Women Who Own iPhones Lose The Ability To Love

I want you to think of your grandparents and the love they had. It’s true that maybe your grandmother felt “stuck” with gramps, but for better or worse their relationship endured for some time and there was a golden period of at least a decade where they were completely dedicated to each other. Unless one of your grandmothers was a flight attendant on the first commercial jets and saw daily affections from new men, she was absolutely not cheating on grandpa.

Fast forward to today. What comes to your mind when I ask you to think about the concept of love in America? Did you laugh? Shake your head? When was the last time you ever heard a woman say “I love him,” even referring to her husband? The ability for women to love is being murdered, and the assassin is the smartphone.

Philosophers and poets have given many wonderful definitions of love, but to keep it simple, there are only two main components:

1. Mutual attraction
2. Lack of other options

You can argue that being “in love” is different in that it involves some sort of passion or lust, but for many centuries love has come to mean being attracted to someone while simultaneously not having better options. A married woman in the 1900’s would be hit on maybe once a year by the butcher and that was it. The love she had for her husband was not disturbed unless he went off to war. Today? She could gain 30 pounds and be hit on ten times a day. There is no other tool that increases the amount of times a woman is hit on than a smartphone.

For women, the smartphone is a bridge to receive offers of penis twenty-four hours a day. With text messaging and use of apps that connect her to Facebook, dating sites, Instagram, and the like, your average girl is receiving subtle and not-so-subtle sexual offers every other hour. She even gets to hear a bell tone when a new penis is putting in his attempt. The smartphone is a perfectly designed machine for women to field dozens and dozens of penis offerings every month when in the previous generation your average woman wouldn’t receive that many in a lifetime.

This constant shower of penis makes it absolutely and hopelessly impossible for a girl to experience love. She can experience passion, and she can be in lust for a short period of time, but within a year of any relationship, the sheer amount of cock still coming through her iPhone will make her feel like she didn’t get the best man she could have, or feel that her life isn’t as exciting as it could be. She will be unable to settle with one man and be happy. The pitiful option left for men to cope with these times is to “game” their wife—after she took a vow to serve him till death do her part—so that he can rise above the cock offerings that won’t stop coming.

I know what my female readers are thinking: “Well guys have smartphones, too! They are incapable of love just like me!”

And you would be incorrect. For men, the smartphone is a tool to gain a sexual option. Asking a woman on a date or trying to win her favor via text messaging or Facebook makes her a mere prospect. A potential prospect who might be sexually interested in you, who might say yes, is not the same as having guys at the ready immediately come over if you just say the words. The psychological effect of being offered guaranteed dick is not the same as being able to offer some dick. One is passive while the other is a numbers game that takes fifty times more energy for absolutely no set reward.

The minute a man stops using his phone is the minute all potential prospects dry up. If I take a week off from the game, my phone doesn’t make a beep. I don’t even need to re-charge it once but every three days. But if a woman takes a “break” from the game, or changes her relationship status to engaged on Facebook, will the cock offerings dry up? Will she stop receiving “What are you doing this weekend?” text messages? Of course not. Even when a man receives a commitment from a woman, he must still compete with other men as if his girlfriend is eternally stuck in a sausage fest nightclub.

Peer into a woman’s smartphone and you’ll find Las Vegas, nonstop blinking lights and action. Peer into a man’s smartphone who isn’t working on his game and you’ll find something out of a country Western with tumbleweeds rolling through. The only text messages he may very well receive are service notices from his cell phone provider announcing the newest data plan special. Love is dead only for women, not for men. If anything, men are much more interested in love and serious relationships than women are, but they cannot fight the culture tsunami that is drowning them. They want to love a woman who has become incapable of it because of her unconditional adoption of a machine that is only good for one thing: playing the field.

On a Friday night in Croatia I took a beautiful girl out for drinks. I weaseled her back to my place and we had sex. After she left, I fantasized about having sex with her again. I was excited that I could take a break and focus on her instead of having to chase new girls. On Saturday night, by accident, I met another girl in the club. We talked and kissed for hours. Her body was slightly better than the first girl, but she was otherwise similar. When I woke up on Sunday and lay in bed, the girl on my mind was the one I met on Saturday night, not the one I had sex with. The girl from Friday almost felt like a distant memory, as if she got bumped out of view by the newer girl, though my penis was inside her less than 48 hours before.

For women who have smartphones, you’re the one getting “bumped.” You get bumped down the list as more cock offerings come into view and the memory of having a conversation or date with you travel farther away in her mind. The smartphone alone changes her behavior. It changes the way she dates and how she selects men for sex.

I’ve been to many countries and it’s no surprise that foreign women with smartphones are much more similar to their American counterparts than the ones without. Her attention becomes more fragmented, her attitude increases, and she’s less willing to put work into the interaction, symptoms that come from receiving an overload of male attention via a tool that seems to be perfectly designed for it. If a girl has a smartphone in hand, she is simply less able to commit to a man. She will experience constant malaise because of all the hot action she’d hate to “miss.” When she’s ready to cheat—and she will—she will have at least five guys who would jump at the prospect without her having to do much more than send a “How are you?” text message.

If the changes brought by the internet weren’t disruptive enough, men now have to compete with smartphone devices that simultaneously force them to compete with other men who in the past wouldn’t even fall under their girl’s radar. We’re arriving at the point where women don’t need to lift a finger to get with men because so many desperate, supplicative men inflate her ego, worsen her attitude, and make her lazy when it comes to any relationship. Why should she put in work when she doesn’t have to? Why should she commit when she’s so obviously desired? Did you not notice that the last self-shot photo she uploaded on Facebook got 40 likes? She doesn’t care if you get annoyed when she flakes. She doesn’t care if you don’t like her flip flops.

Soon every woman in the world will have a smartphone, and the idea of commitment and love will be a throwback, something that belongs in old movies. Until then, when I’m talking to a girl and she pulls out some piece of shit old Nokia phone, I can’t help but get a little excited. I know she will be warmer, I know she won’t flake, and I know that I’m about to have an experience with a woman that will give me an honest shot. But if she pulls out a smartphone, I know that she’ll just be adding me to her collection of penises. She’s the celebrity, and I’m nothing more than a fan.

Read More: How Culture Affects Game


  1. Frisky business October 29, 2012 at 9:14 am

    So true.

  2. Wald October 29, 2012 at 9:18 am

    I met up with an Au Pair a week ago. Before the meet up, I had made fun of her and her orbiters.

    “Look at this picture”

    “Wow – so many likes. It’s probably because you’re on the beach.

    The guys think – (creepy beta voice) Oh, you like the beach.

    Let me tell you..”

    She laughs (sometimes until tears come out).

    Thank god she had a nokia.

  3. trickykid October 29, 2012 at 9:21 am

    Solid post roosh.

  4. Brandon October 29, 2012 at 9:23 am

    jesus dude…good observation. This is more reason to be playing the field instead of committing to the average women with a smart phone. Like Tomassi said, ‘men are the romantics and women are the realists.’

    Men want love but lots of women are increasingly becoming incapable of it. It’s best to have a steady rotation and screen out the worst of the worst…however, most modern men can never accept this and will probably be destroyed by a woman.

  5. Wodi October 29, 2012 at 9:23 am

    Fucking wow Roosh!

  6. Ronfar October 29, 2012 at 9:41 am

    So things will only get worse? Great.

    Even the ugliest chicks will think they’re supermodels with enough attention. We’re seeing that happen…

    1. Fantaman December 3, 2015 at 12:15 pm

      I see it already at work

  7. greenlander October 29, 2012 at 9:43 am

    LMFAO! It’s so true!

  8. Niko October 29, 2012 at 9:44 am

    Great observation. I always judged LTR potential based on how e-connected a girl is. Facebook account, bad sign. Smartphone chiming every two seconds, bad sign. iPhone and/or iPad, horrible sign.

    Unfortunately this isn’t going to go away, quite the contrary. So it’s either moving somewhere where relationship dynamics aren’t yet influenced by technology so much, meaning second world countries or some shitty province in almost-first-world countries, or adapt.

  9. Turner October 29, 2012 at 9:57 am

    haha You could write the next blink or tipping point on this topic.

  10. Ralph October 29, 2012 at 9:57 am

    By now we know what a genius you are, but here you have outdone yourself. Today, a picture of you is going up on my wall!

  11. Henry October 29, 2012 at 9:58 am

    I can’t decide if you are absurdly reaching, or spot on.

  12. JackBlack October 29, 2012 at 10:03 am

    If you have any experience dealing with twentysomething American girls these days, you would know that he is spot on.

  13. 3rd Millenium Men October 29, 2012 at 10:13 am

    Absolutely brilliant Roosh.

    “For women, the smartphone is a bridge to receive offers of penis twenty-four hours a day.”

    Haha too true. Girls have the opportunity to live out Paris Hilton-esque fantasies if they want.

    Keep the great writing and insights coming.

