You Become What You Fight

Once you declare an idea or person to be your enemy, you give them a room in your mind. Within that room you insert their history, strategies, tactics, strengths, and weaknesses. You dedicate more of your waking hours to understanding how to defeat them. As time passes, items from that room start to leak out into your being, until you look in the mirror and realize that you are not that different from your enemy.

At the height of my PUA days, I declared feminists as my enemy. They were degenerate, anti-family, and promiscuous. This was at the peak of when I embarked on behavior that was degenerate, anti-family, and promiscuous. My attacks against them were one way of relieving the guilt and discomfort of my own behavior, since most of the girls I slept with had to have feminist thoughts in their minds to allow me to gain easy sex. I was experiencing pleasurable orgasms with the enemy in the evening then writing about how bad they were the day after.

I went one level up. Who created feminism? Who pushes their ideas? The Jews. They were crafty, intelligent, persistent, and masters of propaganda. Their negative influence on Western civilization must be countered, I thought. I examined their tactics and mimicked some of them in my own informational outlet, Return Of Kings, which has Jew-pilled thousands of men. I started thinking how to be more effective with propaganda and create opposing narratives, until I realized that in order to counter the Jew, I had to become more like the Jew.

Recently, Trump supporters Jack Posobiec and Laura Loomer tried to shut down a New York play that attempted to normalize violence against the President.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a39JswIqrHc

If you mute the audio of the video, you may think Posobiec and Loomer are left-wing activists, since this is the same type of tactic that leftists have used for years. I don’t particularly mind their disruption of the play since it gives the left a taste of their own medicine, but it was inevitable that those on the right would copy the left, just like how you should now expect the left to copy the right’s use of effective memes. However righteous your movement, understand that you will think and become more like your enemy as you fight him.

Even battling against something clearly immoral like pedophilia forces you to get in the head of pedophiles. What triggers them to abuse children? What kind of abuse do they perform? How do they network with each other to carry about their abuse? You start to think like pedophiles with the intention of stopping them, until the only step remaining is to actually view child porn yourself like in the case of reporter Kurt Eichenwald, who established financial ties with a child porn producer to investigate him.

Declaring a man as your enemy is the start of an intimate relationship that stems from three possible motivations: (1) you want to be more like him by having his power or wealth, (2) you want to gain more of your own power by hurting or crushing him, or (3) you want to relieve your inner guilt from already being like him, like in my case with feminists. The enemy will be present every single day of your life as you study him, interact with him, and probe him for weaknesses that you can exploit. At the end of many years of battle with your enemy, do not be shocked when you look him deep in the eyes and see a reflection of yourself.

Defend yourself against those who wish you harm, but understand the cost in having enemies. They are merely a mirror into your own demons and inner conflicts. Find out why you hate something before you start attacking what you’ll become more like with every passing day.

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That’s exactly my theory with regard to Nelson Mandela: he spent so much time in jail studying white people in order to fight them that he ended up thinking like a white South-African.

Interestingly, that explains why South-African white people were fooled: they saw Mandela as the new normal, they didn’t think that this wouldn’t happen again, that next rulers would bring the African mindset to South Africa.

AJ
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Or he was just a low IQ black who was a convenient puppet of Jewish schemers.

Greboada
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Mandela? low IQ? Puppet of Jewish??

Dear God….

Robert Ridley
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I think the point he made in this article is that he was wrong when he wrote the article you linked to.

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Even dimbrr than we’re stating.

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How funny. A faceless internet troll, who probably can’t lead a horse through an open barn door calls a leader of a revolution a low IQ black puppet.

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How funny. A faceless internet troll, using retarded rhetoric, thinks that Mandela did more than ride a wave of global pop culture sentiment. If he had to fight the white power structure 30 years before, his legacy would be as significant as that of a swatted fly. Same troll also overlooks the fact that Mandela’s heirs have turned S Africa into an open sewer, because black IQ is <70.

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maybe,…..but it is their open sewer….

and any day they decide it will be “good bye whitey”.

Mandela wins. and he did it all with a smile. pretty smart if u ask me.

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You said it. They have created for themselves an open sewer. Limit of their capacities. Limit of Mandela’s capacities was playing the part Jews outlined for him. Act peaceful, smile a lot, Sambo.

If whites set their minds to it, it will be goodbye <70 IQs.

And if whites are eliminated, it will also be goodbye <70 IQs, because blacks are unable to extract resources from the Earth. Why starvation is epidemic throughout black Africa.

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starvation epidemic throught out Africa ???

hahahahahhahah

Blacks are homo sapiens itself. They have at least one million years of existence in that very same land mass dealing with every conceivable threat to life.

Their survival is never in doubt. They can adapt to any circumstance, any environment, even in the presence of disease, oppression, and poverty they still reproduce….easily.

They have existed, exist now, and will always exist.

whitey…..not so much. if whites put their mind to it….and they most certainly have…the smarts one have already figured out that the mission itself is suicidal. why ? whites are mere genetic subsets of the black superset.

White destiny is to be subsumed back into the black superset.

hence opening the flood gates to Europe.

btw, it will all go down easier if you simple stop trying to fight it.

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Read Malthus, imbecile. Black population, above hunter-gatherer level, relies *strictly* on white charity. Take away our ingenuity and gifts, and they starve back down to the amount of morons that matches whatever food they can personally chase down and pick from trees. S Africa’s black population grew to its present numbers *only* because whites provided intelligent farming, sanitation, etc.

Kisse Ellis
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Black existence: 300,000 – 1,000,000 years ….documented.

White existence: 8,000 years documented.

try again.

