You Did This To Me

You made me learn game. You made it very clear that being nice, chivalrous, and patient was not the way to have sex with you. You let me know that being your friend, listening to your problems, and supporting you through hard times would only result in me getting to hear you fuck other guys. You pushed me to approach a million women to improve my ability to get laid.

You made me a selfish asshole. You rewarded me with sex when I treated you poorly. Your pussy got wetter the less I respected you. You made me go against my kind nature by being more cocky and arrogant.

You made me emotionally cold. You punished me any time I told you my feelings. You lost interest in me whenever I showed you basic human affection before you gave me affection first. You showed me that the less I concerned myself with your well-being, the more you did what I wanted.

You made me go for shallow one-night stands. You wouldn’t return my call even though we had what you admitted was a great conversation. You would flake and disappear for no obvious reason, making me feel like a piece of shit. You made me view sex as a numbers game where I treat you as nothing more than a “prospect” towards my sexual needs, an entry in my cell phone that represented possible sex, not a human being I wanted to build something with. You gave me no choice but to speed up all interactions at caveman speed so I could at least get a nut.

You made me leave America. Your entitled attitude become unbearable and your appearance disgusting. You have lost what it means to be a woman and what it takes to make a man happy. You have so little value to give yet you still expect Prince Charming to one day sweep you off your feet. You are a corrupted and damaged female, and have tried your damnedest to bring me down to your level.

The more game I learned and the more women I approached, the more sex I got. The more I worried about my needs and the more I treated you like crap, the more you went out of your way to please me. The colder I was to you, the more likely you’d want to be with me. The faster I went for sex, the less you flaked on me. The more time I spent away from America, the happier I became.

You made me hate feminism. You made me forget about marriage. You made me a voice for men who have gone through the same struggles that I have. The interactions I have with a woman tomorrow is entirely due to your influence and how you’ve treated me the past fifteen years. Who I am stems from your responses to my attempts at fulfilling my biological urge of sleeping with you. You’ve shaped my game and views towards women every time you rejected me and every time you opened your legs. You made me who I am, and every day you create one thousand men who are just like me.


  1. Tampa October 19, 2011 at 9:17 am

    The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth right here.

  2. charon October 19, 2011 at 9:24 am

    Three cheers for personal responsibility.

  3. sardino October 19, 2011 at 9:25 am

    I see each statement here as a different level in your progression from beta to alpha. After reading some of these I thought of a specific moment when my mentality shifted, after an encounter with a specific girl.

  4. The Glee Manifesto October 19, 2011 at 9:30 am

    Wait, is it Mother’s Day already?

  5. Michel October 19, 2011 at 9:36 am

    I am Roosh’s broken yet beating heart.

  6. Gmac October 19, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Ah, the depressing truth behind the reasons we learn game to bed women…

    What a screwed up, twisted world we live in for this to be a necessity.

    Thank you women of America.

  7. Vicious October 19, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Good article to link to for every female hater you come across.

    1. Daryush Valizade ; Worthless February 3, 2016 at 11:07 pm


  8. Marmot October 19, 2011 at 9:41 am

    Cue a million “man up” trolls…

  9. odds October 19, 2011 at 9:52 am

    Roosh is Jesus. Believe in him and you will be saved.

  10. The Glee Manifesto October 19, 2011 at 9:54 am

    What have you got against Evolution?

  11. Robert Weedall October 19, 2011 at 9:58 am

    Or it could be that you are the one who decided that getting yourself deep throated was more important to you than having a conversation with another human being?

    It could in fact be that its you, not the rest of the world, not the global economy, not women, not your parents, not your penis just you are as lonely as you’ve made yourself, on your own without any help from anyone?

    It could be that it IS your fault. And that wailing like an overgrown todler about how its anyone but you to blame is absolutely freakin’ pathetic.

    And I wouldn’t ask you to man up, I would ask you to actually think about yourself and wonder if you are anything like the person you want to be, or even if you are having fun anymore.

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 10:44 am

      You haven’t even tried to understand him.
      You have no empathy, sympathy or compassion.
      For shame.

      1. Facepalm August 11, 2015 at 4:30 pm

        Like all the empathy he has for women, who are also people by the way)? Lol he’s just all mad because no one likes his personality. period. roosh = forever alone/ LOSER

      2. marthaz February 4, 2016 at 12:32 pm

        Exactly. These types of men have no idea what women want because they’re not intellectually or emotionally developed yet, and therefore have a hard time connecting with those who are in any meaningful way. Not being self aware, they start to blame this on outside factors, stitching together unrelated encounters (with women) and developing a confirmation bias that tells them (falsely) that this is the way things are.

      3. Pavlos Argyriadis December 5, 2016 at 1:53 pm

        Ok. Tell us. What women want? Try to be half as articulate as Roosh on the matter.

      4. Odile Lee May 29, 2016 at 9:12 pm

        If you read a significant amount of articles on ROK, you would find a great deal of compassion for women, good women in general.

      5. Odile Lee May 29, 2016 at 10:46 pm

        You cannot redeem a broken, bitter heart – with that currency. Only kindness, and caring. And Love.

      6. YaHabibtiColoosh August 13, 2016 at 11:54 am

        So you expect us to show unconditional love, caring and kindness towards men who blame us, lash out at us and are cruel, uncaring and unloving towards us?

      7. YaHabibtiColoosh August 13, 2016 at 11:53 am

        Why should anyone have empathy, sympathy or compassion for a man who won’t own up to his own issues and shortcomings but simply wants to shift blame onto women?

    2. Dougie Howser May 27, 2015 at 7:14 pm

      A prime example of men cutting the legs out from another man being honest. This is what stupid men do have it all on a platter, fail to empathize with other men because, as a man, we are sooo tough not needing anything. Women lock arms to destroy us and half of our brothers play alpha male tough guy to destroy male unity.

      1. Odile Lee May 29, 2016 at 9:16 pm

        Women have a advantage, hormonally from social bonding. Men need to know this, not guilt themselves from lacking a biological advantage. Among themselves only, privately- consider a solution that csn ovveride this lack. Freemasonry has done this, in a all male society. You can also. Kudos to you for recognizing this, and having courage to admit a male weakness( biologically.)

    3. Pavlos Argyriadis December 5, 2016 at 1:39 pm

      As a matter of fact human beings respond to positive an negative reinforcement. All he is talking about is that the reinforcement he gets from females reward him sexually by being an egopath,and reject him when he tries to be affectionate. He clearly states that he tried having meaningfull conversations with females he fancied .. only to find himself friendzoniesed. So your remarks (or should I say personal attacks?) seem to be quite off topic and irrelevant.

    4. Dave R July 12, 2017 at 8:40 am

      Did you miss the parts where he talked about being compassionate toward women and what happened after he had “wgat even she said was a good conversation”?

      Like you, I kept thinking the problem was me. Until I woke up to the pattern and the fact that I WAS giving the women exactly what they CLAIMED to want and always ended up alone, while they’d run back to the assholes every time they called.

      Then I realized, I’m getting friendzoned because women are actually describing what they want in a friend (“Why can’t guys be like us?”).

      But that’s not what they want in a man. They want strength and courage and someone with a backbone that they have to work yo attract. That’s why when you become domesticated and all about her feelings, she loses interest and moves on.

      Plus, you’re putting every woman on a pedastal. No girlfriend? It must be him!

      Tell me, how many girls did you have “a real conversation” with and bang?

      Oh wait; “Women are for more than sex!”

      Yup. But they don’t want to do those things no more and the fact is, you’re not getting any and you’re defending them tossing you aside for doing exactly what they claim they want in a man, which according to them, is you. Yet there you sit with a tited right hand in masturbation central.

      Yes, it can be their fault and no, “that special one who’s not like that” is not out there! Your momma chose to take the side of women and lied to you! And you could have been happy a long time ago, had you taken the red pill!

  12. George October 19, 2011 at 10:04 am

    Fuck off Robert Weedall.

    I wouldn’t say women made men into players. I would say that society, including parents and friends, tries to blindfold men from reality and feeds men garbage.

    There is nothing inherently bad about looking after your own needs, not being a pussy, and going for what you want (including sex). The truth is beautiful and society does its best to keep it from you.

  13. Sleeper October 19, 2011 at 10:04 am

    This should be posted on every feminist website or as a response to any feminist rant.


    1. Facepalm August 11, 2015 at 4:32 pm

      All it is is a man whining about how he’s so great. Which guess what? Makes him not great. Poor sad lonely pathetic ugly hairy roosh

      1. Anton Chigurh August 11, 2015 at 4:54 pm

        You can barely conceal your obvious desire and fury that you’re the type of girl–fat, plain, boring–that he would never in a million years pay attention to. It’s classic.

      2. NRG357 January 2, 2016 at 4:18 am

        He does a lot better than you do. And if he can do it, he can talk about it if he wants to. Most here would listen.

      3. Odile Lee May 29, 2016 at 9:10 pm

        Even if he was unnactractive, this has nothing to do with this post. Personal opinion devoud of fact does not advance arguement. It simply makes you look uneducated and incapable of serious debate. Not a good way to advance a arguement against Mr Roosh.

    2. marthaz February 4, 2016 at 12:34 pm

      What? It’s ridiculous and laughable. Guy can’t score so he becomes demeaning and selfish. Oh wow, that will really show them!

      1. LegallySpeaking February 4, 2016 at 1:40 pm

        your father was demeaning and selfish.

        right before he abandoned you….


  14. Ollie October 19, 2011 at 10:05 am

    @Robert Weedall

    I’m sensing a lot of anger here.
    Did your boyfriend bail on you, cupcake?

  15. Anonymous October 19, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Every woman who has ever complained about men or said “where have all the good men gone” needs to read this. Send it kay hymowitz

  16. Robert Weedall October 19, 2011 at 10:10 am

    The truth may be many things but “beautiful” is not usually one of them. Harsh, disturbing, neccesary and good certainly but I’d never consider the truth especially pretty.

    And there isn’t anything wrong with it, but questioning as to wether or not THIS is what you actually want is not a bad idea, especially for someone who values truth.

  17. Ms. L. Lohan October 19, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Maybe it’s time for you to MAN UP

    1. Dougie Howser May 27, 2015 at 7:17 pm

      Who should man up ? The pretend alpha male hating his brothers or the true man holding up his brothers.

  18. Robert Weedall October 19, 2011 at 10:12 am

    Nahhh, but he is away in hawaii at the moment -weeps and throws hand over forehad- Oh I miss him so much, I fear I may have to throw myself into the sea etc etc.

    I’m not angry, if I were angry I’d have sworn, I’m just sad that some people feel this way about half of the human race.

    1. Guest March 15, 2015 at 10:57 am

      Must be nice to have not suffered what teaches people to become such.

      Too bad not knowing can foster entitlement in those, who have not.

      If you had any human kindness, you would feel for those who suffer. Not sad that ” that some people feel this way about half of the human race. ”
      Because it came from someone being abused.

      Because thats what it is. Abuse. Abuse is what takes a caring, thoughtful, kindly person and forces them to take measure to avoid more. Because the abused, gather more abuse. Abuse by women whose own selfishness, self-interests, and stupidity were more fascinating than connecting with a man, treating him like a object, and discarding him like rubbish.

      Anyone with a heart, would never heap contempt on a brave outpouring of what he suffered. Anyone with a brain, would consider what Roosh has to say. Anyone with sense, would take heed.

      Im a woman with very little education, other than what Ive taught myself, but even I know there is nothing as foolish as bloody minded ignorance.

    2. Guest March 15, 2015 at 11:05 am

      Must be nice to have not suffered what teaches people to become such.
      Too bad not knowing can foster entitlement in those, who have not.

      If you had any human kindness, you would feel for someone who suffered. Not sad that ” that some people feel this way about half of the human race. ”
      Because it came from someone being abused.

      Because thats what it is. Abuse. Abuse is what it takes for a caring, thoughtful, kindly person like Roosh, to force him to take measure to avoid more of the same. Because the abused, gather more abuse.
      Women who should know better, whose selfishness, self-interests, and stupidity were more fascinating than connecting with a man. Leading to treating him like a object, and discarding him like rubbish.

      You think it doesn’t take courage to tell this?
      They broke his heart, and tried to break his manhood.

      Anyone with a heart, would never heap contempt on this brave outpouring, of what he suffered.

  19. Y October 19, 2011 at 10:13 am

    I just had this knowledge hammered home for the umpteenth time recently.

    I’m long past the point of being white-knight beta boy… but even treating someone with basic human decency and respect got thrown back into my face.

    Another nail in the coffin of what was good and wholesome about me.

  20. Robert Weedall October 19, 2011 at 10:19 am

    *forehead, lack of flippin’ spellcheck!

    @Y: Maybe you should just, I dunno, consider ignoring crazy/terminally daft people? I have and its helped a great deal in ensuring my faith in humanity.

  21. Pierce October 19, 2011 at 10:30 am

    George is right.

    Society is so FUCKED UP. America sucks so badly. Damn it is a mess.

    Feminization of Youth

    I dealt with suspensions and punishments all through grade school because I acted up. I am a male. Males do not sit down and sit still for 6-8 hours EVERY DAY. We are different from women.

    Then High school, more PC bullshit. Letting the girls win tug of war, suspending guys for weed while slapping women on the wrist for the same offense. “Girls are Better than Boys,” “Real men are white knights.” “Get married and deal with it” “Be nice” “Jump, I said Jump.”

    You are taught to be a follower rather than a damn leader. Everywhere you look. Buy this. Work here. Take this loan. Get a mortgage. OVER AND OVER AGAIN! WTF! What about having children? What about happiness? What about a real life!!!!

    Sports, NFL, NBA. Where all the hot chicks?

    From Age 16 to 20, I lived vicariously through sports. When not playing sports, I would smoke weed and play video games with my friends.

    At my athletic prime, I still could not understand how crazy American girls were, why they cuss so much, get fat, yell and scream, and generally wreak havoc on everyone.

    America is a sex prison

    America is a sex prison country, and you ONLY KNOW THIS if you venture outside of it. The average man cannot even get a blowjob after a hard days work.

    The hot girls are taken. The bar is full of men. Even the hookers online are “Busy.” This is joke and makes you believe women are scarce.

    In nature, women are ABUNDANT. That’s right, ABUNDANT! Get on a place for goodness sake.


    If you try to get a young girl, it’s jailbait.

    If you try a regular girl, you jump through hoops.

    If you want a married girl, you risk being shot or stabbed.


    We are conditioned to get drunk, kill our braincells, and load up on estrogen JUST TO GET PUSSY! That is so stupid…….

    America is Toxic to the Capital T

    Who lead the mass product of animal meats? USA

    Who is know for its racially segregated society? USA

    Who is known for its poor excuse for women? USA

    Who has men that go without sex for months, years, and even decades (RIP George Sordini)? USA

    Who locks up men for wanting a family or refusing to become a child support paying slave for 18 years? USA

    Who puts their meats with ammonia, chemicals, dyes and all this other crap? USA

    Man, Roosh is going easy on this one

    MAN ROOSH ONLY TOUCHED ON 1% of the problems here.

    If you have been anywhere else but North America, you realize how fucking upside down this place is.

    – pathetic health care
    – unemployment problems
    – shitty nasty food
    – killing animals left and right
    – destroying rainforest
    – obesity
    – racial tension
    – police attacking CILIVIANS
    – feminist shaming
    – cancer and heart disease
    – government bailouts
    – illegal immigration
    – masculine women
    – mangina men
    – anti-social society
    – focus on money over people
    – surface more than substance
    – most segragated country in the world
    – bankrupt US dollar since 70’s
    – white vs black
    – young vs old
    – light vs dark
    – nappy vs straight
    – beta vs alpha
    – rich vs poor
    – prison for petty crimes
    – cuckolding
    – 33% false paternity tests
    – higher taxes, lower income
    – BS, BS, BS

    I’m fucking sick and tired of all this PC bullshit.


    Men need game, money, trinkets, cars, clothes, dyed hair, WTF does this have to do with humanity?


    We are all sick clogs in this stupid machine.

    My friends in UK and South America make fun of AMERICANS (both men and women) ALL THE TIME!

    Please travel for months (not some BS tourist vacation) until you talk.


    I’m 25 now and know a lot more than 99.9% of Americans. I’ve had near death experiences. Been almost robbed, killed, beaten, mugged, shot, everything. You cannot tell me SHIT!

    It’s a blessing that I made it back alive. Then I have to hear this dumb crap about “It’s you.” Get the fuck outta here. People like Robert are the reason why “Occupy Wall Street” exists.

    You are so FUCKING BLIND to the rest of the world. They might have less money, but America has NO SOUL. It’s bankrupt in everything EXCEPT GREED!

    FUCK GREED! Life is too short. I watch this stuff from afar, and cry because I wasted 24 years of my life in this hellhole.

    I’m a man of COLOR. I need to be around warm weather, friendly people, hot women, fresh food. I.E NATURE!

    I’m stuck in this stupid anglo-saxon, cold hearted evil place, and it will wear on any HUMAN.


    God Bless Roosh for waking up. Life is about ups and downs. He will find his way, but it’s better to try and fail than STAY CHAINED LIKE A SLAVE IN THE USA AND NEVER TRY AT ALL.

    I am done. I don’t care what anybody else says. You probably need an ounce of humanity to get this. Otherwise, you are just a kind of man with no heart, soul or compassion because your “heart” died a long time ago!

    1. Odile Lee May 29, 2016 at 9:03 pm

      The evil drugging of young boys left behind by the increase of schooling catered to young girls, is the reason people with ADHD( often to the point of disabilty like myself) – cannot get medication to help them, at least partially, survive in normal society. This also contributed to a large proportion of young men, being incarcerated.
      Any person with ADHD’s fight, should encorporate these aspects of men’s rights. Since I am female, any truly maternal woman, let alone with ADHD, should feel strongly for the plight of young boys, especially. Drugging them, teaching them they are possible rapists- is not the way to raise well adjusted, sane young men.

  22. Harry Mulligan October 19, 2011 at 10:33 am

    I like your blog, but i think that half of your readership is probably insane.

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:07 am

      There is a difference between being insane- and being driven to it.
      No, this gentleman and his followers are very sensible.

  23. outlaw josey wales October 19, 2011 at 10:41 am

    So say we all.

  24. Bronan the Barbarian! October 19, 2011 at 10:43 am

    It’s the sad but simple truth – being a nice guy gets you nothing.

  25. Peter October 19, 2011 at 10:45 am

    Roosh is the man! Feminism is irritating, but without it, getting 100+ lays in 5 years would be harder!

  26. Robert Weedall October 19, 2011 at 10:48 am

    Being “nice” may get you nothing being “good” at least ensures your own self-respect.

    But thats because being “nice” is a horrible thing to be. “nice” means next to nothing. When your staying at an old peoples home the decour is usually “nice”, its a none word.

    Being “nice” and expecting women to just go “oh my God, he’s behaving like a lot of other humans, I must fuck him till he can’t walk!” is kind of odd. Instead try and do something you personally find satisfying or worthwhile and stop giving a shit about what its going to make you “look like”.

    Sorry I am posting a bit too much, I do apoligise!

    1. MC January 24, 2016 at 11:44 am

      You’re missing the point, moron: he has seen that acting the exact opposite of “nice” get’s him the girl with far greater frequency. It’s not that being nice automatically entitles you to get whatever woman you want, it’s the fact that acting like an unfeeling sociopath shouldn’t work as often as it does.

      And because it does, the “nice” i.e. good man is done an injustice.

      1. Andy September 23, 2018 at 12:40 pm

        While you’re right about the first part, you’re missing the difference between “nice” and “good”. So the phrase “the “nice” i.e. good man” is wrong, because being nice is not equal to being good

  27. Gmac October 19, 2011 at 10:59 am

    Damn Pierce that was ^^Epic!^^ +1

  28. dickbutt October 19, 2011 at 11:01 am

    good post bruh

  29. Rakishness October 19, 2011 at 11:06 am


    That’s the best comment I’ve read in awhile. Post that on the forum if your member.


  30. Anonymous October 19, 2011 at 11:11 am

    Very nice post but let’s not get things out of perspective here.

  31. Carmo October 19, 2011 at 11:15 am

    @20, not half of humanity, just worthless American bitches.

