociopath. Having an outcome independent mindset is the strength that you need.

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Strange things happen .. i was thinking about exactly this topic for last couple days,and i wanted to write here in comments and say to some of my friends that, man who has good soul and experienced real love from his parents is not “prepared” to successfully communicate with modern women .. he will met a big frustration and can possibly damage his nerve system and eaven personality…Ideas is flying in the air.. and, it is really serious topic..

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While I don’t actually agree with you, I am surprisingly entertained by your posts. I like that you are clever, witty and brave enough to say what I am sure many men have thought but were too scared to ever express. P.S. – While I am not Asian, I do write poetry and aspire to participate in a poetry slam someday. Thanks to your insightful post, I have scheduled an appointment with my doctor to proactively get in front of the crazy that I’m obviously doomed for. =)

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Bullshit. This only works if you are extroverted and aggressive. Otherwise, you won’t be noticed and often downright avoided. I check most of the boxes you mention, suffer from depression and rage much of the time and yet and highly introverted. I’ve never naturally drawn women.

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Y’all good folks fail to understand the main reason WHY North American females might be attracted to all kinds of damaged males.
You should know that EVERY North American female sees herself as a Beauty Queen, Miss Universe and Miss Intellect in ONE package thus the need to constantly prove this to HERSELF resulting in search for those “damaged” males with NO self esteem, no desire to differ and stand up and be counted who’d never object anything coming from a female!!!
Just imagine the situation when a North American female gets together with a sporty man with personality, who has OWN thoughts, opinions and visions, who ain’t politically correct, who says what he means, who leads by example and dares to stand up and be counted!! That kind of a male will overshadow the female at any given moment but North American females ain’t used to be in the shadow of a male since THEY ARE Princesses and Miss Intellect/Beauty/Wisdom etc! Thus this kind of a male will NEVER be attractive to them, he’ll be labeled dangerous, politically incorrect, enemy of the state, a loser and called all the possible “names” a female can invent so to say.
North American women can’t stand competition from a male! They’ll go on and on about how males should get better, work on themselves in all aspects, but at the same time they’ll NEVER apply the same criteria to THEMSELVES!!!! They are flawless and can’t make no mistake thus should be treated as Queens and given everything on a silver platter!
Males and males only are to blame for all this happening since it’s them who’ve lowered their standards and selection criteria and settled for the lowest of the low in order to get access to that elusive female pussy!!! Even if it’s a pussy of an ugly whale of a woman!
Wanna change that? Dare to differ, to have an own opinion, to stand up and be counted and to lead by example!!!!
Better yet: get sporty and educated, learn a trade and a foreign language, save some money and leave North America behind for good! You’ll never regret it or look back!

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Your comments always make sense man.

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One of the biggest problems in the manosphere is that a lot of the guys who take part in it are coming into it from a place of hurt, insecurity and in the mindset of expecting something from nothing. In other words, you’re expecting success from your current state of being when clearly, the reality is that you must improve yourself in order to improve different aspects of your life.

It is no different to a fat feminist expecting a rich, socially savvy and good looking man and then fucking the world and the people around her when things aren’t going how she wants.

Its clear that the less traits you have that define attractive, the more asshole you need to present yourself as a retaliation to women and to make yourself believe that thats what it takes to compensate lack of good external attributes.

Why not do the opposite and instead, accept the way things currently are and seek to become the best person you can be??

I’ve noticed that the more i’ve improved myself, the less i’ve had to adopt the asshole attributes Roosh prescribes in his article. There’s really no need to put a girl down in order to make her attracted. Why would you? Would a high value man do that? more importantly, would a high value woman appreciate or respect it? Of course not!

I would challenge anyone to forget about the goal of fucking women for a few days and instead, focus on spreading value and leaving a positive effect with the people you surround yourself with. Then stop and analyse your results.

A true high value man doesn’t need to bring people down in order to get what he wants because it will assume that he doesn’t already have it.

Roosh is correct to a certain level. Damaged men are attractive… To damaged women… Like attracts like… Something to think about.

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I tend to disagree somewhat with your thoughts. The general concept is correct but the problem is that ANY female in North America will have a horde of male followers ready and willing to comply with every order she’s giving them and to lower their standards below the threshold just to get that ever elusive access to that ever elusive pussy! And it doesn’t matter if it’s a pussy of an ugly morbidly obese whale of a woman who’ll treat this male like garbage while disrespecting any of his needs or wishes!
North American society encourages and promotes such a behavioral pattern from a female part since a female can NEVER be at fault no matter what she does or what she says! She’s always right in a society overwhelmed by political correctness, quota hiring, affirmative action and feminism!
I still say: “Males, get you shit together, man up, get sporty and educated, learn a trade and a foreign language and LEAVE North America FOR GOOD! You’ll never regret this decision!”

Onder Hassan
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Man you guys must be doing something seriously wrong over there. I’ve yet to meet any seriously fucked up American girls over in London where I live. Maybe i’m just gullible or am naturally good at avoiding the bad ones, but surely it can’t be that bad.

ExCanadian
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Look, in order to get to London a North American female should travel first, and travel Transatlantic. It eliminates a lot of females who’ve never traveled outside of their province or state.
London is a big city and it’s easy to get lost in it. What are the chances for you to meet a fucked up North American female when you are just walking the streets of London? Slim to none.
One HAS TO LIVE in North America to fully understand the situation.
P.S. North American women seem to be a bit more open and less fucked up when traveling abroad, so please take that into consideration as well. But again, one has to understand that North American women are absolutely the worst creatures in the world in their LOCAL surroundings and should be avoided by all means possible!

John
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My thoughts exactly. It’s pretty lame when Roosh shamelessly panders to the angry low self esteem contingent by implying women are a bunch of worthless skanks who only sleep with the emotionally abusive. I can’t see any other reason to espouse a bitter and gross oversimplification of human psychology as the path to success.

Onder Hassan
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Exactly. For every bad girl i’ve met, I’ve also met nice girls who didn’t need any game besides a simple ‘hello’. Some would say that maybe she was good to me but bad to others. But I refuse to see it that way for the simple reason that humans aren’t painted in black and white.

But as much as the manosphere likes to think it knows all the answers. There’s perhaps a bigger picture that often doesn’t get mentioned. And it’s that certain attitudes and behaviours attracts certain people.

If you think bitchy and bad women are in the majority, than thats exactly what you’ll bring into your reality by learning to act and behave in a certain way in order to attract them whilst naturally rejecting the good girls and not realising you’re doing it. There are loads of them around, just that you’re refusing to focus on them.

The manosphere hasn’t done good up to now in indoctrinating men on this fact. Yes women are sexual and like sex. No, they aren’t all bad.

SlickyBoy
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Spot on analysis.

john
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You’re definitely not going to get invited to private parties where the exceptionally attractive/non-slutty girls hang out if your value amounts to some clownish american psycho gimmick. If you’re good at any relatively mainstream hobby/sport you’re way better off than having some flimsy gimmick, because even if it’s a manly sport you will at the very least get the respect of other quality men who are inevitably going to have quality women around them or at least a better idea how to talk to them than a jaded keyboard jockey.

Would you be dying to date a woman that is only moderately attractive and a mediocre writer at a relatively unknown feminist blog. Roosh is kind of the male version of that as far as women are concerned. Still he acts entitled to beautiful/feminine/non-promiscuous 8+ women, but doesn’t really have what they value so he advocates gimmicks that are fatally flawed for long term success instead of facing the fact that he should probably develop some skills that women actually value beyond acting like a clown. You obviously can’t sustain the clown act for an entire relationship.