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I’m sorry for your impoverished intellect. You are a failed evolutionary line, as far as civiliizaiton is concerned. And the fables Jews fed you about being “the original humans” are now evaporating:

“Europe was the birthplace of mankind…” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/22/europe-birthplace-mankind-not-africa-scientists-find/

You can’t win. If whites go away, it’s back to the stone age for you. The more intelligent blacks know this very well. Your best bet is to accept your limitations and hope we continue to allow you to enjoy what we create.

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jajajajajaj right.

First of all “whites” are not from Europe. (sorry).

The first “Europeans” are Black Africans who crossed via Gibralter, (10-15miles), island hopped from North Africa ( much like they are doing today in rafts and small boats), and walked out of Africa and crossed the Hellespont.

Civilization itself is a Black invention (see Nile Valley).
“whites” received civilization last……and with that advantage magnificently expanded it. (credit must be given where due …on both sides)

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Okay. You’re retarded. Poverty of intellect is inversely proportional with inflation of ego which leads to all kinds of silly delusions. A plague of the Negro. Thanks for trying, anyway. Will now block.

Kisse Ellis
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stop projecting. This is exactly what Roosh is talking about.

accept the truth. and it shall set you free.

AJ
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Roosh is talking about the precise opposite of projecting, genius.

Kisse Ellis
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read the article again.

your racist hatred is a psychological projection of your own “inner conflict” – a technical term. (sorry to have speak above your level)

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He’s right. Roosh is talking about absorbing the mindset/habits of enemies. More or less the opposite of projecting.

Windmillsofhismind
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No.

Kisse Ellis is correct.

It’s a very simple example. imo.

Windmillsofhismind
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‘This is exactly what Roosh is talking about.’

….slow clapping from the back of the theatre…..

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They should put a sign up on comments sections that read: Don’t feed the trolls.

Aleksandra Zivkovic
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Jesus, man do you even know where Hellespont(Dardanelles) is? From Africa to Europe by crossing Hellespont? Hardly.Now you did get the Gibraltar right, at least in terms of geography.

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North Africans and Berbers have nothing to do with Bantus.

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That is probably the silliest comment ever or ROK.
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I would argue that white charity actually hurts black Africans in the long run. They become dependent on the white charity, and if whites were ever unable to keep providing it, most black Africans would starve to death simply because their population is too large to sustain themselves without white help.

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I would argue that white charity actually hurts black Africans in the long run. They become dependent on the white charity, and if whites were ever unable to keep providing it, most black Africans would starve to death simply because their population is too large to sustain themselves without white help.

Baby Shoes
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All the better.

StarD
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lolz we had farming technology since the days of the afrikaaners (dutch) arrival

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“Read Malthus, imbecile. Black population, above hunter-gatherer level, relies *strictly* on white charity.”

Black population was doing quite well before European invasions.

“Take away our ingenuity and gifts, and they starve back down to the amount of morons that matches whatever food they can personally chase down and pick from trees.”

It wasn’t white people’s gifts, but humanity’s gifts. And Africans had learned to farm and domesticate animals, so your description of how they provided sustenance for themselves is patently false.

“S Africa’s black population grew to its present numbers *only* because whites provided intelligent farming, sanitation, etc.”

Thanks, Richard Spencer.

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“S Africa’s black population grew to its present numbers *only* because whites provided intelligent farming, sanitation, etc.”

How can ANYONE be THAT ignorant?

He thinks we British fed and nurtured the Zulu warriors?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana

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That’s why we’re the fools and they’re just parasites.

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‘S Africa’s black population grew to its present numbers *only* because whites provided intelligent farming, sanitation, etc.’

No.

The Zulus had zero help from anybody.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana

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Not really. Europeans are a total different race for example then blacks. Europeans don’t come from Africa. European people have neanderthaler DNA.

A lot of characteristics that European men have is to survive in the cold and snow.

Check out ThuleanPerspective on YouTube if you want to know more about Europeans instead of spewing this bullshit.

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Probably Asians are closely related but not these chimps.

StarD
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false

Baby Shoes
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What would you know about being smart? Just look at your writing skills, they’re atrocious to say the least.

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His heirs cannot resist the totalitarian temptation. Even Mugabe started out well, putting down further attempts to destabilize the country, building schools and hospitals, and leaving white owned farms alone. But gaining all that success and power was not enough for him. A failure not of intelligence but of wisdom – a commodity in much shorter supply than brains.

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Points well made. Liberal elites just thrive on the whole “oppressed black man” narrative.

Baby Shoes
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Absolutely correct and country will never function unless Whites are the sole rulers.

Baby Shoes
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He wasn’t the leader he was just the Straw man.

Kisse Ellis
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no.

AJ
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Yes.

Kisse Ellis
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no.

AJ
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Yes indeed.

Kisse Ellis
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no indeed.

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most assuredly.

Kisse Ellis
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not assuredly….if so. that was a pretty impressive feet for a low IQ.

AJ
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What’s so is so. Accept your lot in life. You’ll be happier.

Kisse Ellis
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i accept my lot. I go out in the sun light and do not burn. I am perfectly evolved for life on Earth.

what about you ?

AJ
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My dog doesn’t get sunburns. Neither do zoo animals. I am not jealous.

Kisse Ellis
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oh yes you are jealous. Even your boy Trump is forced to “tan”. Cant face the horror of his melanin deficient state.

AJ
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And dogs and wild animals, you will note, cannot increase their populations beyond what is supported by their ability to catch or glean. They are perfectly evolved for life sans civilization.

Kisse Ellis
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talking about animals …. the dog was domesticated by Africans ( from the wild dog) , as well as the cat (from the wild cat , and donkey (from the wild ass).

makes you wonder if whites were some how “created” by blacks.