  32. Retrenched October 19, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Women get more of what they sleep with, and less of what they friend-zone. Then they complain about ending up with what they slept with, instead of what they friend-zoned.

    Like when girls complain that their boyfriends are “emotionally unavailable”. Shit, honey, if he were “emotionally available” he would never have become your boyfriend in the first place; he’d be some “nice” beta orbiter that you’d never dream of sleeping with in a million years.

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:13 am

      I tried telling complaining females – men are not as bad as you think. Just pick one of the nice ones. My boyfriend is very nice, and oh! did he have a secret side to him!
      Don’t expect men to change, men are easy to understand. This is the beauty of maleness. Reason.
      No takers.

  33. Gus October 19, 2011 at 11:22 am

    This post is exactly what I guess most of us have gone through at different points. I still remember the first few times when girls flaked on me after saying that she “really enjoyed the conversation”. I was so confused.

    At the time, I was going for younger women in college. Then I listened to feminists’ advice. Maybe younger women are very flakey because they are young and immature. So I went for women in their mid 20s. Guess what changed? Nothing. Same flakey nature.

    Again, I took the advice from women. I am going for bar chicks, and as they said, maybe they are all chicks with low self esteem and going after women in a better environment would change things. So I chatted up women at dance studios, coffee shops and other more relaxed environments. Guess what changed? Nothing. Same shit here as well.

    At some point I got fed up of collecting phone numbers. I was like, either I fuck her tonight or I am not going to bother with her. Guess what changed? Everything.

    Being super aggressive with women, and blatantly communicating that I am only looking for sex, made them super interested in me. Flakes went down. They suddenly became very interested in giving me what I want.

    And now they are calling me out for being a player. Telling me that I am living a stupid life, that life is not one big pussy chase. That I should find a nice girl, get to know her well. That fast sex is not conducive for relationships. And writing stupid articles in WSJ questioning that men just want to live like a bachelor and don’t want to take responsibility.

    1. Lal November 25, 2015 at 9:30 am

      Maybe your personality is so shitty, that no women wanted to have anything else with you but sex? Maybe you cold have asked the women who put you down, why they didn’t want to continue the relationship, maybe they had valid points that could have improved your self perception. But no the problem obviously has to be on the women because you are just perfect and nice and they din’t want you because they’re stupid and not because there may be something wrong with YOU.
      There is a wide wide spectrum of personalities and you get to choose between asshole and subversient shy. But you chose to go the easy path and decided to be an asshole instead of considering your impact on others. You did this to yourself and not the women who (god forbit!) didn’t want to date you.

      1. Geoff February 5, 2016 at 4:32 pm

        Actually, no. Acting like an asshole is exceptionally hard for guys who are not assholes by nature.
        Women do not want nice guys, which is exactly why guys like Roosh and millions of others have to adopt this act, which is the point of the whole article.

      2. OffWhiteKnight November 26, 2016 at 4:14 pm

        ” Maybe your personality is so shitty, that no women wanted to have anything else with you but sex?” You do realize that this entire tirade is about how fucked up it is that American ( and Western in general) women require a shitty personality in a potential partner, right? “There is a wide wide spectrum of personalities and you get to choose between asshole and subversient shy. But you chose to go the easy path and be an asshole instead of considering your impact on others.” Wow.. a couple of things here. First, his post clearly mentions that he asked women ( feminists, at that) for advice about his relationship troubles. I don’ t see why you’re berating him for not doing so or how you came to the conclusion that he didn’t in the first place. Next, he chose the easy path? Well, first off, as Geoff says above, acting like an asshole is far from easy unless you are in fact an asshole. Second, I’m assuming from your post that you’re a woman.. how would you know what’s easy for guys and what’s not?? Finally.. I’m not sure what you mean by “subversient shy”, subversient is not a word, at least not in English. You appear to have combined the words “subservient” which means prepared to obey others unquestioningly, less important/subordinate, or a means to an end (If you want to be any of that to a woman, you’re wasting your time here btw. This site is not for you) and the word “subversive” which means disruptive, troublemaking, inflammatory, or rebellious. For example, it would be subversive to pose as a male feminist while attempting to undermine feminism, but that would not help a guy hook up as posing as a male feminist would get him planted firmly in the friend zone of any woman he encounters.

    2. NonàlAfrance August 24, 2017 at 10:29 am

      Hello I am french but what means Same ‘flakey nature’ ? Thanks

  34. manifest October 19, 2011 at 11:33 am

    The Roosh manifesto!

    I love the style (You made me…).


  35. Anonymous October 19, 2011 at 11:36 am

    If you’re banging women left and right in foreign countries and that supposedly gives you so much happiness (do you even know the meaning of the word?), why do you waste so much energy being angry at American women? You’ve written to their parents, you’ve listed their faults; we get it. Let it go, dude. Enjoy the life you have now if it makes you so happy. But wait, you’re still lonely. Time to stop whining and accept your reality.

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:14 am

      Because he wants to stop the rot.

      1. marthaz February 4, 2016 at 12:39 pm

        He should start with himself

  36. Timothy October 19, 2011 at 11:39 am

    I won’t attack Robert Weedall. That’s pointless. What I will do is challenge him to deny that American society has essentially turned against males, starting in elementary school. In empowering girls, we’ve attacked and stifled boys. Behavior that is inherently natural to males is being suppressed. And this continues in one form or the other throughout our lives. This is reflected throughout popular culture, and frankly soft men have contributed to this. They’ve allowed feminism to shame them into apologizing for being born male, and aligned them against their own gender. I just read in the NY Daily News yesterday a review of the new sitcom “Man Up!” by David Hinckley. Of course, he panned it because it’s full of the beer commercial cliches of men as barely responsible, helpless, video game-playing dolts. The sad thing is this show was created by one of its “stars,” Christopher Moynihan. Why would a man create this kind of nonsense? Because he knew it would get green-lighted. It will be canceled shortly, but it never should have been conceived in the first place. I would expect chicks to write shit like this, but not men. In most sitcom setups, men are blatantly disrespected by their women, AND their KIDS. I thank the heavens for James Bond 007…the last character that’s still allowed to be a man. No coincidence the Bond films aren’t produced in the US.

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:15 am

      Manwomenmyth has a series on youtube that are excellent explaining the rise of this.

  37. BTD October 19, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Roosh, Love ya, but this is beta. Woman don’t know why they are the way they are. It’s million-year-old programming that dictates alphas mix with their seed and produce the strongest offspring.

    Civilized American society tells guys to go against the grain and be gentleman, but the true programming trumps white-knightery in the end.

    Feminized American society tells girls they’re free to act on their programming (even though this makes them so truly unladylike).

    Be mad at American society for promoting a flawed message; embrace females for what they are – flawed messengers.


    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:16 am

      It is Alpha courage to tell a tale about ones battles.
      This is how they instruct the young, and inexperienced.

  38. Gmac October 19, 2011 at 11:46 am


    Not until the problem is gone. It is bigger than you or me.

  39. Luckystar October 19, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Fuckin modern day gospel.

  40. Robert Weedall October 19, 2011 at 11:53 am

    First of all I should probably point out that I am from Britain, which despite being the 51st state is a bit different to the us, and I’d say that there IS a lot of Misandry floating around (especially in tv land) but that its not the fault of all American women.

    Its the fault of letting stupid people into creative proffessions and then letting them dictate what “culture” is.

    And the problem lies right in the heart of your statement “I’d expect chicks to watch this” and yet you cheerfully state that its “feminising” for men to be seen in the show.

    Feminising shouldn’t mean “weakening” anymore than manning up should mean “being strong”.

    A lot of people seem to get sucked into this weird idea that men and women are fundamentally at war with each other and that equality means “women on top” instead of what it actually means.

    The most important point is to decide if you are going to let it bother you or if you are actually going to care about all of this, or if you are going to ignore it and hope that other people do to.

    Anywho, this has become very VERY long and probably more dull than watching paint dry on growing grass.

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:24 am

      “A lot of people seem to get sucked into this weird idea that men and women are fundamentally at war with each other and that equality means “women on top” instead of what it actually means.”

      You haven’t any idea of what is actually going down right as we speak, as has been for some time. I was this way once. Its going to be very shocking to find out the Truth.

      I think your posts are interesting, because your trying to communicate. But sadly Mr. Weedall, the idea of equality has been taken by feminism, which is a commodity of both business and govt. – and profaned. It can’t always be assumed the meaning of equality is what it should be.
      They are actively trying to take rights away from men like you. They influence media, have large lobbies in multiple countries , and what they teach, is actively influencing women in most western countries. As well as in schools, which is screwing up boys.
      No one is separate anymore. And its getting worse.

  41. Sam Spade October 19, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    Love this blog, but isn’t this like playing the victim card? I’m not accusing, I’m asking – it’s not rhetorical.

    Nobody held a gun to your head dude. Own your decisions. There’s nothing wrong with the life you’ve chosen as you know. Nobody made you choose your life any more than they made the millions of betas choose theirs.

  42. Timothy October 19, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    I would disagree Sam Spade. I think a victim is someone that remains in a detrimental situation and bemoans their lot, not someone that removes themselves from a detrimental circumstance, makes necessary changes or adjustments, and then explains WHY they did so. I think when a person makes a radical change in their life, it’s usually triggered by someone or something. It forces a light to come on when you bottom out.

  43. Concerned October 19, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    I like Roosh. I haven’t read anything else but anyone who can get all the crazy people in the world rounded up into one tight-knit group railing against their issues is a god. You know, he kind of reminds me of Hitler. A Hitler who hates women instead of people of Jewish descent.

    Grow up and get over yourselves. You’re a site of arrogant pricks who haven’t grown up to realize that the world just won’t submit to your tear-stained whining. Women walk all over you? Maybe stop dating the first person you see just because you can’t control yourself. There are jerks of both sexes in this world. Although judging from what I read here – you deserve each other.

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:25 am

      He doesn’t hate women, per se.

      1. blend February 3, 2016 at 4:26 pm

        Sure. He only hates the women that he can’t have. He hates the women who don’t act according to what he thinks is proper for women. He hates women who disagree with his backwards and destructive ideologies. He hates the women who said “no” to him and blames them for his shitty self-esteem.

        The only women that Roosh can get are the ones whose self-esteem is as shitty as his own. He preys on women who are so desperate to feel loved and be touched that they are willing to succumb to his “game.”

  44. Anon October 19, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    Pierce’s post deserves a spot as an article.

    Fucking epic, all-encompassing description of America. The root of America’s problem lies in its move away from nationalism to its full embrace of capitalism. Nationalism is doing things for the greater good of the nation, while capitalism is doing what is good for a few people.

    America sucessfully made it through the American Revolution, the Civil War, two world wars, and even put men on the moon because people believed that their sacrifices & tribulations were for the good of America, that even if the few in charge (the patriarchy) benefitted, the patriarchy still looked out for the good of the nation. Today, our sacrifices benefit not the nation but the few in charge, the capitalists.

    Everything from illegal immigration to unjust divorce laws to consumerism to lack of jobs to student loan debt to mortgage defaults to lack of health care to obesity to male vs. female feminist ideology to our fucked up food supply to media bullshit to our third world public education system, or any of America’s ills can directly be traced to capitalism and the lack of nationalism.

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:27 am

      And just exactly who do you think supports, promotes and created feminism, which is the cause of whats gone wrong with relations between the sexes?
      Its the hidden truth.

  45. Anon October 19, 2011 at 12:34 pm


    STFU. You are an ignorant bitch.

    I challenge you to read Mein Kempf in its entirety before you mention anything about Hitler. Like most ignorant people, you will read a few pages and throw it down in digust. Not because you dislike it, but because you actually agree with what Hitler wrote.

  46. Colonel Klink October 19, 2011 at 12:42 pm


    Nice readership you have here Roosh.

  47. virgle Kent October 19, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    I bet you there will be a female version of this post within two days…. in 5 4 3 2 …..

  48. greenlander October 19, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    +1 Roosh lol

  49. Timothy October 19, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Agreed Anon…unless someone is blatantly endorsing the elimination of a particular group of people, Hitler references generally should be left alone.

    It’s funny…someone will start by saying they like the blog, then launch into a critcism of a post that someone makes. This blog is many things – a place for guys to bitch, gripe, share, advise, debate, disagree, etc. There are always those that can’t stick to the subject at hand, and instead launch into personal attacks instead of simply debating a point that was made. Or to make themselves out to be superior to others that post here.

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:28 am

      Emotionalism is indeed a error. I apologise for any of my own.
      One should stick to the facts.

  50. Darwin October 19, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Now you’re blaming me for this??

  51. Phinn October 19, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    I don’t read this post as complaining or hate-filled, or any of that. It’s an expression of understanding. Leaving America to find cultures that are relatively untainted by the stain of feminism made Roosh happy.

    How is understanding biological reality a problem? How is finding your happiness a problem? The only anger one ought to have is not directed at women for being women, but at all the liars. Nature is never wrong. Only people can be wrong.

    In contrast, being frustrated with American women is a problem. Hating one’s lot being stuck in a misandrist feminist culture is a problem.

    Feminism was a synthetic propaganda tool designed to advance Marxism. Ironically, it is in the post-Communist world (e.g., Poland) where feminism seems to have had relatively little traction. Why? They didn’t need it! They got Communism imposed at the point of a gun, so by the time the 1960s came around, there was no need to invent feminism to advance it. As a result, Eastern Europe lagged behind both technologically and culturally. Going there is like walking into a nature preserve, the Land That Time Forgot, or one of those living museums where actors portray historical figures. That’s how life was, once upon a time, in America.

    That’s why Mad Men is so popular. It’s set only 40 years ago, but it seems like another planet. Watching that show is like sitting a child down for a talk: “Yes, once upon a time, son, men drank alcohol and hired hot secretaries so they could ogle them and occasionally bang them. Women actually wanted to be pretty and charming and cook well. This made them happy. Making money and giving it to women to spend made men happy. Then they’d have sex and that made them happy.”

  52. Solo October 19, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    Women are meant to be seen not heard!

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:30 am

      One of the best things a woman can have, is a good man to teach her how to be objective.

  53. Papa Roosh October 19, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    Roosh for President!!!!!!!!!!

  54. Sam Spade October 19, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Good point, Timothy. As a man of science I have to concede that there is an explanation for everything. Roosh is providing an explanation.

  55. Rollo Tomassi October 19, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    It takes a special kind of blank-slater myopia to think this essay is some personal account or painful self-reflective catharsis. This essay isn’t Roosh, it’s everyman.

    It’s a parable meant to describe a progression and the conditions contributing to it. Only men still self-afflicted with their orignal, plugged-in delusions would think this was meant to generate sympathy of some kind. Anyone writing this analysis is already aware of the uselessness of sympathy.

    Go back to your warm cocoon, it’ll all be over soon.

  56. Anonymous October 19, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    As long as everyone here is swallowing red pills, here is one about health care.

    What health care actually is-
    1) Getting 7-9 hours of restful sleep each night.
    2) Eating healthy, nutritious unprocessed food in moderation.
    3) Exercise
    4) Avoiding accidents
    5) Supplementing any minerals, vitamins, or other nutrients you need that aren’t in your food.

    When you guys talk about health care, you are actually referring to sickness care(which is indeed terrible). Health care is your responsibility and taking care of your health is your first insurance against sickness.

  57. Gus October 19, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    All these people talking about how Roosh is whining, this is exact problem with American women (maybe American people in general?). After a long time, Roosh is actually showing his feelings, what he feels for real. And there you are dumb fucks saying how he is whining. That he is exhibiting beta characteristics.

    Then when he stops this, goes back to chasing pussy with all the game, then you say life is not about one big pussy chase. That he should “connect on a deeper level” with girls.

  58. Dr. Dupree October 19, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    This post really hit home with me. Great work!

    I still find myself falling in love and breaking the rules; fucking up what I’ve made.

    Dr. Dupree

  59. The Private Man October 19, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    An epic and very appropriate observational essay. Smart men adapt very well to changing social expectations.

    If something doesn’t work when we strive for a goal, we change our tactics and maybe even our overall strategy.

    In this post, Roosh is doing nothing more than describing the process of adapting and the reasons behind it.

    He’s fundamentally correct.

    As an aside, women over 40 flake just as much as their younger counterparts. My response is to adapt much like Roosh. I work a pipeline of women at all times knowing full well that 50% will flake out.

  60. Anonymous October 19, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Roosh – I am sorry. Those women who did this to you were idiots, they didn’t deserve your kindness in the first place. But not all women are idiots, maybe just 99% of them. I hope that if you run into one from the 1%, you might still be able to revert back to your original self, rather than missing out on her completely due to your “funnel”. You’re s smart guy, you know how to modify your behavior to reach whatever goals you set yourself, I’m sure you’ll be able to figure out to balance finding this (if you get to a point where you decide you want it) with what’s currently satisfying your short-term goals.

  61. JST October 19, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    @ 60 Anonymous

    Roosh is smart. He left the shores of the US and found happiness, pleasure and decency among foreign women. It’ll be a cold day in hell once more men become like Roosh and realize that they have better options elsewhere. Just like Japan’s herbivore men, American men will increasingly begin to ignore local women and either live as bachelors or find feminine, sweet women in other countries.

    It’s American women that will ultimately lose for their arrogance and bad decisions.

  62. Timothy October 19, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    “It’s American women that will ultimately lose for their arrogance and bad decisions.”

    I posted this exact thing on one of Roosh’s other posts. But it will take the cream of men to do this – the men that American women most prize (Age 30 or so, great job/salary, house, car, etc.) to start looking elsewhere for them to really notice and adjust. If it’s just middle-aged guys on their second or third marriage that do it, it won’t have an impact. Some a couple of college-aged tricks trolled on Roosh’s post about Naomi Wolf, claiming that foreign men LOVED American girls. As a novelty, to fuck, maybe (like the Asian businessman wanting to fuck an American blond princess, then go back home to his traditional wife), but not to marry. American men, however, DO have other options, and not just wealthy guys.

  63. dragnet October 19, 2011 at 4:46 pm


    This post isn’t just Roosh speaking for himself—it’s him speaking for an entire demographic of former AFCs who’ve learned the truth and in doing so rose from the ashes of a fucked up feminist wasteland to inhabit a poon nirvana.

    This isn’t him whining, bitching or otherwise avoiding personal responbility. It’s one guy telling the story of current zeitgeist.

    Wake the motherfuck up.

  64. Port Rubyrose October 19, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    We all know this. Let’s quit our whining, hit the gym, make some money, and get laid.
    Oh, and give them the husband they deserve – none.

    I don’t really care any more that my professors in undergrad gave these bitches higher grades for crappier work. So what.
    Or that my pussy CFO and VP would only.promote women to Director or Junior VP. Big deal.
    Or that women grow grossly fat, sexless, and progressively more bitchy over the years. Who cares.

    Because every year, a new crop of them hit 22 years old, and they’ll often screw a diesel guy in his 30s, 40s, or even 50s, if he’s fit, healthy, and has airtight game.
    Because my downtown 3 bedroom is a short walk from the delicious looking parade of whores that flood the streets like lemmings from Thursday to Saturday night.
    Because my car is shiny, big, and fast; my clothes are kick-ass, as are my boat, motorcycle, and guitar collection.
    Because my high school and college friends are, like me, making good money and utterly disinterested in fat moms, whiny kids, divorce court, and crummy suburbs.

    Hey, get me a double Lagavullin, rocks. Keep it open. I’m celebrating tonight.

  65. ponymaruni October 19, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    I have a question. American women respond well to disrespect and coldness but my question is whether or not other women from other countries respond will to beta qualities like being affectionate etc?

  66. Cliff Arroyo October 19, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    It’s always amazing to me that women (as a group) refuse to take responsibility for shaping male behavior while holding men (as a group) responsible for “oppressing” female behavior.
    Women reward men (and male behavior) with sex and company in that order and have a large amount of social power towards shaping male behavior.

    That said, there was no golden age. Mad men may seem like a lot of sexy fun but that’s because viewers don’t actually have to live in that society which on a day to day basis for most people was not great (if it had been that great it wouldn’t have been so easy to topple).