  14. OldHornDog October 29, 2012 at 10:41 am

    Roosh – put the gun down and call the suicide help line 😉

    Word – here in Spain most chicas are too broke to afford a decent smart phone. The fees are too expensive as well, so I rarely see them use it. Result – more open minded, feminine, friendly women. I hope they raise the fees during the crisis – the more unaffordable this shit gets the better for us.

  15. willy wonka October 29, 2012 at 10:56 am

    “On a Friday night in Croatia I took a beautiful girl out for drinks. I weaseled her back to my place and we had sex”

    Don’t lie Roosh, she was a fat bitch like all the other girls, when are you going to start posting some pics of these girls like your content suppliers?

    You are nothing

    1. Seb October 14, 2015 at 4:16 am

      LOL YOU ARE NOTHING LOL THAT MADE MY DAY, even though I completely disagree with you the guy is spot on.

  16. Glupak October 29, 2012 at 10:57 am

    Does anyone remember the HIMYM epsiode ‘Rabbit or Duck’? In it, Barney has a magic phone which is ringing non stop with hot booty calls. In the end, he ends up not banging a single one because he’s constantly worried the next girl calling might be hotter.

    This post make it plain obvious why this wouldn’t be the least bit funny with the sexes reversed; it would be a documentary, not comedy.

  17. Jon October 29, 2012 at 11:21 am

    Yeah, this is true. In the Philippines, few girls have smartphones. Moreover, it’s a country with few stable, faithful men, so the girls are very warm and friendly towards stable, decent men.

    Unfortunately for us men, the country is growing economically. God help us all when most of the world has smartphones. That’s the day when men will commit suicide in droves.

  18. Oregonziggy October 29, 2012 at 11:33 am

    Even women in my age group are the same. 40 ish women are the same if not worse. They are getting attention like they never did in their 20’s.

    Glued to their phones getting tons of attention

  19. Nomad77 October 29, 2012 at 11:39 am

    This trend of access to people and information will only continue and the pace will increase. Regardless, quality men and women will always be in demand and probably more appreciated the more options you have and the more people you know.

  20. Heywood Jablome October 29, 2012 at 11:44 am

    This is an arms race of sorts. So what’s the countermeasure?

  21. cape codder October 29, 2012 at 11:48 am

    So true. This MURDERED my last LTR.

  22. bodmon October 29, 2012 at 11:59 am

    real talk

  23. Aureo October 29, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    Exactly! What is the fucking countermeasure?

  24. Isaac Jordan October 29, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    Spot on, Roosh.

    I remember my college girlfriend freaking out one night when she lost her phone. It wasn’t that she was worried about the cost of replacing it, or that someone might steal her identity. No, she was worried about MISSING OUT.

    What if her sorority sisters organized a girls’ night out and she was the only one not attending? What if all her friends had some amazing adventure and she wasn’t able to relive it during lunch discussions the next day? What if everyone develops some hilarious inside joke she’ll never get to be a part of?

    The female need to be in touch with the herd is something most men will never understand. Being excluded from the group is a status-destroyer, and we all know how girls live and die by their status. Using a smartphone to stay connected to the herd is today’s equivalent of sitting at the cool kids’ table in the high school cafeteria.

    Facebook makes this even worse, because people only post the fun, interesting things they do. When a girl logs on, she doesn’t see her friends doing their homework, or washing the dishes, or slogging through expense reports. She just sees FUN FUN FUN and OHMYGOD does she HAVE to be a part of it all.

    Like the Barney hook-up phone example from one of the above posters, the idea that something better is going on somewhere else makes it impossible for her to enjoy whatever she has (whether it be a man, or an activity, or a job, etc.). It’s like hypergamy applied to social situations. You can’t enjoy a night at home watching movies with your boyfriend when you can SEE all the parties/boys/excitement going on elsewhere. Social media and women’s need to both stay connected and climb the status ladder makes it so that the grass is always greener somewhere else.

    1. Dan November 11, 2014 at 11:59 pm

      I know a lot of people think that contemporary pop music is crap, but your post reminds me of the song “Halfway Gone” by Lifehouse. The lyrics are actually quite good at describing the dilemma that men face with a lot of women these days. Two lines from the second verse stand out: “You got one foot out the door / and choking on the other / always thinking something more / is just around the corner…” And part of the chorus really says it all: “‘Cause you’re halfway in / but don’t take too long / ’cause I’m halfway gone…”

      Never be with a woman who wastes your time.

  25. Anonymous October 29, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    better head to greece a n italy while there stil broke

  26. thecaptainpower October 29, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    The worst is that they don’t have any attention span because of the phones….

    I left 2 dates early because the bitches wouldn’t get off their phones…

    1. Seb October 14, 2015 at 4:17 am

      HEAR HERE!! More men MUST do this

  27. Doc October 29, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    So very true… I don’t know why guys want more than to just enjoy the unending pu**y train… To be honest, I don’t want to have to deal with the day-to-day crap – I prefer to enjoy her when I want her, and not deal with the drama afterwards…

    So it’s all good in my book…

  28. Lord Belial October 29, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    “I know that she’ll just be adding me to her collection of penises”

    who gives a fuck? there’s a double standard here. For a player its standard practice to fuck a bitch then never call her again, and to have a steady rotation of bitches. You don’t think bitches are going to do the same thing? Sounds like typical Madonna/Whore thing going on here… remember, you are not a unique snowflake!

    1. fd April 23, 2014 at 12:40 am

      this isn’t productive and bad form. If one wants to pua this way, one must make plausible excuses of why they can’t keep the relationship going, e.g. got a new job where i am out of town, have to take care of fam, etc. cold breakups are for jerks and ruins vibes for everyone.

  29. Gabriele October 29, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    The right move when girls act like this is just going away,or say that if she prefers to stay with her friends you too have other things to do. Anyway, good post Roosh. I’m really losing faith and nearly giving up…it’s so difficult to find a “normal” girl our days!!! The only solution is to go where all of this has not happened yet I guess.

  30. LD October 29, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    Right on point. Best post along with the Logistics post.

  31. Bogart October 29, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    Great post Roosh.

    This is indeed a very serious problem that will only get worse, as every corner of the third world is penetrated by discount phone providers and internet services.

    There are some asking about countermeasures. These are the ones who have their heads in the right place.

    As usual, the blame comes squarely back to men. This whole big mess of feminism and bitchy unfaithful women is all men’s fault. Men are the actors in this world. Men have agency. Men make the rules and say what does or doesn’t happen. If our women become spoiled, traitorous cunts, it is only because we allowed…nay encouraged…them to do so.

    Every mangina asshole with a daughter out there is to blame. Every mealy-mouthed little weasel of a husband who puts up with his wife’s attitude is the problem. Every desperate sucker who thinks supplication will get him laid is the problem. And, as alphas this is our most important concern: every alpha male that continues to give any attention to women like this, and refuses to establish firm expectations of behavior, is a MAJOR part of the problem.

    Guys that run around hitting on anything with a pussy because “it’s a numbers game” are leaving thousands of falsely inflated egos in their wake, fucking up the landscape for everyone else. Facebook orbiters and suck ups are conditioning girls to expect absurd amounts of attention. Don’t be one of them.

    The countermeasures are simple.
    1) Become a highly desirable alpha male (isn’t that what we’re all here to accomplish?)

    2) Exercise a high degree of discrimination in the girls you will hit on or date or sleep with. Have high standards and never lower them.

    3) Never play a part in the supplication and flattery game. Purposely avoid all complements except on very special occasions. You need to condition her back to the normal state where girls do not expect complements merely for breathing and showing up.

    4) Refuse to deal with a woman who breaks your rules or is always distracted with orbiters and social media – NO MATTER HOW HOT SHE IS. This is your nuclear bomb guys. If a desirable alpha male is willing to walk away from the chance at sex with a 9 or a 10 because she spent too long twiddling on her iphone, it sends an incredibly powerful message, and begins to tip the scales back in our favor.

    I expect all but a couple of you to dismiss all this and continue being beta orbiter pussy hounds running around complementing cunts all day because you think you are “sarging”. You are the fucking beta white knight trash that you love to criticize. It’s guys like you that are the problem – chasing pussy like a pathetic little dog looking for a bone – no self control or masculine agency.

    In short, become a fucking PATRIARCH again and this silly bullshit from bitches will become a distant memory…and as a side bonus you might just help save western civilization.

    The reason women didn’t cheat on their husbands back in grandpa’s day is because the men were alphas that didn’t let a bitch walk all over them. Today’s men are metrosexual little pussy boys. It disgusts me.

    1. Scott Gurstein January 26, 2014 at 3:17 am

      Let’s not forget all the guys like ME (are there any?) who will not approach women without first being invited to do so, because we are afraid we are invading her space. That’s me. I have’t been with a woman in years.

    2. Manny Fal May 7, 2014 at 8:35 am

      Or just convert to islam.

      1. Dan November 12, 2014 at 12:11 am

        No thanks; I only want to go back in time about 25 years, not 500 years.