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Not to sound like I am defending Kisse Ellis (I’m not, he/she is retarded), I’m not sure that being able to increase population levels beyond what is naturally feasable without technology is universally a good thing. I’ve heard people say that if the power grid in America went down, 90% of the population (including white people) would be dead within a week. That means that 90% of people are dependent on the system to take care of them, and they would literally starve to death if it wasn’t for Daddy Government/big corporations.

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You can’t make a fool wearing a blindfold see the light of day . All world leaders accepted by the global media are jewish puppets. If someone is unable to realize this after facts and thorough discussion it is best to vacate conversing period.

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He wasn’t a black. Not in the sense we think. Probably low IQ and jewish manipulated though.

Baby Shoes
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Of course he’s Jew influenced but the silly cunts don’t understand it.

StarD
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true enough . . .

Antonio Mais
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Low IQ Black? Obviously your ignorant ass , doesn’t know shit about Mandela, you try letting someone stick your ass in prison for 27 years and see how you come out of it.

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Billion-plus Negroes in Africa. Not 1 successful nation. Starvation rampant. Never built a two story house on their own. Never figured out what the hell to use a wheel for. IQ estimate is <70. Everywhere blacks are concentrated the world over is a filthy slum. Even if Mandela was a talented leader, which is far-fetched, he had nobody to lead. Why South Africa is hellhole today.

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He was just a bantu tool for Joe Slovo and the other Jew organizations.

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Even if the average African IQ is lower than the Caucasoid, they will still have their talented tenth that can compete with other races. Mandela appears to have been such a one. Unfortunately for Africans in that now benighted land, there are few more like him. The future of that country is Mugabeville, and I am sorry for it. .

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white South Africans weren’t fooled. It was either Mandela and peace OR a Mugabe type and war and then maybe genocide.

Africans can suffer a lot, but when they get pissed watch out. Guns not necessary either: machetes, farm implements, and hand to hand combat do just fine.

Mandela was the best thing to ever happen to white South Africans.

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…with Botha a necessary side kick…

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Mandela isn’t black as in ‘just like one of them’ black. He’s part of the Mongolian diaspora, a dark Mongolian of the ‘Capoid’ branch. As the Ashkenazi were founded with Europe as their mission, ‘Capoids’ were similarly dispatched or more accurately ‘migrated’ out to infuse with and subvert the negroid lines. He’s not a ‘black Jew’. That would be like saying ‘messianic Buddhist’. The terms are post branch divisions. He no longer looks black in this backdrop:

http://p2.img.cctvpic.com/program/newsupdate/20131206/images/1386300108098_1386300108098_r.jpg

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Holy shit, he’s Asian!

Vegard Johansen
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The ANC proxy marxist rule is qualitatively very dirrerent fro the “Apartheid regime.” Chinese and/or Indians will probably end up dominating that society eventually. I think the native blacks will miss the Afrikaners!

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NO NO NO MY FRIEND NOOOO !!!! dont get involved in South African affairs Mandela sold everyone out including but not limited to south african whites (esp Afrikaaners)

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‘………he spent so much time in jail studying white people in order to fight them that he………….’

He was in solitary.
He only spoke to one guard.

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How’s the new South Africa working out for the Afrikaner?

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Some won’t be comfortable admitting it, but this is true.

On the other hand, if your enemy is winning, sometimes it’s because he’s doing something that’s effective, and you can benefit from learning his tactics. Naive 1950s style Americans can benefit from thinking a little more like their enemies. But there’s always the danger of going too far and becoming a mirror image of your enemy.

Personally, I was kind of ambivalent about the actual disruption of the play, I understand the principled arguments against it, but I also understand the desire to “fight dirty”, like leftists so often do.

But afterwords the play-disrupting faction proved unable to respond to criticism and started behaving oddly, going so far as to endorse hate speech as a concept at their recent rally. I don’t understand who that’s supposed to appeal to, when we’ve all seen how restrictions of that sort are being abused in the UK.

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(((Rebel medias))) stunt is straight out of the 48 laws of power. Something to the effect of “in order to get someone to stop doing something to you, do what they do to them”. I don’t have a strong opinion one way or the other about it.

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Our chief issue is the “Alinksy rule” whereby we (the royal we) are held to high standards while the left breaks all the rules and has no standards.

Thus you can have someone like crooked Hillary running for president but if a republican so much as forgets to dot an i it’s all over the news.

That we have dropped our standards, for example in that case where they wound up a Montana representative and got him to lash out but he still got elected, is a good thing. We have been too hamstrung too long by the lefts tactics.

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The point of my article is not questioning strategies, but understanding the individual cost of every soldier in fighting your enemy. As long as you accept the cost, all moves are fair play, since might will win in the end.

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I think it came across that way only because of your recent articles about introspection and personal spiritual health.

I think most of us realize the costs and are willing to accept what might come. What you don’t mention in your article is that despite losing some of your humanity in war, you might gain other, perhaps even more profound, virtues.

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There’s no place for virtues if you’ve lost your humanity.

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there’s no place for humanity if you cease to exist

Kisse Ellis
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the very desire to fight to exist will cause you not to exist.

Clark Kent
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Living one life as a lion is worth more than a thousand lifetimes living as a sheep.

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….if u say so….. I think I understand what your are saying.

The fight is essential to your identity. The need to have an enemy is critical to your identity. Fine.

but you sign your own death warrant.

as long as you are aware of that and choose that end, then it is ok.

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Having an enemy does not mean you are like him and does not mean you will lose.

Both the article and your thinking are bullshit.

The “three possible reasons” in the article are bullshit. You cannot choose one as an enemy just for a sense of justice and hatred of evil? Know? If you hate pedophiles its because youre a close pedophile?

Fucking bullshit. Roosh you’re autistic

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I think you’re missing the point.