    One big problem with American life is the combination of conflicting values, neither of which is that bad on its own. We like upsetting the status quo (whatever it is at the time) and we like internal consistency and we have a tendency to go from one bad extreme instead to another instead of finding equibilibrium in the messy middle. One of the nice things about Poland is that it mostly isn’t very internally consistent and is resistant to dramatic change. That’s how a relaxed attitude towards recreational sex for the unattached can co-exist with most people wanting to get married and start families.

    Side note to Roosh: If you are leaving Poland you really should stay at least until November, All Soul’s Day here is one of the last of the great European folk-religious ceremonies and really worth hanging around for.

  67. Stephen October 19, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    “Roosh is Jesus. Believe in him and you will be saved.”

    Hallelujah and Amen Bro! Haha! A Great Wake Up Call for All the Men around America!

  68. mr lucas October 19, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Man, I expected that to end with “you arethe 99%”. Quality post, typifies my experience (less the international exodus)Man

  69. Timothy October 19, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    “Its the fault of letting stupid people into creative proffessions and then letting them dictate what “culture” is.”

    I don’t believe they’re dictating culture…they’re reflecting it. I worked at A&E for almost 4 years, only the head of Legal & Business Affairs was a male (non-creative). Most of the Presidents, V.P.s, and heads of various other departments were women. I think you’ll find this throughout television, where women have great control over content. Culture is all around us, so it’s pretty possible to ignore, and we shouldn’t. In Hollywood, it’s mostly men running studios, but the next level under them there are more and more women. I think we’ve become comfortable with the portrayal of men on television, while motion pictures will always have certain genres that appeal solely to men. Actually, some of the better cable series are coming out of the UK (“StrikeBack” and “Torchwood” which have strong male characters, though the boss, a Colonel, in “StrikeBack” is female). I find in general that network television in the US is horrible. Most tv series have their run and are cancelled without me seeing a single episode. I watch cable almost exclusively, so I can still see men be men, warts and all.

  70. Mulata October 19, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    I reckon that extreme as you are, you are soon going to end up happily married; then delete this blog and preach monogamy!

  71. Jordan October 19, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Could be your best post ever!

  72. Jordan October 19, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    Oh yeah…

    And Fuck off Robert Weedhall

  73. olivherbst October 19, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Somehow this reminds me of V – Vendetta.

    “What they did to me was monstrous.”

    “And they´ve created a monster.”

    No matter what happened to you: don´t forget you have a choice.

    I love your stuff, by the way 😀

  74. alex October 19, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    so lots of meaningless fucking has not made your life any better?

    I guess that makes you a whore.

  75. Peter Phoenix October 19, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    Shout out to the minority of dudes who found awesome marriages with amazing women. You are the 1%.

  76. Generate October 19, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Right on point, Roosh, as usual. I’ve been checking in now and then and your mind is still mint. This is exactly how I feel. It transcends logic but it is the truth. I have consistently been busting in broads based on the most illogical, rude, asshole behavior. There is no doubt that this post was from the heart and humanized the whole fucking game. Congrats on all your success with the blog/books.

  77. Mig Mack October 19, 2011 at 6:55 pm


    Of course it made his life better, you stupid troll. Read the damn blog. Game makes every guy’s life better.

  78. Timothy October 19, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    @77…I love how people want to believe that men that get a lot of pussy are somehow leading empty lives. Not everyone is geared towards LTRs, or take longer to arrive at that point. In the meantime, they can be quite happy with just sex with a variety of women. I don’t knock dudes that are in relationships or married – I hope they’re happy. I just can’t stand when they act superior to guys that aren’t interested in living that way.

  79. doclove October 19, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    @ Roosh and everyone
    I’m a bit late to the commentary, but here goes. Please feel free to reprint and comment on this. American Women on average are horrible people. Not all of them, and certainly there are horrible outliers as well as wonderful outliers. There are good and bad men too. However, men are much more likely to pay for thier own sins and shortcomings as well as women’s sins and shortcomings. Women on average don’t pay for thir shortcomings and sins as much as men and often men pay for them whether they want to or not. I’m a 43 year old White Gentile man raise Christian & Catholic, and am an U.S. Army Veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan. I have real horror stories about American women as a result. Hold on to your seats and try not to cry as you read this long but necessarry post by me. these women were extreme outliers in a bad way, but they illustrate what is wrong with American Women and Western women and civilized East Asian Women too to one degree or way or another.

    I had to console a friend of mine from another battalion because his friend committed suicide. He wanted to kill his dead friend’s wife and sobbed all night in Iraq. I warned him not to kill her on his return as he would be among the first for the police to look for even though his friend’s wife deserved it in my opinion. His friend was on his third deployment to Iraq, and we were on our first. His friend made a Dear John telephone call to ask why she was taking(stealing) his money only to find out that she wanted to leave him and was impregnated by a neighbor civilian “friend”(disgusting as that sounds to say-with friends like that who needs enemies). He sobbed why. She told him to kill himself so she could recieve $800,000 dollars in military life insurance. He walked into a portapotty, put an M-16 rifle to his head, and committed suicide. Members of his battalion were devastated as he was very poular and well loved. I knew him barely as an acquaintaince, but was a friend of a friend. Then there were the threats of suicide including someone in my battalion who walked up to the battalion commander, a lieutenant colonel, pulled out his M-9 handgun unless he was allowed to go home because although he was without children and his wife was not impregnated by someone else, the same otherwise was happening to him. Many in the brigade threaten suicide. My fellow battalion soldier went home and was chaptered out for mental illness during his second deployment.

    Then in Afghanistan, a Sergeant and Non Commimision Officer in charge of one of my friends made plans to go home on Rest and Recuperation Leave(vacation or holiday) to visit his divorced wife’s home and his only child and beloved daughter for her 3rd birthday. His wife had hooked up with Mr.Thug Life while taking the Sergeant’s money for child support. Mr. Thug Life was known to be physically and emotionally abusive to the daughter. The Sergeant returned a week before the girl’s 3rd birthday on emergency leave because Mr. Thug Life killed the daughter. The Sergeant’s Company Commander, a Captain, and Non Commisioned Officer in charge of his company, a First Sergeant, told the Sergeeant he could stay home if he wanted to. the sergeant returned and his Company Commander and First Sergeant were bewildered and upset with him His response was that there was nothing for him at home except his only beloved child and daughter who hadn’t even made it to her third birthday lying dead six feet in the ground. He would rather deal with war and be around his comarades. He stayed the rest of the deployment until it was time to go home. He was a happy man until his daughter’s death through and through. Afterwards, even though he smiled and laughed you could still see the never ending extreme sadness and horror in him. His soldiers including my friend regarded him as a ticking time bomb for mental break down even though he never unecessarily lashed out.

    Then of course there was the soldier in my company who had a baby with his wife and she sent him streaming videos via internet of her having sex with other men while his baby son was in the house while I was in Iraq, and this man was 6 feet 5 inches and 250 pounds. Then while I was in Afghanistan, there was a soldier whom returned home on leave to find the boyfriend, lover and sex partner of his wife in a house he was renting. There are other such stories which are not as horrible too.

    The Army and Marine Corps. is a mess because of misandry and it is eating them alive. the Divorce rates are 75% and 70% respectively. The sucide rates are at all time highs and rising in the Army and Marine Corps. Over 70% of the sucides are because a man’s wife or girlfriend is leaving him while deployed to a war zone. She is almost always taking the kids if there are any and quite often( most of the time) depleting(legally stealing) his bank accounts too. She often enough cheating on him.

    This is your Amrican woman. Western and Civilized East Asian women are either just as bad or not too far behind. Afghan Muslim Taliban laws are too good for some, but not all of them. Marriage 1.0 needs to be restored with improvements if our civilization is to be saved, and this may not be enough. Taliban marriage laws are remarkably similar to Ancient Jewish laws and I call them Marriage 0.5. christianity adopted them and made them into Marriage 1.0. Even under Taliban or Jewish law a man is not allowed to kill his wife without sufficient reason and the government is usually the one to do it if they do it at all. Marriage 0.0 is the Ancient Roman Republic. Enforced monagamy with a man only being able to have one wife and everyone ignoring a husbands whoring or adultry was accepted in practice but frowned upon. Wives commiting adultry was totally unacceptable. There was also the matter of Pater Potentas, Father’s Power. A Husband and father had a right to kill his wife, children, slaves and freed slaves without reason. The government could not stop him. He could even do this in theory to an adult son with a family of his own and was elected to the Highest government office of Consul at least in theory. He could also kill his grandchildren or great grandchildren alonf with their wives, slaves and freed slaves. There was a reason why Rome Conquered the Jewsd and not the other way around and although enforced monagamy and Pater Potentas weren’t the only reasons, they were crucial. By the Empire the Romans moved to Marriage 0.5 and their empire fell. I would rather gor back to Marriage 1.0 with updates than Marriage 0.0 as I would hate to be a woman in those circimstances and as emotionally, morally appalled by it as a Christian Roman Catholic, but some American women are really asking for it.

    1. Unknown Lol March 12, 2014 at 2:26 pm

      If whenever something like that happened, the person that caused that was killed… the cases would be far in between.

      I hate violence. But one must do what one must do.

  80. Timothy October 19, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    doclove, first let me say thank you for your service…

    My understanding is that it isn’t uncommon for soldier’s wives to cheat on their husbands. They marry soldiers with the knowledge that he may be deployed for a long period of time somewhere around the world (and in the times we’re in now, it’s almost GUARANTEED that he’ll be sent into combat in Afghanistan), and yet after he’s deployed they’ll decide they can’t handle it. And the worst part is that they’ll usually cheat with another soldier, or someone else that knows him (which is a DOUBLE betrayal – dudes that do that should take a bullet when he comes home too). It’s as if she WANTS to humiliate him while he’s in the middle of hell. I can understand if she’s lonely, but find a guy on the other side of town that doesn’t know him. Keep it quiet. But they want to rub his nose in it, flaunt it, as if to punish him for having to be away and risking his life every day. Do what you need to to get through it, but don’t do something like send a man that’s in combat a video of you fucking another dude. I can’t begin to understand that…

  81. banned October 19, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    I gave you birth and I love you no matter what.

  82. banned October 19, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    That post about you and Polish WHORES made me sick to my stomach!! Next time don’t just THINK about using condoms but actually place them DIRECTLY on your PENIS. Or else I’ll fly out there and do it for you!!! AAAAaaaaaaaah!!! – Mrs. V.

  83. T&A Man October 19, 2011 at 9:45 pm


    What can I say. Situations which are heart rendering to an entire group of men. Men with honour and a sense of duty.

    I don’t care if it is beta, I will freely admit I shed a tear reading that, call it part of my humanity, but I will not forfeit it for pussy.

    I extend my heart to you and your fellow men in your marine battalion.

    Get the message out please, look after your bodies, look after your health, look after your inner game. There is too much potential being wasted.

  84. doesNotMatter October 19, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    What’s the matter with you? A million men would swap places with you without a second thought. Is it impossible for you to be happy? Can’t you just enjoy the sex? Jesus Christ………some guys!

  85. Dan Fletcher October 19, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    @79 doclove

    Good lord. Thank you for taking the time to write that. I am truly moved.

    Women must be subjugated. Anything else is folly.

  86. Samson October 19, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    Thank you Roosh for putting into words what is in all our hearts.

  87. Dan October 19, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    Its funny because this post expresses all of my thoughts since I started reading this blog 3 months ago. Up until then I had no idea what game was or that my behavior had more influence than anything else on the way girls treated me. In highschool I was exactly as Roosh described himself before picking up game; treating girls with respect and becoming their emotional tampon.

    Now, as a college student, my successes with women have told me I can only continue to change myself into someone I am not if I want to sleep with them. For that, I can do nothing but hate them.

  88. doesNotMatter October 20, 2011 at 1:05 am

    Hey Mr. DocLove, these soldiers who commit suicide…..i always wondered……Are they not angry? Poor Souls… looks like their sadness exceeds their anger. If they were angry, then they would take out a few people before they left. There are some very Good deeds to do in D.C. if one has decided to die anyway……near the capitol building…. don’t you know?…… .Just saying man!

  89. Lee Wrightson October 20, 2011 at 1:08 am

    Cliff’s right about one thing… i don’t think any of us would want to be transported back to the fifties, when a blowjob was considered kinky.

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  91. JoyStick October 20, 2011 at 4:28 am

    Roosh, you are my idol.

  92. Single Mother October 20, 2011 at 8:35 am

    What a whiny, self pitying post. If I was like you, I would have started a crusade against men at the age of 16, when a worthless asshole told me to kill myself and my unborn baby because he lusted after another girl he didn´t impregnate. He didn´t use condoms, period. I asked him, but he told me that he was barren.

  93. BTD October 20, 2011 at 9:26 am

    That’s a damn shame about how often that seems to happen to military men. I’d say you need to pass around word to all military men to order Bang and Day Bang and read up on game. You guys will have a better chance at spotting the signals of a woman about to stray, and if that happens, you guys will have the tools to get over it much faster and better. Best of luck to you. And thank you for what you do.


  94. Rob October 20, 2011 at 9:43 am

    Keep it up Roosh! Fuck the naysayers!

    My little brother is currently going through divorce hell with three little kids (7,4,1) when he found his wife banging the neighbor. He was a solid beta provider who LOVED her before that, let her stay at home and raise the kids, gave her EVERYTHING that he could… and still she stepped out. He’s dying inside, knowing that he still loves her and she not only no longer loves him, but DESPISES him.

    When they went to divorce court, he was incredulous, unbelieving that the woman he courted, loved and cared for for over ten years would instantly take a razor to his balls and rape him for everything in court. She brutalized him and degraded him in every way possible… all for loving her.

    There’s your American woman.

    The upside is that while I couldn’t warn him out of it, I’m bringing him around to game (Bang and Day Bang in the mail to him) and he’ll make a lesser alpha if not a solid alpha in no time (solid kid, good looks, decent job, former semi-pro athelete who doesn’t take shit from males and now WON’T take any more shit from females, thank God).

    You’re doing good work Roosh. Don’t doubt yourself.

  95. Donlak October 20, 2011 at 9:58 am

    Unfortunately I would expect women to stray… their completely selfish… it happened previous wars too, but it was done more covertly to avoid public shaming.
    I feel bad for the soldiers that have kids and fight over there… boy we need women to woman up don’t we?

    On a second note, it’s quite funny that comments by some insane women pop up through these serious comments – going on about Roosh whining and other nonsense. Women have no concept of awareness or abstract thought, let alone proper emotional maturity.

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:40 am

      It is correct that women must ‘women-up.’
      It should be women who teach other women, the future consequences of ruining a entire half of humanity.

  96. Lech Walesa October 20, 2011 at 10:06 am

    time to MAN UP, son!

  97. Samuel October 20, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Hey Roosh I get what you are saying here, of course. I truly do. There’s tons and tons of truth here.

    But you know what? I’d never say it this way- because I am in charge. We can blame the girls but really we don’t need to be at odds with them. The true Men with game don’t hate women- they love women. Yes, it’s a shame that we have to play the cold aloof bullshit and ration out affection when we’d like to just let it flow more freely. Yes, we have to run a shitty attitude to overcome girls’ shitty attitudes.

    But you see, I am a Dominant.

    As a Dom, I run the fucking show. Things are how the fuck I SAY they are. Yeah, I hate feminism, yeah, I want to leave America, yeah, I have to express myself differently than I would normally… but let’s not concern ourselves with defending ourselves to these women, or putting the blame on them for the things they are complaining about, when they regard us as villains.

    Just be a MAN, do your thing, and don’t worry too much about the chicks who complain. Some folks will never get it, no matter how obvious it is, or how hard you try to explain. It is the natural position of leaders and alpha males to be hated on for their ways. If you are going to live an alpha life, you must not only accept it, but accept it without complaint. Kings don’t bitch and moan… they just handle their business. Kings don’t blame others, they just handle their business.

    Also, you should be aware (I imagine you are) that it is possible to be an alpha male AND keep a girl and be in love with her. You can have a girl that you’re with for years who will still throw herself at your feet with love and desire.

    You can run game good enough to get the sex… but the REAL game is to run it so well you get inside their heads and have them become your servant. Then you can reward them for their good behavior.. and discipline then when you wish.. which they will also regard as love, and become addicted to.

    It’s true that being a Dominant is more work than just being a PUA… but I think it is the best way to have your cake and eat it too… so that we can be the way we know we must… and still have something lasting.

    Either way… just handle your business and walk with greatness. The King himself IS the castle.

  98. Anon October 20, 2011 at 10:29 am


    Dudes in the military shouldn’t have wives.

    When you sign up, you need to accept that you are already dead — you will be sent wherever, whenever, for however long, to kill random brown people and die or get maimed for the whims of corrupt politicians and the enrichment of corporate owners. All under the guise of freedom.

    You are the beta of the beta. It’s not like you’re an American revolutionary who has picked up arms to fight & die for a personal cause. Most enlistees today are just boys looking for an escape from their fucked up lives.

    Hell, the military is helping Afghan druglords ship heroin to America in exchange for their help against the Taliban. Right now, you have USGS teams digging around Afghanistan for the $1,000,000,000,000 worth of gems that’s lying around. That’s what it’s about.

    Most military wives are just townies looking for a way out, even if it means hitching up with an enlisted man for the time being. Private, grunt, or dog, women are in tune to the low rank of enlisted men even if they were initially attracted. Nothing says beta than snapping to attention to some other man and having yourself used as canon fodder and dying for some cause you don’t even fully understand.

    Low rank + being away for years at time = wife getting revenge over having to settle. That’s how the female brain works.

  99. Anonymous October 20, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Sweet baby Rooshie, please, tell me how to attract and keep an alpha. You’ve no idea how hard it is for women: we can’t have alhpas, but won’t have betas. WTF are we supposed to do now? If I attract an alpha and make him happy, everyone wins, right?

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:44 am

      There is plenty on Return of Kings website for a smart woman to learn from. It is all there.
      There is naught hard about being a woman, if you understand how men are biologically different from women, how their brains work differently, and how you as a woman, are not like a man.

  100. Timothy October 20, 2011 at 11:51 am

    “What a whiny, self pitying post. If I was like you, I would have started a crusade against men at the age of 16, when a worthless asshole told me to kill myself and my unborn baby because he lusted after another girl he didn´t impregnate. He didn´t use condoms, period. I asked him, but he told me that he was barren.” 92 Single Mother

    Now who’s whining? You made a choice – you decided to have unprotected sex with an asshole. You wanted to fuck him, so you were willing to buy anything he told you. Pregnancy isn’t the only consequence of unprotected sex, and you were willing to risk THAT too. I’ve always believed that any woman that allows a man to squirt inside of her WANTS to get pregnant, because otherwise you wouldn’t allow it. You’d say no. You don’t ASK a guy to put on a condom, you TELL him to. Women are the ones that have babies, and are the ones that usually have to take care of them. That isn’t necessarily “fair,” but that’s the truth. If you don’t want a kid, it’s a woman’s responsibility to make sure it doesn’t happen. Instead of a crusade against men, take some personal responsibility.

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:47 am

      I read that once, not sure where- if your going to have sex, you must take responsibility that sex leads to babies. Always. Otherwise, you are a fool.

      ” You don’t ASK a guy to put on a condom, you TELL him to.”

      This is a excellent example of being sensible, and manly. I admire this.

  101. Anonymous October 20, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    You’ve no idea how hard it is for women: we can’t have alhpas, but won’t have betas. WTF are we supposed to do now?

    Gee, how ironic, here is one of your “sumptuous’ sistas” with the very same problem –

    Is that you by any chance in the ad?!?

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:50 am

      How any woman’s first request wouldn’t be for a man who is intelligent, well read, and interested in furthering his mind- is a mystery to me.
      A man can always get a makeover or a job to make money/buy things. He cannot always gain knowledge, sensibility and wisdom, unless he himself is actively seeking such.
      But what would I know. Im skinny.

  102. Anonymous October 20, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    Is that you by any chance in the ad?!?