      2. Charles Delacharnier February 19, 2015 at 11:29 am

        not working, it’s still in the feminist era

    3. dheeraj June 8, 2015 at 2:55 am

      turned down a 16yr old average looking fatty for sex recently. I was in two minds about it since hadn’t got any action for two weeks (primarily from being busy with work). took the boner test…..she failed that (Thank you Roosh)
      With all the smartphone attention…likes…etc…she thought she could snag any high SMV guy purely coz she got pussy. Bubble bursted….I said…Welcome to the real world where you ain’t even worth pumping and dumping.

    4. Seb October 14, 2015 at 4:20 am

      Have I told you how fucking brilliant you are today? You need to make this a static web page and word of mouth needs to get out there to read this HOW TO BE A MAN AGAIN MANIFESTO LOVE THIS!!

    5. Name March 30, 2017 at 3:13 pm

      Nobody realizes that Hollywood and the Porn industry advertises ONLY black men to women? In America all you hear from white women is BBC. DO NOT LIE! Every Hollywood movie and tv sitcom has a Black Man/ White Women scenario. Never the other way around. White men are being rejected by the majority of girls. The media protrays white men as BETA and rapists/ weak, small d***, etc. While Black men are the sexiest thing on earth and every one of them has a big d***.

      “Once you go black you never go Back” is what I hear from American Women.

      One of my best friends is black and he loved this white girl Sarah. Sarah loved black men but when she turned 30 she broke up with my friend and left him like a piece of turd. Now she’s in Europe banging white boys trying to get married(or did get married). Her mother had the nerve to tell my friend He was the only one she ever “truly loved”

      Its only when Women hit the age of 30 they start thinking about marriage and that’s when the white guys come in play.

      Im not racist or anything but its weird when you have 80% of the population fantasizing about 12% of the population. This is social engineering.

      Im from Europe living in America(late 20’s) I have never seen anything like this in my life. Only in America

      In my local college I see certain girls walking around glued to their smartphones, not looking left or right. They literally look like walking zombies. They dont pay attention to nobody, dont greet nobody, dont smile, they just look at their smart phones. When they want to sit down they still keep looking at their smartphones.

      I approached this filipino girl in my local college and she was totally caught off-guard by the Human interaction. I got her number but she never responded. She lives in a Virtual World where parties and FUN is going on.

  32. Bogart October 29, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Once your mind has been poisoned with the equalist religion, beta becomes ingrained in your DNA.

    The first step, if you haven’t done this already, is to firmly convince yourself that women are in fact inferior to men, and are here to be led by us. The cannot be trusted to make good decisions or guide their own lives, and crave a man with a stronger frame to do those things for them. If you cannot accept that premise with 100% internal certainty, you’re not an alpha yet. If you are an alpha, a woman will cancel her iphone contract on your say so (after a few good dickings).

    It’s the guys that have daughters that are the worst backsliders, no matter how alpha they once were. They want to tip the scales of the world in little cupcake’s favor because they are selfish douchebags.

  33. Onder October 29, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    This is exactly why women start to take love and commitment more seriously as they age because their dwindling options start to put them on equal grounds with men who have to now work hard to gain someone’s attention.

    But the difference is, even when women get to that stage in their life, rather than taking life by the horns with their dating life like us men and make something happen. They become bitter, jaded and entitled due to their past experience of being pursued by cock. In other words, they simply do not want to admit that they’re now on the losing end of the deal or feel like they have to rely on anything else besides their dwindling looks.

    The hotter a girl is, the worse off it is for them in the long term since they don’t have to rely on anything else but their looks to attract a man which is temporary. Once it’s over, they have nothing else to rely on.

    Its the reason why uglier girls have better personalities because it’s the only quality they have left to develop and probably a more attractive quality anyway.

    If a woman relies on her sex appeal to attract men, and less on their character, then don’t expect a man to move on after he’s done and dusted.

    What about after sex? That’s the question which the most attractive women seem to disregard in the long term.

    1. dheeraj June 8, 2015 at 3:00 am

      It’s like a drug.like putting them on heroin (attention..validation from age 15-25) for extended period of time and then reducing the dose until 30.
      from age 30 onwards its cold hard withdrawal.

  34. ColSpanker October 29, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    “Peer into a woman’s smartphone and you’ll find Las Vegas, nonstop blinking lights and action. Peer into a man’s smartphone who isn’t working on his game and you’ll find something out of a country Western with tumbleweeds rolling through.”
    I bow to your wisdom, Master Roosh.

  35. LHMX October 29, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    @32 Bogart

    Some great insights, but you need to learn the difference between “complement” and “compliment.” Misusing it once is a typo; misusing it three times is a pattern.

    Note: You should be using “compliment.”


  36. Bogart October 29, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    @LMHX my bad, that’s a tricky one. good catch.

    BTW if guys really wanted to do good for their daughters, they would be a good alpha role model, keep mom in loving submission by using the amused mastery demeanor, show her how to be a great wife and mother, and not fill her head with career aspirations. That would be encouraging her to find real world happiness, not the phony fool’s gold of equalist relationships and career competition.

    There is a great companion piece to this post up at Roissy’s today.

  37. Pedro Cristiano October 29, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Girls that are used to 90 likes on their FB pictures are used to the attention.

    The problem is with the average chicks that don’t turn heads in real life and resort to social networks like its a heroin addiction to feed their ego.

    Its these 5’s to 8’s that want to feel like supermodels, because they want to feel like a 10.

    I enjoyed the article on how to ruin the cockblocks night and have been putting it to use.

    To me it is a mental battle between “STFU and avoid confrontational talk to get the notch” mindset vs “STFU you retarded 7” outburst.

  38. Casual October 29, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    I also think you’re grossly overestimating how much attention the average woman gets. Yes, the hottest girls receive a ton of attention and competition, and require vigilance, but I think that’s always been the case for the top 10% (although not to the degree that it is now). Average women might receive a little more attention and options than before, but the situation isn’t quite as dire as you make it out to be.

  39. uncle October 29, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    “As usual, the blame comes squarely back to men.

    Every desperate sucker who thinks supplication will get him laid is the problem.

    Bogart knows!

  40. Red Pill October 29, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    Spot on.

    I like the way Roosh calls out the married “gamers” on their bullshit. There are too many jesus freaks and married nerds masquerading as playas.

  41. hmmm October 29, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    anyone thinking they have 800 possible good options (usually an illusion) won’t fully appreciate a REAL good possibility right at her fingertips

  42. Anonymous October 29, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    I see lots of good points being made here. in particular, I like what Onder said about women craving love and commitment as they age. the thing is, smartphones are still a relatively new device. once they’ve been around longer, I think what we will see is a lot more slightly older single women; ie late 20’s, early 30’s. they will still be single because they all had smartphones when they were younger, and as they age they will have to compete against a younger, sexier generation of girls with smartphones.

    I’m probably going to get some flack for saying this on here, but it may actually turn out to be a good thing for us later on. any woman in her 30’s who is still single and hot will be a lot more desperate to find a man than she was ten years ago, and if there is competition between the various age groups of girls, that should put us back on top.

    if there is a table with like a 12-set of 20 somethings that are all there for validation and attention-seeking, and another table over there is a nice 2 or 3-set of late 20’s/early 30’s women who are desperate to find a man and are there specifically for that purpose, then what do you guys think will happen? does anyone else think this might be a realistic possibility in the future?

  43. wolfen October 29, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    i said this about the invention of the internet fucken briliant roosh

  44. Shawn October 29, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    “Philosophers and poets have given many wonderful definitions of love, but to keep it simple, there are only two main components:

    1. Mutual attraction
    2. Lack of other options”

    3. Respect

  45. mike October 29, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    LMAO Roosh you are too funny I love your writing. a device to field penis offerings hahaha.

    Ok I’m done laughing now cuz the shit is true

  46. Steve October 29, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    Been seeing more and more of this lately – guy and girl have a great first date, no lay, never hears from her again.

    Wonder how much of it has to do with the “mainstreamization” of online dating in recent years?

    Any girl with a POF/OKC profile she has a stready stream of suitors knocking at her door. Rest assured there are hundreds of better looking thirsty dudes with more status hitting her up. These guys won’t commit but they’ll hit it and quit it.

    Men are as faithful as their options. Women are as choosy as their options. With online dating, an attractive woman’s options are seemingly infinite. In keeping with her hypergamous instincts, she’s always on the lookout for the bigger, better deal.

    In the past a woman would stick with a guy after a good date because she had no other solid prospects lined up. Now she’s more likely to stray.

    Online dating is a boon for guys who fit the media-promulgated aesthetic ideal (tall, muscular, white).

    Guys who don’t measure up physically have tough road to ho. No matter how tight his verbal game, a short Asian guy will always be hard-up when Mr. Tom Brady lookalike is hollering at her from her POF app.

    Online dating is courtship distilled to its essence sans the filter of approach anxiety.

    A 1000 rejections in the real world would cripple a man.
    A 1000 rejections in the virtual world mean nothing.

    Thousands of thirsty dudes without approach anxiety + hypergamous women with infinite options is a recipe for dating disaster. Unhappy girls who can’t get a top guy to commit, and unhappy guys who can’t get a date.

    This phenomenon is unprecedented in human history.

    And if online dating loses its stigma and becomes mainstream, it could put the average guy’s prospects in serious jeopardy.

