You Will Never See Her Again

The easiest way to fail with women is to expect to see them again, whether you have already had sex with them or not. Their increased options on the dating market combined with a decreasing attention span and zero tolerance for being “bored” or “weirded out” means that most of your encounters with women will have a fleetingly short lifespan. Unless you are always closing, you won’t even receive a scrap of sexual reward.

My natural propensity when it comes to sex is to have at least some semblance of seduction. While I can get aroused at the sight of a beautiful woman, I like to ramp up to sex through a process of basic conversation, touching, comfort, kissing, heavy petting, and then sex. If that process takes less than 2 or 3 hours, rushed to the sexual end by horny drunk girls like I experienced in Scandinavia, the overall pleasure I receive will be low and strange feelings are sure to surface.

I am able to wait two or three dates for sex (or longer) with a girl that I like, but unfortunately I have no choice but to pursue sex that is much more rapid than that, almost to the point of it being unnatural. If there was a guarantee that a woman I went on one date with would show up for the second or third, I would have no need to drag her back to my cave with some ruse to “listen to music” or “drop off my bag,” but rush it I must, because before sex a girl has as much attachment to me as the brand of vodka that goes in the cocktails she drinks on a weekend night.

If you make only a couple small mistakes on a first date and fail to get sex, she will over-analyze them, maybe even broadcasting it on her social networking accounts for a reward of ten likes, and come to the firm conclusion that you are a sub-standard male who is not deserving of her vagina, even though you would have fucked her proper if you pushed it hard the night you had her out. This is the result of a society that encourages a woman to fuck for emotional reasons (he’s sexy, I’m turned on right now) instead of logical (he’s a good man, he will make me happy in the long term).

The less investment a girl has into you, the faster you must push the interaction to sex, even if it does not feel wholly natural to you. If you’re meeting her through standard game methods (day, night, or internet), her investment is definitely low, even if she puts on the nice girl act that she just broke up with her boyfriend of six years and is looking for something serious. Even worse—and I don’t mean to depress you further—is that fucking her is really no guarantee she’ll reply to your next text message a few days later.

It used to be that when your penis was inside a girl, you’d get at least a future courtesy date, but now even that is going out the window, because by the time you contact her for another encounter, she’s already on the next guy who can better fulfill whatever degenerate fantasy the media has installed into her brain. If keeping a girl on the line is hard enough when you already fucked her, I’m sure you can understand the importance of pushing all interactions to the bed as quickly as you reasonably can before that.

The biggest mistake you can do is assume you will ever see her again, even if she made a declaration that she likes you, enjoyed the conversation, and can’t wait to meet for a future date. You’ll walk out of that bar thinking you have a solid prospect on your hands and then not even thirty minutes later another guy gives serves up a decent enough game that in her mind makes her think a little bit too hard on whether you are as worthy as she initially thought. The dating market is so fluid and free, with such little lag for the time it takes girls to meet new men, that sitting on a girl’s number for more than three days has the same effect as throwing it in the garbage can.

If an approach I make today goes well, I must absolutely try to fuck her the same day even if I was not really in the mood. I have over ten years of game data that tells me the majority of phone numbers will not lead to sex, and so if I don’t do all that I can to seal the deal that same night, I might as well put her number in a bottle, throw it in the ocean, and then pray it somehow comes back to me before I die. Girls have trained men that unless their value is absolutely explosive in their eyes, a rare occurrence, they will barely get better treatment than the tattooed barista at Starbucks. As long as a girl is speaking to you and giving you her attention, you must go all the way. Otherwise, I would gladly take the bet that you won’t ever sleep with her.

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“The dating market is so fluid and free, with such little lag for the time it takes girls to meet new men, that sitting on a girl’s number for more than three days has the same effect as throwing it in the garbage can”

This reminds me of the idea of liquidification of love, its conversion into a consumer good, as announced by a Polish philosopher:
http://www.zengestrom.com/blog/2003/05/bauman-on-liquid-love.html

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It’s like 80% of your texts are more less about competition, other men, suitors, internet options for women – you got to be very insecure and scared of any other men. I assume you realize you are not attractive for women, type of your turkish/middle eastern looks scares almost all white women. I do not believe you actually have any sex with attractive girls without money involved.

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You are a moron.

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you are a sycophant .

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Haha, good game can get even fat losers like you laid, start reading up.

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Guys with “Turkish/middle eastern looks” are the ones pounding those sweet eastern European pussies most. Some of them probably pounded your mom while you were hiding in the closet and trying to close your ears. Poor fella..

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In the spirit of trolling, while your out “pounding that sweet european pussy” me and my buddies are organizing trains on your sister Yasmina. Seriously you shouldnt have left them all alone while you were out trying to get laid with girls to high for your pay grade. Dont worry, no need to thank me for enriching your family’s genetic material. It was my pleasure.

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If it wasn’t for rape you would never get laid.

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“I assume you realize you are not attractive for women” – You don’t like Roosh. Therefore, no other girls in the universe must like him.
Nice reasoning.

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What are you trying to achieve by this?

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Roosh is average looking for a Turkish guy, I doubt he has trouble landing girls. Polish dudes I know only fuck polish girls and get married to polish girls, because most polish men look like grown man-babies. I have many polish friends and I was always able to come to show up at birthdays and weddinga and clean house fairly quickly (I’m Balkan). Not only are most polish men unattractive, they also have no sense of style, game, and listen to shitty music but they are hard workers, can fix anything, and are great providers so landing a wife is not hard when you can work like a mule for some C – pussy.

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Does this just apply to American girls like what you met in NYC, or do you think this tendency is spreading to Eastern Europe now too?

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Are you specifically talking about just the US market?

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A common misconception a lot of people have is that guys are sexual heathens who just want to fuck a girl once and then move onto the next one, leaving a wake of crying girls who have been used in their wake. And while this does happen, in college I realized that guys are more than willing to see a girl a second or third or hundredth time after a date or hook up. They have to invest more in getting with a girl so they want to make sure they get the most out of it.