Roosh never said or implied that if you hate pedophiles then you’re a “closet pedo.”

I think you’re confusing Roosh with a leftist.

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actually Rooh’s point is that most in fact do not know what the true costs are.

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The greatest strategy with leftists and SJW types I feel, is to create a vacuum in which they begin to turn on one another. That vacuum has not yet been created, and I suspect the only way to manage such a state, is mass ignoring of them.

Ignoring them, like a child throwing a fit, isn’t so easy when legislation is passed that does in fact begin to forcably affect your physical and financial freedom, and favor them, stripping your rights to give them rights. Their ability to affect your spiritual freedom, however, is up to you.

I’ve often said that to be truly good, you must know your full capacity for the worst evil, just not exercise it. When you stare into the darkness, you always take a piece of it with you. Don’t stare too long when there’s nothing more of value to learn.

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“but if a republican so much as forgets to dot an i it’s all over the news”

That’s part of the false dichotomy too…it fuels the controlled opposition (Beck, Limbaugh, et al)

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Great article, Roosh! Congrats!

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I’m confused…

If I fight for my right to party, then do I gain or lose this right?

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I was just thinking there are actually lots of guys reading this who think of that as an oldie. Maybe don’t even know it. Lol thanks a lot.

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Yeah, at work, a few years ago, a 24 year old cutie said “I like the oldies from the 80s”. I thought “80s songs are NOT oldies”. Since my mom’s oldies station now plays 80s music…I guess I have to accept reality…ha ha

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When I was in high school in 1987, I would call 50s music the oldies without a second thought, and everyone would agree. So calling 80s music the oldies now should make perfect sense, because it is exactly the same numerical situation. But it still seems very wrong. Maybe it is because we thought 50s people were quaint and unsophisticated, and feel the same way about 2017 society. In other words, 1987 was the peak of Western Civilization (in some ways, not all, but there is something to that in the soul).

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You cannot trust a Muslim that goes Jew bashing. What are the four cultural pillars of western civilization? Greek, Roman, Jewish and Christian. Who are the two wrecking balls of said pillars: The muzz and socialism.

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You obviously don’t understand that it was actually through Islam that Greek philosophy reached the West, at a time when Europe was in the dark ages. Islamic scholars, mostly in Persia and Spain, translated ancient Greek texts in an effort to bring the ‘intellectual’ studies to Islam. In so doing, they opened up a path for Europeans to later acquaint themselves such ideas. Though, ancient Greek philosophy was much less Greek than it was a product of knowledge exchange between the dominant Ionian, Egyptian, Persian and Babylonian cultures of the near east. Why don’t you read some books?

The Islamic Golden Age brought advances in the sciences, mathematics, astronomy and philosophy — it is a shame that most Muslims today are wahhabi savages.

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You obviously don’t understand that it was the Mohammedan who kept the knowledge of Greek philosophy held in Byzantium from reaching the West. Maybe you should read a book. Start with Pirenne.

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Muslims are innately savage because of their religion. From the subtle (Roosh) to the explicitly vile (ISIS). They would not be capable of a “golden age”. Completely anathema. The middle ages myth is important to Muslims otherwise the shambolic nature of their culture would have nowhere to hide. Look up the Sumerians and tell me how deviants like Muhammed and his followers could in any way take credit for their legacy?

Muslims want thanks for talents and traditions of trade, learning and social organization that had existed millennia before they ventured outside Arabia. Laughable.

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Thank you!

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The Jews have no links to socialism?

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Well Jews are smart and industrious, whether you love or loathe them. That means they are going to be in the upper echelons of bad things (socialism and Hollywood movies) and good things (hard science Nobel prizes and only democracy in the middle east).

As regards socialism, no Jew forced Stalin to be Stalin (Georgian Christian) Mao to be Mao or Pol Pot to be Pol Pot.

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“Well Jews are smart and industrious”

nonsense.

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Lol so blacks are smarter and more industrious than jews??

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You will be surprised. The Chineese Communist Party was set up and organised by two Bolshevik Jews from Russia.

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When there’s a limited amount of stuff to redistribute, and you don’t redistribute it by competing in industriousness, the only other forms of competition are swindle and murder. Hence the high rates of corruption and population death in communist regimes.

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no

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wrong.
Roosh is not a Muslim (i think)
and socialism is a 100% jewish invention

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“Jewish pillar” of Western Civilization? WTF you on about?
Next time you will say words like “Judeo-Christianity” LOL.

Fuck that!

There is no “Jewish pillar” of Western Civilization.
They were enemies of Western Civilization from day 1.

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If we have nothing to fight (feminism, SJW’s) or chase (hot women, money, travel destinations) then what do we do or have? Just a complacent life sitting at home after a day at a meaningless job. Reading blogs, watching Breaking Bad, and going on a date with washed up 6.5 sluts on Tinder.

You didn’t embrace degeneracy Roosh, you were just acting accordingly with a brave new world where 22-year-old men can’t expect to marry 18-year-old women anymore and expect lifelong companionship and sex for as long as you have desires to fulfill.

It was either banging and snapping pictures of South America, Eastern Europe, or Washington D.C. and you chose the former two correctly.

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good post Hubert, that first paragraph is depressing

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Read the article again. I didn’t say “Don’t fight.” Just understand the cost in fighting and where it stems from psychologically. The article I linked at the end, The Resistance Pyramid, states that self-defense is the most righteous reason to fight.

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You don’t necessarely become like your enemy if you fight the enemy.

You actually claimed that if you pick an enemy then YOU’VE GOT TO BE LIKE HIM somehow. You also list “three possible motivations” that don’t include a genuine will for justice and destruction of evil, like nobody in this world could have any of that.