    What % of single girls 20-29 today have online dating profiles?

  47. GuessHandsOn October 29, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    “A married woman in the 1900′s would be hit on maybe once a year by the butcher and that was it. The love she had for her husband was not disturbed unless he went off to war. Today? She could gain 30 pounds and be hit on ten times a day. There is no other tool that increases the amount of times a woman is hit on than a smartphone.”

    => Wait though… Can’t we hold accountable the game culture (of which this blog is an archetypal example) that teaches men to be aggressive in pursuing women for this?

    “If anything, men are much more interested in love and serious relationships than women are, but they cannot fight the culture tsunami that is drowning them. They want to love a woman who has become incapable of it because of her unconditional adoption of a machine that is only good for one thing: playing the field.”

    This does not sound very honest, coming from a guy who has made a career out of banging chicks.

    [Roosh: Shutup, feminist.]

  48. LosAngeles October 29, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    You are right on the point Roosh. Best examples of it is Los Angeles vs FSU.

    I live in LA and even with solid daygame my flake rate is >80%.
    However when I was in holiday in Europe last summer 3 out of 4 FSU (Belarus / Serbia / Russia) girls I met would come to date and 1 out of those 3 slept with me. None of them had smart phones, most of them didn’t have Facebook or VKontakte or were not regular visitors of the sites.

    However when I look at the Facebook profiles of girls I know from LA, they upload a ton of pictures everyday, a ton of status updates, and get their share of attention with tens of likes, comments, etc. which increases their attitude, their flake rate and decreases their ability to love, appreciate what they have, and most importantly be satisfied. Most of them want to live the life of celebrities, many of them are already living it, thanks to tons of beta orbiters stroking their ego every single second.

    It’s amazing how continous attention can effect a girl’s character and relationship dynamics in a society. It all converges to arguing if this rapid boom in social media is good or bad for our society…

  49. Umbra October 29, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    This is very true and I think the reason for it is because they aren’t paying the super high bill for smartphone plans either. EVERY single girl I’ve talked to in her early to mid 20’s had either their mom or dad’s name come up on the caller ID when they called me. I think its because they have these things on a family plan when they’re in high school and mom and dad just never stop paying for it. If they had to pay that bill, i think we’d see less of this problem.

  50. RealitiCzech October 29, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    “Can’t we hold accountable the game culture (of which this blog is an archetypal example) that teaches men to be aggressive in pursuing women for this?”
    Men have ALWAYS had to be aggressive in pursuing women. I don’t think there’s ever been a time when women did the approaching in significant numbers.
    Game is just telling the dispirited (who have just about quit) to keep approaching, in fact, approach more women in more places.

  51. Paper October 29, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    Look, the invisible elephant in the room is this…at this point in the USA, conservative muslim and orthodox/hasidic jewish men don’t have this problem. Chicks who wear head coverings or Tznius (traditional jewish) clothing (and yes, some are fucking Hot, until they gain weight, of course) stay loyal and monogamous because they both belong to communities that police their behavior. Thing is, lots of conservative jewish and muslim guys cheat.They feel sorry for you Christians, ha!

  52. Ronfar October 29, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    From Sleeper:

    “Countermeasures you ask? Well how about a portable cell jammer?


    You sir, are a LEGEND. I’m SO bringing this with me on my next date! I can’t stand it when girls are on their smartphones when you’re trying to talk to them!

  53. Bobby October 29, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    American women use iPhones to manage their “Gaggle” of beta orbiters.

    Yep, according to the NYBetaTimes review, maintaining a Gaggle–a woman’s harem of beta males–today’s Modern, Empowered Woman(TM) can finally find The Perfect One before her expiration date. No need to panic.

    Learn more about the latest cathedral to the Hamster of Delusion here:

  54. Prophet October 29, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    Roosh = GOD.

    Speaks the truth to the unwashed masses.

  55. Steve October 29, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    Another brilliant post.

  56. Anonymous October 29, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    You’re right but there should be an addendum to this article. Instead of falling in love for men that suit her logically, women become emotional thinkers and fall for disruptive incompatible men who are hyper-alpha: bastard-jocks, bouncers, gangsters, drug-dealers, famous men, notorious players.
    Anyone with novel game.

  57. Georgia Boy October 29, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    In the near future there will likely be two kinds of men: Roosh/Roissy gamers with rotating soft harems, and sexless betas with all their spare incomes seized by the government to pay the bills. Feminist/socialist liberals are hell bent on completely separating parenthood from sexual access, they see the traditional provider-husband as the bedrock of discrimination against women. You can game harder than the sea of other pensises, or you can be a sexless beta. Unless somehow the generations-long advance of feminist socialism can be stopped somehow. Next step in the process is legalizing polygamy.

  58. truth October 30, 2012 at 12:11 am

    Good post. The sad thing is, loser guys are the ones who shower the beached whales with attention even though they are totally worthless and are subhuman. It makes me puke how guys will boost a revolting girl’s ego because they are such losers

  59. SadieB October 30, 2012 at 12:15 am

    After reading the comments all I can say is – Jesus Crisis guys, no wonder your penises are lonely.

  60. anon October 30, 2012 at 12:47 am

    @62 – tired argument

    @all – how do we get the blue pill guys to stop clicking ‘like’ on fb?

  61. Anonymous October 30, 2012 at 1:30 am

    Crazy good post!!!!!!… I was standing on the bus yesterday and literally saw this girl check her Facebook every 15 seconds…and thre way they type messages so fast with both hands… Makes me wonder if they even know how to talk….

  62. Raj October 30, 2012 at 1:30 am

    @ Bogart = TRUTH

    The system is the pimp. Women are its hos and men are the johns. The system wishes to maximize every ho’s asking price (no matter the personal cost to the ho) and reduce every john’s options. Social interactive media is just one of its tools.

    The system only cares about net profit. Everything else is secondary.

    We are the system.

  63. Sasha V October 30, 2012 at 1:30 am

    Girls have too many options. I’m sick of their shit, but I won’t be going gay any time soon.

    @SadieB Prolly a spoiled Persian broad who has dick fed to her.

  64. nek October 30, 2012 at 1:35 am

    Why is everyone so concerned about relationships and seeing which type of girl is “quality”? Clearly some haven’t swallowed the red pill in it’s entirety. Women are incapable of loving a man the way men who want a relationship are seeking to be loved (Rollo has a good article on this). Let it go. Embrace the free fall. Tag some hot ass. Who cares if she has a smart phone, as long as she’ll fuck. Hell, use the phone, take a picture of your massive cock and send it to her best friend, and hopefully you’ll swing the threeway.

    I need an assist from Mark Minter right about now.

  65. Anonymous October 30, 2012 at 2:00 am

    I disbanded a group of 5 girls in squadron formation, all 8’s and one 9 in the middle, earlier this year in a locally-hyped-to-the-max club. A lot of posturing going in there, not many pulling women.. just posing.

    They were all on iPhones for about an hour, not one said a peep to anyone. Tying up prime bar real estate, yet they were the sexiest girls in there so getting a lot of looks.

    I got them to all get up and move and you could literally feel the entire atmosphere in the room lighten-up and become less uptight when they left and a lot more people seemed to start having fun after that.

    I left the bar with 2 numbers after that which led to future dates. Some of the best talent couldn’t find enough instant gratification and were killing the vibe. By showing my disgust, and removing the problem – or at least having the balls to try – I turned what to me was a stale atmosphere into a slightly more enjoyable one for a few of us.

  66. Pierce October 30, 2012 at 2:44 am

    Excellent post.

    The truth is….

    American women are morons.

    They are peons for the corporate bankers to get rich off of.

    As they get more and more penis, they get uglier and fatter!!! lol

    Has anyone been to the “feminine needs” section in your neighborhood supermarket???

    It’s full of vaginal itching creams because these sluts are so full of poision it’s disgusting.


    Go abroad. Brazil, Thailand, France, Senegal, South Africa.

    A women’s equalizer is a smartphone…

    A man’s equalizer is INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL 🙂

    We were never designed to be DOMESTICATED….

    We are ancient hunters/gathers…always moving about in search of our latest kill or hot morena in a bikini lol


    Her fertility rates are plummeting from all the BPA exposure and she is no longer reproducing….

    Focus on your HEALTH and FINANCES….

    Think sexy latina instead of fat gringa.

    – Pierce

  67. American Man October 30, 2012 at 4:11 am

    Like your comment. You forgot the best places though….EE and Russia.

  68. Marcellus October 30, 2012 at 4:18 am

    I think this is true for the USA but in W-europe it’s bit different. Chicks are on facebook, but if you look at the likes you’ll find that they are from their girlfriends.
    In clubs you see big social circles (often couples) sitting together where the girls are dancing. There are no single girls.
    My conclusion is that american chicks are far more attentionwhores. European chicks just find a guy because they would be “weird” otherwise, and stay with him. American girls need ego; european girls need “to fit in”.

  69. the passenger October 30, 2012 at 5:26 am

    #66 and #70 – totally agree.
    100% correct- they have iphones and dozens of beta orbiters, we have cheap flights, travel and sexy girls all over the world.