But since women hold the keys to sex they also hold the keys to their own slutty-ness. I found out very quickly in college that just because you and a girl go on a date/make out/have sex, that doesn’t mean she’ll stick around. Again, since the woman doesn’t have to invest as much in these early interactions then she has less incentive to stay with you. In addition, guys are also attracted to looks, so if a girl is hot enough he’ll jump through her hoops as long as it means he gets to keep fucking her. But a woman is attracted to men through emotions which change day-by-day. She could be insanely hot for you one minute and then be cold and completely forget you exist the next for the most inane of reasons.

I’d say that if you fuck a girl within hours of meeting her but then she goes cold on you or disappears forever the next day, then she just did you a favor. After all, women are supposed to be guarded with their sexuality. So unless you’re a super catch who’s way out of her league, chances are she’s just an easy girl who will open her legs for anyone – While you’re thinking about how hot she is and how much you wanna fuck her again, to her you’re just another guy she banged on a Friday night and your name and face will be lost in the ether. And as has been said before, the more sexual partners a girl has had, the harder she’ll be to love.

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“I’d say that if you fuck a girl within hours of meeting her but then she goes cold on you or disappears forever the next day, then she just did you a favor”

My sentiment exactly. Today’s females are only good for pump and dump. As was stated earlier, these are end times for guys wanting to find that special someone and settle down; it’s just hook-up culture now. Sad, really.

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Once sluttiness is established (with an innocuous question such as “are you living a rich and varied sex-life?”) the option to walk away and ego-starve exists.

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Roosh,
If men are preoccupied with closing, maybe they’ll be less likely to enjoy themselves. Self-conscious thoughts may emerge killing their game. So it seems counterproductive to focus on closing asap. I think going on a date without expectations may lead to better interactions for the men and women involved.

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You’re wearing out your welcome. Don’t give men advice.

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There is some advice in here, and that is this= if you happen to be going out with no intention of pursuing women, keep your eyes open for opportunities because this is a likely time when they present themselves.

It’s a corollary to the “women flirt with the married man” syndrome.

Of course, she can’t explain it worth a damn.

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That’s not what I’m talking about.

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Whoever said you was one?

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Ok. I won’t.

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Understand you now why trp is bad?
You do a advice with good intention but they refuse it because you are a woman.this is the world that you want? A world where men refuse to understand what a woman is saying? A world where men refuse women aargumentns because this are made by a woman. A world where men dont give value to your good intentions?

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Men did understand everything you say but look around to what women did with it. Is this the world you want to live in?

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Im only know this world, i only have 19 years and i dont want this world but this world is better than trp world. If i have to choose between this world or a trp world, i prefer this world.
¿was the women who destroyed it that you want?
No, they didnt. It is more easy to say that was the women who did it but the things usually dont happen for only one reason.
The things that happen in the society have a lot of reasons for happen.

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I get the sense that you would prefer women not post here at all. I can understand, from your perspective, why, but Andrea is not posting insulting, name call replies. Sometimes, getting advice about the opposite sex from the opposite sex can be useful. I personally found when I was single that getting a man’s perspective was at times more useful than sitting with a group of women all feeding into a common delusion that men suck. That was never helpful.

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The cows are incapable of teaching the farmers how to milk it.

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But the farmers seem to not have any cows, based on the many posts of farmers complaining about lack thereof.

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This argument is demagogic, the only reason because cows are incapable to teach the farmers is because they dont speak. Women can speak.

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“Sometimes, getting advice about the opposite sex from the opposite sex can be useful.”

Sometimes asteroids crash into the Earth, too. In either case the event is not terribly frequent or desirable.

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Indeed. Tis the exception rather than the rule. And she was probably rehashing second hand information she acquired from an old player boyfriend anyway.

Sometimes my girlfriends stop bitchin’ for 5 minutes. Only occasionally and always because I’ve just bought them dinner or shoes.

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They only give advice to make men’s behavior more predictable.

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Men being the Logical sex will 9 outta 10 ALWAYS give advice of some usefuleness. Women on the other hand think with their fweelings, there for they tend to give advice based on what they feel is right rather than what actually is.

As any man who has ever tried female advice knows – women have next to no idea what works or what they want.

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Exactly. Hence my cow & farmer analogy which the 2 posters (white knight & the genie)above failed to pick up on.

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Harsh . . . but true.

I don’t like the idea of chasing women away but . . it’s hard to deny the logic. It’s hard to believe that they could understand any of this.

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Following the advice of women only got me friend-zoned, called “creepy” or passed over for being “too nice.” Women don’t give men advice to up their game. They give advice to make him a beta enabler.

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She only wants to set parameters to keep others within them while operates outside them.

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I respect you. I also want to say that the game you teach is extremely effective. The man I care about has game and we’re able to have mind blowing sex. However, I think that if we want to develop real intimacy, we must open up, break our walls down, and connect without games. If we want to make love, the type that transcends the body and feeds the soul, we have to be real and forget about game sometimes.

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Nice try. Men have to retain their logic at all times. We know that if we let our emotions take over, we’re just playing into female hands. Emotions are a woman’s game and we know that if we play it, we’ll lose every time. “Trust and you’ll be trusted” said the con man to his mark.

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I’m really sorry you feel that way. There are a lot of manipulative women, I used to be one. But I became aware of my baggage and made a conscious decision to change. It hasn’t been easy and I basically have to check my thoughts and the emotions they create regularly to become a healthy, loving, honest, giving, compassionate person. I’m lucky to know other women that are on this path. To meet women that truly get to love you, first you must truly know and love yourself.

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Bullshit. Manipulators like you never truly change. You’d go right back to the same games you used to play if you could get away with it. It’s just that you are not nearly as attractive as you used to be and you’ve finally realized that you can’t play the same games because your beauty has faded and you probably have a couple of kids from the “bad boys” you adore so much. You don’t feel remorseful. You’re terrified and lonely now that you’re way past your prime.

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Interesting observation. I am terrified but finally aware of it. I’ve been an anxious person all my life but now I have the knowledge and tools to change.

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I couldn’t truly love myself until I finally exorcised women from my life. Strange how that works……

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What a bunch of horse shit

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What a load of horse shit

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Don’t give advice to sociopaths.