Tell me if I got you wrong, if I got you right, I have already proved how that is bullshit. It sounds absurd because it’s based on logical fallacies and false assumptions. When you have an enemy it does not mean youre fighting yourself necessarely, people are separated and different. It’s normal to hate something that is completely foreign to you and your moral principles, when you have any. And that should be the only motivations for wanting to destroy pedophiles for example. And we need people who fight else we’re fucked. In fact, everyone should fight against them and those who don’t should be thrown away.

The conclusion and premise of the article are cheap pop psychology that leads to misconceptions or good ideas for dramas and horror movies. Reality is more complex than that.

Also the conclusion of your article for a sane mind IS that we shouldnt fight anyone.

As for self defense, that’s what an enemy is: someone who assaulted you first. If you assault first, then you have a problem.

Feminism assaulted first, and you defended yourself from it. It’s sane. Claming the reaction and stating it was all about yourself is insane. Always thought you were some kind of undercover psy-op. First of all you’re arab and talk about nationalism and white pride. Makes zero sense

These things makes it so I follow your youtube for one reason: comedy. And it’s a good thing, you really make me laugh. I’m not saying you’re stupid though and I am implying that you are right on many things. but some conclusions of yours are….wrong. Logic isn’t easy. People with a mathematical/technical mind usually fail at moral conclusions. As a biologist you have that kind of limited thinking

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We might sometimes be forced to adopt the strategies of an enemy though. Much like an arms race in any war, it does indeed force both sides into a brutality that maybe none expected.
But what is the alternative, to let the enemy win?

A huge dilemma I`ll admit, but I think you`ll have to fight by any means necessary, or pretty much go extinct.

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If so maybe we let the left win? They’ll become like us in the end. wink See the limitations in that thinking? Plus there’s often no hard line betweeen self defense and offensive action.

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Great post. It’s similar to the concept of projection.

For example, when a girl accuses you of cheating without evidence, she is likely cheating herself.

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exactly: like whenever whites try and accuse blacks of being violent and wanting to kill whites it is because reality is the complete opposite.

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I really hope you’re not trying to trigger race warfare in the comments. This always derails conversation. Something interesting was written, i hope we can focus on that.

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Agree. But it’s funny, though,you failed to reprimand this guy AJ for attempting the exact same thing earlier and with much more vitriol.

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Lol oh the idiocy. Per capita blacks are 5x more likely to kill someone than whites.

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If we want our posterity to live in peace and be free to pursue truth and beauty and love, our present circumstances dictate that we must suffer the pains of inflicting destruction on our enemies who don’t want us to have a posterity. We have to be the kind of people who would not be welcome in the world we would like to create. And we have to accept that fact. Kind of like what the Joker said about Batman, er something.

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wait so ROK formation was JQ related?

I thought it was a critique of the system in its entirety [which includes negative influence of cultural marxist thinkers and isr foreign policy and defamation strats via media mouthpieces, but not just limited to that]

Didn’t you yourself say your main issue was with those that were in the media and not all of them full stop?

I have zero dog in this fight [if anything i have an anti-isr bias lol] but i didn’t think Rok was just about that lol.

Alt R and Alt Lite/NR are arguing over which scapegoat they can blame personal failings on. Its the elites that are the issue but to limit that to one group seems incredibly reductive

And for the record i kinda hate the loomer hypocrite ‘hatespeech when we don’t like it’ types, i’m sure i’ll called out for being some hasbara prick [fuck them, exit M.E., dont fund anybody, work on domestic issues only, let countries be themselves, free movement of hot women and essential high level technical workers that can train domestic ones in areas they don’t have skills for, other than that closed immigration.] but this just surprised me a little.

it seems to be aimed at shoring up the Alt R readers rather than the pretty broad neomasculine umbrella that you indicated you had set up.

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Scapegoat is a Jewish concept.
You either do something bad or you don’t.
Jews do.
Jews just do not want to accept responsibility for what they did and do, hence their claim of being just “scapegoats”.
Scapegoats do not exist.

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Scapegoat is a human concept.
You either do something good or do something bad.
People do.
People just do not want to accept responsibility for what they did and do, hence their willingness to blame others for their own personal failures.
Scapegoats exist. You just proved it.

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On the second point about becoming what you fight that’s true.

I don’t know how the non-religious non-mystic/spiritual [but not faggy hippy spiritual, think monks] man goes through life. he fears life and he fears death.

stoicism is popular in the manosphere but religious mysticism less so. why?

look at your dad’s country iran and perhaps greatest ever persian poet, rumi. this guy was in love with G_d.

he made a book that not only spoke to that spiritual worship higher devotional love, but it also made every girl in the west [degenerate or not] vagina tingle when excerpts from that book are read.

That is a supernatural skill man.

It still makes women wet to this day. They see themselves in his poems.

They read it completely incorrectly and think its about a pair of lovers.

They melt into a ball of easy to fuck pussy just after a few stories.

If that’s not a glorious way of looking at life i don’t know what is.

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About Rumi’s poems: it’s Coleman Barks that the girlies love, not Rumi. Coleman Barks is a good poet in my opinion, but his poems are interpretations of other translations (Barks calls them “versions”, some Persian scholars call them “mutations”). As you mention, one chief difference is that in Rumi’s work, every mention of love is between a man and god, or a man and his male spiritual master (often in terms that sound pretty homo today, although that’s usually a literary turn on for chicks). Every mention of the beloved is referring to god, Rumi’s master Shams, or a male prophet. Hardly a woman to be seen …. except when he compares the female soul to a donkey that serves to carry the male soul as it directs them both towards god (bearing in mind that donkeys were valuable animals in those days, comparable to a car for the average guy).