    Haha. No. You wish. 🙂

  103. Anonymous October 20, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Haha. No. You wish. 🙂

    Mmmm hmmm….. it’s you indeed 😉

  104. doclove October 20, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    @ Timothy
    Thankyou for the kind response. I’m out of the Army now after 8 years with an honorable dicharge. What you say is so true.
    A friend in my company to Iraq was the son of a battalion Sergeant Major as well as his wife was the daughter of a battalion Sergeant Major. Both were military brats and knew what the life was about much as you described. The two families knew eachother and if not friends were at least friendly acquaintances. She cheated on him and depleted their savings with what he thought was his best friend from elementary school, a civilian womanizer extordinaire while taking(stealing) all of his savings after being more of a cheapskate than him. she also trashed the apartment the Army gave them money to rent. He was harrassed by another friend until I convinced him to stop. He was married too. I told friend 2 to thank his lucky stars that his wife wasn’t doing him in like friend 1. Friend 2 was incredulous thinking he had a good wife. Friend 1 divorces the wife after being abandoned by here after the Iraqi deployment.

    All three of us deploy to Afghanistan after some time home. Friend 2 returns on Rest and recuperation leave from Afghanistan to find his wife stoned out of her mind with another man in the soldier’s apartment bed, and a 13 year old male middleschool student passed out underneath his baby’s crib. The other man brought the boy in to see if he could get him laid with the soldiers wife. She depleted his bank funds and trashed his home too. He files for divorce immediately.

    @ Roosh
    Feel free to reprint and comment on this too.

  105. Well said R. Weedall October 20, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    Roosh, you made this bed. Stop whining. You are utterly blind to the fact that worthwhile women can smell your “game” miles away. To accurately measure the success of your game, offset the number of women you’ve bedded with the number who thought you were a freak when you tossed some bitchy non sequitur their way. You’ve pre-selected yourself right into a pit of despair. Get a life.

  106. doclove October 20, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    @ T&A Man
    I’m out of the Army now. I try to get the word out with this site, the author Roosh’s buddy—Hertiste’s(Roissy’s or Citizen Renegade’s site) and others. I do the best I can trying to learn Game. Thanks.

  107. doclove October 20, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    @ Dan Fletcher
    Thankyou for responding. Would you say you are a proponet of some updated variation of the Ancient Roman Republic Marriage 0.0 or a knider gentler but better and more updated version of Marriage 1.0, just curious?

  108. doclove October 20, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    @ doesNotMatter
    I would say that they are sadder than angry when they kill themselves. Saddness or despair is anger turned in itself in my opinion. Finding themselves unable to lash out at their persecutors for whatever the reason even if it is a figment of their imagination causes them to despair. Thanks for asking.

  109. doclove October 20, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    @ BTD
    I try to pass the word along wherever I go and I feel it appropriate and safe to do so. I’m out of the Army now after 8 years with an honorable discharge. Thanks.

  110. JST October 20, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    It’s interesting. I’ve lived in Taiwan for almost three months now. I left California a broken mess and with a broken heart.

    The girls here are a world apart. Most of them do not sleep around and only have 2-3 boyfriends their whole lives. They take their relationships seriously here, so that means they respect and love the men in their lives. I’ve been seeing a girl “casually” (I don’t sleep with her, but I do tease her and “spank” her in a playful way), and wow she’s wonderful.

    She asks me if I’ve eaten or if I feel cold. She’s offered to pay for my drinks so far, even while I told her that I’ll pay my own.

    I left the States a cold, broken guy straight out of college and cynical about relationships and women. My ex-gf left me because she didn’t feel the ‘gina tingles enough, so she just left my ass. I treated her with love and respect, and I was willing to make the relationship work. Keep in mind, she’s more “traditional” for an American girl (She’s from a fairly strict Chinese background), but even these girls get corrupted by feminism. It only takes one white, liberal feminist cunt to corrupt even the most traditional, pure women in America.

    My experience here has shaken me so much that I actually want to treat women (Taiwanese women) like human beings with feelings. I actually want to respect and love them, even though I’ve thoroughly trained myself to be cold and aloof with women now.

    Men, if you can get out of the US and find your women in non-Western countries. There are far better women out there.

    1. Odile Lee May 29, 2016 at 9:17 pm

      Being taught respect for men, is a very good thing for women, as well as men.

  111. Anonymous October 20, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    What a bunch of whiny little bitches, LOL Of course I can smell your pathetic “game” a mile away. I ask one simple Q: “What do you do for a living?” And the response better not be some noise about “writing,” “traveling,” or, hahahha, “blogging.”

  112. doclove October 20, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    @ Anon
    I agree that men in the military shouldn’t have wives especially if they are in the Army or Marine Corps. because they are even crazier worlds than the Navy and Air Force, and the Navy and Air force are crazy enough. The Army and Marine Corps. are crazier especially now. If you think you see lunacy in the civilian world try anything in the military world, you haven’t seen anything yet. And the lower ranked they are the worse of an idea it becomes because you have NO STATUS!!! i never married and told this to soldiers, but most are to foolish to listen much as I love them. I can’t disagree with you on how the female brain works.

    You’re right the the military can betaize you if you’re not careful. But if after you’re torn down, and decide to rebuild yourself, you can be the most Alpha of men. Sadly some men never even try to alpha up.I’ve never been asked by a man if I killed or shot anyone. the worst a man will say id if I saw any action. Killers or potential killers make women’s ginas tingle. They’re not a good question to ask as some veeterans will become upset for you asking, but women tingle for killers. Look at all the love letters Anders Behring Brievik is getting from young women and teenage females after he slaughtered plenty of male and female teenagers.

    Two time recipient of the Medal of Honor and Major General(2 star) of the Marine Corps. Smedley Butler gave “War is a Racket” Speech in the 1930s while losing a Pennsylvania Senate race. Many of us figure it out. You’re right that many are trying to straiten out their lives by joining the military. Many would have been happier to work in the factory and been better off for it, bit wait that factory job is overseas now. What other choice did they have? You should spend your time repeating the pharase whether you believe in God or not, ” But for Grace of God not to be served a manure sanwich like that guy, there go I eating it.” You may have planned and executed well, and I say congratulations. You nwere also lucky. Many aren’t lucky nor dothey necessarily know what they are doing. Don’t ridicule them, feel fortunate not to be them, and realize you could be in worse straits through no fault of your own one day. Though I have no wish to harm you, a beta, an omega or even an alpha or a women with a knife and loaded gun can castrate you and kill your family before your eyes and make you into a blubbering omega. The Southwest Asian and Central Asian people do this to eachother all the time and other evil things too. You are not immune. I’m not immune. Noone is.

  113. southern belle October 20, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    I think it’s great that weak men who can’t handle real, empowered women as their equals are leaving the country. You guys shouldn’t just read this while nodding in agreement in your basement, – you should consider following master Roosh’s example!

    Luckily, there are plenty of hottie Brazilian students where I live 😉

  114. Phinn October 20, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    >>> What a bunch of whiny little bitches, LOL Of course I can smell your pathetic “game” a mile away. I ask one simple Q: “What do you do for a living?” And the response better not be some noise about “writing,” “traveling,” or, hahahha, “blogging.”

    Yeah, you seem like a real catch.

    Do you meet a lot of betas qualifying themselves to you? Do you find them lacking after a while?

    Thought so.

  115. y7o October 20, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    YOU did this to yourself! Losers, stop blaming others for your problems!

  116. Anonymous October 20, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    Reading doclove’s posts reminds me of something about the Vietnam War, one of the real reasons it finally ended was the threatened mutiny by much of the US armed forces. The soldiers had had enough. Not something admitted in US history books but it happened.

    The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will end when the same thing happens, not because the American voters or politicians will come to their senses.

  117. Retrenched October 20, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    So many feminist/white knight trolls, totally (probably intentionally) missing the point.

    Roosh is NOT saying, “I hate you (women) for being mean to me and ruining my life.”

    Roosh is saying, “This is what I am, because this is what you (women) wanted me to be. This is what I had to become in order to get your attention and affection. To get what I wanted from you, I had to give you what you wanted from me. Here we are.”

  118. Anonymous October 20, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    When I read this post, I was reminded of this quote made by Gemma Morrow, a female character in the t.v. show Sons of Anarchy, in response to the manipulative machinations of another female character: “this is why mothers drown baby girls.”

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:52 am

      well done!

  119. Well said R. Weedall October 20, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    Oh poor baby Roosh wants to be petted by all the cute ladies.. One quality woman is not good enough for baby Roosh. Because baby Roosh doesn’t get exactly what he wants from all women, women suck! Wah!

  120. Timothy October 20, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    Yeah…it’s funny how this post has brought out all the fake tough guys and trolls. I find people either have poor reading comprehension, an inability to grasp the context within which something is written, or they are simply selective – they latch onto a few words they disagree with and go off on a tangent. Which is generally how women debate or respond to a point. It hardly sounds like whining to discuss how you identified a problem, identified a solution, applied it and got results you are satisfied with, and have set out to help others do the same. It’s also baffling how some believe you can’t be critical of something, yet still enjoy, like or even love it.

  121. Squared October 20, 2011 at 5:15 pm


    Come on, don’t be so hard on the wimminz. Their poor wittle hamsters are working overtime already.

  122. Squared October 20, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    By the way roosh, care to identify the primary shithole the whiteknight-wimminz coalition is crawling out of?

    [Roosh: “Well said R. Weedall” is posting from Washington DC. So surprising.]

  123. Me October 20, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    The trolls are annoying as crap. I’m an avid reader of this blog even though i’m a girl. I’ve lived all over the world and hate when we had to come back. Everything roosh and others say about american women is true…..sure i’m an american woman but do i act like one? NOPE (thank the lord haha)

    and @ doclove, my father before he married my mom went through the same stuff with his first wife. He went off to the military and she became a crackhead and lied to him and his first son turned out not to be his, he got their house burned down and other stuff. he divorced her and married my mom (ex coastguard) and then his ex wife had his info and put over 200k worth of debt and charges in his name. he almost got kicked out and they garnished his check at the time, then ontop of that my mom had to get 3 other jobs just to stay alfoat. My dad honestly wanted to kill himself but, i’m glad he didnt. Thanks for spreading the message when you can. I truly appreciate it.

  124. Jezebel Cindy October 20, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    That’s right, leave America, all you good-for-nothing bums! Real women need real men who can keep up, not you!

  125. Lee Wrightson October 20, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    I was going to say something very similar to what Retrenched said but he beat me to it. Roosh isn’t acting the victim. He’s saying that he will be the user instead of the used… and it’s no ones fault but womens.
    I think that he should have titled the post “You made me this way” instead of ” You did this to me”.
    On a side note… I had tacos for lunch… now I have a stomache ache… fucking tacos

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:54 am

      He made himself. He is no passive victim. The title is very apt.

  126. Timothy October 20, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    Be careful what you wish for, Jizzabell Cindy. Are those cats I hear? MEOW!

  127. P. Bateman October 20, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    I’m not surprised this post is seeing a rise in comment activity, thanks in large part to trolls.

    This is not whining. This is simply explaining the solution to a problem men are faced with today when dating women.

    When I tell my mother the way women are these days, she is baffled. She said to me “I married and still am with your father to this day because he was a nice guy”. I grew up in what was a normal household with parents who had a strong relationship. My dad didn’t pretend to be some bad boy, he didn’t act hot/cold. My family was traditional but it worked. My mother never played games with my father or her two sons. She was always honest. Always trustworthy. I never had issues with women growing up.

    Then I got out in the real world as an adult and realized I grew up in a fantasy world. I quickly had to adjust. The wake up call was when I got kicked out of high school and a girl was guilty of the same offence, but didn’t get kicked out herself. Not to mention my first serious girlfriend cheated on me around the same time.

    Fourteen years later and I have never been the same since. I don’t want to go back though, because then I will end up like countless other guys I know that are in controlling relationships (they aren’t the ones in control) who are miserable. Or worse, just read some of these stories in these comments (doclove, thank you for all you do and those are some awful tragedies, just awful). The situation with women hasn’t been the same since I was 18, it’s just gotten worse…exponentially worse actually.

    Women nowadays don’t reward the “nice” behaviour I saw my father display with my mother. So men have to change. Women don’t like it, but oddly enough, they can’t even recognize what it is they like, so their behaviour continues. Some women have recognized their actions (some too late), but if you happen to find one of these girls she may be worth marrying. But that is like finding a needle in a haystack.

    1. Guesr April 18, 2014 at 5:36 am

      The American women who are the veritable needle in the haystack are like me – quiet, shy, brainy (honor classes & ambitious), bad dancer so doesn’t like clubs, girl next door looks / not flashy, modestly dressed, former babysitter who loves kids, doesn’t curse, loves Pride & Prejudice, bookworm, Christian, Catholic school education, likes going to church, late bloomer (first kiss as a HS senior), wallflower in HS, closet romantic, nonsmoker/no drugs, had secret crushes, liked shy smart guys who are sweet, saving herself for marriage, a real virgin (not the everything but type), who dates a man a few times but ends it if she doesn’t see marriage potential, who suggests coffee dates for first couple of dates to not feel guilty about spending his money while she’s figuring him out, who doesn’t kiss until maybe 3rd date earliest, who was unceremoniously dumped for not putting out… Problem is that a girl like me has been made to feel weird, strange, shamed, prudish, religious fanatic, quixotic for sticking to my guns about my traditional beliefs (by the way, earning a professional degree to support myself, my future family is part of my values – Proverbs 31 wife works hard & conducts a profitable business to help support her household).

      1. Guest April 18, 2014 at 5:44 am

        I guess what I want to say is that many American men want to only date a hot Ginger & overlook wholesome Maryanne. They expect Ginger to act like a Maryanne too. When I date, I look for the male version of Maryanne, not a Ginger man, because I want husband material.

      2. Odile Lee May 29, 2016 at 8:54 pm

        Perhaps, but it doesnt mean that a good man who truly loves a woman, will not change. Women should not expect change, that is foolish. But Ive had proof this excists.

      3. Odile Lee May 29, 2016 at 8:52 pm

        The King James bible states, old testament- A virtuous woman is worth more than rubies. I am no longer a Christian, but that does not negate truth as it is written. More so for the age of the statement. If it rings true, after all this time one cannot deny that surely it must be for a very good reason.

    2. Odile Lee May 29, 2016 at 8:49 pm

      Thank you for sharing. As said before, faces need to be put to stories. This illustrates a general idea Roosh writes of, and gives further meaning to the content. The more what has been hidden is revealed, the deeper the reality of what one man states.

  128. Me October 20, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Jezebel Cindy,

    Jeez, choose a better name thanx and stop trollin.

  129. G October 20, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    That was an incredible piece of writing – because it was so raw and honest.

    You wrote what I have been feeling for years. It weighs down the soul to try to be something other than what you truly are.

  130. T&A Man October 20, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Jezebel Cindy, #124, you say

    “Real women need real men who can keep up, not you!”

    What makes you think you, and those like you are real women? As opposed to women elsewhere in the world?

    Fat, loud mouthed and overweight, versus thin, nurturing and kind. It isn’t a difficult choice to pick the ‘real woman’

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 11:56 am

      Thank goodness for that!

  131. Anonymous October 20, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    I like Roosh’s game and travel advice a lot but these pity posts are flat-out lame. Roosh got into game the same reason all of us guys do, to get laid more with hotter women. Roosh’s books are selling well, he’s making loot and swimming in pussy. Life is good. No need to play the part of the innocent victim with a broken-heart-of-gold. I know Roosh is reading over these comments and giggling at the food-fight he just created here, lol.

  132. Anti Blue pill October 20, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Don’t feed the Fem-matrix Troll,they’re very butthurt :a2m:

  133. Moses October 20, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    What Roosh writes is true.

    The only change I would make is to the tone. Roosh seems to imply that women make these choices and “did this to him” consciously.

    They didn’t.

    Women do not know what they are or why they do what they do. It is no fault of theirs.

    Reality is not as we wish it to be. It is not rainbows and unicorns. Reality is often harsh, ugly and unpleasant.

    Deny reality and it automatically will work against you and bring pain. Accept reality and make it work for you.

    I harbor no more illusions about women. I now see them clearly for what they are. I still love them. But now reality and women’s nature works for me.

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 12:00 pm

      I don’t agree. Ive known of women who are proud to be the sort of bad woman Roosh writes about.
      Taking away their fault, is white knighting. Women don’t need that. Its infantilzation, which will make things worse.
      Yes, there are lots of women who have no idea they are brainwashed. If its this you speak of, I understand your choice.
      But this doesn’t change the fact there are harpies out there that will happily rip of parts of your anatomy, your soul, and your manhood, and laugh while they eat them.

  134. Anonymous October 20, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    Jezebel Cindy, #124, you say

    “Real women need real men who can keep up, not you!”

    What makes you think you, and those like you are real women? As opposed to women elsewhere in the world?

    Fat, loud mouthed and overweight, versus thin, nurturing and kind. It isn’t a difficult choice to pick the ‘real woman’

    *Eh, someday Jeze an alpha will at least deign to pump-n-dump your fat ass – and you’ll be ever so eternally grateful for the few minutes he spends with you (before he bails out on you before sunrise – and eats all the food in your fridge – which you probably have lots and lots of)

  135. Anonymous October 21, 2011 at 12:10 am

    What a bunch of whiny little bitches, LOL Of course I can smell your pathetic “game” a mile away.

    Uh huh, you can “smell” game from a “mile away” but curiously enough you cannot smell the much, much stronger oder wafting from south of your naval — which many of us can surely smell from far more away than a mile…

  136. фкн October 21, 2011 at 12:15 am

    @ 92 Single Mother

    So you like asholes?

  137. Anti Blue pill October 21, 2011 at 12:22 am

    @138 She like’s ass to mouth,trust me.

  138. Dave October 21, 2011 at 12:49 am

    Regarding doclove’s post –

    That’s horrific, I haven’t witnessed anything on that level yet, being an Marine officer candidate, but one day I was hanging around the recruitment office when I bought up marriage during a chat with a Marine. He told me I was insane to get married any time soon and that if I have a GF now I should go and dump her ASAP. He was dead serious about it, and I didn’t really understand, until he shared with me some stories.

    The one that stuck with me the most was how one of his Privates married a stripper, who cheated on him while he was in Afghanistan. When he got back, he went crying to the Staff Sergeant about it, who told him basically he was a moron for marrying a stripper. The point of the story, the Marine told me, was that you sincerely need to watch who you marry and use common sense. In the military, you can get tons of girls easily, but you are looking for a diamond in the rough.

    The Marines emphasized that you cannot settle on a woman unless she’s essentially perfect. Both of the Marines at the station are married and have great wives, but one’s wife is an ex-Marine (so she understands what the men go through and seems to be an excellent woman). They both found rare women. I would say that even if you are not joining the military, it behooves you to wait and look for this great woman you can really trust before you get married. No one is perfect, but, you have to find a woman who is WORTHY of you.

    After evaluating my ex-GF I dumped her. She was a liberal feminist. Now I exclusively look for conservative and religious. If a woman can submit to God, then that’s a good sign she will make a good wife. Women like this are rare and I only meet a few a year worth dating, but I don’t care if I have to stay single forever, I am not marrying anything but one of those diamonds in the rough who won’t screw the neighbor while I’m in a warzone like a Suzy Rottencrotch. Meanwhile, I’m glad I read this blog and others like it, because my recruiters said that officers these days need to know a thing or two about relationship advice because of all the women-caused-emotional-trauma WCET one will have to deal with among their men.

  139. Mig Mack October 21, 2011 at 2:14 am

    The landwhales and manatees of America can’t stand the idea that men that are not super good looking do not want to fuck them.

    They will never stop shaming, they want guys like Roosh and his readers trapped in the American Sex Prison. They want to fall back on those men when they’ve hit the wall at 30 after the cock carousel ride and no alpha wants them.

    We don’t want you.
    Here’s your future, American women looking for “Real Men”:

  140. Yeahhhh October 21, 2011 at 2:29 am

    @ 141 Mig Mag and all people that assume everything on this site.

    Yes because all American women are “landwhales and manatees”
    Not sure where you live in the US but that is not the case where I am living or have lived in America.

  141. InterestedParty October 21, 2011 at 2:57 am

    Great post. But missing one thing — a thank you.
    You should thank them for making you a far more capable person than you were before.

    I often think back to where I would have ended up if “everything came easy” and I shudder a bit. A bit of struggle is good.