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You might have a point. But then every girl knows on an instinctive and primal level that every guy whose with them is purely there because they want to sleep with them.

Hardly any girl I’ve ever been with in the past before I learned social dynamics has ever respected me for taking my time. Most of them, I never saw again or got delegated to the friend zone. All because I wasn’t aggressive enough to make things happen.

Your point might make some sense if it was said in the 60’s. But times have changed.

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I completely agree. Just keep in mind that if after meeting a woman you like, having sex with her and deciding to pursue a mini or long term relationship all you have to do is be yourself, have strong personal boundaries, and have fun. Roosh can be nice and considerate without turning into a beta enabler. Why? Because he knows himself, he has strong boundaries and doesn’t give a f÷#!. All this translates to confidence which is what makes us tingle, respect and love a man. DISCLAIMER: none of the above was advice. Just my take on the matter.

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I agree. I often say that before sex, the woman has the power. After sex, the man has the power… Why? Because it’s a man’s job to attract a girl into his life, and a woman’s job to keep him around and commit.

The minute I tell this to guys who are having problems in their relationships, it completely turns them around for the better.

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I tried being myself. I may as well have tattooed the word “SUCKER” across my forehead. Cynicism was a learned behavior and women were the best teachers.

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Oh.” the just be yourself” canard. I think Rollo @ The Rational Male has thoroughly debunked that bull shit. No guy I know just running around ” being himself” is drowning in top shelf pussy. Come to think of it they’re not tapping any pussy

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It wasn’t advice. Roosh checked me already and I agreed to abide by his rules. Trust me I understand what you’re saying. I guess I still have hope for healthy relationships and it takes two. I’m an anthropologist at heart and gender relations are extremely interesting. I try to offer my perspective with respect and consideration of the male angle that’s all.

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After three marriages, I wish the women in my life would go away forever. Even later in life (yes things get even better with age) I want the woman to go away forever after the novelty wears and the shit begins. Women are not much fun when they overstay their expiration date. Be careful what you wish for young men.

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“…Women are not much fun when they overstay their expiration date.”

Put that way, it sounds more and more that women ARE like fish (ironically, ‘they need a man like a fish needs a bicycle’) and they age like fish, too.

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After three marriages. Hmmmmmm……

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The best way I’ve ever heard it put was: “You don’t pay a prostitute to have sex with you. You pay her to leave immediately afterwards.”

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You’ve answered whatever is tormenting your soul with this one sentence at the very end:

“Girls have trained men that unless their value is absolutely explosive in their eyes, a rare occurrence, they will barely get better treatment than the tattooed barista at Starbucks.”

I am a firm believer in conveying high value status: Executive car, bespoke slim fit suit, swanky pad etc.

Negging, disqualifying, kino and the rest of it are pointless given the illimited choice on offer for women, combined with their limited attention span.

You stand there, looking cool and expensive, and her choice will be between you, a sure value she can bank on, or yet another sweating monkey in an overcrowded nightclub performing a pathetic baboon-esque mating ritual.

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If I had that much cash, I’d be shipping 11/10 escorts by the busload.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, debt impresses only the shallow and stupid.

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Nobody mentioned piling on debt.

I meant making earning actual cash a priority before hitting
the mating market. Otherwise going in there as a penniless Joe with “game” is pretty pointless.

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I have spoken to and worked for actual millionaires. (Sadly I didn’t manage to game my way into their will wink

I see your point re-reading your post (Disregard females. Acquire currency. Then let them gravitate to you)

They are not supermen though. They are just as prone to spineless acts and betatude in the face of pussy. They have a whole lot more to lose, too.

As the old saying goes, he’s not paying for the fuck, he’s paying her to fuck off right afterwards.

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There has to be a balance. Sure stack paper. But you’d better be learning game on your way up, because $ or no $, you’ll get eaten alive at the top too.

I know a handful of millionaires, and 2 billionaires. What’s funny is the billionaires are both fucking horrible with women. I think they’re almost scared of them… can you blame them? Haha.

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Its a race to the top that never ends. Today you get an executive car, slim fit suit, swanky pad and go compete with all the other men who are doing it to get laid, the standard will just go up more tomorrow and soon you’ll need a yacht or private jet just to get laid. Its pretty foolish at this point. Just opt out.

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“Its pretty foolish at this point. Just opt out.”

THIS.

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Its a fools game to rely on status and money to get girls. For every guy busting his ass to build a life and provide security for himself and his future wife. There’s a jobless, aloof asshole whose likely fucking the same girl the guy with swag is working hard for.

Don’t be fooled by society’s idea of what girls want. It’s all designed and rigged for corporations to make money.

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Yep I just wear jeans, shirt and good boots.I go to a corporate after work bar and bang I get approached over the blokes in suits.
As a mate of mine says these guys just aren’t a threat.Some clubs down here won’t even let guys in suits in after a certain hour.
I accidentally crashed a party of a famous upmarket men’s clothing brand who basically specialise in suits.I ended up having 4 women staff and 1 gay fighting over me.I banged one of girls in the disable toilet.The woman in charge of marketing came to talk to me and told me I could drink on the company bar tab,the CEO came talk to me, he was from the wrong side of town ,same as me.He also told the bar staff to make sure I was on his tab.
Every man in the place had a well fitted suit on except me.I wore G star jeans, Italian boots and well fitted Guess shirt to show off the guns rounded off with an Omega watch….But that also means nothing as I have been successful with shorts and a T shirt on in some bars.
Last night I was dressed in my normal manner and got rejected hard by a Russian girl,I had no frame,mentally drained and not ready I was weak ,unsure of myself but I still approached…I put the Russian on a pedestal,I let her lead me she called the shots and I rightly got fucking slaughtered for being a weak cunt…It had nothing to do with my clothes just a lapse in or weak game on my part.Fuck, to be honest I had zero game last night.

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Completely false. Yes those things you mentioned work, but you’re essentially playing the provider game. Meanwhile, that same girl you’re trying to impress is getting anal fucked by a jobless retard on his cheap dirty bed sheets.

Doesn’t take much to fuck hot girls. Just raw animalistic sexual intent. Thats worth much more to girls than what car you drive.