So, in fairness, the chicks aren’t really reading Rumi incorrectly; they are reading Coleman Barks’s interpretation just fine.

More here:

Rumi for the New-Age Soul: Coleman Barks and the Problems of Popular Translations

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No. Rome didn’t become Carthage. African Muslims did not become Berbers. Greeks did not become Persian. Native Americans did not become White Protestants. People double down when they fight something. It strengthens their existing beliefs, how else would you have fanatics and zealots? When I “fought” against Atheism, I did not become an atheist, instead it strengthened my religious beliefs. Noble defeat is an antiquated idea, and if you don’t hit back with everything they are hitting you with, you are not even playing the game.

Lastly, has anyone noticed the Left become more like the Right in their decades of attacks?

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idiot.

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You are just talking about peoples who have been conquered. Yes, Rome conquered Carthage and took control of their land. Same with Muslims against the Berbers, same with the Greeks being conquered by the Macedonians (but not Persians). The Native Americans were also conquered and pushed out. Those who weren’t were assimilated, which is different because that happens after the fighting is over. The issue here is fighting makes you more like what you fight. The truth is it doesn’t. The opposite happens, you become strengthened in what you are. Why do you think nations like to provoke wars? Because it brings the nation together and strengthens it, like after 9/11. The micro and macro scale don’t matter.

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“Defend yourself against those who wish you harm, but understand the cost in having enemies.”

The important thing here is to prevent the battle against the enemy from becoming an insidious obsession. It is when we obsess about the enemy that we come to internalise the paranoia that is so often associated with enemy-images. I suppose I wouldn’t be presuming too much to say I’ve observed a tone of fatalism in Roosh’s recent writings. Interestingly, they’ve also been some of his best. I’m drawing comparisons here between the attention curve article and this one. The underlying message in both is simply: in confronting our worst fears, we’re fucked irrespective of what tactics we apply. If confronting our fears would end up making us fucked up, why should we even try?

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“Declaring a man as your enemy is the start of an intimate relationship that stems from three possible motivations: (1) you want to be more like him by having his power or wealth, (2) you want to gain more of your own power by hurting or crushing him, or (3) you want to relieve your inner guilt from already being like him, like in my case with feminists. The enemy will be present every single day of your life as you study him, interact with him, and probe him for weaknesses that you can exploit. At the end of many years of battle with your enemy, do not be shocked when you look him deep in the eyes and see a reflection of yourself.”

A perfect example of this is the rampant anti-black racism in America.

The more whites hold on to it, engage in it, perpetuate it, and continue the mistreatment of blacks, the more the culture itself becomes dominated by blacks. In effect, it is the hater who allow the object of the hate to enter his home and intimate areas.

to declare a man your enemy is to give him a 10 fold power over you. Jesus Christ got this one right ( and so do many of the Eastern religions)

look at Hitler and the Nazis for example. Jewish power has grown 10 fold or more based largely on the aftermath of the Nazis and their acts.

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But… what can be done?
Not having enemies?
There comes a time when defending oneself is insufficient.

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It’s not that you become what you fight, it’s that you fight what you hate in yourself portrayed in others.

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I think the problem is just what people consider “self defense”.

Is self defense keeping all the Muslims in the Middle East, or is it when they have already gradually infested your neighborhood (religious / racial freedom remember) using money they took from you through welfare and they cat call your girlfriend everyday until finally a gang of them breaks into your house one night to rape her and you have to shoot them.

Where is the line of self defense?

I think for most people it’s pretty restricted to limited things even though arguably preventing Muslims from coming to your country could be construed as “self defense” as well.

That’s why any action beyond fairly restrained things is frowned upon by most people and seen as aggression instead.

Even though arguably it’s self defense too, they just don’t make the connection maybe for example that if your neighbors vote for terrorists to live next door, they arguably are putting your life in danger, although if you tried to take any action beyond just defending yourself during a imminent attack, they would view you as being too overbearing and heavy handed.

So I guess the question is, what really even is self defense then?

Cause there seems to be alot of disagreement as to what that it is, and what the resulting proper actions are as a result.

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Self-defense starts at the border.
You stop your enemies at the border, that is your first line of self-defence.
Also, self-defense stops at the border as well. Meaning, you can not bomb the Middle-East and claim it as an act of self-defense.
And while we are at it, if you bomb them there, do not act surprised if they come here and commit terrorist acts.
Also, if you are at war, do not let the enemy come to your own country in big numbers, and if you let them, do not be surprised if your people try to fight them and get rid of them.
And if you stop/prohibit your own people to do just that, do not be surprised if they hang you as a traitor.
Life – and war – has common sense rules.

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This is why I’m a freedom fighter. grin

Joking aside, this is a very true point. Just look at the article here on communism. The US decided to fight commies and ended up implementing more of the communist planks than the USSR did. What has happened in my lifetime?

Fight communism -> Become a communist nation
Fight terrorism -> Become an authoritarian torturing terrorist nation
Women fighting the patriarchy -> Become masculine women
Fight loneliness with rampant ONS -> Become more lonely
Fight the Mideast -> Become more Muslim and import refugees
Fight Antisemitism -> Create more antisemites
Fight Racism -> Become an anti-white racist culture
Fight Poverty -> Become a poorer nation (everyone except top 0.1%)
Fight Ignorance -> Become a less educated, dumbed down population
Fight sexual bigotry (gay) -> Create guys like me who had no problems with gays but now see them as a huge source of degeneracy
Fight division -> Create a divided nation

It’s not a question of tactics, it’s also a question of results.

This is why I think neomasculinity is such a powerful movement. Instead of being anti-feminist, we are pro-patriarchy. Instead of fighting degenerates, we are standing up for the strongest and best in our society, promoting that strong men lead families, instead of fighting the idea that crazy harpies should.