    I’d add that social networking culture also makes males less attractive. Many of them sit much of the day glued to the screens. Someone has to send all these online approaches, perhaps 50 a day. Its bad bad BAD for your health , esp. men health to spend your time sitting and typing. Apple keyboard or iphone… made from aluminum. Mouse made from plastic. Toxic chemicals ingested 10 hrs/day.

    Someday western males will dream of living in a muslim culture. When women are kept in the dark, tech-wise, work-wise.

    The best strategy: make online income based on facebook attention whores/dating and travel to cheap countries with feminine pussies.

  70. Jay October 30, 2012 at 5:31 am

    Good post dude
    @Bogart- excellent comments as well.

    Yet I think the emphasis on their use of smart phones and social media- and the rush they get from it- has been overestimated.

    It is essentially vacuous, and therefore I don’t believe that women who insist upon using their technology in the presence of a suitor have been sold on the value of that suitor. If you are an alpha male and are in the presence of a woman, my experience is that she will focus on the alpha. (Then again, I’m referring to women who have been fucked by alphas and can compare the rush of being fucked by an alpha to that of checking their facebook)

    Most of those who are glued to their technology (mentioned by Roosh) are most likely attention whores. And who cares about attention whores.

    Lastly, as most already know, most American women are rotten. So what’s the point of caring about what they do? Bogart was exactly right when he said that men are the problem because you go out and actively disrespect yourselves by giving attention to women like this.

    Why is this a problem? Because it only serves to reinforce their behavior. This means that if you live in America, you should be ignoring 98% of the women you come across. I currently live in China and turn my head anytime I’m in the vicinity of one of those androgynous Western she-males. This is not a joke. It would be better to jack off than to go out to an American bar and pump the egos of these things.

    So what can you do- if you’re in America you can take the advice of @32 Bogart. Or you can take the advice of @70 Pierce and do as Roosh, myself, and many others have done- get out into the world.

  71. Anonymous October 30, 2012 at 6:42 am

    @ 68

    I don’t get why guys are still going after the LTR either. LTR/Marriage is done for and will soon be a novelty. Why waste time going to another country when their women will be the same as American women in 5 years? Any time you spent trying to work on an international girl will be wasted when she falls victim to american influence. It’s inevitable people, embrace it and use it to your advantage.

  72. OlioOx October 30, 2012 at 9:41 am

    Top-notch post Roosh. Impossible to seriously argue with this.

  73. The broader picture October 30, 2012 at 10:10 am

    Let’s talk about another aspect of the always-connected world: distractedness. What’s your view of the world in which everyone is always looking at a smartphone to see what’s just come in. Does this matter?

    “Yes, it’s very frustrating when people are engaged elsewhere when they’re actually supposed to be pretending like they’re in some social environment. The truth is they actually are, it’s just a virtual social environment, not the physical one. But I’d just as soon they not be there physically, because it’s bothersome to have them distracted. They’re partially there and partially not, so some part of me feels I have to engage with them in some more-interesting ways. Now, that might just be because I’m 66 years old.” (interview with david allen)

  74. Anonymous October 30, 2012 at 10:39 am

    Definitely one of the most insightful and globally useful Roosh posts yet.
    In SE Asia, a girl with a smartphone in a daygame situation is 95% of the time the equivalent of an American JAP or Indian engineering/medical student, i.e. a waste of time.

  75. dirvanobbsan October 30, 2012 at 11:11 am

    This article has to be changed to,
    “Attractive women who own Smartphones lose the ability to love”

  76. Persimmon Cinnamon October 30, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    so freaking stupid & absolutely NOT TRUE, Obviously written by a man.

  77. Steve October 30, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    @ 79 dirvanobbsan
    who said:
    This article has to be changed to,
    “Attractive women who own Smartphones lose the ability to love”

    True. So true. Though I strongly suspect that the fat chycks still get offers from really desperate men, who are so hard up they are one step away from sticking their cocks in a farm animal or a ham sandwich. These poor bastards will use the technology to try to get anything, even if its a sack of pig vomit.

    In the final analysis, women have never loved men, ever. They only like what we can do for them. Esther Vilar stated this in her book “The Manipulated Man” many years ago, in 1971. The internet and smartphones (which essentially is the same because all the communication technologes work together) simply make it more obvious what women think of men.

    The truth is never pretty, but after you accept it, it is not ugly either.

  78. Anonymous October 30, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    This post is some real talk right here. 100% truth.

  79. Soon to be single October 30, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    This is scary accurate Roosh. I finally stopped speaking to my soon-to-be ex-wife because of how much time she spent on her iPhone blantantly ignoring me with open derision, sneering et al. You are also spot on with the FB bit: she changed her status to “single” 4 months after she got the iPhone and used it to flirt with Brazilian dudes on the sly and make up BS lies about me.

    This post sang to me (unfortunately). And unfortunately for her, our final green card marriage interview was scheduled a few months away.

  80. shiva1008 October 30, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    glad that dudes are starting to get the picture. You could look at it as two stages in the evolution of game (in it’s current popularized form).

    Mystery gave us the tools and basic understanding of female psychology, but he didn’t have the full picture. Now the Roissy/Roosh generation are completing the picture on the macro level of male/female relations. And we are coming to maturity and hopefully coming together as a force that can make informed decisions to impact the sexual marketplace to our advantage. In addition to looking out for ourselves, we need to also start thinking about the impact of our choices on aggregate.

  81. DarkTriad October 30, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    Essentially, dating a hot girl with a smartphone can be like a woman dating a guy who is continually followed around by a platoon of prostitutes blowing him on demand. It’s not that a fulfilling relationship can’t happen, but it’s a lot less likely.

  82. Drew October 30, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    This is deep.

  83. GuessHandsOn October 30, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Haha… Thanks for the response, Roosh.

    And no, I’m not a feminist. I’m actually a pretty faithful reader of your blog.

    Regarding girls’ getting approached a lot…

    Look, I’ll quote form your Bang book blurb:

    “[h]ow many women do you think I had to talk to and get rejected by? 300? 400? 700? I gotta be around the thousand mark by now. In terms of all men in the world, I’m in the top 1% of being rejected by the most women. But in terms of how many women I’ve banged, I’m probably in the top 1% as well.”

    Of course, if you teach men to approach in great numbers, I don’t think you should complain when girls get hit on by a lot of guys. I mean that’s just math. I mean that’s what you tell us to do.

  84. Jes October 30, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    You know, this is true for a girl or woman who’s never taught to think for herself and be respectful of herself in her upbringing and then being lazy when mature enough to make the changes on her own to her own behavior. My gf is an owner of an ipod and a blackberry which as you know is the perfect cheating tool, with statuses and all. But she was raised right and also makes the choice to not pay attention to those showers of cocks trying to get at her. She sees right through that and therefore her reputation alone shows any sleeve bag guy he’s got no chance at a quick Fuck. This affects the stupid and weak minded.

  85. Anonymous October 31, 2012 at 12:59 am

    One of your best pieces ever!

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  87. Mike T. October 31, 2012 at 1:11 am

    @Jes 88:
    Your girl is different, hey? Just maybe she is right now. Or maybe her perfect 10 hasn’t shown up yet, or you are bringing the value to her right now so it’s all good.
    But the constant stream of cocks will continue, and she knows it’s always there. A weak moment, the right guy paying attention (if she’s an 8, the chance for least minor celeb cock will present) and cheating is so easy logistically.
    Your girl might be great, but the odds are against her and you in this culture.

  88. 3rd Millenium Men October 31, 2012 at 8:10 am

    Going to put this in a Best of the Manosphere post soon. Great stuff Roosh.

  89. Master Orin October 31, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    I found all of this out years ago when I lost my wife to the smartphone. Personally, I have always been an alpha male enthusiast… asserting myself to rise above all that surround me in an effictive and largely noticeable manner to be able to be the guy who can approach and charm the 9’s and 10’s and be the envy of beta’s and players who only have a sex life because they’ll fuck anything that walks and still have to put in the hours and hours of social networking extravaganza.

    When I met my ex-wife, she was on the low end of the social networking for sex game. Fb and purerave, mostly for friends, severely limited internet connection, very low level of beta orbiters, and non txtmessaging phone. We fell in love and were married a year later. Being an assertive and successful alpha male, I was able to provide for her, which meant nonsmartphone cell phone family plan, computer, internet, and vehicle transportation.

    In the 2 and a half years we were married, we had 2 children, and she went from being a 9 to being a 6.5, after a drinking problem when her father passed away and not being able to lose the baby weight. However, with a good social life and lots of friends, her social networking dynamics increased 1000 fold. By the first year of our marriage, she was txting and on fb so much that she spent zero time with me, and any time she did spend with me I was completely ignored to the point I had to ask her to stop using it around me, and then it became her having a completely different life when I was gone to work and such to the point that I became the guy who makes her “miss out” on everything.