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So true – I’ve lost at least 5 prospects by believing in the myth that there would be a second date or third date to make up for the first; I actually thought it would be a faux pas to make a move too soon. The truth is, if a girl goes on a date with you it’s either all or nothing. She doesn’t want the story of “we gradually grew to love each other”, she wants the story “our passion was immediate, hot and irresistible”.

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“…She doesn’t want the story of “we gradually grew to love each other”, she wants the story “our passion was immediate, hot and irresistible”.”

A girl like that needs to be ‘next’-ed; she’s been reading too many Harlequin romance novels.

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“A girl like that needs to be ‘next’-ed; she’s been reading too many Harlequin romance novels”

Then you best plan on nexting every girl you meet and becoming a monk, because thats the kind of hormonal driven animals that are out there toay.

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This use to be true, but these Harlequin romance pornographic novels have become so widespread that almost all young women under 25 have been infected by it. Now women want a man like 50 shades of grey who swoops in and fucks their brans outs. Before it use to be you can gradually game a girl over 2-3 dates then bang. Now you must practically be fucking her from the time you meet her or you lose her altogether.

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The truth is, if a girl goes on a date with you it’s either all or nothing.

I noticed this too lately. In general if they get out of their house to meet you on a first date, they’re pretty much DTF. What happens after that is not important. Just as the article says. You may or more probably may not see her again.

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Entertaining enough post , but is it satire ?

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I must be living on the other side of paradise. The girls I meet are usually normal personality and very nice to me , and have sex within a reasonable amount of time without pressure or external forces . I treat them nice as well ( I know , against the rules ) . I don’t have hard and fast rules , just go with the flow . Usually they want to be in a relationship , if we part ways its amicable . <——-Is he weird ??????

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It’s clearly a problem that’s more relevant if you’re a guy who is a bit mediocre across the bored or who is a bit delusional about his value. Guys love to blame the girl for being a skank rather than facing the fact that she gave him a fair shot and he just wasn’t good enough. The overwhelming majority of chicks are eager to settle down and date a good looking/successful guy. When the guy is strong across the board and the girl is within his league minor missteps are rarely deal breakers.

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That’s a load of crap. Probably only true in a social circle setting where bad behavior has a modicum of consequence. Even then if the girl is young enough she will dump you after two years if she thinks she can trade up.

Also, what kind of bullshit proposition is that? If you are good enough then the girl will want to marry you, so only go out with girls who’d be sure to think of you as a catch? You’d need a two point differential in value to be that captivating (male 8 dating a female 6). Then again given the increasing bifurcation of women into either goldfish or land whales it may just come to that, sadly.

Plus both partners would eventually be bitter. Value differential = unhappines -> resentment -> bitterness

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Unfortunately their head is completely screwed up by the culture. A 6 will think she’s a fucking 8.. That’s where the problem is…

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Yes. A lot of the men here, regardless of their age, focus on girls 18 to 24, the age group least likely to stick to one guy. Older women tend to not have so many deal breakers like whether the guy has car less than 2 years old and stupid stuff like that. Unfortunately, a woman who is 30 plus is seen as unworthy, those typically these women would likely be the most accepting of men and have less high school drama. A lot of women I know actually are looking for a guy who is nice and decent, whether they have a six pack or not. Some men here may call this desperation due to hitting the wall, but what’s a 40 year old trying to bed an 18 year old girl?

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You are getting this all wrong. You have to understand a 35 some year old guy will always look for an at least 15 years younger woman(within age legal limits). It’s simply how it works, call it biology and everything else we talk about here and on ROK.
A 40 yo with an 18.. yeah, it’s pushing it.. On the same token, a 30 yo woman should have no business looking for a below 45-50 yo man but they do.. I’m not going to even bring up how used up millage wise a woman in her 30s is. Here’s a question for your girlfriends: how come they couldn’t snatch a good guy while they were in their 20s? Maybe they were not interested to begin with because riding the cock carousel was too much fun at a time.

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Most of the attached women I know are with men a few years older than them, 5 years tops. In fact I bet if you looked at the attached people you know you will find many if not most do not have a 15 year age difference. A 15 difference is the exception, not the norm. Not saying that age difference is wrong, just saying it’s not the norm. Most if my single girlfriends are still single because they kept looking for something better, they were picky I’m not arguing that fact as it is common in attractive young women to be picky when they know there are tons of men vying for their attention. And yes, that pickiness bit some of them in the ass and they know it now. Not all of them slept around either, they were just vain and picky and were a bit shallow in their approach. I’m not sure if that has anything to do with feminism.

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The state of affairs today has everything to do with feminism. Your girlfriends married within a 5 years difference were lucky enough to snatch a beta in the waiting after they’ve got through the wall. Those were men they didn’t care about while riding the carousel in their 20s. These are the most beta men you can get and I bet your friends despise them for having to settle with them.

The 15 years difference is the perfect age difference, and because people don’t match that way doesn’t make it any less perfect.

Women have a very narrow window they can marry and be happy for a good part of their lives (not the “till death do us part” that’s the biggest lie out there). If they miss it, good luck.

The pickiness you talk about is due to the distorted image women in general have about themselves. They really think they’re worth more than what they are. The other side they aspire to mate with say “nope”. Pump and dump and sends them their own way.

Feminism, the slutting around rendered women useless except for sex, and so men these days do exactly that: use them for sex and that’s that. Men don’t care about how much money you make or what kind of degree you have. That’s never going to give a boner. Men care about how feminine you are, if you have your man’s back, you are not a slut and you can take care of children. These things will never change no matter how much feminism denies it.

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THIS! Well said, sir.

I am astonished at how many women think that their degree or job gives them some sort of added value in the SMP.

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And no matter how much they make, they’ll still insists upon marrying up. Women getting degrees and having careers has only made their hypergamy worse.

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Exactly! And they’re still unhappy. Much like children after getting a shiny new toy, they still want more.

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Women in their 30s really piss me off. It’s like saying “I guess I’ll settle for you.” I don’t want to be someone’s silver or bronze medal. And that’s exactly what any man they are with is going to be at that point. They’ll always fantasize about the “bad boy” they couldn’t quite nail down. They can keep their baggage and start collecting cats.