Imagine if Trump stopped worrying about Muslims or Mexicans (A war on Muslims will lead more Muslims here as immigrants, and/or cause violent retribution by them, and net migration to Mexico is already negative), and instead implemented policies that were pro-me and you?

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I suggest you research Communist infiltration in the USA. It wasn’t fighting Communists that made us Communists, it was not killing the Communists among us that lead us to be as we are today.

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This is great. I plan on saving and using it when the situation dictates. I’ve thought of these things before but never in the detailed outline you have submitted. I will not claim this is my original work.

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Shame it doesn’t seem to apply to the Elites – they fight the peasants yet are immune to peasant infection

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`Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.`

Friedrich Nietzsche

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Garbage. Nietzsche is overrated. The ramblings of an omega male bitching that the world wasn’t fair and had a fever dream about being the complete opposite of himself, the ubermensch.

Nietzsche knew nothing about fighting monsters. He was too sick, weak, and living off of the generosity of others (like Engels and Marx) to ever bother facing his demons.

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Supposedly he contracted syphilis from a (possibly gay) prostitute in his student days, which caused him health problems throughout his life. (That`s very uncertain though.)
Do you have any credible sources for the claim that he received financial aid from Marx and Engels?

I do think his insight into the human condition was substantial.
He basically predicted that religion in the western world would peter out into nothing, and that it would lead to a society lacking clear values and cultural confidence. I can`t see many other`s who saw this so clearly.(maybe Spengler)

I strongly disagree on his ideas about relativism though. I think(like Democritus)that you can deduce you`re way to legitimate objective knowledge.

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No, like Engels and Marx, he lived off the generosity of others. Not that they supported him.

Him noticing a trend and seeing where the ideas of the day were going to lead does not grant any meaning to what he said.

Nietzsche’s claims should properly be heard and then challenged. The problem in philosophy circles is not a single professor I ever had ever challenged N’s claims. It’s because Nietzsche avoids making any. He just wrote neat-sounding and insightful-sounding soundbites that were easy for the simple minded to digest. Think 60 Minutes, low information garbage that sounds erudite.

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Ok. Duh:)

Well Nietzsche said he hated consistency, and was obviously a relativist,(which I don`t like)so that`s what you would expect.

I still think he had a great intuitive insight into the human condition though. He was more of an inspired thinker, who gives you small tid bits of insight, rather than neatly collected, organized ideas.

I think he was probably somewhat androgynous, and the female(weak) nature of his behaviour is off-putting to some.

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Go actually read a biography of his life. He was not androgynous. He asked out plenty of women and all of them turned him down because he was poor, ugly and of poor constitutuion in that order.

If you understand human hierarchy, you quickly see his musings are nothing more than a gamma or omega complaining that life is cruel and not fair. Did he get a number of things correct and nail it on the head? Yes, absolutely, but making articulate quips about life does not make a real philosopher. If he is a philosopher, then we need to induct Oscar Wilde as a philosopher too.

He’s over quoted and over revered because when it comes to philosophers, he’s the easiest to understand. Low hanging fruit for those below certain IQ barriers.

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Nietzsche didn`t exactly post short tid bits on twitter either!

It`s only because he said so many profound things that these short quotes have become a part of popular culture.
It`s like that with many other great thinkers as well.
For example Friedman and the `No free lunch` thing.

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I’ve read your work for years. ‘Bang’ is sitting on my living room table. This is probably the most profound thing you’ve written in a long time. Evolution is a funny thing.

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Could you talk about your diet? I get too tired and brainfod from eating my meals. I’d like some diet tips. I don’t drink coffee, also Im gluten, dairy, soy and junk free.

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“Declaring a man as your enemy is the start of an intimate relationship that stems from three possible motivations: (1) you want to be more like him by having his power or wealth, (2) you want to gain more of your own power by hurting or crushing him, or (3) you want to relieve your inner guilt from already being like him, like in my case with feminists.”

There are other reasons, such as 4) Loving what is good and hating what is evil or 5) seeking proper justice be done, etc.

That aside, adopting tactics and strategy does not require the adoption of the others ideals. If this were the case, then bombing Germany would have made the Allies Nazis, or bombing Japan would have made them Nihongese Imperialists.

The Nietzsche/Star Wars morality ethics crap needs to be dispensed with if we are to ever put the demonic Progressivism/Communism into the ground for good. Fighting monsters does not necessitate becoming one, as tactics do not equal intent and methods do not equal ends.

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Oh man, this is so good, I can’t believe it. Roosh is becoming a spiritual teacher. This is awesome!!!! I love you Roosh!!!!! <3

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Do you truly want peace? Then become one with your enemy. In this way you will defeat her, and she will defeat you, ending conflict. Male and female will join, and oneness will prevail. It ever prevails.

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Jesus solved this riddle ages ago.

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Roosh has a point here, even though it’s just tactics he’s talking about. He should be talking about goals. Now the leftist freaks have convinced themselves they’re fighting for world peace, and that we’re the white devils that are preventing world peace. That gives them the strength to do all their crazy shit. We sane people lack this clear mission objective. As long as their MO is stronger than ours, they will always win. Like Mike Tyson said: it’s not about the style, it’s about the intent behind the style (paraphrased) Perhaps Roosh can help us with a shared mission objective, which will strengthen our will and put steel in our spines. Then the tactics will take care of themselves.