  142. doclove October 21, 2011 at 3:48 am

    @ Dave
    Hey brother, and you are my brother because you joined even though you’re an officer, and I was enlisted, you are a Marine, and I was a Soldier, you are currently serving and haven’t deployed yet, and I’m out of the service and have deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan for both surges, please listen to me. I mean you no harm and only want good things for you even though we never met and most likely will never meet. Cover your ass!!!

    It is a bad idea for even a civilian to get married. It is an extremely bad idea for military especially Soldiers and Marines to get married. The divorce rate for the Army and Marine Corps for new marriages is at 75% and 70% respectively. The sucide rates in the Army surpassed the Marines for the first time in history this past decade. Both Army and Marine Corps suicides are sky high and at their highest ever in recorded history and still rapidly rising. The Marines are doing a little better because they have shorter deployments than the Army. Misandry and these rotten women who have relationships with our brothers in arms is literally destroying both services from within and eating these men alive. At least 70% of the men who commit suicide do so because their girlfriend or wife is leaving them while deployed often taking the house and money while cheating on them. While you’re in the military especially the Army and Marine Corps., it’s an extremely bad idea to even attempt a family life with a wife and children. Under no circumstances get married before you deploy, and I’ll tell you why in the next paragraph.

    When you deploy to the war zone, and it’s virtually certain you will, YOU WILL RETURN A CHANGED MAN. I guarantee it. You will be changed even if you are a fobbit(an office worker who never leaves installation in the war zone unless you fly over it), and never think otherwise. You will be more changed if you go outside on a vehicle and nothing happens. If you get into combat, you will be changed even more. You will question everything about yourself, others in your life, and the meaning of life in general, and whether God really cares about you at all during and after the deployment. I still love myself and loved ones and God, but I’m a changed man. Many return estranged from everyone in their lives. Some return crazy as in clinically crazy. Most others seem socially but not clinically crazy even if it is to a small degree after coming home.

    I’ve seen Soldiers foolishly marry strippers and get taken for everything they’ve had too. Your “normal” women usually aren’t any better no matter how much you think they are including conservative religious types. Since 1965 marriage has become virtual slavery for men. So has impregnating women with or without marriage too.

    If you stay long enough, and some units are better than others, you will see fraterization between the higher ranking men and lower ranking women even if it is “perfectly legal” such as an Army Sergeant First Class fucking a Navy Petty officer Third Class or an Army Private First Class from another battalion. It disgusts me. Most women in the military are nothing more than trouble. They will go status whoring with their higher ranking boyfriends and try to use them to play let’s you and him fight with men who are lower ranking and they don’t like. Women will also try to fuck their way to getting higher rank. Most military men have more negative views of women than when they first come in. Many military men also start thinking of women as nothing better than cum recepticles or whores even if they are too polite or too afraid to say it.

    Family life and the military DO NOT MIX WELL TOGETHER especially in the Army and Marine Corps. Some make a go of it and it’s a at the very least a minor miracle. Don’t ever think God either loves you enough or if he truly loves you more than you know that it’s in his plan to grant you the miracle of a stable happy family life in the miltary. I believe in God and love Him, but I notice He often has a tendency to allow those He most loves to suffer horrifying agony and loss like Job and Jesus to test their mettle. These men often die broken after months, years and decades of unbelieveable pain.

    You like I once before you have chosen a very harsh life. I can not emphasize this enough. Military units are like families in many respects, but they are extremely dysfunctional to say the least. Not even the police are as much of a family nor as dysfunctional as a family as the military. It’s rank “insanity”. The military can be and too often does have too many political screwjob games and dog and pony shows rahter than getting the job done right. Image is too often more important than functionality. Let others you trust in the military read or hear what I’ve written on this and the above commentaries, and listen to what they say. Thankyou for your service and best wishes.

  143. omega-77 October 21, 2011 at 5:07 am

    in life, you can be either:
    – puppet of the society around you. victim of other peoples thoughts and emotions
    – creator of your own reality, leader or so called “alpha” who emanates his own energy onto surrounding beings.
    an example of the creator type: tony robbins.

    women behaviour is just a mirror of your fears and desires. if one night stands is what you truly want- you’ll get it sooner or later. you’ll surround or attract girls who expect the same.

    if you want open, relaxed, bi-sexual, easy going, sexy, not loving money or fame, with little ego and a big heart WOMAN – she will come to you, when your entire self will demand such a girl.

    Don’t focus your feelings on poor bad american cunts.
    Focus on what you truly want and it will come.
    See Jesse Charger blog- he emanates super positive writings towards women and its probably what he receives back.

  144. omega-77 October 21, 2011 at 5:24 am

    I had to make a comment on doclove stories.
    I feel extremely sorry for military men.
    You’re victims of your masters- politicians AND your own fears.
    It is your choice: work for society as a soldier or do something else: write books, sell food, build houses. Do you know Henry Kissinger’s opinion on military men?
    Without millions of young men willing to join the military… politicians could not rage wars.
    And for Christ sakes – women are sexual beings.
    If you’re out for 2 years to fight pointless, phony wars to earn money for yourself and military industrial complex – fine, but your women is in need for love, sex, hugging, holidays, kissing and giggling.

    If you’re weak everyone will screw you- your wife, fiance, your boss, officer, lawyer, doctor, manager. Look at Mike Tyson. $300M fortune gone to lawyers, evil Don King and all kinds of women.
    He has strong muscles but weak personality.
    Your doctor will kill you to make money on drugs he puts in your body.
    Bush, Kissinger, Rumsfeld and Chenney own businesses. Their goal is to make $$$ on wars. They don’t care whether you’ll be dead or your wife will cheat on you.

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  146. Ubermind October 21, 2011 at 6:21 am

    While I am sorry for military men I must harden my heart and say that this is their own fault.

    Nobody forced them to go and kill muslim men in the name of feminism. So karma found the shortest path back to them.

    The only excuse they have is that they were dumb. And who among us has never been a dumb AFC?

  147. Kona October 21, 2011 at 8:43 am

    Doclove, I’m calling bullshit.

    Of course I’m going to throw up some facts to back this up but my first reason folks are just gonna have to trust me on.

    I spent a great deal of my life in Iraq and Afghan. When I was there, I heard those horrible divorce stories you typed up as many times as I heard that “Let The Bodies Hit The Floor” song. The kid under the crib’s age usually ranges in age from about 10 to 16.

    Those are just stories guys tell for whatever reason. Now I’ll put some facts behind some of your nonsense:

    “The Army and Marine Corps. is a mess because of misandry and it is eating them alive. the Divorce rates are 75% and 70% respectively.” – Doclove

    If you figure there’s 1.1 million active/guard/reserve under the Army umbrella and 240,00 active/reserve Marines. The numbers you made up would mean there are 825,00 and 168,00 divorces per branch, respectively?

    It’s under 5% across the board my man:

    “I’m a 43 year old White Gentile man raise Christian & Catholic, and am an U.S. Army Veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan.” – Doclove

    Thats in your first post.

    In #104 you write “I’m out of the Army now after 8 years with an honorable dicharge.” Then you write about your trip to Iraq and tell the story about the SGM’s son. You go on in next paragraph to talk about your trip to Afghan AFTER your OEF-I deployment.

    That’s where you screw up. You know the war in Afghanistan started BEFORE the one in Iraq, right? Afghan started 10/01 and 03/03 Iraq got going.

    So if you’ve been out 8 years, the soonest you could have been back was 03/04. I can see you consider that 8 years, but then you turn around and head to Afghan, for what is most likely another year?

    Myself, and every guy I know who served, remember the exact day and year they got out for at least the first 15 after.

    To add to that, you tell the most common story out there about the guy who shoots himself in the portapotty so his wife can get his gratuity and SGLI. Well, that 800k figure you put out there is way too high. EVERY single man going into combat knows EXACTLY how much his spouse has coming when he goes in. I don’t need to talk about the reasons why.

    If you’ve been out 8 years, or even 7 or six, you would know that max you could have received pre-2005 was maybe 225k. Here’s a website for future reference:

    One more thing: You left out the part of that story where the guy’s wife winds up getting nothing because HE SHOT HIMSELF IN A PORTAPOTTY!

    All that being said, have you been out 8 years, or 7, or 6, or do you just not remember? Wait, this is the internet so let me guess. You were a Green Beret who only needed to be in country at the beginning of the wars to laze targets and gather intel. Then you were off running black-ops (that’s a video game too) in places you can’t talk about until 8 years ago, right?

    Doclove, you hopped on the internet and told some lies. That’s ok.

    Rooshv’s post was about American women and they’re bullshit. You threw up tmilitary wives. You told 10 of the most common stories out there about them, and said 70% of military folks get divorces because of their evil ways.

    Now that everybody knows you lied, let me say something. Military wives are the wrong group of women to go after. Sure there’s some bad ones, but knowing the true divorce rate now, please understand they are one of the small groups of American girls that deserve some respect.

    I just re-read you last post about families and the military and you and your religion. I could call you out on a ton of other things, but you are an asshole. Families, not your Jesus, are what hold the military together. Your bullshit about combat and changed men is an insult.

    Do me a favor, Doclove. Make up a story in your head about a group of guys laying in a hole outside Fallujah waiting for bullets to start flying again. Do you think those guys are bitching about their divorces, or do you think their looking at pictures of their wife and kids?

    I could go on for hours, but nobody’s gonna read this anyway.

    If you do Doclove, just tell me what you get out of making all that crap up?


  148. Timothy October 21, 2011 at 10:29 am

    Kona…I think you misread doclove’s posts. He was IN for 8 years, and now he’s out with an honorable discharge. I don’t know about the facts in the rest of your post, but you got that one wrong.

  149. Anonymous October 21, 2011 at 11:05 am

    Timothy #100: “Now who’s whining? You made a choice – you decided to have unprotected sex with an asshole. You wanted to fuck him, so you were willing to buy anything he told you. Pregnancy isn’t the only consequence of unprotected sex, and you were willing to risk THAT too. I’ve always believed that any woman that allows a man to squirt inside of her WANTS to get pregnant, because otherwise you wouldn’t allow it. You’d say no. You don’t ASK a guy to put on a condom, you TELL him to. Women are the ones that have babies, and are the ones that usually have to take care of them. That isn’t necessarily “fair,” but that’s the truth. If you don’t want a kid, it’s a woman’s responsibility to make sure it doesn’t happen. Instead of a crusade against men, take some personal responsibility.”

    Well, I was 16, naive – and a *virgin*. A child, basically. And I believed myself in love with this “asshole”. I didn´t want to “fuck” him. At least not that early. I wanted to keep him: he said that he would leave me if I didn´t sleep with him. At first he was very persistant in pursuing me, mature, loving, friendly … As I gave in, he showed me his true colors. I knew that he would never take the responsibility for this child, and I couldn´t raise her or him on my own, my parents wouldn´t have helped me if I had kept the child, so I had to get an abortion.
    What excuse has Roosh?
    Most humans are egoists. Men and women alike. Gullible, “good” people often fall by the wayside. But there´s no reason to judge a “species” by it´s individuals. I have been happily married now for 12 years.

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 12:05 pm

      No one needs a excuse to protect themselves from abuse.

      So you are saying basically, since YOU could be as you are- HE should also.
      Isn’t that rather primitive thinking?
      It is children that think simply because they think something, it must be.
      This is not even a argument. There are no facts.

  150. P. Bateman October 21, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    To anonymous @ 150:

    I don’t hear one iota of personal accountability in your retort. This is exactly the problem. I just hear you justifying your reasons and the typical “whoa is me”. Yes, you were young. But you screwed up.

    I’m good, I never fell by the wayside. All of my guy friends are good, they never fell by the wayside. There are some guys that may have that I once knew, but I don’t hang out with them. For good reason, just like I don’t marry any woman who is like those guys I don’t roll with (and that is almost every girl I’ve ever met).

    Countless women my friends and I have been with have all made dumb decisions somewhere along the way…to which we laugh and shake our heads…because we know they justified their behaviour then and they will continue to do so, so the cycle continues. This is why we don’t marry. I don’t know you, you may have changed. However, your justification and pathetic ramble about how bad this guy was shows me you likely never learned the real lesson yourself. I’m sure he was an ass, there’s no doubting that. The excuses however, they are so telling.

  151. doclove October 21, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    @ Aloha
    You are a piece of human shit, and it’s an insult to me and maybe others on this board to call you human. I’ve offered the best advice possibly could for those who want to serve or are currently serving. Your reading comprehension is poor at the very least, and you twist things around and lie at the worst. I spent almoat 8 and a quarter years in the U.S. Army, not I’ve been out for 8 years. I left or ETS on 30 April 2011, and started Basic Training at Ft. Benning on 13 February 2003. I was in the 1st Signal Brigade, U.S. 8th Army in South Korea from 2003 to 2006. I came into Ft.Stewert in Hinesville, Georgia, USA the reception battalion and entered the U.S. Army 3rd Infantry Division in January 2007. I was sent to the 3rd Combat Aviation Brigade(helicopters), a brigade of the U.S. Army 3rd Infantry Division, at Hunter Army Airfield, Savannah, Georgia, USA. I deployed to Iraq in May 2007 and returned in August 2008. Then I deployed to Afghanistan in November 2009 to November 2010. My brigade was the first brigade sized unit of the 3rd Infantry Division to deploy to Afghanistan. Major General Tony Cuccolo, commander of the 3rd Infantry Division at the time, told us that after going on a Brigade run with us at Hunter Army Airfield before we deployed to Afghanistan. The rest of the 3rd Infantry Division returned to Iraq at more or less the same time period. I won’t tell you my battalion or company I served with to keep a certain amount of anonymity. It takes a long time for me to trust people when I know them personally, and I never have the same level of trust online. Major General Lynch was my 3rd Infantry Division commander in Iraq, and I know he made rank to Lieutenant General after leaving the 3ID, Mechanized Infantry, and was replaced by Major General Cuucolo. Now when did you enter the military and what branch of service are you? Are you still in or when did you leave? What units down to division and brigade or its more or less equivelency, e.g. regiment might substitute for brigade, did you serve in? When did you deploy and where? What sex and race are you? How old are you? If I saw you live and I had it on me I could show you my DD 214, Certificate of Release or Discharge From Active Duty. That’s right, I’m calling you out, you sociopathic asshole.

    Then you give men a link with an article which states that the divorce rate went from 2.6% in 2001 to 3.6% in 2009 and stayed at 3.6% in 2010. Wow! Really? Wow! Most people here accept the divorce rate in the USA for the general population being 40% to 50%. Divorce rates for the military were much lower than the civilian population in the 1990s, but not even then were they as low as you cite. They are much higher now. For the peanut gallery, look to the fourth paragraph on her first link. I accept that it is possible for me to be wrong about the divorce percentages I stated. I strongly doubt I’m wrong, and you can feel free to try and prove me wrong. These men may have exagerated or told outright lies to me, but I strongly doubt that too. I’m sure I’m both more honest and accurate than you, tool. Peanut Gallery, whose statistics do you think is closer to the truth?

    SGLI(Army’s life insurance) was $200,000 dollars for a single Soldier with children and $400,000 dollars for a married Soldier or a Soldier with children not in a war zone. It was $400,000 for a single Soldier with no children in the war zone and $800,000 dollars for a married Soldier or a Soldier with children in a war zone at the time.

    I never once said Jesus held the military together. Many Soldiers aren’t Christian nor Catholic, and I respect that. I have had and continue to have friends of various religious beliefs and faiths. People change over time staying at home. People generally speaking change even more after going away for a year to teach in English in South Korea, or to work on an oil rig in Saudi Arabia. Then you imply that people don’t change in a war zone. Maybe if you’re a complete sociopath, you don’t.

    Are you a recruiter or just a soulless sociopathic “corporate” rank climber in the military? Were you ever really in the military or at least a civilian who has a military spouse? You obviously don’t care for the men who may want to serve or who are currently serving or who are out like me and are veterans. I do care about them, and that’s what I get out of writing these comments. I try not to tell them what to do. I advise them as best as I know how be that good or bad. I also tell them what I would do. It’s their choice and lives in the end and I can’t live their lives. Even if they make wrong choices, I care for them until they do something seriously wrong to harm me or someone else I care about. Right now your comments are going to hurt them, and that’s why I’m verbally ripping you a new asshole.

    Let’s have fun with military humor. You are entertaining! LMAO and LOL! Miltary people should hear the phrase more often: Don’t worry about it, whereever you are in the world, Jody is fucking your girl(Nice to know you lie and say he doesn’t). Keep flapping your gums and opening your mouth because you’re making my dick hard, bitch. I’ll bet if I stuck my cock in your mouth, it would be the smartest thing to come out of your mouth, cunt. Teabagging(person 1’s naked testicles on person 2’s forehead) you was not a seduction ploy, it was a joke, you stalker. I’m not homosexual, so you can stop your failed attempts to shit test me, and I’m just not that into you.

  152. doclove October 21, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    @ P. Bateman
    Thankyou for your comments on post 127. My situation is similar to yours. My father does neg my mother from time to time though. My parents have been married since 1964. I have little hope for what my father got in life concerning marriage. Fewer and fewer women will let men have what he got. There is little reason to think that anyone will have as happy or stable or as long of of a marriage that they continue to have. They’ve had their fights and storms too, but they’re still married, aged 71 for my father and aged 67 for my mother. The Game has changed for the worst and it’s getting harder for men to play.

  153. L. October 21, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    To Bateman #152:
    What a double standard. If a man is being mistreated/utilized, it´s the woman´s fault. If a girl is being utilized/ill treated, it´s still the girl´s fault.
    How do you know that Roosh tells the truth? Do you know him in person? If so, did you know this woman who supposedly wronged him so, too?
    To what extent are the reasons/excuses of #151 “telling”? As she said, she was young and naive. We all are naive and hormone-driven at a certain age. But some of us (e.g. #151, or Roosh V, I suppose) have bad luck. Some of them get over it, others get bitter, cynical and hateful – like Roosh V.

  154. doclove October 21, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    @ Kona
    Post 153 was meant for you. I wrongly called you Aloha. At least I correct my mistakes. Let’s see if you correct yours.

  155. doclove October 21, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    @ Ubermind
    I take your comments in stride. The military is necesarry for the nation even when it is used improperly. I hate when it’s used improperly for the record. I’m proud of my service, but Major General of the Marine Corps. and 2 time recipient of the Medal of Honor, Smedley Butler, gave a speech before losing the U.S. Congress Pennsylvania Senate race in the 1930s entitled “War is a Racket”. He was right. Even when necessary, war is a racket, and it’s a worse racket when it’s not necessary. Keep in mind many join the military even if they disagreewith what the President and Congress is doing. They either want the military life for whatever reason and join enthusiasticly or they see no better options for themselves and so reluctantly join. As I said before, employment opportunities turn worse for each generation. This does not invalidate their choices nor their service as we all know in the miltary who volunteered that we did this to ourselves. However, it does explain things.

  156. Sage October 21, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    Yes 151, you’re “good” because you made a mistake. Wonderful logic.

    Women will never admit there’s a problem…it’s always the men even though both sides can learn something (feminists and their mangina enablers.)

    When will truth once again prevail rather than wallowing in Pook’s curtain of lies? (Check out Pook’s Mill/MIrror of the Soul, it’s great.)

    Whatever, if the world burns, we as people must live to win rather than to wade in the swamps of mediocrity.

  157. Timothy October 21, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    I think what’s telling about 151’s response is that women’s behavior doesn’t change. She used her youth as an excuse, but even supposedly mature women make the same decisions with regards to men. It’s what we talk about so much here – about how the aloof, unavailable asshole gets the girl and the pussy, while the “nice” guy gets dismissed. I don’t think the fact that she had sex at 16 was the issue, but that she didn’t use a condom. That has nothing to do with age, because even more mature adults fail to use them also. And she gave herself a pass, but felt Roosh and other like him DON’T have a viable excuse for their behavior, even after he clearly laid out his reasons for living the way he does. She called him a whiner, then proceeded to whine herself, not once, but TWICE. Even at 16 you have the power to say no, and especially when someone drops an ultimatum on you. Plenty of young people manage to say no to horny 16 year old dudes – almost ALL of us tried to get some at that age, and I’m sure most of us were unsuccessful. Ultimately, she made the right decision not to have the kid, and I would hope that situation molded her future decisions. I just think it’s weak to excuse yourself, but attack someone else’s choices.