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Here’s the issue with that strategy. The leagues themselves are becoming skewed. Guys I would normally describe as an 8-8.5 to a girl, are struggling to nail down LTRs or on-going FBs, with 7s and 6s.. and I’m using that scale NOT just based on looks, but over all value as well.

I just dumped a girl who started off as a 7.5, and got released as a 6.5-6 by me years later… and for many good reasons. The guys 5-7 years younger than me who are a little better looking, even potentially have their shit together better than me, are coming in droves to snatch her up.. It’s almost comical to watch, and worrisome.

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No, just a fabulist.

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No, you’re being a nice normal person with an open mind and going with the flow like you said. Less expectations less disappointment and eventual bitterness. Some men and some women have such high expectations that they never find what they’re looking for and pass up on potentially great girlfriends and boyfriends.

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As I said a 6 woman thinks she’s an 8, and so men have to dumpster dive for scrapes while the 6 will never find what she thinks she deserves. Men lower their standards (thirsty betas that is). Women never, due to their innate hypergamy; but their own value is distorted..for the most part the culture/society turned women completely delusional..

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I don’t usually see ugly girls with decent looking guys in my city but I agree that a lot of women think they are far more attractive than they actually are.

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I think women are rounding the cusp in America from being just hypergamous – i.e. jumping from one cock to the next but not overlapping – to flat out sluttiness where more and more are banging multiple guys simultaneously and hiding it well.

Just a few years back, pre-smart phone explosion, pre-Tinder, pre-Instagram, when FB was in mid-stride, my skills in the sack were the same or worse than they’ve evolved to now. My game was definitely worse, but most girls I’d fuck, would then get somewhat clingy after a few weeks or month of sex.

The usual daytime texts start rolling in, and pre-relationship behavior starts where they seek more time with me. My experience in the past few years has been that you have to game them more and more. If you think women don’t practice having one guy for emotions (and fucks), another for great sex (obviously fucks), and another for status who she’s attracted to for his alpha-clown-act (and fucks), you’re fooling yourself.

Just add up what any girl’s life you are with consists of (time wise), especially if you get an inside look at her weekly routine. If there’s large gaps where you’re not part of it, or even considered for a text or phone call.. someone is filling it.. as well as her haunches. Gone are the days of “busted dudes” test, where guys who’re uglier than their women are raking in pussy. I see guys left n right, 1-3 points higher in looks than their women courting these sluts like queens.

Men with game are being forced into a state of hyper abundance. I used to do fine with 3-7 women I was in contact with, banging 2-3+ of them over a few months. Now I need about a dozen prospects minimum with #’s and established convos or dates to produce the same results, despite having improved myself since then.

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If a girl is attractive and I have sex with her, and give it my best effort, I always get them coming back. I can only think of once when I had sex with a girl and gave 100% and she did not come back or return communication. This excludes vacation and spring break sex encounters. Even with girls I had sex with the same day I meet them I always get repeat customers. Strangely enough that one who did not come back was one of the most attractive girls I have ever had sex with, I really wish I could have hit it more than once…

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Modern women are confronted with such abundance of choice on the sexual market place, and have such cushy lives, it has become increasingly common for them to respond only to supernormal stimuli* from potential suitors.

Normal stimuli that signal mate suitability (i.e. like not being fat, having a normal body shape, average looks, etc.) do not or barely elicit any response from modern women anymore. Hence the increasing need to act like a clown to entertain them, expensive brand clothing, immaculate haircuts, working out for 5/6 days a week to build muscle, roids (since working out regularly can only get one so far), being a narcissist, rich, etc.

Unless there is some kind of major correcting event, it will get worse in the near future.

*i.e. exaggerated version of a stimulus to which there is an existing response tendency, or any stimulus that elicits a response more strongly than the stimulus for which it evolved. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernormal_stimulus

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^^
This man gets it

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“Is the overly aggressive alpha (as an example) actually the better man in the sense of more adaptive?”

That’s the question. Can we speak of “more adaptive” if we don’t know how their reproductive succes correlates with their signaling strategy? If they produce the tingles and get the lay, but don’t produce offspring, can we describe their strategy as adaptive? Terms like “fitness” and “adaptive” derive their meaning with respect to some gene pool. An evolutionary dead-end is just that, regardless of whether this alpha had intercourse with two hundred hot, fertile women.

We have modern birth control, which is -at the moment- entirely the prerogative of women. This is the primary driving force behind the “party years” period of a modern woman’s life. In earlier times, a sexual encounter with a male would be “riskier” for a fertile woman, in the sense she could become pregnant. Modern birth control, however, enables “vine swinging”; sexual indulgence.with little risk. Thanks to modern technology, sex has become detached from reproduction.

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And the birth control paired with vine swinging is where many hot young modern girls (in US and Canada) are in their lives. Not all, but many of the ones at bars clubs etc. If I was a guy looking for hot non slutty young women I’d join a book club, or some social event or group that doesn’t involve booze. Many non slutty women happen to also be relatively smart, non shallow, have interests and hobbies outside of partying. Don’t go to the ant hill if you’re looking for honey. I know my two cents is not invited here but I’m just saying.

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I know my two cents is not invited here but I’m just saying.

It’s up to Roosh, but I think you are one of the few able to see some of the problems and can be reasoned with.

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It’s domestication and urbanization pure and simple.

No natural predators and cushy life leads to the ‘entertaining’ one being preferred. However, the peacock is significantly easier to hunt than an eagle. They’d lose those tails quite quickly if they had more natural predators and a harsher environment. There are no peacocks in cold climates. Every animal in those countries are brown/white/grey and they don’t prance around.

It’s also really important to understand that the western virus really is just that, a western phenomenon. I’ve been spending time now in Central/East Europe for the first time ever, and low and behold I found it to be like in South East Asia, girls being girly and submissive and laughing at stupid shit I say, which a scandi girl wouldn’t bat an eye at. This is the normal state of women.

Of course, what does EE and SEA have in common? Low tax, consequence to fucking up.

A lot of this is economics. If all men began voting for small gov, then we’d have squashed this feminism thing in 10 years. However, a significant portion of men, minorities and weaklings as pr. Roosh last post, vote left and they are the vote that decides.