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Mike Tyson: “it’s not the style that matters, it’s the morale behind the style that matters. It’s the intention and the fierceness and the malice and the intent to hurt, in this particular sport”. And Mike was taught this by the great Cus D’Amato. Now what if Cus had taught Mike: “umm listen Mike, you become what you fight” Mike would have never become the ferocious killer that he was. So dear Roosh, what exacly do you want? Do you want us to be pussies, to lie down like and to be conquered? Or do you want us to fight like lions? If it’s the latter, please cut the woo woo crap and grab the role of Cus D’Amato. If it’s the former, well no reason for me to visit your site ever again.

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Nope. You left out:
(4) you want to expose, in order to crush his Ideology (Islam) off the face of the Earth, so as to allow future gens to have a reasonable chance at freedom and peace.

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I can relate to this big time. I’ve been reading quite a lot about the Global Domination agenda / NWO conspiracy and all of the white-bashing all around me just cannot be unseen. It’s everywhere – I’m told I’m the rapist and the cause of all the worlds troubles, and are being socially engineered to exterminate my own European culture/race, the group most likely to take down the NWO.

It’s gotten to the point where I’m having second thoughts about having kids with my 1/2 Asian 1/2 White girl which is a ugly, ugly thought. Can someone please help me get this out of my head and tell me it’s a load of BS? Does 75% White = white?

Confused.

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A very good article indeed I had a manager who was a complete loathesome individual who was a control freak and had self esteem issues. He’d enjoy belittling people and thrived on manipulating people while portraying himself as a religious holy roller.

I’ve come to despise him and would have anxiety before going to work and I slipped into hating him and the worst part was that it consumed me to no end.

Now that he’s gone I’ve learned to not allow him any room in my mind and psyche because in the end it’ll just consume you to no end.

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Everything Roosh says makes sense to me…until he starts with the Antisemitic/conspiracy theory shit..I know most of it comes from that half Muslim part of him,but I still refuse to believe that 18 million people have the power to dominate the rest of his the world..It’s something only an ignorant inbred Muslim or dumb white hick would believe/spread.

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You don’t have to believe anyone, but you also shouldn’t close your eyes to the facts. And the facts are that this group of 18 million people is way overrepresented in the richest 1%, in media, in Hollywood, in education and in other places with lots of influence. And the facts are also that this group overwhelmingly believes in feminism, socialism/communism, globalism, open borders, limitless immigration, and manmade global warming. Now is this coincidence or is it a conspiracy? Who knows and who cares. The facts are what they are. You can close your eyes to them, but the facts still remain.

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in order to give one something to fight, the universe shall ensure that what is being fought continue to exist: Protest for peace means war must exist and to protest against war must also mean war must exist. This is universal law.

What if one did not protest or fight, but just went about putting into motion the act and action necessary to bring the desired change without ever protesting nor fighting? Would the one fighting the change then become the change?

And is this what is meant by “resistance is futile” ?

and based on the comments below, it appears people are engaged in battles with their own ignorance; thus their ignorance must remain to give them something with which to battle.

After all, it seems to be the way that the universe only manifest what people hold dearly in their heart.

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I’m afraid your solace of Christianity is another ideology born of Jews. No matter where you turn you will fall right in their lap 😂.

You better go back to your paganism and start worshipping a thousand little idol figurines.

On the contrary, wherever Torah observant Jews go that nation is blessed.

“I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you” Gen 12:3.

It is the rogue atheistic Jews that wreck the world with their own ideology. There are good Jews and bad Jews just like the rest of us good and bad goyim. And these rogue Jews bring a curse on the world and their own people when they follow not the Torah, just as it is written in Deuteronomy 28, the chapter of blessing and cursing.

Jewish banking and business has, rather than make the world worse as conspiracy theorists will have us believe, it has made our world better. It is actually because of the banking system and credit that has made the US and the rest of the Western world so prosperous and led to things like the technology boom. Wherever Torah observant Jews go they bless the nation and make it prosperous. Think of the wonders of Facebook and Tesla motors. And wherever anti-Semitism goes there is failure and poverty.

Take your pick of any nation in this world. Look at its stance towards Jews (and to bible Christianity) and you can easily predict whether it will be blessed or cursed.

Early Christianity was similar to Judaism before it was hijacked by pagan Rome. I think the true religion is a hybrid of Judaism and Christianity.

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That’s depressing. lol. But be careful of fighting monsters for you may become one yourself.. to paraphrase a famous quote…

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Tu quoque. What separates us from our enemies is desired end game. I have always acknowledged that I fight for myself. The struggle to survive and eliminate threats is the way of nature, denying it leads to death, which also benefits nature. Ruminating on this is pointless; one group must gain absolute power before the stranglehold of mortality may be broken.

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interesting; you can say the same thing about feminists who called men the enemy, and yet have now more or less assumed masculine values…they have become the thing they once detested.

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Riffing on Nietzsche are we? From his ‘Thus Spoke Zarathustra’:
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does
not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss
also looks into you.”

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Tis true for many. You become what you hate? I’d die trying to deny that.

Truth is, you’re right. I’ve experienced this very same thing. In my efforts to cajole wayward women to subscribe to traditional values, (Yes, you know me.) I only solidified my hatred towards most women. I sincerely despise most of them. Petty. Vindictive. Virulent. How can anyone, in particular a male, fight the inevitable onslaught of negative consequences from women who hold the key to physical human pleasure?

My suggestion? Vaseline, and a 4g+ internet connection which enables access to seduction that’s free, and unconditional.

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So how about that?

“Without enemy there can be no honor. Without outsiders, there can be no insiders. Without “them,” there can be no “us.” Without “us,” there can be no honor group, and therefore, no honor. The experience of being a man is something all men have in common, an experience shared and understood by friends and enemies alike, but the very nature of masculinity demands that we go to our corners and fight it out. This drive to conflict is the fate of men.

(…)

Without meaningful conflict of us vs them there can be no masculinity”

Jack Donovan Becoming The Barbarian