    By the second year, I lost my phone service and family plan because she used her not unlimited phone so much that she ran the bill up to over $1,200. This was when she got started on her mothers plan and was given a smartphone with unlimited usage while I was paying out the ass for minutes on a track phone just to get to work. After that, she lost all interst in spending time with her husband that worshipped the ground she walked on because of all of the attention she got from beta orbiters, and finally picked a fight that sent her to her moms for a few days to “figure out a solution to work out our problems”. What actually happened is she was tired of me making her “miss out” and the first day she was gone she ended up in another mans bed, and of coarse, it was a friend of mine.

    I still loved her and wanted to work things out, but when it became clear that she was going to continue to use facebook and txting to fuck every one of my friends, (over 50, and those are only the ones I know of), it became clear that not only was my life and marriage over, but that my sweet conservative wife had in fact became the worst whore of all time.

    When it comes to a single womans sex life (in her 20’s) and the social networking availability she has, there is no lie that won’t be told and no distance no matter how far she won’t stoop to get EVERYTHING she wants and not appear as a whore. They keep it to themselves because if anyone knew the things she has said and done on those sites txting, no one would ever talk to or touch herEVER again. Because of this experience of mine, I haven’t touched a girl in 7 years, (ok, I tried once, and it didn’t really count, but for all of u out there who are skeptical over scandalism, I’ll go ahead and post that anyways), I developed an anti-social personality, and became a hard core drug user… and its not just over the girl,its over her usage of the internet.

    I think its fucked up how no other guy can compete with me, but I can’t compete with the internet, and the number one rule about fighting, or competition… never fight unless you’re going to win. The problem here, if anything, is far worse than we think it is, and not that “its not as bas as we think it is”. I just met a girl a week ago, and my doubts and subconscious thoughts are already going down the dark tunnel, and she just friended me today on fb… wish me luck anyways, God knows Ill need it.

  90. Cad and Bounder October 31, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    In order to avoid the seductive trap of falling into a misogynistic line of thinking about this stuff consider thinking about the following line of thinking.


    1. Consider the famous jam experiment where consumers always end up consuming more jam because they are faced with less choice.

    2. Consider that when faced with the option of less choice or more choice, people will invariably chose the latter.

    Now think about the corollary here. People want more choice but that choice means they end up getting less of the product. It is not ACTUALLY in their interests to have more choice.

    It’s the same thing with women and FB, twitter, whatsapp, viber etc. They get the perception of an abundance of choice but it’s killing their ability to make a decision.

    Ten years ago her ‘perception’ of choice was based around some guy she knew socially and liked but always had a gf, a few guys she met at parties who took her number but didn’t call much, someone at work, or a few friends of friends. A new guy comes along. She gives it a chance.

    Now a new guy comes along and he is competing with every guy she ever met and added on FB, whatsapp etc etc

    It’s all about the asymmetry of availability. They have more ‘options’ than us. And partly for this reason our thinking is different. Men are practical we deal in the real pragmatic world. Most women dont make hard decisions (anyone who disagrees should go and talk to a political pollster) they rarely possess the hard wired skills to make sense of the mass of data and ‘options’ that are increasingly coming their way through social media.

    They all think they are celebrities just because a collection of saps ‘like’ their latest FB pic. The sad thing is that none of it is helping them form relationships or make a fucking choice or even a FUCKING choice.

  91. Bogart October 31, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    Outstanding comments here. Makes me proud to be in such company.

    Guys don’t forget though, if it makes a woman look like a distracted princess when she uses her smart phone in public, what do you think it makes YOU look like? A nerdy pussy. That’s what. Be a real man and put that goddamned toy away unless you need to call up some pussy or make a business deal.

    Look I’m no luddite, I had the iphone in the first few months of its original release and am dialed in to the social networks. But the “smart” phone phenomenon has been bothering me for a very long time, and guys are frequently to blame as well.

    In San Francisco, it’s common to see geeky metrosexual pussboys texting or staring into their little phones EVERYWHERE. At concerts, walking across the street in oncoming traffic, walking down a crowded sidewalk full of people. In a bar full of hot women (well decent women – there are few hot ones in SF).

    Several times a day I’m tempted to grab someone’s phone from their ear and throw it across the street. It makes people behave in such idiotic and annoying ways. Whenever someone gets a little nervous, they whip out their phone and pretend to be engrossed, rather than face their discomfort socially.

    Let’s face it – smart phones are a scourge on society, no matter who’s hands they are in. A woman on a smart phone looks like a bitch. A man on a smart phone REALLY looks like a bitch.

  92. Armenian October 31, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    Since I read this post a few days ago, I have increasingly noticed chicks with phone addiction. I am just waiting to see one run into a tree, a street light or a homeless bum while she texts and walk.
    Just today at the bodypump class, two chicks next to me brought their smartphones. Really? You can’t leave that shit behind for an hour?

  93. Mr. Pointyface November 1, 2012 at 2:10 am

    94 Master Orin
    October 31st, 2012 @ 12:50 pm

    Man I’m sorry to hear your wife split. But saying she drove you to drug use is just wrong. You could have gotten help, you didn’t have to do drugs if you couldn’t make it on your own.

    I know it’s easy to say when she’s getting your money and running around, but you have to think of yourself.

  94. Jake November 1, 2012 at 3:52 am

    Top ten worthy post.

    Funny, since I’ve been rolling around third world shitholes lately. And exactly, whenever I see one of those old button phones (which is usually), I know things are looking good.

    On the flip side, no point lamenting it. Adopting a marketing strategy approach is key. Weekly mass picture text to stay on the radar, a ‘contact group plan’. Properly vetted, you always stay properly stocked with options.

    Love is a chemical high. So, I guess we might not get to be heroin-like addicts in the smartphone future. No huge loss.

    Keep it up.

  95. Mr. Magic November 1, 2012 at 3:58 am

    @94 Master Orin:

    Orin move on and I will tell you something I will be dammed if I let any woman or anyone for that matter drive me to drugs grow some balls. she is cheating left you etc, its her lost get yourself together emotionally and move on I have gone through a thoushand times worse crap and I never used that as in excuse to do drugs or any other substance be strong be a dam man grow big balls big boy.

  96. G Dogg November 1, 2012 at 1:56 pm


    Just have a wank and a Lemsip, maybe a shower, and do your best to get over the fact that women rightly find you unpleasant and boorish. Try going gay (you DO think that men ROCK right?) or just stick to the nice, subservient ladies in the Internet porn that you obviously use for relationship counselling.

  97. A girl November 2, 2012 at 2:12 am

    The funny thing is for guys do the same they use it for the same reason not one guy do I see with a Nokia I seen guys use smartphones for the same reason girls here u say do it gives guy reason to cheat if their other half isn’t willing to give them complete attention and so happens she becomes the one competing

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  99. Anonymous November 2, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    @102: Uhh, what?

  100. Ninjizm November 2, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    A very evil genius bitch once told me 95 percent of woman only want a man for his money or penis always searching for the upgrade at all times.the other 5 percent are lesbians ! contrary to what most people think about female mind sets .let the facade fool you to the detriment to your long term health wealth and prosperity.

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  102. Brian Mark November 5, 2012 at 6:45 am

    OK, Roosh,
    I give you a 10 out of 10 on this one! I agree with you 100%. I lost my long term girlfriend to the Internet. I see this all over the place, smart phones dominates these women’s lives. They are addicted to their smartphones. It is a sad day for Western males. I’ve already started about 3 articles about this subject that has been on my mind for quite some time, so I need to get them out on my blog. Again, congratulations for a great article, I agree with you 100%. This phenomenon is so BIG and so BAD!!!!

  103. NG85 November 8, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    I’ve been saying this for a few months now. I noticed that younger women have been much harder to deal with in the past year or 2. I couldn’t put my finger on it, until I realized that in that time smart phones became the most popular type of phone. Women get validation and an ego inflation for every like, comment, message, text, IM, etc. they get. If they have a device that gives them access to all this stuff 24/7, they can get their ego boost any time, anywhere.

    The first place I noticed this was on dating sites. I’ve been on and off OKCupid for 4 years. When I first signed up, I met 3 girls in a month – 1 girl was a dud, 1 I saw twice, and the last I ended up seeing for 2 years. They were also really cute. When that relationship ended 2 years later, I had a much harder time meeting girls on OKC. Most of them were cunty, and I had to put in more work to get email responses back. I’ve been on about 10 dates through OKC in that time, and each girl got worse and worse. The first after my break-up was about an 8. The penultimate was maybe a 5 on a good day, with a pudgy body, saggy tits, and enough mental issues to keep big pharma afloat. Even this pig at the end thought she was God’s gift to the world. Only one of these girls turned into a regular thing, the rest all flaked after our first dates.

    My last OKC date was with a Turkish girl who was really cute, but she was addicted to her phone. At one point I even caught her checking her OKCupid messages while I was sitting there in front of her. The lack of respect these girls have is amazing. I never saw her after that.

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  107. Playboy_Extraordinare January 8, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    First off! Roosh this in excellent posting!