It really is this simple, less government means more feminine women, simple as that. Let me know one country with a small government where the girls are feminist (the US has a massive government).

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Thanks for sharing your experience. I totally trust what your’e saying, I just need to see it for myself.
It will be interesting to see how the west’s experiment works out.
Will this generation just grow up to be a bunch of manginas and spinsters?
And most curiously, will they be happy living that kind of life?

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Imo, Roosh has it right for ‘our’ generation, if you’re an adult now, don’t wait for the crash, learn game make money. I personally think it can be something like 10-15 years more before the EU crashes, the US defaults etc. It can also get very ugly if and when that happens.

Best bet is to learn game and make money, bang girls with game or go abroad and if you want a wife, get a foreign girl, if that’s ok with your beliefs of course. I hesitate personally with getting an Asian girl, even if I have yellow fever, because I don’t want to have kids growing up feeling lost between two cultures. Unfortunately, for everyone but the apex alphas in my country, it is close to impossible to find a girl below 30 interested in a serious relationship who hasn’t already banged half the town.

Therefore, best not to get caught up in revenge and apocalypse fantasies, but work on raising your level.

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100% Agree.
I’m not waiting for the collapse.
Another manosphere author Aaron Clarey always says “enjoy the decline” but that always sounded a little too fatalistic to me. “Enjoy the decline” sounds too much like be lazy and don’t try, even if that isn’t exactly what he meant.
Raising power level + make money + moving to where there is opportunity seems like the most sane thing to do. I don’t expect any kind of real backlash to come anytime soon or anything… So long as I can go where and do what I want, I don’t really care what everyone else is up to.

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I say that we’re fucked. Once I get everything together, off to Asia with me.

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Yeah same.
It’s taking me a while to get everything sorted but I know I’ll get it together if I just stay consistent. Gl.

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Thanks. Same to you.

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Interesting view point I haven’t considered. Thanks for contributing to the “think tank”

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The worse part of it all, is while men have to step their game up, women are getting fatter and uglier than ever.

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The one and ONLY criteria for all North American/Western women is MONEY! And the more money the better!
The dream of every single North American female is to be able to sell herself to the highest male bidder on a dating market! And NO other qualities matter!

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“It’s also really important to understand that the western virus really is just that, a western phenomenon. I’ve been spending time now in Central/East Europe”

Roosh is writing his articles from eastern europe. This part of the world is westernizing.

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Mexico would like to Americanize as far as feminism goes. The problem is feminism only has power when women can kick men around and still get a big check from the government.

All or almost all social spending in Mexico comes from the gross, not net, income from Pemex the national petroleum company. There is not a cent more to be had.

Without the government check women are far less snotty and independent. My own niece told me years ago, “Uncle, we women don’t always like what men do. But, if we are going to have babies, we need to accept them as they are.”

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Very good article.I experienced such strange things many many times already some years ago by myself.
I met a lot of women.The dates were fun and exciting and the sex as well.
But somehow many of them disappeared after 2-3 dates without clear reason.I was wondering why.I was very confused.I asked questions to myself like :”What the hell did i do or say wrong?Am i a bad lover? Is my dick not huge enough?WTF?”
Yes indeed, many women nowadays have a short attention span and have become attention whores.
It might sound cruel and dirty but its true:Fuck a new woman as soon as possible.Otherwise you will only lose your precious time and money for nothing.

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Roosh the tone of the blog seems more and more depressing/ nihilistic.

Have you ever been clinically depressed? Does depression run in your family?

If you were to go back to a sunny place like Medellin or Costa Rica you’d probably feel better. I remember you gave excellent advice when you said many indigenous cultures don’t have anxiety or depression issues because they do 4 hours of physical labor/day. This makes good sense.

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“Roosh the tone of the blog seems more and more depressing/ nihilistic.

Have you ever been clinically depressed? Does depression run in your family?”

Seconded.

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Thirded.

I’m beginning to think Roosh is depressed.

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Too much semen loss is the likely cause.

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Any guy who has spent years humping dozens or even hundreds of women eventually feels a bit empty. Is this all there is? For me, I turned to meditation (advaita vedenta) and that cured my nihilism.

Now I can bang or not bang. Live in an LTR or live totally alone and none of it affects my inner peace one way or the other. I highly recommend some form of meditation for any that are so inclined. If you are not inclined to that, then do something else – even volunteering at a old folks home. Believe it or not, it can do wonders for you. Basically anthing that can temporarily take you out of your egoic mindstream (at least for a few hours here and there) can really go a long way toward bringing internal fulfillment.

Just my two cents.

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” Basically anthing that can temporarily take you out of your egoic mindstream (at least for a few hours here and there) can really go a long way toward bringing internal fulfillment”

I’m quite inclined to agree. It used to be that being in a decent family way with a good woman gave men that fulfillment, but those days are gone until America completely chokes to death on its own vomit and is reborn again.

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“maybe even broadcasting it on her social networking accounts for a reward of ten likes, and come to the firm conclusion that you are a sub-standard male who is not deserving of her vagina”

Laughed out loud when I read this. Social media is completely an ego reward system.

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3 dates wait for a bang is serious dedication. I once met this white chick at the mexican restaurant and got her number. We had 3 dates, but she just kept promising that ass, letting me see her tramp stamp and talking all kinds of shit but not putting out, at all. I just stopped talking to her altogether, cuz she was like a 3 and I already had a busty, indian milf who was all about me bustin a nut.

Only white chicks worth anything seem to be Latvian and EE as well as Russia.

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How can you even look at a Mexican 3 and an Indian milf, let alone date or bang them, once you’ve had hot EEs ?

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My Mexican BIL from Vera Cruz is a world class womanizer. He is approaching 70 years old and still gets prime honey on his stinger.

He has told me that the most beautiful woman in the world is the one you are in bed with right now. That attitude is exactly why he still gets prime honey on his stinger.

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“Only white chicks worth anything seem to be Latvian and EE as well as Russia”. This is the dumbest statement ever. As a Ukrainian I am completely puzzled and perplexed by it.