  158. doclove October 21, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    @ Dave
    Although I think it is a bad idea to get married, if you must get married please follow this advice.

    Have seperate bank accounts, with your money, her money, and our money. At least your money will be safe in your account. Don’t let anyone have access to this. This is a good idea in the civilian world and it’s exponentially a better idea in the military world. Try to have at least $5,000 in savings that she doesn’t know about as it may save you on a bad day. Regard it as emergency money only.

    When you deploy, you will make more money for combat pay and not paying federal income taxes. Act like that money doesn’t exist and save it, and don’t spend it. Live off of what you would normally get while being in a peacetime garrison in the USA or Okinawa. While you are deployed try to save even more as you don’t need to spend as much money as at home. This works whether you are single with no woman in your life, you have a girlfriend or a wife.

    Finally, you must be a lieutanant or close to being one. Do yourself a favor. Do not get married until you a Captain or higher ranked. Only get married after your first deployment. Only start a serious relationship after your first deployment. If you have a serious relationship, try to deploy again before coming home and getting married. Get married after your second deployment. You do this to see how well the girlfriend handles you being away in a war zone. For your enlisted troops advise them to be the same way, but don’t get married until you are a Corporal or Sergeant, NCO(Non Commisioned Officer). Getting married as lower enlisted or as a lieutenant is a bad idea. You simply do not have enough status in the military. The same certainly applies to a few warrant officers in the Army who were never enlisted first and came in as warrant officer pilots. Wait until you are W-2 or higher before you get married. Do not get married if you were nothing more than a W-1, and never an enlisted Soldier first. Everyone in the military is somebody’s else’s love slave bitch even if he is a four star or five star General because he is at the very least a civilian’s love slave bitch. The higher ranked you become the more money you earn and the more hours you work, but at least you have more people underneath you and less over you in rank. I’m deadly serious about this when I talk about your rank and status being important to women especially if you marry them in the military. Avoid lower ranked women’s sexual advances like the plague because fraternization can and will destroy you if you are caught. These females want your higher ranked and higher status sperm, and many other Soldiers be they male or female, lower, the same or higher ranked will take pleasure at destroying you with this. This is GAME for the military men who want married life or even a single life.

    Please advise everyone of your peers and Marine’s under you to do as I advised. You can do what you want, but my advice is solid. Thankyou for your military service again, brother.

  159. doclove October 21, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    @ Dave
    I forgot, try to get married for as many months as possible after your last deployment. There’s too much of a “honeymoon” pahse with your girlfriend or friends or family memebers after you return. They’re showing their best side after you return, and not their usual selves which usually isn’t as pleasant.

  160. L. October 21, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    “I think what’s telling about 151′s response is that women’s behavior doesn’t change. She used her youth as an excuse, but even supposedly mature women make the same decisions with regards to men. It’s what we talk about so much here – about how the aloof, unavailable asshole gets the girl and the pussy, while the “nice” guy gets dismissed. I don’t think the fact that she had sex at 16 was the issue, but that she didn’t use a condom. That has nothing to do with age, because even more mature adults fail to use them also. And she gave herself a pass, but felt Roosh and other like him DON’T have a viable excuse for their behavior, even after he clearly laid out his reasons for living the way he does. She called him a whiner, then proceeded to whine herself, not once, but TWICE. Even at 16 you have the power to say no, and especially when someone drops an ultimatum on you. Plenty of young people manage to say no to horny 16 year old dudes – almost ALL of us tried to get some at that age, and I’m sure most of us were unsuccessful. Ultimately, she made the right decision not to have the kid, and I would hope that situation molded her future decisions. I just think it’s weak to excuse yourself, but attack someone else’s choices.”

    Well, no. First, my husband IS a nice guy. Second, as aforementioned, this “asshole” PRETENDED to be a nice guy. If he had been a 16 years old man-child himself, I would never have placed as much of the blame on him. But he was 25. Sure, it was my own fault, too, I could´ve been more distrustful, I could´ve sent him on his way, as he so friendly told me that he would find someone else to fuck if I didn´t open my legs, that´s true. But he was a grown-up, experienced, manipulative man.
    All I wanted to say was that I didn´t place the blame on his gender (like Roosh does). Most (normal, mentally healthy) men and women don´t blame the whole opposite sex for their bad experiences, but some do. Because of some bad experiences some lose faith in the other half of mankind. Like Roosh.

  161. P. Bateman October 21, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    No L @ 155. I don’t blame a woman for mistreating me. I am a changed man because of that experience. I am actually thankful I went through that. I learned so many valuable things that have prevented me from continuing to make mistakes that all these women I know continue to make. Because they fail to recognize what they are doing that’s wrong. That’s the point.

    I also blame a lot of men for displaying weak behaviour that demeans them in relationships. They fail to realize why their situations are so bad (their own actions), They’ll have to adapt, but you won’t like that (even though you secretly do).

    I was lucky enough to recognize it and accept it being due to my own behaviour. What this post is about is why a lot of men out there seem like so-called a$$holes. Its because, women like these co-called a$$holes. If this isn’t what you want, then re-invent and act accordingly, much like I did. If you did, you might be happier.

    I don’t know Roosh, but I know the guy is very adept at analyzing human behaviour. As a result, he was, like myself, able to adapt before the going got real tough. He clearly accepted his faults.

    151 sounds bitter. Saying you are young and naive is a cop-out. Just tell it like it is. I messed up, I wanted this man so bad I was willing to do anything to keep him around. It sucks, but it is what it is. She can’t do that though. Young + naive + he deceived me = excuses, excuses.

  162. Timothy October 21, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    I’m not in a position to question whether or not your husband is a good man. I hope he is, but again…you still aren’t taking enough responsibility. He pretented to be a nice guy until he threatened to dump you if you didn’t fuck him. HE REVEALED HIMSELF RIGHT THERE, AND IT WASN’T TOO LATE TO SAY “TAKE A HIKE.” He didn’t reveal himself after you were pregnant, but before he got you pregnant. And you leave out the part about not using a condom. Given the choice of sex with a condom, and NO sex, men almost always opt for sex with the condom. Adult men have sex with minors EVERY DAY. Minors have sex with minors every day. Human beings are sexual, so sex is going to happen at every opportunity. Men will say whatever they have to for it, but that form of ultimatum revealed him as a douche, and his age has little do with it. Plenty of young guys use the “give it to me or I’ll find someone who will” line. It’s powerful because it’s true – there’s always someone else. There are also plenty of girls that say no.

    I think some of us purposely interpret what is written too literally, to provide an excuse to argue. No individual can realistically state that ALL of any group exhibits certain behavior, especially a group he himself is not a part of. However, experience tells most men that there is great truth to what Roosh states, because as men we’ve seen aspects of this behavior in the majority of women we’ve met in our lives in this country. The accusatory tone of this post is purely for effect. Individuals make the decision to change themselves, but change is usually prompted by negative experiences (I’m sure YOU understand THAT). If men, as they are, find their experiences with women to be negative (by negative I mean non-existent…HA HA!) it isn’t wrong to examine yourself and make changes. If you want to have sex/relationships with women, you’ll observe the type of men/behavior women favor and adopt elements of that behavior. It doesn’t make you good or bad – it’s just adjusting to the present conditions. Adapting. As a woman, you may not want to acknowledge the behavior of women towards men, because certain behavior is natural to you – you don’t question it, you just DO.

  163. Dave October 21, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    Thanks doc, I’m going to put those posts into a Word doc and save it, it is extremely useful. One Staff Sergeant told a group of us after a post-PT talk much of the same advice. He told us not to marry until after you’ve deployed and have been in the Corps for at least 2-3 years (which would make me a 1st Lt. by then). Right now I’m just waiting to ship to OCC, so I’m not quite a Lt. yet, but it should only be a few months. At any rate, he told us to test your GF by waiting until after you’ve deployed at least once to take things further, so I will definitely take that to heart.

    I have another story, this one closer to home. My cousin is a Staff Sergeant in the Army who married when he was a Private. He married a very pretty girl he met on the Internet days before his first deployment. He never really elaborated as to why, but the very first thing he did when he got off the plane in the U.S.A. is drive to a divorce lawyer’s office. Before doing anything else, he went right to the divorce lawyer. He wound up staying with her, amazingly, but she is now about 270 lbs and his mother (my aunt) continually shares stories about how much of a bitch she is. He had a son with her, and he became an alcoholic. At any rate, he’s going back to Afghanistan (I think this is his 5th deployment) next year, and he can’t wait. He looks forward to deployments to escape his miserable home life. It’s the son he has with her that keeps him from leaving.

    I chose the military because I wanted some adventure in my life, I’m fiercely patriotic even though America is not where I’d like it to be, and because I find the whole military life attractive. I was with a feminist for 3 years and we were engaged for 2 of them. It was my horrible, soul-rending break up with her that caused me to stumble across game blogs and books. I googled something like “feminism sucks” out of frustration one day and came across Heartiste’s blog, which eventually lead me to Roosh as well. It’s a long story, but what went on between me and my ex left me with a severe distaste for feminism. After getting basically cheated on and broken up with, she also wanted to sue me for some reason, which she ultimately did not because she had no case. I got this girl a job where I worked, got her into college, drove her to work and school every day because she had no car, even waking up way early, spent my entire life savings on a diamond ring for her… And I got treated like that. After the break up I got into MMA and became a fighter, and finished up my degree quickly when UFC fighter and ex-Marine officer Brian Stann inspired me with his story. These days I’m extremely cautious with women. If I find out they have anything to do with feminism or describe themselves as liberal or have a history of riding the cock carousel, etc, I just dump them. I try not to use them as short-term playthings because I am Christian, which is part of the reason I really do want to just find a good wife. These days I am thinking about just marrying one of the foreign girls who write me from my study abroads, but it would be too hard to evaluate them as wife material. I can’t just bring one here and see how she reacts to me deploying.

  164. Dave October 21, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Also, thank you for your service as well. I forgot to say that earlier.

  165. P. Bateman October 21, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Sorry that’s anon #151 that I was originally directing my response towards. Not Timothy, that guy knows what he’s talking about.

  166. Timothy October 21, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    @165 Dave…that Staff Sergeant might want to warn guys off of marrying strippers too. The nature of their job is to manipulate men out of as much money as possible. To pretend he’s handsome. To pretend to care about his problems. To get his dick as hard as possible so he’ll cough up as much cash as possible. They’re hustlers, and they have to be to compete for those dollars on stage and out on the floor. That mercenary nature doesn’t go away when you wife ’em up. They’ll get you for your money and your house, and while you’re away they’ll start fucking other dudes to get them to pay for shit too. They’re great for entertainment, blowing off steam and even as shoulder to cry on, but that’s it.

  167. Anonymous October 21, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    LOL, guys, “Marriage 1.0” will never be “restored.” In all of the history of mankind, the past has never been “restored” despite conservatives’ endless attempts to do so. You’re wasting everyone’s time.

  168. T&A Man October 21, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    Kona, #149…

    Logic does not seem to be a strong endeavour with you. It is somewhat lacking, perhaps female… you say this…

    “If you figure there’s 1.1 million active/guard/reserve under the Army umbrella and 240,00 active/reserve Marines. The numbers you made up would mean there are 825,00 and 168,00 divorces per branch, respectively?”

    Erhh no. What you have stated is 75% of the strength of the respective services. Now unless 100% of them are married to non-military people, then 75% of them can’t be divorcing.

    I was also suspect, especially with the army, discharge tends to cease after a tour, and information comes to play where a divorce will occur. Then it wouldn’t show up in the divorce rates for active personnel, even though events that caused divorce occured while serving.

    Please leave the thinking to us, you’re clearly not qualified.

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  170. Anonymous October 22, 2011 at 6:12 am

    Only losers whine about what other people do to them. You’re a 33 yo man. Not a little bitch. Grow up, Roosh.

  171. JST October 22, 2011 at 11:24 am

    @ 172

    Tell American women to “woman up”. Would you tell the men who get divorce papers by their ungrateful wives that decide they’re too “bored” to grow up?

    Roosh and men should grow up. We should go back to the time when men slapped women to keep them in line for bad behavior. We should go back to a time when men could actually punish wives for not having sex and being responsible mothers.

    Would you be happy with that? If yes, we’ll “grow up”.

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 12:09 pm

      Men as a whole, have been the chivalrous sex. Most men would not hit a woman.

  172. Anonymous October 22, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    The military incentivizes getting married while at the same time making it very difficult to maintain a happy healthy marriage.

    If you get married you get to move out the barracks and get away from all the associated extra duty and immaturity that comes with living there.

    You get paid to live off post which often exceeds what you pay in rent. So you pocket extra cash each month.

    You get pay for food each month, no more blah chow food for you.

  173. chronnox October 22, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Roosh.. just wanted to say.. THANK YOU!. You have changed my life…

  174. Carl Sagan October 22, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    Seems like anytime someone writes a negative article about women in the US every guy on the internet needs to tell us his sob story.

  175. Luckystar October 22, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Somehow when I think of Roosh…the song ‘Juicy’ by Biggie Smalls starts to play in my head…if you don’t know, know you know…nigga

  176. Dave October 23, 2011 at 2:12 am

    Unless you’re an officer, 174, then the barracks tend to be a pretty cool place. I wouldn’t want to live off them. You’d have to drive to work, the gym isn’t just there for you at any time, and the mess hall doesn’t skimp on breakfast – the most important meal of the day. You can easily down over 1000 calories of good shit there any morning. Pancakes, sausages, bacon, eggs, coffee, milk. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

  177. let it be October 23, 2011 at 5:31 am

    I agree with #35 (Anonymous): “let the anger go, dude”. words of wisdom

    Don´t worry, be happy roosh….

    in words of the Betals:


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  179. hydrogonian October 23, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    “Only losers whine about what other people do to them. You’re a 33 yo man. Not a little bitch. Grow up, Roosh.”

    So, for all of those who go on in either a continued loop of self deprecation or rationalization for their shitty circumstances in life, just when is it okay to blame the environment a little bit?

    Guys like this remind me of the beta men who will take a financial/cultural or even relationship ass-fucking by the powers that be, or women, until there is nothing left, and then thank them for the privilege of being ass fucked. “Yes, thank you massa politician, this is truly the land of the free and home of the brave”. They are happy to support the club, even though they will never be in the club. These are the men that do the human species a disservice by reproducing and spreading their weak and stupid beta genes.

    Think about this, Atlas, perhaps the cultural and economic environment has been carefully shaped so that the marriage rate will decline, the divorce rate will rise, the infidelity rate will rise, the amount of men in financial slavery from divorce proceedings will rise, the amount of men that find it economically necessary to join the military will rise, etc.

    Only when you accept the possibility that these cultural and economic circumstances have been carefully planned and implemented can you ask what the possible cause is and make an effort to do something about it. But it will take a lot of introspection and a lot of effort to find the truth and even more to make waves. Or you can roll over or otherwise ‘blame yourself’, which is the true beta bitch move.

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 12:10 pm

      The truth behind who funds feminism.

  180. Anonymous October 23, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    People complaining that Roosh is whining, miss the irony and satire of this post.

    Feminists deny responsibility for pretty much everything negative that happens to women, placing the blame upon society.

    As you sow, you shall reap.

  181. Mr. International October 24, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    Pierce man…fucking brilliant

  182. Luckystar October 25, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Let me tell you something. I’ve seen firsthand the life Roosh is living…he is travelling the world and banging women far superior in beauty and mind to the U.S. The dirty little secret is he doesn’t want you to know how good he really has it.

    All this post is saying…and I know this straight from the man…if you don’t like him, you don’t like all the things he stands for…well, you(feminism)…you created him…and what you hate…stems from your inspiration. As Roosh said, it inspires so many more.

  183. Anonymous October 31, 2011 at 2:37 am

    Oh look, let’s blame our failures on OTHER PEOPLE

  184. Vindicator October 31, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    Gotta love how the feminist/mangina trolls either miss the point completely due to retardation or conveniently ignore it. Do you even know what “satire” is, you faggots?.

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  186. Anonymous November 5, 2011 at 7:09 am

    Who cares if the world is a fucked up place?genuine guys out there will get eaten buy this whole fucked system unless they change.

    women globally are pretty much how roosh says it. nice guys can complain all they want and point out the bitches……and remain virgin.

    or they can adapt and play the game. when lions got bigger teeth….buffalo got thicker skin

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  188. Hydro December 23, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    “You made it very clear that being nice, chivalrous, and patient was not the way to have sex with you.”

    “I kept Little Egg at arm’s length because I didn’t want to stop whoring.”

    “You made me a selfish asshole.”

    El-Oh-EL. You started off a selfish asshole, so therefore, you were not and cannot be capable of love. =D You valued sex over the woman inside, like every typical “nice” guy. You can’t have a “love” relationship with someone you don’t care about and only view as a dick puppet/emotional high/etc. Live with it.

    I want to thank you. Lately I’ve been getting all sappy left and right, but you know what? At the end of the day, I know what I am. So everytime I fall off the wagon, I’m coming back here. And I will smile at my own foolishness.

  189. Nate C January 15, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    Tons of good comments here. (Just discovered the forum yesterday, and likewise found it an enlightening source of info.) Still got a lot of comments left to read but I just wanted to chime and say:

    I think a lot of the problems we see with women, aren’t actually problems with “women” at all. It’s our fucked up Western *society* with America being the worst offender in this regard, but other countries such as Britain being just as bad. I don’t think feminism has quite as much a role in this as some people believe. I would say that *authoritarianism* is the largest factor in causing the betaness and associated other problems in today’s society.

    Supporting anecdotes from personal experience:

    The United States Air Force used to be a pretty laid back organization. My old Guard unit used to have an actual *bar* on the premises, and the fellows would cut drill a bit short on Sunday to sit around for hours drinking and socializing. One old timer recalled back in the day when they’d be convoying downstate for annual field training, pulling up two Jeeps alongside each other on the Interstate and passing a beer back and forth. They never hurt anyone and were just as good at their jobs back then as now.

    Can you IMAGINE the harsh penalties for doing something like this today? These penalties are due to the overly beta/woman-centric viewpoint of our “society.”

    Another example: Like Pierre, I was once a young man with high testosterone. The years I drove a beat up old white Chevy pickup truck I was a danger to nobody. But when I finally upgraded to a bright shiny new red V8 Mustang, I suppose I was now a huge threat to society judging how often I now got pulled over and ticketed, despite driving in the exact same manner as I always had.

    Years later after many run-ins with those fucking asshole pigs, despite never having caused any kind of accident, or ever have been charged with or convicted of ANY kind of serious driving offense such as reckless driving, drunk driving, or anything other than speeding (and here’s the kicker: DRIVING WHILE SUSPENDED), to this day the state says I’m ineligible for a license, or even a hearing on the matter. Sorry, your driving “privilege” is revoked they say. Since the state also does not allow hardship licenses and there are ZERO public transportation options, my only two options if I want to be a law abiding citizen are to a) move to an urban area in another state at great expense, or b) starve to death. Nobody in the government gives one half of a rat’s ass either way.

    The War Against Alcohol, and Smokers, and Pedophiles, and Weeds, and People Who Have The Audacity To Drive While Suspended, and a hundred against things, is nothing more than one piece of the same puzzle: tyranny and oppression. The entire “first” world is ate up with it, and America is the leading example.

    So what does this have to do with our dating problems? Everything. First, it provides evolutionary (both genetic AND social) pressures which naturally selects for beta male types, since the alphas who can’t shake their unfortunate genetic tendency to live and act as if though they inhabit a free country end up as bitches in the prison system (after being *forcibly circumsized* by the fucking savages) working for some fat cats at a sweatshop for $1/hr.

    It’s no surprise given the above that all the typical alpha views in society would then be suppressed in favor of popular “bow down and submit to authority” arguments, which the females of course don’t challenge because they have no problem with this viewpoint. They see nothing wrong with having to submit to authority….because they are FEMALE. And since they value safety more, and logic/education half as much (by design), all the “think of the kids” and “OMG-IRAN-NUKES!!” arguments work perfectly on them. They then use their sex to control the beta-ized males. The only ones left in play are the alpha males in power, and the other alpha males at the bottom just trying to survive.