    I’ve been “James Bonding” women since I started puberty and noticed how the game has changed allot over the years especially when it comes to the evolution of cellular phones! I remember back in Tampa when I was on a date with this broad named Jessica and at dinner, she continually kept responding to text messages with her Sidekick even after I told her to stop. With her phone down she just keep looking down at her it itching to pick it up as she continually got more texts. It got to a point when I said, “Go ahead and answer your messages” since she was clearly into her phone and not into me.

    After ordering and drinking a $200 bottle of wine and some great food, I left her ass with the tab and no ride back home. DEUCES! I wish I could’ve seen her face when the bill came and when I never returned her messages. I know it was PRICELESS!

    Damn good post Roosh!

  108. Kairu January 27, 2013 at 8:57 pm

    Again, Roosh hits the nail on the head.

    I think men might have some benefit in this. Instead of paying for her to have a good time, we just pay the unlimited plan. Our investments to have sex will be no more than the lifting of a finger. Women just can’t devalue themselves enough can they?

    1. hkh April 23, 2014 at 1:36 am

      I concur. I have puaed much more successfully with texting. Most girls are self-indulgent and delusional. Vast majority burn out. With texting, you can contact multiple girls at the same time. I still would rather not text, but girls were pretty much off the whole telephone thing anyway by the early 00s.

      America is a very anti-male dynamic in all facets. It would be intersting to see how social media//texting has changed normal, non-Anglo countries.

  109. Spaniard February 8, 2013 at 12:47 am

    This is spot on, Roosh, and I quote, from a married woman who I slept with recently “Hey! You need to get a smartphone so we can keep this up!” So, the deal is, with a dumb phone like mine (I like to keep things simple), there’s a text record of EVERYTHING, which will get cheating wives caught. Smartphones, on the other hand, allow wives/girlfriends to create secret email accounts by which to communicate with other guys (like me) and have affairs. You hit the nail on the head, Roosh.

  110. Frank N March 1, 2013 at 12:09 am

    Whats even more pathetic is your devolved human nature bowing before “the pussy”… as if a momentary pleasure of sexual gratification is the epitome of what life is alll about. Since any sense of morality or thoughts of things evolving beyond merely the “Flesh”… you will sow your own roots of condemnation upon yourself and your soul and deserve the fate you earn.

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  113. Disappointed Man March 17, 2013 at 3:44 am

    RUBBISH!! What a sexist piece written by a man! You say men want serious relationships, yet you sleep with women and forget about the other ones you dragged to bed with you before? A man-whore with no morals is what you are. Sex is the only thing on your mind and that’s exactly what the point of your whole article was about. The penis for you is like your brain, you’re letting your penis take control of your body…SHOW SOME OPEN-MINDESS MAN!! -_-

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  118. Jason Marcel May 26, 2013 at 11:44 pm

    You have to turn it around into something productive, Roosh. Make it work for you.

    I believe that women are now the men, and men are the women.

    What that means for us guys now is, hang back and don’t chase. In fact, hang back and ignore. Don’t let women catch you checking them out. Be aloof.

    I find it freeing. I’m funny, irreverent, elusive, scathing, witty. Whatever I want to be.

    The stupid penises are constantly giving them attention. But they only want their attention. They don’t actually want those penises. They want the penises they can’t have! They want the elusive penises! The ones that don’t seem to be paying attention to them!

    I find it really works, and then you get them to chase you, to set up the plans, whatever.

    1. Scott Gurstein January 26, 2014 at 3:20 am

      I wish that did work, Jason. It does not. I ignore them; they ignore me. And we all go out separate ways. Every time.

      1. dheeraj June 8, 2015 at 3:16 am

        Being attractive is a must.
        Demonstrate all attractive qualities and then play aloof.
        Playing aloof without showing any alpha-attractive qualities is a recipe for disaster.

      2. Scott June 8, 2015 at 11:55 am

        That’s accurate, but one cannot demonstrate qualities one does not have in the first place. I have no alpha-attractive qualities. That’s why I never had much of a dating life, and ended up alone. That simple. Nature’s plan. Not mine.

      3. dheeraj June 8, 2015 at 1:59 pm

        then develop them mates….nobody has it by birth.we all had to develop it.
        took me around 5 years to get my body language fixed. Now I am able to get women attracted purely via high status body language and a few other tricks.

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  120. Remo August 1, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    Those big solar flare EMP’s can’t come soon enough…

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  122. Anonymous August 12, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    A completely slanted and misogynist perspective. Clearly you have dealt with some shitty women.

    If a woman sucks, she sucks, regardless of her phone, or access to the internet, etc. Doesn’t matter how many men are attracted to a woman if she is in love with someone; same goes for men. When you’re committed, you’re committed, and when you’re not you’re not. Whether that manifests through some shady texts or some shady personal interactions… it’s bound to happen.

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  124. My Oubliette September 19, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    If this article is correct, I must be doing the whole “iPhone” thing completely wrong. The people who text me are not “penises”, they are my close girlfriends. I make it a point to shut down any “penis” that texts me, messages me via Facebook, etc. And I still have the ability to love, despite owning a smartphone. And I don’t think that I’m an anomaly.

  125. Lisa November 30, 2013 at 10:19 am

    You make a point but it is far from balanced. Young men today are totally warped. They’ve been raised on air-brushed models and impossible looking celebrities when in the past their only likely glimpse at female flesh was their mum or sisters. If this doesn’t create feelings of entitlement I don’t know what does! Women today are plugged into their phones too much and it does create an enormous barrier within a relationship just as the family is destroyed by children watching endless hours of television or the husband mindlessly gaming (as in computer games) his life away. We’re all plugged in and turned off.

    We had family come and stay for Christmas and I kid you not they spent the entire time with their noses in various devices. Society is in the death throws and we are demonstrably on the way out. There are a few small pockets of resistance where people are CHOOSING a life that is good and noble but they’re hard to find.

  126. Richard Roma December 20, 2013 at 8:49 pm

    I recently dated a woman who didn’t own a smartphone. She was a bookworm, frugal, no tatts, few lovers, etc like you said above. In fact, most of what you say is true, but there are other possible darksides that you didn’t mention (possibly because you never continued the relationship past the ‘honeymoon’ period) – she had the attendant problems of an undersocialized person instead of an oversocialized one (OCD, naggy and the emotional maturity of a 14 year old).

    Ultimately she was better than the fragmented attention span having smartphone addict, but the cons were just too much to deal with. It’s a nice article, but I wouldn’t assume that because someone avoids the plague of hyperconnected oversocialization, they won’t have other, equally serious problems.

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  128. plainscott January 26, 2014 at 3:12 am

    This article is VERY informative…and VERY distressing. The technology combined with my inability to ignite attraction in the women I find attractive effectively deals a DEATH BLOW to what little hope I had of meeting a romantic partner, having a sex life, falling in love, or having someone in love with me. There is TRULY less reason now to live than ever before. 🙁

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  130. hllknl April 23, 2014 at 12:26 am

    I had a friend measure this in 2005, before facebook/twitter nonsense. He said, by posting a hot chick photo on a prominent dating website in a mid-tier city, 76 mails the first day, 20 mails thereafter, but dropping to a couple a day subsequent weeks.
    Most of the mails were low quality, often just a couple of sentences. Basically, no man can extend himself to send a quality, well-written message to every woman out there. The human component is the bottleneck. Hence, I don’t think Roosh’s premise is as devastating as intimated. Still…I wonder what the hell women did with just email…an answering machine…a basic telephone? I don’t think we can answer these problems, because the dating/women availability was better in the 20th Century.

  131. Scott Spector May 17, 2014 at 10:01 am

    ROOSH FOR PRESIDENT!!!! HahahA “Change Gonna Cummmmmmmm”! Hahahaha😃😃😃😃😃😃

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  133. Hortensio deChipotle May 27, 2014 at 5:08 am

    LOL. You think women didn’t cheat before smartphones? You think Grandma “was absolutely not” cheating on grandpa? Come on, now. Men and women have been playing the idiot monogamy game and cheating on each other for as long as such relationships have existed.

  134. son of the skies May 28, 2014 at 6:37 am

    My grandmother was in fact an air hostess and met my grandfather on a flight. Once married however, she was no longer eligible to work as an air hostess. Perhaps there was some logic to that.

  135. ewqgwerg June 12, 2014 at 10:45 pm

    PROOF, all women are whores!

  136. Jonathan Roseland July 20, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    I’ve thought about developing an app to combat this that would crash the smart phones of those around you. If you were on a date with a girl and she kept checking her phone just run the app and it will shut her phone down. There’s a bunch of ways to do this… NFC, MMS message, battery control virus… Would you pay this?

  137. Leopard July 30, 2014 at 10:53 am


    When I have a girlfriend (and pause the game), the only texts I receive are from my girlfriend and 1 friend. That’s all. Nobody else contacts me.

    My phone only rings when I’m active in the game and I contact many girls.

  138. Name August 12, 2014 at 12:35 am

    I am really sad to say that this is one of the best things I’ve ever read online!

    I’ve been trying to put this down in words for a long long time mate! Excellent… and sad!

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  140. America Is Communist and Sucks August 30, 2014 at 8:42 am

    Pure cultural insight genius Roosh.