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WHY is it a dumbest statement since he did mention Eastern Europe in his message? Ain’t Ukraine in Eastern Europe any more?
Care to elaborate?

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IMO Because that is a typical incoherent statement from somebody who’s never set foot in EE

-Latvia is tiny, has nothing special to offer and you can hardly distinguish its people from Lithuanians for instance . Plus the fact that 50% of Riga are ethnic Russians

– Latvia and Russia are already in EE. Hence they must either be singled out specifically on their own or dropped of in case the gentleman is referring to EE as a whole.

– EE is vast. Souths slavs have little in common looks wise with east slavs. Most EE “fans” are very particular about the type of women they pursue. A friend of mine swears by Romania and Bulgaria only, a couple of others you couldn’t get them out of the Baltics no matter what, I am exclusively into Belarus/Ukraine/Russia etc.

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Nope. Been to EE numerous times. When I say EE, I really mean every east of Germany. Im so lazy that I just used EE to cover everything. not that central Europe is bad at all, but a bit expensive for the thrifty traveller. Also, it has far less westernization of mindset. At this point, I am just looking for non-huge women. And yes, Bulgaria was a gold mine for me. It has the beaches as well as mountains. Went to Veliko Tarnovo and found PP

As for the indian milf, ever single male on here would salivate over her. Met her at indian buffet and she was right at that point BEFORE being fat. Just perfect. Too bad she was bat shit crazy!

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If the only thing you have to say about Bulgaria is that “It has beaches as well as mountains” then you’ve certainly never been there.

But we’ve already established that you’ve never set foot in EE. It’s ok to admit it. We’re here to help and guide you.

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I think you are right-he’s never set foot in EE but think to be an expert when it comes to living there or dating EE women.

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sorry, “thinks” to be an expert;)

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I really dont want to repeat what has been said by english speaking eastern european men (especially ukrainian and russian) zillions times but ru/ua/baltic (russian speaking ones more thn natives) women are not worth any second of one’s attention.Just find any reasonable and intelligent alpha or natural from Ua/Ru (with a vaste experience of relationships both with ru/ua women and western women) and chat to them about “wonders”of ru/ua women.
Also-pedestalling ANY women is a massive beta trait. This is why roosh and roshites are considered to be betas/gammas by pua community. I know it’s hard not to pedestal.A hope dies last.American betas pedestal EE women, I have a thing for traditional boer south african chicks (I honestly think ,based on personal experience, that they are the last real women on earth worth my attention).But it’s all emotions, and we should follow the logic.

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At least EE are far better looking than Ameripig females. But I agree that EE are pedalized. Are Boer south african chicks white?

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They are of Dutch heritage hence white. I would also add “some” Australian and Kiwi women. Not the coastal or the globetrotting ones, but the sedentary ones living in remote farmsteads.

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Yeah,descendants of dutch

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I’m gonna ask you something-have YOU ever been to Russia or Ukraine? Your answer will explain a lot.

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I honestly doubt that you’ve ever seen anything in Eastern Europe and do not believe you a second when you claim to be Ukrainian. You ain’t NO Ukrainian. Stop fooling us and yourself.

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I am a Ukrainian.

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I agree to a point. I saw a few documentaries about American über betas being shipped over by the busload to choose their brides in the squalor of the Ukrainian hinterland, all of them drooling in a pathetic Pavlovian way.

However, for most veteran EE connoisseurs, from western Europe, it is not about pedestalising, men know better, it’s about preference.

For a start EE is not a novelty, I have personally been to
St Petersburg in my teens.

As for the reasons behind the preference, some like the physique or the characters, others still like the general décalé and quaint vibes of EE, or a combination of all 3.

Otherwise yes, on a closer look, they are as bat-shit crazy as the western ones. Still, at the margin, they do provide a certain unique gratification, for reason explained above, that do appeal to many.

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I’d take an Eastern European female who knows how to dress, to look stylish and to be a woman over an American creature of unknown gender who used to be a female at birth but then turned into an ignorant, bitchy, ugly looking and self-centered “something”.

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Women are women… but would you rather spend time around sexy women that are fun to be with or feminazi brainwashed fattitude child-women?

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Of course I prefer sexy and stylish women that are fun and active over North American/Westernized feminazis with a brainwashed attitude/visions of life and childish behavior.

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100% agree. “If you make a couple of game mistakes, she will over-analyze them” This sentence explain a lot of things.
I also noticed, in my experience, that sex is often not enough. Have sex with them 3 times and never try something nasty or different that could hit her imagination, you have most likely become her past already.

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“never try something nasty or different that could hit her imagination, you have most likely become her past already.”

I get the same impression, but limits are being pushed, so trying something nasty to hit her imagination could mean treating her like a Dubai shit slut.

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“If you make only a couple small mistakes on a first date and fail to get sex, she will over-analyze them, maybe even broadcasting it on her social networking accounts for a reward of ten likes, and come to the firm conclusion that you are a sub-standard male who is not deserving of her vagina”

Are you serious? I don’t score all the time, but I have never had this happen to me with my sexual failures, has anybody?

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The first Colombiana I had, I seduced with true romance. I met her at a language exchange, after a nice conversation and a few sexy moments on the dancefloor we exchanged numbers. I then invited her out on a dinner date, we kissed over a river. Then I invited her out again, to an romantic artesianal pizzeria. We laughed, salsa danced and even disagreed on things, I revealed my entrepreneurial aspirations to her, she taught me about her culture. I had dinner with her family. Then we actually discussed spending the night together, I let her know that I would get us a decent room – make it special. We got cocktails together at a nice hotel downtown and then caught a taxi to the more modest room I had booked us. We entered our room, I put on a playlist of songs she liked, I threw her on the bed and we made passionate love until the sunrise. I probably saw her 6 times on dates and socially before I closed the deal, it took a lot of time but the elongated crescendo of pleasure and passion felt like it was worth it. This grand seduction felt so right, but it only worked on that one Colombiana… Every other time this model failed me, completely.

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“This grand seduction felt so right, but it only worked on that one Colombiana… Every other time this model failed me, completely.”

Cherish that memory good sir, because the days of romancing like that are done.