    Basically, the only way for a man at the bottom to escape this fucking rat race is to a) be smart and resourceful about getting what you want, b) rich, or c) know/meet the right people. Now let’s see……what type of guys do the betas keep complaining about stealing their women? Exactly. Makes a lot of sense right? The normal beta/nice guy, who might have been a fine choice in the 1950s when America was king of the world, or maybe in today’s Uruguay where the country is under no threat from anyone, is pretty marginalized in 2012 when we live in a hyper-fearful society where his inability to protect or plan for a fucking thing is worse than useless.

    Understand how and why the world works, and you will understand why dating in America is NOT representive of “women” or “female genetics” insofar as how those specific genetics *respond* to their specific environment. The problems with marriage, women, men, dating, sex, and all this in today’s society isn’t because women are naturally coldhearted bitches. This is not true at all and I feel it’s an extremely self-destructive attitude to believe this.

    It’s called a “phenotype.” You can take two clones of a plant with the exact same “genotype” (i.e. DNA), and raise them in different conditions, and the two resulting *phenotypes* might be vastly different. Same thing applies to humans just as much as plants or other animals. A girl raised in a loving, caring society might turn out to be a loving, caring person, but in Miami she might turn out to be a disgusting, shallow bitch. Don’t blame the girl, blame the selfish ass, ugly society that raised her.

    The more you know…..!

  190. Anonymous January 16, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    As a hot, American feminist, I must contribute to this article.

    Not all women are like this. Is there something hot about a man who is emotionally unavailable? Yes and I will tell you why. No, it’s not because we want him to be a douche to us — it’s because he is mysterious & doesn’t give too much away. If good guys learned to be a bit more mysterious, then women would find them 10x more attractive.

    Women want to be dominated, but at the same time they want to feel like they have their own free will. It’s walking that line that is hard.

    I know plenty of men who were born assholes & players. I know plenty of men who got away treating women with disrespect for years. This sort of thinking is what leads to rape — women are only objects to be used for sex, this is their only purpose, blah-blah.

    If you want to find the right girl, you need to be compassionate and sweet, mysterious and not too available.

    I’m currently dating a very hot, sweet, mysterious guy who writes me poetry, gives me space, & fucks me just the way I like it.

    That’s how you all need to be. Don’t attack the women’s movement because you’re insecure in your own masculinity.

    1. TypicalFeminist February 9, 2014 at 7:01 pm

      Typical feminist behavior. It’s all about what HE can do to get you and please you. The real question is what do YOU bring to the table that a hotter, younger girl doesn’t.

    2. VeryTypical February 22, 2014 at 9:10 pm

      You’re a moron and you can’t see the forest for the trees

      hint: men aren’t your servants

      hint: your advice about what a man should be

      hint: you’re as much the problem as any of us

      When your current relationship ends (invariably – is it over already?) you will see that his position is far better than yours

  191. alejandro January 27, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    @ 192
    lol you honestly think that all girls want the same thing you want? Obviously every girl is different and will have personal preferences, but game basically allows a guy to hit many of the triggers that a high percentage of women want. that means it wont always work, any expereinced gamer knows this

    Also any guy with self respect wont change himself to a womans preferences, that suicide on a relationship level and is disgusting on a self respect level, all i can say as a man you should not give a fuck about what the girl wants in the beginning and just do what you want. Dont try to mold to a womans wants or needs even if she tells you she likes guys that do this or that. Stay strong in your own personal will even if you dont get the girl keep your self respect. Id rather be the asshole that does not get laid one time then the doormat that never gets laid

  192. Nate C January 28, 2012 at 4:32 am

    Sorry Alejandro, but the “feminist” is absolutely correct. Her advice is what gets me in the sack with hot, REAL women. Your advice is typical of someone who “doesn’t get it” and relies on chance and “luck” to pick up women. Oh, and your entire post reeks of insecurity. Might want to reevaluate yourself before posting hot headed comments in the future.

  193. alejandro January 28, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    @194 i was talking about self respect not the most effective way to pick up women, i made that blatantly clear in my post. Maybe i should explain further, as someone who has read a good deal of “pickup” material i can say that much of it deals with molding yourself into what a woman may potentially want to an extreme degree. If that works for you cool, but id rather not give a fuck about what she thinks and just do what i would naturally want to do regaurdless of weather i get laid or not, but thats just my style. i am not a pretender. I see a lot of guys dancing around for hours and hours with “game” making fools of themselvs imo and they still end up failing to get what they want. Dont get me wrong i use a lot of traditional style game tactics too its just that i think a lot of guys really value getting laid over their own self respect and to me thats a mistake.

    Every guy has to deceide for himself where he wants to draw the line in terms of how far hell go and how much time and resources hell put into getting laid, and for me i choose to preserve my resources and dignity to a high degree. Im not against any style of gaming women i just choose self dignity over getting laid.

    also i never called her a feminist, nor could i care less that she describes herself as one.

    another point I was trying to make is that women give overtly contradicting or situational advice on dating and assume it to be the absolute truth. In the future ask some lady friends about dating advice and i can assure that youll be barraged with all kinds of senseless talk….. kinda similar to your post filled with more then a few assumptions about my personality and state of mind based on 2 paragraphs

  194. Douche April 24, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    Too late i guess but my two cents.

    American Feminist – The problem is always with guys right …you need to be this and that etc. etc.

    Understand the meaning of the term social contract. Society is based on that…that man will sublimate his libido for higher goals in service of society – and the delayed gratification will be better for him and society.

    However, men are realizing that all that is a lie. No need to do that – since women go for tingles, and superficial stuff. Women choose men with good game, not necessarily with good character.

    And of course there is no reward for delayed gratification…women want it all, but have little to give, except pussy. One can’t start a family with the kind of entitled women we find these days.

    Just like women choose men for sex, men choose women for relationships. Learning game is great as it enables him to get what he wants, without being trapped into a toxic relationship.

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  196. LessWrong September 3, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    “my biological urge of sleeping with you.”
    You own it. Now control it, instead of letting Sex-Seeker control you, like Hitler let antisemitism control him. You can’t blame women for your lack of control over your own various interests pushing you to be hateful and harmful.

  197. logical paradoxes, wasteful economies September 3, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    “Women nowadays don’t reward the ‘nice’ behaviour I saw my father display with my mother.”

    Let’s do some logic, starting with the premise implied above that women should reward only and all good behavior from men by giving men sex. Since men want to be “rewarded” by only a proportion of the population of women, those women would have to do a lot of sex-work. But some men would complain about women being sluts or “riding the cock carousel.” Of these men, some forgo being good persons and focus on being part of the cock-carousel, which conflicts with the premise that women should reward only goodness with sex.

    So, what if men stop being possessive and let the desirable women do the work of rewarding w/ sex the good works of various men. But this places an undue burden on such women, who are capable of doing more for the world than being cum receptacles, which good men wouldn’t want anyway. So, we’re still left with a paradox.

    What if we replace the premise with this: humans should be humane. Making the world a better place should be intrinsically rewarding, so you don’t have to get a bone for good behavior as if you’re a stupid dog. Even smart dogs do good work (see dogs with jobs). They don’t require continual external rewarding. Nor do their occasional rewards have to be as energy-expensive as intercourse.

    [This has been a short lesson on the logic & economics of what people have done and how we can do better — brought to you by a woman with common sense.]

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 12:36 pm

      ‘ men want to be “rewarded” ‘
      Im pretty ( from men I know ) sure men would like to be treated like human beings, not some sort of Pavlovian science experiment.

      It would be very nice if humans were humane. But I think, despite your logic, this is precisely the problem humanity has since it started. Tying it up with a nice bow, in a pretty package of what should be done is not contributing any scientific advances toward solving the problem.
      Are you a feminist? Because this is the simple minded way they see and approach issues. Which is why I went to men for answers on what is the Truth.

      Rewards. Ye gods. I have a male friend who would kill anyone who hurt me ( he says ), and it’s not for my “rewarding ” him. Its for treating him like he deserves. Which no one does. For helping him, when I had little- because he had less/ and no one else did.
      Because I respect him as man, a totally differently thinking/being sex than myself. Who understands me in return, the same the best he may. He supports my frailties, yet never ever lets me sink into self-pity. For what he’s made of me, I will do anything for him. For what Ive given him, he would as well.

      None of this had to do with “isms” or ideology.

      It came about because I was humble, and willing to wait to understand him. I was willing to learn about him, until I could reach a point where he felt he could trust me. Because I proved it.
      All I used was science, a willingness to learn, and -un-conditional love.

    2. Odile Lee May 29, 2016 at 9:08 pm

      It should be considered, in Victorian society, the fetishization of virginity led to a increase in prostitution, denied by moralistic christian Victorians. I hope fervently you good gentlemen know of this, and unlike that age, work a way culturally to avoid their mistakes, while still keeping the fact that keeping sex to marriage, is a better solution than undiscliplined sexual freedom. I as a woman, think it has contributed to the breakdown of monogamy.

  198. Wilson October 26, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    I’m pretty sure nothing you wrote made any logical, economic, or any other kind of sense.

    1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 12:17 pm

      You the man. Literally.
      Thank you for that.

  199. Victor Von Dizzle November 18, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    Hell yeah! I just had a conversation last week about American women who think they can be complete bitches and *somehow* still expect to find Prince charming. I love how the burden of being “charming” is all on us guys. Where the hell is Princess Charming? You know, that one hypothetical woman who doesn’t always have her bitch shield up?

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  203. g ron September 27, 2013 at 1:56 am

    Spot on Roosh.

    I learn from your experiences that’s why I like reading this blog.

    Please share more about how to find nice girls who really just want to be loved right. I personally believe the whole feminism and porn thing was designed to frazzle the natural way of bonding between the sexes-I call it Communist-Zionist mind F$%^ing of the stupid masses for total Orwellian Control. Check out if you think the comments I post are just bull shit racism. I don’t hate Jews. It’s all central banksters like the Rothschilds and their Illuminati coparts who ran it all in the ground for the common man-never forget that!!!

    I tried being the nice guy before. I remember one girl I met invited me to a gathering at her friends house and they all ridiculed me. I came home and bawled my eyes out the next day. I stood up for myself some so I didn’t get totally blown out but if you knew the entity this whole thing was associated with it would really piss you off. I swear her one friend that cock blocked me the hardest for a split second it took all I had not to level her (and iv’e trained combat sports for years and had about 8 inches height on her-I’m not bragging at all but if you could’ve seen the look in their eyes and how they got off on attacking one guy as a group it was really sick).

    Bro you and me have courage we go out alone and approach groups alone they develop a gang mind set in groups but act differently alone.

    1. GroupsOfWomenAreApes February 22, 2014 at 9:03 pm

      I’ve seen that exact look in their eyes before. When you refuse to bow to “group consensus” generally over some issue that involves an insult to men on the whole.

      Always when in a group, often accompanied by finger-pointing

      It makes me feel disgusted to be human. It makes me feel like I’m surrounded by stupid apes.

      1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 12:40 pm

        Girls learn this type of particularly female behaviour early. Science it.
        ( Or learn about it and its lash,exceedingly well, if you grew up disabled. )

    2. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 12:38 pm

      You are in some ways, correct according to some other researchers in that big business, and govts. wanting to stay in power ( another big business ) are funding feminism. Which has accompanied the prevalence of porn.

  204. I Feel Sorry For Roosh October 20, 2013 at 7:02 am

    Ever thought that people can reward nice behavior with something that’s not sex? Nice behavior for example?

    I hornestly feel sorry for you.

  205. patriciacarrasco October 27, 2013 at 6:08 pm

    i been reading this site for awhile now and i have to put my 2 cents on this particular post…”women u did this to me”…im a woman and i do sympathize w/ the plight of men nowadays w/ how slutty and hypergamous women are nowadays, i do. im not a feminist but…i have to show u guys the other side of the equation. yes i agree that women giving it up more and more makes them more fickle, they wanna be excited now whereas in the past it wasnt like that, sex was mostly a very mysterious and private thing, only shared w/ ur spouse. now it has all exploded.
    but have u guys ever put urselves in a woman’s place? i do agree that women are definitely more emotional and some would argue less moral than men…it could be, im not sure. u men are not so damn moral either, hell no. yes i know that women mostly follow what the culture and media say, and its all corrupting. but just like eve in the garden w/ the forbidden fruit, eve was the more emotional and vulnerable one…but u men because of ur weakness for women also ate the proverbial fruit and ruined it all too! u cant blame it all on us! if u guys are so damn logical, why couldnt u see that all of this craziness couldve maybe been stopped? u dont care, all u guys want is to fuck women like crazy and then have ur cake and eat it too, by trying to marry a virgin, but in this day and age its nearly impossible so ull go for a woman w/ lower notches on her belt (how the hell are u gonna know that anyways?) u guys have fucked all the virgins so now who do u have?

    u men have unwittingly created this monster too by following women’s lead and never checking them for it, never standing up for whats right as a real man should. u just fall right along into the rabbit hole too….and that is by accepting women and their increasing immorality. in the past when men didnt realize how good they had it w/ mostly virginal women, u guys would say that if a woman has sex before marriage then she wasnt worth it. it was “if she’ll sleep w/me, she’ll sleep w/ others too” and guess what? its true! i know its heartbreaking to hear but if u think about it, how u got her is how u might lose her too. if she slept w/u because she was “in love”…that is simply not a good justification to fornicate and still be put up on a pedestal. in the past, u were just simply a whore! harsh but true! and if she falls out of love w/ u and falls in love w/ some other man…she’ll sleep w/ him wont she? yeah she will. but nobody wants to admit this fact. and then ull call her a “whore” because she played u….but u accepted it, and her as a “good” woman, whereas in the past it used to be said “u gotta make an honest woman out of her” if she slept w/ u before marriage or was “living in sin”. people had morals and knew it was dishonest cuz it is!

    yet nowadays it kills me when people say, a “wife/girlfriend” as if its equal? um no! since when has a “long-term relationship” been on par or as valid as a marriage? no time in history and still when u fill out government stuff its “single” or “married”. thats it! none of that “LTR” bullshit! i know in the future it will become more valid as standards and morality get lower than dirt. the point is that u men have validated something dishonest by not rejecting women for sleeping w/ u before marriage cuz ure so desperate to be w/ someone…and guess what it will only get worse! there are guys out there who marry porn stars, marry one-night stands…and they “defend their woman’s honor”? get the fuck outta here w/ that bullshit! r u serious? nobody seems to have any type of standards and get mad when u call them out on it? its sad for men out there but u guys seemingly werent men enough or waaaay too nice and understanding to call out the B.S. now ur gonna have to accept the sluttiest girls EVER!! now it seems its too late.
    i remember watching a show where in the 60’s or 70’s women were scared to sleep w/ their boyfriends cuz they feared they wouldnt respect them. women were tryna feel out how men would react….and now here we are. u guys didnt think it was wrong did u? if u guys had put a stop to it all and not legitimized the stupid LTR, we wouldve never gotten here, cuz true to human nature, u always wanna push the envelope. women especially are never satisfied! they want more and more sexual freedom and they KNOW u guys will mostly accept it! most have right? i know it sounds extreme but its the truth. im old enough to remember how guys in 2001, my ex would ask me how many guys i slept w/ before him and if i was a virgin? now i KNOW a guy would never ask me that….they dont wanna know and i dont blame them! u guys have lowered ur standards and women exploit that.

    but since im a female i also understand that women mostly dont think logically and just do what they feel they have to do to compete in the dating world, we feel we have to sleep w/ a guy in order to have a man, no we KNOW this, and guys are spoiled and demand sex. in the past, a guy knew he mostly had to marry a girl to get sex and it was respectful all around. so…women also have to degrade themselves more and more. pretty soon most women will just be porn stars and men will still accept them. just gross all around! i myself have been in that situation where my boyfriend wanted to sleep w/ me and gave me an ultimatum cuz we were together 2 months total and i wouldnt give it up. and he was a total “alpha” had lots of game..i def. WANTED to have sex ok? and i still think about him but i decided to wait for marriage…guess what? most women are not like me and w/ my resolve! i said no to him but countless say yes in order to keep a man! they watch porn, go to strip-clubs….so the guy will stay w/ them! i know i can get a man right now if i want, im still attractive and have never been overweight and have a nice body…but u guys dont want me, cuz u’ll have to take me seriously and i wont give up sex. a woman w/ morals like me cant catch a break! u guys have ALSO created this monster so man up….im not really christian anymore but wow, now i see what monster fornication is, it causes SOOOO much evil…and instead of bringing people together it only separates us all and makes us corrupt…think about it, y’all are part of the problem too…..

  206. Alex October 31, 2013 at 3:33 am

    It’s all true. I grew up in central Europe and came to the US in my teens. I have dated several European women and can say without a doubt that American girls are by comparison entitled without much to offer, under-educated and uninteresting and seem to regard all men as potential rapists until they prove otherwise and can be deemed as acceptable to their society. There are exceptions of course but they are pretty few. The tragedy for the American male is that he already treats women better than most of his troll counterparts do in other parts of the world. Maybe this is our problem and fault. Do yourselves a favor: start looking for South American or European women.

  207. maria November 12, 2013 at 9:01 am

    Awww this is so wonderful.
    I wish every ugly hairy ass pig man would read this.
    Leave America and never come back.Lol
    Go and infest some other countries women with your hideous ways and faces.
    The women their only want your money,,not you.
    So yeah, success.
    You may have a beautiful woman but your still ugly, doesn’t change anything about you and it doesn’t make you special.
    You just have money is all, a woman could go their and get a beautiful woman to with the right type of money.
    Everyone knows money is ruler of everything, so why is marrying a gold-digger so good again?
    MM that means more handsome sexy men will just be everywhere for us beautiful American women.
    Wait ugly American women you can leave too.
    Then America will have nothing but beautiful people having hot sex.
    Ahh such a marvelous place that would be 😉

  208. John Kievlan December 9, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    Heh. I wonder how many people notice the subtle hypocrisy in this article?

    See, this is what bothers me about so-called “nice guys.” Nice guys like, you claim, you were before you became this…whatever you are now.

    “You made it very clear that being nice, chivalrous, and patient was not the way to have sex with you.”

    Ah. They did, did they? Perhaps that was because being nice, chivalrous, and patient is not the way to have sex with a woman. Perhaps your confusion lies in the fact that, to you (and to most of those so-called “nice guys” out there), being “nice” was your pathetic and misguided attempt at game. You weren’t being nice because you genuinely wanted people to be happy and enjoy your presence. No, you were being nice because you thought, if you pretended to be nice long enough, girls would let you put your penis in them. In short…you were never actually nice, in any way, shape, or form. You were merely horny, and playing a part.

    From that perspective, I think your points make complete sense. Yep, trying to get laid by pretending to be nice is a chump move. It won’t work, it’s pathetically transparent, it’s boring, and just so you know, women tend to see through that act in about the time it takes to say, “Hi.”

    They see through your new and improved act too, by the way. It’s just that they’ve come to realize 99.99% of guys are playing some act or another, and so they shrug their shoulders and go for the most entertaining act, hoping there’s something genuine hiding under it. Your act now is quite entertaining so they humor you and give you a chance. Sadly for them, it’s still just an act. There still isn’t anything hiding behind it except your penis.

    Meanwhile — and this has got to really piss you off — there are men out there who get laid by *actually being* what you pretend to be. No, that doesn’t mean they commit to the first girl that gives it up, either. I’ll be honest — I haven’t found a relationship I chose to stay with yet, and I’m in my mid-thirties. However, I’m honest about that not only here, but to the women I sleep with. They understand that I won’t necessarily choose to be their Prince Charming, and that’s okay, because there are no lies. There’s no game. There’s no act. It’s just me being me.

    That, I think, is the right way for a man to be. It takes work, it takes understanding women, it takes attention to one’s appearance and intellect. But I’d rather do that work anytime than spend my time learning to play a ridiculous act that’s only intended to hide who you really are long enough to get your dick wet.