    People have got to realize the same sociopath elitists who reinforce public education, political correctness, spray us with chemtrails, also created all this smart phone and social media bs to watch, observe, and control everyone.

  141. Lyn September 28, 2014 at 10:56 am

    Logic flow problem here, I’m confused. You were the one bumping the women out of sight after humping another one afterward. How does this story prove your point about girls’ use of smart phones?

  142. Lyn September 28, 2014 at 11:02 am

    …Also interesting you mention longing for love and commitment from girls when your blog persona bashes these same things. So what, you want her to long for and be ready to offer something you despise, so you can turn her down? Or is it a jealous rant that now women have a more level playing field – choices – now, than we had before, thereby making it harder to get laid? Given this is a blog for horny guys, and well done! But…if you complain about a tool that makes it easier for you to get laid, or at least your gender in general, what exactly is the problem here? What do you have to offer a woman beyond getting laid, because you don’t want to commit anyway, as per later posts.

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  144. Maxx Wiskers December 15, 2014 at 11:54 am

    If a guy was obsessively watching porn on his iphone all day he
    has a problem.

    iphones have lead women down a self obsessed road of vice.
    Facebook is highly favored by women. The core activity on Facebook is
    envy, this vice is forbidden by the ten commandments. Social media
    along with main stream media amplifies women’s natural conformism.
    Women’s levels of hit and run interactions with guys via iphones
    would have only been experienced by prostitutes in the past, LTR’s are not possible by default. This leads to the vice of flakiness and passive aggressiveness. In the end this leads to disillusionment and the vice of laziness.

    These massive social changes are having consequences, China has passed the USA as #1 in GDP. Many are well aware the West is in decline and the great realignment will continue.

  145. Hater Number One January 26, 2015 at 3:37 am

    Wow. I can’t believe the number of ignorant people living under a rock who agreed with this mysoginistic post. I am a female who owns a smartphone, and I want everyone to know that I am capable of true love. But this post just makes me not want to live on this planet anymore.

    1. BJ April 19, 2015 at 9:25 pm

      You’re wrong. Put down the damn phone and talk to someone properly!

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  147. Ben Eszes February 13, 2015 at 12:06 pm

    Amazing post. This confirms my hatred for the smartphone. I absolutely refuse to get one, despite family and friends pressuring me to (“It makes everything so much easier!”). In my area, I cannot see a female by herself without also seeing her hold her smartphone.

    I always thought of it like this: when she has her smartphone with her and is using it while you converse, you are third-wheeling it. The smartphone has more priority than you do, so you will always receive the back end of the conversation.

    Just as pornography gives men unlimited sexual “partners,” social media gives women unlimited attention. They’re practically the same thing, but one is much more socially acceptable than the other.

    1. Westsider October 12, 2016 at 5:19 pm

      This is an important point.

      I first heard a Christian radio broadcast – bravely, I dare say considering how taboo it to talk about sex in the ecclesiastical world – bemoaning the detrimental impact of pornography on the sexual bond in a marriage, while driving through middle-of-nowhere AZ once.

      That planted a seed (NPI), though, and it does seem to have somewhat of a “desensitizing” effect – depending on how much you turn to it – on us men, as with the now-ubiquitous e-attention available to females.

  148. Livingdead Lucy March 27, 2015 at 7:07 am

    I deleted all my dating apps when I met my bf. I now mostly use my phone for watching youtube videos and talking to some online friends I have known for years and the 2 only real life friends I have.

    I think though this article has a point. Smartphones do give women options. However if I didn’t have options I would have stayed with my ex, who was a bum and a deadbeat. I am also a white woman and I really, really love asian men. Without the internet my options talking to chinese men would be very limited as they seldom approach white women in the UK and I am painfully shy myself. Until I got the internet, which was slightly later than most people, I pretty much just admired asian men from afar and dreamed about being with one.

    The internet has also really educated me on things. I think it depends how someone uses it, rather than the actual product itself. I think the misuse of the internet is more a reflection on humanity than it is on the actual product. I think many narcissistic people do use the internet to big themselves up. I don’t have a facebook account but I do see posers all the time on ask.fm.

  149. BJ April 19, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    Iphone addiction is a massive turn off for me.. Unfortunately, that means pretty much every girl on the planet aged up to 25. It’s fucking pathetic, all they do is post selfies, feminist talking points and mindless social justice bullshit and trawl for cock… and they can’t go to a social gathering without constantly pulling it out to check who liked their latest post.. Honestly, if I met a girl who was a 6, but she had never owned an Iphone, I’d bump her up to a 9.. seriously!

  150. Maria Torres Escalada April 20, 2015 at 12:28 pm

    Wow ok that may work for some ..but there are still women out there that want love want that attention from their man, crave for him to come home from work, want to go visit him at work to give him attention, who wants to take pictures of him and her and blast them all over social media…but they would rather go out with his buddies, or stay after work to drink with co workers to let his hair down with his buddies because he’s had a stressed out week or day…well what the freak am I here for the woman thinks? Why am I waiting here at home hair all did makeup on and dressed to kill for him if he would rather be there with all his friends..come home drunk and want me hrs later ..i done made your lunch this morning washed your clothes cleaned your house and here im waiting for your affection the love connection the one that shows me im his everything..if I was getting that this woman would care about the attention she get off social media…but because there are men out there like this there are woman out there posting pictures trying to get attention…lets see if im making myself clear if you men are giving the right attention to that woman she won’t care about all the likes she gets on a picture post she dont give a crap. And if she was a real woman then she also would put those in their place that are offering their cock. Or just plane delete them…because she does know what love and loyalty and trust is …thats a woman…now if your talking about girls that a different story…women want your love and affection kind of attention and respect girls want bad attention …the attention of lust where there is noooo connection..

    1. Westsider October 12, 2016 at 5:14 pm

      You seem to have the same things we are fighting for at heart, but the problem is that you (based on your picture) are an older Gen-X female, whereas the death of femininity that we are bemoaning here is largely a younger Gen-Xer into Gen-Y/millenial trend.

      Like you said, “women” vs “girls”.

  151. Mr. Thariki May 28, 2015 at 10:35 am

    I ended up here thinking that perhaps that I was among the more unlucky men to have a date, actually a birthday treat, with a woman who pretty much seemed to be less than attentive to me during the entire two hours or so. It turns out I am not. Yet this was not the first woman, nor the first time. A lot (if not all) of what has been posted in this article is true, and I feel that the most mature way to handle it (for me) is to leave any woman who is rude to you in this manner to her own devices. This entails:

    1. Let her know that her behaviour is unacceptable;
    2. Quietly cut down on communication
    3. Handle your business, be it work, school or whatever makes you tick.

    Any woman who doesn’t value you enough to pay attention to you during your encounters certainly isn’t worth your time.

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  155. Juan July 11, 2015 at 2:46 pm

    Now you´re competing with her Iphone and all the attention that she receives.
    I think it’s futile.

  156. jq747 October 8, 2015 at 4:30 pm

    Of course 3 years on, what are odds of finding a girl who still uses a shitty old Nokia.. Thanks, consumerism. But speaking of Farcebook, a quick look at any random woman’s profile is explanatory.. No girl I’ve met has less then 500 friends. Every time one of my female Facebook friends posts something, no matter how banal, instantly 40+ likes. And if she posts something even remotely suggestive, without fail, there will be replies from several thirsty simps who are far less subtle right back. No matter whether she’s single, or “sorta kinda married and stuff”. Oh, and none of these women are hotties by any stretch.

    Social media really has ruined women, by inflating their SMVs, not to mention their heads, way beyond what would have been possible before the invention of the modern attention whoring device.

    1. Westsider October 12, 2016 at 4:49 pm

      Cumulative with the similarly calamitous ego-inflation that grew out of women’s newfound ability to f*ck every alpha that came along, post-women’s lib and the newly widespread availability of birth control (not just contraception).

  157. tony November 22, 2015 at 12:16 pm

    I don’t bother with women anymore for that very reason. Im a very romantic guy and they’re always so cold and distant and all it does is make me feel like shit. Im a normal human being not a drone i need to be loved. I don’t know what happened in the last decade but people seem like they’ve became more cold and shallow. Like going from color tv back to black and white.

  158. Someone February 3, 2016 at 6:28 pm


    women are not capable of love because… men are always available?

    But men are capable of love because they CAN CHOOSE TO BE always available…?


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  160. Dougie Howser October 17, 2016 at 1:27 pm

    Love is fake and a myth. I do wonder if our pursuit of getting laid is not playing directly into the hands of women and their incredible inflating ego’s. Each time they turn a man down, whatever the reason, their sense of worth goes up. So by pursuing vagina, we are empowering them and lowering ourselves.

  161. Chowmain July 25, 2017 at 1:13 pm

    They walk with their snouts down on their phones…they miss all opportunities surrounding them…heck the perfect guy just walked by! Oh…you missed seeing him?…what a shame! Losers! And on they go thinking that life owes them some kind of reward….delusional at best!

  162. Steve Weiner September 16, 2018 at 2:32 pm

    6 years ago. This guy is way ahead of the game