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Latin women often buy into romance. Maybe it worked because you were being genuine. When you tried the same approach on others, maybe they perceived the formulaic aspect of it.

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I think it was probably because she was 21, I was probably her first foreigner and I think she was virtuous person. A rare bird, even here in Latin america.

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Wow….this article….it seems like more of a plea. I’ve read a lot of messed up things here and ROK but this….THIS…..I can practically feel your own heavy weighted realization of our vapid flushed and swirling societal folly. Kinda feel like you have been let down sir but I certainly can respect you more after reading this and for what it’s worth, I’m sorry you feel like this.

I find your article intriguing and it begs the question: is this the general consensus among the male populous? You would want to be more exclusive and behave properly towards a woman (women) if only she would behave impeccably as her ability would necessitate whilst giving you your due respect thereby causing you to raise the quality of your behavior immensely towards them out of gratitude/relief?

If the answer is largely in the affirmative then this and ROK is making a great deal more sense to me than when I first found it and lurked about for several months before deciding perhaps it’s time I contributed. I invite introspection and insight involving that theory but out of nothing but genuine concern for ya Roosh, I gotta ask, you alright man?

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Woman have nothing invested in the game, nothing invested in the process. They are trained mr. wonderful will swoop in and game them and romance them and sweep them off their feet, why? Because they have a vagina and are so inherently wonderful just for having one that is why.

When you have such a gross imbalance in gender roles, where men are expected to do all the investment, and woman hardly lift a finger, is it any surprise they are so indifferent to walking away.

When I was in high school, I was the jock, the man, I had 10 girls surrounding me. Often I didn’t even notice all the other girls who were looking at me. I often rejected girls who were neither fat, ugly nor cunty in any way, simply because of all the pussy that was coming at me, I didn’t even bother to take or gve out numbers, I knew more girlss were on the way. More than I could take.

What we are witnessing is just the opposite. Women have so many options it permits them to behave in a cuntish manner.

Part of this is demographics. In high school, a man will most liekly never be surrounded by hundreds of thin attractive women like this again, maybe in college, but bear in mind the biggest sluts don’t even go. They go become waitress and hairdressers etc.

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Most of what you say is true. However later in life a man will be perused by women on the basis of his financial and educational success. I am a man in my 40s and completed my bachelors degree just a couple years ago. I have a good income and a nice home. I have a decent care and own a small power boat. I have no debt and in good health. I am fairly handsome also. I have found that in the past few years since my new level of success I am now being sought by many different kinds of women. They are at my fingertips just about any time I want them. I know what they are trying to do. They are trying to sell me on giving them my last name. What they don’t know is I am not in the least interested in getting married. Some eventually give up or find a guy that will commit to them and I loose them but there are always new girls in their 20s and 30s that I meet and they become part of my “harem”. Men never age. We can go for as long as we keep that young attitude. Staying ahead of the social and financial game helps allot. women will pursue you simply on the assumption you are a keeper. Just make them think they have to prove themselves and you will get what you want. Sex.

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I was speaking from my perspective as a young man, and you are right that this all changes when people age. bY their 40s women have few options and become desperate and men can still date teenagers with relative ease provided they don’t look old or don’t get fat. In essence men in their 40s have lots of options too.

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Is this article referring to women in US or in general? Women are unpredictable whatever age but the younger ones aged 18-25 tend to be the deal breakers. It’s a fact that older men prefer younger women, and many older, wealthy, generous men these days use sugar dating sites like tempted.com and hook up with younger, classy women.

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Excellent article on the fleetingness of the female nature.

Dating options & gender ratios nowadays are the better guidelines on how a woman will likely behave. However that is only as long the party years go on. Afterwards she will find that the offers for a LTR dry up just as much as her vagina as she approaches her 35-year-old sexual peak.

But there is a caveat to this – if a man is high value enough – either through Game, looks, money or fame – then quite a few girls want to be with him. The problem is that he has options and is getting pussy that easy, that no way in hell will he be able or want to have a monogamous LTR. The deregulation of the female sexuality will give very little incentive even for the high value men to settle down with a woman. Women start the depreciation of pussy, but men finish it off. But at least men are only reacting to it – also one of our reactions is to close the relationship and marriage gate to women who have long left their prime. The dying off of the “good men” will go on.

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Truer words were never spoken.

This spring, if I can’t get an instant date, I’m gonna try to get her out later that night if possible, or the next day if it’s night game. Text game is probably easier that way too.

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are you offering anything besides sex?

what’s the obsession with dates? calling it a date doesn’t make it more fun. i reckon it would be more important what exactly you do together. if there’s nothing to do but do go on a date for going on a date’s sake, what’s the point?

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Jesus. You give up so easily don’t you? Real men challenge the world. They remake it in their own image. They do not accept substandard conditions as normal.

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I’m a settled matron, not on the market. My early adulthood was during the days when unmarried pregnant women left town. However, the dynamic between men and women has always interested me and I’ve observed it over the years. There’s not much I haven’t seen happen to people. I’ve become friends with a 38-year-old single man whom I met at a poetry reading. His stuff was Bukowskiesque and I complimented him on it. Some people you recognize instantly as friends; he and I can talk about anything, as if we’ve known each other for decades. There’s nothing wrong with his looks, nothing wrong with his personality–unless it’s a fault that he’s extremely original and blunt. He can count his sexual encounters on the fingers of one hand. I think this is a shame. And I find it very surprising. And no, he’s not happy with it. What should he do?

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I’m somewhat a coward when talking to girls. Not so that I have approach anxiety. I’ll go and make the first move, and then especially when I get a good reaction I’m like.. ok, I know what I have to do (game her until I have a number) but most of the time I’m just surprised they took the bad pickupline and then wish them a good day. To fantasize later what could have be. Now I’m single again I’ll keep this post in mind to make sure I’ll plough trough a conversation and get what I want.

The advice of closing the deal is very very important for young men. So many good opportunities are lost. And don’t kid yourself. A smile from a girl is a good chance she likes your looks.

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You sound very rapey, no offense. I mean it sounds like you might’ve forced yourself on a few women because you can’t contain yourself, which is horrible.

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