  209. John Kievlan December 9, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    Frankly, I like the way it was put in the movie Hitch. Now that guy is an example of a principled pick-up artist. He isn’t trying to pull the wool over a woman’s eyes. No, he’s just trying to help guys who really do have value show that to women in the best light, which is really what technique is all about. It’s about not letting bad luck or lack of confidence get in the way of letting a woman get to know you and appreciate you — not about tricking them into bed just long enough for a quick fuck.

  210. What's the deal? December 11, 2013 at 10:58 pm

    As one of your women readers, I have to admit your posts are always a fascinating look into the psyche of a man. I enjoy reading about your conquests and analyzing your theories about women in general.
    I am one of those bookstore types you’ve referred to, nice, sweet, giving, not into the nightlife, etc.. but somehow, I always end up left in the dust.. Everyone always says nice guys finish last, but it’s easy to forget about the nice girls who finish even further behind the nice guys :/ I don’t know if it’s my complete determination to never be “that girl” that keeps me from turning into a scalding bitch from the sad experiences I’ve had with men, maybe it’s hope that one day I really WILL find a nice guy. I had a nice guy once, was nice and sweet and appreciated everything he did for me, took care of him in turn, thought everything was great.. Only to find out that was cheating on me with a girl he worked with. They are still together and I have never seen a more harried, henpecked, bitched at constantly man in my entire life. I don’t get it. In my experience, men want bitches. Can anyone enlighten me?

    1. drudge February 10, 2014 at 7:55 am

      easy. you are probably ugly/uglier than her.

    2. LookersCanBeBitches February 22, 2014 at 8:51 pm

      Unfortunately, it’s probably about the looks, or the weight.

      I say this as a man who has:

      1) turned down a better lover for a better looker who was a bitch (regretted it.. did it anyway)

      2) been rejected many times for being too short, the epitome of male “looks-based” determinism

      I feel you 100% either way, sister and I’d probably be kind to you in person.

    3. Kris Kemp April 20, 2014 at 11:02 pm

      Men don’t want bitches. Men want nice girls, with soft voices, and nice figures and pretty faces. It’s also good if you have a passion for something–writing, playing music, some hobby–as it will keep you from depending on the man for all your happiness. Then, you make the move. If you see a guy, approach him. A lot of girls are so arrogant and bitchy that they turn off guys so guys don’t approach any girls, but only those that give him an IOI (indicator Of Interest). So, if you like a guy, give me an IOI and talk to him and ask him to hang out. You’ll be glad you did.

    4. Tammy Minton Haley September 16, 2014 at 2:29 am

      for god’s sake, have some dignity…these so-called “men” on these “Manosphere” sites aren’t capable of advising you on your love life…they HATE women–wtf do you think they’re going to tell YOU?

      do you realize the “men” on this site are either teenage boys, or hopelessly socially inept know-it-alls?

      these cretins aren’t “men”…they are nasty, little-dick punks that have to pretend they don’t care about girls…

      1. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 12:47 pm

        This is where your wrong.
        Bad luck, sister.

      2. Tammy Minton Haley April 2, 2015 at 9:07 pm

        …you’re an angry, bitter idiot…too bad for you, dumbass…

        go jack off now, goober…

        (notice the word “you’re”… that is called a ” contraction”…it is used in casual settings, instead of the more formal “you are”… learn something, for chrissake…)

      3. Odile Lee April 4, 2015 at 10:33 am

        I admit bad grammar, but its from long term disability vs education.

        As for “J- off”, charming.

        Do you speak to your mother with that mouth?

        Im a woman, by the way. As for bitter, and angry, argumentum e silento, ad hominem. Continuum fallacy. Moral high ground. I could go on.

      4. Odile Lee April 4, 2015 at 10:45 am

        You kiss your mother with that mouth?

      5. Tammy Minton Haley April 12, 2015 at 7:11 pm

        my mother’s dead, jackass

      6. Odile Lee May 1, 2015 at 10:49 am

        Im sorry. Please accept my apology for my remark.

      7. Tammy Minton Haley June 25, 2015 at 11:00 pm

        we all get a bit heated, honey…apology most accepted…

  211. Kyle January 9, 2014 at 12:33 am

    the wonderful thing about humans is that while we cannot control the thoughts in our brain and while we cannot control what sort of feelings we have, we CAN control how we react to those thoughts and feelings, therefore we CAN control how we act.

    stop blaming others for the problems you are too scared to face yourself. If anything, I pity you. You will never get a good woman and you will never experience a good woman because you do not deserve one of them.

  212. TonyThaTiger January 20, 2014 at 11:12 am

    Eminem status #NERD TO VERB LEGEND

  213. lasonn January 26, 2014 at 9:07 am

    it’s too obvious and i can’t believe it has to be said. a lot of women grew up seeing their ‘good mothers’ being cheated on by their fathers, who went for ‘bad girls’ who flirted with married men. The message? – men like ‘bad girls’. Sorry but it happened to daughters first. The mothers stayed at home, brought up the kids, then the fathers cheated and often replaced their mothers with younger, often aggressive, materialistic conniving bitches. Then you think the women did it to you? The men – the fathers, and husbands, and boyfriends — did it to the women first — let’s say, starting centuries ago. So voila — the men showed women that good girls go to heaven and bad girls go everywhere. I know a woman who had to stop dating a man who kept provoking her with mean remarks, even after a sweet ‘how are you?’ from her, because he seemed to like his women ‘tough’ and hard-talking. A lot of men out there do not want a nice woman, not really. They want one to feel safe and not get hurt, but they get bored with her and ultimately are more aroused and excited by bitches, whose ‘cockblocking’ as you call it, gives them the excitement of the ‘chase’. They want a ‘challenge’. You do not want a nice woman.

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  215. BonerWisdom April 21, 2014 at 5:38 am

    This is a great article. If you rely on thinking you will be forced to resort to all kind of rationalizations and compromises or to reject them. Nature does not need “relationships”. Men and women are not made to stay together more than what it takes to reproduce and to make sure the offspring is able to more or less survive on its own. Everything else is based on imposed value systems of various cultures. In nature there are only temporary relationships. Genes need to reproduce. In human beings, that is accomplished though intercourse. There is nothing else to it except the fantasies and expectations created by cultural values. Sex is just a simple biological need of the genes. They are interested in only two things – to survive, and to reproduce themselves. The body allows them to do just that. They are not interested in anything else. Sex has become a problem because it has been thought as an experience of pleasure instead of a basic biological need. Man an women have been manipulated into thinking there is much more to it in order to maintain a nurture a conflict for which various solutions have been and are being proposed by exactly the same ones who want to make sure they remain their slaves. Enter the “relationship” between a man and a woman which is based on the intellectualized images and expectations that the two have been taught to create for themselves of each other. The “relationship” is therefore between two images. But those images keep changing, and they can never be kept the same. That’s when when we’ve been taught to resort to romantic idealizations and we start using the word “love” as an attempt at keeping something that does not exist anymore and for which the organism has no need.

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  217. The Spirit Molecule May 21, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    This made me really happy to be European. Our women are nothing like this.

  218. yomama May 29, 2014 at 2:12 pm

    “Waaaah, waaaah, waaaah!” — RooshV

    So basically you’re saying that deep down, you’re TRULY a feminist and a “beta” male? You are such a pathetic piece of shit, really. This site makes me laugh, so thank you for that. And for not being in the USA.

    PS: I hope it shrivels up and falls off.

  219. Steve55 June 26, 2014 at 2:40 am

    Amen Roosh! Roosh V is 100% right in what he says. The truth hurts and that’s why women hate him so much. I have a blog called “global dating solution” that actually goes further by backing up roosh V’s points with real facts and expert articles which makes roosh’s points more than just opinion, but fact.

  220. Malachi Elias Girmann August 14, 2014 at 12:20 am

    Hell yes you did, you fucking forced me to become who I am when you left for the cock carousel in college instead of staying with me. You made me make you feel insecure about your looks damnit, I didn’t want to.

  221. G September 8, 2014 at 10:09 am

    Is this blog a joke?

    1. Anon October 4, 2014 at 3:15 am

      It’s a form of poetry

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  223. anonymous January 4, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    I’m a dude, but I’m just going to be objective.
    1. So you not getting laid is the fault of the women who have put you in the friend-zone? Get real. You don’t want them to expect you to be a mind-reader, so don’t do the same to them. Ask her if she wouldn’t mind becoming your partner/wife/date.
    2. She has every right to reject you, just as you have every right to reject her. Men don’t like clingy women who want their babies so much after the third date that they poke holes in the condoms. I’m sure women don’t like shallow men who are just in it for the sex. Women can take out restraining orders on men; men can take out restraining orders on women. Fair’s fair.
    3. And just in case there are any MGTOWs, men can report physical assault and battery by women. The law is impartial to gender in that area. Recall the 6’4” former footballer who slapped a woman who assaulted him on the New York Subway. The woman who slapped him now faces assault charges while he has been released instead. If men are too ashamed to report a physical assault by a woman for fear of appearing weak, then they really are weak because their brittle little egos cannot take a few other men thinking of them as pussies.

    1. Jim Christian March 28, 2015 at 11:53 pm

      Fuck you, White Knight. You girl. You positions won’t get you laid. They’re laughing at you.

  224. Erica February 19, 2015 at 5:34 pm

    This whole blog is just an excuse to blame women for who you’ve become. There is only one person responsible for who you are….. YOU. So take responsibility for yourself. The world is full of imperfect people, and no one has a perfect life…. but there is only one person that you can blame for your own life, and the choices that you have made, and the person that you have become. You make it sound like women are all the same person….. women are as varied, and as different as men. Some will screw you over, some have been screwed over. Some are victims, and are as screwed up as you are, and blaming the entire male race for their problems. In reality, everyone makes a choice about the person that they want to be, and about how they choose to react to the people who have hurt them. When you choose to accept responsibility for yourself, then the world begins to change. You want to change your world? Change yourself.

    1. Jim Christian March 28, 2015 at 11:51 pm

      Bullshit, Lady. Women made us what we’ve become. YOU take responsibility for what we ALL have become. We do what we do to satisfy the itch for that little furry hole women have. When being good to you doesn’t work, game does. Women aren’t varied or game wouldn’t work. Grow a penis, chase modern women and let us know when you got laid without SOME kind of game. Fuck you, Lady. You have no idea what it is out there for men. Easy for you, Bitch. Wag your finger, spread your legs, get some lovin’. We men have to be somebody. It’s ok, but don’t blame the present situation on us. You bitches created it FOR us. We’re just gaming the system women set up for us.

  225. Guest March 15, 2015 at 5:46 am

    You made me who I am, and every day you create one thousand men who are just like me.

    A very powerful line, Roosh buddy. Solid stuff.

  226. Odile Lee March 15, 2015 at 10:43 am

    No one should be treated so terribly. I feel for men. How could anyone not?
    ” A virtuous woman’s worth, is beyond rubies. ”

    Im ashamed for womankind.
    But they get what they deserve.

  227. Jim Christian March 28, 2015 at 11:46 pm

    Atta Boy, Roosh.

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  229. Jeff Clayton May 16, 2015 at 11:59 am

    You’re an emotional infant.

  230. Dougie Howser May 27, 2015 at 7:10 pm

    Wow straight talk and so true. Women are so full of shit, saying one thing and wanting another. Asian women are great but slowly getting wise to the white tricks. I could do without seeing another white woman.

  231. keithpr June 28, 2015 at 5:38 pm

    I was once that nice guy.. I was so good to women, I thought I was a great catch. Every last one of them cheated on me, lied, played me for a fool.. If they really were into me, then their friends would roll in and corrupt them. Finally one day I just stopped feeling and started treating them like meat, and wouldn’t you know.. 16 years later and one is still chasing after me. Treat them like dirt and they love you. Treat them like people and they just walk all over you. Sad truth.

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  234. FACEPALM August 11, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    So sad and pathetic. To quote another gentleman on here:

    Or it could be that you are the one who decided that getting yourself deep throated was more important to you than having a conversation with another human being?

    It could in fact be that its you, not the rest of the world, not the global economy, not women, not your parents, not your penis just you are as lonely as you’ve made yourself, on your own without any help from anyone?

    It could be that it IS your fault. And that wailing like an overgrown todler about how its anyone but you to blame is absolutely freakin’ pathetic.

    And I wouldn’t ask you to man up, I would ask you to actually think about yourself and wonder if you are anything like the person you want to be, or even if you are having fun anymore.

    and i will end it with someone from me. I hope you die alone and miserable and I’m fairly confident you will.

  235. BE RESPONSIBLE August 15, 2015 at 12:01 am

    Maturity means taking responsibility for your own life.
    Blaming an entire gender for your personal problems and inadequacies will not benefit your life in any real or meaningful way.

    If I were just like you, I could say the same thing. I could say…
    YOU made me disrespect men, the day YOU raped me. The day I said, “no”, and YOU forced yourself on me, I turned into a male-hating bitch. YOU don’t know the pain of having your trust in someone shattered. YOU don’t know what it feels like, to have something shoved inside YOUR body, against YOUR own will. How would YOU like to raped?

    YOU made me loose hope in marriage. YOU made me loose hope in men. YOU left me with a son, and a daughter. Now, my hatred will cause my son to feel inadequate and hate himself, and my daughter will learn to disrespect men. All because of YOU. YOU RAPIST. YOU POOR EXCUSE OF A HUMAN. YOU have RUINED MY LIFE. YOU are the reason why I disrespect men.

    Now, what good would that do?

  236. J August 24, 2015 at 2:38 pm

    Stupid idiot. A girl didn’t share the same feelings, waaaa, I’m going to create a stupid asshole cult following of men to ruin every women out there. Man the fuck up and move on. You’re a pathetic little prick.

  237. Laura February 1, 2016 at 9:50 am

    lmfao fucking beta male faggot

    1. RockOn February 12, 2016 at 9:43 pm

      Yes he was, until you did this to him!

  238. Lorina Harding February 2, 2016 at 2:07 am

    On behalf of all the women in the world who ignored your clearly desirable personage and forced you to become the asshole you are today, I apologise.
    We’re better than that and our behavior clearly was behind your decision to take down all women in a blazing inferno of testosterone.
    Wow, are we humbled before the might of such as yourself. Your wandering eye (sorry) has cast shame over us all and taught us that ALL women are shit and all men are kings! How could we have missed that?? Was it while you were banging away at our pussy’s without our consent? I guess I fell asleep.

    1. me February 7, 2016 at 11:54 am

      that was freakin awesome!

      *wild applause*

  239. Shiraz February 3, 2016 at 6:14 am

    dang, these just keep getting funnier and funnier! On to the next!

  240. Boyana Ivanova February 3, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    Dude, that sounds really sad. I am sure with an appropriate medical help you can return your trust in humanity and rebuild the desire for meaningful relationships. One night stands could be fun for a while in the early 20s, playing the big boy as well, but in the long run we all know the 40+ sad guy who is on his own at the bar, getting drunk and getting annoyed when young girls do not pay him attention and psychotically equally so when they actually do. I hope you find a way to recover from your sad experience and enjoy what life has to offer .

  241. Scha February 4, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    Hi, i’m sorry but this text is just disgusting. I mean, i’m a good girl, i never cheated, i always loved with respect. Unfortunately i just had fucked up boyfriend who lied to me, cheated on me and manipulated me. And i friend soo haaaard to make them understand that they don’t need do be like that, that i want to love them for the good part, not the selfish part. I was traumatize. Do i changed myself into a bitch because of that ? NO ! I’m not stupid an off to become a bitch just because stupids, immatures and irrespectfull guy. I know who i am, i am a good girl and i prefer to be a good girl. I don’t want to be the same kind of peace of shit that this guys, they don’t even deserve it !

    So be a men, love yourself, stop your fucking “i was hurt so i became an asshole” Come on grow up. You won’t even find someone good acting like this….

  242. disqus_1DvzUvvm5V February 5, 2016 at 6:01 am

    You misunderstood sex as being some sort of achievement or reward that you were entitled to. The entirety of your problem and the fact you are an asshole, derives from that.

  243. tracelle February 6, 2016 at 4:21 pm

    Good grief, this reads like that awful Kelly Clarkson song “…Because of you I never stray too far from the sidewalks…”

    How exactly did you expect women to respond to your laser-like focus on your biological urges? Chasing sex and chasing a relationship are two different things – did you account for that during all those disappointing pursuits?

  244. matt February 8, 2016 at 9:00 am

    Wow,could you be any more whiny?

  245. Rommulus February 9, 2016 at 9:46 am

    Everyday, a new man makes this his mantra.

  246. Viva February 23, 2016 at 1:34 am

    No. No, no, no. This is all wrong. She did not MAKE you into anything. She didn’t somehow force your hand. Acting like an entitled caveman was YOUR decision; don’t fucking blame her. Your emotions and sexual satisfaction are not her responsibility. They are your own.

  247. CanadianSamurai February 23, 2016 at 3:11 pm

    This is sadly true. Even worse, is afterwards you realize even the second path is wrong too.

  248. atil79 March 11, 2016 at 1:15 am

    This should be required reading for all men. This is exactly how it is.

  249. Joanna March 13, 2016 at 9:37 am

    I always wondered what happened to Roosh to make him hate women so much. I am sorry to hear that you were hurt so badly.

  250. Ali So August 1, 2016 at 5:50 am

    Or maybe you just weren’t what she wanted….

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  252. ConanTheBarbarian November 26, 2016 at 11:55 am

    Shit dude, just found this article……..true……anyway, let’s get passed the moment of self blame and pity and get this :

    The Frankfurt institutions that injected the viruses of feminism, lgbt-ism, black-ism, racism – which all have deeply calculated roots in Marxism – have been brought to the USA via moscow moguls.

    It’s all part of the un-seen war that communism has spawned against God.

    In my country all this shit is now obvious.

    Surprised that the USA doesn’t even see who’s fucking it.

    Your enemy’s are basking in the shadows, stabbing you by teaching your children to rebel against the very forms of liberty that gave you power – listening to the laws of God.

    Brothers in faith !

  253. Resistance Breeds Hope November 27, 2016 at 9:09 pm

    Surely there has to be a deeper response to the horror of feminism than learning game to sleep with dozens of women.

    1. Jim Johnson July 10, 2017 at 6:23 pm

      There is………This post is 6-7 years old. Since then, Roosh has went from the angry, selfish stage, to the more mature, looking beyond and looking for traditional life stage.

  254. Zeedine March 20, 2017 at 4:01 am

    John 8:32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

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  256. Adam March 26, 2018 at 8:49 am

    woooohoooooo well written!! brings a smile to my face just how accurate this is..fucking love roosh

  257. Tanya West June 8, 2018 at 3:36 am

    You really should not be so hard on your mom. I am sure she did her best.

  258. Chuoyao Zhang August 29, 2018 at 4:24 pm

    Most men learned this in a hard way, usually through an ex he loves so much that eventually broke his heart. But instead of women who are permanently hurt by their alpha ex bf, men hit their bottom but eventually man up, moving to search for a hotter pussy.

  259. Renelle Holly September 14, 2018 at 3:35 pm

    Nope you need to take responsiblity for your behaviour and decisons even though all you said above is true.

  260. Andy September 23, 2018 at 12:36 pm

    What I don’t understand is: do you want to interact with a “human being [you] wanted to build something with” or just have sex as much and as fast as you could to fulfill your “biological urge of sleeping with [a girl]”? These just seem two different goals to me. I don’t mean to judge, I just want to understand the argument made here

  261. RS October 1, 2018 at 8:23 pm

    As an American woman (I feel the cringes) all I can say is it’s true that most women are like this. I dated a guy who treated me bad for 3 years and I finally broke things off. Completely quit dating for 4 years and did nothing physical with anyone, no kissing or anything. Then I met my husband who had been married to a sociopath/feminist. She dumped him for her next flavor of the month. She was married 2 other times before him. He said he believed all her lies about why she divorced her last two husbands. So when him and I met, we both had been tired of games and lies. We were friends for a year, then more. 5 years later I’m so thankful for a kind man like him. My point of all this is, most American women are like you say, Roosh, but there are a few exceptions. Im far from being a perfect woman but I have my faith, my belief in traditional gender toles and being a kind and nurturing woman to the man that has your heart. I know you’re a bit callous to the ways of women these days and righfully so, but there are a few decent ones. Just becoming so hard to find.